Title: WORLD REACTS!!! - We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: cc on March 16, 2020, 11:04:37 PM
Post by: cc on March 16, 2020, 11:04:37 PM
Chinese laboratories identified a mystery virus as a highly infectious new pathogen by late December last year, but they were ordered to stop tests, destroy samples and suppress the news, a Chinese media outlet has revealed.
A regional health official in Wuhan, centre of the outbreak, demanded the destruction of the lab samples that established the cause of unexplained viral pneumonia on January 1. China did not acknowledge there was human-to-human transmission until more than three weeks later.
The detailed revelations by Caixin Global, a respected independent publication, provide the clearest evidence yet of the scale of the cover-up in the crucial early weeks when the opportunity was lost to control the outbreak.
And the Chinese government's attempt to silence doctors warning others about the disease:
As word of a mysterious virus mounted, Li Wenliang shared suspicions in a private chat with his fellow medical school graduates.
The doctor said that seven people seemed to have contracted SARS — the respiratory illness that spread from China to more than two dozen countries and left hundreds dead in the early 2000s. One patient was quarantined at his hospital in Wuhan, China, Li said. He urged people to be careful.
Li and seven other doctors were quickly summoned by Chinese authorities for propagating "rumors" about SARS-like cases in the area — but their warnings were prescient. Soon, health officials worldwide would be scrambling to combat a novel virus with a striking genetic resemblance to SARS.
And the Chinese authorities spending January "denying it could spread between humans — something doctors had known was happening since late December — and went ahead with a Chinese Lunar New Year banquet involving tens of thousands of families in Wuhan." Doctors say that in Wuhan, people who had no connection to that Hua'nan market were among the first showing the symptoms — suggesting that from the beginning, Chinese authorities should have understood that human-to-human transmission was already happening.
Even by the Chinese government's own account of events, President Xi Jinping knew about the disease for two weeks before making any public comments about it.
Under fire for its response to the coronavirus epidemic, China's authoritarian government appears to be pushing a new account of events that presents President Xi Jinping as taking early action to fight the outbreak that has convulsed the country.
But in doing so, the authorities have acknowledged for the first time that Mr. Xi was aware of the epidemic and involved in the response nearly two weeks before he first spoke publicly about it — and while officials at its epicenter in the city of Wuhan were still playing down its dangers.
The Wall Street Journal calculates that the Chinese government "let some five million people leave Wuhan without screening." Chinese medical authorities were much more concerned about preserving Wuhan's reputation than the contagious, deadly disease:
The hospital's leadership also banned staff from discussing the disease in public or via texts or images, Dr. Ai Fen said. Eight days later, a nurse in her department started to feel sick, and it was later confirmed she was infected by the coronavirus. By early March, three doctors at the hospital had died from the infection.
Even today, prominent Chinese citizens who criticize the government's response suddenly disappear. The Chinese government is much more effective at stopping the spread of information about the coronavirus than stopping the spread of the coronavirus. Pardon me, the "Wuhan virus."
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2020, 11:12:34 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2020, 11:12:34 PM
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: cc on March 16, 2020, 11:28:31 PM
Post by: cc on March 16, 2020, 11:28:31 PM
I've never been big on it myself ... "dick"tatorships were never on my good list ... they do whatever it takes to save face and to maintain power
Say - would please check for a quick pm to you?
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: cc on March 17, 2020, 01:00:03 AM
Post by: cc on March 17, 2020, 01:00:03 AM
By Gordon Wysong
The analysis of engineering or business problems often includes a list of positive and negative aspects of implementing changes. So too should the analysis of the effects of the coronavirus. What has been seen so far has been a panoply of negatives, many exaggerated for political fodder or as clickbait in the press's cry for attention. A sober look at this, however, can lead to a different conclusion. Will America be stronger, and will other nations take a cue from our success? The answer is a surprising yes.
Imagine what the world will be like when 2022 arrives. The coronavirus's effects will become so small that they will be lost in the noise of the day, but what will remain of its lessons? First and foremost is that many lives will have been saved.
The hand-washing and sanitation precautions that will be permanently incorporated into American culture will diminish flu deaths in 2020, in 2021, in 2022, and perpetually. Rather than 25,000–70,000 flu deaths annually, the numbers may drop by tens of thousands, even in 2020. The spreading of America's sanitation obsession will impact not only its own population, but that of many nations, in a way that educators and health professional could never accomplish.
This saves lives — lots of lives. Stubborn resistance to the onerous habits of sanitation will be broken down by this one virus's actions on the psyche of people. These changes will pass to future generations, lasting not just a few years, but lifetimes and longer, and each year, more lives will be saved.
These benefits are undeniably going to happen. But it is not just in the health arena that America will see long-term benefits. It will be in the alteration of business practices, long accepted as they were invisibly implemented. Who knew? Ninety-five percent of antibiotics were manufactured in China, and no one discussed it. Now the vulnerability of America is displayed in front of the people — not the little cliques of "health professionals" and CEOs who fostered it. With the Chinese penchant for lying, adulteration, blackmail, and price-gouging, will such a situation exist in 2022? No, because if it doesn't change rapidly, a lot of CEOs will find themselves unemployed.
Antibiotics are not the only pharmaceuticals or nutritional supplements coming from China, and soon the marketers of such products will face their turn in front of the bus. Their executives see it coming. Changes will be rapid and, again, invisible. They do not want their products to be the ones cited in future news stories. "Good riddance to China" will be the mantra of the entire industry, and America will be the huge beneficiary of increased domestic production, increased research on improved quality, and increased security — a trifecta that blunts the advantages China has sought to use against the U.S.
There is more, much more, that will be seen to improve America. The coronavirus has been a wake-up call, and this time there is no snooze button. If a supply chain is entangled with Chinese production due to technology, the business relying on sole sourcing is foolish beyond words. If that still exists in 2022, the business is doomed. CEOs, technology experts within large companies, and business analysts are going to be asking a lot of questions, and someone in the organization had better have answers. The most obvious answer is to relocate advanced technology manufacturing to secure nations, including America.
Other strangleholds that the Chinese have engineered will also fall. For instance, rare earth minerals have been a strength in Chinese trade. This is largely because the pollution from the by products is so severe that no other nation will ignore this defiling of the environment. That will change when the price curve is no longer the sole consideration, and with this change, dependence on some of the electronic devices that require such metals will change as well. When China can withhold supplies, or when it gouges prices, it is easier to go along to get along and simply have the component made in China. The scarcity of the metals is not a resource issue; it is an engineering and mining issue, and soon the U.S. will address it.
War? The prospects of such an eventuality are certainly there. China has been stealing our technology, as well as European and Russian technology, to position itself as a superpower. Such ambitions are fraught with danger, because those who go to war are generally those who think they can win. America must never let an adversary believe that. Crackdowns on the theft of intellectual and military secrets have been initiated by Trump, and they will be ramped up. The loss of free travel will restrict the movement of spies and ultimately hollow out the military ambitions of China. This will lead to increased freedom in the Chinese sphere of influence. Such freer people tend to align with America (à la Hong Kong), and as that happens, the prospects of an eventual war diminish.
