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Title: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: Anonymous on May 15, 2020, 12:21:30 AM
The most recent victim is a 14 year old girl. Lock downs kill people, but hey, we have to slow the number of young healthy people getting a cough for a week.


QuoteA band councillor for a Saskatchewan First Nation is speaking out after a rash of suicide attempts in the past few weeks on his reserve.



Dustin Ross Fiddler of Waterhen Lake First Nation said a 14-year-old girl recently died by suicide and that he is aware of 10 other recent attempts.



Many programs were cancelled or suspended when the pandemic started. Fiddler said not being able to go out and meet with people also has an effect on people's mental health.



"It brings up a tough question, but it has to be asked: What is more dangerous at the moment? Is it a growing virus or is it our mental health deterioration?"

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/band-councillor-on-sask-first-nation-says-suicide-crisis-is-emerging-amidst-pandemic-1.5568350
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: Anonymous on May 15, 2020, 12:44:15 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"The most recent victim is a 14 year old girl. Lock downs kill people, but hey, we have to slow the number of young healthy people getting a cough for a week.


QuoteA band councillor for a Saskatchewan First Nation is speaking out after a rash of suicide attempts in the past few weeks on his reserve.



Dustin Ross Fiddler of Waterhen Lake First Nation said a 14-year-old girl recently died by suicide and that he is aware of 10 other recent attempts.



Many programs were cancelled or suspended when the pandemic started. Fiddler said not being able to go out and meet with people also has an effect on people's mental health.



"It brings up a tough question, but it has to be asked: What is more dangerous at the moment? Is it a growing virus or is it our mental health deterioration?"

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/band-councillor-on-sask-first-nation-says-suicide-crisis-is-emerging-amidst-pandemic-1.5568350

More collateral damage from lock downs.
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: Anonymous on May 15, 2020, 01:52:41 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"The most recent victim is a 14 year old girl. Lock downs kill people, but hey, we have to slow the number of young healthy people getting a cough for a week.


QuoteA band councillor for a Saskatchewan First Nation is speaking out after a rash of suicide attempts in the past few weeks on his reserve.



Dustin Ross Fiddler of Waterhen Lake First Nation said a 14-year-old girl recently died by suicide and that he is aware of 10 other recent attempts.



Many programs were cancelled or suspended when the pandemic started. Fiddler said not being able to go out and meet with people also has an effect on people's mental health.



"It brings up a tough question, but it has to be asked: What is more dangerous at the moment? Is it a growing virus or is it our mental health deterioration?"

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/band-councillor-on-sask-first-nation-says-suicide-crisis-is-emerging-amidst-pandemic-1.5568350

Extremely sad consequence of lock downs.
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: Berry Sweet on May 15, 2020, 11:14:58 PM
I've heard about this...can't just point out the aboriginals, because everyone as a whole are affected by this pandemic, and it happened 100 years ago...they did it then and life was way more boring and harder than today.



People today are a bunch of bitches.  I don't give a shit what happens on any reserve.  These assholes want to be independent, they try stop trains and block ports...and now they want more funds from the government.  Bunch of fuckin morons.



These idiots need to get a clue and stand up to their chiefs and tribe councils...they are the cause of their own demise.  Either stay on the rez and deal with it, or leave and get a life.
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: caskur on May 16, 2020, 03:38:10 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"The most recent victim is a 14 year old girl. Lock downs kill people, but hey, we have to slow the number of young healthy people getting a cough for a week.


QuoteA band councillor for a Saskatchewan First Nation is speaking out after a rash of suicide attempts in the past few weeks on his reserve.



Dustin Ross Fiddler of Waterhen Lake First Nation said a 14-year-old girl recently died by suicide and that he is aware of 10 other recent attempts.



Many programs were cancelled or suspended when the pandemic started. Fiddler said not being able to go out and meet with people also has an effect on people's mental health.



"It brings up a tough question, but it has to be asked: What is more dangerous at the moment? Is it a growing virus or is it our mental health deterioration?"

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/band-councillor-on-sask-first-nation-says-suicide-crisis-is-emerging-amidst-pandemic-1.5568350


She would have killed herself because she was probably constantly raped and starved... that's what they do to children...



Good propaganda post... something to fit your BS narrative.
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: caskur on May 16, 2020, 04:03:23 AM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"I've heard about this...can't just point out the aboriginals, because everyone as a whole are affected by this pandemic, and it happened 100 years ago...they did it then and life was way more boring and harder than today.



People today are a bunch of bitches.  I don't give a shit what happens on any reserve.  These assholes want to be independent, they try stop trains and block ports...and now they want more funds from the government.  Bunch of fuckin morons.



