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Title: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 05:58:22 PM
More than 10 people dead after gunman's rampage in N.S. communinity

Police have confirmed the gunman has died, and identified the RCMP member who was killed

CBC News · Posted: Apr 19, 2020 5:37 AM AT | Last Updated: 31 minutes ago



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Nova Scotia RCMP provide update on shooting in Portapique,N.S. LIVE

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Gabriel Wortman, 51, was arrested earlier today by RCMP in connection with an active shooter situation that began late Saturday in the rural community of Portapique, N.S. 0:00

People in a rural Nova Scotia community are reeling today after a bloody 12-hour rampage by a gunman who killed at least 10 people.



In an update on Sunday evening, police confirmed the gunman is dead, as well as an RCMP officer.



They said there are at least 10 people killed in total. They warned there may be more victims who have not been discovered yet and their investigation continues.



Nova Scotia RCMP said the gunman was Gabriel Wortman, 51. His rampage began late Saturday night in the small community of Portapique, N.S. He led police on a chase Sunday morning along one of the province's busiest highways. The chase ended near a gas station about 35 kilometres north of Halifax in Enfield, N.S., around 11:40 a.m. local time.



Police victim identified

Const. Heidi Stevenson, a 23-year-member of the RCMP, has been identified as the police member who was killed responding to the active shooter incident.



"Heidi answered the call of duty and lost her life while protecting those she served. Earlier this afternoon I met with Heidi's family and there are no words to describe their pain," Assistant Commissioner Lee Bergerman told reporters during an update on Sunday evening.



"Two children have lost their mother. And a husband has lost his wife. Parents have lost their daughter and countless others lost an incredible friend and colleague."



Bergerman also said a second male officer was injured and is in hospital with non-life threatening injuries.



Police union says 1 member killed, 1 injured

The RCMP union said Sunday members were grieving after losing one of their own.



NEWTimeline: How an active-shooter situation unfolded in Nova Scotia

"Our thoughts are with everyone who experienced great loss today, so tragically and unnecessarily. There are no words," according to the statement from National Police Federation (NPF) president Brian Sauvé.



The NPF also said a second member was injured in the line of duty.



'One of the most senseless acts of violence' in N.S. history

Premier Stephen McNeil addressed the investigation Sunday afternoon.



"I never imagined when I went to bed last night that I would wake up to the horrific news that an active shooter was on the loose in Nova Scotia. This is one of the most senseless acts of violence in our province's history," McNeil said.



"To the families of the victims, and to those who are still feeling afraid, my heart goes out to you. Know that all Nova Scotians are with you."





RCMP are shown near a gas station in Enfield, N.S., around 11:40 a.m. local time. The gunman has been killed. (Eric Woolliscroft/CBC)

McNeil also thanked RCMP for stopping the gunman and doing their best to protect citizens.



In a media briefing Sunday, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau also thanked police for their work.



"My heart goes out to everyone affected in what is a terrible situation," Trudeau said in a brief statement.



Had car resembling RCMP vehicle, police say

Earlier, police had warned that the gunman, who they identified as Wortman before his capture, might be driving a vehicle that looked like an RCMP vehicle, and he might have been wearing an RCMP uniform.





RCMP, Nova Scotia



@RCMPNS

#Colchester: Gabriel Wortman may be driving what appears to be an RCMP vehicle & may be wearing an RCMP uniform. There's 1 difference btwn his car and our RCMP vehicles: the car #. The suspect's car is 28B11, behind rear passenger window. If you see 28B11 call 911 immediately.



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RCMP warned that he was to be considered armed and dangerous.



"If you see him, call 911. DO NOT approach," RCMP tweeted Sunday morning.



Darcy Sack, a Shubenacadie, N.S., resident, said she and her friend came across two burning police vehicles and the silver suspect vehicle while out driving on Sunday morning near Highway 102, one of the province's main arteries.



"We were right behind the police car that was on fire. There was one officer we could see on scene and then all of a sudden, he went running toward one of the burning vehicles," Sack said. "We heard gunshots."





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Sack said her heart was pounding the whole time.



"I had that feeling that something was wrong with the [police officer's] partner — the way he looked. My heart went out to him," she said.



Sack said they then turned on to the highway and then saw the shooter in the silver car again being chased by police. She said he was dressed like a police officer.



Incident began late Saturday night

Police first alerted the public to an incident involving someone with a firearm in the Portapique area on Saturday at 11:30 p.m. Residents were advised by RCMP to stay in their homes and lock their doors.



"You may not see the police but we are there with you," the Nova Scotia RCMP tweeted Sunday morning.





The gunman Gabriel Wortman, 51, has died after an active shooter situation that began late Saturday in the rural community of Portapique, N.S. (RCMP)

Eyewitness saw homes burning

Mike MacKay, who lives just off the Glooscap Trail in Portapique said he saw police cars on the Portapique Beach Road around 11:30 p.m. Saturday, across the Portapique River from his home.



"We saw a fire down the road, and thought that's all that it was. Then we saw a second fire and a third fire," said MacKay in a phone interview from his home Sunday morning.



CBC has learned RCMP and fire fighters were called to a property in Wentworth, N.S., on Sunday morning shortly before 10 a.m. to respond to a house fire.



Police have not released any information about whether it is connected to the shooter investigation.



The RCMP would not comment on the report of multiple house fires when asked by CBC News on Sunday morning.



'You're on edge'

MacKay said he did not sleep at all overnight Saturday.



"You're on edge. It's a small community," said MacKay. "It becomes quite a concern."





(CBC)

Coun. Tom Taggart, who represents the area for the Municipality of Colchester, described Portapique as a quiet community with many seniors.



Taggart said there are many seasonal homes in the area, which has around 100 residents but swells to 250 in the warmer months.



"It's a beautiful, quiet, rural community," said Taggart, adding that the situation is not something he'd expect to happen in "cottage country."
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 06:03:17 PM
I bet the progtards will use this tragedy to push for tougher gun laws
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 06:13:24 PM
It's a strange case, as this guy appears relatively successful:  Owns multiple properties, as well as a Denturist clinic.



Maybe the effects of Chinese virus?  He burnt down some homes...  Maybe he burnt down his own homes because renters couldn't pay?  Maybe Denture clinic had to shut down so no income?  Maybe it was the renters he shot?  He might have asked them nice to leave, but maybe they didn't?



Not sure why he'd be dressed up as a cop, driving around an imitation police car though...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 06:45:52 PM
Even up until relatively recently, this guy was getting great reviews for his work at his denture clinics...







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Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Odinson on April 19, 2020, 06:49:59 PM
Say goodbye to your guns, Mel...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 06:57:26 PM
Quote from: "Guest"More than 10 people dead after gunman's rampage in N.S. communinity

Police have confirmed the gunman has died, and identified the RCMP member who was killed

CBC News · Posted: Apr 19, 2020 5:37 AM AT | Last Updated: 31 minutes ago



Watch

Nova Scotia RCMP provide update on shooting in Portapique,N.S. LIVE

Started 58 minutes ago LIVE

Gabriel Wortman, 51, was arrested earlier today by RCMP in connection with an active shooter situation that began late Saturday in the rural community of Portapique, N.S. 0:00

People in a rural Nova Scotia community are reeling today after a bloody 12-hour rampage by a gunman who killed at least 10 people.



In an update on Sunday evening, police confirmed the gunman is dead, as well as an RCMP officer.



They said there are at least 10 people killed in total. They warned there may be more victims who have not been discovered yet and their investigation continues.



Nova Scotia RCMP said the gunman was Gabriel Wortman, 51. His rampage began late Saturday night in the small community of Portapique, N.S. He led police on a chase Sunday morning along one of the province's busiest highways. The chase ended near a gas station about 35 kilometres north of Halifax in Enfield, N.S., around 11:40 a.m. local time.



Police victim identified

Const. Heidi Stevenson, a 23-year-member of the RCMP, has been identified as the police member who was killed responding to the active shooter incident.



"Heidi answered the call of duty and lost her life while protecting those she served. Earlier this afternoon I met with Heidi's family and there are no words to describe their pain," Assistant Commissioner Lee Bergerman told reporters during an update on Sunday evening.



"Two children have lost their mother. And a husband has lost his wife. Parents have lost their daughter and countless others lost an incredible friend and colleague."



Bergerman also said a second male officer was injured and is in hospital with non-life threatening injuries.



Police union says 1 member killed, 1 injured

The RCMP union said Sunday members were grieving after losing one of their own.



NEWTimeline: How an active-shooter situation unfolded in Nova Scotia

"Our thoughts are with everyone who experienced great loss today, so tragically and unnecessarily. There are no words," according to the statement from National Police Federation (NPF) president Brian Sauvé.



The NPF also said a second member was injured in the line of duty.



'One of the most senseless acts of violence' in N.S. history

Premier Stephen McNeil addressed the investigation Sunday afternoon.



"I never imagined when I went to bed last night that I would wake up to the horrific news that an active shooter was on the loose in Nova Scotia. This is one of the most senseless acts of violence in our province's history," McNeil said.



"To the families of the victims, and to those who are still feeling afraid, my heart goes out to you. Know that all Nova Scotians are with you."





RCMP are shown near a gas station in Enfield, N.S., around 11:40 a.m. local time. The gunman has been killed. (Eric Woolliscroft/CBC)

McNeil also thanked RCMP for stopping the gunman and doing their best to protect citizens.



In a media briefing Sunday, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau also thanked police for their work.



"My heart goes out to everyone affected in what is a terrible situation," Trudeau said in a brief statement.



Had car resembling RCMP vehicle, police say

Earlier, police had warned that the gunman, who they identified as Wortman before his capture, might be driving a vehicle that looked like an RCMP vehicle, and he might have been wearing an RCMP uniform.





RCMP, Nova Scotia



@RCMPNS

#Colchester: Gabriel Wortman may be driving what appears to be an RCMP vehicle & may be wearing an RCMP uniform. There's 1 difference btwn his car and our RCMP vehicles: the car #. The suspect's car is 28B11, behind rear passenger window. If you see 28B11 call 911 immediately.



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RCMP warned that he was to be considered armed and dangerous.



"If you see him, call 911. DO NOT approach," RCMP tweeted Sunday morning.



Darcy Sack, a Shubenacadie, N.S., resident, said she and her friend came across two burning police vehicles and the silver suspect vehicle while out driving on Sunday morning near Highway 102, one of the province's main arteries.



"We were right behind the police car that was on fire. There was one officer we could see on scene and then all of a sudden, he went running toward one of the burning vehicles," Sack said. "We heard gunshots."





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N.S. resident 'up all night' following active shooter incident

4 hours ago 4:34

Sack said her heart was pounding the whole time.



"I had that feeling that something was wrong with the [police officer's] partner — the way he looked. My heart went out to him," she said.



Sack said they then turned on to the highway and then saw the shooter in the silver car again being chased by police. She said he was dressed like a police officer.



Incident began late Saturday night

Police first alerted the public to an incident involving someone with a firearm in the Portapique area on Saturday at 11:30 p.m. Residents were advised by RCMP to stay in their homes and lock their doors.



"You may not see the police but we are there with you," the Nova Scotia RCMP tweeted Sunday morning.





The gunman Gabriel Wortman, 51, has died after an active shooter situation that began late Saturday in the rural community of Portapique, N.S. (RCMP)

Eyewitness saw homes burning

Mike MacKay, who lives just off the Glooscap Trail in Portapique said he saw police cars on the Portapique Beach Road around 11:30 p.m. Saturday, across the Portapique River from his home.



"We saw a fire down the road, and thought that's all that it was. Then we saw a second fire and a third fire," said MacKay in a phone interview from his home Sunday morning.



