http://www.autoblog.com/2013/09/30/land-rover-driver-caught-on-video-mowing-down-nyc-motorcyclists/
this incident has been being concerned in public in these days. especially on chinese forum,that,how we would do in that situation if surrounded by a group of motorcyclists,becomes a heat topic to discuss about. according to the video, it is conspicuous to see that the motorcyclists challenged the landrover driver at the first place. based on the reported details of this case,we tend to believe that the driver's wife and children in the car probably got threatened by the group. if u were the driver, how would u deal with this trouble?
I would have ran them over.
Thank you for posting that Jaysings..
I don't know how anyone could allow road rage to go that far?
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most people anwsered so. as the result came out, it is really not a good idea to get away in that way.
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most people anwsered so. as the result came out, it is really not a good idea to get away in that way.
Let's not pretend the SUV driver was totally blameless here Jay.
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Thank you for posting that Jaysings..
I don't know how anyone could allow road rage to go that far?
everybody seems tolerating these menacing motorcyclists on the road. they literally act as if they were supercilious over any drivers on the road, even drivers in a vehicle as solid as landrover
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Thank you for posting that Jaysings..
I don't know how anyone could allow road rage to go that far?
everybody seems tolerating these menacing motorcyclists on the road. they literally act as if they were supercilious over any drivers on the road, even drivers in a vehicle as solid as landrover
Again Jay, there are two sides to this story.
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most people anwsered so. as the result came out, it is really not a good idea to get away in that way.
Let's not pretend the SUV driver was totally blameless here Jay.
check the video clearly, one of the motorcyclists slowed down at the first place, and the suv driver probably hit his motorcycle in a mild way in order to warn him to make way for him. however, the motorcyclist gathered others to engulf the suv driver, and the tragedy happened.
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most people anwsered so. as the result came out, it is really not a good idea to get away in that way.
Let's not pretend the SUV driver was totally blameless here Jay.
check the video clearly, one of the motorcyclists slowed down at the first place, and the suv driver probably hit his motorcycle in a mild way in order to warn him to make way for him. however, the motorcyclist gathered others to engulf the suv driver, and the tragedy happened.
There is no such thing as "mild way" of hitting a motorcycle if you are in a Landrover. That could be potentially fatal. I am not excusing how the motorcyclists reacted, but what the driver of the SUV did was very, very provocative.
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Thank you for posting that Jaysings..
I don't know how anyone could allow road rage to go that far?
everybody seems tolerating these menacing motorcyclists on the road. they literally act as if they were supercilious over any drivers on the road, even drivers in a vehicle as solid as landrover
Again Jay, there are two sides to this story.
the motorcyclists blocked the way ahead of the suv driver and refused to make way for the suv. the suv horned those guys and warned them to make way for him. if they were conscious, they should have made way for others but not attempted to harass others.
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Let's not pretend the SUV driver was totally blameless here Jay.
check the video clearly, one of the motorcyclists slowed down at the first place, and the suv driver probably hit his motorcycle in a mild way in order to warn him to make way for him. however, the motorcyclist gathered others to engulf the suv driver, and the tragedy happened.
There is no such thing as "mild way" of hitting a motorcycle if you are in a Landrover. That could be potentially fatal. I am not excusing how the motorcyclists reacted, but what the driver of the SUV did was very, very provocative.
the only one thing the suv did wrong is that he didn't stop to call cops as soon as possible. even while escaping on the road, he didn't ask his wife to do so. instead of call cops, he kept driving ahead until he slightly hit the motorcycle,seemed warning the motorcyclist to fuxk off. although how the suv driver reacted is wrong, the motorcyclists shouldn't have blocked the way at the first place. they were sharing the road but not occupying the entire road for their party.
That gang was trolling the SUV driver.. They got what was coming to them.
It´s like one of those times where some1 delibaretly waits until the last second in traffic lights and makes the light go red again for the next driver.
The SUV driver panicked because he didn´t know why they were doing that.
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everybody seems tolerating these menacing motorcyclists on the road. they literally act as if they were supercilious over any drivers on the road, even drivers in a vehicle as solid as landrover
Again Jay, there are two sides to this story.
the motorcyclists blocked the way ahead of the suv driver and refused to make way for the suv. the suv horned those guys and warned them to make way for him. if they were conscious, they should have made way for others but not attempted to harass others.
It is right around the 50 second mark you see the SUV driver rolling over a motorcycle. However, I can't tell what was happening prior to that. Was the Landrover driver threatened? I don't know.