These idiots need to get a clue and stand up to their chiefs and tribe councils...they are the cause of their own demise.  Either stay on the rez and deal with it, or leave and get a life.




Once my aunty went for a holiday back to the Philippines and one of her nephews "suicided" but the rumour was that the father killed the 15 yr old and they made it look like a suicide by hanging him.



You cannot trust native communities to tell the truth. They're terrified of each other. And when people expose the truth, they're RACIST.
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: Anonymous on May 16, 2020, 10:38:57 AM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Shen Li"The most recent victim is a 14 year old girl. Lock downs kill people, but hey, we have to slow the number of young healthy people getting a cough for a week.


QuoteA band councillor for a Saskatchewan First Nation is speaking out after a rash of suicide attempts in the past few weeks on his reserve.



Dustin Ross Fiddler of Waterhen Lake First Nation said a 14-year-old girl recently died by suicide and that he is aware of 10 other recent attempts.



Many programs were cancelled or suspended when the pandemic started. Fiddler said not being able to go out and meet with people also has an effect on people's mental health.



"It brings up a tough question, but it has to be asked: What is more dangerous at the moment? Is it a growing virus or is it our mental health deterioration?"

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/band-councillor-on-sask-first-nation-says-suicide-crisis-is-emerging-amidst-pandemic-1.5568350


She would have killed herself because she was probably constantly raped and starved... that's what they do to children...



Good propaganda post... something to fit your BS narrative.

There are boys attempting suicide on reserves too..



Lock downs of young healthy people are having deadly consequences.
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: Anonymous on May 16, 2020, 03:36:15 PM
I hear the chief of the reserve that is having a coronavirus outbreak is considering herd immunity while isolating the elders. None of the dozens of cases up there has needed hospitalization or even a visit to a doctor. Its all young people that caught it so far and they are doing fine at home.
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: caskur on May 16, 2020, 05:05:32 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Shen Li"The most recent victim is a 14 year old girl. Lock downs kill people, but hey, we have to slow the number of young healthy people getting a cough for a week.


QuoteA band councillor for a Saskatchewan First Nation is speaking out after a rash of suicide attempts in the past few weeks on his reserve.



Dustin Ross Fiddler of Waterhen Lake First Nation said a 14-year-old girl recently died by suicide and that he is aware of 10 other recent attempts.



Many programs were cancelled or suspended when the pandemic started. Fiddler said not being able to go out and meet with people also has an effect on people's mental health.



"It brings up a tough question, but it has to be asked: What is more dangerous at the moment? Is it a growing virus or is it our mental health deterioration?"

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/band-councillor-on-sask-first-nation-says-suicide-crisis-is-emerging-amidst-pandemic-1.5568350


She would have killed herself because she was probably constantly raped and starved... that's what they do to children...



Good propaganda post... something to fit your BS narrative.

There are boys attempting suicide on reserves too..



Lock downs of young healthy people are having deadly consequences.


Boys are just as much risk of sexual abuse as girls. In fact, probably boys are a greater risk of being raped.



I'd make sure every single "suicide" was actually suicide and not murder.



And I do not for 1 second believe kids are suiciding being locked down. It takes more than that to feel like ending it all.
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: Anonymous on May 16, 2020, 05:40:06 PM
Quote from: "Herman"I hear the chief of the reserve that is having a coronavirus outbreak is considering herd immunity while isolating the elders. None if the dozens of cases up there has needed hospitalization or even seeing a doctor. Its all young people that caught it so far and they are doing fine at home.

What the chief is proposing is inevitable for the entire world. Some level of herd immunity WILL happen.
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2020, 12:54:28 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Herman"I hear the chief of the reserve that is having a coronavirus outbreak is considering herd immunity while isolating the elders. None if the dozens of cases up there has needed hospitalization or even seeing a doctor. Its all young people that caught it so far and they are doing fine at home.

What the chief is proposing is inevitable for the entire world. Some level of herd immunity WILL happen.

Looks that way.
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: cc on May 17, 2020, 01:23:57 PM
This term "herd immunity" gets tossed around here a lot  like it has significance



I have never seen it used by science .. only by amateurs



OK. I'll bite. What is it supposed to mean?



"After everyone has contracted it"? ... because that's the only way it could have any significance



.. and even that assumes immunity in those who have had it is permanent which also I've seen no science on
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2020, 01:44:54 PM
Quote from: "cc"This term "herd immunity" gets tossed around here a lot  like it has significance



I have never seen it used by science .. only by amateurs



OK. I'll bite. What is it supposed to mean?



