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Title: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2020, 09:52:27 PM
All the big ticket items the anti oil NDP and Greens promise will be paid for by the very industry they demonize--Canada's oil and gas sector.



https://business.financialpost.com/opinion/like-it-or-not-crude-oil-is-the-biggest-reason-for-canadas-prosperity?fbclid=IwAR0bnSMSaRrmRJsXea7xkzoV-D0j-O0FCtU68CYNN88870X1c95rKDVTzjE

Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada's prosperity

Patricia Mohr: Even at the bottom of the oil-price correction in 2016, crude remained the largest positive contributor to Canada's merchandise trade, generating a $33-billion surplus



The oil industry looms large in the Canadian economy and, in many ways, pays the rent in Canada. Yet many Canadians appear unaware of how critically important the oil industry is to the national economy, a fact often lost in the debate over the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion.



Canada is a trading nation. We owe our economic prosperity and relatively high per-capita income to trade — and crude oil dominates that trade. In 2014, before the oil-price downturn, crude oil alone generated a $70-billion trade surplus for Canada — excluding smaller surpluses in refined petroleum products and natural gas — far outstripping any other export category (the closest is metals and minerals) and helping to offset large, chronic deficits in autos and parts, industrial machinery, electronic goods and consumer products.



Even at the bottom of the oil-price correction in 2016, crude oil remained the largest positive contributor to Canada's merchandise trade, generating a $33-billion surplus. In 2017, net oil exports increased again to $46 billion and will likely climb to over $50 billion this year, alongside the recent recovery in West Texas Intermediate (WTI) oil prices to the $70 mark.



Oil industry tax and royalty revenues have also strengthened the overall fiscal position of governments across Canada, helping to fund social services. In 2016, the latest year for which data is available, Alberta payments to Ottawa were around $22 billion more than it received, amounting to over $5,100 per capita, helping to fund equalization payments to Quebec, the Maritime provinces and Manitoba. Alberta has consistently shared a portion of its resource wealth with the rest of Canada. Per capita, Alberta's net federal payments are five times bigger than any other province.



The contribution of the oil industry could have been even greater — much greater — had more export pipeline capability been available, especially to the Canadian West Coast, but also to the United States. While export shipments to Asia are possible the existing Trans Mountain pipeline through the Port of Vancouver, pipeline utilization is tight, limiting overseas volumes. The vast bulk of Canadian oil exports flow to refineries in the U.S. Midwest, the mountain states and the Gulf Coast.



A lack of alternative export outlets for Canadian crude often translates into wide price discounts off WTI oil (the North American reference price) whenever U.S. demand slows seasonally or when there is a significant U.S. refinery outage. Late last year, a service interruption on a key pipeline to the U.S. caused the heavy-oil price discount off WTI to widen to around US$30, much higher than the US$12 justified by the higher cost of processing heavy crude. Discounts on light and medium crudes widened as well.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2020, 09:54:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag90G0fR4ts&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2g5wYYKAoW0m4ZDt0ZJaHAKw2GCwkq6DiWd-AnFBYemoQe-9jdZ45Q-pM
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2020, 10:31:36 PM
Canadian politicians are determined to make this country less prosperous in the future. Our elected wastes of skin will almost certainly get their wish.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2020, 10:47:54 PM
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Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Anonymous on January 05, 2020, 02:02:24 AM
Herman, learn how to post images.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Anonymous on January 05, 2020, 11:35:41 AM
Quote from: "Herman"All the big ticket items the anti oil NDP and Greens promise will be paid for by the very industry they demonize--Canada's oil and gas sector.



https://business.financialpost.com/opinion/like-it-or-not-crude-oil-is-the-biggest-reason-for-canadas-prosperity?fbclid=IwAR0bnSMSaRrmRJsXea7xkzoV-D0j-O0FCtU68CYNN88870X1c95rKDVTzjE

Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada's prosperity

Patricia Mohr: Even at the bottom of the oil-price correction in 2016, crude remained the largest positive contributor to Canada's merchandise trade, generating a $33-billion surplus



The oil industry looms large in the Canadian economy and, in many ways, pays the rent in Canada. Yet many Canadians appear unaware of how critically important the oil industry is to the national economy, a fact often lost in the debate over the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion.



Canada is a trading nation. We owe our economic prosperity and relatively high per-capita income to trade — and crude oil dominates that trade. In 2014, before the oil-price downturn, crude oil alone generated a $70-billion trade surplus for Canada — excluding smaller surpluses in refined petroleum products and natural gas — far outstripping any other export category (the closest is metals and minerals) and helping to offset large, chronic deficits in autos and parts, industrial machinery, electronic goods and consumer products.



