Old Dove posted this at SG. I do not know where I stand on the lock down, but my boy and his pregnant girlfriend do not want it.
lot of people think if you set foot outside you are gonna die and kill ten people. Unless you are just buying beer and lotto tickets.
They are gonna have to see for themselves the bigger crisis on the horizon.
Its like.....shooting yourself in the face over a broken toe. But you cannot communicate to priviledged people.
Wait until they find out magic fairies are not restocking the grocery stores.
It's much better to die by suicide, medical neglect and poverty than to risk catching the Rona with that whole vast majority who catch it will be fine thing.
Better to lose your job, close your business, live on life savings and lose your retirement and everything you've worked for than to risk a dry cough.
I know I'm glad the government is forcing people into poverty so I dont have a bad 7 days! Woot!
I'm starting to question the total lock down response to the pandemic.
I met up with a friend at Granville Island earlier. Did not maintain a 2m distance. Good bubblegum flavor ice cream.
Here's how a gradual reopening of Canada could happen.
-An aggressive system of mass rapid testing for all those with symptoms and their recent contacts, and approve innovative technologies quickly to test for previous exposure and immunity.
-Domestically sourcing and producing the masks, PPE and medicines needed to prevent shortages.
-While safeguarding the data privacy of Canadians, deploy technology to rapidly identify those who have been in contact with anyone diagnosed with COVID-19 and a system for ensuring that they quarantine until they are tested and cleared.
-Procedures for screening and mandatory quarantining of all those who arrive in Canada.
-Distribute masks in places where crowding is hard to avoid like transit and require people to wear them.
-Industry-specific health and safety rules that allow businesses to reopen in ways that minimize risks.
-Community-specific plans to allow regions where there are very low or no rates of infection to reopen faster while limiting movement to keep those communities virus-free.
-Continue to promote working from home where possible, but allow a phased reopening of industries that can implement health and safety protocols and limit gatherings of people.
-A gradual easing of rules and guidelines to allow people to physically distance without being socially isolated. This could start, for example, by reopening parks and walking trails, and allowing a slow increase in gathering sizes over time.
-We must protect our veterans, the elderly, and vulnerable people in care homes without cutting them off from family and community.
Communication technology can be deployed to care homes to help maintain physical distancing without socially isolating vulnerable people.
People will not listen. They want their bars and stupid stuff.
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People will not listen. They want their bars and stupid stuff.
That's not possible. You have to take your face mask off at restaurants and bars to eat and drink. The dishes and cups will need to be disinfected thoroughly. The counters and tables will need to be disinfected every few mins.
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People will not listen. They want their bars and stupid stuff.
That's not possible. You have to take your face mask off at restaurants and bars to eat and drink. The dishes and cups will need to be disinfected thoroughly. The counters and tables will need to be disinfected every few mins.
I used to be a waitress..
Glasses, plates and cutlery have always been washed after each use anyway..
And tables were cleaned after each customer left.
I know, but this is how stupid people are. People think in a couple weeks, all this is going to go back to normal.
I too also question this lockdown.
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I know, but this is how stupid people are. People think in a couple weeks, all this is going to go back to normal.
I too also question this lockdown.
I think most people understand it will be phased in. I think they know by now there will be a second wave, probably in the fall.
Could be wave starts very shortly after things open up and people are exposed
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Could be wave starts very shortly after things open up and people are exposed
That is what concerns me and this is why social distancing in every business must still be the norm. We can't afford another lock down. If we can hold it off until fall, hopefully we have better treatments and antibodies testing by then.
It's only distancing that has kept numbers in any kind of check .. without it numbers would be astronomical and hospitals overrun weeks ago
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It's only distancing that has kept numbers in any kind of check .. without it numbers would be astronomical and hospitals overrun weeks ago
Any reopening anywhere will involve social distancing, sanitizer and masks.
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It's only distancing that has kept numbers in any kind of check .. without it numbers would be astronomical and hospitals overrun weeks ago
Any reopening anywhere will involve social distancing, sanitizer and masks.
Maybe we should have did that instead of the long term damage we have caused with this lock down.
I'm happy with my $2,000/month welly cheque to sit at home for the time being, to be quite honest! :laugh:
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People will not listen. They want their bars and stupid stuff.
Do you have current news programs that interview the public giving the audience ideas how to make good use of lockdowns?
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It's only distancing that has kept numbers in any kind of check .. without it numbers would be astronomical and hospitals overrun weeks ago
Any reopening anywhere will involve social distancing, sanitizer and masks.
Maybe we should have did that instead of the long term damage we have caused with this lock down.
And the worst part of it is, there will be another lock down if the number of people catching it starts to rise again.