CBC has learned RCMP and fire fighters were called to a property in Wentworth, N.S., on Sunday morning shortly before 10 a.m. to respond to a house fire.



Police have not released any information about whether it is connected to the shooter investigation.



The RCMP would not comment on the report of multiple house fires when asked by CBC News on Sunday morning.



'You're on edge'

MacKay said he did not sleep at all overnight Saturday.



"You're on edge. It's a small community," said MacKay. "It becomes quite a concern."





(CBC)

Coun. Tom Taggart, who represents the area for the Municipality of Colchester, described Portapique as a quiet community with many seniors.



Taggart said there are many seasonal homes in the area, which has around 100 residents but swells to 250 in the warmer months.



"It's a beautiful, quiet, rural community," said Taggart, adding that the situation is not something he'd expect to happen in "cottage country."

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Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 07:01:25 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"Say goodbye to your guns, Mel...

I don't think this country will ever take the British or Australian approach, but I could be wrong...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 19, 2020, 07:18:17 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"Say goodbye to your guns, Mel...


Highly unlikely...this is Canada, everything is so lax.



I wouldn't be surprised if this was some sort of domestic violence issue or something of the sort.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 07:22:15 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
I wouldn't be surprised if this was some sort of domestic violence issue or something of the sort.

14 people dead...  Domestic violence?
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Zetsu on April 19, 2020, 07:29:24 PM
Quote from: "Mel"Even up until relatively recently, this guy was getting great reviews for his work at his denture clinics...







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Think he has some serious stress issues bugging him but never got the chance to let it out, or it could be he's just another wacko.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 19, 2020, 07:31:46 PM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
I wouldn't be surprised if this was some sort of domestic violence issue or something of the sort.

14 people dead...  Domestic violence?


Yes, or something of the sort....people go fuckin nuts over that sort of stuff...anger, rage...wonder if his wife or gf left him?  Who knows?   The guy was white, he went on spree for some ridiculous reason..
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 19, 2020, 07:38:38 PM
He could've had ongoing mental health problems too?  Who knows? A lot of mental health issues go ignored until someone gets killed.



There are A LOT of people out there with mental health issues and some of them are 'professionals'...nobody does anything....look at Trump...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 07:39:22 PM
My guess:  His two denture clinics were ordered closed due to covid (he worked at them both).  People in this business usually have pandemic insurance that covers some revenue loss.  I'll assume he had this insurance, but perhaps it wasn't enough.  Lease for both buildings would be expected by landlord also.



He also owned three residential properties, one which he lived in.  The other two probably rented out.  Mortgages still need to be paid, but renters out of work and can't pay, and he can't remove them.



His entire world is now collapsing.  He torches his house, shoots the renters in his other houses and torches them too.



Goes out in a hail of bullets.



TL/DR?  China virus made this guy snap!
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 07:50:24 PM
Rumour has it he killed his estranged wife and her new partner also.  I bet she was about to divorce him and attempt to take half his shit also, which she would have gotten.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 19, 2020, 07:50:46 PM
Quote from: "Mel"My guess:  His two denture clinics were ordered closed due to covid (he worked at them both).  People in this business usually have pandemic insurance that covers some revenue loss.  I'll assume he had this insurance, but perhaps it wasn't enough.  Lease for both buildings would be expected by landlord also.



He also owned three residential properties, one which he lived in.  The other two probably rented out.  Mortgages still need to be paid, but renters out of work and can't pay, and he can't remove them.



His entire world is now collapsing.  He torches his house, shoots the renters in his other houses and torches them too.



Goes out in a hail of bullets.



TL/DR?  China virus made this guy snap!

I'll send copy to the RCMP N.S. .. and they can close the case tonight
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Zetsu on April 19, 2020, 07:50:55 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"He could've had ongoing mental health problems too?  Who knows? A lot of mental health issues go ignored until someone gets killed.



There are A LOT of people out there with mental health issues and some of them are 'professionals'...nobody does anything....look at Trump...


Sadly what you've mentioned couldn't be anymore correct.  At least our government should require each person to take a psychiatry test before getting a PAL, and visit their local psychologist for guidance once a year to see if there's anything odd is going on, the facts is gun ownership is something not to underestimate or play with.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 19, 2020, 07:54:11 PM
Was it his gun(s) ?
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 07:54:28 PM
The police are going through his devices, social media looking for clues as to why he did this.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 07:56:34 PM
Quote from: "cc"Was it his gun(s) ?

They haven't said, but more than likely they were.  Unless they were stolen, it's a rare practice for Canadian gun owners to lend their firearms to others...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 07:59:01 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"Sadly what you've mentioned couldn't be anymore correct.  At least our government should require each person to take a psychiatry test before getting a PAL, and visit their local psychologist for guidance once a year to see if there's anything odd is going on, the facts is gun ownership is something not to underestimate or play with.

Would make no difference.  The guy was smart enough to establish and run a denturist practice, so I'm sure he's smart enough to tell a shrink what they want to hear...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 19, 2020, 08:04:23 PM
Agree. Shrink session seems good idea .. but the worse potential killer types know how to fool the best



A record of psycho acts and you have something to work with  but talk would catch only the less bright ones
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 08:07:08 PM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "cc"Was it his gun(s) ?

They haven't said, but more than likely they were.  Unless they were stolen, it's a rare practice for Canadian gun owners to lend their firearms to others...

Maybe he had a semi auto, well you can kiss goodbye to them now
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 08:07:51 PM
Quote from: "cc"Agree. Shrink session seems good idea .. but the killer types know how to fool the best

Look at the reviews I've posted by people he did denture work on.  By all accounts, he seems like an upper-middle class professional.  Even some neighbours that knew him are completely shocked this happened.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 08:09:07 PM
Quote from: "Guest"Maybe he had a semi auto, well you can kiss goodbye to them now

Hard to say, but my guess would be he probably used a semi-auto long gun...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 19, 2020, 08:09:53 PM
yup .. most major killer types can look good to others


QuoteMaybe he had a semi auto, well you can kiss goodbye to them now

Doubt it. A tough argument to support. Semi or not, someone gun-savvy vs many unarmed and surprised can do it with any type gun
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Zetsu on April 19, 2020, 08:24:14 PM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Zetsu"Sadly what you've mentioned couldn't be anymore correct.  At least our government should require each person to take a psychiatry test before getting a PAL, and visit their local psychologist for guidance once a year to see if there's anything odd is going on, the facts is gun ownership is something not to underestimate or play with.

Would make no difference.  The guy was smart enough to establish and run a denturist practice, so I'm sure he's smart enough to tell a shrink what they want to hear...


It might be hard to believe, but a good psychiatrist can get an idea of what going on in a patient's brain, though it's against their work ethics to mind read and really hard to dig up solid evidence, but could at least it'll give the cops a early warning before things get worst.  But the most important thing is to help the person when they need it the most.  



I think it's only reasonable b/c aside from the main reason why cops and soldiers are given guns is b/c it's needed for their job, they still go through strict disciplinary routines and a lot of police station(at least the ones in HK) have psychiatrist on stand by ready to assist.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 08:24:33 PM
2020 is turning out to be a great year so far...   :sad:
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 08:31:28 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
It might be hard to believe, but a good psychiatrist can get an idea of what going on in a patient's brain, though it's against their work ethics to mind read and really hard to dig up solid evidence, but could at least it'll give the cops a early warning before things get worst.  But the most important thing is to help the person when they need it the most.  



I think it's only reasonable b/c aside from the main reason why cops and soldiers are given guns is b/c it's needed for their job, they still go through strict disciplinary routines and a lot of police station(at least the ones in HK) have psychiatrist on stand by ready to assist.

A motivated and determined person can accomplish almost anything in almost all environments, be it good or bad.  It is terribly difficult for even the best shrinks to predict what someone may or may not do months or even years down the road.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 19, 2020, 08:37:36 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Zetsu"Sadly what you've mentioned couldn't be anymore correct.  At least our government should require each person to take a psychiatry test before getting a PAL, and visit their local psychologist for guidance once a year to see if there's anything odd is going on, the facts is gun ownership is something not to underestimate or play with.

Would make no difference.  The guy was smart enough to establish and run a denturist practice, so I'm sure he's smart enough to tell a shrink what they want to hear...


It might be hard to believe, but a good psychiatrist can get an idea of what going on in a patient's brain, though it's against their work ethics to mind read and really hard to dig up solid evidence, but could at least it'll give the cops a early warning before things get worst.  But the most important thing is to help the person when they need it the most.  



I think it's only reasonable b/c aside from the main reason why cops and soldiers are given guns is b/c it's needed for their job, they still go through strict disciplinary routines and a lot of police station(at least the ones in HK) have psychiatrist on stand by ready to assist.

I realize that argument .. but a cool killer type can con anyone ...most shrinks can't even help regular people let alone admit they know very little beyond what the person says to them ... plus most think they are smart enough to just know (the fatal flaw)

The ones they get are the not so bright ones ... the smart ones, not a chance



Again, a record of psychotic acts IS useful
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Zetsu on April 19, 2020, 08:40:47 PM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
It might be hard to believe, but a good psychiatrist can get an idea of what going on in a patient's brain, though it's against their work ethics to mind read and really hard to dig up solid evidence, but could at least it'll give the cops a early warning before things get worst.  But the most important thing is to help the person when they need it the most.  



I think it's only reasonable b/c aside from the main reason why cops and soldiers are given guns is b/c it's needed for their job, they still go through strict disciplinary routines and a lot of police station(at least the ones in HK) have psychiatrist on stand by ready to assist.

A motivated and determined person can accomplish almost anything in almost all environments, be it good or bad.  It is terribly difficult for even the best shrinks to predict what someone may or may not do months or even years down the road.


What you say is true, but a psychiatrist doesn't just rely on what the patient tell them, sometimes they understand the person better than themselves, they have definitely have their ways, you can bet on that, else criminal psychiatry wouldn't exist in the first place.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Zetsu on April 19, 2020, 08:44:54 PM
Quote from: "cc"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Zetsu"Sadly what you've mentioned couldn't be anymore correct.  At least our government should require each person to take a psychiatry test before getting a PAL, and visit their local psychologist for guidance once a year to see if there's anything odd is going on, the facts is gun ownership is something not to underestimate or play with.

Would make no difference.  The guy was smart enough to establish and run a denturist practice, so I'm sure he's smart enough to tell a shrink what they want to hear...


It might be hard to believe, but a good psychiatrist can get an idea of what going on in a patient's brain, though it's against their work ethics to mind read and really hard to dig up solid evidence, but could at least it'll give the cops a early warning before things get worst.  But the most important thing is to help the person when they need it the most.  



I think it's only reasonable b/c aside from the main reason why cops and soldiers are given guns is b/c it's needed for their job, they still go through strict disciplinary routines and a lot of police station(at least the ones in HK) have psychiatrist on stand by ready to assist.

I realize that argument .. but a cool killer type can con anyone ...most shrinks can't even help regular people let alone admit they know very little beyond what the person says to them ... plus most think they are smart enough to just know (the fatal flaw)

The ones they get are the not so bright ones ... the smart ones, not a chance



Again, a record of psychotic acts IS useful


A person can lie, but the brain can't.  With smart gadgets like a watch with gps can easily give the psychiatrist and idea what people are struggling with, and if a person is making things up, most can easily tell.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 08:47:46 PM
The Canadian system does have some checks in place though.  To get a gun licence, you have to provide two references from people that have known you for at least three years.  These references aren't always checked (they will phone references more often if you're applying for Restricted/Handgun).



It's not a perfect system, but if those references claimed you were a nutcase, your application would be redflagged.