I would like to know what happened at the very end of the vid when the biker started smashing windows in on the SUV? Did they put the SUV driver in the hospital?
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Again Jay, there are two sides to this story.
the motorcyclists blocked the way ahead of the suv driver and refused to make way for the suv. the suv horned those guys and warned them to make way for him. if they were conscious, they should have made way for others but not attempted to harass others.
It is right around the 50 second mark you see the SUV driver rolling over a motorcycle. However, I can't tell what was happening prior to that. Was the Landrover driver threatened? I don't know.
I would like to know what happened at the very end of the vid when the biker started smashing windows in on the SUV? Did they put the SUV driver in the hospital?
of course they did. we can imagin the scenario from watching the end of the video and can know the result according to the recent report. how fierce they were in smashing the window with thier helmet when they eventually approached the suv.
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that's the reason why most people agree about running over all the motorcyclists if they were the suv driver
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that's the reason why most people agree about running over all the motorcyclists if they were the suv driver
I don't know Jay. I would have to know how it all started to say for sure the Landrover driver did or didn't over react.
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that's the reason why most people agree about running over all the motorcyclists if they were the suv driver
What would you do if HellsAngels suddenly surround your vehicle and try to slow it down?
Not the best time to be non-white.
http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/black-biker-gang-beats-suv-driver-in-nyc/
Those ran over bikers should have been killed.
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that's the reason why most people agree about running over all the motorcyclists if they were the suv driver
I don't know Jay. I would have to know how it all started to say for sure the Landrover driver did or didn't over react.
there might have had better way to deal with this situation, but the result demonstrated that what the suv driver did wasn't a better way
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that's the reason why most people agree about running over all the motorcyclists if they were the suv driver
What would you do if HellsAngels suddenly surround your vehicle and try to slow it down?
Not the best time to be non-white.
http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/black-biker-gang-beats-suv-driver-in-nyc/
Those ran over bikers should have been killed.
i don't think they will pick on me for no reason if i keep myself away from them at the first place.
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that's the reason why most people agree about running over all the motorcyclists if they were the suv driver
I don't know Jay. I would have to know how it all started to say for sure the Landrover driver did or didn't over react.
there might have had better way to deal with this situation, but the result demonstrated that what the suv driver did wasn't a better way
All I know Jaysings is that I would be terrified if I had've been the person in the suv..
I have no idea what I would have done in that situation.
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I don't know Jay. I would have to know how it all started to say for sure the Landrover driver did or didn't over react.
there might have had better way to deal with this situation, but the result demonstrated that what the suv driver did wasn't a better way
All I know Jaysings is that I would be terrified if I had've been the person in the suv..
I have no idea what I would have done in that situation.
If u were the person in suv, I bet that u would keep space between u and those crazy guys.
I heard that the suv driver is a chinese guy. maybe he is still conserving his " Chinese convention" such as horning and fearless of anyone on the road regarding to his iron relationship with someone empowered in police offices in china
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there might have had better way to deal with this situation, but the result demonstrated that what the suv driver did wasn't a better way
All I know Jaysings is that I would be terrified if I had've been the person in the suv..
I have no idea what I would have done in that situation.
If u were the person in suv, I bet that u would keep space between u and those crazy guys.
I heard that the suv driver is a chinese guy. maybe he is still conserving his " Chinese convention" such as horning and fearless of anyone on the road regarding to his iron relationship with someone empowered in police offices in china
That's what I am getting at Jay. We can't say with certainty that the driver of the SUV did NOT do anything to aggravate an already precarious situation.
I would need to see a video from their first contact to know for sure if there's a enough blame to go around.
The bikers were terrorizing the streets...
On the other hand maybe the "asians cannot drive" myth comes from their arrogant behaviour on the road thus making them a ticking timebomb on wheels... Can´t say I would have stayed calm.
Still pretty stupid to try to stop an SUV with a motorcycle.
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All I know Jaysings is that I would be terrified if I had've been the person in the suv..
I have no idea what I would have done in that situation.
If u were the person in suv, I bet that u would keep space between u and those crazy guys.
I heard that the suv driver is a chinese guy. maybe he is still conserving his " Chinese convention" such as horning and fearless of anyone on the road regarding to his iron relationship with someone empowered in police offices in china
That's what I am getting at Jay. We can't say with certainty that the driver of the SUV did NOT do anything to aggravate an already precarious situation.
I would need to see a video from their first contact to know for sure if there's a enough blame to go around.