Even at the bottom of the oil-price correction in 2016, crude oil remained the largest positive contributor to Canada's merchandise trade, generating a $33-billion surplus. In 2017, net oil exports increased again to $46 billion and will likely climb to over $50 billion this year, alongside the recent recovery in West Texas Intermediate (WTI) oil prices to the $70 mark.



Oil industry tax and royalty revenues have also strengthened the overall fiscal position of governments across Canada, helping to fund social services. In 2016, the latest year for which data is available, Alberta payments to Ottawa were around $22 billion more than it received, amounting to over $5,100 per capita, helping to fund equalization payments to Quebec, the Maritime provinces and Manitoba. Alberta has consistently shared a portion of its resource wealth with the rest of Canada. Per capita, Alberta's net federal payments are five times bigger than any other province.



The contribution of the oil industry could have been even greater — much greater — had more export pipeline capability been available, especially to the Canadian West Coast, but also to the United States. While export shipments to Asia are possible the existing Trans Mountain pipeline through the Port of Vancouver, pipeline utilization is tight, limiting overseas volumes. The vast bulk of Canadian oil exports flow to refineries in the U.S. Midwest, the mountain states and the Gulf Coast.



A lack of alternative export outlets for Canadian crude often translates into wide price discounts off WTI oil (the North American reference price) whenever U.S. demand slows seasonally or when there is a significant U.S. refinery outage. Late last year, a service interruption on a key pipeline to the U.S. caused the heavy-oil price discount off WTI to widen to around US$30, much higher than the US$12 justified by the higher cost of processing heavy crude. Discounts on light and medium crudes widened as well.

Canadian oil and gas has made Canada a desirable destination for immigrants around the globe.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Anonymous on January 05, 2020, 10:38:53 PM
When Trudeau, the dippers and their foreign financiers put up roadblocks against Canadian(ONLY) energy development, Canada's innovative oil and gas sector uses technology to get around it.



https://business.financialpost.com/commodities/energy/oil-sands-crude-could-get-even-heavier-amid-pipeline-shortage?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR20b8ofUb44Nkh6Dwcgd-uJBNN1TVz6IaHrv8gw4MXMLVRXJTHdRoDI3WY#Echobox=1575309845

Struggling oilsands producers have a plan to cut costs and export more crude amid pipeline shortage



Canada's struggling oilsands industry has a plan to cut costs while exporting more of their crude: Make it even heavier.



Companies including Cenovus Energy Inc., Gibson Energy Inc., Imperial Oil Ltd. and MEG Energy Corp. are looking to remove condensate and other light oils from the oilsands bitumen they produce, so they can get more of it onto rail cars.



Doing so would dramatically reduce the cost of shipping crude by rail to the U.S. Gulf Coast, which otherwise can cost twice as much as shipping by pipeline. Removing the light oils, called diluent, would make rail shipments nearly as cost-effective as pipeline exports, said Dinara Millington, vice president of research at the Canadian Energy Research Institute.



Shipping bitumen to the Gulf Coast with little to no diluent can save a producer more than US$6 a barrel versus shipping diluted bitumen, according to IHS Markit.



Canadian producers have long considered building diluent recovery units, or DRUs, to remove condensate from their bitumen and shipping more of it by rail. Now, a few companies are pushing ahead with the projects as plans to expand pipelines such as the Trans Mountain line to the Vancouver area and Enbridge Inc.'s Line 3 face repeated delays.



Cenovus plans to submit an application this quarter to build a $800 million (US$602 million) to $1 billion DRU at its Bruderheim rail terminal, with plans to start construction within a year. The plant would process 180,000 barrels a day of diluted bitumen, stripping out 60,000 barrels a day that would be recycled back to oil-sands sites.



Gibson Energy is working with its partner USD Group LLC. to secure commercial support for a DRU at its Hardisty, Alberta, terminal and is "well advanced" on a commercial agreement with one customer for a portion of the first 100,000 barrels a day required for phase one, Steve Spaulding, chief executive officer, said in an Nov. 5 investor call.



"We are currently working to secure customer commitments for the project; and sanctioning will be dependent on those commitments," Brian Radiff, Gibson spokesman, said in an email. Construction will take about 18 months with the plant operational as early as the second quarter of 2021.