Also, if you have a spouse or common law partner, they also have to sign that you're not a nutcase, and have to do so every five years when licence renewal time comes up...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 19, 2020, 08:50:24 PM
I disagree strongly on shrinks or psychologists . I was at one time married to one with his masters and so got to know several of them off the job and off guard



Egomaniacs who think they are smart in general  (their downfall / Achilles heel) who can't figure anyone smart out
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 08:51:53 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
What you say is true, but a psychiatrist doesn't just rely on what the patient tell them, sometimes they understand the person better than themselves, they have definitely have their ways, you can bet on that, else criminal psychiatry wouldn't exist in the first place.

Criminal psychiatry exists only after an individual has committed a crime.  It is fairly useless at predicting a crime before it has been committed though...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Zetsu on April 19, 2020, 09:00:19 PM
Quote from: "cc"I disagree strongly on shrinks or psychologists . I was at one time married to one with his masters and so got to know several of them off the job and off guard



Egomaniacs who think they are smart in general  (their downfall / Achilles heel) who can't figure anyone smart out


Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
What you say is true, but a psychiatrist doesn't just rely on what the patient tell them, sometimes they understand the person better than themselves, they have definitely have their ways, you can bet on that, else criminal psychiatry wouldn't exist in the first place.

Criminal psychiatry exists only after an individual has committed a crime.  It is fairly useless at predicting a crime before it has been committed though...


They definitely can't predict the future, but the purpose is to see who is mentally qualified and stable to own a firearm.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 19, 2020, 09:04:15 PM
Quote from: "cc"
Quote from: "Mel"My guess:  His two denture clinics were ordered closed due to covid (he worked at them both).  People in this business usually have pandemic insurance that covers some revenue loss.  I'll assume he had this insurance, but perhaps it wasn't enough.  Lease for both buildings would be expected by landlord also.



He also owned three residential properties, one which he lived in.  The other two probably rented out.  Mortgages still need to be paid, but renters out of work and can't pay, and he can't remove them.



His entire world is now collapsing.  He torches his house, shoots the renters in his other houses and torches them too.



Goes out in a hail of bullets.



TL/DR?  China virus made this guy snap!

I'll send copy to the RCMP N.S. .. and they can close the case tonight

 :roll:
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 09:08:00 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"They definitely can't predict the future, but the purpose is to see who is mentally qualified and stable to own a firearm.

A person often can't determine what another person may do in the future, no matter how well they are trained.  It is simply not possible.



Some serial killers were married.  It is a shock to them when they learn their husbands have been arrested for these crimes.  Their neighbours are in shock.  The entire family is in shock.  Their co-workers are in shock.



If a guy can spend months or even years serial killing, while fooling the people he literally lives with every single day, I can assure you he can fool a shrink too.  Don't ever assume that some of the people that commit these crimes are dumb.  Some have an IQ that would probably soar above your average shrink...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 09:11:17 PM
Quote from: "cc"
I'll send copy to the RCMP N.S. .. and they can close the case tonight

Thank you.  It's time my talents stop going to waste...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 19, 2020, 09:12:19 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"He could've had ongoing mental health problems too?  Who knows? A lot of mental health issues go ignored until someone gets killed.



There are A LOT of people out there with mental health issues and some of them are 'professionals'...nobody does anything....look at Trump...


Sadly what you've mentioned couldn't be anymore correct.  At least our government should require each person to take a psychiatry test before getting a PAL, and visit their local psychologist for guidance once a year to see if there's anything odd is going on, the facts is gun ownership is something not to underestimate or play with.


It's part of the issue obviously.  Anyone can be a 'professional' until they snap.  It happens in all walks of life.  People are very good at a hiding it...the smarter they are, the more dangerous it becomes.



And yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if his wife left him for another man...he could've been abusive...those types are fuckin nuts but come across as so charming.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Zetsu on April 19, 2020, 09:13:28 PM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Zetsu"They definitely can't predict the future, but the purpose is to see who is mentally qualified and stable to own a firearm.

A person often can't determine what another person may do in the future, no matter how well they are trained.  It is simply not possible.



Some serial killers were married.  It is a shock to them when they learn their husbands have been arrested for these crimes.  Their neighbours are in shock.  The entire family is in shock.  Their co-workers are in shock.



If a guy can spend months or even years serial killing, while fooling the people he literally lives with every single day, I can assure you he can fool a shrink too.  Don't ever assume that some of the people that commit these crimes are dumb.  Some have an IQ that would probably soar above your average shrink...


Those are psychopaths you're talking about Mel, and the best of the best too.  In reality most people that choose to break the law are usually dumb people mainly b/c they can't keep up with society's standards.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 09:15:46 PM
I just want to point out that the killer is white.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 09:19:35 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"I just want to point out that the killer is white.

I just want to point out that the guy below is South Korean...





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Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 19, 2020, 09:20:07 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"I just want to point out that the killer is white.


I said the same thing a few posts back...aren't ya proud of me Shen?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Zetsu on April 19, 2020, 09:25:03 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"He could've had ongoing mental health problems too?  Who knows? A lot of mental health issues go ignored until someone gets killed.



There are A LOT of people out there with mental health issues and some of them are 'professionals'...nobody does anything....look at Trump...


Sadly what you've mentioned couldn't be anymore correct.  At least our government should require each person to take a psychiatry test before getting a PAL, and visit their local psychologist for guidance once a year to see if there's anything odd is going on, the facts is gun ownership is something not to underestimate or play with.


It's part of the issue obviously.  Anyone can be a 'professional' until they snap.  It happens in all walks of life.  People are very good at a hiding it...the smarter they are, the more dangerous it becomes.



And yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if his wife left him for another man...he could've been abusive...those types are fuckin nuts but come across as so charming.


Yep, I've seen a lot of these kind of people in HK too before, while dating they can really nice to each other, but once married either one of them becomes nothing but a source of trouble for the unfortunate SO, and cause a vicious cycle.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 09:27:28 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "Shen Li"I just want to point out that the killer is white.


I said the same thing a few posts back...aren't ya proud of me Shen?  :laugh:

 ac_drinks
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 09:28:25 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"Those are psychopaths you're talking about Mel, and the best of the best too.  In reality most people that choose to break the law are usually dumb people mainly b/c they can't keep up with society's standards.

That's what I'm saying though...  Most people that commit the more serious crimes in our society would likely have an upper level IQ...



80 IQ Jamal is often content with robbing the occasional corner store.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 09:33:49 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"I just want to point out that the killer is white.

 :sneaky2:
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 09:35:31 PM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Shen Li"I just want to point out that the killer is white.

I just want to point out that the guy below is South Korean...





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I hate it when us superior East Asians copy the evil that whites do.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Zetsu on April 19, 2020, 09:37:30 PM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Zetsu"Those are psychopaths you're talking about Mel, and the best of the best too.  In reality most people that choose to break the law are usually dumb people mainly b/c they can't keep up with society's standards.

That's what I'm saying though...  Most people that commit the more serious crimes in our society would likely have an upper level IQ...



80 IQ Jamal is often content with robbing the occasional corner store.


You're not getting my point Mel, most people that commit crime is mainly for money, if they are truly smart they could've easily have gotten what they want by walking through the lawful route.  And if people have psychopathic behavior and/or always tend to lie, they wouldn't been able to easily fly under the radar of an experience pathologist or psychiatrist's.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 09:46:56 PM
It aint difficult getting a non restricted PAL in Canada.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 19, 2020, 09:49:33 PM
A smart psychopathic is the most difficult to figure in advance



Mel gave examples of serial killers who don't give their acts away, often for many years,  because they have no feelings and actually do not even know right or wrong  .. no conscience so no give away reactions .. cool .. cold .. give off no clues
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 09:56:54 PM
Quote from: "cc"A smart psychopathic is the most difficult to figure in advance



Mel gave examples of serial killers who don't give their acts away, often for many years,  because they have no feelings and actually do not even know right or wrong  .. no conscience so no give away reactions .. cool .. cold .. give off no clues

Don't most of them start off killing small animals?
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Zetsu on April 19, 2020, 09:59:31 PM
Quote from: "cc"A smart psychopathic is the most difficult to figure in advance



Mel gave examples of serial killers who don't give their acts away, often for many years,  because they have no feelings and actually do not even know right or wrong  .. no conscience so no give away reactions .. cool .. cold .. give off no clues


But we're talking about the best psychopaths, that's a small faction of 1% of the human population, even if they are they can still be diagnosed and identified based on their common behavior and be locked up in a mental institute.  Don't even need any evidence or have to go through court if people show signs of dangerous characteristic to the society.  My brother used to work in a maximum security prison and have seen enough of this crap and have sign a lot of paper work sending people to institutes for examination.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 19, 2020, 10:02:41 PM
Right. Many do .. the clues are often there.



That's why I mentioned, with a smart  psychopath, the only way to get him is "record" .. if there is one



The smart ones don't do anything that will leave a record ... but animals as a child (not usually recorded) is in the early bio of many serial killers .. at least those who's thing is torture / hurting people as well as killing



Mind you this guy was not serial (= zero history, no clues as far as we know .. good solid regular guy), but most certainly was  heavily psychopathic
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 10:10:20 PM
Quote from: "cc"Right. Many do .. the clues are often there.



That's why I mentioned, with a smart  psychopath, the only way to get him is "record" .. if there is one



The smart ones don't do anything that will leave a record ... but animals as a child (not usually recorded) is in the early bio of many serial killers .. at least those who's thing is torture / hurting people as well as killing



Mind you this guy was not serial (= zero history, no clues as far as we know .. good solid regular guy), but most certainly was  heavily psychopathic

Serial killers and mass killers are two different animals. Serial killers are usually life long mental cases, while mass killers just snap. No doubt there are exceptions, but that is what I've heard.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 19, 2020, 10:16:26 PM
Could be a crime of passion...this pandemic could've bought him to act upon what he did.  I'm curious to know if this is what happened.



When people split in relarionships, some don't take it well and will do anything to destroy the other persons life, including killing the children or the spouse.  And generally it's the man who does this.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 19, 2020, 10:17:42 PM
In general I believe that to be correct ... very different animals ..



although I'm not so sure about " just snap" .. I'd bet it was there all along, just not acted on until something triggers it



Serial killers work one at a time .. a mass killer just shoots everyone he can



 it will be interesting if he knew everyone he went after .. if he did, it's not yer typical mass killing .. it's targeted killing
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Zetsu on April 19, 2020, 10:18:28 PM
Quote from: "cc"Right. Many do .. the clues are often there.



That's why I mentioned, with a smart  psychopath, the only way to get him is "record" .. if there is one



The smart ones don't do anything that will leave a record ... but animals as a child (not usually recorded) is in the early bio of many serial killers .. at least those who's thing is torture / hurting people as well as killing



Mind you this guy was not serial (= zero history, no clues as far as we know .. good solid regular guy), but most certainly was  heavily psychopathic


Most psychopath can fool a good cop, but not a good psychiatrist, usually just the smallest hint is enough to give the examiner more reasons to prolong the examination.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 19, 2020, 10:22:50 PM
You give shrinks way too much credit .. like they are world smart ... most are not  in the least so



I could give many real examples of academically smart, but  real world exceptionally dumb .. driven only by massive egos that need fed = "they are always right"
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 19, 2020, 10:26:03 PM
Quote from: "cc"In general I believe that to be correct ... very different animals ..



although I'm not so sure about " just snap" .. I'd bet it was there all along, just not acted on until something triggers it



Serial killers work one at a time .. a mass killer just shoots everyone he can



 it will be interesting if he knew everyone he went after .. if he did, it's not yer typical mass killing .. it's targeted killing


That's what I was thinking...what's up with the fires tho?  Did he decide to include those he couldn't stand too?
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 19, 2020, 10:27:30 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "cc"In general I believe that to be correct ... very different animals ..



although I'm not so sure about " just snap" .. I'd bet it was there all along, just not acted on until something triggers it



Serial killers work one at a time .. a mass killer just shoots everyone he can



 it will be interesting if he knew everyone he went after .. if he did, it's not yer typical mass killing .. it's targeted killing


That's what I was thinking...what's up with the fires tho?  Did he decide to include those he couldn't stand too?

