Title: Snowbird Down
Post by: cc on May 17, 2020, 04:41:17 PM
Post by: cc on May 17, 2020, 04:41:17 PM
Dana Hings told Global News she was at home, watching the Snowbirds when she heard a crash.
"We thought it broke the sound barrier and we come over onto the deck and we see smoke, so we raced over," she said.
"I'm a retired nurse, so of course I went into the backyard and there was a woman, she was in the plane and she was deceased."
Hings said the other occupant of the plane was able to eject and landed on a nearby roof.
Mike Trafford, who lives near the airport, told Global News the aircraft had just taken off when something went wrong.
"The plane did a barrel roll, and shortly after the barrel roll there was a spark and the pilot ejected," he said.
"Then the plane took a nosedive and went straight down."
Video from the scene appears to show two people ejecting from the jet before it crashes.
The BC Ambulance Service says it received a call around 11:30 a.m. and deployed multiple units, both ground and air.
Title: Re: Snowbird Down
Post by: cc on May 17, 2020, 04:49:00 PM
Post by: cc on May 17, 2020, 04:49:00 PM
Dunno what is going on about "a woman" was also in the cockpit and killed
I'm sure verified reports will come in soon
Title: Re: Snowbird Down
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2020, 04:49:37 PM
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2020, 04:49:37 PM
Title: Re: Snowbird Down
Post by: cc on May 17, 2020, 04:55:51 PM
Post by: cc on May 17, 2020, 04:55:51 PM
Ejected at very last second for sure - maybe had been trying to get other person to eject .. assuming other person part of it is correct?
or trying to get away from homes? Dunno, still early in
Title: Re: Snowbird Down
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2020, 05:02:37 PM
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2020, 05:02:37 PM
Video in this reportQuote from: "cc"https://globalnews.ca/news/6954775/cf-snowbird-crashes-near-kamloops-during-b-c-stop-of-cross-canada-tour/
Ejected at very last second for sure - maybe had been trying to get other person to eject .. assuming other person part of it is correct?
or trying to get away from homes? Dunno, still early in
They were here on Friday. We could hear them, but we didn't see them. My sons were so disappointed.
Title: Re: Snowbird Down
Post by: cc on May 17, 2020, 05:06:17 PM
Post by: cc on May 17, 2020, 05:06:17 PM
They are so skilled and put on such great shows
They have lost people before .. I remember one lost on a practice flight on the prairies
Title: Re: Snowbird Down
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2020, 05:17:21 PM
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2020, 05:17:21 PM
An aircraft with the Canadian Forces Snowbirds demonstration jet team crashed in Kamloops, B.C., on Sunday.Quote from: "cc"https://globalnews.ca/news/6954775/cf-snowbird-crashes-near-kamloops-during-b-c-stop-of-cross-canada-tour/?utm_source=NewsletterNational&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=2020
Dana Hings told Global News she was at home, watching the Snowbirds when she heard a crash.
"We thought it broke the sound barrier and we come over onto the deck and we see smoke, so we raced over," she said.(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://shawglobalnews.files.wordpress.com/2020/05/crash-1-1.jpg?quality=70&strip=all&w=720%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://shawglobalnews.files.wordpress.%20...%20=all&w=720%22%3Ehttps://shawglobalnews.files.wordpress.com/2020/05/crash-1-1.jpg?quality=70&strip=all&w=720%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
"I'm a retired nurse, so of course I went into the backyard and there was a woman, she was in the plane and she was deceased."
Hings said the other occupant of the plane was able to eject and landed on a nearby roof.(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://shawglobalnews.files.wordpress.com/2020/05/crash-2-1.jpg?quality=70&strip=all&w=720%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://shawglobalnews.files.wordpress.%20...%20=all&w=720%22%3Ehttps://shawglobalnews.files.wordpress.com/2020/05/crash-2-1.jpg?quality=70&strip=all&w=720%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Mike Trafford, who lives near the airport, told Global News the aircraft had just taken off when something went wrong.
"The plane did a barrel roll, and shortly after the barrel roll there was a spark and the pilot ejected," he said.
"Then the plane took a nosedive and went straight down."
Video from the scene appears to show two people ejecting from the jet before it crashes.
The BC Ambulance Service says it received a call around 11:30 a.m. and deployed multiple units, both ground and air.
Title: Re: Snowbird Down
Post by: Zetsu on May 17, 2020, 05:26:24 PM
Post by: Zetsu on May 17, 2020, 05:26:24 PM
Title: Re: Snowbird Down
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2020, 05:33:53 PM
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2020, 05:33:53 PM
Reminds of the day the world lost the navy SEAL team 6, pretty unfortunately news for Canada but glad the pilot survived.Quote from: "Zetsu"
Have you ever seen the Snowbirds air show? I have seen it before, but my sons haven't. They were disappointed they couldn't see them on Friday.
Title: Re: Snowbird Down
Post by: cc on May 17, 2020, 05:43:35 PM
Post by: cc on May 17, 2020, 05:43:35 PM
BTW- The 2 smoke puffs just before hitting ground were
- 1st the cockpit cover being blasted away
- 2nd was pilot being blasted out of the aircraft
Just saw "Expert" on TV say "the 2 puffs were 2 ejecting - second chute cannot be seen opening and one person not found yet"
Dunno, conflicting and confusing stories at this time - There should be definitive info soon
Title: Re: Snowbird Down
Post by: Zetsu on May 17, 2020, 06:34:52 PM
Post by: Zetsu on May 17, 2020, 06:34:52 PM
Reminds of the day the world lost the navy SEAL team 6, pretty unfortunately news for Canada but glad the pilot survived.Quote from: "Zetsu"
Have you ever seen the Snowbirds air show? I have seen it before, but my sons haven't. They were disappointed they couldn't see them on Friday.
