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Title: Trucking...
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2020, 05:39:46 AM
Many all of a sudden want to thank truckers for delivering your shit now...



I will explain something:  Work 100 hours per week, log 70 hours in the books (maximum), and get paid for 50.



No overtime, no Stat pay, NOTHING.



When I calculated my total hours for a produce haul from Mexico to Canada, when I was a company driver, I was earning less than minimum wage.



Something to think about.  There are ZERO non-union carriers in Canada that follow Labour Laws, and even a few unionized carriers that don't follow even the most minimal labour laws.



100/70/50, and if you question that, you're fucking fired for some paki that just got fast tracked in to replace you!
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2020, 08:01:20 AM
Quote from: "Mel"Many all of a sudden want to thank truckers for delivering your shit now...



I will explain something:  Work 100 hours per week, log 70 hours in the books (maximum), and get paid for 50.



No overtime, no Stat pay, NOTHING.



When I calculated my total hours for a produce haul from Mexico to Canada, when I was a company driver, I was earning less than minimum wage.



Something to think about.  There are ZERO non-union carriers in Canada that follow Labour Laws, and even a few unionized carriers that don't follow even the most minimal labour laws.



100/70/50, and if you question that, you're fucking fired for some paki that just got fast tracked in to replace you!

There's a man in our congregation that used to work as a long distance truck driver..



He said shorter runs pays better.
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2020, 12:07:48 PM
I'm sure you could make a lotta money delivering food from Vancouver to the Interior as your own private business, Mel & not driving for anyone.



Just find a supplier who is willing to work with you.



The one thing they don't got where you live now is a coastline hence no local seafood.



There must be a lotta people in the Interior who want it tho.



Anyways I understand why the wages would be shit.



The carrier probably charges their clients at least twice as much for your driving services as youre getting paid because the carrier has to make a profit.



Its like an engineering firm that bills out the service of its engineers at $100 per hour, but the engineer only makes $35 per hour & the profits go into the firm's pockets.
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2020, 12:17:59 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Mel"Many all of a sudden want to thank truckers for delivering your shit now...



I will explain something:  Work 100 hours per week, log 70 hours in the books (maximum), and get paid for 50.



No overtime, no Stat pay, NOTHING.



When I calculated my total hours for a produce haul from Mexico to Canada, when I was a company driver, I was earning less than minimum wage.



Something to think about.  There are ZERO non-union carriers in Canada that follow Labour Laws, and even a few unionized carriers that don't follow even the most minimal labour laws.



100/70/50, and if you question that, you're fucking fired for some paki that just got fast tracked in to replace you!

There's a man in our congregation that used to work as a long distance truck driver..



He said shorter runs pays better.


Thats the same in any driving, Fashionists.



For example I heard with the introduction of uber in Vancouver, there still aren't enough vehicles to service clients in the suburbs cuz they all headed downtown where the money is. They figger its better to do 10 short trips, burn less gas than do 1 long one which may use twice as much gas but earn 1/2 as much.



So the coming of uber here didn't solve anything & confirms what was previously thought by many.



There never was a taxi shortage in Vancouver. Just a shortage of drivers willing to pick up clients where the profit margin was low.



And just like trucking its the dame chatacters who've taken over uber as the trucking industry.



The Brown People from Surrey.



The Pakis & the East Indians.



The same shady tactics by the same shady people.
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: Zetsu on April 06, 2020, 01:52:11 PM
Quote from: "Guest"I'm sure you could make a lotta money delivering food from Vancouver to the Interior as your own private business, Mel & not driving for anyone.



Just find a supplier who is willing to work with you.



The one thing they don't got where you live now is a coastline hence no local seafood.



There must be a lotta people in the Interior who want it tho.



Anyways I understand why the wages would be shit.



The carrier probably charges their clients at least twice as much for your driving services as youre getting paid because the carrier has to make a profit.



Its like an engineering firm that bills out the service of its engineers at $100 per hour, but the engineer only makes $35 per hour & the profits go into the firm's pockets.


It's very obvious you've never hired anyone or run a medium size business before.
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: cc on April 06, 2020, 02:15:38 PM
LOL



JoJo is a know everything / know nothing



He really gave it away in that post - but will never get it
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: Zetsu on April 06, 2020, 03:06:00 PM
Quote from: "cc"LOL



JoJo is a know everything / know nothing



He really gave it away in that post - but will never get it


Yup, there are just too many idiots like Joe out there that fails to realized just how stupid they are, lol.



Given what he is only capable of, and if he has no choice but to start up his own business here in Canada, he'll be the first to be killed by ISO organizations warring against each other.
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2020, 04:48:56 PM
Joe has more time in this pandemic to derail discussions.
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: cc on April 06, 2020, 05:21:09 PM
I got a shot of him in DTES

 

Joe Btfsplk  .. I kid you not

 

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"Brings Gloom & Doom wherever he goes
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2020, 05:23:32 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Guest"I'm sure you could make a lotta money delivering food from Vancouver to the Interior as your own private business, Mel & not driving for anyone.