Internally, the mindset of Americans is undergoing a dramatic change. Not being considered are other long-lasting effects on the actions and attitudes of Americans. Older American have seen privation, or been closely associated with a generation that really knew what it meant, and told them about it. Younger Americans — not so much. Today, that changed, and tomorrow, the lessons will endure. A shortage of toilet paper is not much of a crisis, but seeing meat counters bare, cleaning products cleaned out, and all athletic contests canceled drives home a serious side to life that most Millennials have not incorporated into themselves. Are they scared? One would hope so. It might mean that issues of free stuff seem a little frivolous. Given a period of retrenchment, these youths will not be so gullible again.
This isn't exactly a baptism of fire for the under-40 crowd, but it does suddenly bring them into the culture of Americans who have lived a lot longer. They may learn some valuable lessons and, by 2022, change the focus from attending a rave party or scoring a blunt to relying on family and working to gain a sense of security. The stay-at-home isolation, with no athletics on TV, will also lead to a baby boom. This will be a huge boon to America for many reasons.
In past pandemics, the Spanish Flu killed 50,000,000 people, the Asian Flu killed 1–2,000,000, and the Hong Kong Flu killed 1–4,000,000. And what lessons were learned from them? Health professionals learned many but never could communicate them effectively enough to change the culture. Lacking a receptive audience, their efforts were in vain. To say these were lost opportunities would be an understatement. Oh, there was some change that the people accepted, but it was never across the full spectrum of the American society.
This time will be different. A full alteration of cultural norms will ensue in the aftermath of the coronavirus. It will be industrial, health, intelligence, educational, military, financial, strategic, and emotional. The upside will never be entirely appreciated, but China's government and its plans will be a loser in all this, and the balance of the world will benefit immensely. The regrettable loss of life, and a short-term financial cost, unfortunately cannot be avoided, but the benefits of the coronavirus will prevail and endure — more so if Americans take the initiative.
Gordon Wysong is an engineer and entrepreneur who has served as a county commissioner in Cobb County, Ga.
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Anonymous on March 17, 2020, 01:35:21 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 17, 2020, 01:35:21 AM
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Anonymous on March 17, 2020, 03:12:24 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 17, 2020, 03:12:24 PM
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Gaon on March 19, 2020, 03:06:21 PM
Post by: Gaon on March 19, 2020, 03:06:21 PM
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: cc on March 19, 2020, 04:43:30 PM
Post by: cc on March 19, 2020, 04:43:30 PM
LEGEND: Close Up Photo of Trump's Notes Shows He Crossed Out "Corona" and Replaced it with "Chinese" Virus
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Anonymous on March 19, 2020, 06:36:03 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 19, 2020, 06:36:03 PM
Damn . .I hope things turn around for you fairly soonQuote from: "cc"
LEGEND: Close Up Photo of Trump's Notes Shows He Crossed Out "Corona" and Replaced it with "Chinese" Virus(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/ETfa0B-XQAIg63A-600x400.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-con%20...%2000x400.jpg%22%3Ehttps://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/ETfa0B-XQAIg63A-600x400.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: cc on March 20, 2020, 05:37:54 PM
Post by: cc on March 20, 2020, 05:37:54 PM
Spread the Love!!
"Woke" Italians a month ago
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Anonymous on March 20, 2020, 05:42:24 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 20, 2020, 05:42:24 PM
Last month Chinese Global Television Network sent a Chinese man to hug Italians to fight against Xenophobia and racism toward Chinese PeopleQuote from: "cc"
Spread the Love!!
"Woke" Italians a month agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=180&v=IDYJn4RQzsc&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: cc on March 20, 2020, 05:55:31 PM
Post by: cc on March 20, 2020, 05:55:31 PM
Every day I become angrier at the monster from Asia
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Anonymous on March 20, 2020, 05:59:11 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 20, 2020, 05:59:11 PM
I teared up this morning looking at Italy's latest and total numbers - It's a hell thereQuote from: "cc"
Last I saw they had 47,000 confirmed cases. The quarantine is not producing the desired results.
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: cc on March 20, 2020, 08:28:57 PM
Post by: cc on March 20, 2020, 08:28:57 PM
"Generally countries like China have sovereign immunity and governments cannot be brought to regular courts or held liable regardless of their conduct," Nitsana Darshan-Leitner, an Israel-based attorney who has long specialized in suing terrorist regimes and state sponsors who orchestrate human rights abuses on behalf of victims, told Fox News.
"However, an argument could be made that just like support for terrorism, which is legally actionable,
"Cover-ups and deliberate acts to conceal a deadly medical crisis
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: cc on March 20, 2020, 10:11:36 PM
Post by: cc on March 20, 2020, 10:11:36 PM
Taiwan is blaming the World Health Organization's relationship with China for its failure to act on early warnings of human-to-human transmission of coronavirus.
Taiwanese health officials alerted WHO of the infectivity of coronavirus in late December 2019, but the organization failed to report the claims to other countries, according to a Financial Times report.
Weeks after receiving Taiwan's warning, on Jan. 14, WHO repeated China's claim that coronavirus was not contagious among humans
Taiwan reported its concerns to a WHO framework called the International Health Regulations on Dec. 31, 2019. The IHR framework is intended to be an exchange of epidemic data between 196 countries.
"While the IHR's internal website provides a platform for all countries to share information on the epidemic and their response, none of the information shared by our country's [Centers for Disease Control] is being put up there," Taiwanese Vice President Chen Chien-Jen told the Financial Times.
"The WHO could not obtain first-hand information to study and judge whether there was human-to-human transmission of COVID-10. This led it to announce human-to-human transmission with a delay, and an opportunity to raise the alert level both in China and the wider world was lost," Chen added.
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: cc on March 20, 2020, 10:17:04 PM
Post by: cc on March 20, 2020, 10:17:04 PM
The World Health Organization (WHO) tried to cam fears of a pandemic on Jan. 14 by repeating China's claim that coronavirus was not contagious among humans.
"Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China," the WHO tweeted.
But the virus' means of transmission was far from the only misinformation coming from Chinese officials.
Beijing reported that the first known cases of the novel coronavirus were recorded in mid-December — but later reporting from outside sources suggested that the earliest cases were tracked in November and kept under wraps.
In addition, Caixin Global reported that Chinese officials had identified the virus as early as mid-December — but were instructed to destroy both their test results and their samples.
Despite the lack of cooperation from China as other nations began to grapple with the spread of coronavirus, WHO Director General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus praised Chinese President Xi Jinping for China's response with regard to testing protocols and quarantines.
The South China Morning Post noted that one British member of the WHO had referred to the shuttering of Wuhan under a mass quarantine — affecting some 11 million people — as "heroic."
Fending off criticism that he made the appreciative remarks just to save China "face," Tedros insisted that China "doesn't need to be asked to be praised" for its efforts to contain the spread of the virus.
Fuck you China - Fuck you WHO too
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Frood on March 21, 2020, 11:22:41 AM
Post by: Frood on March 21, 2020, 11:22:41 AM
Okay... bring it on! I'm tired of the scenarios.. Let me die or live...
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Anonymous on March 21, 2020, 03:13:41 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 21, 2020, 03:13:41 PM
Most of us will be infected, some of us will die...Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Okay... bring it on! I'm tired of the scenarios.. Let me die or live...
I really don't want to catch it. I smoked for twenty seven years. I heard it's merciless on smokers. I only quit three and a half years ago.
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: cc on March 21, 2020, 04:42:02 PM
Post by: cc on March 21, 2020, 04:42:02 PM
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Anonymous on March 21, 2020, 05:09:54 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 21, 2020, 05:09:54 PM
Most of us will be infected, some of us will die...Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Okay... bring it on! I'm tired of the scenarios.. Let me die or live...