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It's only distancing that has kept numbers in any kind of check .. without it numbers would be astronomical and hospitals overrun weeks ago
Any reopening anywhere will involve social distancing, sanitizer and masks.
Maybe we should have did that instead of the long term damage we have caused with this lock down.
And the worst part of it is, there will be another lock down if the number of people catching it starts to rise again.
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We cannot afford another eight week lock down. This has to work or we need treatments ASAP.
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Looking at some of the latest COVID numbers paints a very different picture from what we've been told.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opcfcqh7tqk
If you think this lock down it tough, you aren't going to like a second one and they predict a second one if we give in too early.
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Looking at some of the latest COVID numbers paints a very different picture from what we've been told.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opcfcqh7tqk
Instead of watching deadshits speak about something they have no clue about, you should be listening to the recovered victims who tell about the excruciating pain they had and how they were close to death but for their front line saviours.
And listening to survivors is going to tell me how many people have had the virus unknowingly and how that fact lowers the death rate quite measurably? Whatever.
Besides, I talk every day with someone that has the virus and I know very well how bad they feel and how painful it is. Not only that, but I imagine knowing that can ease some of the fears of those that have it now. Especially those of us in the high risk zones....like you and me.
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Looking at some of the latest COVID numbers paints a very different picture from what we've been told.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opcfcqh7tqk
Instead of watching deadshits speak about something they have no clue about, you should be listening to the recovered victims who tell about the excruciating pain they had and how they were close to death but for their front line saviours.
No thanks, that's the sorts of stuff those boring, stodgy old dinosaur media outlets keep pushing. In between going to the local hair salon during a lockdown because looking good for the TV cameras is considered an essential service.
You watch the people who want to reminisce about the lung junket they barfed up if you like. I'd rather pay closer attention to the people who have and have had it and are doing just fine. Well, if you call climbing the walls due to quarantine restrictions like the rest of us are effectively doing is fine. Losing liquidity while the big businesses dip into the public purse in preparation to buy up everything, just like the banks did 12 years ago. Thanks Obama.
I'm with Herman. This shit needs to stop and we all take our chances. The lockdown is akin to shooting a cannon to kill a fly. We should let it burn through the population and snuff itself out.
But pharma and other big business have other plans. Exhibit A...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWPo64BN-Uc
And you thought that herpes outbreak on your lip five years ago was bad Caskur. :laugh: Take a long hard look... that is what your leaders have planned for the human race.
This lock down is really doing a number on working people and the businesses that employ them. Perhaps a total lock down was not the best response to the pandemic.
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This lock down is really doing a number on working people and the businesses that employ them. Perhaps a total lock down was not the best response to the pandemic.
We will never truly know.
It doesn't matter though, regardless of the direction taken...it will always be Trumps fault. LOL
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This lock down is really doing a number on working people and the businesses that employ them. Perhaps a total lock down was not the best response to the pandemic.
We will never truly know.
It doesn't matter though, regardless of the direction taken...it will always be Trumps fault. LOL
Of course.
Then again, there's some that like to sit back and watch the world burn! :laugh:
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Then again, there's some that like to sit back and watch the world burn! :laugh:
They're extremely rare..
Most people want a future..
The longer this lock down goes on, the less likely there will be one.
There are business's that have started back to work here in Texas. Just bought a new aluminum trailer for the boat. Son paid for it today. Delivery day is June 2. They went back to work last week and they have a backlog.
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There are business's that have started back to work here in Texas. Just bought a new aluminum trailer for the boat. Son paid for it today. Delivery day is June 2. They went back to work last week and they have a backlog.
Terrific kiebers.
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There are business's that have started back to work here in Texas. Just bought a new aluminum trailer for the boat. Son paid for it today. Delivery day is June 2. They went back to work last week and they have a backlog.
I don't think business like that ever shut down here, provided they could maintain 'social distancing'...
I'll be honest... I don't mind bumming around on the Trudybucks welfare cheques that get now get deposited into my account! I could live like this for quite some time! Bumming around the yard and house, taking care of tasks here and there... Almost like I'm retired! :laugh:
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There are business's that have started back to work here in Texas. Just bought a new aluminum trailer for the boat. Son paid for it today. Delivery day is June 2. They went back to work last week and they have a backlog.
Terrific kiebers.
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I know...terrific he paid for it.
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There are business's that have started back to work here in Texas. Just bought a new aluminum trailer for the boat. Son paid for it today. Delivery day is June 2. They went back to work last week and they have a backlog.
I don't think business like that ever shut down here, provided they could maintain 'social distancing'...
This one actually did. It should have been ordered a few weeks ago. Now it is cutting it close to vacation week and the motor still needs to be worked on. Hopefully we can still get it done in time to take with us.