The pipeline shortage that emerged last year, sending local oil prices tumbling to the lowest in a decade, prompted companies to sign up for long-term rail contracts, said Kevin Birn, IHS Markit's director of North American crude oil markets. That "taught producers they need to invest in flexibility to ensure they can maximize value of their product," he said.



Still, shipping undiluted crude by rail is more logistically challenging, requiring special heating equipment and possibly designated tanks at the receiving terminal, Birn said. Rail cars must be insulated with heating coils.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Zetsu on January 06, 2020, 10:00:15 AM
I couldn't agree enough with what Herman has posted, I bet our currency would be worth nothing toilet paper if it wasn't for the oil industry, and this fking bag o shit trudeau is trying to destroy what Canada only has left to stand on an international scale.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2020, 10:11:04 AM
Quote from: "Zetsu"I couldn't agree enough with what Herman has posted, I bet our currency would be worth nothing toilet paper if it wasn't for the oil industry, and this fking bag o shit trudeau is trying to destroy what Canada only has left to stand on an international scale.

He wants accolades from the IPCC instead of doing his job and telling the story of the most innovative and environmentally responsible oil and gas sector in the world.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Zetsu on January 06, 2020, 10:38:24 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"I couldn't agree enough with what Herman has posted, I bet our currency would be worth nothing toilet paper if it wasn't for the oil industry, and this fking bag o shit trudeau is trying to destroy what Canada only has left to stand on an international scale.

He wants accolades from the IPCC instead of doing his job and telling the story of the most innovative and environmentally responsible oil and gas sector in the world.


The idiot should just resign asap, the only job that he'll ever be useful at is being a male prostitute, no joke.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2020, 10:42:32 AM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"I couldn't agree enough with what Herman has posted, I bet our currency would be worth nothing toilet paper if it wasn't for the oil industry, and this fking bag o shit trudeau is trying to destroy what Canada only has left to stand on an international scale.

He wants accolades from the IPCC instead of doing his job and telling the story of the most innovative and environmentally responsible oil and gas sector in the world.


The idiot should just resign asap, the only job that he'll ever be useful at is being a male prostitute, no joke.

I think he's still in Costa Rica on an $130,000 trip we paid for..



Does he ever do any work?
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2020, 05:24:58 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"I couldn't agree enough with what Herman has posted, I bet our currency would be worth nothing toilet paper if it wasn't for the oil industry, and this fking bag o shit trudeau is trying to destroy what Canada only has left to stand on an international scale.

What other country deliberately kneecaps it's number one export. What other national leader does that. It makes no sense.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Zetsu on January 06, 2020, 05:35:48 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"I couldn't agree enough with what Herman has posted, I bet our currency would be worth nothing toilet paper if it wasn't for the oil industry, and this fking bag o shit trudeau is trying to destroy what Canada only has left to stand on an international scale.

He wants accolades from the IPCC instead of doing his job and telling the story of the most innovative and environmentally responsible oil and gas sector in the world.


The idiot should just resign asap, the only job that he'll ever be useful at is being a male prostitute, no joke.

I think he's still in Costa Rica on an $130,000 trip we paid for..



Does he ever do any work?


NAFTA, the oil industry, war on drugs, taxes, refugees, middle class, etc, tbh that's all I could think of when it comes to Trudeau.  



It seems like only a very small minority benefited from his policies but harmed most of the good innocent folks.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2020, 05:44:50 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"I couldn't agree enough with what Herman has posted, I bet our currency would be worth nothing toilet paper if it wasn't for the oil industry, and this fking bag o shit trudeau is trying to destroy what Canada only has left to stand on an international scale.

He wants accolades from the IPCC instead of doing his job and telling the story of the most innovative and environmentally responsible oil and gas sector in the world.


The idiot should just resign asap, the only job that he'll ever be useful at is being a male prostitute, no joke.

I think he's still in Costa Rica on an $130,000 trip we paid for..



Does he ever do any work?


NAFTA, the oil industry, war on drugs, taxes, refugees, middle class, etc, tbh that's all I could think of when it comes to Trudeau.  



It seems like only a very small minority benefited from his policies but harmed most of the good innocent folks.

People at the very bottom are better off because of the increase to child benefits. But, higher taxes on high income earners did not pay for it as he said it would. Instead we have a nearly $27 billion deficit this year. So, it was essentially vote buying because it's unsustainable.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2020, 05:55:23 PM
Alberta's Aboriginal communities recognize the good the oil and gas sector does even if Trudeau Laurentian urban elitist government cannot.



