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Title: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 21, 2020, 09:51:39 PM
...when Trudy implemented Bill C-46.



>Husband and wife go out to eat lunch.  Return back to her sister's house, who they were visiting.



>They proceed to consume alcohol by the pool.  (Would like to add, the result would've been the same had they consumed marijuana by the pool, or any drug for that matter)



>Two hours later, police arrive at the house.  Demand breath sample.  She failed the test.



>Issued immediate 90 day licence suspension, 30 day vehicle impound, as well as thousands of dollars worth of fines and expenses related to incident.



I told you this abuse of justice would happen, when you give police unlimited power to arbitrarily abuse...  Just like North Korea!





https://globalnews.ca/news/5326941/nanaimo-woman-wins-court-challenge-breathalyzer/
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Odinson on January 21, 2020, 10:00:16 PM
What the fuck kind of law is that..
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 21, 2020, 10:02:01 PM
Quote from: "Mel"...when Trudy implemented Bill C-46.



>Husband and wife go out to eat lunch.  Return back to her sister's house, who they were visiting.



>They proceed to consume alcohol by the pool.  (Would like to add, the result would've been the same had they consumed marijuana by the pool, or any drug for that matter)



>Two hours later, police arrive at the house.  Demand breath sample.  She failed the test.



>Issued immediate 90 day licence suspension, 30 day vehicle impound, as well as thousands of dollars worth of fines and expenses related to incident.



I told you this abuse of justice would happen, when you give police unlimited power to arbitrarily abuse...  Just like North Korea!





https://globalnews.ca/news/5326941/nanaimo-woman-wins-court-challenge-breathalyzer/

An old boy in Ontario got stopped and forced to do a breathalyzer while returning empties.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Odinson on January 21, 2020, 10:14:00 PM
Our cops set-up checkpoints where they test all drivers..



But I havent been individually targeted.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 21, 2020, 10:17:50 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"Our cops set-up checkpoints where they test all drivers..



But I havent been individually targeted.

I have. They let me through a couple of times when I probably would have blown over .08.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 21, 2020, 10:18:58 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"What the fuck kind of law is that..

A new law implemented recently that gives police virtually unlimited powers to demand alcohol/drug tests randomly to anyone operating any motor vehicle, without having to form reasonable suspicion that you're impaired, and that includes testing up to two hours after you've parked your car...  They can come into your home, into your business, into your place of employment, anywhere.  



No warrant required.



I warned this forum about this, but sadly at that time some members were all for it.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Odinson on January 21, 2020, 10:26:32 PM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Odinson"What the fuck kind of law is that..

A new law implemented recently that gives police virtually unlimited powers to demand alcohol/drug tests randomly to anyone operating any motor vehicle, without having to form reasonable suspicion that you're impaired, and that includes testing up to two hours after you've parked your car...  They can come into your home, into your business, into your place of employment, anywhere.  



No warrant required.



I warned this forum about this, but sadly at that time some members were all for it.


The last part is what really amazes me..



You have to wait for 2 hours before you can start drinking at your place... What the hell..
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 21, 2020, 10:27:28 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"Our cops set-up checkpoints where they test all drivers..



But I havent been individually targeted.

They do that in this country also.  They are technically not permitted under Canadian law, since we are guaranteed the right to free and unobstructed travel, but the Supreme Court did allow these check stops for "the greater good."



The newer recent changes completely eroded our civil liberties big time, the most important change being that the police no longer need to form reasonable suspicion to fuck your shit up, as seen in article linked in my OP...
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 21, 2020, 10:30:10 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"
The last part is what really amazes me..



You have to wait for 2 hours before you can start drinking at your place... What the hell..

The police wanted this ability so they could effectively go after people that cause serious accidents, and then leave the scene of the crime.  That was the intent for that law.



Of course it was just a matter of time before they started to randomly enter peoples homes and demand samples, simply because you were out driving.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 21, 2020, 11:31:09 PM
I have been sober for over fifteen years. But, when I drank, other than random spot checks, they had to have reasonable suspicion to pull you over.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 21, 2020, 11:40:59 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"I have been sober for over fifteen years. But, when I drank, other than random spot checks, they had to have reasonable suspicion to pull you over.

That changed last year.  No more reasonable suspicion required.



That's what's so disturbing...  They can enter your home, without reasonable suspicion, demand a breath test (or drug test), just as long as you were driving within the last two hours.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2020, 12:08:21 AM
Imagine this scenario:  You and your wife are divorcing.  You get home after a hard day at work and bust out the Scotch, having a few drinks.  An hour later, because she hates you, she decides to call the cops saying you drove home drunk.



They will now come into your home and fuck up your shit, royally.



The onus is on you to prove that you didn't drive home drunk, which is impossible to prove.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2020, 12:12:08 AM
Quote from: "Mel"Imagine this scenario:  You and your wife are divorcing.  You get home after a hard day at work and bust out the Scotch, having a few drinks.  An hour later, because she hates you, she decides to call the cops saying you drove home drunk.



They will now come into your home and fuck up your shit, royally.



The onus is on you to prove that you didn't drive home drunk, which is impossible to prove.

This is the kind of big brother shit my family fled the USSR.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Odinson on January 22, 2020, 12:12:24 AM
Quote from: "Mel"Imagine this scenario:  You and your wife are divorcing.  You get home after a hard day at work and bust out the Scotch, having a few drinks.  An hour later, because she hates you, she decides to call the cops saying you drove home drunk.



They will now come into your home and fuck up your shit, royally.



The onus is on you to prove that you didn't drive home drunk, which is impossible to prove.


Yes..



And she can blame you for rape too...



 :laugh:
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2020, 12:24:08 AM
Quote from: "Mel"Imagine this scenario:  You and your wife are divorcing.  You get home after a hard day at work and bust out the Scotch, having a few drinks.  An hour later, because she hates you, she decides to call the cops saying you drove home drunk.