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This one actually did. It should have been ordered a few weeks ago. Now it is cutting it close to vacation week and the motor still needs to be worked on. Hopefully we can still get it done in time to take with us.
Here, anything dealing with transportation of any sort is deemed an essential service... All shops are open. Even bicycle shops!
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Then again, there's some that like to sit back and watch the world burn! :laugh:
They're extremely rare..
Most people want a future..
The longer this lock down goes on, the less likely there will be one.
I just hope that some people have learned patience and respect during this time.
I ran into a woman I know at the store last week, stopped and said hi...she was telling me about her nails and how she couldn't get them filled...she was almost in tears...it was quite pathetic to be honest.
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Then again, there's some that like to sit back and watch the world burn! :laugh:
They're extremely rare..
Most people want a future..
The longer this lock down goes on, the less likely there will be one.
I just hope that some people have learned patience and respect during this time.
I ran into a woman I know at the store last week, stopped and said hi...she was telling me about her nails and how she couldn't get them filled...she was almost in tears...it was quite pathetic to be honest.
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Right!? It was hard not to roll my eyes. But I was kind about it anyway...*sigh*
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Then again, there's some that like to sit back and watch the world burn! :laugh:
They're extremely rare..
Most people want a future..
The longer this lock down goes on, the less likely there will be one.
I just hope that some people have learned patience and respect during this time.
I ran into a woman I know at the store last week, stopped and said hi...she was telling me about her nails and how she couldn't get them filled...she was almost in tears...it was quite pathetic to be honest.
Nah, that was old Joe. He is a drama queen.
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I'll be honest... I don't mind bumming around on the Trudybucks welfare cheques that get now get deposited into my account! I could live like this for quite some time! Bumming around the yard and house, taking care of tasks here and there... Almost like I'm retired! :laugh:
My mornings are great. Toast with strawberry jam, boiled eggs, and a cup of black coffee or English breakfast tea. I take my time. No work, no rush, no appointments. Just living. The world is fine. Traffic is smooth. Gas is cheap. Rock 101 on the radio.
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I'll be honest... I don't mind bumming around on the Trudybucks welfare cheques that get now get deposited into my account! I could live like this for quite some time! Bumming around the yard and house, taking care of tasks here and there... Almost like I'm retired! :laugh:
My mornings have been great. Toast with strawberry jam, boiled eggs, and a cup of black coffee or English breakfast tea. I take my time. No work, no rush, no appointments. Just living. The world is fine. Traffic is smooth. Gas is cheap. Rock 101 on the radio.
I always have a lot of work to do on my farm. I am up early, have coffee, and then I have at least ten hours of work. I love it.
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I always have a lot of work to do on my farm. I am up early, have coffee, and then I have at least ten hours of work. I love it.
You should qualify for the Trudybucks also, if your farm is a business and earned you at least $5,000 in the last 12 months...
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I always have a lot of work to do on my farm. I am up early, have coffee, and then I have at least ten hours of work. I love it.
You should qualify for the Trudybucks also, if your farm is a business and earned you at least $5,000 in the last 12 months...
Even though I work as an independent well site supervisor three and a half months a year, my income is too high. My old lady has a high income too and she is still being paid.
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Even though I work as an independent well site supervisor three and a half months a year, my income is too high. My old lady has a high income too and she is still being paid.
Doesn't matter how much your income was, just as long as you can't work right now due to virus!
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Even though I work as an independent well site supervisor three and a half months a year, my income is too high. My old lady has a high income too and she is still being paid.
Doesn't matter how much your income was, just as long as you can't work right now due to virus!
Free money is not exactly free. I'm hearing that some people are recieving both EI and the cerb.... I'm sure some people are going to get dinged next year. Spur of the moment thinking can cause problems down the road. Not sure the actual qualifications for this, but better be safe than stupid.
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Doesn't matter how much your income was, just as long as you can't work right now due to virus!
Free money is not exactly free. I'm hearing that some people are recieving both EI and the cerb....[/quote]
You can't receive both. Any overpayment will have to be repaid.
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You can't receive both. Any overpayment will have to be repaid.
Let's try that again, since I can't edit my posts!
Exactly, but some people aren't so smart, they should call and correct this themselves...I've mentioned this to a few and they made fun of me for being an idiot...ok then, have fun paying that back next year!
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This lock down is really doing a number on working people and the businesses that employ them. Perhaps a total lock down was not the best response to the pandemic.
I had a house burn down losing hundreds of thousands of dollars... My neighbor was the victim of two house fires, one in the UK and one in WA... and guess what?... not only did we survive them... we're now millionaires.
Whatever disaster awaits us in the next year ahead, we will survive economically.
I really wish people would cease this worry of economic disaster approaching because it is absolute codswallop.