Indigenous communities back proposed oilsands mine



Indigenous communities near a controversial oilsands development in Alberta's northeast are lending their voices in support of the project, arguing the company in charge will keep environmental impacts to a minimum.



The Teck Frontier oilsands mine is located between Fort Mcmurray and Fort Chipewyan and is currently awaiting approval from a joint provincial and federal panel. The mine hopes to produce 260,000 barrels per day by pipeline once at full production.



The company has agreements with all 14 Indigenous communities in the project area.



The project has received a lot of attention from advocates who argue the mine could do serious harm. In November, Indigenous and environmental groups held a conference calling for the mine to be scrapped.



Ron Quintal, the president of Fort Mckay Métis Nation, said his community signed on after years of consultation and shares a lot of the concerns regarding the environment but believes Teck will take all the necessary steps to lessen those impacts.



"I respect everyone's opinion, but I find in far too many circumstances Indigenous people are used as a lightning rod to polarize the issues like oilsands development," he said. "I don't agree with that. Indigenous communities should have the right to have their own voice and to be able to speak. Speaking on behalf of Fort Mckay Métis, we don't want anybody coming in and telling us our business."



Fort Mckay Métis Nation, located roughly 20 km north of the proposed mine, recently became self-declared and has about 112 members. The community relies heavily on the oil industry to provide work.



Quintal said the community has taken a lot of steps to become self-sufficient, including working with industry. He said he's never seen the level of consultation that Teck has provided.



"At the end of the day, if those (environmental) impacts are going to continuously mitigate, I think that's half the battle," he added.



Bill Loutitt, CEO of Mcmurray Métis, said with nearly 600 members, his community is the largest in the area. Like Quintal, Loutitt praised Teck for working with Indigenous communities in order to come to an agreement.



"They continue to develop in an environmentally friendly way," he said. "That's one thing that is in our agreement. There's a lot of committee work, and when there are issues, we're on the ground and we help them work through these to a solution. It's very tough to develop oilsands without some environmental damage. By working with them, we feel we're going to be able to help them reduce that amount of environmental impacts."



Loutitt said the mine will do a lot to boost the community's employment and mentioned they have promises from Teck that they will hire within the area.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Zetsu on January 06, 2020, 08:53:47 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Zetsu"I couldn't agree enough with what Herman has posted, I bet our currency would be worth nothing toilet paper if it wasn't for the oil industry, and this fking bag o shit trudeau is trying to destroy what Canada only has left to stand on an international scale.

What other country deliberately kneecaps it's number one export. What other national leader does that. It makes no sense.


My thoughts exactly, Trudeau reminds me of that stupid Dee Dee character from the cartoon Dexter's Laboratory I used to watch as a kid, except Trudeau is an idiot and his acts are intentional, imo he should just resign before bringing anymore disgrace to the family.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2020, 09:06:08 PM
Every time there is a Trudeau in office Western Canada suffers. Poppa Trudeau's motto was screw the West, I'll take the rest.



When the West's resources suffer at the hands of a Trudeau, all Canadians pay the economic price.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Anonymous on January 07, 2020, 12:15:16 AM
Jupiter Resources' Simon Bregazzi sees inverting fortunes for Canadian and U.S. gas producers

One to Watch: Canadian market's improved fortunes are a direct result of a group of gas producers, including Jupiter, pushing for changes


"The natural gas sector in Alberta was in crisis," said Simon Bregazzi, chief executive of Jupiter Resources Inc., describing how pipeline constraints and economics had caused AECO gas prices to bear little or no resemblance to wider North American benchmarks.



The AECO market's improved fortunes are a direct result of a group of gas producers, including Jupiter, pushing for changes. Through the spring and summer, Bregazzi and other natural gas CEOs negotiated with the Alberta government and pipeline giant TC Energy Corp. on ways to improve access to gas storage sites in the province.



There were initially deep divisions over TC Energy's changes to its service protocols that addressed who could access the pipeline system during maintenance periods. But all sides eventually reached an agreement that allowed all operators to move their gas into storage during critical maintenance outages. The Canada Energy Regulator approved the changes on Sept. 27, which led to a spike in AECO prices.



In addition to the protocol changes, TC Energy on Dec. 20 announced it had reached an agreement to reduce long-term tolls by 20 per cent on its pipeline network that moves Western Canadian gas to the Toronto and U.S. Midwest markets.