We have bits and pieces = teasers but no full story and many questions



I hope in time they will do a blow by blow talk on this one
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 10:34:12 PM
Quote from: "cc"In general I believe that to be correct ... very different animals ..



although I'm not so sure about " just snap" .. I'd bet it was there all along, just not acted on until something triggers it



Serial killers work one at a time .. a mass killer just shoots everyone he can



 it will be interesting if he knew everyone he went after .. if he did, it's not yer typical mass killing .. it's targeted killing

I don't know. I never went to university, I never took a psych course.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 19, 2020, 10:44:04 PM
I've been thru some shit in my lifetime...everyones experience is different...in my own personal experience, these kinds of tards can be hard to get away from, the police and courts don't help.  Moving and hiding can help...that's what I did.  Anyone who knows they are serious danger, my opinion to them is, fuck the law and move away as far as you can.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 10:59:24 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"I've been thru some shit in my lifetime...everyones experience is different...in my own personal experience, these kinds of tards can be hard to get away from, the police and courts don't help.  Moving and hiding can help...that's what I did.  Anyone who knows they are serious danger, my opinion to them is, fuck the law and move away as far as you can.

Any guy tries to get dangerous with me and it would be the last frickin thing they ever do.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 11:03:11 PM
Quote from: "cc"it will be interesting if he knew everyone he went after .. if he did, it's not yer typical mass killing .. it's targeted killing

Rumour has it that he knew some of the people he killed (estranged wife and her new lover), but others were random.  If the latter is truly the case, then it changes the game...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 11:12:19 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"And if people have psychopathic behavior and/or always tend to lie, they wouldn't been able to easily fly under the radar of an experience pathologist or psychiatrist's.

You are overestimating the abilities of psychiatrists, and underestimating the abilities of some they may deal with.



I'll simplify this for you:  Let's say I truly am hearing voices in my head.  Not a good sign, right?  If I told a shrink that there are no voices in my head, how the hell would he be able to refute that?  He can't.



A shrink can only diagnose by what you've done, and what you say.  He cannot diagnose with what I haven't done, and what I haven't said.



Come on man...  Some of the worst criminals have IQ's that would surprise you, and can easily tell a shrink what they want, or don't want, to hear.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 11:14:19 PM
Quote from: "cc"it will be interesting if he knew everyone he went after .. if he did, it's not yer typical mass killing .. it's targeted killing

I wondered about that.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 11:29:48 PM
Be Ted Bundy.

Have IQ of 136.

Attend school as psychology major.

Became an honor student and well regarded by professors
.



People like this can, as he did, toy with shrinks with ease!
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 11:36:19 PM
That Scotia shooter was even white. What do you make of that, Mel? No blaming him for straying off the rez or up from the ghetto. Conundrum
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 11:37:22 PM
There were warning signs with him. When Ted Bundy was a teen, he spent his nights as a Peeping Tom, hoping to get a glimpse of one of the neighborhood girls getting undressed in their bedrooms.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 11:43:28 PM
Quote from: "Bullseye"That Scotia shooter was even white. What do you make of that, Mel? No blaming him for straying off the rez or up from the ghetto. Conundrum

Not surprising at all to me.  It's all about demographics.  Simply put, there's more Whites here than other races.



In the US, the proportion of mass shooters in the United States who are white is slightly less than the proportion of white people in the general population, however the proportion of male mass shooters is considerably greater than the proportion of males.



So the stats show Whites are actually less likely than other races to go on a shooting spree, at least in the US.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 19, 2020, 11:44:34 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"There were warning signs with him. When Ted Bundy was a teen, he spent his nights as a Peeping Tom, hoping to get a glimpse of one of the neighborhood girls getting undressed in their bedrooms.


Much like eddie, he even says they knew and wanted it...fuckin weirdo.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 19, 2020, 11:47:36 PM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"I've been thru some shit in my lifetime...everyones experience is different...in my own personal experience, these kinds of tards can be hard to get away from, the police and courts don't help.  Moving and hiding can help...that's what I did.  Anyone who knows they are serious danger, my opinion to them is, fuck the law and move away as far as you can.

Any guy tried to dangerous with me and it would be the last frickin thing they ever do.


Oh yeah, can't say the thought never crossed my mind...but I've got a kid...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 19, 2020, 11:49:26 PM
These people will never stop cause they're fuckin sick in the head.  It's too bad that the courts don't take it seriously...they've ruined so many lives.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 11:51:27 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "Shen Li"There were warning signs with him. When Ted Bundy was a teen, he spent his nights as a Peeping Tom, hoping to get a glimpse of one of the neighborhood girls getting undressed in their bedrooms.


Much like eddie, he even says they knew and wanted it...fuckin weirdo.

That is one sick little progtard.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2020, 11:53:17 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"I've been thru some shit in my lifetime...everyones experience is different...in my own personal experience, these kinds of tards can be hard to get away from, the police and courts don't help.  Moving and hiding can help...that's what I did.  Anyone who knows they are serious danger, my opinion to them is, fuck the law and move away as far as you can.

Any guy tried to dangerous with me and it would be the last frickin thing they ever do.


Oh yeah, can't say the thought never crossed my mind...but I've got a kid...

Right on kid.  ac_drinks



Don't let anybody bully you.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 20, 2020, 01:38:23 AM
It was hard, Herman.  And fuckin stupid.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 20, 2020, 01:39:10 AM
https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/warmington-nova-scotia-mass-murder-evil-and-calculated?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1587352147



POS, this guy is fucked...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 20, 2020, 03:00:44 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"I just want to point out that the killer is white.

He had a house and and was a dentist in Dartmouth which has a large black population
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: caskur on April 20, 2020, 04:59:19 AM
Quote from: "Mel"Rumour has it he killed his estranged wife and her new partner also.  I bet she was about to divorce him and attempt to take half his shit also, which she would have gotten.


That'll do it..



There are two Nova Scotia people known to me on the net...



One is a nurse who posted at Trollvalhalla... another is man on my facebook group who makes furniture, NS isn't a very big place.



I'll see what he says... I'll get more info from him.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 20, 2020, 05:13:48 PM
Quote from: "Mel"Be Ted Bundy.

Have IQ of 136.

Attend school as psychology major.

.



People like this can, as he did, toy with shrinks with ease!


Mel you're just looking at the most extreme case that doesn't reflect the average, the fact is these kind of people only do well in movies and there are still many ways to catch them, just b/c they're smart doesn't mean they won't be careless for a moment and give away clues and evidence to police and shrinks.  It's true he might be able to hide his evil intent very well but like Shen has already mentioned he already shown signs of disturbing behavior by spying girls in his neighbourhood.  




Quote"Became an honor student and well regarded by professors"


This is not surprising considering this is just the basic characteristic of a common psychopath, they can act very normal on the outside through the eyes of a normal person, but under a full diagnostic and test from a psychiatrist is another story.  Trust me on this, I've met a lot of smart and good mental health doctors in my life and know what they're capable of.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Zetsu on April 20, 2020, 05:15:33 PM
That was me btw.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Odinson on April 20, 2020, 06:11:48 PM
Ted Bundy used to be one of those suicide hotline guys..



Maybe thats why he didnt believe anybody gave a shit about his victims.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 20, 2020, 06:42:30 PM
I'm seriously disturbed by what he did to that cop...that's just horrific.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 20, 2020, 07:32:23 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"I've been thru some shit in my lifetime...everyones experience is different...in my own personal experience, these kinds of tards can be hard to get away from, the police and courts don't help.  Moving and hiding can help...that's what I did.  Anyone who knows they are serious danger, my opinion to them is, fuck the law and move away as far as you can.






This is why it pays to have family involved in organized crime.







I wish a motherfucker would
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 20, 2020, 07:54:08 PM
Quote from: "The Queen Bee"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"I've been thru some shit in my lifetime...everyones experience is different...in my own personal experience, these kinds of tards can be hard to get away from, the police and courts don't help.  Moving and hiding can help...that's what I did.  Anyone who knows they are serious danger, my opinion to them is, fuck the law and move away as far as you can.






This is why it pays to have family involved in organized crime.







I wish a motherfucker would

I was that family member. :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 05:16:54 AM
Quote from: "Guest"Trust me on this, I've met a lot of smart and good mental health doctors in my life and know what they're capable of.

I don't care who you've met, with all due respect!



If you think that you, or anyone else for that matter, can predict what a person will do at some point in the future, you are sadly mistaken...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 05:32:38 AM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"I'm seriously disturbed by what he did to that cop...that's just horrific.

He shot her and stole her Smith...  Nothing really that horrific.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 03:31:36 PM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"I'm seriously disturbed by what he did to that cop...that's just horrific.

He shot her and stole her Smith...  Nothing really that horrific.

Mmmm. Take a look around you and count the people on these forums who've expressed a willingness to do exactly that over words on a screen... it's really quite common.





Hi Caskur.  ac_hithere
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Zetsu on April 21, 2020, 04:53:26 PM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Guest"Trust me on this, I've met a lot of smart and good mental health doctors in my life and know what they're capable of.

I don't care who you've met, with all due respect!



If you think that you, or anyone else for that matter, can predict what a person will do at some point in the future, you are sadly mistaken...


Mel you're missing my point, what I mean is people should go through a psychiatry test before getting a PAL.  It'll definitely weed out a lot of lunatics before they can get their hands on one.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 21, 2020, 06:36:04 PM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"I'm seriously disturbed by what he did to that cop...that's just horrific.

He shot her and stole her Smith...  Nothing really that horrific.


Umm...article says he shot her in the chest multiple times, then went to her car and executed her...what isn't horrific about that?
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 07:03:36 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"I'm seriously disturbed by what he did to that cop...that's just horrific.

He shot her and stole her Smith...  Nothing really that horrific.


Umm...article says he shot her in the chest multiple times, then went to her car and executed her...what isn't horrific about that?

She wasn't dead already?
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 08:43:17 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"I'm seriously disturbed by what he did to that cop...that's just horrific.

He shot her and stole her Smith...  Nothing really that horrific.


Umm...article says he shot her in the chest multiple times, then went to her car and executed her...what isn't horrific about that?

She wasn't dead already?

We live in a society where it's (a) considered okay to punch a nazi, (b) anyone can be called a nazi and (c) anyone who argues is....  ac_boring I've seen footage of little old ladies getting beaten up on the streets for that shit and the RCMP did nothing to stop it and three tenths of sweet fuck all to redress the situation after the fact.



Here's my point; lack of respect for each other has given us a society with so little empathy that things like Nova Scotia are the new norm. The constant sensationalism and politicization of what ails us and what we are told should ail us has inured this little black duck, the horror has been replaced with repugnance and even that is now fading to indifference. The old Canada is slipping away and yes, I am sad to see it go. We used to be better than this, but with the rowdy neighbours we have, the uptick of infotainment masquerading as "news" on our networks and the sweet socialist snake oil lullabies of a little nannying going a long way so more nannying must be better, I for one am looking forward to our next prescribed tragedy with supreme disinterest.



Sorry Berry Sweet, I wish I wasn't so blackpilled that I couldn't empathize with you better on this. Best advice I can give you is to heal your heart over it and try not to let it get to you. I'm sure you have loved ones and an extended community that is within your capabilities to nurture and care for against this sort of crap. Continue to do that - it's worth the effort.