They will now come into your home and fuck up your shit, royally.



The onus is on you to prove that you didn't drive home drunk, which is impossible to prove.

That is not good at all.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2020, 12:50:01 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
That is not good at all.

It's not.  And in the article I linked in my OP, you learn that the couple doesn't even know who called them in...  The police are under no obligation to say.



That said, since there is no requirement for reasonable suspicion now, the police don't even need a complaint.  They can enter your home randomly and test you, simply because they 'feel like it.'



When I posted my concerns about this here one year ago, of course Bricktop got uppity with me, claiming these laws are great laws.



For cops that like to abuse power, of course these are great laws.



I understand the importance of keeping drunks off the road.  I also understand the importance of not having the Gestapo randomly entering my house arbitrarily, for no other reason than me taking an uneventful drive down to the corner store...
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2020, 12:53:17 AM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
That is not good at all.

It's not.  And in the article I linked in my OP, you learn that the couple doesn't even know who called them in...  The police are under no obligation to say.



That said, since there is no requirement for reasonable suspicion now, the police don't even need a complaint.  They can enter your home randomly and test you, simply because they 'feel like it.'



When I posted my concerns about this here one year ago, of course Bricktop got uppity with me, claiming these laws are great laws.



For cops that like to abuse power, of course these are great laws.



I understand the importance of keeping drunks off the road.  I also understand the importance of not having the Gestapo randomly entering my house arbitrarily, for no other reason than me taking an uneventful drive down to the corner store...

Trudeau is turning this country into a police state.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2020, 01:45:47 AM
Quote from: "Herman"Trudeau is turning this country into a police state.

Seems that way!



Reminds me of the High River, Alberta evacuation...  Once the town was evacuated, the cops did 'safety checks' to make sure nobody remained behind.  Of course, what they also did was kick in every door causing damage, and then seized all the rifles they could find as they rummaged through every single closet.



It was a PR nightmare for the RCMP after that, as they had no business snooping through homes in the first place!



What Trudy here has created, with Bill C-46, goes against everything we used to stand for:



"The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter -- all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement!"
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2020, 01:47:52 AM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Herman"Trudeau is turning this country into a police state.

Seems that way!



Reminds me of the High River, Alberta evacuation...  Once the town was evacuated, the cops did 'safety checks' to make sure nobody remained behind.  Of course, what they also did was kick in every door causing damage, and then seized all the rifles they could find as they rummaged through every single closet.



It was a PR nightmare for the RCMP after that, as they had no business snooping through homes in the first place!



What Trudy here has created, with Bill C-46, goes against everything we used to stand for:



"The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter -- all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement!"

I remember that..



There were protests because of it.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2020, 02:04:13 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
I remember that..



There were protests because of it.

Yup.  Went from "wellness checks" to snooping through peoples kitchen drawers...



Just in case somebody forgot Grandma who lives in the kitchen drawer I suppose.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: caskur on January 22, 2020, 02:05:57 AM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Odinson"Our cops set-up checkpoints where they test all drivers..



But I havent been individually targeted.

I have. They let me through a couple of times when I probably would have blown over .08.


The limit in Australia is .05,



You would have been done here for .08
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: caskur on January 22, 2020, 02:09:14 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Mel"Imagine this scenario:  You and your wife are divorcing.  You get home after a hard day at work and bust out the Scotch, having a few drinks.  An hour later, because she hates you, she decides to call the cops saying you drove home drunk.



They will now come into your home and fuck up your shit, royally.



The onus is on you to prove that you didn't drive home drunk, which is impossible to prove.

That is not good at all.


Men can do worse to women if they want sole custody of the kids... They can ring the cops on their wives so don't play the sexist card here mate.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2020, 02:10:37 AM
Federally the limit in Canada is 0.8, but most (if not all?) Provinces will begin to fuck your shit up at .05 also...
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2020, 02:11:39 AM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Odinson"Our cops set-up checkpoints where they test all drivers..



But I havent been individually targeted.

I have. They let me through a couple of times when I probably would have blown over .08.


The limit in Australia is .05,



You would have been done here for .08

Ideally, I'd like zero alcohol while driving, but your legal alcohol limit is better than ours.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: caskur on January 22, 2020, 02:15:34 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Odinson"Our cops set-up checkpoints where they test all drivers..



But I havent been individually targeted.

I have. They let me through a couple of times when I probably would have blown over .08.


The limit in Australia is .05,



You would have been done here for .08

Ideally, I'd like zero alcohol while driving, but your legal alcohol limit is better than ours.


0 would be the right number in my books to.



 :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2020, 02:20:46 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Ideally, I'd like zero alcohol while driving, but your legal alcohol limit is better than ours.

.05 is where Provincial Motor Vehicle Acts start fucking up your shit, so it's the same it that regard.  Federally it's .08, which is Criminal Code time...



Zero alcohol while driving is unrealistic, even for people that don't drink.  Gargle with mouthwash recently?  Enjoy getting fucked when your BAC reads .001 after you're forced to randomly blow for no reason...



Thresholds exist for a reason, and if the threshold was an absolute zero reading, you would not like that...  Banaca Spray?  Kiss your car and licence goodbye.  Eat a rum filled chocolate?  You just lost your job, your house, your car, your life...



Careful what you ask for...
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2020, 02:25:02 AM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Ideally, I'd like zero alcohol while driving, but your legal alcohol limit is better than ours.

.05 is where Provincial Motor Vehicle Acts start fucking up your shit, so it's the same it that regard.  Federally it's .08, which is Criminal Code time...



Zero alcohol while driving is unrealistic, even for people that don't drink.  Gargle with mouthwash recently?  Enjoy getting fucked when your BAC reads .001 after you're forced to randomly blow for no reason...