Based on the rate of gas being withdrawn from storage, the EIA is forecasting that gas inventories will be 1.9 tcf at the end March, or eight per cent higher than the five-year average.



As a result, the Henry Hub benchmark natural gas price is expected to tumble to an average of US$2.55 per mcf in 2020, which is shy of the US$2.69 average in 2019 and a far cry from the US$3.27 average in 2018.



By contrast, natural gas storage levels in Alberta are 23 per cent below the five-year average, according to analysts at Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co. who "expect them to remain at this level before they start to rebuild in the spring."



Natural gas production in Alberta has also declined by one billion cubic feet per day over the course of the past year, which executives and analysts said is leading to more confidence that demand for gas from coal-fired power plants in the province switching to gas will outpace supply.



"I believe all of this should point to an even more constructive Canadian natural gas price," Peyto Exploration and Development Corp. chief executive Darren Gee said in a letter to his company's investors in December, which predicted that AECO prices would average close to $1.95 mcf in 2020.



"Geez, who knew $2 gas would be something we'd be hoping to achieve," he said.



But for Gee, Bregazzi and other natural gas executives who have managed through seven-cent gas prices, the outlook is significantly rosier than it was a year ago, even if the broader North American benchmarks are in trouble.



"We confronted some of the issues that the U.S. market is confronting sooner," Bregazzi said. "In a purely local context, we've already gone through the process that faces the U.S. gas sector in 2020."

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A ray of hope for a change.





The improved access to storage and to major markets in Central Canada will expose domestic gas producers to North American benchmarks. The outcome is exactly what gas producers wanted, but the timing is unfortunate.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Anonymous on January 07, 2020, 09:01:26 AM
I remember when natural gas used to be a bigger part of resource revenue and jobs in this province than oil..



While other countries like Australia were building LNG plants and pipelines we played delay games.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Anonymous on January 08, 2020, 12:01:33 PM
Former federal NDP leader, Tom Mulcair wants Ottawa not to approve the twenty billion dollar Fronter mine ion NE Alberta on the grounds of meeting climate change targets. I guess he thinks if that oil is produced by other jurisdictions with lower environmental standards than Canada there will be less C02 in the atmosphere. :crazy:
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Thiel on January 08, 2020, 10:38:21 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"Alberta's Aboriginal communities recognize the good the oil and gas sector does even if Trudeau Laurentian urban elitist government cannot.



Indigenous communities back proposed oilsands mine



Indigenous communities near a controversial oilsands development in Alberta's northeast are lending their voices in support of the project, arguing the company in charge will keep environmental impacts to a minimum.



The Teck Frontier oilsands mine is located between Fort Mcmurray and Fort Chipewyan and is currently awaiting approval from a joint provincial and federal panel. The mine hopes to produce 260,000 barrels per day by pipeline once at full production.



The company has agreements with all 14 Indigenous communities in the project area.



The project has received a lot of attention from advocates who argue the mine could do serious harm. In November, Indigenous and environmental groups held a conference calling for the mine to be scrapped.



Ron Quintal, the president of Fort Mckay Métis Nation, said his community signed on after years of consultation and shares a lot of the concerns regarding the environment but believes Teck will take all the necessary steps to lessen those impacts.



"I respect everyone's opinion, but I find in far too many circumstances Indigenous people are used as a lightning rod to polarize the issues like oilsands development," he said. "I don't agree with that. Indigenous communities should have the right to have their own voice and to be able to speak. Speaking on behalf of Fort Mckay Métis, we don't want anybody coming in and telling us our business."



Fort Mckay Métis Nation, located roughly 20 km north of the proposed mine, recently became self-declared and has about 112 members. The community relies heavily on the oil industry to provide work.



Quintal said the community has taken a lot of steps to become self-sufficient, including working with industry. He said he's never seen the level of consultation that Teck has provided.



"At the end of the day, if those (environmental) impacts are going to continuously mitigate, I think that's half the battle," he added.



Bill Loutitt, CEO of Mcmurray Métis, said with nearly 600 members, his community is the largest in the area. Like Quintal, Loutitt praised Teck for working with Indigenous communities in order to come to an agreement.



"They continue to develop in an environmentally friendly way," he said. "That's one thing that is in our agreement. There's a lot of committee work, and when there are issues, we're on the ground and we help them work through these to a solution. It's very tough to develop oilsands without some environmental damage. By working with them, we feel we're going to be able to help them reduce that amount of environmental impacts."



Loutitt said the mine will do a lot to boost the community's employment and mentioned they have promises from Teck that they will hire within the area.