I think so. I believe that the tragedy would have not happened otherwise if the suv didn't do anything offensive at all. after all fierce and menacing motorcyclists couldn't bear a slightly arrogant and peremptory behaviour from someone else.
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On the other hand maybe the "asians cannot drive" myth comes from their arrogant behaviour on the road thus making them a ticking timebomb on wheels... Can´t say I would have stayed calm.
Still pretty stupid to try to stop an SUV with a motorcycle.
they are audacious as what most of us will consider as stupid
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If u were the person in suv, I bet that u would keep space between u and those crazy guys.
I heard that the suv driver is a chinese guy. maybe he is still conserving his " Chinese convention" such as horning and fearless of anyone on the road regarding to his iron relationship with someone empowered in police offices in china
That's what I am getting at Jay. We can't say with certainty that the driver of the SUV did NOT do anything to aggravate an already precarious situation.
I would need to see a video from their first contact to know for sure if there's a enough blame to go around.
I think so. I believe that the tragedy would have not happened otherwise if the suv didn't do anything offensive at all. after all fierce and menacing motorcyclists couldn't bear a slightly arrogant and peremptory behaviour from someone else.
It may indeed be entirely the bikers fault. I just don't know for sure based solely on the video.
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That's what I am getting at Jay. We can't say with certainty that the driver of the SUV did NOT do anything to aggravate an already precarious situation.
I would need to see a video from their first contact to know for sure if there's a enough blame to go around.
I think so. I believe that the tragedy would have not happened otherwise if the suv didn't do anything offensive at all. after all fierce and menacing motorcyclists couldn't bear a slightly arrogant and peremptory behaviour from someone else.
It may indeed be entirely the bikers fault. I just don't know for sure based solely on the video.
we just know the suv driver got really hurt this time. although the suv driver made one of motorcyclists severely physically damaged on his leg, he was found innocent accounting for his clean criminal record, probably. anyway, unless his behaviour, he shouldn't have been beaten as severe as he got in spite of horning the insane motorcyclists
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I think so. I believe that the tragedy would have not happened otherwise if the suv didn't do anything offensive at all. after all fierce and menacing motorcyclists couldn't bear a slightly arrogant and peremptory behaviour from someone else.
It may indeed be entirely the bikers fault. I just don't know for sure based solely on the video.
we just know the suv driver got really hurt this time. although the suv driver made one of motorcyclists severely physically damaged on his leg, he was found innocent accounting for his clean criminal record, probably. anyway, unless his behaviour,
Jay, I didn't know that part. To be honest, I haven't really been following it. I will Google it later for details.
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It may indeed be entirely the bikers fault. I just don't know for sure based solely on the video.
we just know the suv driver got really hurt this time. although the suv driver made one of motorcyclists severely physically damaged on his leg, he was found innocent accounting for his clean criminal record, probably. anyway, unless his behaviour,
Jay, I didn't know that part. To be honest, I haven't really been following it. I will Google it later for details.
he got beaten all the shit out of him. the scenario was too crazy when i saw one of motorcyclists knocking fiercely on the window with his helmet. I could imagine how severe the suv driver's injuries are based on the last few seconds of the video
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we just know the suv driver got really hurt this time. although the suv driver made one of motorcyclists severely physically damaged on his leg, he was found innocent accounting for his clean criminal record, probably. anyway, unless his behaviour,
Jay, I didn't know that part. To be honest, I haven't really been following it. I will Google it later for details.
he got beaten all the shit out of him. the scenario was too crazy when i saw one of motorcyclists knocking fiercely on the window with his helmet. I could imagine how severe the suv driver's injuries are based on the last few seconds of the video
It didn't show it in the vid, but you knew when those bikers started smashing windows with their helmets the end result for that driver of the SUV was not going to be good.
Why didn´t the SUV driver just slam the gas?
Better run because the odds were slightly unequal even if the chinese had a firearm. Bikers are usually packing heat... Or atleast the angels and the bandidos are.
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Jay, I didn't know that part. To be honest, I haven't really been following it. I will Google it later for details.
he got beaten all the shit out of him. the scenario was too crazy when i saw one of motorcyclists knocking fiercely on the window with his helmet. I could imagine how severe the suv driver's injuries are based on the last few seconds of the video
It didn't show it in the vid, but you knew when those bikers started smashing windows with their helmets the end result for that driver of the SUV was not going to be good.
this typical scene is shown thousand times in movies or shows, and the occurrence often turns out to be violent. smashing up the window and then shaking hand with the suv driver only happens in comedic show.