Thresholds exist for a reason, and if the threshold was an absolute zero reading, you would not like that...  Banaca Spray?  Kiss your car and licence goodbye.  Eat a rum filled chocolate?  You just lost your job, your house, your car, your life...



Careful what you ask for...

Than don't eat rum filled chocolates and drive.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2020, 02:26:39 AM
A touch of wine sauce in your dinner noodles?  Maybe you have a cold and ingested a tablespoon of cold medication?  Maybe a glass of wine with dinner?



Your life will be instantly destroyed.  THINK logically first, before attempting to create the change that you so much desire...
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2020, 02:27:34 AM
Quote from: "Mel"A touch of wine sauce in your dinner noodles?  Maybe you have a cold and ingested a tablespoon of cold medication?  Maybe a glass of wine with dinner?



Your life will be instantly destroyed.  THINK logically first, before attempting to create the change that you so much desire...

My concern is public safety not an inconvenience.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2020, 02:28:19 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Than don't eat rum filled chocolates and drive.

Who are you to dictate that eating a rum filled chocolate should fuck up someones life?
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2020, 02:30:32 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
My concern is public safety not an inconvenience.

Yeah?  Then maybe Canada should stop handing out drivers licenses to Asians that can't fucking drive.  For public safety and all...
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2020, 02:43:31 AM
I mean, it's nothing personal Fash, but you know where I used to live...  I have seen things, many things...



The clip below is entirely accurate.









https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlH9RGLJqxE
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2020, 09:06:57 AM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
My concern is public safety not an inconvenience.

Yeah?  Then maybe Canada should stop handing out drivers licenses to Asians that can't fucking drive.  For public safety and all...

If they are consuming alcohol when they drive, yes.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Blazor on January 22, 2020, 11:11:39 AM
Oh man, this is a fucked up law. Fuck that shit with them coming into my home! Good luck getting in! And if they do, good luck getting out!



Bunch of damn 1984 bullshit if ya ask me!
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Frood on January 22, 2020, 11:12:31 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Mel"A touch of wine sauce in your dinner noodles?  Maybe you have a cold and ingested a tablespoon of cold medication?  Maybe a glass of wine with dinner?



Your life will be instantly destroyed.  THINK logically first, before attempting to create the change that you so much desire...

My concern is public safety not an inconvenience.


Benjamin Franklin had a sage little observation about your way of thinking...



...something about those who trade liberty for a bit of safety deserve neither...



I realize it's harder for someone not born into Western culture to assimilate our values though...
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2020, 05:50:02 AM
Quote from: "Blazor"Oh man, this is a fucked up law. Fuck that shit with them coming into my home! Good luck getting in! And if they do, good luck getting out!



Bunch of damn 1984 bullshit if ya ask me!

That's exactly the problem I envisioned with this law revision, and it just so happened to materialize not long after implementation, surprise surprise...



Cops can get a Phone Warrant issued in a few minutes, so that solves nothing either...
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2020, 05:54:12 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"I realize it's harder for someone not born into Western culture to assimilate our values though...

They won't ever assimilate.  They come from a foreign culture.



It's no different than a USSR citizen immigrating, and then reminiscing of the good that the Iron Curtain brought to them, and to mankind...
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2020, 08:58:47 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Mel"A touch of wine sauce in your dinner noodles?  Maybe you have a cold and ingested a tablespoon of cold medication?  Maybe a glass of wine with dinner?



Your life will be instantly destroyed.  THINK logically first, before attempting to create the change that you so much desire...

My concern is public safety not an inconvenience.


Benjamin Franklin had a sage little observation about your way of thinking...



...something about those who trade liberty for a bit of safety deserve neither...



I realize it's harder for someone not born into Western culture to assimilate our values though...

Christianity used to be part of Western culture.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Blazor on January 23, 2020, 09:51:37 AM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Blazor"Oh man, this is a fucked up law. Fuck that shit with them coming into my home! Good luck getting in! And if they do, good luck getting out!



Bunch of damn 1984 bullshit if ya ask me!

That's exactly the problem I envisioned with this law revision, and it just so happened to materialize not long after implementation, surprise surprise...



Cops can get a Phone Warrant issued in a few minutes, so that solves nothing either...


We are fucked here in the states phone wise. ALL digital transactions, phone, text, email, search engine history, etc, are stored at a massive database that was built within the past few years. It was stored before, but they had to build something big enough to hold EVERYTHING.



This is another reason they wanted to get away from all old tech, like analog tv, land line phone, analog cell phone, etc., because this way it can all be tracked and captured. Plus other nefarious reasons.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2020, 11:03:11 AM
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Blazor"Oh man, this is a fucked up law. Fuck that shit with them coming into my home! Good luck getting in! And if they do, good luck getting out!



Bunch of damn 1984 bullshit if ya ask me!

That's exactly the problem I envisioned with this law revision, and it just so happened to materialize not long after implementation, surprise surprise...



Cops can get a Phone Warrant issued in a few minutes, so that solves nothing either...


We are fucked here in the states phone wise. ALL digital transactions, phone, text, email, search engine history, etc, are stored at a massive database that was built within the past few years. It was stored before, but they had to build something big enough to hold EVERYTHING.



This is another reason they wanted to get away from all old tech, like analog tv, land line phone, analog cell phone, etc., because this way it can all be tracked and captured. Plus other nefarious reasons.

There was talk that the Bank of Canada would create a digital currency for this country.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Blazor on January 23, 2020, 11:09:40 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Blazor"Oh man, this is a fucked up law. Fuck that shit with them coming into my home! Good luck getting in! And if they do, good luck getting out!



Bunch of damn 1984 bullshit if ya ask me!

That's exactly the problem I envisioned with this law revision, and it just so happened to materialize not long after implementation, surprise surprise...