And if you personally see someone who looks to be headed down the road that gunman in Nova Scotia took, show them compassion and understanding. It may be the only thing that averts something like this happening in your own back yard.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 08:47:13 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"It'll definitely weed out a lot of lunatics before they can get their hands on one.

No, it wouldn't.  I don't know why you think shrinks are some kind of magical, mystical beings?  They aren't.  They can only diagnose with the info they have, and that info is one of two things:  What the client chooses to tell them, and what the client has done, the latter being dependent on the shrink knowing what, if anything, the client has done in the past.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 08:50:48 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
She wasn't dead already?

Her vest and being hit in non critical areas probably prevented immediate death.  He finished her off though, probably with a shot to the head.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 08:54:41 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Umm...article says he shot her in the chest multiple times, then went to her car and executed her...what isn't horrific about that?

I'm just saying he shot her execution style, just like he did all the other victims.  Her murder was no more horrific than any of the others, is what I meant.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Zetsu on April 21, 2020, 08:59:32 PM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Zetsu"It'll definitely weed out a lot of lunatics before they can get their hands on one.

No, it wouldn't.  I don't know why you think shrinks are some kind of magical, mystical beings?  They aren't.  They can only diagnose with the info they have, and that info is one of two things:  What the client chooses to tell them, and what the client has done, the latter being dependent on the shrink knowing what, if anything, the client has done in the past.


Here are just one of the basic ways to identify one, while I wouldn't be surprise if shrinks have more options and superior solutions through a series of more complex tests.



https://psychcentral.com/lib/how-to-recognize-a-psychopath/
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 21, 2020, 09:06:39 PM
Even that article supports the unlikelyhood of a shrink spotting one


QuoteA psychopath will hurt you, and you'll never see it coming.



Having read you well and knowing your weaknesses and vulnerabilities, a psychopath may not immediately act on this information. He or she will, however, use what's been gathered against you in the future.



Neighbors, friends and co-workers may react in disbelief after learning about someone they know who's ultimately revealed as a psychopathic personality. The psychopath's victims never see it coming.

A smart psychopath plays with shrinks  .. the opportunity would be relished as a challenge .. he will eat the shrink for lunch and the shrink "will not see it coming"  .. another victory for Mr psychopath .. not a fair fight at all
QuoteFrom a personal perspective, and drawing on a wealth of psychological insight from experts, here's how to recognize a psychopath.

None on the list will he show the shrink. Smart psychopaths know the list and how to play it to their advantage .. again, a challenge / chance to win again
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Zetsu on April 21, 2020, 09:13:54 PM
Quote from: "cc"Even that article supports the unlikelyhood of a shrink spotting one


QuoteA psychopath will hurt you, and you'll never see it coming.



Having read you well and knowing your weaknesses and vulnerabilities, a psychopath may not immediately act on this information. He or she will, however, use what's been gathered against you in the future.



Neighbors, friends and co-workers may react in disbelief after learning about someone they know who's ultimately revealed as a psychopathic personality. The psychopath's victims never see it coming.

A smart psychopath plays with shrinks  .. the opportunity would be relished as a challenge .. he will eat the shrink for lunch and the shrink "will not see it coming"  .. another victory for Mr psychopath


But if the psychopath chooses hurt the shrink, it only gives away the identity of the lunatic.  



Some psychopath don't even know what they're doing and their biggest weakness is they're highly dictated by their own personality, which gives the psychiatrist more clues to find out.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 09:17:03 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Here are just one of the basic ways to identify one, while I wouldn't be surprise if shrinks have more options and superior solutions through a series of more complex tests.



https://psychcentral.com/lib/how-to-recognize-a-psychopath/

Dude, even the shrinks who shrinked Bundy couldn't even agree what was up with him.  One shrink even changed her diagnoses numerous times.



You make it sound like it's some exact science, where they can predict if some guy is going to go on a shooting rampage in the future.  They can NOT!
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 21, 2020, 09:18:27 PM
He won't hurt him. He'll play with him. The objective in that situation is not to hurt .. at lease so the shrink knows he's being hurt ... He'll just make him think he's a OK guy  .. the immediate objective



Psychopaths are   immediate objective oriented people
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 09:24:21 PM
You can get into a persons mind only if they truly let you in.  It's one reason why we have such strong client confidentiality laws in place, because if we didn't nobody would tell them a damn thing!
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Zetsu on April 21, 2020, 09:26:12 PM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Here are just one of the basic ways to identify one, while I wouldn't be surprise if shrinks have more options and superior solutions through a series of more complex tests.



https://psychcentral.com/lib/how-to-recognize-a-psychopath/

Dude, even the shrinks who shrinked Bundy couldn't even agree what was up with him.  One shrink even changed her diagnoses numerous times.



You make it sound like it's some exact science, where they can predict if some guy is going to go on a shooting rampage in the future.  They can NOT!


You're not getting my point again Mel, I've mentioned before Tedbundy doesn't reflect anywhere close to the average psychopath, nor can shrinks foresee the future but the purpose of a psychiatric test is to root out the more common psychopath or nut heads so they don't turn the neighbourhood into another beehive.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 09:27:33 PM
There are now twenty victims.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 21, 2020, 09:29:03 PM
23 I just read



HALIFAX — The number of people who died in a rampage by a Halifax man impersonating an RCMP officer has risen to 23, including a 17-year-old, with bodies found in five Nova Scotia communities.



National post



... Damn!!!
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 09:29:43 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
You're not getting my point again Mel, I've mentioned before Tedbundy doesn't reflect anywhere close to the average psychopath, nor can shrinks foresee the future but the purpose of a psychiatric test is to root out the more common psychopath or nut heads so they don't turn the neighbourhood into another beehive.

So, you think that a quick convo with a shrink would've prevented a successful denturist from obtaining a gun licence, assuming that he even had one?
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Zetsu on April 21, 2020, 09:35:09 PM
Quote from: "cc"He won't hurt him. He'll play with him. The objective in that situation is not to hurt .. at lease so the shrink knows he's being hurt ... He'll just make him think he's a OK guy  .. the immediate objective



Psychopaths are   immediate objective oriented people


That is true but I believe a psychopath need to understand perfect psychology like TedBundy in order to fool a shrink without leaving any clues, but they still have their characteristics, but I agree it's not easy to find out, but at the same time not impossible.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Zetsu on April 21, 2020, 09:37:02 PM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
You're not getting my point again Mel, I've mentioned before Tedbundy doesn't reflect anywhere close to the average psychopath, nor can shrinks foresee the future but the purpose of a psychiatric test is to root out the more common psychopath or nut heads so they don't turn the neighbourhood into another beehive.

So, you think that a quick convo with a shrink would've prevented a successful denturist from obtaining a gun licence, assuming that he even had one?


Definitely not just a simple chat, but a series of psychiatric tests to identify his personality type, and if he's being dishonest, then he has given away his identity.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 21, 2020, 09:38:19 PM
They are deliberately "not releasing any gun info until they have all killings figured out" .. could indicate multiple weapons?



I just thought of something .. . There are no cases of injured mentioned ... has anyone heard of any?

Was he that dedicated that he made sure all were killed?
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 09:41:20 PM
Quote from: "cc"They are deliberately "not releasing any gun info until they have all killings figured out" .. could indicate multiple weapons?



I just thought of something .. . There are no cases of injured mentioned ... has anyone heard of any?

It seems everyone he targeted is dead.  He would only need one weapon to do what he did.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 09:42:35 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Definitely not just a simple chat, but a series of psychiatric tests to identify his personality type, and if he's being dishonest, then he has given away his identity.

You have far too much faith in what they can accomplish.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Zetsu on April 21, 2020, 09:44:40 PM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Definitely not just a simple chat, but a series of psychiatric tests to identify his personality type, and if he's being dishonest, then he has given away his identity.

You have far too much faith in what they can accomplish.


That's b/c they can, I was also diagnosed before, and they've nailed it.  They told me as I grow up I have a chance of having severe OCD and which type of jobs I'm most suitable for.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 09:45:32 PM
Remember, the vast majority of people in society are relatively normal, until they are not.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Zetsu on April 21, 2020, 09:46:59 PM
Quote from: "Mel"Remember, the vast majority of people in society are relatively normal, until they are not.


That is true, but people just don't suddenly become psychopaths, as cruel as it sounds, they're ruled by their desires and personality.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 09:47:40 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"That's b/c they can, I was also diagnosed before, and they've nailed it.  They told me as I grow up I have a chance of having severe OCD and which type of jobs I'm most suitable for.

That's great, and they probably came to that conclusion because you decided to be open and honest with them, not because they could magically read your mind and thoughts...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Zetsu on April 21, 2020, 09:50:38 PM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Zetsu"That's b/c they can, I was also diagnosed before, and they've nailed it.  They told me as I grow up I have a chance of having severe OCD and which type of jobs I'm most suitable for.

That's great, and they probably came to that conclusion because you decided to be open and honest with them, not because they could magically read your mind and thoughts...


You might be surprised, but I don't remember any of the test asking for my opinion or preference or anything that involves honesty, it's a bunch of problem solving questions, math, literature that took me at least 12 hours to complete.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 09:55:18 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"That is true, but people just don't suddenly become psychopaths, as cruel as it sounds, they're ruled by their desires and personality.

No, but people can go from running two successful denturist clinics with many happy clients, amassing sizable wealth, owning five properties, to perpetrating the worst shooting in Canadian history.



We can try to understand why some people do what they do, but not even shrinks have all the answers.  The brain is an amazing thing, but sometimes it doesn't work right, and no shrink in the world can always fix it, nor even understand it.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Zetsu on April 21, 2020, 09:59:58 PM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Zetsu"That is true, but people just don't suddenly become psychopaths, as cruel as it sounds, they're ruled by their desires and personality.

No, but people can go from running two successful denturist clinics with many happy clients, amassing sizable wealth, owning five properties, to perpetrating the worst shooting in Canadian history.



We can try to understand why some people do what they do, but not even shrinks have all the answers.  The brain is an amazing thing, but sometimes it doesn't work right, and no shrink in the world can always fix it, nor even understand it.


He might have some severe stress issues that made him do this, but if he got help from a shrink this could have been easily prevented.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 10:06:20 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"He might have some severe stress issues that made him do this, but if he got help from a shrink this could have been easily prevented.

Hard to say on either statement.  Not everyone can be helped.



Since his estranged-wife and her new boyfriend were the first targets, there was anger there.  Maybe she was about to get half his shit in the divorce, along with a sizable alimony payment?  Covid did shut down his practices also...  Divorces (and their outcomes) can get very ugly, and I'm willing to bet that had something to do with getting the wheel of destruction in motion.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Zetsu on April 21, 2020, 10:30:08 PM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Zetsu"He might have some severe stress issues that made him do this, but if he got help from a shrink this could have been easily prevented.

Hard to say on either statement.  Not everyone can be helped.



Since his estranged-wife and her new boyfriend were the first targets, there was anger there.  Maybe she was about to get half his shit in the divorce, along with a sizable alimony payment?  Covid did shut down his practices also...  Divorces (and their outcomes) can get very ugly, and I'm willing to bet that had something to do with getting the wheel of destruction in motion.


You do have a point there, lol I'd be pissed too if I was some wealthy guy and this person is about to get half of what she has never rightfully worked for.  I swear money can be so evil sometime, hence why I never run a business with any friends, only with family members that I can put up with or strangers I can feel no guilt when rejecting them.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 10:37:34 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"You do have a point there, lol I'd be pissed too if I was some wealthy guy and this person is about to get half of what she has never rightfully worked for.  I swear money can be so evil sometime, hence why I never run a business with any friends, only with family members that I can put up with or strangers I can feel no guilt when rejecting them.