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Better run because the odds were slightly unequal even if the chinese had a firearm. Bikers are usually packing heat... Or atleast the angels and the bandidos are.
many potential factors caused the suv driver failing to run
one of all, he was terrified, and his legs must be ceaselessly shaking. two of all, he couldn't leave his wife and child in the car. three of all, he was despair because he thought he was incapable to run faster than all of motorcyclists.
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Better run because the odds were slightly unequal even if the chinese had a firearm. Bikers are usually packing heat... Or atleast the angels and the bandidos are.
many potential factors caused the suv driver failing to run
one of all, he was terrified, and his legs must be ceaselessly shaking. two of all, he couldn't leave his wife and child in the car. three of all, he was despair because he thought he was incapable to run faster than all of motorcyclists.
I meant that he should have just speed away... Not jumping out of the car and running away leaving his family behind.. :lol:
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Better run because the odds were slightly unequal even if the chinese had a firearm. Bikers are usually packing heat... Or atleast the angels and the bandidos are.
many potential factors caused the suv driver failing to run
one of all, he was terrified, and his legs must be ceaselessly shaking. two of all, he couldn't leave his wife and child in the car. three of all, he was despair because he thought he was incapable to run faster than all of motorcyclists.
I meant that he should have just speed away... Not jumping out of the car and running away leaving his family behind.. :lol:
it is said that his tire got deflated by one of bikers while fleeing, and,unfortunately, he got blocked by a car ahead of him as well as getting cut off by the bikers. therefore, tragedy happened
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Better run because the odds were slightly unequal even if the chinese had a firearm. Bikers are usually packing heat... Or atleast the angels and the bandidos are.
many potential factors caused the suv driver failing to run
one of all, he was terrified, and his legs must be ceaselessly shaking. two of all, he couldn't leave his wife and child in the car. three of all, he was despair because he thought he was incapable to run faster than all of motorcyclists.
I meant that he should have just speed away... Not jumping out of the car and running away leaving his family behind.. :lol:
Did he really do that?
:o
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many potential factors caused the suv driver failing to run
one of all, he was terrified, and his legs must be ceaselessly shaking. two of all, he couldn't leave his wife and child in the car. three of all, he was despair because he thought he was incapable to run faster than all of motorcyclists.
I meant that he should have just speed away... Not jumping out of the car and running away leaving his family behind.. :lol:
Did he really do that?
:o
obviously no. if he did so, he wouldn't have beaten the shit out of him so badly.
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I meant that he should have just speed away... Not jumping out of the car and running away leaving his family behind.. :lol:
Did he really do that?
:o
obviously no. if he did so, he wouldn't have beaten the shit out of him so badly.
The video ended when the men on motorcycles were breaking his windows, so I couldn't tell what the poor man did.
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Did he really do that?
:o
obviously no. if he did so, he wouldn't have beaten the shit out of him so badly.
The video ended when the men on motorcycles were breaking his windows, so I couldn't tell what the poor man did.
he was hiding in the vehicle until the biker drew him out. he was panicking for sure, and he couldn't leave his wife and daughter in the car. misfortune fell on this poor guy, as poor as me :cry:
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obviously no. if he did so, he wouldn't have beaten the shit out of him so badly.
The video ended when the men on motorcycles were breaking his windows, so I couldn't tell what the poor man did.
he was hiding in the vehicle until the biker drew him out. he was panicking for sure, and he couldn't leave his wife and daughter in the car. misfortune fell on this poor guy, as poor as me :cry:
Your misfortune is only monetary..
That man was truly scared for his own life as well as that of his family.
This is why people should carry a firearm at all times...
That includes you too fash..
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That includes you too fash..
It is illegal to carry a gun in Canada, but even if it wasn't I would not want one.
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That includes you too fash..
It is illegal to carry a gun in Canada, but even if it wasn't I would not want one.
I could easily imagine you carrying a sawed pump-action shotgun under your trench-coat. ;)
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That includes you too fash..
It is illegal to carry a gun in Canada, but even if it wasn't I would not want one.
I could easily imagine you carrying a sawed pump-action shotgun under your trench-coat. ;)
Thanks, but no thanks.
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That includes you too fash..
maybe the person who gets the firearm will hurt much than in this incident
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That includes you too fash..
It is illegal to carry a gun in Canada, but even if it wasn't I would not want one.
carrying a gun in canada is illegal unless u are eligible to apply for the license of owning a gun