I really don't want to catch it. I smoked for twenty seven years. I heard it's merciless on smokers. I only quit three and a half years ago.
I am an ex smoker too. Even though I quit a long time ago, I;m worried. I will be fifty one next month.
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Odinson on March 21, 2020, 10:04:36 PM
Post by: Odinson on March 21, 2020, 10:04:36 PM
With the current leadership, it doesnt matter how many warnings we get..
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Anonymous on March 21, 2020, 10:43:44 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 21, 2020, 10:43:44 PM
Most of us will be infected, some of us will die...Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Okay... bring it on! I'm tired of the scenarios.. Let me die or live...
I really don't want to catch it. I smoked for twenty seven years. I heard it's merciless on smokers. I only quit three and a half years ago.
I am an ex smoker too. Even though I quit a long time ago, I;m worried. I will be fifty one next month.
You live a healthy lifestyle though.
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Odinson on March 21, 2020, 11:24:47 PM
Post by: Odinson on March 21, 2020, 11:24:47 PM
Now would be a good time to start drinking vodka again.
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Anonymous on March 22, 2020, 03:23:45 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 22, 2020, 03:23:45 AM
Spain warns the "worst is yet to come" as coronavirus deaths surpass 1,300
MADRID (Reuters) - The Spanish government said on Saturday it would do whatever was needed to combat the coronavirus pandemic and warned that "the worst is yet to come" after the national toll surpassed 1,300 deaths and reached close to 25,000 cases.
The second-worst outbreak in Europe showed no sign of slowing as the death toll jumped by more than 300 from the previous day. Intensive care units are filling up in some hospitals. "We have yet to receive the impact of the strongest, most damaging wave, which will test our material and moral capacities to the limit, as well as our spirit as a society," Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez told a news briefing.
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: caskur on March 22, 2020, 05:38:01 AM
Post by: caskur on March 22, 2020, 05:38:01 AM
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Anonymous on March 22, 2020, 11:39:16 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 22, 2020, 11:39:16 AM
39 year old USA woman dies of the Chinese Virus.Quote from: "caskur"https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/39yo-in-good-health-dies-suddenly-with-covid-19-symptoms/ar-BB11wPaT?ocid=spartanntp
That is scary.
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: caskur on March 22, 2020, 12:23:40 PM
Post by: caskur on March 22, 2020, 12:23:40 PM
39 year old USA woman dies of the Chinese Virus.Quote from: "caskur"https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/39yo-in-good-health-dies-suddenly-with-covid-19-symptoms/ar-BB11wPaT?ocid=spartanntp
That is scary.
Trust me... she wouldn't be the only one.
It is going to effect the younger people. I heard one survivor say, it is a VERY painful condition on day eight.
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: cc on March 24, 2020, 02:53:42 PM
Post by: cc on March 24, 2020, 02:53:42 PM
Health officials in Taipei said they alerted the WHO at the end of December about the risk of human-to-human transmission but says its concerns and warnings were not passed on to other countries that could have benefited from it.
Taiwan claimed its doctors had heard from their mainland China colleagues that medical staff treating patients were getting sick -- an obvious sign that person-to-person transmissions were taking place, the Financial Times reported. Taipei officials said they reported their fears to Chinese health authorities as well as to the International Health Regulations, a World Health Organization outfit that was created to allow countries to work together during health emergencies, but that their information fell on deaf ears.
"While the IHR's internal website provides a platform for all countries to share information on the epidemic and their response, none of the information shared by our country's (Centers for Disease Control) is being put up there," Taiwan's Vice President Chen Chien-ien said.
What's worse is that because the WHO could not obtain first-hand information to study and judge the potential severity of the novel coronavirus, it was slow to sound the alarm, Chen said.
China only confirmed person-to-person transmission of COVID-19 on January 20, after the WHO said in mid-January that there might be "limited" cases of transmission.
Listening to Taiwan's early warnings could have saved hundreds of thousands of people from getting the deadly disease.
The problem, some say, is the relationship between the WHO and China.
FKKKKKK CHINA
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Anonymous on March 24, 2020, 03:05:36 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 24, 2020, 03:05:36 PM
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: cc on March 24, 2020, 03:11:19 PM
Post by: cc on March 24, 2020, 03:11:19 PM
Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., and Rep. Elise Stefanik, R-N.Y., are demanding China fork over money to nations afflicted with the novel coronavirus, arguing the Chinese Communist Party must pay for its "lies" about the early outbreak of the virus.
The pair of GOP lawmakers introduced a bicameral resolution Tuesday calling for an international investigation to quantify the harm caused by the Chinese Communist Party's (CCP) cover-up of the early spread of the coronavirus pandemic.
"Since day one, the Chinese Communist Party intentionally lied to the world about the origin of this pandemic," Hawley said in a statement. "The CCP was aware of the reality of the virus as early as December but ordered laboratories to destroy samples and forced doctors to keep silent. It is time for an international investigation into the role their cover-up played in the spread of this devastating pandemic. The CCP must be held to account for what the world is now suffering."
Their resolution's wording condemns the Chinese government for recently arguing that COVID–19 did not originate in China and for alleging "that the United States Army may have delivered COVID–19 to the city of Wuhan."
Stefanik said there's no doubt China "knowingly withheld critical information needed to combat the spread of the Chinese-born COVID-19 and to this day continues to spread lies and disinformation on the origin of the deadly virus."
Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have been going after China. Earlier Tuesday, Rep. Jim Banks, R-Ind., introduced a bipartisan resolution to condemn the Chinese government over its handling of the coronavirus outbreak, painting a stark picture of lies and mismanagement contributing to the pandemic that has infected nearly 390,000 people worldwide and killed more than 16,700.
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Anonymous on March 24, 2020, 03:27:24 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 24, 2020, 03:27:24 PM
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: cc on March 24, 2020, 03:53:41 PM
Post by: cc on March 24, 2020, 03:53:41 PM
However, making a statement / taking a stand can matter morale wise ... even if not workable
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Odinson on March 24, 2020, 04:31:16 PM
Post by: Odinson on March 24, 2020, 04:31:16 PM
Remind your missus of the corona rules when she wants to cuddle.
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Anonymous on March 24, 2020, 04:49:12 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 24, 2020, 04:49:12 PM
True also.Quote from: "cc"
However, making a statement / taking a stand can matter moral wise ... even if not workable
It's good even when it makes no difference to China.
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: cc on March 24, 2020, 07:17:28 PM
Post by: cc on March 24, 2020, 07:17:28 PM
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Gaon on March 25, 2020, 01:55:38 AM
Post by: Gaon on March 25, 2020, 01:55:38 AM
True also.Quote from: "cc"
However, making a statement / taking a stand can matter moral wise ... even if not workable
It's good even when it makes no difference to China.
Do you mean morally it's good, but it won't change China?
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Frood on March 25, 2020, 02:05:00 AM
Post by: Frood on March 25, 2020, 02:05:00 AM
Hugging is not okay... But having sex is still allowed.Quote from: "Odinson"
Remind your missus of the corona rules when she wants to cuddle.
Doggy style is safe...
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Blazor on March 25, 2020, 10:05:09 AM
Post by: Blazor on March 25, 2020, 10:05:09 AM
Hugging is not okay... But having sex is still allowed.Quote from: "Odinson"
Remind your missus of the corona rules when she wants to cuddle.