I have my fingers crossed science and common sense will defeat ideology and symbolism.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on February 16, 2020, 01:23:43 PM
Quote from: "Herman"All the big ticket items the anti oil NDP and Greens promise will be paid for by the very industry they demonize--Canada's oil and gas sector.



https://business.financialpost.com/opinion/like-it-or-not-crude-oil-is-the-biggest-reason-for-canadas-prosperity?fbclid=IwAR0bnSMSaRrmRJsXea7xkzoV-D0j-O0FCtU68CYNN88870X1c95rKDVTzjE

Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada's prosperity

Patricia Mohr: Even at the bottom of the oil-price correction in 2016, crude remained the largest positive contributor to Canada's merchandise trade, generating a $33-billion surplus



The oil industry looms large in the Canadian economy and, in many ways, pays the rent in Canada. Yet many Canadians appear unaware of how critically important the oil industry is to the national economy, a fact often lost in the debate over the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion.



Canada is a trading nation. We owe our economic prosperity and relatively high per-capita income to trade — and crude oil dominates that trade. In 2014, before the oil-price downturn, crude oil alone generated a $70-billion trade surplus for Canada — excluding smaller surpluses in refined petroleum products and natural gas — far outstripping any other export category (the closest is metals and minerals) and helping to offset large, chronic deficits in autos and parts, industrial machinery, electronic goods and consumer products.



Even at the bottom of the oil-price correction in 2016, crude oil remained the largest positive contributor to Canada's merchandise trade, generating a $33-billion surplus. In 2017, net oil exports increased again to $46 billion and will likely climb to over $50 billion this year, alongside the recent recovery in West Texas Intermediate (WTI) oil prices to the $70 mark.



Oil industry tax and royalty revenues have also strengthened the overall fiscal position of governments across Canada, helping to fund social services. In 2016, the latest year for which data is available, Alberta payments to Ottawa were around $22 billion more than it received, amounting to over $5,100 per capita, helping to fund equalization payments to Quebec, the Maritime provinces and Manitoba. Alberta has consistently shared a portion of its resource wealth with the rest of Canada. Per capita, Alberta's net federal payments are five times bigger than any other province.



The contribution of the oil industry could have been even greater — much greater — had more export pipeline capability been available, especially to the Canadian West Coast, but also to the United States. While export shipments to Asia are possible the existing Trans Mountain pipeline through the Port of Vancouver, pipeline utilization is tight, limiting overseas volumes. The vast bulk of Canadian oil exports flow to refineries in the U.S. Midwest, the mountain states and the Gulf Coast.



A lack of alternative export outlets for Canadian crude often translates into wide price discounts off WTI oil (the North American reference price) whenever U.S. demand slows seasonally or when there is a significant U.S. refinery outage. Late last year, a service interruption on a key pipeline to the U.S. caused the heavy-oil price discount off WTI to widen to around US$30, much higher than the US$12 justified by the higher cost of processing heavy crude. Discounts on light and medium crudes widened as well.


 :thumbup:
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Anonymous on February 22, 2020, 12:05:30 PM
Even as foreign artists, writers and well financed eco activists urge Ottawa to nix Teck Frontier, Aboriginals support it.



From Postmedia



Mikisew Cree First Nation backs Teck Frontier project



he Mikisew Cree First Nation has thrown its support behind the Teck Frontier project.



"We applaud Teck, Canada and Alberta for working with us to identify ground-breaking measures to safeguard Wood Buffalo National Park, wood bison and our community," said Chief Archie Waquan in a Friday news release.



"With the long term commitments from Teck, Alberta and Canada, we see a strong path for protecting Wood Buffalo National Park, the Ronald Lake Bison Herd and our culture and community if the project proceeds. That is how we got to today's decision to confirm our support,"



If the Teck Frontier mine is built at its planned location between Fort Chipewyan and Fort McMurray, it would produce up to 260,000 barrels of oil per day by 2037 and generate about 4.1 million tonnes of carbon dioxide annually.



Until Friday, support for the project from Mikisew Cree First Nation was up in the air, as the federal and provincial governments sparred over Alberta's current and projected emissions, and how the project might affect them. The federal cabinet's deadline to make a decision on the Teck project is Feb. 28.



The decision to get behind Teck was made using a "community-based decision-making framework aimed at ensuring a healthy future for our people and the Peace Athabasca Delta," the release said.