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And listening to survivors is going to tell me how many people have had the virus unknowingly and how that fact lowers the death rate quite measurably? Whatever.
It's delusional comments like that, that are leading to the selfish actions of lockdown breakers
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Besides, I talk every day with someone that has the virus and I know very well how bad they feel and how painful it is. Not only that, but I imagine knowing that can ease some of the fears of those that have it now. Especially those of us in the high risk zones....like you and me.
Speak to more survivors. Broaden your knowledge further. You're going to have millions of survivors who cannot even do their own laundry at home without collapsing all because arseholes cannot follow the simplest idea to stay bloody home until they let everyone out again.
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This lock down is really doing a number on working people and the businesses that employ them. Perhaps a total lock down was not the best response to the pandemic.
I had a house burn down losing hundreds of thousands of dollars... My neighbor was the victim of two house fires, one in the UK and one in WA... and guess what?... not only did we survive them... we're now millionaires.
Whatever disaster awaits us in the next year ahead, we will survive economically.
I really wish people would cease this worry of economic disaster approaching because it is absolute codswallop.
The food banks are seeing exponentially higher higher volume for a reason..
Just this morning, the UN said this pandemic could push 256 million people worldwide into absolute famine..
This is the greatest economic crisis since the 1930's..
It was caused by total economic lock downs.
Then the rich will just have to stick their hands in their pockets and help relieve the future famine won't they?.
If you let people be infected only to recover then you'll have millions of zombies around who cannot work effectively.... even when they "recover" they are weak for many weeks. You need to see what this "recovered" journalist says. It won't let me copy and paste...
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/coronavirus-sydney-journalist-e2-80-99s-virus-warning/vi-BB12XSWH
I've just been listening to a doctor who has seen YOUNG people with coronavirus having strokes... they've submitted their findings to the UK...
caskur, there is a choice to be made. We risk millions of deaths worldwide due to the spread of the coronavirus or hundreds of millions of people dead from famine if we continue economic lock downs.
n many parts of the world, including Latin America, weeks of confinement have seen a surge in calls to helplines for victims of domestic abuse.
Eighteen women have been killed by their partner or ex-partners during the first 20 days of Argentina's mandatory quarantine.
Appeals to helplines have also shot up nearly 40 percent.
Carl Heneghan, director of the centre for evidence-based medicine at Oxford University, said that the impact of the lockdown was "going to outweigh the damaging effect of coronavirus".
We're locked down...WA has had no covid-19 for two days now.
Had all you people done what some of the Australian states did, you wouldn't be suffering as much now...
You're talking and panicking about something that hasn't even happened yet like it's a done thing and it isn't...
And Carl Heneghan is a goon to say, "going to outweigh the damaging effect of coronavirus". WHAT AN IDIOT.
You're just listening to people who support YOUR theory when you should be supporting the suppression of this disease with all your might...
and 100 DEAD health workers deaths in the UK outweigh 18 domestic violence victims in some pisspot country like Argentina. puh-leeze.
Singapore has been caught out... second wave.. Once hailed as being country completely on top of the Chinese Virus.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/singapore-reports-biggest-single-day-coronavirus-spike-in-second-wave-outbreak
And I tell you what.... if we have to go into another lockdown in the near future, it'll be worse than being stuck now.
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We're locked down...WA has had no covid-19 for two days now.
Had all you people done what some of the Australian states did, you wouldn't be suffering as much now...
You're talking and panicking about something that hasn't even happened yet like it's a done thing and it isn't...
And Carl Heneghan is a goon to say, "going to outweigh the damaging effect of coronavirus". WHAT AN IDIOT.
You're just listening to people who support YOUR theory when you should be supporting the suppression of this disease with all your might...
and 100 DEAD health workers deaths in the UK outweigh 18 domestic violence victims in some pisspot country like Argentina. puh-leeze.
Oh for fuck sakes, that example he gave is not about numbers, but to show all the different ways these lock downs are killing people. It's a choice, hundreds of millions, possibly billions dead due to economic collapse or maybe a million sick and elderly dead due to this virus. What the Oxford prof said went right over your head.
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We're locked down...WA has had no covid-19 for two days now.
Had all you people done what some of the Australian states did, you wouldn't be suffering as much now...
You're talking and panicking about something that hasn't even happened yet like it's a done thing and it isn't...
And Carl Heneghan is a goon to say, "going to outweigh the damaging effect of coronavirus". WHAT AN IDIOT.
You're just listening to people who support YOUR theory when you should be supporting the suppression of this disease with all your might...
and 100 DEAD health workers deaths in the UK outweigh 18 domestic violence victims in some pisspot country like Argentina. puh-leeze.