Cops can get a Phone Warrant issued in a few minutes, so that solves nothing either...


We are fucked here in the states phone wise. ALL digital transactions, phone, text, email, search engine history, etc, are stored at a massive database that was built within the past few years. It was stored before, but they had to build something big enough to hold EVERYTHING.



This is another reason they wanted to get away from all old tech, like analog tv, land line phone, analog cell phone, etc., because this way it can all be tracked and captured. Plus other nefarious reasons.

There was talk that the Bank of Canada would create a digital currency for this country.


More tracking.



I dont like being tracked. I still pay with cash. I dont want anyone knowing what I buy, and then using that info against me in some kind of way.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Frood on January 23, 2020, 02:45:36 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Mel"A touch of wine sauce in your dinner noodles?  Maybe you have a cold and ingested a tablespoon of cold medication?  Maybe a glass of wine with dinner?



Your life will be instantly destroyed.  THINK logically first, before attempting to create the change that you so much desire...

My concern is public safety not an inconvenience.


Benjamin Franklin had a sage little observation about your way of thinking...



...something about those who trade liberty for a bit of safety deserve neither...



I realize it's harder for someone not born into Western culture to assimilate our values though...

Christianity used to be part of Western culture.


Christianity used to not agree with an end justifies the means tyranny...but it's everywhere now... gone'rs...
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2020, 04:26:28 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Mel"A touch of wine sauce in your dinner noodles?  Maybe you have a cold and ingested a tablespoon of cold medication?  Maybe a glass of wine with dinner?



Your life will be instantly destroyed.  THINK logically first, before attempting to create the change that you so much desire...

My concern is public safety not an inconvenience.


Benjamin Franklin had a sage little observation about your way of thinking...



...something about those who trade liberty for a bit of safety deserve neither...



I realize it's harder for someone not born into Western culture to assimilate our values though...

Christianity used to be part of Western culture.


Christianity used to not agree with an end justifies the means tyranny...but it's everywhere now... gone'rs...

My reasons for wanting alcohol banned are not based on scripture..



I don't want to impose my faith on secular society..



My reasons are based on health and safety.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Frood on January 23, 2020, 05:13:51 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Mel"A touch of wine sauce in your dinner noodles?  Maybe you have a cold and ingested a tablespoon of cold medication?  Maybe a glass of wine with dinner?



Your life will be instantly destroyed.  THINK logically first, before attempting to create the change that you so much desire...

My concern is public safety not an inconvenience.


Benjamin Franklin had a sage little observation about your way of thinking...



...something about those who trade liberty for a bit of safety deserve neither...



I realize it's harder for someone not born into Western culture to assimilate our values though...

Christianity used to be part of Western culture.


Christianity used to not agree with an end justifies the means tyranny...but it's everywhere now... gone'rs...

My reasons for wanting alcohol banned are not based on scripture..



I don't want to impose my faith on secular society..



My reasons are based on health and safety.


End justify the means which is at odds with authentic christianity...
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2020, 06:27:36 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Mel"A touch of wine sauce in your dinner noodles?  Maybe you have a cold and ingested a tablespoon of cold medication?  Maybe a glass of wine with dinner?



Your life will be instantly destroyed.  THINK logically first, before attempting to create the change that you so much desire...

My concern is public safety not an inconvenience.


Benjamin Franklin had a sage little observation about your way of thinking...



...something about those who trade liberty for a bit of safety deserve neither...



I realize it's harder for someone not born into Western culture to assimilate our values though...

Christianity used to be part of Western culture.


Christianity used to not agree with an end justifies the means tyranny...but it's everywhere now... gone'rs...

My reasons for wanting alcohol banned are not based on scripture..



I don't want to impose my faith on secular society..



My reasons are based on health and safety.


End justify the means which is at odds with authentic christianity...

What does Christianity have to do with the laws of a secular society?
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Frood on January 23, 2020, 06:40:47 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Mel"A touch of wine sauce in your dinner noodles?  Maybe you have a cold and ingested a tablespoon of cold medication?  Maybe a glass of wine with dinner?



Your life will be instantly destroyed.  THINK logically first, before attempting to create the change that you so much desire...

My concern is public safety not an inconvenience.


Benjamin Franklin had a sage little observation about your way of thinking...



...something about those who trade liberty for a bit of safety deserve neither...



I realize it's harder for someone not born into Western culture to assimilate our values though...

Christianity used to be part of Western culture.


Christianity used to not agree with an end justifies the means tyranny...but it's everywhere now... gone'rs...

My reasons for wanting alcohol banned are not based on scripture..



I don't want to impose my faith on secular society..



My reasons are based on health and safety.


End justify the means which is at odds with authentic christianity...

What does Christianity have to do with the laws of a secular society?


The West is based on Judeo Christian values. Eastern EJTM initiatives undermine the basic tenets of innocent before guilty, due process, and a whole slew of unalienable civil liberties.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2020, 06:46:31 PM
We had a big argument on SG about whether religion should have a role in public life. I lived in theocracies and I don't want one here. I said to that dimwit Scouse who wants kids with gay parents seized and raised in state foster care, what I like about Fash is that she doesn't seek to impose her bible on us.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Frood on January 23, 2020, 10:21:14 PM
Quote from: "Herman"We had a big argument on SG about whether religion should have a role in public life. I lived in theocracies and I don't want one here. I said to that dimwit Scouse who wants kids with gay parents seized and raised in state foster care, what I like about Fash is that she doesn't seek to impose her bible on us.


Yet she imposes unethical stop and search ideology on the otherwise innocent to find a tiny fraction of those drinking and driving who aren't outward and noticeably impaired.



Shen quoted a Chinese leader awhile ago... "Doesn't matter if the cat is black or white. Just as long as it catches mice." Paraphrased obviously.