The First Nation evaluated Teck's environmental and social commitments and the mitigation and accommodation measures being brought to federal and provincial decision- makers against Mikisew's Nikechinahonan Framework.



That framework is aimed at ensuring the project is consistent with the health of Wood Buffalo National Park, the health of traditional resources, and the cultural, physical and social health of the Mikisew community.



It also comes after a rigorous review of environmental and cultural studies in a 10-year consultation process led by elders and staff, said Waquan.



Mikisew leadership urged both governments to uphold commitments that have been developed to preserve the environment and culture if the project is approved.



The federal government, through a cabinet decision, stands to make a decision on the project next week.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: caskur on February 22, 2020, 01:36:22 PM
Oil is used to make plastic.



Plastic is/can be a scourge.



And single use plastic is terrorizing the planet.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Anonymous on February 22, 2020, 02:33:12 PM
Quote from: "caskur"Oil is used to make plastic.



Plastic is/can be a scourge.



And single use plastic is terrorizing the planet.

Not from North America it isn't..



And what are single use plastic bags?



What working family doesn't find many uses for plastic grocery bags.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Gaon on February 22, 2020, 03:11:57 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "caskur"Oil is used to make plastic.



Plastic is/can be a scourge.



And single use plastic is terrorizing the planet.

Not from North America it isn't..



And what are single use plastic bags?



What working family doesn't find many uses for plastic grocery bags.

That is true. All the plastics in the oceans come from about ten rivers and they are all in Africa, Asia or South America.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: caskur on February 23, 2020, 02:06:15 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "caskur"Oil is used to make plastic.



Plastic is/can be a scourge.



And single use plastic is terrorizing the planet.

Not from North America it isn't..



And what are single use plastic bags?



What working family doesn't find many uses for plastic grocery bags.


We used to use the for bin liners. Now we have very thick ones that cost us 15 cents. People have learned now to carry their own cloth shopping bags.



But it isn't shopping bags only, it's ALL plastic containers.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: caskur on February 23, 2020, 02:08:15 AM
Quote from: "Gaon"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "caskur"Oil is used to make plastic.



Plastic is/can be a scourge.



And single use plastic is terrorizing the planet.

Not from North America it isn't..



And what are single use plastic bags?



What working family doesn't find many uses for plastic grocery bags.

That is true. All the plastics in the oceans come from about ten rivers and they are all in Africa, Asia or South America.


plus ships dumping their rubbish to... and they dump their oil when they do oil changes.



Mankind is treating our important ocean like a dump.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: kiebers on February 23, 2020, 10:33:58 AM
At least the oil is bio degradable.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2020, 02:53:43 PM
Quote from: "kiebers"At least the oil is bio degradable.

Oil is organic and settles on the ocean floor....plastic bags and bottles do not.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: kiebers on February 23, 2020, 04:26:28 PM
Oil consuming microbes were discovered during the BP disaster in the gulf. They got rid of a lot of the oil.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2020, 09:07:47 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "kiebers"At least the oil is bio degradable.

Oil is organic and settles on the ocean floor....plastic bags and bottles do not.

It's ridiculous comparing an oil spill to dumping garbage in the oceans.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on February 24, 2020, 06:55:09 PM
Quote from: "Gaon"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "caskur"Oil is used to make plastic.



Plastic is/can be a scourge.



And single use plastic is terrorizing the planet.

Not from North America it isn't..



And what are single use plastic bags?



What working family doesn't find many uses for plastic grocery bags.

That is true. All the plastics in the oceans come from about ten rivers and they are all in Africa, Asia or South America.


I believe the main culprit is Indonesia.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on February 24, 2020, 06:56:43 PM
Quote from: "caskur"Oil is used to make plastic.



Plastic is/can be a scourge.



And single use plastic is terrorizing the planet.

Quote from: "caskur"Oil is used to make plastic.



Plastic is/can be a scourge.



And single use plastic is terrorizing the planet.


Oil is used in countless ways such as the manufacturing of most everything we use that we can't live without: some drugs, fake fur, cell phones, and a host of others. Oil is vital. We cannot dismiss it.



"Petroleum is used widely in health care—primarily as a transport fuel and feedstock for pharmaceuticals, plastics, and medical supplies—and few substitutes for it are available. ... Modern medicine relies on petroleum, particularly to transport patients, staff, and supplies, and to manufacture supplies and pharmaceuticals."
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Anonymous on February 24, 2020, 07:09:41 PM
I disagree with caskur's premise that single use plastics are "terrorizing the planet."