Oh for fuck sakes, that example he gave is not about numbers, but to show all the different ways these lock downs are killing people. It's a choice, hundreds of millions, possibly billions dead due to economic collapse or maybe a million sick and elderly dead due to this virus. What the Oxford prof said went right over your head.
He is a first grade dumarse... where is that bozos twitter I can blast him there?.
. Recovered almost; China's early patients unable to shed coronavirues.VVVV
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/coronavirus/recovered-almost-chinas-early-patients-unable-to-shed-coronavirus/ar-BB132jaH?ocid=spartanntp
The bigget victims are the medical staff and the children who won't ever see mum and dad EVER again because thee caught the virus from Patients.
Caskur isn't smart enough to see past het fat gut.
How many thousands of people will due because their surgeries are cancelled. All of this death to avoid catching avirus that makes 99% of the people suck for 10 days. :crazy:
The same article fatcur posted said they were no cases of people testing positive months after infecting others. What that should tell anyone with average intelligence is that there is a problem with Chinese tesing.
But, the real question should be, is saving tens of thousands of sick and elderly people while killing hundreds of millions a wise strategy to deal with COVID-19?
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Caskur isn't smart enough to see past het fat gut.
How many thousands of people will due because their surgeries are cancelled. All of this death to avoid catching avirus that makes 99% of the people suck for 10 days.
Shpell Musch??
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USC and the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health on Monday released preliminary results from a collaborative scientific study that suggests infections from the new coronavirus are far more widespread — and the fatality rate much lower — in L.A. County than previously thought. The results are from the first round of an ongoing study by USC researchers and county health officials. They will be conducting antibody testing over time on a series of representative samples of adults to determine the scope and spread of the pandemic across the county.
Based on the results of the first round of testing, the research team estimates that approximately 4.1% of the county's adult population has an antibody to the virus. Adjusting this estimate for the statistical margin of error implies about 2.8% to 5.6% of the county's adult population has an antibody to the virus — which translates to approximately 221,000 to 442,000 adults in the county who have been infected. That estimate is 28 to 55 times higher than the 7,994 confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported to the county at the time of the study in early April. The number of COVID-related deaths in the county has now surpassed 600.
"We haven't known the true extent of COVID-19 infections in our community because we have only tested people with symptoms, and the availability of tests has been limited," said lead investigator Neeraj Sood, professor of public policy at the USC Price School for Public Policy and senior fellow at the USC Schaeffer Center for Health Policy and Economics. "The estimates also suggest that we might have to recalibrate disease prediction models and rethink public health strategies."
https://news.usc.edu/168987/antibody-testing-results-covid-19-infections-los-angeles-county/
LA County has built up a stronger immunity due to the people living in filth and piss and shit that line the streets...
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LA County has built up a stronger immunity due to the people living in filth and piss and shit that line the streets...
Classic cc.
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Caskur isn't smart enough to see past het fat gut.
How many thousands of people will due because their surgeries are cancelled. All of this death to avoid catching avirus that makes 99% of the people suck for 10 days.
Shpell Musch??
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I had 3 typos in one sentence myself.
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Caskur isn't smart enough to see past het fat gut.
How many thousands of people will due because their surgeries are cancelled. All of this death to avoid catching avirus that makes 99% of the people suck for 10 days. :crazy:
Guest, I suggest you catch up on the reality of this virus.
Why have you even bothered to respond in this thread without a real nickname? Is it because you have an IQ the size of your shoe? It sounds like it.
Deaths are rising across North America and Europe, and not all are because of COVID-19..
And since we know the USA's death count from the virus is lower than they report because they count everybody who has the virus and dies, died of the coronavirus, non virus deaths are spiking do to extended lockdowns.
eath rates are the highest they have been in 20 years in the U.K., nearly double what is usually reported. While around a third of the deaths in England and Wales were linked to coronavirus, there was a significant increase in deaths from other causes. That seems to be true for the U.S. as well. In New York City, for example, an extra 17,000 extra deaths have been recorded above-average since March 11, with 13,000 of them linked to COVID-19.
That leaves another 4,000 deaths above average not linked to coronavirus.
This has led to some experts, like Professor Carl Heneghan, director of the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine at Oxford University, to call for an end to the lockdown.
"The damaging effects now of lockdown are going to outweigh the damaging effects of coronavirus," he has said.
Heneghan argues that cases of COVID-19 reached a peak before the U.K. was placed on lockdown, with social distancing measures and advice to regularly wash hands having the telling impact without the need for a full lockdown.
Sweden has avoided mandatory lockdown restrictions and, as of April 21, has reported 15,322 infections with 1,765 deaths, around 10 percent the number of cases and deaths in the U.K. and 2 percent of the U.S.'s
'If you go look at what's happening in Sweden, they are holding their nerve and they haven't had doomsday scenario," Heneghan has said. "Our Government has got it completely the wrong way around."