Anything goes for the result...apparently...



...I think it's disgusting. Stay in the East if you disagree. I say that with the utmost respect for Fash...but.... when in Rome....
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2020, 10:32:21 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Herman"We had a big argument on SG about whether religion should have a role in public life. I lived in theocracies and I don't want one here. I said to that dimwit Scouse who wants kids with gay parents seized and raised in state foster care, what I like about Fash is that she doesn't seek to impose her bible on us.


Yet she imposes unethical stop and search ideology on the otherwise innocent to find a tiny fraction of those drinking and driving who aren't outward and noticeably impaired.



Shen quoted a Chinese leader awhile ago... "Doesn't matter if the cat is black or white. Just as long as it catches mice." Paraphrased obviously.



Anything goes for the result...apparently...



...I think it's disgusting. Stay in the East if you disagree. I say that with the utmost respect for Fash...but.... when in Rome....

We're a pragmatic people, China tried foreign dogmatic socialism and it was a disaster.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2020, 10:54:13 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Herman"We had a big argument on SG about whether religion should have a role in public life. I lived in theocracies and I don't want one here. I said to that dimwit Scouse who wants kids with gay parents seized and raised in state foster care, what I like about Fash is that she doesn't seek to impose her bible on us.


Yet she imposes unethical stop and search ideology on the otherwise innocent to find a tiny fraction of those drinking and driving who aren't outward and noticeably impaired.



Shen quoted a Chinese leader awhile ago... "Doesn't matter if the cat is black or white. Just as long as it catches mice." Paraphrased obviously.



Anything goes for the result...apparently...



...I think it's disgusting. Stay in the East if you disagree. I say that with the utmost respect for Fash...but.... when in Rome....

I thought disagreeing was very Western.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Frood on January 23, 2020, 11:51:16 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Herman"We had a big argument on SG about whether religion should have a role in public life. I lived in theocracies and I don't want one here. I said to that dimwit Scouse who wants kids with gay parents seized and raised in state foster care, what I like about Fash is that she doesn't seek to impose her bible on us.


Yet she imposes unethical stop and search ideology on the otherwise innocent to find a tiny fraction of those drinking and driving who aren't outward and noticeably impaired.



Shen quoted a Chinese leader awhile ago... "Doesn't matter if the cat is black or white. Just as long as it catches mice." Paraphrased obviously.



Anything goes for the result...apparently...



...I think it's disgusting. Stay in the East if you disagree. I say that with the utmost respect for Fash...but.... when in Rome....

I thought disagreeing was very Western.


Not on the fundamentals... I wouldn't move to China and pitch Libertarian values. I simply refuse to go there.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 24, 2020, 12:05:25 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Herman"We had a big argument on SG about whether religion should have a role in public life. I lived in theocracies and I don't want one here. I said to that dimwit Scouse who wants kids with gay parents seized and raised in state foster care, what I like about Fash is that she doesn't seek to impose her bible on us.


Yet she imposes unethical stop and search ideology on the otherwise innocent to find a tiny fraction of those drinking and driving who aren't outward and noticeably impaired.



Shen quoted a Chinese leader awhile ago... "Doesn't matter if the cat is black or white. Just as long as it catches mice." Paraphrased obviously.



Anything goes for the result...apparently...



...I think it's disgusting. Stay in the East if you disagree. I say that with the utmost respect for Fash...but.... when in Rome....

I thought disagreeing was very Western.


Not on the fundamentals... I wouldn't move to China and pitch Libertarian values. I simply refuse to go there.

We have libertarians in Taiwan though..



Seoul is a Korean libertarian.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Berry Sweet on January 24, 2020, 12:05:40 AM
I'm tired of hearing about religions and politics.  I wish people could just be kind to eachother...but nooo its too hard to do...
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 24, 2020, 12:07:11 AM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"I'm tired of hearing about religions and politics.  I wish people could just be kind to eachother...but nooo its too hard to do...

Some people try.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Frood on January 24, 2020, 01:14:17 AM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"I'm tired of hearing about religions and politics.  I wish people could just be kind to eachother...but nooo its too hard to do...




I have a problem with people with religion or not, pushing for the violation of of our very core. Don't like it? They're welcome to go somewhere that shits on civil rights as their mission for a little bit more safety...



That's not political.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 24, 2020, 01:18:49 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"I'm tired of hearing about religions and politics.  I wish people could just be kind to eachother...but nooo its too hard to do...




I have a problem with people with religion or not, pushing for the violation of of our very core. Don't like it? They're welcome to go somewhere that shits on civil rights as their mission for a little bit more safety...



That's not political.

Alcohol consumption is indefensible.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Frood on January 24, 2020, 01:33:40 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"I'm tired of hearing about religions and politics.  I wish people could just be kind to eachother...but nooo its too hard to do...




I have a problem with people with religion or not, pushing for the violation of of our very core. Don't like it? They're welcome to go somewhere that shits on civil rights as their mission for a little bit more safety...



That's not political.

Alcohol consumption is indefensible.


Driving impaired is indefensible. Alcohol consumption is just alcohol consumption. Violating people's civil rights to find impaired drivers is indefensible...
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 24, 2020, 01:39:45 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"I'm tired of hearing about religions and politics.  I wish people could just be kind to eachother...but nooo its too hard to do...




I have a problem with people with religion or not, pushing for the violation of of our very core. Don't like it? They're welcome to go somewhere that shits on civil rights as their mission for a little bit more safety...



That's not political.

Alcohol consumption is indefensible.


Driving impaired is indefensible. Alcohol consumption is just alcohol consumption. Violating people's civil rights to find impaired drivers is indefensible...