Doggy style is safe...
Hahaha, I was gonna post that last night, but walked away from the computer and forgot lol.
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Anonymous on March 25, 2020, 10:14:06 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 25, 2020, 10:14:06 AM
True also.Quote from: "cc"
However, making a statement / taking a stand can matter moral wise ... even if not workable
It's good even when it makes no difference to China.
Do you mean morally it's good, but it won't change China?
Yes, I think so.
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: cc on March 25, 2020, 12:34:43 PM
Post by: cc on March 25, 2020, 12:34:43 PM
True also.Quote from: "cc"
However, making a statement / taking a stand can matter moral wise ... even if not workable
It's good even when it makes no difference to China.
Do you mean morally it's good, but it won't change China?
Typo .. . meant helps our "morale" just to do something even though has no clout against the monster .... what a difference an e makes
It's also a "moral" move to call out evil
Works both ways
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Anonymous on March 25, 2020, 02:04:35 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 25, 2020, 02:04:35 PM
True also.Quote from: "cc"
However, making a statement / taking a stand can matter moral wise ... even if not workable
It's good even when it makes no difference to China.
Do you mean morally it's good, but it won't change China?
Typo .. . meant helps our "morale" just to do something even though has no clout against the monster .... what a difference an e makes
It's also a "moral" move to call out evil
Works both ways
Yep, keep exposing their evil.
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: cc on April 01, 2020, 07:40:21 PM
Post by: cc on April 01, 2020, 07:40:21 PM
Japanese Vice President Says
So far 500,000 people have signed the petition for the name switch.
Formosa TV News reported:
Pro-Taiwan Japanese politician Aso Taro blasted the World Health Organization for bowing to China and excluding Taiwan as a member state. Speaking to Japanese lawmakers, Aso Taro, the deputy prime minister, said the WHO should change its name to the "CHO," or China Health Organization.
Taro said being excluded from the global health body,
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Post by: Anonymous on April 01, 2020, 07:45:34 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 01, 2020, 07:45:34 PM
There's a lot of talk on China sins of late - I'll pop this permanent threadQuote from: "cc"
Japanese Vice President SaysWHO Should Be Renamed the CHO or the "Chinese Health Organization" (VIDEO)
So far 500,000 people have signed the petition for the name switch.
Formosa TV News reported:
Pro-Taiwan Japanese politician Aso Taro blasted the World Health Organization for bowing to China and excluding Taiwan as a member state. Speaking to Japanese lawmakers, Aso Taro, the deputy prime minister, said the WHO should change its name to the "CHO," or China Health Organization.
Taro said being excluded from the global health body,Taiwan was driven to become a world leader in combating the coronavirus. The coronavirus pandemic has led to the postponement of the 2020 Olympics in Japan.
I aint getting into the Taiwan is a country debate and driving the iron chink into a rage. But, it is a damned shame that Taiwan is outside the WHO.
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Post by: Anonymous on April 03, 2020, 11:36:41 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 03, 2020, 11:36:41 AM
The Arizona Republican says the organization needs to stop covering up for China.
Sen. Martha McSally is calling on the World Health Organization director general to step down over what she deems his assistance in covering up China's underreporting of the coronavirus, part of an escalating series of GOP criticisms of the organization.
The Arizona Republican said on Fox Business on Thursday that Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus should resign over the organization's handling of the virus, which originated in China.
"I've never trusted a communist. And their cover-up of this virus that originated with them has caused unnecessary deaths around America and around the world," said McSally.
Earlier this week, Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.) called for a congressional probe into the WHO and indicated that perhaps the United States should withhold funding for "helping Communist China cover up" the ramifications of the virus. McSally agreed that "we need to look at addressing the WHO as well." She also said U.S. debts to China "should be forgiven, as a minimum."
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Post by: kiebers on April 04, 2020, 07:27:06 AM
Post by: kiebers on April 04, 2020, 07:27:06 AM
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Post by: Anonymous on April 04, 2020, 11:43:07 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 04, 2020, 11:43:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHfePkHJlxU
If true, I would not be surprised.
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Post by: Anonymous on April 04, 2020, 01:21:15 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 04, 2020, 01:21:15 PM
Battered by the worst first-quarter economic performance since 1976, the Chinese economy is now being shifted into hyperdrive. Production is already back on track to achieve Beijing's goal of making 2020 the year the country's annual Gross Domestic Product doubles in size from 2010 to $13.1 trillion.
Experts in the field say Beijing isn't just selling a "narrative" anymore. The new strategy is intended to spread chaos and confusion and incite mistrust of governments in democratic countries. According to an analysis undertaken by the Alliance for Securing Democracy (ASD), a project of the German Marshall Fund of the United States, Beijing is adopting "increasingly aggressive tactics and techniques" and rapidly ramping up its messaging on social media platforms, often cross-pollinating with Russian and Iranian disinformation efforts and amplifying conspiracy theories from fringe third-party websites.
The SARS-CoV-2 pandemic is the breakthrough Xi Jinping, China's all-powerful paramount leader, has been waiting for. And he's making his move.
While the Chinese government's internal statistics are routinely questioned by outside analysts, China's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology credibly reports that roughly 75 per cent of small and medium-sized businesses across the country have already resumed production. According to MIIT deputy minister Xin Guobin, even Hubei province, which had been hit hardest by the COVID-19 outbreak, is already back up and running. Roughly 95 percent of companies with annual industrial revenues of at least $4 million have resumed production.
Meanwhile, most of the world's advanced economies are being sequestered in a state of suspended animation that is expected to last at least several months, or until a vaccine for the COVID-19 disease is developed, which is expected to take at least a year.
Does anybody still believe this pandemic is not exactly what China wanted.
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Post by: Gaon on April 04, 2020, 04:37:48 PM
Post by: Gaon on April 04, 2020, 04:37:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHfePkHJlxU
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Post by: cc on April 04, 2020, 07:47:57 PM
Post by: cc on April 04, 2020, 07:47:57 PM
"China has been appointed to a panel on the controversial U.N. Human Rights Council, where it will help vet candidates for important posts — despite its decades-long record of systematic human rights abuse that the U.S. has said fueled the coronavirus pandemic."
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Post by: Anonymous on April 04, 2020, 07:58:21 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 04, 2020, 07:58:21 PM
Gotta love thisQuote from: "cc"
"China has been appointed to a panel on the controversial U.N. Human Rights Council, where it will help vet candidates for important posts — despite its decades-long record of systematic human rights abuse that the U.S. has said fueled the coronavirus pandemic."https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/un-slammed-absurd-immoral-appointing-china-key-un-human-rights-panel
This reminds me of Iran being appointed to some UN council that addressed women's rights.
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Post by: Anonymous on April 04, 2020, 08:32:44 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 04, 2020, 08:32:44 PM
Beijing is claiming victory over the plague. And the Chinese Communist Party is seizing what its senior officials are calling the "opportunity" of the pandemic to realize the party's long-game objective of fully eclipsing North America and Europe in the global order.Quote from: "seoulbro"
Battered by the worst first-quarter economic performance since 1976, the Chinese economy is now being shifted into hyperdrive. Production is already back on track to achieve Beijing's goal of making 2020 the year the country's annual Gross Domestic Product doubles in size from 2010 to $13.1 trillion.