While Sweden's death toll is higher than usual, if you take away the deaths recorded as linked to coronavirus, the death rate is nearly exactly average, the New York Times found.
https://www.newsweek.com/could-continuing-lockdown-more-deadly-coronavirus-itself-1499531
Elderly 92 year old man with dementia attacked in racially-motivated incident.
Staff members at a 7-11 were trying to help the elderly Asian man when another customer started shouting racist remarks at the victim, the Vancouver Police Department said in a news release Wednesday.
Some of the comments were related to COVID-19.
The incident continued outside, where it is alleged the elderly man was shoved. The man fell to the ground and hit his head, police said.
Officers were called to the store, but the other man had left the scene.
The VPD released photos of the suspect Wednesday, saying the assault is being investigated as a hate crime.
"Everything about this assault and the behaviour of the suspect is despicable," Const. Tania Visintin said in a statement.
"As a police department, we do not tolerate incidents motivated by bias, prejudice, or hate. It's even more disturbing considering the victim's age."
The internet was quick to identify the man as Jamie Bezanson. works at the port of vancouver. Have a son name Luke. Redditers even found his wife's facebook. Security cameras these days provide such good quality video.
https://www.youtube.com/watchone?v=tBHW57U7uJU
Maybe he was trolling him..
In engrish.
I dont rike you american... Arr americans shtoopid..
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Elderly 92 year old man with dementia attacked in racially-motivated incident.
Staff members at a 7-11 were trying to help the elderly Asian man when another customer started shouting racist remarks at the victim, the Vancouver Police Department said in a news release Wednesday.
Some of the comments were related to COVID-19.
The incident continued outside, where it is alleged the elderly man was shoved. The man fell to the ground and hit his head, police said.
Officers were called to the store, but the other man had left the scene.
The VPD released photos of the suspect Wednesday, saying the assault is being investigated as a hate crime.
"Everything about this assault and the behaviour of the suspect is despicable," Const. Tania Visintin said in a statement.
"As a police department, we do not tolerate incidents motivated by bias, prejudice, or hate. It's even more disturbing considering the victim's age."
The internet was quick to identify the man as Jamie Bezanson. works at the port of vancouver. Have a son name Luke. Redditers even found his wife's facebook. Security cameras these days provide such good quality video.
https://www.youtube.com/watchone?v=tBHW57U7uJU
That was difficult to watch.....despicable.
It saddens me some people are so close minded. Everyone is a person, doesn't matter what race they are...no innocent civilian is responsible for what is happening in the world. This is what hate and evil does...it separates us and makes us weak...if it continues on, it will win....this is an invisible enemy and we don't want it to succeed. Please be kind to one another, stand together, it will make us stronger. I might sound cheesy to some, but it's the truth.
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It saddens me some people are so close minded. Everyone is a person, doesn't matter what race they are...no innocent civilian is responsible for what is happening in the world. This is what hate and evil does...it separates us and makes us weak...if it continues on, it will win....this is an invisible enemy and we don't want it to succeed. Please be kind to one another, stand together, it will make us stronger. I might sound cheesy to some, but it's the truth.
Notice the two white people comming into the store and do nothing to help the man
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Notice the two white people comming into the store and do nothing to help the man
It's Vancouver. One of the biggest shitholes in Canada, second only to Toronto. Injun towns are bad also, but that simply goes without saying, and any White that moves anywhere near Injuns must be certifiably retarded.
Leaving Vancouver was a good move for me. People are different in smaller towns. Much better quality of life.
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Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
It saddens me some people are so close minded. Everyone is a person, doesn't matter what race they are...no innocent civilian is responsible for what is happening in the world. This is what hate and evil does...it separates us and makes us weak...if it continues on, it will win....this is an invisible enemy and we don't want it to succeed. Please be kind to one another, stand together, it will make us stronger. I might sound cheesy to some, but it's the truth.
Notice the two white people comming into the store and do nothing to help the man
Awfully dark for a white couple.. Tanned skin, dark hair..
Probably an asian couple.
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Awfully dark for a white couple.. Tanned skin, dark hair..
Probably an asian couple.
Certainly Asian. That area is full of Asians. Not many Whites left. Most of the White looking people left there are Italians...
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Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
It saddens me some people are so close minded. Everyone is a person, doesn't matter what race they are...no innocent civilian is responsible for what is happening in the world. This is what hate and evil does...it separates us and makes us weak...if it continues on, it will win....this is an invisible enemy and we don't want it to succeed. Please be kind to one another, stand together, it will make us stronger. I might sound cheesy to some, but it's the truth.