It's poison that impairs judgement, and causes harm to the person consuming it and the people around them.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 24, 2020, 02:21:24 AM
Here we go. DD has Fash on a Woman's Christian Temperance Union rant.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Frood on January 24, 2020, 02:34:15 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"Here we go. DD has Fash on a Woman's Christian Temperance Union rant.


There's no arguing reason with that sort...
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 24, 2020, 04:00:22 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
There's no arguing reason with that sort...

Nope.  Couldn't reason with them over 100 years ago, in the US at least, and nothing has changed.



Religion is one thing you can count on that will turn people into robots who cannot think logically for themselves, and will only recite what they have been taught from a fictional book.



I think we all agree that drinking and driving is not good.  That said, what somebody does in the privacy of their own home is their business.  The article I linked clearly shows just how easily civil liberties can be eroded by small, special interest groups.



Cases like these are currently working through their way to the Supreme Court of Canada, and I fucking hope when it comes judgement time that this bullshit is quashed fucking hard and fast.  



Three Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms acts have been violated in the story in my link, and usually it takes only one or two for shit to get corrected at the Supreme Court level.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 24, 2020, 09:09:29 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Shen Li"Here we go. DD has Fash on a Woman's Christian Temperance Union rant.


There's no arguing reason with that sort...

Alcohol is poison, it destroys lives and I would like to see no alcohol produced ever again.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Blazor on January 24, 2020, 10:02:20 AM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"I'm tired of hearing about religions and politics.  I wish people could just be kind to eachother...but nooo its too hard to do...


Wanna party tonight Berry?  ac_dance
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Blazor on January 24, 2020, 10:06:19 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Shen Li"Here we go. DD has Fash on a Woman's Christian Temperance Union rant.


There's no arguing reason with that sort...

Alcohol is poison, it destroys lives and I would like to see no alcohol produced ever again.


Please pray to Jesus, that next time he turns the water into pineapple juice  :laugh:



Alcohol is bad on the liver and such, if consumed too much. It also is bad for "some" folks, as it makes them mean. But, there are some folks, that when they drink "spirits", it uplifts them. Whats wrong with someone wanting to be happy and festive?
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 24, 2020, 10:46:16 AM
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Shen Li"Here we go. DD has Fash on a Woman's Christian Temperance Union rant.


There's no arguing reason with that sort...

Alcohol is poison, it destroys lives and I would like to see no alcohol produced ever again.


Please pray to Jesus, that next time he turns the water into pineapple juice  :laugh:



Alcohol is bad on the liver and such, if consumed too much. It also is bad for "some" folks, as it makes them mean. But, there are some folks, that when they drink "spirits", it uplifts them. Whats wrong with someone wanting to be happy and festive?

As I said, my objection to the production and consumption of alcohol is not based on my faith....I know Jesus imbibed..



I think alcohol should be banned because it destroys lives and places a burden on public health care.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Blurt on January 24, 2020, 02:05:42 PM
Mel, don't drink and drive.



You fuck your own shit up if you do.



Sometimes I'll have a glass of red wine at dinner. I have it for the taste, not the alcohol.



Fash, the use of substances that affect the CNS was originally associated with religious praxis. This, from the dawn of recorded history. Considerations of health and safety won't overcome anything. Especially when the issue is never the use of drugs and alcohol, but rather their abuse.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 24, 2020, 02:45:10 PM
Quote from: "Blurt"Mel, don't drink and drive.



You fuck your own shit up if you do.



Sometimes I'll have a glass of red wine at dinner. I have it for the taste, not the alcohol.



Fash, the use of substances that affect the CNS was originally associated with religious praxis. This, from the dawn of recorded history. Considerations of health and safety won't overcome anything. Especially when the issue is never the use of drugs and alcohol, but rather their abuse.

Are you saying liberation theology types were hitting the barrel wash. They should have exercised a little restraint like old Herman does. I only have a thimble or two of swish.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Frood on January 24, 2020, 04:19:42 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Shen Li"Here we go. DD has Fash on a Woman's Christian Temperance Union rant.


There's no arguing reason with that sort...

Alcohol is poison, it destroys lives and I would like to see no alcohol produced ever again.


Same could be said of religion and communism....



Tell you what... you give up the poison of religion and I'll forsake the sacred nectar of the fallen apple... deal?  :laugh:
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Blazor on January 24, 2020, 06:36:52 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Shen Li"Here we go. DD has Fash on a Woman's Christian Temperance Union rant.


There's no arguing reason with that sort...

Alcohol is poison, it destroys lives and I would like to see no alcohol produced ever again.


Same could be said of religion and communism....



Tell you what... you give up the poison of religion and I'll forsake the sacred nectar of the fallen apple... deal?  :laugh:




This is how I feel Fash looks at some of us sometimes lolololol.......



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Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2020, 04:05:52 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
As I said, my objection to the production and consumption of alcohol is not based on my faith....I know Jesus imbibed..



I think alcohol should be banned because it destroys lives and places a burden on public health care.

Your thoughts are very simplistic in nature, and I have a hard time believing your disgust with alcoholic beverages isn't faith related...



That said, I will humour you.  If your preoccupation with banning spirits isn't faith based, then my only conclusion reasons that your husband drinks to excess.



Does your husband drink, Fash?  Or any other close family member?



On to part two:  Prohibition doesn't work.  It has been tried, and it failed.  Alcoholic beverages are easy for most anyone to make, so you cannot stop the supply.  Governments have learned long ago it's best to simply tax the shit out of the product, just as they do with tobacco.  Trust me...  Heavy drinkers and smokers, and least in Canada, have paid more in taxes than probably anyone else has.  We cover our own expenses.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: caskur on January 25, 2020, 04:12:33 AM
The Bible doesn't prohibit alcohol consumption, it just tells people not to drink to excess.