Plastics from Canada do not end up in oceans..



Besides, in my house we use them many times, not just once and throw them away.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: caskur on February 24, 2020, 11:43:26 PM
Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"
Quote from: "caskur"Oil is used to make plastic.



Plastic is/can be a scourge.



And single use plastic is terrorizing the planet.

Quote from: "caskur"Oil is used to make plastic.



Plastic is/can be a scourge.



And single use plastic is terrorizing the planet.


Oil is used in countless ways such as the manufacturing of most everything we use that we can't live without: some drugs, fake fur, cell phones, and a host of others. Oil is vital. We cannot dismiss it.



"Petroleum is used widely in health care—primarily as a transport fuel and feedstock for pharmaceuticals, plastics, and medical supplies—and few substitutes for it are available. ... Modern medicine relies on petroleum, particularly to transport patients, staff, and supplies, and to manufacture supplies and pharmaceuticals."


I'm not disputing we need oil however we should return to using recyclable glass for milk and drinks. EVERYTHING has been put in plastic bow. It's replaced tins, glass bottles, glass jars to our detriment. If we don't curb the use of plastic, we're finished as a human race but not before we knock off the globes wildlife.



Plastic replaced wool and cotton and silk. Your washing ends up in our oceans.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Anonymous on February 24, 2020, 11:58:54 PM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"
Quote from: "caskur"Oil is used to make plastic.



Plastic is/can be a scourge.



And single use plastic is terrorizing the planet.

Quote from: "caskur"Oil is used to make plastic.



Plastic is/can be a scourge.



And single use plastic is terrorizing the planet.


Oil is used in countless ways such as the manufacturing of most everything we use that we can't live without: some drugs, fake fur, cell phones, and a host of others. Oil is vital. We cannot dismiss it.



"Petroleum is used widely in health care—primarily as a transport fuel and feedstock for pharmaceuticals, plastics, and medical supplies—and few substitutes for it are available. ... Modern medicine relies on petroleum, particularly to transport patients, staff, and supplies, and to manufacture supplies and pharmaceuticals."


I'm not disputing we need oil however we should return to using recyclable glass for milk and drinks. EVERYTHING has been put in plastic bow. It's replaced tins, glass bottles, glass jars to our detriment. If we don't curb the use of plastic, we're finished as a human race but not before we knock off the globes wildlife.



Plastic replaced wool and cotton and silk. Your washing ends up in our oceans.

We use recyclable plastic for drinks and cartons for milk.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Anonymous on February 25, 2020, 12:27:54 AM
caskur, don't you have a plastic and aluminum can return in Western Australia?



Many seniors supplement their incomes returning plastic and aluminum for recycling.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: caskur on February 25, 2020, 12:54:03 AM
Yes, we send our rubbish like recyclable plastic offshore to China and/or Indonesia who don't want the rubbish anymore.



We should be recycling our own rubbish.



This isn't acceptable under any circumstances... If you think we should make a problem for someone else to deal with, then you're not thinking right. You're not thinking globally.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2iWbjguH_k
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Anonymous on February 25, 2020, 01:02:27 AM
Quote from: "caskur"Yes, we send our rubbish like recyclable plastic offshore to China and/or Indonesia who don't want the rubbish anymore.



We should be recycling our own rubbish.



This isn't acceptable under any circumstances... If you think we should make a problem for someone else to deal with, then you're not thinking right. You're not thinking globally.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2iWbjguH_k

Plastic bottle and cans, jugs of detergent, and so on have a return fee on them ranging from ten to twenty five cents..



It's rare to those things on the ground here.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on March 23, 2020, 10:56:25 AM
Why is Russia and Saudi Arabia still fighting over oil?
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on March 27, 2020, 11:35:16 PM
Does anyone know what the situation of this is today? The market was just in the dumps today.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Anonymous on March 27, 2020, 11:38:32 PM
Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"Does anyone know what the situation of this is today? The market was just in the dumps today.

The markets were up twenty percent over straight gain days. Part of it was profit taking and the other part was Kentucky Rep Thomas Massie playing procedural games in the congress over the stimulus bill. The losses by the end of the day than at the beginning.
Title: Re: Like it or not, crude oil is the biggest reason for Canada’s prosperity
Post by: Herman on June 17, 2023, 08:37:28 PM
Canada's oil production is expected to increase by more than 120% by 2050. Justine and that faggot Guilbeault will try and stop that.



It's believed that Canada has enough oil to last more than 180 years if it continues at its current rate of consumption.