Notice the two white people comming into the store and do nothing to help the man
Shen Li, is that you?
lol .. can't fool you
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Elderly 92 year old man with dementia attacked in racially-motivated incident.
Staff members at a 7-11 were trying to help the elderly Asian man when another customer started shouting racist remarks at the victim, the Vancouver Police Department said in a news release Wednesday.
Some of the comments were related to COVID-19.
The incident continued outside, where it is alleged the elderly man was shoved. The man fell to the ground and hit his head, police said.
Officers were called to the store, but the other man had left the scene.
The VPD released photos of the suspect Wednesday, saying the assault is being investigated as a hate crime.
"Everything about this assault and the behaviour of the suspect is despicable," Const. Tania Visintin said in a statement.
"As a police department, we do not tolerate incidents motivated by bias, prejudice, or hate. It's even more disturbing considering the victim's age."
The internet was quick to identify the man as Jamie Bezanson. works at the port of vancouver. Have a son name Luke. Redditers even found his wife's facebook. Security cameras these days provide such good quality video.
https://www.youtube.com/watchone?v=tBHW57U7uJU
What a sick piece of shit.
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Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
Elderly 92 year old man with dementia attacked in racially-motivated incident.
Staff members at a 7-11 were trying to help the elderly Asian man when another customer started shouting racist remarks at the victim, the Vancouver Police Department said in a news release Wednesday.
Some of the comments were related to COVID-19.
The incident continued outside, where it is alleged the elderly man was shoved. The man fell to the ground and hit his head, police said.
Officers were called to the store, but the other man had left the scene.
The VPD released photos of the suspect Wednesday, saying the assault is being investigated as a hate crime.
"Everything about this assault and the behaviour of the suspect is despicable," Const. Tania Visintin said in a statement.
"As a police department, we do not tolerate incidents motivated by bias, prejudice, or hate. It's even more disturbing considering the victim's age."
The internet was quick to identify the man as Jamie Bezanson. works at the port of vancouver. Have a son name Luke. Redditers even found his wife's facebook. Security cameras these days provide such good quality video.
https://www.youtube.com/watchone?v=tBHW57U7uJU
What a sick piece of shit.
Assaulting a frail 92 year old man with dementia..
What is wrong with some people.
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
Elderly 92 year old man with dementia attacked in racially-motivated incident.
Staff members at a 7-11 were trying to help the elderly Asian man when another customer started shouting racist remarks at the victim, the Vancouver Police Department said in a news release Wednesday.
Some of the comments were related to COVID-19.
The incident continued outside, where it is alleged the elderly man was shoved. The man fell to the ground and hit his head, police said.
Officers were called to the store, but the other man had left the scene.
The VPD released photos of the suspect Wednesday, saying the assault is being investigated as a hate crime.
"Everything about this assault and the behaviour of the suspect is despicable," Const. Tania Visintin said in a statement.
"As a police department, we do not tolerate incidents motivated by bias, prejudice, or hate. It's even more disturbing considering the victim's age."
The internet was quick to identify the man as Jamie Bezanson. works at the port of vancouver. Have a son name Luke. Redditers even found his wife's facebook. Security cameras these days provide such good quality video.
https://www.youtube.com/watchone?v=tBHW57U7uJU
If that big fat ape had manhandled a helpless senior in rural Saskatchewan, he would have faced prairie justice.
These old asian dudes are dangerous..
I´ve seen them in the movies...
90 years old but still able to kill several men.
Sometimes they can even shoot fireballs out of their hands and feet...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfMeHzVtnfs
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Sometimes they can even shoot fireballs out of their hands and feet...
Not my father.
I bet fashie knows kung fu..
She´ll use your own weight and momentum to slam your head against her knee.
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I bet fashie knows kung fu..
She´ll use your own weight and momentum to slam your head against her knee.
I used to know some bitch that knew karate and she always went for the balls! She was only a yellow belt
I made a thread on the main but I will go ahead and post it here as well.
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States are beginning to open things up. In Texas, the stay at home order expires Thursday.
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Texas Gov. Greg Abbott detailed plans on Monday to reopen the state for business amid the coronavirus pandemic – allowing places like retail stores, restaurants and movie theaters to open up to customers at a limited capacity by Friday May 1.....Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick said wearing masks will be encouraged, but will not be required....."We're not just going to pen up and hope for the best," Abbott said during a news conference on Monday in Austin. "We're going to open in way that will also contain the virus and keep us safe.".....Along with retail stores, restaurants and movie theaters, Abbott said that museums and libraries can also reopen on Friday at a 25 percent capacity. Sole proprietors of businesses can also open and doctors and dentists can resume normal operations as well.
Abbott added that hospitals will still have to keep 50 percent of their capacity for patients suffering from COVID-19.