"After everyone has contracted it"? ... because that's the only way it could have any significance



.. and even that assumes immunity in those who have had it is permanent which also I've seen no science on

From what I have read, when sixty per cent of the population gets the virus, that is herd immunity. And that is what the game plan the chief of La Loche seems to be after.
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: cc on May 17, 2020, 02:02:24 PM
So it's not science - It's simply a made up term



Even if it did matter, nowhere is even close to that %  .. nowhere!!



And that further assumes that immunity is permanent -  for which I have also seen no science on



It appears that  those using the term as a positive are really saying "We need everyone to get the virus" .. which would still be dependent on the further unproven item (far as I can find) that immunity is permanent



Unless someone can show me a LOT of scientists explaining in depth  that it's  a good plan  and actually has meaning, I'll continue to view it as a made up amateur "term of convenience" and of zero significance
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2020, 02:07:07 PM
Quote from: "cc"So it's not science - It's simply a made up term



Even if it did matter, nowhere is even close to that %  .. nowhere!!



And that further assumes that immunity is permanent -  for which I have also seen no science on



It appears that  those using the term as a positive are really saying "We need everyone to get the virus"



Unless someone can show me a LOT of scientists explaining in depth  that it's  a good plan  and actually has meaning, I'll continue to view it as a made up amateur term of zero significance

I read it's possible LA has already achieved some form of herd immunity. I read Stockholm might get there in June.



It aint a bad strategy for that reserve where the population is so young. As long as they isolate the elders.
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on May 17, 2020, 02:29:09 PM
God help us all. Even though we may get the vaccine,  let's say they engineered the vaccine, there will be a population that will be opposed to vaccines so we are fucked, folks.
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2020, 02:37:21 PM
Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"God help us all. Even though we may get the vaccine,  let's say they engineered the vaccine, there will be a population that will be opposed to vaccines so we are fucked, folks.

I will get the vaccine if it's offered..



That is if I haven't caught the coronavirus by then.
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: cc on May 17, 2020, 02:58:53 PM
Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"God help us all. Even though we may get the vaccine,  let's say they engineered the vaccine, there will be a population that will be opposed to vaccines so we are fucked, folks.

Assuming an effective vaccine is found - The only ones "fucked" are those who refused and can catch it  and from others who refuse it.



Those who took it are not fucked at all ... rather in the clear for themselves



Frankly, my "short term" hope is for mitigating medication .. meds that will keep the virus from becoming strong in a person

I don't understand why there is not more use of meds that have shown great promise in smaller studies

If something appears to work albeit on a smaller scale USE IT!! ... and if a better mitigation is proven, USE IT



As I see it - Anything that lessens or reverses the effects is a huge plus and a lifesaver until even better comes along
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2020, 03:06:19 PM
I get the flu vaccine every fall..



I don't want to pass it on to my elderly mother and mother in law.
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: cc on May 17, 2020, 03:06:46 PM
Good plan!!



I do likewise
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: cc on May 17, 2020, 03:37:56 PM
RE: Immunity - This is scary. Worse, it isn't just local "hard to verify" stats .. It's rigidly controlled stats by the navy who think and work only in "exacts"



I hope this is not true and is some weird mistake, but that's unlikely as it is Navy stats & very tightly controlled conditions - prolly the most tightly controlled conditions we can cite [sic and then there's S Korea]



13 USS Roosevelt Sailors Test Positive For COVID-19, Again[/url]



The U.S. Navy says 13 sailors from the USS Theodore Roosevelt who had apparently recovered from the coronavirus and had received negative test results have now tested positive for a second time.



In a statement released earlier on Saturday when five sailors were found to have retested positive, the Navy said the sailors had "met rigorous recovery criteria, exceeding CDC guidelines," including testing negative for the virus at least twice, but have now retested positive. The statement said the sailors had been monitoring their health and adhered to social-distancing protocols while on board the Roosevelt, which has been docked in Guam following an outbreak infecting hundreds of crew members.



"These five Sailors developed influenza-like illness symptoms and did the right thing reporting to medical for evaluation," the statement said.



The Navy has since confirmed to NPR that an additional eight sailors have retested positive for coronavirus, bringing the total to 13.





Public health experts are trying to learn more about why patients sometimes test positive for the coronavirus after appearing to recover. As NPR has reported, authorities in South Korea have documented a growing number of such cases. Health officials have said they believe the virus may be capable of becoming dormant and later reactivating in some people's immune systems.



------------



Stanley Perlman, a professor of microbiology and immunology at the University of Iowa, recently told NPR's Nell Greenfieldboyce that patients who recover from the virus may have at least some level of protection from it in the future, but much remains unknown.