Just find a supplier who is willing to work with you.



The one thing they don't got where you live now is a coastline hence no local seafood.



There must be a lotta people in the Interior who want it tho.



Anyways I understand why the wages would be shit.



The carrier probably charges their clients at least twice as much for your driving services as youre getting paid because the carrier has to make a profit.



Its like an engineering firm that bills out the service of its engineers at $100 per hour, but the engineer only makes $35 per hour & the profits go into the firm's pockets.


It's very obvious you've never hired anyone or run a medium size business before.


No.

Thats a fact.



The emoloyee doesnt get paid an hourly wage that he or she is billed out at to a client.



If the worker makes $20 per hour, the firm will charge the client $40 per hour.



Because of course the company has to pay for other things including employee tax.



The company couldnt make a profit if it was charginh just the employees hourly wage.



Do you think the same arrangement doesnt work in trucking or limousining or bus transport?



The latter 2, the company bills the client $100 an hour and pays the driver $15 to $20 per hour.



Because other bills have to be paid such as gas, insurance, taxes, employee benefits, taxes, permit fees.



There has to be money left over for profit.



Again if the company only charged minimum like $20 to cover the drivers wage, theyd go broke.



Its as simple as that.



Challenge me on my assumptions if u think Im wrong.
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2020, 05:35:07 PM
Quote from: "cc"I got a shot of him in DTES

 

Joe Btfsplk  .. I kid you not

 

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"Brings Gloom & Doom wherever he goes

That's Joe alright.
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2020, 05:57:36 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Guest"I'm sure you could make a lotta money delivering food from Vancouver to the Interior as your own private business, Mel & not driving for anyone.



Just find a supplier who is willing to work with you.



The one thing they don't got where you live now is a coastline hence no local seafood.



There must be a lotta people in the Interior who want it tho.



Anyways I understand why the wages would be shit.



The carrier probably charges their clients at least twice as much for your driving services as youre getting paid because the carrier has to make a profit.



Its like an engineering firm that bills out the service of its engineers at $100 per hour, but the engineer only makes $35 per hour & the profits go into the firm's pockets.


It's very obvious you've never hired anyone or run a medium size business before.


No.

Thats a fact.



The emoloyee doesnt get paid an hourly wage that he or she is billed out at to a client.



If the worker makes $20 per hour, the firm will charge the client $40 per hour.



Because of course the company has to pay for other things including employee tax.



The company couldnt make a profit if it was charginh just the employees hourly wage.



Do you think the same arrangement doesnt work in trucking or limousining or bus transport?



The latter 2, the company bills the client $100 an hour and pays the driver $15 to $20 per hour.



Because other bills have to be paid such as gas, insurance, taxes, employee benefits, taxes, permit fees.



There has to be money left over for profit.



Again if the company only charged minimum like $20 to cover the drivers wage, theyd go broke.



Its as simple as that.



Challenge me on my assumptions if u think Im wrong.


You said profits, though still questionable and only applies if you're referring to NP, but saying it goes into their pockets contradicts with what you say.
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: cc on April 06, 2020, 06:02:45 PM
You know there's no logic  comprehension, right?
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2020, 06:10:33 PM
Quote from: "cc"You know there's no logic  comprehension, right?


I concur, and should have heed everyone's advise.  Joe is like a lame duck.
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2020, 06:21:02 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu1"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Guest"I'm sure you could make a lotta money delivering food from Vancouver to the Interior as your own private business, Mel & not driving for anyone.



Just find a supplier who is willing to work with you.



The one thing they don't got where you live now is a coastline hence no local seafood.



There must be a lotta people in the Interior who want it tho.



Anyways I understand why the wages would be shit.



The carrier probably charges their clients at least twice as much for your driving services as youre getting paid because the carrier has to make a profit.



Its like an engineering firm that bills out the service of its engineers at $100 per hour, but the engineer only makes $35 per hour & the profits go into the firm's pockets.


It's very obvious you've never hired anyone or run a medium size business before.


No.

Thats a fact.



The emoloyee doesnt get paid an hourly wage that he or she is billed out at to a client.



If the worker makes $20 per hour, the firm will charge the client $40 per hour.



Because of course the company has to pay for other things including employee tax.



The company couldnt make a profit if it was charginh just the employees hourly wage.



Do you think the same arrangement doesnt work in trucking or limousining or bus transport?



The latter 2, the company bills the client $100 an hour and pays the driver $15 to $20 per hour.



Because other bills have to be paid such as gas, insurance, taxes, employee benefits, taxes, permit fees.



There has to be money left over for profit.



Again if the company only charged minimum like $20 to cover the drivers wage, theyd go broke.