I never really got the chance to see them, though I've been to a Blue Angels airshow when I was still in high school, pretty awesome and and a must watch for anyone into military stuff.
Title: Re: Snowbird Down
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2020, 06:42:41 PM
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2020, 06:42:41 PM
Title: Re: Snowbird Down
Post by: cc on May 17, 2020, 06:48:02 PM
Post by: cc on May 17, 2020, 06:48:02 PM
1. Powerful respect for the tremendous skill of the pilots and beauty of their maneuvers (good feeling)
2. Awareness of the danger of flying any fighter plane, much less the danger of such close proximity to each other ... awareness that at any second, tragedy can happen .. and eventually will (bad feeling)
We got a show every year & were to this year. A dramatic moment in our shows is because of the geography here - they come en mass all close together straight at the beach only to suddenly climb parallel to the steep hill that starts at the beach then immediately level off and fly over the downtown area above the hill.
The skills are phenomenal
Latest report (Note: still unofficial) "one of crew landed on a roof and broke legs but is otherwise OK - other died"
Not surprising as ejection and chutes opening was at very low altitude and likely did not have time to fully open
Title: Re: Snowbird Down
Post by: Odinson on May 17, 2020, 07:12:30 PM
Post by: Odinson on May 17, 2020, 07:12:30 PM
Or.
Engine failure... He tried to maneuver towards a safer zone..
There is an urban center in the direction he was heading but nothing in the opposite direction..
His plane stalled and he had to eject.
Title: Re: Snowbird Down
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2020, 07:44:19 PM
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2020, 07:44:19 PM
Title: Re: Snowbird Down
Post by: cc on May 17, 2020, 08:49:57 PM
Post by: cc on May 17, 2020, 08:49:57 PM
Chutes could not fully deploy because 1. vertical angle of eject takes longer to straighten up and deploy and 2. There was not enough elevation to properly fill
So sadly ironic - Happened on a countrywide tour designed to "boost moral"
Title: Re: Snowbird Down
Post by: cc on May 18, 2020, 02:52:31 AM
Post by: cc on May 18, 2020, 02:52:31 AM
Title: Re: Snowbird Down
Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2020, 10:52:02 AM
Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2020, 10:52:02 AM
Capt. Jennifer Casey, the team's public affairs officer from Halifax, N.S., was killed in the crash.Quote from: "cc"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://shawglobalnews.files.wordpress.com/2020/05/jenn-casey.jpg?quality=70&strip=all&w=720%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://shawglobalnews.files.wordpress.%20...%20=all&w=720%22%3Ehttps://shawglobalnews.files.wordpress.com/2020/05/jenn-casey.jpg?quality=70&strip=all&w=720%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Title: Re: Snowbird Down
Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2020, 04:07:59 PM
Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2020, 04:07:59 PM
Title: Re: Snowbird Down
Post by: Skippy on May 18, 2020, 04:22:45 PM
Post by: Skippy on May 18, 2020, 04:22:45 PM
Title: Re: Snowbird Down
Post by: cc on May 18, 2020, 04:31:22 PM
Post by: cc on May 18, 2020, 04:31:22 PM
Why are they still using those old planes? They should be using f16s like the blue angelsQuote from: "Skippy"
Comes down to bucks. We are 10% the population of the US = it would cost each person 10 X as for each US person
Story over!!
Update: Pilot doing fairly well last time I checked. Very fortunate he survived what with bailing out both from a vertical position + very close to the ground
Title: Re: Snowbird Down
Post by: cc on May 18, 2020, 07:16:02 PM
Post by: cc on May 18, 2020, 07:16:02 PM
As shock waves ripple across the country from the loss of Capt. Jenn Casey in the CF Snowbirds crash in Kamloops on Sunday, a Kelowna pilot is organizing a flyover to finish the Okanagan loop in her honour.
said at least a dozen private planes will fly over the Kelowna area in a line formation on Monday afternoon.
"We are trying to finish what they started and inspire people in the Okanagan and Kelowna in light of COVID-19, try to bring some hope and happiness to people," he said.
Another source:
Several good Samaritans rushed to help the victims of the Canadian Forces Snowbirds' crash in Kamloops, including a retired nurse who described seeing catastrophic injuries. Paul Johnson reports.
Title: Re: Snowbird Down
Post by: cc on June 01, 2020, 06:28:49 PM
Post by: cc on June 01, 2020, 06:28:49 PM
According to a preliminary investigation report released on Monday, military analysis of video footage of the takeoff and subsequent crash shows what investigators believe
READ MORE: CF Snowbirds team member killed in crash in Kamloops, B.C.
"The investigation is focusing on environmental factors (birdstrike) as well as the performance of the escape system," the preliminary notice states.
Title: Re: Snowbird Down
Post by: Anonymous on June 01, 2020, 06:34:04 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 01, 2020, 06:34:04 PM
The Canadian Forces are looking into, which killed one military public affairs officer and injured a pilot. whether a bird strike may have caused the deadly crash of a Snowbirds aircraft last month(//news/7011319/snowbird-crash-bird-strike/)
According to a preliminary investigation report released on Monday, military analysis of video footage of the takeoff and subsequent crash shows what investigators believecould be a bird "in very close proximity" to the right engine intakeof the aircraft while it was taking off.
READ MORE]
I meant to post that earlier.
Title: Re: Snowbird Down
Post by: cc on June 01, 2020, 07:16:13 PM
Post by: cc on June 01, 2020, 07:16:13 PM
Title: Re: Snowbird Down
Post by: Anonymous on June 02, 2020, 02:33:58 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 02, 2020, 02:33:58 AM