Divorces can be brutal, and have led to many deaths...  It's one thing to split assets that both have worked towards, but the courts don't always calculate this very fairly.  Alimony is a bigger problem:  If my wife leaves me because she wants to ride someone else's cock, why should I have to pay her 40% of my income every month for years?  That just makes no sense...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 10:40:21 PM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Zetsu"You do have a point there, lol I'd be pissed too if I was some wealthy guy and this person is about to get half of what she has never rightfully worked for.  I swear money can be so evil sometime, hence why I never run a business with any friends, only with family members that I can put up with or strangers I can feel no guilt when rejecting them.

Divorces can be brutal, and have led to many deaths...  It's one thing to split assets that both have worked towards, but the courts don't always calculate this very fairly.  Alimony is a bigger problem:  If my wife leaves me because she wants to ride someone else's cock, why should I have to pay her 40% of my income every month for years?  That just makes no sense...

She would get $200 of your CERB.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 21, 2020, 10:40:42 PM
The alimony part is true.  Courts would seriously fuck the guy over.  I don't understand why courts do this to people? Sometimes, they go above and beyond and payments can be more than what they guys monthly income is...leaving him in even more debt and a high risk of suicide.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 21, 2020, 10:43:24 PM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Zetsu"You do have a point there, lol I'd be pissed too if I was some wealthy guy and this person is about to get half of what she has never rightfully worked for.  I swear money can be so evil sometime, hence why I never run a business with any friends, only with family members that I can put up with or strangers I can feel no guilt when rejecting them.

Divorces can be brutal, and have led to many deaths...  It's one thing to split assets that both have worked towards, but the courts don't always calculate this very fairly.  Alimony is a bigger problem:  If my wife leaves me because she wants to ride someone else's cock, why should I have to pay her 40% of my income every month for years?  That just makes no sense...




I believe alimont payments are for 2 years only...its only meant for the other person to get back on their feet...its not a lotto ticket.



I don't agree with divorces that call for alimony AND child support together....that's just way too much and unnecessary, its just selfish and greedy and the courts should know better than to screw people over like that.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 10:47:26 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"The alimony part is true.  Courts would seriously fuck the guy over.  I don't understand why courts do this to people? Sometimes, they go above and beyond and payments can be more than what they guys monthly income is...leaving him in even more debt and a high risk of suicide.

For some strange reason, the system enforces a belief that your standard of living must be upheld even if you leave husband no reason...  The more you make, the more the other party takes.



It's totally unfair.  Also, the wife always gets the kids too, so add in child support.  She often gets the matrimonial home also so you get tossed onto the streets while she rides Jamal's cock on your own bed...



No wonder the White male suicide rate is as high as it is...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 10:49:19 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"I believe alimont payments are for 2 years only...its only meant for the other person to get back on their feet...its not a lotto ticket.

Spousal support agreements or orders usually only last for a certain time. This time is usually based on how long you and your spouse were together.



Often, spousal support will last for between six months and one year for every year you were married or lived together. But if you were married for a long time and you're older when you separate, spousal support might not have an end date. The end date would be decided later, maybe after you (usually the payor) retire.



For example, if you were married or lived together for 15 years, you might get spousal support for 7½ to 15 years.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 10:51:03 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
She would get $200 of your CERB.

From my cold, dead hands...   :mad:
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 21, 2020, 10:57:27 PM
Did you, or are you still paying alimony? You were married a short while...how did that end up for you?
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 11:04:02 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"Did you, or are you still paying alimony? You were married a short while...how did that end up for you?

Our divorce was actually amiable, with no alimony issues.  She was earning almost as much as I was anyhow, so it wouldn't really have been an issue even if it had gone to court...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 21, 2020, 11:08:00 PM
You are lucky.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 11:14:10 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"You are lucky.

My situation is a little different now, and I would certainly demand a prenuptial agreement be in place for a significant other now...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2020, 11:20:59 PM
It may be heartless and cruel to demand one, but I don't want to become homeless just because Julie decides she wants to ride another guys cock...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2020, 01:37:53 AM
Shooter didn't have a firearms licence.  Whatever firearms he had (still not released at this time), he wasn't in legal possession of them.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2020, 09:26:00 AM
Quote from: "Mel"Shooter didn't have a firearms licence.  Whatever firearms he had (still not released at this time), he wasn't in legal possession of them.

New, legislation would not prevent another attack like this one..



Using the alert system might though.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2020, 03:47:16 PM
I think he was a Jew also.  While 'Wortman' can be a possible Jewish surname, Jewishness is almost 100% confirmed with first name of 'Gabriel'.



99% sure shooter was Jewey...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2020, 04:53:51 PM
Confirmed Jew.  A poster on a well known forum claims his Father remembers seeing shooter attend Synagogue a few years back...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 23, 2020, 04:57:17 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Mel"Shooter didn't have a firearms licence.  Whatever firearms he had (still not released at this time), he wasn't in legal possession of them.

New, legislation would not prevent another attack like this one..



Using the alert system might though.

Use of alerts may not totally prevent, but can at least give people a chance and can reduce damage done



It is correct that he had no gun licence
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 23, 2020, 05:08:27 PM
Let's get to the important stuff .. lol



While I don't consider Wiki as absolute ...  let's have some fun



"A poster on a well known forum" ??  ac_biggrin



a forum Mel hangs out in  :wink:



https://www.wikicelebs.com/gabriel-wortman/



While wiki says Christian, maybe he was otherwise  :laugh:
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2020, 05:09:30 PM
Think I've found the smoking gun...



https://www.thechronicleherald.ca/news/local/hammonds-plains-man-denied-bail-on-extremely-serious-firearms-allegations-439171/
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2020, 05:13:20 PM
Smoking gun:



A Hammonds Plains man accused of illegally possessing and firing several guns, including three high-calibre assault rifles that have not been recovered by police, has been denied bail.



Travis James Terry Laing, 29, was arrested April 9 following an RCMP investigation that began in early January after a report of someone erratically driving a white Ford Crown Victoria with a black hood and roof on Lucasville Road while waving an assault rifle out a window.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2020, 05:15:06 PM
Quote from: "cc"While I don't consider Wiki as absolute ...  let's have some fun



A poster on a well known forum ??  ac_biggrin



a forum Mel hangs out in  :wink:



https://www.wikicelebs.com/gabriel-wortman/



While wiki says Christian, maybe he was otherwise  :laugh:

Ya, because Christians are always spotted attending synagogue...   :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2020, 05:24:14 PM
Oh shit, now it's starting in Chilliwack too!   ac_unsure



Police warn of 'unfolding incident' involving pickup truck driver with firearms.



https://bc.ctvnews.ca/mobile/police-warn-of-unfolding-incident-involving-pickup-truck-driver-with-firearms-1.4909116
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2020, 05:31:35 PM
Quote from: "Mel"Oh shit, now it's starting in Chilliwack too!   ac_unsure



Police warn of 'unfolding incident' involving pickup truck driver with firearms.



https://bc.ctvnews.ca/mobile/police-warn-of-unfolding-incident-involving-pickup-truck-driver-with-firearms-1.4909116

 :ohmy:
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2020, 05:33:03 PM
Society is crumbling!   :pop:





VANCOUVER -- Mounties in Chilliwack are warning members of the public to call 911 if they see a grey Toyota Tacoma pickup truck with B.C. licence plate PA558R.



According to Chilliwack RCMP, the driver of the vehicle "is known to be in possession of firearms and his intention is unknown at this time."



Asked for more detail, police would only say that both they and the driver's family are concerned for his wellbeing.



The truck has a canopy and was last seen in the south end of Columbia Valley, according to an RCMP release. Anyone in that area is asked to "exercise caution" as Mounties respond to what they're calling "an unfolding police incident."
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Odinson on April 23, 2020, 05:37:14 PM
Wortman.. Jew name...



Dentist... Jew profession.





All his victims were germans..









Melskie is shaking in his lederhosen.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2020, 05:39:28 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"Wortman.. Jew name...



Dentist... Jew profession.





All his victims were germans..









Melskie is shaking in his lederhosen.

He's not Jewish and he's not a dentist....he's a denturist..



It's a technician level job..
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2020, 06:11:42 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"He's not Jewish and he's not a dentist....

(((Gabriel)))
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Odinson on April 23, 2020, 06:21:58 PM
Wortman isnt as jewey as Wortberg.. Or Wortwiz.



But google says its a jew name.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2020, 07:58:24 PM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Fashionista"He's not Jewish and he's not a dentist....

(((Gabriel)))

Not only Ashkenazi Jews have names like Adam, David, Daniel and Gabriel.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2020, 08:01:31 PM
One + One seems to equal Jew though...  Having both Jewish first and last names?  Although to be honest, he doesn't really look too Jewey.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 23, 2020, 08:15:52 PM
I don't look jewish at all, yet I go to the synagogue  twice a day in any weather



 ac_biggrin



I even set my alarm for 3 am so that I can make sure candles are going



Need alarm as my evening Manochevits makes me sleepy
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2020, 08:49:20 PM
Quote from: "cc"I don't look jewish at all, yet I go to the synagogue  twice a day in any weather



 ac_biggrin



I even set my alarm for 3 am so that I can make sure candles are going



Need alarm as my evening Manochevits makes me sleepy

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 24, 2020, 03:08:13 PM
Fashionista and CC would make excuses for a Jewish baby rapist given half the chance...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 24, 2020, 04:04:30 PM
Another active shooter in Halifax area now...   :2r4ml1j_th:



Emergency alert issued after reports of shots fired in 2 Halifax-area communities.  Police asking residents to stay inside, multiple stores close down.



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/rcmp-respond-to-possible-shots-fired-in-hammonds-plains-1.5544137
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 24, 2020, 04:37:45 PM
Quote from: "Guest"Fashionista and CC would make excuses for a Jewish baby rapist given half the chance...

You are one disturbed individual SCOUSE..



Seek immediate help....you desperately need it.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 24, 2020, 05:46:53 PM
Quote from: "Nasty  Piece of Work"Fashionista and CC would make excuses for a Jewish baby rapist given half the chance...

That's disrespectful... Smarten up nazi wannabe kra-t



 Fash took your side and defended you for a long while against us badies



until she realized you were a nasty kook as you showed your true colors



PS. Will not get help or change - He actually thinks he's a normal regular bloke  :sad:
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 24, 2020, 05:51:59 PM
Quote from: "Mel"Another active shooter in Halifax area now...   :2r4ml1j_th:



Emergency alert issued after reports of shots fired in 2 Halifax-area communities.  Police asking residents to stay inside, multiple stores close down.



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/rcmp-respond-to-possible-shots-fired-in-hammonds-plains-1.5544137


Quote: "RCMP say no evidence of shots fired after Halifax-area reports prompt emergency alert"



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/rcmp-respond-to-possible-shots-fired-in-hammonds-plains-1.5544137



Oh, ..................... it's a  mel  post :roll:
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 24, 2020, 06:03:14 PM
Some of N.S. gunman's weapons came from U.S., police say



RCMP investigators say Gabriel Wortman used handgun, long guns in mass shooting that claimed 22 lives



Wortman's residence in Portapique, N.S., where the 13-hour shooting rampage began Saturday night, has been "completely burned to the ground."



WOW .. Fortunate the gf got untied and escaped the houss - obviously he attempted to burn her to death



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/investigation-firearms-ns-shooting-1.5544180
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 24, 2020, 06:18:03 PM
Quote from: "cc"Oh, ..................... it's a  mel  post :roll:

They changed the story.  It was probably just a car backfiring, but initially they closed businesses and actually managed to send people a warning via cell phone.  I'm guessing people there are still a bit on edge...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 24, 2020, 06:35:10 PM
They sure cannot be faulted for being edgy  .. in fact,  this was not the only case of false alarms from the area
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 24, 2020, 07:51:33 PM
Quote from: "Guest"Fashionista and CC would make excuses for a Jewish baby rapist given half the chance...