Its as simple as that.



Challenge me on my assumptions if u think Im wrong.


You said profits, though still questionable and only applies if you're referring to NP, but saying it goes into their pockets contradicts with what you say.


Pockets, shelf, bank...essentially the same thing.



The cream on top.



Otherwise how could any company be profitable & still continue to operate and stay in business?



Yes there has to be something in it for the business operator.



They have to pocket what they can and retain as much profit for themselves for the busibess to be viable.The employee has to be profitable for them so they can be retained by the company.



Why is that such a bad thing?



Or were you offended because I didn't use a euphimism or politically correct businessspeak terminology?
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: Vancouver on April 06, 2020, 07:11:26 PM
Very little public washroom right now. Tough time being a trucker.
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2020, 08:54:23 PM
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"Very little public washroom right now. Tough time being a trucker.

Piss on the back wheel, you'll be right.
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2020, 09:00:08 PM
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"Very little public washroom right now. Tough time being a trucker.

I read that drive thrus are allowing truckers to walk up.
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2020, 02:57:53 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
There's a man in our congregation that used to work as a long distance truck driver..



He said shorter runs pays better.

It would depend on the pay structure, as to which there are many variables...
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: Frood on April 07, 2020, 03:00:14 AM
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"Very little public washroom right now. Tough time being a trucker.


A little chemical portapotty and a few widemouthed plastic jugs and you're sorted...
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2020, 03:05:55 AM
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"Very little public washroom right now. Tough time being a trucker.

Pissing is never a problem...  We piss on our tires all the time!



Shitting gets more complex...



Parking near anything is tough in larger cities...  No room for a truck to park, and if there is, they don't want them there.  Bylaws prevent commercial vehicle parking in most areas.  When I did the LA run, I'd park out in the desert.  Literally park out in the California desert, on sand, and I'm not joking!



Truck won't fit through drive-throughs...



Out on the road for days, weeks, and even months in some cases, you can't 'pack a lunch'...
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2020, 03:47:21 AM
Even in Van, pulling up your hood and throwing on your four-ways eventually would get you a ticket.



We'd try to fake a breakdown, so we could run into a store to buy some shit.



I got a ticket once while delivering literally a million dollars worth of Louis Vuitton handbags for rich Honger Chinks in Van...



Vuitton bags are cheap shit made in China, since I know COE...  Cheap Chinese shit that costs five bucks to make, but will sell for thousands...



I delivered that cheap junk.  And I was ticketed for parking...



China.  The fucking gift that seems to just keep on giving.
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2020, 03:57:52 AM
Quote from: "Mel"Truck won't fit through drive-throughs....


...Unfortunately there seem to be lot of professional drivers in any industry who forget this fundamental principle or rule.



So a lot of buildings have chewed off tops on them where the driver forgot that his vehicle was taller than the building clearance.



I worked with some old fart like that.



The clearance was like 8' & he tried to drive a 10' tall bus under it.



After that bus had a cracked hood & a big red streak runnin thru it.



The guy thought he was such hot shit but as a driver he was inept, a moron.



But obviously he's not the only one.



I made several mistakes as a driver, but fortunately not that one.
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2020, 04:03:27 AM
Overhead clearance is a huge issue, and I know it well with my experience!



14" (and 13' 6" too) feet is how high we generally are, and very few places are equipped for this, outside of the main highways...



I have literally stopped traffic in the past, to slowly see if my trailer would scrub an overpass.
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2020, 04:09:53 AM
Residential?  I am always on the lookout for overhead lines.  Residential is where I drive, and the wrong side of the road can mean tearing down a main...



If you see me on the wrong side of the road, it's because I need clearance!
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2020, 04:15:36 AM
This job is easy to outsiders, until it's not...



You pull down a powerline, or hit a bridge?



Things will quickly become not so easy all of a sudden...
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2020, 04:27:24 AM
Quote from: "Mel"This job is easy to outsiders, until it's not...



You pull down a powerline, or hit a bridge?



Things will quickly become not so easy all of a sudden...


I hate driving for a living actually.



Its full of unneeded stress.



Cant wait to quit & find a new career.
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2020, 04:36:10 AM
Quote from: "Guest"
I hate driving for a living actually.



Its full of unneeded stress.



Cant wait to quit & find a new career.

Ya, it is a segment that they couldn't outsource to China, so they managed to outsource it right at home!



And they did.  Sweatshop on Wheels.
Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2020, 01:18:37 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"Very little public washroom right now. Tough time being a trucker.


A little chemical portapotty and a few widemouthed plastic jugs and you're sorted...


And maybe a funnel for gurls named Steve...





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Title: Re: Trucking...
Post by: cc on April 07, 2020, 01:23:52 PM
Quote from: "Mel"Ya, it is a segment that they couldn't outsource to China, so they managed to outsource it right at home!.

Valid statement