Experts in the field say Beijing isn't just selling a "narrative" anymore. The new strategy is intended to spread chaos and confusion and incite mistrust of governments in democratic countries. According to an analysis undertaken by the Alliance for Securing Democracy (ASD), a project of the German Marshall Fund of the United States, Beijing is adopting "increasingly aggressive tactics and techniques" and rapidly ramping up its messaging on social media platforms, often cross-pollinating with Russian and Iranian disinformation efforts and amplifying conspiracy theories from fringe third-party websites.
The SARS-CoV-2 pandemic is the breakthrough Xi Jinping, China's all-powerful paramount leader, has been waiting for. And he's making his move.
While the Chinese government's internal statistics are routinely questioned by outside analysts, China's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology credibly reports that roughly 75 per cent of small and medium-sized businesses across the country have already resumed production. According to MIIT deputy minister Xin Guobin, even Hubei province, which had been hit hardest by the COVID-19 outbreak, is already back up and running. Roughly 95 percent of companies with annual industrial revenues of at least $4 million have resumed production.
Meanwhile, most of the world's advanced economies are being sequestered in a state of suspended animation that is expected to last at least several months, or until a vaccine for the COVID-19 disease is developed, which is expected to take at least a year.https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/the-coronavirus-pandemic-is-the-breakthrough-xi-jinping-has-been-waiting-for-and-hes-making-his-move/
Does anybody still believe this pandemic is not exactly what China wanted.
We did this to ourselves. The West is finished. I can't wait to get out of Canada.
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Post by: Vancouver on April 04, 2020, 08:37:44 PM
Post by: Vancouver on April 04, 2020, 08:37:44 PM
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: cc on April 04, 2020, 08:49:33 PM
Post by: cc on April 04, 2020, 08:49:33 PM
Gotta love thisQuote from: "cc"
"China has been appointed to a panel on the controversial U.N. Human Rights Council, where it will help vet candidates for important posts — despite its decades-long record of systematic human rights abuse that the U.S. has said fueled the coronavirus pandemic."https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/un-slammed-absurd-immoral-appointing-china-key-un-human-rights-panel
This reminds me of Iran being appointed to some UN council that addressed women's rights.
Yes, I remember that. UN is a joke ... a very very bad and in fact bad joke .. pure raw EVIL
By the way - I'm optimistic that we will come out of this strong .. different in good ways, but strong
At least I know the US will. I hope useless Justine will take cues from the US so we can become strong again
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Post by: cc on April 04, 2020, 09:00:57 PM
Post by: cc on April 04, 2020, 09:00:57 PM
"Allowing China's oppressive and inhumane regime to choose the world investigators on freedom of speech, arbitrary detention and enforced disappearances is like making a pyromaniac into the town fire chief," UN Watch said in a statement, according to FOX.
The Human Rights Council, itself long subject of controversy - especially after the Saudis recently occupied a top spot on the bloc - examines freedom of speech, war crimes, and disappeared persons issues around the world.
The central irony is that China - itself long documented to have an extensive 'political prison' system and with more recent charges of "disappearing" doctors and scientists who have tried to blow the whistle over its COVID-19 response - will now have a key role in selecting the top human rights body's make-up.
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Anonymous on April 04, 2020, 09:02:36 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 04, 2020, 09:02:36 PM
China seem to be recovering nicely and coming out at the top. The west will struggle. China have the last laugh and wants to lead the world. China will help other countries and be looked at as the hero.Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
A hero for what? Deliberately attacking the world with a bioweapon.
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: cc on April 04, 2020, 10:37:29 PM
Post by: cc on April 04, 2020, 10:37:29 PM
Several EU counties just sent back shipments of defective masks
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Post by: Anonymous on April 04, 2020, 10:57:52 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 04, 2020, 10:57:52 PM
I guess he means the propaganda supplies .. some of which is believed as sincereQuote from: "cc"
Several EU counties just sent back shipments of defective masks
I wouldn't put anything on my face that came from China. Especially, the butt cheeks of the tin chink.
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Post by: cc on April 04, 2020, 10:58:44 PM
Post by: cc on April 04, 2020, 10:58:44 PM
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Anonymous on April 05, 2020, 11:43:16 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 05, 2020, 11:43:16 AM
Gotta love thisQuote from: "cc"
"China has been appointed to a panel on the controversial U.N. Human Rights Council, where it will help vet candidates for important posts — despite its decades-long record of systematic human rights abuse that the U.S. has said fueled the coronavirus pandemic."https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/un-slammed-absurd-immoral-appointing-china-key-un-human-rights-panel
What a joke.
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Post by: Anonymous on April 05, 2020, 12:36:21 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 05, 2020, 12:36:21 PM
Title: Re: We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Anonymous on April 15, 2020, 08:36:19 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 15, 2020, 08:36:19 PM
We believe the organization's director-general, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, like China's Xi Jinping, should be held accountable for recklessly managing this deadly pandemic. Tedros apparently turned a blind eye to what happened in Wuhan and the rest of China and, after meeting with Xi in January, has helped China to play down the severity, prevalence and scope of the COVID-19 outbreak.
From the outset, Tedros has defended China despite its gross mismanagement of the highly contagious disease. As the number of cases and the death toll soared, the WHO took months to declare the COVID-19 outbreak as a pandemic, even though it had met the criteria of transmission between people, high fatality rates and worldwide spread.
When President Trump took a critical step to stop the coronavirus at U.S. borders by issuing a travel ban as early as Jan. 31, Tedros said widespread travel bans and restrictions were not needed to stop the outbreak and could "have the effect of increasing fear and stigma, with little public health benefit." He warned that interfering with transportation and trade could harm efforts to address the crisis, and advised other countries not to follow the U.S. lead.
When he should have been focusing on global counter-pandemic efforts, Tedros instead was politicizing the crisis and helping Xi to shirk his responsibility for a series of wrongdoings in addressing the outbreak. Tedros used the WHO platform to defend the Chinese government's gross violation of human rights. For example, from its first case discovered in November to its Wuhan lockdown, and even until today, China has been dishonest about the coronavirus's origin and prevalence. People who tried to uncover it were detained or disappeared, their online reports and posts deleted. China has misinformed and misled the world, and Tedros joined this effort by publicly praising China's "transparency" in battling the spread of the disease.
China recently pledged $20 million to help the WHO fight the COVID-19 outbreak, for which Tedros thanked Xi. But we note China's connections to Tedros's homeland of Ethiopia, now called East Africa's "Little China" because it has become China's bridgehead to influence Africa and a key to China's Belt and Road initiative there. Indeed, China has invested heavily in Ethiopia.
Tedros was elected to his position with the WHO in 2017, despite the fact that he was not trained as a medical doctor and had no global health management experience. A former minister of health and minister of foreign affairs for Ethiopia, Tedros is an executive member of the Tigray People's Liberation Front (TPLF) political party, which came to power through a struggle in 1991 and has been listed as a perpetrator in the Global Terrorism Database. After he became the WHO's chief, critics questioned Tedros's attempt to appoint then-Zimbabwe dictator Robert Mugabe as a WHO goodwill ambassador.
The coronavirus pandemic has shown that Tedros is not fit to lead the WHO. Because of his leadership, the world may have missed a critical window to halt the pandemic or mitigate its virulence. The world is now battling rising infections and many countries have imposed restrictions. As leader of the WHO, Tedros should be held accountable for his role in mismanaging efforts to control the spread of the virus.