The shooter might be a nazi sympathizer.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 24, 2020, 08:01:34 PM
Bump to bury really dumb porn in previous thread
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 24, 2020, 08:04:24 PM
Quote from: "cc"Bump to bury really dumb porn in previous thread




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Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 24, 2020, 08:15:54 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"Fashionista and CC would make excuses for a Jewish baby rapist given half the chance...

The shooter might be a nazi sympathizer.

He might be a shriner and like curling too.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 24, 2020, 09:26:39 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"He might be a shriner and like curling too.

Possibly.  I couldn't really find much in the way of any online presence posted under his name...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 24, 2020, 10:06:25 PM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Fashionista"He might be a shriner and like curling too.

Possibly.  I couldn't really find much in the way of any online presence posted under his name...
He was a white guy with a gun and murdered more people in Canada than ever before. Mel's heritage
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 24, 2020, 10:56:15 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"Fashionista and CC would make excuses for a Jewish baby rapist given half the chance...

The shooter might be a nazi sympathizer.

You mean this.



https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/939xwy/neonazis-and-conspiracy-theorists-are-seizing-upon-the-nova-scotia-shooting

Neo-Nazis and Conspiracy Theorists Are Seizing Upon the Nova Scotia Shooting

Despite zero evidence linking the Nova Scotia shooter to any groups or political beliefs, extremists are co-opting the horrific attack for their own means.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 24, 2020, 11:03:51 PM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"Fashionista and CC would make excuses for a Jewish baby rapist given half the chance...

The shooter might be a nazi sympathizer.

You mean this.



https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/939xwy/neonazis-and-conspiracy-theorists-are-seizing-upon-the-nova-scotia-shooting

Neo-Nazis and Conspiracy Theorists Are Seizing Upon the Nova Scotia Shooting

Despite zero evidence linking the Nova Scotia shooter to any groups or political beliefs, extremists are co-opting the horrific attack for their own means.


He was a white boy with a gun shooting people for fun. No other race to blame this one on, Herman.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 24, 2020, 11:05:46 PM
Quote from: "guest"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"Fashionista and CC would make excuses for a Jewish baby rapist given half the chance...

The shooter might be a nazi sympathizer.

You mean this.



https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/939xwy/neonazis-and-conspiracy-theorists-are-seizing-upon-the-nova-scotia-shooting

Neo-Nazis and Conspiracy Theorists Are Seizing Upon the Nova Scotia Shooting

Despite zero evidence linking the Nova Scotia shooter to any groups or political beliefs, extremists are co-opting the horrific attack for their own means.


He was a white boy with a gun shooting people for fun. No other race to blame this one on, Herman.

I agree and I aint blaming it on any frickin race.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2020, 12:36:16 AM
Quote from: "guest"He was a white guy with a gun and murdered more people in Canada than ever before. Mel's heritage

Your point being?
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2020, 04:21:11 AM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "guest"He was a white guy with a gun and murdered more people in Canada than ever before. Mel's heritage

Your point being?

You're a white guy with guns who's made it plain you don't like people unless they're white skin colored, Mel
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2020, 05:06:05 AM
Quote from: "guest"You're a white guy with guns who's made it plain you don't like people unless they're white skin colored, Mel

So, what's your point exactly?
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2020, 05:19:03 AM
Do you even have a point to make?



I don't hate people...  If I did, I wouldn't post on a board run by a Chink, moderated by a cross-dressing Texan, caters to an elderly Jewish woman, and has the balls to remove my thread containing serious Aboriginal Australian Didgeridoo artwork!
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 25, 2020, 05:23:57 AM
Play nice now, children....
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2020, 05:25:43 AM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"Play nice now, children....

You've lived here, Berry...



What do you prefer as best?  Coast, or Koots?
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 25, 2020, 05:41:43 AM
I like both.



I would like to move out of the city one day.  It may happen one day.  I wouldnt mind 2 acres of land with a small cabin like home and a garden.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2020, 05:49:07 AM
I find the people here are different, in a good way...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Cronus on April 25, 2020, 05:50:54 AM
Quote from: "Mel"Do you even have a point to make?



I don't hate people...  If I did, I wouldn't post on a board run by a Chink, moderated by a cross-dressing Texan, caters to an elderly Jewish woman, and has the balls to remove my thread containing serious Aboriginal Australian Didgeridoo artwork!

Your thread was moved to the proper sub. It's there for everyone here to see. Well, except those that prefer not to have access to "The Gutter".
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2020, 05:57:22 AM
Quote from: "Cronus"Your thread was moved to the proper sub. It's there for everyone here to see. Well, except those that prefer not to have access to "The Gutter".

You're assuming that I can log in like regular people can!



I cannot!   :laugh:
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Cronus on April 25, 2020, 06:09:02 AM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Cronus"Your thread was moved to the proper sub. It's there for everyone here to see. Well, except those that prefer not to have access to "The Gutter".

You're assuming that I can log in like regular people can!



I cannot!   :laugh:

 :laugh:

Nah, I don't assume that at all. I am perfectly aware that guests cannot post or view that sub.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2020, 06:12:45 AM
Quote from: "Cronus"
Nah, I don't assume that at all. I am perfectly aware that guests cannot post or view that sub.

Good!  Then you continue to cross-dress, hassle me, and post!
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2020, 11:36:34 AM
Quote from: "Mel"Do you even have a point to make?



I don't hate people...  If I did, I wouldn't post on a board run by a Chink, moderated by a cross-dressing Texan, caters to an elderly Jewish woman, and has the balls to remove my thread containing serious Aboriginal Australian Didgeridoo artwork!

I'm Taiwanese.

 ac_sothere
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2020, 11:53:43 AM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"Fashionista and CC would make excuses for a Jewish baby rapist given half the chance...

The shooter might be a nazi sympathizer.

You mean this.



https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/939xwy/neonazis-and-conspiracy-theorists-are-seizing-upon-the-nova-scotia-shooting

Neo-Nazis and Conspiracy Theorists Are Seizing Upon the Nova Scotia Shooting

Despite zero evidence linking the Nova Scotia shooter to any groups or political beliefs, extremists are co-opting the horrific attack for their own means.


So a Jew goes on a shooting spree and the far left leaning monstrosity otherwise known as Vice posts an article scaremongering about the neo-Nazi boogeyman......



How very Jewish, oyy vey!
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Gaon on April 25, 2020, 11:58:42 AM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"Fashionista and CC would make excuses for a Jewish baby rapist given half the chance...

The shooter might be a nazi sympathizer.

You mean this.



https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/939xwy/neonazis-and-conspiracy-theorists-are-seizing-upon-the-nova-scotia-shooting

Neo-Nazis and Conspiracy Theorists Are Seizing Upon the Nova Scotia Shooting

Despite zero evidence linking the Nova Scotia shooter to any groups or political beliefs, extremists are co-opting the horrific attack for their own means.

I read that guy may have been a neo-nazi, a paramilitary survivalist, and an anti-government sovereign citizen. We may not have answers to any of these questions for a long time.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2020, 12:15:42 PM
Quote from: "Mel"Do you even have a point to make?



I don't hate people...  If I did, I wouldn't post on a board run by a Chink, moderated by a cross-dressing Texan, caters to an elderly Jewish woman, and has the balls to remove my thread containing serious Aboriginal Australian Didgeridoo artwork!


Is CC still denying that she's Jewish?  :roll:
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2020, 12:35:05 PM
Hey mental case, there are only a handful of Jews in NS. Wortman is not even a Jewish name. He is of German descent just like cc and like you wish you were.



This maniac flew the American flag, was denied a PAL because of criminal conviction. Here is what else we know about him.



The Nova Scotia shooting occurred on April 19, anniversary to several other notable massacres:



The Oklahoma bombing in 1995

The Waco siege in 1993

Just one day before the 1999 Columbine High School shooting anniversary



Coincidence? He was a disturbed clown just like you Scouse. The big difference being that he gave the outward appearance of being successful. He did not live in council flats with his ma who sucks paki cock to make ends meet.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2020, 12:51:53 PM
Quote from: "Well Duh"Hey mental case, there are only a handful of Jews in NS. Wortman is not even a Jewish name. He is of German descent just like cc and like you wish you were.



This maniac flew the American flag, was denied a PAL because of criminal conviction. Here is what else we know about him.



The Nova Scotia shooting occurred on April 19, anniversary to several other notable massacres:



The Oklahoma bombing in 1995

The Waco siege in 1993

Just one day before the 1999 Columbine High School shooting anniversary



Coincidence? He was a disturbed clown just like you Scouse. The big difference being that he gave the outward appearance of being successful. He did not live in council flats with his ma who sucks paki cock to make ends meet.

Whatever, Scouse is a schizo. We can always step over his repetitive paranoid ramblings.



But, I say this denturist is a some sort of far right anti government type. He has no social media footprint ,s so we have to dig deeper. Lots of clues from what we know of his past to support that belief.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2020, 12:59:15 PM
I can think we can see hints of future mental problems in his grade twelve yearbook.

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Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2020, 02:12:01 PM
Quote from: "Well Duh"Hey mental case, there are only a handful of Jews in NS. Wortman is not even a Jewish name. He is of German descent just like cc and like you wish you were.



This maniac flew the American flag, was denied a PAL because of criminal conviction. Here is what else we know about him.



The Nova Scotia shooting occurred on April 19, anniversary to several other notable massacres:



The Oklahoma bombing in 1995

The Waco siege in 1993

Just one day before the 1999 Columbine High School shooting anniversary



Coincidence? He was a disturbed clown just like you Scouse. The big difference being that he gave the outward appearance of being successful. He did not live in council flats with his ma who sucks paki cock to make ends meet.


Hey Seoulcuck, I know you're a shameless beta male who had the misfortune of being born without a penis and with less testosterone than a 5 year old girl, but couldn't you at least pretend to be a man, as opposed to a whiny little fag?



(((Gabriel Wortman))) is not a Jewish name and anyone of German ancestry cannot be Jewish! Thankyou for those pearls of wisdom you absolute cretin, now kindly go and kill yourself, cheers.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2020, 04:14:21 PM
Quote from: "Herman"I can think we can see hints of future mental problems in his grade twelve yearbook.

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That explains a lot. He was able to hide his mental problems, but obviously not well enough to pass RCMP screening.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2020, 05:54:50 PM
Quote from: "Guest"Is CC still denying that she's Jewish?  :roll:

I'm afraid she will right up until the very end, when her mourners light the yahrtzeit candle in her memory...   :sad:
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2020, 08:55:58 PM
Quote from: "Herman"I can think we can see hints of future mental problems in his grade twelve yearbook.

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He looked like a girl. Maybe his lunacy is the result of him never getting over being teased as an adolescent for being effeminate. Perhaps Scouse too was an androgynous youth. ac_umm
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 26, 2020, 02:10:19 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Herman"I can think we can see hints of future mental problems in his grade twelve yearbook.

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He looked like girl. Maybe his lunacy is the result of him never getting over being teased as an adolescent for being effeminate. Perhaps Scouse too was an androgynous youth. ac_umm


Fella, you don't even have a penis.   ac_toofunny
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 26, 2020, 03:17:04 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Herman"I can think we can see hints of future mental problems in his grade twelve yearbook.