Ignorant atheists make me laugh.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Berry Sweet on January 25, 2020, 04:12:55 AM
My choice not to drink alcohol isn't faith related...it's a lifestyle choice...I'm sure Fash has made the same choice...not everyone drinks or guzzles down a few.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2020, 04:26:51 AM
Quote from: "caskur"The Bible doesn't prohibit alcohol consumption, it just tells people not to drink to excess.



Ignorant atheists make me laugh.

Are you on any prescription painkillers?
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2020, 04:28:41 AM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"My choice not to drink alcohol isn't faith related...it's a lifestyle choice...I'm sure Fash has made the same choice...not everyone drinks or guzzles down a few.

And good on you for that.  You have made personal decisions that seem to be working for you.



What Fash is parroting, time and time again, is that alcohol must be banned and prohibited...  A different mindset.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: caskur on January 25, 2020, 04:36:08 AM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "caskur"The Bible doesn't prohibit alcohol consumption, it just tells people not to drink to excess.



Ignorant atheists make me laugh.

Are you on any prescription painkillers?


I haven't taken any for 3 days but yes, I was taking them after my operation... so fuckin' what?
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2020, 04:40:41 AM
Quote from: "caskur"


I haven't taken any for 3 days but yes, I was taking them after my operation... so fuckin' what?

Opiate meds destroy people and families...  You should be ashamed!
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2020, 04:48:58 AM
An oldie, but a goody...





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jrArtVOdrg
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2020, 05:00:17 AM
Quote from: "Blurt"Mel, don't drink and drive.

I generally don't.



However, where I live now is lawless, my Blurtski!



Seatbelts and sober driving are optional...  Since this land is lawless!



I like it!  This street takes care of its own people.  Most people are very independent.



We handle our own out here, and besides, there's no cell service in this valley!  Can't cry to Momma or the Cops out here!



I've never lived in a safer, quieter, Whiter area in my life!  I love it!



No population here, and Cops are minimum 30 minutes away from Castlegar...
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2020, 05:10:48 AM
I love the people out here...  They actually talk and make eye contact!  They do not get uppity.  They mind their shit.



I need to adjust to this, to be honest.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: caskur on January 25, 2020, 05:27:55 AM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "caskur"


I haven't taken any for 3 days but yes, I was taking them after my operation... so fuckin' what?

Opiate meds destroy people and families...  You should be ashamed!


Only druggies abuse meds... I'm not a druggie...



fuck you're dumb.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2020, 05:34:38 AM
Quote from: "caskur"
Only druggies abuse meds... I'm not a druggie...



fuck you're dumb.

So Opiates are OK, but alcohol is not?
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2020, 05:41:47 AM
Quote from: "caskur"fuck you're dumb.

I don't think so.  I am the only poster that has managed to get himself permabanned from every forum around these parts not for breaking any rules, but instead for simply challenging posters, their views, and the administration itself.



No harm intended!
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: caskur on January 25, 2020, 08:24:05 AM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "caskur"
Only druggies abuse meds... I'm not a druggie...



fuck you're dumb.

So Opiates are OK, but alcohol is not?


opiates are the best pain killers available to mankind... if you're a dopey fuck and misuse them to excess you bloody well deserve to die.



Alcohol is great for rubbing on a wound. It kills 100% of germs.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Frood on January 25, 2020, 09:44:59 AM
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Shen Li"Here we go. DD has Fash on a Woman's Christian Temperance Union rant.


There's no arguing reason with that sort...

Alcohol is poison, it destroys lives and I would like to see no alcohol produced ever again.


Same could be said of religion and communism....



Tell you what... you give up the poison of religion and I'll forsake the sacred nectar of the fallen apple... deal?  :laugh:




This is how I feel Fash looks at some of us sometimes lolololol.......



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Heavens forbid she ever wanders under a fruit tree well past the summer growing season...



 ac_biggrin
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2020, 10:27:10 AM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
As I said, my objection to the production and consumption of alcohol is not based on my faith....I know Jesus imbibed..



I think alcohol should be banned because it destroys lives and places a burden on public health care.

Your thoughts are very simplistic in nature, and I have a hard time believing your disgust with alcoholic beverages isn't faith related...



That said, I will humour you.  If your preoccupation with banning spirits isn't faith based, then my only conclusion reasons that your husband drinks to excess.



Does your husband drink, Fash?  Or any other close family member?



On to part two:  Prohibition doesn't work.  It has been tried, and it failed.  Alcoholic beverages are easy for most anyone to make, so you cannot stop the supply.  Governments have learned long ago it's best to simply tax the shit out of the product, just as they do with tobacco.  Trust me...  Heavy drinkers and smokers, and least in Canada, have paid more in taxes than probably anyone else has.  We cover our own expenses.

No, my husband doesn't drink alcohol.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2020, 10:30:18 AM
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Shen Li"Here we go. DD has Fash on a Woman's Christian Temperance Union rant.


There's no arguing reason with that sort...

Alcohol is poison, it destroys lives and I would like to see no alcohol produced ever again.


Same could be said of religion and communism....



Tell you what... you give up the poison of religion and I'll forsake the sacred nectar of the fallen apple... deal?  :laugh:




This is how I feel Fash looks at some of us sometimes lolololol.......



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Am I that judgemental?



Maybe I should keep my opinions to myself, but I truly believe the world would be a better place without alcohol.

 ac_unsure
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Blurt on January 25, 2020, 12:27:15 PM
Yes, but Dinkies has a point. The same could be said for religion.



Pick your poison, I guess.  ac_dunno
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2020, 12:31:42 PM
Quote from: "Blurt"
Pick your poison, I guess.  ac_dunno

golf
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Blazor on January 25, 2020, 07:29:34 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Shen Li"Here we go. DD has Fash on a Woman's Christian Temperance Union rant.


There's no arguing reason with that sort...

Alcohol is poison, it destroys lives and I would like to see no alcohol produced ever again.