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Post by: cc on April 20, 2020, 12:20:57 PM
Post by: cc on April 20, 2020, 12:20:57 PM
Australia on Sunday called for an "independent international" investigation into China's management of the coronavirus outbreak and the origin of the pandemic, joining the U.S. in scrutinizing China's role.
Australia's Foreign Minister Marise Payne has doubled down on similar calls by President Trump, questioning the Chinese Communist Party's truthfulness, and saying that Australia "will absolutely insist" on an international investigation.
Payne, over the weekend, added that her concern about China's transparency was "at a very high point."
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Post by: cc on April 20, 2020, 12:44:27 PM
Post by: cc on April 20, 2020, 12:44:27 PM
More than 80 per cent of Britons want Boris Johnson to push for an international inquiry into China's handling of the initial coronavirus outbreak, according to a poll.
The survey also revealed that 71 per cent of the public wanted ministers to sue the Chinese government for damages if it became evident that President Xi's administration had breached international law in its response to the coronavirus.
The poll, commissioned last week by the Henry Jackson Society, a British neoconservative foreign affairs think tank, showed that 74 per cent of the UK public thought that China was to blame for allowing Covid-19 to spread.
Last week Downing Street for the first time explicitly named China as the source of the virus. Dominic Raab, the foreign secretary,
In a Canadian poll 100% of Justin Trudeau will call you a racist for suggesting that.
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Post by: Anonymous on April 20, 2020, 08:32:45 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 20, 2020, 08:32:45 PM
Britons want China to face inquiry over coronavirus outbreak(//https)
More than 80 per cent of Britons want Boris Johnson to push for an international inquiry into China's handling of the initial coronavirus outbreak, according to a poll.
The survey also revealed that 71 per cent of the public wanted ministers to sue the Chinese government for damages if it became evident that President Xi's administration had breached international law in its response to the coronavirus.
The poll, commissioned last week by the Henry Jackson Society, a British neoconservative foreign affairs think tank, showed that 74 per cent of the UK public thought that China was to blame for allowing Covid-19 to spread.
Last week Downing Street for the first time explicitly named China as the source of the virus. Dominic Raab, the foreign secretary,
In a Canadian poll 100% of Justin Trudeau will call you a racist for suggesting that.:wink:
We won't be part of any international inquiry.
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Post by: cc on April 20, 2020, 09:50:00 PM
Post by: cc on April 20, 2020, 09:50:00 PM
Reichelt added]
Germany's leadership called on Monday for China to be transparent.
"I believe the more transparent China is about the origin story of the virus, the better it is for everyone in the world in order to learn from it," German Chancellor Angela Merkel said, according to a report by Channel News Asia.
China, where the pandemic began, has lifted travel and other restrictions, but customer traffic has been slow to return.
Xi warned the public on Jan. 20; officials privately established on Jan. 14 the virus had evolved into a pandemic, the Associated Press reported.
Fox News has reported that sources are saying there's increasing confidence that the coronavirus pandemic began in a Wuhan, China, laboratory as part of the Communist country's efforts to compete with the United States.
The German newspapers had best back off President Xi, after all,
See Liberals and Democrats, even Germany gets it.
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Post by: Anonymous on April 20, 2020, 10:44:29 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 20, 2020, 10:44:29 PM
Title: Re: WORLD REACTS!!! - We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: cc on April 20, 2020, 10:56:09 PM
Post by: cc on April 20, 2020, 10:56:09 PM
Interesting - Meanwhile, the French foreign ministry has summoned the Chinese ambassador to France over an article that "slanders" staff of French nursing homes.
Here, the deadliest problems in our nursing homes is proven to be BY FAR those Chinese owned - Why would our Govt allow that? Allowing China to own them is evil
It does appear Bild went after China strongly - instigating a back and forth
Bild has a record of tackling China hard
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Post by: Anonymous on April 20, 2020, 11:12:11 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 20, 2020, 11:12:11 PM
But, I thought it was written in a not serious manner.
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Post by: cc on April 20, 2020, 11:22:24 PM
Post by: cc on April 20, 2020, 11:22:24 PM
Title: Re: WORLD REACTS!!! We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Anonymous on April 20, 2020, 11:39:38 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 20, 2020, 11:39:38 PM
Not non-entity Canada, but others will do right .. OZ, US, UK are already on record .. now GermanyQuote from: "cc"China, Germany's Bild in war of words after newspaper scorched Xi over coronavirus(//https) "You [Xi], your government and your scientists had to know long ago that coronavirus is highly infectious, but you left the world in the dark about it. Your top experts didn't respond when Western researchers asked to know what was going on in Wuhan. You were too proud and too nationalistic to tell the truth, which you felt was a national disgrace," wrote Julian Reichelt, editor-in-chief of Germany's largest paper, Bild, which had questioned if China "should pay for the massive economic damage the coronavirus is inflicting worldwide."
Reichelt added]
Germany's leadership called on Monday for China to be transparent.
"I believe the more transparent China is about the origin story of the virus, the better it is for everyone in the world in order to learn from it," German Chancellor Angela Merkel said, according to a report by Channel News Asia.
China, where the pandemic began, has lifted travel and other restrictions, but customer traffic has been slow to return.
Xi warned the public on Jan. 20; officials privately established on Jan. 14 the virus had evolved into a pandemic, the Associated Press reported.China knew severity of COVID-19 but delayed critical responses, new evidence shows
Fox News has reported that sources are saying there's increasing confidence that the coronavirus pandemic began in a Wuhan, China, laboratory as part of the Communist country's efforts to compete with the United States.
The German newspapers had best back off President Xi, after all,he has bought every Democrat politician and the main stream media in the United States. This is China's CCP Coronavirus and that belong's solely to Xi and he alone.
See Liberals and Democrats, even Germany gets it.] Thot RED was appropriate color to use:wink:
Does anyone seriously believe there will be compensation from China.
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Post by: cc on April 21, 2020, 12:05:07 AM
Post by: cc on April 21, 2020, 12:05:07 AM
It's like cursing China. Does no tangible good, but humans feel, eh?
I hope China ends up getting shamed badly - will take several countries with balls and determination .. does seem to be building despite having to deal 24/7 with virus
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Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 12:16:26 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 12:16:26 AM
No. But the principle matters to someQuote from: "cc"
It's like cursing China. Does no tangible good, but humans feel, eh?
I hope China ends up getting shamed badly - will take several countries with balls and determination .. does seem to be building despite having to deal 24/7 with virus
I favour an international inquiry.
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Post by: cc on April 21, 2020, 12:18:26 AM
Post by: cc on April 21, 2020, 12:18:26 AM
That said, people feel what they feel. Personally, I'm furious inside when I think about what China did .. would kill if I got near a perp in this thing
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Post by: Berry Sweet on April 21, 2020, 01:15:56 AM
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 21, 2020, 01:15:56 AM
Does anyone seriously believe there will be compensation from China.
Hell no.
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Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 09:59:33 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 09:59:33 AM
No. But the principle matters to someQuote from: "cc"
It's like cursing China. Does no tangible good, but humans feel, eh?
I hope China ends up getting shamed badly - will take several countries with balls and determination .. does seem to be building despite having to deal 24/7 with virus
I favour an international inquiry.
So, do I.
Title: Re: WORLD REACTS!!! - We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Anonymous on April 22, 2020, 10:01:22 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 22, 2020, 10:01:22 AM
Donald Trump did the right thing when he cut off funding to the WHO. He'd seen enough of the corruption. But what about Canada?