(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://faithgoldy.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/EWBHpwsXYAYYoyj-768x1024.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://faithgoldy.ca/wp-content/upload%20...%208x1024.jpg%22%3Ehttps://faithgoldy.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/EWBHpwsXYAYYoyj-768x1024.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)

He looked like girl. Maybe his lunacy is the result of him never getting over being teased as an adolescent for being effeminate. Perhaps Scouse too was an androgynous youth. ac_umm

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 05:30:33 AM
Quote from: "seoulbro"He looked like a girl. Maybe his lunacy is the result of him never getting over being teased as an adolescent for being effeminate. Perhaps Scouse too was an androgynous youth. ac_umm

I know it's always easy to joke, in hindsight, but you probably wouldn't have wanted to tell that joke with Wortman a couple months back, especially if you happened to lived anywhere near him...



The fact is, he looked just like any other dude in 1980's high school...  Well, most of them anyhow.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 08:38:12 AM
Seoulcuck is the kind of 'man' who gets bullied by random kids in the street and is terrified of any sort of confrontation, betas like him are an embarrassment to the male species.



I heard he got hospitalised by some teenage girls a few years ago.   ac_lmfao
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Cronus on April 27, 2020, 10:11:19 AM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
He looked like a girl. Maybe his lunacy is the result of him never getting over being teased as an adolescent for being effeminate. Perhaps Scouse too was an androgynous youth. ac_umm

Lame Scouse, pretty much used the same insult he did. Then, not having the intelligence to be creative in your insults, you resort to using private information you learned about when we thought you were a decent person and allowed you into a restricted area. Obviously we made a huge error. Seems you are the true beta since a true alpha would not have to resort to PI.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 10:28:44 AM
Quote from: "Cronus"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
He looked like a girl. Maybe his lunacy is the result of him never getting over being teased as an adolescent for being effeminate. Perhaps Scouse too was an androgynous youth. ac_umm

Lame Scouse, pretty much used the same insult he did. Then, not having the intelligence to be creative in your insults, you resort to using private information you learned about when we thought you were a decent person and allowed you into a restricted area. Obviously we made a huge error. Seems you are the true beta since a true alpha would not have to resort to PI.

PI dumping is the first refuge of the worst posters and the most petty thin skinned crybabies. And they don't get much more petty and thin skinned than the beta nazi Peter pan. Well, except for Joe.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 27, 2020, 11:02:22 AM
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Guest"Is CC still denying that she's Jewish?  

I'm afraid she will right up until the very end, when her mourners light the yahrtzeit candle in her memory...   :sad:

Have I ever denied? Don't recall doing so. Cite or STFU



You lame girly men are too weak to post real comebacks so make up  ad homs to save yourselves
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 11:06:25 AM
Quote from: "Cronus"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
He looked like a girl. Maybe his lunacy is the result of him never getting over being teased as an adolescent for being effeminate. Perhaps Scouse too was an androgynous youth. ac_umm

Lame Scouse, pretty much used the same insult he did. Then, not having the intelligence to be creative in your insults, you resort to using private information you learned about when we thought you were a decent person and allowed you into a restricted area. Obviously we made a huge error. Seems you are the true beta since a true alpha would not have to resort to PI.


Like any of you fuckwits deserve to be treated like decent people ffs.... bunch of cliquey, vindictive, passive aggressive hypocrites.



Funny how Seamajor's Facebook page wasn't regarded as PI when it was regularly past around for trolling purposes, but then again he's not one of the protected on here is he?
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 11:07:15 AM
Quote from: "cc"
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Guest"Is CC still denying that she's Jewish?  

I'm afraid she will right up until the very end, when her mourners light the yahrtzeit candle in her memory...   :sad:

Have I ever denied? Don't recall doing so. Cite or STFU



You lame girly men can't post without making making up stuff

I'm the one who denies you are Jewish.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 27, 2020, 11:10:34 AM
I think that' s true :wink: ^^


QuoteLike any of you fuckwits deserve to be treated like decent people ffs.... bunch of cliquey, vindictive, passive aggressive hypocrites.



Funny how Seamajor's Facebook page wasn't regarded as PI when it was regularly past around for trolling purposes, but then again he's not one of the protected on here is he?

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa



Oh no's ... a Lame Girly man gossip invasion  :laugh:
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 11:17:48 AM
Quote from: "cc"I think that' s true :wink: ^^


QuoteLike any of you fuckwits deserve to be treated like decent people ffs.... bunch of cliquey, vindictive, passive aggressive hypocrites.



Funny how Seamajor's Facebook page wasn't regarded as PI when it was regularly past around for trolling purposes, but then again he's not one of the protected on here is he?

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa



Oh no's ... a Lame Girly man invasion  :laugh:

Very true cc..



And as everyone knows, Seamajor posted a link to his FB account back when Herman was a mod..



Seoul was the first person to notice it and it was edited out of course..



Now we all know that Seamjor is slow, but I find it hard to believe he didn't know what he was doing..



I didn't see it, but apparently all it was was the same twenty five year old pictures of himself that he posts over and over again.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 27, 2020, 11:18:47 AM
:laugh:
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 11:19:34 AM
Quote from: "cc"
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Guest"Is CC still denying that she's Jewish?  

I'm afraid she will right up until the very end, when her mourners light the yahrtzeit candle in her memory...   :sad:

Have I ever denied? Don't recall doing so. Cite or STFU



You lame girly men are too weak to post real comebacks so make up  ad homs to save yourselves


You're kidding right? I know that being deliberately obtuse has always been your schtick, but anyone who has been around these forums for longer than 5 minutes knows that you descend into a hysterical ragefit whenever the Jew accusations surface...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 27, 2020, 11:20:48 AM
Oh no's .. a lame girly man invasion :roll:



Real men cite or STFU



Then we are not talking real men here
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 11:23:00 AM
Quote from: "cc":laugh:

Seamajor had to have posted that so he could milk it for tears later..



Nobody could be that stupid..



And he is a cross forum drama girl like Joe and Scouse.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 27, 2020, 11:27:56 AM
Semen,  Joe and the wannabe nazi ... 3 girly men in a boat



I hope they don't splash with the oars and put my candles out  :ohmy:
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 11:29:37 AM
I don't know what's more irritating, CC's ninja edits or Fashionista's low IQ level....
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 27, 2020, 11:31:11 AM
Really out of ammo now .. not even a good ad hom left to use



So sad to witness :sad:
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 11:49:42 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "cc"I think that' s true :wink: ^^


QuoteLike any of you fuckwits deserve to be treated like decent people ffs.... bunch of cliquey, vindictive, passive aggressive hypocrites.



Funny how Seamajor's Facebook page wasn't regarded as PI when it was regularly past around for trolling purposes, but then again he's not one of the protected on here is he?

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa



Oh no's ... a Lame Girly man invasion  :laugh:

Very true cc..



And as everyone knows, Seamajor posted a link to his FB account back when Herman was a mod..



Seoul was the first person to notice it and it was edited out of course..



Now we all know that Seamjor is slow, but I find it hard to believe he didn't know what he was doing..



I didn't see it, but apparently all it was was the same twenty five year old pictures of himself that he posts over and over again.

Seamoron is incapable of a cogent thought. But, he also has a mangina like Scouse and Joe. So yes, of course he posted his fb on purpose.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 01:28:43 PM
Says the cockless cuck who lives under a skirt...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 01:50:04 PM
Quote from: "Guest"Says the cockless cuck who lives under a skirt...

Translation: I know you are, but what am I. Good one Scouse. Now there is solid proof you aint a beta crybaby like everyone says you are.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 27, 2020, 02:32:28 PM
QuoteNow there is solid proof you aint a beta crybaby like everyone says you are.

 :2r4ml1j_th:



Uh Uh .. Not a chance



I'm beginning to suspect the established beta crybaby is one of us jews, trying to hide it behind a nazi uniform  :wink:
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 03:27:00 PM
Quote from: "cc"
QuoteNow there is solid proof you aint a beta crybaby like everyone says you are.

 :2r4ml1j_th:



Uh Uh .. Not a chance



I'm beginning to suspect the established beta crybaby is one of us jews, trying to hide it behind a nazi uniform  :wink:

He is not bright enough to be part of your tribe.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 27, 2020, 03:40:38 PM
QuoteHe is not bright enough to be part of your tribe.

Fair point. It's universally accepted that "We" jews  are exceptionally  smart



 many times more so than yer regular nazi slug
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 27, 2020, 04:06:52 PM
I am beginning to appreciate this section. It gives us a chance to laff @ the clowns performing for us



without disturbing the main / serious area



A fun break from discussing serious things with  serious and real people



A real win / win  :yahoo:
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: cc on April 27, 2020, 04:33:43 PM
Nothin hapinin for a while  .. I guess it's Stormfront time .. and searching for new material for our clown crew
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 05:54:50 PM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Guest"Says the cockless cuck who lives under a skirt...

Translation: I know you are, but what am I. Good one Scouse. Now there is solid proof you aint a beta crybaby like everyone says you are.


By 'everyone' you mean 3 or 4 elderly hermits on this sorry excuse of a forum.....



You clowns would literally have nothing to talk about if it wasn't for the half a dozen people you've been incessantly whining about for the last 5 years.



Its like a constant geriatric circle jerk. Cringe...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 06:02:29 PM
Quote from: "cc"
QuoteHe is not bright enough to be part of your tribe.

Fair point. It's universally accepted that "We" jews  are exceptionally  smart



 many times more so than yer regular nazi slug


Well you're certainly no genius, the smart Jew stereotype has been exaggerated a lot over the years.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Berry Sweet on April 27, 2020, 08:31:08 PM
Anyone got an update about the NS mental case?
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 09:03:47 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"Anyone got an update about the NS mental case?

Still a lot the RCMP won't reveal.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 09:09:15 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Guest"Says the cockless cuck who lives under a skirt...

Translation: I know you are, but what am I. Good one Scouse. Now there is solid proof you aint a beta crybaby like everyone says you are.


By 'everyone' you mean 3 or 4 elderly hermits on this sorry excuse of a forum.....



You clowns would literally have nothing to talk about if it wasn't for the half a dozen people you've been incessantly whining about for the last 5 years.



Its like a constant geriatric circle jerk. Cringe...

You are our only elderly hermit we have since we sent you and your fellow senior incels Joe, and Seamoron to evs' long term care facility. You three are bad for business. Nothing personal.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2020, 11:38:49 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Guest"Says the cockless cuck who lives under a skirt...

Translation: I know you are, but what am I. Good one Scouse. Now there is solid proof you aint a beta crybaby like everyone says you are.


By 'everyone' you mean 3 or 4 elderly hermits on this sorry excuse of a forum.....



You clowns would literally have nothing to talk about if it wasn't for the half a dozen people you've been incessantly whining about for the last 5 years.



Its like a constant geriatric circle jerk. Cringe...

You are our only elderly hermit we have since we sent you and your fellow senior incels Joe, and Seamoron to evs' long term care facility. You three are bad for business. Nothing personal.

That old evs has a soft spot for dysfunctioal old men in addition to three elderly stooges you mentioned she also has soon and Edweird in her care. Than again she is. messed up herself.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2020, 02:38:21 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Mel"Oh shit, now it's starting in Chilliwack too!   ac_unsure



Police warn of 'unfolding incident' involving pickup truck driver with firearms.



https://bc.ctvnews.ca/mobile/police-warn-of-unfolding-incident-involving-pickup-truck-driver-with-firearms-1.4909116

 :ohmy:

I should now add, that he was found dead with a self inflicted gunshot wound...
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2020, 04:35:41 AM
Quote from: "cc"I am beginning to appreciate this section. It gives us a chance to laff @ the clowns performing for us


 ac_smile
Title: Re: Nova Scotia Massacre 10 dead
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2020, 07:15:55 AM
Quote from: "cc"I am beginning to appreciate this section. It gives us a chance to laff @ the clowns performing for us

That's what it's here for cc.

 ac_biggrin