"Based on other infections where you get a deep lung infection, you are usually protected against the second infection.



If you just have a mild COVID-19 infection that involves your upper airway, maybe it will behave like a common cold coronavirus and maybe you can be reinfected again," Perlman said. "We just really don't know. It's even hard to speculate."
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on May 17, 2020, 03:53:38 PM
I meant those who don't believe in vaccines will keep spreading it. I'll take the vaccine too, no question about that.
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2020, 04:04:17 PM
About those sailors, it's unclear if the tests misdiagnosed the sailors or if they were reinfected aboard the ship.
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: Odinson on May 17, 2020, 04:11:41 PM
She probably killed herself because her father, brothers and uncles were molesting her 24/7..





Normally they sometimes got too drunk to molest her.. But now that the liquor-stores are closed..
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2020, 04:18:05 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"She probably killed herself because her father, brothers and uncles were molesting her 24/7..





Normally they sometimes got too drunk to molest her.. But now that the liquor-stores are closed..

Liquor stores stayed open in Saskatchewan..



If they closed, Herman would have a fit.
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: Odinson on May 17, 2020, 04:26:39 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"She probably killed herself because her father, brothers and uncles were molesting her 24/7..





Normally they sometimes got too drunk to molest her.. But now that the liquor-stores are closed..

Liquor stores stayed open in Saskatchewan..



If they closed, Herman would have a fit.


Well... These girls usually commit suicide because they are being molested by their fathers..



And such a thing happens frequently in these bad communities..
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: caskur on May 18, 2020, 05:25:41 AM
Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"God help us all. Even though we may get the vaccine,  let's say they engineered the vaccine, there will be a population that will be opposed to vaccines so we are fucked, folks.


Keep practicing washing hands and social distancing.



Imagine every public surface has life threatening bugs and stay clean from them.
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: Berry Sweet on May 19, 2020, 12:30:35 AM
Quote from: "Odinson"She probably killed herself because her father, brothers and uncles were molesting her 24/7..





Normally they sometimes got too drunk to molest her.. But now that the liquor-stores are closed..


If the liquor stores were closed there would be riots and fires everywhere.



I was at my parents the other day watching a eurpoean news channel with my dad (its Greek) people are bored in Greece, they are damaging cars, breaking windows, setting cars on fire...destroying the outdoor bank machines and stealing money, setting the while thing on fire...the damage is just mind boggling...then I saw something else of police or army running thru the streets, tear bombs going off, screaming and yelling (not sure if that was Greece or not...but somewhere in Europe)...all these things I see on that channel...reports of Greece and other eurpoean countries...I see none of it reported here.
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: Anonymous on May 19, 2020, 12:43:40 AM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "Odinson"She probably killed herself because her father, brothers and uncles were molesting her 24/7..





Normally they sometimes got too drunk to molest her.. But now that the liquor-stores are closed..


If the liquor stores were closed there would be riots and fires everywhere.



I was at my parents the other day watching a eurpoean news channel with my dad (its Greek) people are bored in Greece, they are damaging cars, breaking windows, setting cars on fire...destroying the outdoor bank machines and stealing money, setting the while thing on fire...the damage is just mind boggling...then I saw something else of police or army running thru the streets, tear bombs going off, screaming and yelling (not sure if that was Greece or not...but somewhere in Europe)...all these things I see on that channel...reports of Greece and other eurpoean countries...I see none of it reported here.

Thanks to lock downs, we could resemble Greece. Hope you like higher taxes, and austerity.
Title: Re: Spike In Suicides In Aboriginal Communities Due To Lock Downs
Post by: Anonymous on May 19, 2020, 09:51:01 AM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "Odinson"She probably killed herself because her father, brothers and uncles were molesting her 24/7..





Normally they sometimes got too drunk to molest her.. But now that the liquor-stores are closed..


If the liquor stores were closed there would be riots and fires everywhere.



I was at my parents the other day watching a eurpoean news channel with my dad (its Greek) people are bored in Greece, they are damaging cars, breaking windows, setting cars on fire...destroying the outdoor bank machines and stealing money, setting the while thing on fire...the damage is just mind boggling...then I saw something else of police or army running thru the streets, tear bombs going off, screaming and yelling (not sure if that was Greece or not...but somewhere in Europe)...all these things I see on that channel...reports of Greece and other eurpoean countries...I see none of it reported here.

Thanks to lock downs, we could resemble Greece. Hope you like higher taxes, and austerity.

I worry about our health care system. With unemployment at historic levels and little revenue coming in, health care will deteriorate.