Churches and places of worship, which were allowed to remain open during the state's stay-at-home orders, are also allowed to expand their capacity provided safe social distancing measures are still enacted.....The governor's plan, which he said has the backing of both state and federal health officials, is part of larger strategy in Texas to gradually reopen businesses. Abbott noted that by May 18, if there are no new spikes of contagion in Texas than he will move on to phases two of the plan, which allows businesses to operate at 50 percent capacity.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-stay-at-home-order-will-end-friday-with-businesses-reopening-in-phases
One of my co-workers daughter lives in Texas, she says its a real gong show there. Interesting to know what will happen.
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I made a thread on the main but I will go ahead and post it here as well.
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States are beginning to open things up. In Texas, the stay at home order expires Thursday.
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Texas Gov. Greg Abbott detailed plans on Monday to reopen the state for business amid the coronavirus pandemic – allowing places like retail stores, restaurants and movie theaters to open up to customers at a limited capacity by Friday May 1.....Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick said wearing masks will be encouraged, but will not be required....."We're not just going to pen up and hope for the best," Abbott said during a news conference on Monday in Austin. "We're going to open in way that will also contain the virus and keep us safe.".....Along with retail stores, restaurants and movie theaters, Abbott said that museums and libraries can also reopen on Friday at a 25 percent capacity. Sole proprietors of businesses can also open and doctors and dentists can resume normal operations as well.
Abbott added that hospitals will still have to keep 50 percent of their capacity for patients suffering from COVID-19.
Churches and places of worship, which were allowed to remain open during the state's stay-at-home orders, are also allowed to expand their capacity provided safe social distancing measures are still enacted.....The governor's plan, which he said has the backing of both state and federal health officials, is part of larger strategy in Texas to gradually reopen businesses. Abbott noted that by May 18, if there are no new spikes of contagion in Texas than he will move on to phases two of the plan, which allows businesses to operate at 50 percent capacity.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-stay-at-home-order-will-end-friday-with-businesses-reopening-in-phases
Giving a reopening timeline gives people hope. It also allows busineses to make plans.
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These old asian dudes are dangerous..
I´ve seen them in the movies...
90 years old but still able to kill several men.
Not my daddy. He's 60, and hires people to handle smartasses like you.
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
These old asian dudes are dangerous..
I´ve seen them in the movies...
90 years old but still able to kill several men.
Not my daddy. He's 60, and hires people to handle smartasses like you.
Oh hi Shen Li. Where have you been? How is Edmonton?
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
These old asian dudes are dangerous..
I´ve seen them in the movies...
90 years old but still able to kill several men.
Not my daddy. He's 60, and hires people to handle smartasses like you.
Oh hi Shen Li. Where have you been? How is Edmonton?
Better since it finally started warming up everyday. I work from home, but I still have to go our main office at least once a week. In the evenings and on weekends I am outside taking advantage of this nice weather. I post less in the summer.
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Better since it finally started warming up everyday. I work from home, but I still have to go our main office at least once a week. In the evenings and on weekends I am outside taking advantage of this nice weather. I post less in the summer.
Are your neighbours White?
The youtube video that was taken down because "the video was pulled because the content contradicted the guidance of the local health authority."
There are two videos on this page that are very interesting.
https://www.turnto23.com/news/coronavirus/watch-controversial-press-conference-held-by-two-bakersfield-doctors-that-was-pulled-down-by-youtube
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Quote from: "Shen Li"
Better since it finally started warming up everyday. I work from home, but I still have to go our main office at least once a week. In the evenings and on weekends I am outside taking advantage of this nice weather. I post less in the summer.
Are your neighbours White?
Do you consider Iranians white? We have an Iranian family on one side of us.
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Better since it finally started warming up everyday. I work from home, but I still have to go our main office at least once a week. In the evenings and on weekends I am outside taking advantage of this nice weather. I post less in the summer.
Are your neighbours White?
Do you consider Iranians white? We have an Iranian family on one side of us.
A muslim ghetto..
Do little chinese engineers get paid less than white engineers?
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Better since it finally started warming up everyday. I work from home, but I still have to go our main office at least once a week. In the evenings and on weekends I am outside taking advantage of this nice weather. I post less in the summer.
Are your neighbours White?
Do you consider Iranians white? We have an Iranian family on one side of us.
A muslim ghetto..
Do little chinese engineers get paid less than white engineers?
If they do as little as white engineers.
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Mel"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Better since it finally started warming up everyday. I work from home, but I still have to go our main office at least once a week. In the evenings and on weekends I am outside taking advantage of this nice weather. I post less in the summer.
Are your neighbours White?
Do you consider Iranians white? We have an Iranian family on one side of us.
A muslim ghetto..
Do little chinese engineers get paid less than white engineers?
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