Our Chief Public Health Officer, Dr. Theresa Tam, has continually cited the WHO as an authority. Dr. Tam said face masks don't work. Not true. She said closing the borders to travelers arriving from virus hotspots wouldn't work. Not true. She spent the month of January echoing the WHO's contention that anyone worried about the virus was indulging in racism.
Canada needed a Chief Public Health Officer who would investigate all the pertinent information and then recommend policies to protect Canadians.
But instead we got Dr. Tam, who dutifully repeats the propaganda of a CCP government obsessed with political control and saving face. She does this because she is involved with an organization, the WHO, which is effectively controlled by that government.
Dr. Tam must now either resign or be fired.
Canada's Chief Public Health Officer needs to work for Canada. Not for the WHO or any other foreign entity.
Title: Re: WORLD REACTS!!! - We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2020, 11:49:36 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2020, 11:49:36 PM
U.S. intelligence officials believe that agents of the Chinese government helped boost fake claims through social media and text messages in March aimed at stoking panic over nationwide lockdowns over the coronavirus pandemic, according to a report from The New York Times.
The newspaper cited six intelligence officials all in different agencies who said that Chinese agents helped spread messages claiming that the Trump administration was planning to impose curfews, and would deploy troops to prevent widespread looting and rioting.
The messages, which circulated widely in mid-March, included vague claims of draconian nationwide lockdowns citing sources from the Pentagon, National Security Council or FBI. Some urged recipients to take money out of their bank accounts and fill up on gas ahead of the purported lockdowns.
"They will announce this as soon as they have troops in place to help prevent looters and rioters," reads one message cited by TheNYT. "He said he got the call last night and was told to pack and be prepared for the call today with his dispatch orders."
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Post by: cc on April 23, 2020, 11:52:50 PM
Post by: cc on April 23, 2020, 11:52:50 PM
Title: Re: WORLD REACTS!!! - We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Anonymous on April 24, 2020, 09:15:38 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 24, 2020, 09:15:38 AM
US Intelligence Says Chinese Agents Spread Texts To Stoke Coronavirus PanicQuote from: "Herman"https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/22/chinese-fake-coronavirus-texts/?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2360&pnespid=juxrr6kDGlCNcCEjKTInQUVa_zKrwbErdM1tQy60
U.S. intelligence officials believe that agents of the Chinese government helped boost fake claims through social media and text messages in March aimed at stoking panic over nationwide lockdowns over the coronavirus pandemic, according to a report from The New York Times.
The newspaper cited six intelligence officials all in different agencies who said that Chinese agents helped spread messages claiming that the Trump administration was planning to impose curfews, and would deploy troops to prevent widespread looting and rioting.
The messages, which circulated widely in mid-March, included vague claims of draconian nationwide lockdowns citing sources from the Pentagon, National Security Council or FBI. Some urged recipients to take money out of their bank accounts and fill up on gas ahead of the purported lockdowns.
"They will announce this as soon as they have troops in place to help prevent looters and rioters," reads one message cited by TheNYT. "He said he got the call last night and was told to pack and be prepared for the call today with his dispatch orders."
And the West worries about a mouse like Russia while ignoring the eight hundred pound gorilla in the room.
Title: Re: WORLD REACTS!!! - We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Anonymous on April 24, 2020, 12:05:37 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 24, 2020, 12:05:37 PM
US Intelligence Says Chinese Agents Spread Texts To Stoke Coronavirus PanicQuote from: "Herman"https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/22/chinese-fake-coronavirus-texts/?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2360&pnespid=juxrr6kDGlCNcCEjKTInQUVa_zKrwbErdM1tQy60
U.S. intelligence officials believe that agents of the Chinese government helped boost fake claims through social media and text messages in March aimed at stoking panic over nationwide lockdowns over the coronavirus pandemic, according to a report from The New York Times.
The newspaper cited six intelligence officials all in different agencies who said that Chinese agents helped spread messages claiming that the Trump administration was planning to impose curfews, and would deploy troops to prevent widespread looting and rioting.
The messages, which circulated widely in mid-March, included vague claims of draconian nationwide lockdowns citing sources from the Pentagon, National Security Council or FBI. Some urged recipients to take money out of their bank accounts and fill up on gas ahead of the purported lockdowns.
"They will announce this as soon as they have troops in place to help prevent looters and rioters," reads one message cited by TheNYT. "He said he got the call last night and was told to pack and be prepared for the call today with his dispatch orders."
No surprise at all.
Title: Re: WORLD REACTS!!! - We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: cc on April 26, 2020, 03:49:40 PM
Post by: cc on April 26, 2020, 03:49:40 PM
it was a "scandal" that the United States has trained some Chinese nationals to "go back to China to compete for our jobs, to take our business, and ultimately to steal our property and design weapons and other devices that can be used against the American people."
Cotton, who has vowed that China will "pay" for what he has called its deliberate choice to unleash the coronavirus on the world, went on to say that the U.S. should take a "hard look at the visas" awarded to Chinese nationals.
"If Chinese students want to come here and study Shakespeare and the Federalist Papers, that's what they need to learn from America," Cotton said. "They don't need to learn quantum computing and artificial intelligence from America."
Left-wing commenators quickly accused Cotton of racism, and noted that Shakespeare was not an American.
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"It was pretty well documented by Chinese scientists that it did not originate in the food market," Cotton said Sunday. "But wherever it originated, we know that the Chinese Communist Party was both criminally negligent and incompetent at first and then deliberately, deliberately malevolent in the way they responded to this virus for their own people and the world as early as the second week of December."
He added: "I believe that was a deliberate and conscious choice by the Chinese communist leadership because they did not want to see their relative power and standing in the world decline because this virus was contained within China. If we're going to suffer an economic contraction, they were not going to allow the world to continue to prosper and China be the only country whose economy was declining. They might see an absolute decline in their economy, but they refuse to see a relative decline, especially relative to the United States."
According to The Associated Press, internal Chinese documents show that government officials acknowledged likely human-to-human transmission of coronavirus, and said they were following orders from the president of China to keep it under wraps.
Title: Re: WORLD REACTS!!! - We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: cc on April 26, 2020, 04:18:49 PM
Post by: cc on April 26, 2020, 04:18:49 PM
I believe the Chinese Communist leaders, when they were aware of those facts by mid-January,
- made the conscious decision not to explain to the world that it [the coronavirus] was transmissible between humans,
- not to shut down travel,
- not to ask for American or other kind international scientific help,
- but to allow this virus to escape its borders.
Because if they were going to suffer an economic contraction, they were not going to allow the world to prosper and China be the only country whose economy was declining.""
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Post by: Anonymous on April 26, 2020, 04:55:49 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 26, 2020, 04:55:49 PM
Cotton >Quote from: "cc""If China Was "Going to Suffer an Economic Contraction ([sic]which was happening thanks to T's getting tough on it) , They Were Not Going to Allow the World to Prosper
I believe the Chinese Communist leaders, when they were aware of those facts by mid-January,
- made the conscious decision not to explain to the world that it [the coronavirus] was transmissible between humans,
- not to shut down travel,
- not to ask for American or other kind international scientific help,
- but to allow this virus to escape its borders.
Because if they were going to suffer an economic contraction, they were not going to allow the world to prosper and China be the only country whose economy was declining.""[Considering that, we can also blame the world's virus on Trump]
Western leaders like Boris Johnson and Donald Trump are in the way of Peking's ambitions..
They don't respect Justin Trudeau or Joe Biden even though they are both ambassadors for China.
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Post by: cc on April 26, 2020, 07:27:22 PM
Post by: cc on April 26, 2020, 07:27:22 PM
Having always been a trade protectionist at heart (make deals with individual countries as fit the circumstances is fine .. but not as a group and not without tariffs where one country has a natural price advantage), I find it unimaginable that free trade with China in the equation every came to be.
It was so easy to envision the result. China would get rich, others would get poorer .. It's a DUH .. and there could have been no other outcome
Then came successful attempts to level the playing field and China saw income falling
And of course it was the pressure applied to straighten out the HUGE trade imbalance that caused China to unleash havoc upon the West
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Post by: Anonymous on April 26, 2020, 08:58:26 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 26, 2020, 08:58:26 PM
Title: Re: WORLD REACTS!!! - We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 01:28:23 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 01:28:23 AM
A Communist Party of China spokesman sparked backlash after he said in a tweet Saturday that "some people" should be "injected" with disinfectant "or at least gargle with it" so "they won't spread the virus, lies and hatred when talking."
"Mr. President is right. Some people do need to be injected with #disinfectant, or at least gargle with it. That way they won't spread the virus, lies and hatred when talking," Hu Zhaoming wrote on Twitter. To Die': Chinese Official's Tweet About Gargling Disinfectant Sparks Backlash
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Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 01:36:19 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 01:36:19 AM
The European Union caved into pressure from the Chinese government regarding a report on disinformation related to the coronavirus pandemic, news reports show.
According to news reports, the EU removed language from a report that criticized Beijing over a 'global disinformation' campaign to deflect blame for the early response to the pandemic.
EU analysts circulated emails saying that the Chinese government was 'very angry' with the language in a draft of the report. Another accused the EU of 'self-censoring' to appease the communist regime.
The Chinese government successfully pressured European Union officials to water down language in a report that cited the communist regime's disinformation campaign regarding the coronavirus pandemic, according to news reports.
Chinese diplomats reached out to the EU earlier this week after learning through a Politico story about the imminent release a report noting Beijing's disinformation efforts, according to Reuters.
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Post by: cc on April 27, 2020, 02:42:08 AM
Post by: cc on April 27, 2020, 02:42:08 AM
The Chinese government successfully pressured European Union officials to water down language in a report that cited the communist regime's disinformation campaign regarding the coronavirus pandemic, according to news reports.Quote
EU analysts circulated emails saying that the Chinese government was 'very angry' with the language in a draft of the report.
They are not people. They are gutless slaves ...... "leaders" .. being slaves to killers of their own people
How low can you go?
Another accused the EU of 'self-censoring' to appease the communist regime.Quote
At least one was strong and called it as it was
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Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 02:44:06 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 02:44:06 AM
EU analysts circulated emails saying that the Chinese government was 'very angry' with the language in a draft of the report.Quote
They are not people. They are gutless slaves ...... "leaders" .. being slaves to killers of their own people
How low can you go?Another accused the EU of 'self-censoring' to appease the communist regime.Quote
At least one was strong and called it as it was
And that would be BoJo.
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Post by: cc on April 27, 2020, 03:05:46 AM
Post by: cc on April 27, 2020, 03:05:46 AM
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Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 03:10:14 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 03:10:14 AM
I bet you are correctQuote from: "cc"
I like that guy. I don't really like the Brit Tory party, but I like Bo Jo.
Title: Re: WORLD REACTS!!! - We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: cc on April 27, 2020, 03:15:04 AM
Post by: cc on April 27, 2020, 03:15:04 AM
BoJo seems a bit wired at first, but I also have grown to respect him .. He's true blue, the real deal and gutsy
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Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 11:45:43 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 11:45:43 AM
His predecessor was a lame dork ... (No, I didn't mean to say "duck")Quote from: "cc"
BoJo seems a bit wired at first, but I also have grown to respect him .. He's true blue, the real deal and gutsy
Margaret Thatcher opened the British Tory party tent to include non blue bloods. Johnson opened the tent again and the result was traditional Labour voters gave him a solid majority.
Title: Re: WORLD REACTS!!! - We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: cc on April 27, 2020, 11:48:40 AM
Post by: cc on April 27, 2020, 11:48:40 AM
Title: Re: WORLD REACTS!!! - We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 12:27:43 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 12:27:43 PM
They are the only good ones in a very long time .. Cameron was a total slug and set his party and his country backQuote from: "cc"
Cameron wanted the party to be Labour lite.
Title: Re: WORLD REACTS!!! - We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: cc on April 27, 2020, 12:57:31 PM
Post by: cc on April 27, 2020, 12:57:31 PM
He would say something over the top extremely conservative one day and a week later say something totally opposite .. always trying to have it both ways and falling on his face. That self-serving behavior hurt the country
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Post by: Anonymous on April 30, 2020, 02:53:11 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 30, 2020, 02:53:11 PM
Title: Re: WORLD REACTS!!! - We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: cc on April 30, 2020, 03:21:15 PM
Post by: cc on April 30, 2020, 03:21:15 PM
Title: Re: WORLD REACTS!!! - We Are in This Crisis ONLY because of the Self-Serving Decisions of the Chinese Government
Post by: Anonymous on April 30, 2020, 03:34:13 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 30, 2020, 03:34:13 PM
I read part of an op-ed on CBC about whether The WHO mishandled the COVID pandemic. I stopped after two paragraphs. One would think Tedros Adhanom wrote it.Quote from: "seoulbro"
The CBC is putting out even more fake news than before the pandemic.
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Post by: Anonymous on May 01, 2020, 11:06:14 AM
Post by: Anonymous on May 01, 2020, 11:06:14 AM
President Donald Trump said during a press conference Thursday that he has seen information indicating with a high degree of confidence that the novel coronavirus originated from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
"Have you seen anything at this point that gives you a high degree of confidence that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was the origin of the virus?" Fox News reporter John Roberts asked Trump.
"Yes, I have," Trump responded. "And I think the World Health Organization should be ashamed of themselves because they're like the public relations agency for China."
Trump said he couldn't share what exactly gives him a high degree of confidence that the virus originated from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
"I can't tell you that," he said. "I'm not allowed to tell you that."
However, later in the same press conference Trump acknowledged that there are "a lot of theories" on the origins of the coronavirus, which has infected 3.2 million people worldwide and killed 233,000.
"We have people looking at it very, very strongly," Trump said. "I think we're going to have a very good answer, eventually. And China might even tell us. China may tell us."
Trump's comments came hours after the Office of the Director of National Intelligence confirmed in a statement Thursday that it is rigorously examining new information and intelligence to "determine whether the outbreak began through contact with infected animals or if it was the result of an accident at a laboratory in Wuhan."
The ODNI also said it agrees with the widespread scientific consensus that the novel coronavirus "was not manmade or genetically modified," a blow to the conspiracy theory that the virus could be a Chinese-manufactured bioweapon.
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Post by: Anonymous on May 01, 2020, 11:53:27 AM
Post by: Anonymous on May 01, 2020, 11:53:27 AM
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Post by: Anonymous on May 26, 2020, 11:37:03 AM
Post by: Anonymous on May 26, 2020, 11:37:03 AM