Same could be said of religion and communism....



Tell you what... you give up the poison of religion and I'll forsake the sacred nectar of the fallen apple... deal?  :laugh:




This is how I feel Fash looks at some of us sometimes lolololol.......



(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://media3.giphy.com/media/ainqHgYdVt33O/giphy.gif%22%3Ehttps://media3.giphy.com/media/ainqHgYdVt33O/giphy.gif%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)

Am I that judgemental?



Maybe I should keep my opinions to myself, but I truly believe the world would be a better place without alcohol.

 ac_unsure




Hahaha no you are fine Fash! I promise!



That was in reference to a lot of things, not just alcohol lol. Like sometimes you look at some of us, and wanna say something foul sometimes about something, but resist lol.



I know how you feel Fash, and its fine you feel that way. But I truly hope you dont truly wanna wish that upon society as a whole. A lot of things are totally fine in moderation and depending upon who is doing it. Some folks just hate things they may be going through, and turn to things, or just wanna liven things up a bit. As long as it turns them into a positive state and not a negative one, Im ok with that.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Frood on January 25, 2020, 09:42:44 PM
Everyone is responsible for the outcome of their actions... I'd like to keep it that way....
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Berry Sweet on January 25, 2020, 09:53:19 PM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "caskur"
Only druggies abuse meds... I'm not a druggie...



fuck you're dumb.

So Opiates are OK, but alcohol is not?


Imho, alcohol is the worst form of addiction.  And more so than anything because it's so normalized and readily available.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2020, 10:39:45 PM
I like my single malt Scotch, my Grey Goose vodka, and my premium beer. I am not giving them up without a fight.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 26, 2020, 12:14:05 AM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"Imho, alcohol is the worst form of addiction.  And more so than anything because it's so normalized and readily available.

Berry, you've been hooked on almost every type of drug commonly available, you I'm not sure you can give advice...



Jenkem

Meth

Coke

Heroin

Alcohol

Uppers

Downers

All Arounders

Baribturates

Benzodiazepines

MDMA

Krokodil

Bath Salts

Psilocybin

Crack

Ice

LSD

PCP

Glue

Ketamine





...and Lord knows what else.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: caskur on January 26, 2020, 01:04:16 AM
You forgot tea and coffee, dipstick!~
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Berry Sweet on January 26, 2020, 05:49:22 PM
Bath salts  :laugh3:   I don't even know what some of those are!?



Again with my past from sooo long ago.  So I did some  coke and heroin in the 90's, who didn't?



Oh yeah, you forgot food.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 26, 2020, 07:15:47 PM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"Imho, alcohol is the worst form of addiction.  And more so than anything because it's so normalized and readily available.

Berry, you've been hooked on almost every type of drug commonly available, you I'm not sure you can give advice...



Jenkem

Meth

Coke

Heroin

Alcohol

Uppers

Downers

All Arounders

Baribturates

Benzodiazepines

MDMA

Krokodil

Bath Salts

Psilocybin

Crack

Ice

LSD

PCP

Glue

Ketamine





...and Lord knows what else.

You forgot farts :beurk:
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Berry Sweet on January 26, 2020, 07:25:45 PM
Very outdated.  Lo is a teenager now.



Nothing wrong with farts, they're hilarious.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 26, 2020, 09:50:56 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Nothing wrong with farts, they're hilarious.

Not in elevators.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 26, 2020, 11:01:20 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"Again with my past from sooo long ago.  So I did some  coke and heroin in the 90's, who didn't?

Umm, most people?
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Blazor on January 27, 2020, 10:27:31 AM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"Very outdated.  Lo is a teenager now.



Nothing wrong with farts, they're hilarious.


Nothing wrong at all, Im farting right now lol. Just hope no one walks into my office area lol. Unless its my boss, he could use some payback  :laugh:
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Berry Sweet on January 27, 2020, 04:51:02 PM
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"Very outdated.  Lo is a teenager now.



Nothing wrong with farts, they're hilarious.


Nothing wrong at all, Im farting right now lol. Just hope no one walks into my office area lol. Unless its my boss, he could use some payback  :laugh:


Haha, right!?  I'll fart where I want, how I want and when I want....and if no one likes it...too bad.   :evilthoughts2:
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Berry Sweet on January 27, 2020, 04:53:49 PM
Tops skids!
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Anonymous on January 27, 2020, 06:17:58 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"Very outdated.  Lo is a teenager now.



Nothing wrong with farts, they're hilarious.


Nothing wrong at all, Im farting right now lol. Just hope no one walks into my office area lol. Unless its my boss, he could use some payback  :laugh:


Haha, right!?  I'll fart where I want, how I want and when I want....and if no one likes it...too bad.   :evilthoughts2:

If I see you waiting for the elevator, I will take the stairs.
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Blazor on January 27, 2020, 10:21:08 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"Very outdated.  Lo is a teenager now.



Nothing wrong with farts, they're hilarious.


Nothing wrong at all, Im farting right now lol. Just hope no one walks into my office area lol. Unless its my boss, he could use some payback  :laugh:


Haha, right!?  I'll fart where I want, how I want and when I want....and if no one likes it...too bad.   :evilthoughts2:


 :laugh:  :thumbup:  ac_drinks
Title: Re: I told you this was going to happen...
Post by: Blazor on January 27, 2020, 10:22:10 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"Very outdated.  Lo is a teenager now.



Nothing wrong with farts, they're hilarious.


Nothing wrong at all, Im farting right now lol. Just hope no one walks into my office area lol. Unless its my boss, he could use some payback  :laugh:


Haha, right!?  I'll fart where I want, how I want and when I want....and if no one likes it...too bad.   :evilthoughts2:

If I see you waiting for the elevator, I will take the stairs.


Its rude to not accept a gift when given Seoul.



 :laugh: