States of emergency, mass unemployment, pension money wiped out. We are screwed.
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It's almost guaranteed my husband will lose his job..
He can't even do residential electrical work because nobody wants people in their homes.
Jesus.
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Biggie, I'm scared..
Our mortgage is paid off, but we still have a lot of bills.
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It's almost guaranteed my husband will lose his job..
He can't even do residential electrical work because nobody wants people in their homes.
I am really sorry about that Fash.
The Canadian dollar is worth sixty eight cents US.
:shock:
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Biggie, I'm scared..
Our mortgage is paid off, but we still have a lot of bills.
I hear you. Wish I could tell you everything is going to be ok but I just don't know. I would say just conserve your on hand cash for anything that is absolutely essential. Light, gas, food, etc. Ditch credit card payments and any other unsecured loans. They'll probably be forced to go on some type of deferred payment plan anyways if your government has any decency left
I just started a mortgage on a property purchased at nearly half a million. And I just lost over a quarter of a million so I understand the fear factor. I
Only saving grace is that I'm big on cash so I have a little over 50K in a safe deposit box for times like these. I've estimated about 20 months of no income will land me on a street corner holding a cup. Everything else is tied up in investments and too far in the red to pull the trigger now and were it not for the daily margin calls chewing into my holdings I'd stay put and hope the storm passes.
I've been saving since I entered the work force, so has my husband..
But, most of our money is in RRSP's which I believe is like IRA's in the USA.
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Biggie, I'm scared..
Our mortgage is paid off, but we still have a lot of bills.
I hear you. Wish I could tell you everything is going to be ok but I just don't know. I would say just conserve your on hand cash for anything that is absolutely essential. Light, gas, food, etc. Ditch credit card payments and any other unsecured loans. They'll probably be forced to go on some type of deferred payment plan anyways if your government has any decency left
I just started a mortgage on a property purchased at nearly half a million. And I just lost over a quarter of a million so I understand the fear factor. I
Only saving grace is that I'm big on cash so I have a little over 50K in a safe deposit box for times like these. I've estimated about 20 months of no income will land me on a street corner holding a cup. Everything else is tied up in investments and too far in the red to pull the trigger now and were it not for the daily margin calls chewing into my holdings I'd stay put and hope the storm passes.
I know when a person's poor, America is a much tougher place to be than Canada.
They're really on their own in the States.
Government doesn't take care of them.
So having enough cash to survive the lean times is more important in America than Canada.
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Biggie, I'm scared..
Our mortgage is paid off, but we still have a lot of bills.
I hear you. Wish I could tell you everything is going to be ok but I just don't know. I would say just conserve your on hand cash for anything that is absolutely essential. Light, gas, food, etc. Ditch credit card payments and any other unsecured loans. They'll probably be forced to go on some type of deferred payment plan anyways if your government has any decency left
I just started a mortgage on a property purchased at nearly half a million. And I just lost over a quarter of a million so I understand the fear factor. I
Only saving grace is that I'm big on cash so I have a little over 50K in a safe deposit box for times like these. I've estimated about 20 months of no income will land me on a street corner holding a cup. Everything else is tied up in investments and too far in the red to pull the trigger now and were it not for the daily margin calls chewing into my holdings I'd stay put and hope the storm passes.
I know when a person's poor, America is a much tougher place to be than Canada.
They're really on their own in the States.
Government doesn't take care of them.
So having enough cash to survive the lean times is more important in America than Canada.
I read the emergency measures taken in Ottawa and Washington..
What specifically is Ottawa doing to help the coming millions of destitute people across North America that you say Washington isn't?
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Biggie, I'm scared..
Our mortgage is paid off, but we still have a lot of bills.
I hear you. Wish I could tell you everything is going to be ok but I just don't know. I would say just conserve your on hand cash for anything that is absolutely essential. Light, gas, food, etc. Ditch credit card payments and any other unsecured loans. They'll probably be forced to go on some type of deferred payment plan anyways if your government has any decency left
I just started a mortgage on a property purchased at nearly half a million. And I just lost over a quarter of a million so I understand the fear factor. I
Only saving grace is that I'm big on cash so I have a little over 50K in a safe deposit box for times like these. I've estimated about 20 months of no income will land me on a street corner holding a cup. Everything else is tied up in investments and too far in the red to pull the trigger now and were it not for the daily margin calls chewing into my holdings I'd stay put and hope the storm passes.
I know when a person's poor, America is a much tougher place to be than Canada.
They're really on their own in the States.
Government doesn't take care of them.
So having enough cash to survive the lean times is more important in America than Canada.
I read the emergency measures taken in Ottawa and Washington..
What specifically is Ottawa doing to help the coming millions of destitute people across North America that you say Washington isn't?
Maybe Trudeau is buying inflatable women for Canada's virgin senor population.
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Biggie, I'm scared..
Our mortgage is paid off, but we still have a lot of bills.
I hear you. Wish I could tell you everything is going to be ok but I just don't know. I would say just conserve your on hand cash for anything that is absolutely essential. Light, gas, food, etc. Ditch credit card payments and any other unsecured loans. They'll probably be forced to go on some type of deferred payment plan anyways if your government has any decency left
I just started a mortgage on a property purchased at nearly half a million. And I just lost over a quarter of a million so I understand the fear factor. I
Only saving grace is that I'm big on cash so I have a little over 50K in a safe deposit box for times like these. I've estimated about 20 months of no income will land me on a street corner holding a cup. Everything else is tied up in investments and too far in the red to pull the trigger now and were it not for the daily margin calls chewing into my holdings I'd stay put and hope the storm passes.
I know when a person's poor, America is a much tougher place to be than Canada.
They're really on their own in the States.
Government doesn't take care of them.
So having enough cash to survive the lean times is more important in America than Canada.
I read the emergency measures taken in Ottawa and Washington..
What specifically is Ottawa doing to help the coming millions of destitute people across North America that you say Washington isn't?
Maybe Trudeau is buying inflatable women for Canada's virgin senor population.
Every developed country is proposing the same measures to stop the looming depression. It's not working though. You can't shut down the world and expect everything to be normal. There's nothing normal(or rational) about shutting down the global economy for a flu bug anyway.
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Biggie, I'm scared..
Our mortgage is paid off, but we still have a lot of bills.
I hear you. Wish I could tell you everything is going to be ok but I just don't know. I would say just conserve your on hand cash for anything that is absolutely essential. Light, gas, food, etc. Ditch credit card payments and any other unsecured loans. They'll probably be forced to go on some type of deferred payment plan anyways if your government has any decency left
I just started a mortgage on a property purchased at nearly half a million. And I just lost over a quarter of a million so I understand the fear factor. I
Only saving grace is that I'm big on cash so I have a little over 50K in a safe deposit box for times like these. I've estimated about 20 months of no income will land me on a street corner holding a cup. Everything else is tied up in investments and too far in the red to pull the trigger now and were it not for the daily margin calls chewing into my holdings I'd stay put and hope the storm passes.
I know when a person's poor, America is a much tougher place to be than Canada.
They're really on their own in the States.
Government doesn't take care of them.
So having enough cash to survive the lean times is more important in America than Canada.
I read the emergency measures taken in Ottawa and Washington..
What specifically is Ottawa doing to help the coming millions of destitute people across North America that you say Washington isn't?
Every developed country is proposing the same measures to stop the looming depression. It's not working though. You can't shut down the world and expect everything to be normal. There's nothing normal(or rational) about shutting down the global economy for a flu bug anyway.
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Then you can join Herman's western Canada session
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Biggie, I'm scared..
Our mortgage is paid off, but we still have a lot of bills.
I hear you. Wish I could tell you everything is going to be ok but I just don't know. I would say just conserve your on hand cash for anything that is absolutely essential. Light, gas, food, etc. Ditch credit card payments and any other unsecured loans. They'll probably be forced to go on some type of deferred payment plan anyways if your government has any decency left
I just started a mortgage on a property purchased at nearly half a million. And I just lost over a quarter of a million so I understand the fear factor. I
Only saving grace is that I'm big on cash so I have a little over 50K in a safe deposit box for times like these. I've estimated about 20 months of no income will land me on a street corner holding a cup. Everything else is tied up in investments and too far in the red to pull the trigger now and were it not for the daily margin calls chewing into my holdings I'd stay put and hope the storm passes.
I know when a person's poor, America is a much tougher place to be than Canada.
They're really on their own in the States.
Government doesn't take care of them.
So having enough cash to survive the lean times is more important in America than Canada.
I read the emergency measures taken in Ottawa and Washington..
What specifically is Ottawa doing to help the coming millions of destitute people across North America that you say Washington isn't?
Every developed country is proposing the same measures to stop the looming depression. It's not working though. You can't shut down the world and expect everything to be normal. There's nothing normal(or rational) about shutting down the global economy for a flu bug anyway.
Kinda what happened during the Great Depression, Shen.
The economy contracted by 35%. Unemployment went up to 25-30%.
The economy of the day appeared to 'shut down' for 3-4 years and didn't fully recover 10 years later til World War II or 1940.
So when the economy slides or contracts like that, it takes a long time to come back.
...and we're just the beginning of this (D)ecession (?)
A daily diary of this sliding economy will reveal the extent of the carnage which is to come.
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Biggie, I'm scared..
Our mortgage is paid off, but we still have a lot of bills.
I hear you. Wish I could tell you everything is going to be ok but I just don't know. I would say just conserve your on hand cash for anything that is absolutely essential. Light, gas, food, etc. Ditch credit card payments and any other unsecured loans. They'll probably be forced to go on some type of deferred payment plan anyways if your government has any decency left
I just started a mortgage on a property purchased at nearly half a million. And I just lost over a quarter of a million so I understand the fear factor. I
Only saving grace is that I'm big on cash so I have a little over 50K in a safe deposit box for times like these. I've estimated about 20 months of no income will land me on a street corner holding a cup. Everything else is tied up in investments and too far in the red to pull the trigger now and were it not for the daily margin calls chewing into my holdings I'd stay put and hope the storm passes.
I know when a person's poor, America is a much tougher place to be than Canada.
They're really on their own in the States.
Government doesn't take care of them.
So having enough cash to survive the lean times is more important in America than Canada.
I read the emergency measures taken in Ottawa and Washington..
What specifically is Ottawa doing to help the coming millions of destitute people across North America that you say Washington isn't?
Every developed country is proposing the same measures to stop the looming depression. It's not working though. You can't shut down the world and expect everything to be normal. There's nothing normal(or rational) about shutting down the global economy for a flu bug anyway.
In costa rica they're just throwing sand in the air like the savages they are.
What does their GDP look like? 2 cans of beer and a moldy plantain?
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I know when a person's poor, America is a much tougher place to be than Canada.
They're really on their own in the States.
Government doesn't take care of them.
So having enough cash to survive the lean times is more important in America than Canada.
Interesting, not sure what "States" you are talking about. Although I'm not sure why I am even responding to you J0E.
The waiting time for unemployment checks will be changed to a week, and the job search requirement is being waived (in Texas). Many companies that provided benefits are allowing employees to keep them even though they have reduced hours, and even some that took a lay off are allowed to keep benefits. It will be tough for a while and there will be some damage but I am confident things will come back. Oilfield will suffer regardless with the drop in prices, but that was going to happen anyway. That too, will come back.
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Then you can join Herman's western Canada session
huh?
Donald Trump is talking about a cash payment to all 330 million Americans. Justin Trudeau has allocated funds to provide up to fifteen weeks at up to $450 for people that have to be at home, but do not qualify for unemployment benefits. Canada and America are being very generous compared to Israel. But, it won't save the economy. It is only meant to blunt the effects of a worldwide depression that China caused.
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Australia is shafting any workforce member who is out of luck because of this crises... unless both parents are out of work, they're already on the dole, or they're new immigrants... even if one parent is a stay at home and only up to the child ages of 6-8 depending on income...
...so basically....reoccuring and cash payments for the those who desperately need it and many more who are preexisting bludgers, but nothing for people who've paid in all their lives and find themselves terminally unemployed... (until they lose everything and are out on the streets)
...assuming all 20 something mandatory inoculations to receive family benefits have been recorded in your children's medical history... if not, no payments at all and you'll eventually have your starving kids taken from you for "neglect"... :crazy:
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But, most of our money is in RRSP's which I believe is like IRA's in the USA.
So I hope you've learned your lesson, Fashionista.
Simply put - the Stock Market is not your Friend.
Having faith in it is the equivalent of worshipping a Gambling Casino:
https://youtu.be/MN1AtzLrW4Y
A stock market is not a chapel. It is essentially a glorified casino.
....Like the man says...
You gotta know when to hold ,em & when ta fold 'em.
Sure Joe. You are a sixty five year old virgin barely surviving on OAS and Fash will have a comfortable retirement independent of government handouts. It seems you never learned your lesson.
I know you are trying to justify why you never saved for your own retirement, but I have no regrets..
They have provided a return for my retirement..
My husband's company has matching RRSP contributions that will continue to go into low tow-medium risk mutual funds..
Remember, we won't be touching them for at least thirteen years.
I've decided to not respond to Joe at all. His motives are vile and attitude is rotten
And .. he knows little, has zero experience with money or politics ... just mouths off
Worse - He thrives on other's pain ... a rabid sicko
..
I know he's trolling..
Nobody believes not saving for one's own retirement is desirable.
It's not just that - it's everything and all the time on any issue ... He feels good when he thinks others have pain
He's going on my persona non grata list
So now China is saying they are virus free. I'm finding this hard to believe.
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oops - a deletion got me, lol
It was me cc..
I got logged out..
I can tell JOE is jealous of other people's success which is why he wants people to fail..
My husband and I don't think we've failed yet.
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me 2 .. . they are lying unless they found a cure and are keeping it secret
or maybe some of both
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They might be..
The coming economic collapse in the West is deliberate..
This is what China hoped to achieve.
exactly
It's scary cause this kinda stuff can start wars n shit :sad:
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China is at war with the West in general and the USA in particular..
It's undeclared, but it's still war.
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China is at war with the West in general and the USA in particular..
It's undeclared, but it's still war.
Seems like it. Such a stupid game.
Joe's retirement plan is to go to jail for stalking posters offline.
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so do i, fair berr.
Heck who knows what other diseases they have stashed away in the fridge.
The Communist leadership in China is downright evil
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China is at war with the West in general and the USA in particular..
It's undeclared, but it's still war.
Seems like it. Such a stupid game.
Unleashing bio-warfare on the world is not a game to China..
They knew exactly what they were doing and what the result would be around the world and the West in particular.
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It's almost guaranteed my husband will lose his job..
He can't even do residential electrical work because nobody wants people in their homes.
He aint losing it..
He is just gonna be laid off..
It's all quite frightening. I work for a developer that owns a number of commercial buildings (office, industrial, retail). Last week one of our buildings had a confirmed case of Covid 19. It had to be shut down and sanitized. (Now done on a daily basis for office where people still come into work).
The building I work in is a ghost town. It can house close 2300 people. Yesterday there were approximately 100 people there... most of whom are security, maintenance, cleaners, and skeleton staff from our company.
Fuck SARS-CoV-19!