The province is investigating reports of health-care staff playing a racist game betting on the blood alcohol level of mainly Indigenous patients they were treating, according to Health Minister Adrian Dix.
"The allegation is that a game was being played to investigate the blood alcohol level of patients in the emergency rooms, in particular with Indigenous people and perhaps others. And if true, it is intolerable and racist and of course (has) affected profoundly patient care," Dix told reporters at a news conference in Vancouver on Friday morning.
//https://globalnews.ca/news/7085230/bc-health-care-racist-allegations/?utm_source=NewsletterNational&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=2020
Former Representative for Children and Youth Mary Ellen Turpel-Lafond to lead the investigation that will start Monday, he said.
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The province is investigating reports of health-care staff playing a racist game betting on the blood alcohol level of mainly Indigenous patients they were treating, according to Health Minister Adrian Dix.
"The allegation is that a game was being played to investigate the blood alcohol level of patients in the emergency rooms, in particular with Indigenous people and perhaps others. And if true, it is intolerable and racist and of course (has) affected profoundly patient care," Dix told reporters at a news conference in Vancouver on Friday morning.
//https://globalnews.ca/news/7085230/bc-health-care-racist-allegations/?utm_source=NewsletterNational&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=2020
Former Representative for Children and Youth Mary Ellen Turpel-Lafond to lead the investigation that will start Monday, he said.
How immature, and unprofessional.
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The province is investigating reports of health-care staff playing a racist game betting on the blood alcohol level of mainly Indigenous patients they were treating, according to Health Minister Adrian Dix.
"The allegation is that a game was being played to investigate the blood alcohol level of patients in the emergency rooms, in particular with Indigenous people and perhaps others. And if true, it is intolerable and racist and of course (has) affected profoundly patient care," Dix told reporters at a news conference in Vancouver on Friday morning.
//https://globalnews.ca/news/7085230/bc-health-care-racist-allegations/?utm_source=NewsletterNational&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=2020
Former Representative for Children and Youth Mary Ellen Turpel-Lafond to lead the investigation that will start Monday, he said.
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What's wrong with having some fun as long as they treat they patient.
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The province is investigating reports of health-care staff playing a racist game betting on the blood alcohol level of mainly Indigenous patients they were treating, according to Health Minister Adrian Dix.
"The allegation is that a game was being played to investigate the blood alcohol level of patients in the emergency rooms, in particular with Indigenous people and perhaps others. And if true, it is intolerable and racist and of course (has) affected profoundly patient care," Dix told reporters at a news conference in Vancouver on Friday morning.
//https://globalnews.ca/news/7085230/bc-health-care-racist-allegations/?utm_source=NewsletterNational&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=2020
Former Representative for Children and Youth Mary Ellen Turpel-Lafond to lead the investigation that will start Monday, he said.
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What's wrong with having some fun as long as they treat they patient.
Emergency rooms are not an appropriate place for controversial humour and childish games.
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The province is investigating reports of health-care staff playing a racist game betting on the blood alcohol level of mainly Indigenous patients they were treating, according to Health Minister Adrian Dix.
"The allegation is that a game was being played to investigate the blood alcohol level of patients in the emergency rooms, in particular with Indigenous people and perhaps others. And if true, it is intolerable and racist and of course (has) affected profoundly patient care," Dix told reporters at a news conference in Vancouver on Friday morning.
//https://globalnews.ca/news/7085230/bc-health-care-racist-allegations/?utm_source=NewsletterNational&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=2020
Former Representative for Children and Youth Mary Ellen Turpel-Lafond to lead the investigation that will start Monday, he said.
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Any videos?
Its not racist..
Its just unprofessional.
People trust their secrets to these "professionals" and they are acting like kids.
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Any videos?
If you mean of the betting itself, not in the public domain
If you mean info on it, there is a video in the link
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Any videos?
If you mean of the betting itself, not in the public domain
If you mean info on it, there is a video in the link
Without video evidence, how can they confirm this?
Witnesses .. apparently there are several
This just came to light and details so far are scant - "game betting on the blood alcohol level of mainly Indigenous patients"
Next week is investigation - I assume after that details will flow
It is unusual in today's world there are not videos taken by witnesses sprayed all over the place
Dix has proven to be a very reliable and cool handling Health Minister
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The president of Métis Nation BC is recommending the province create a tip line for anyone who's seen or experienced racism in the health-care system.
Clara Morin Dal Col says ever since Health Minister Adrian Dix announced allegations of racism in the health-care system, Métis Nation BC has been flooded with calls "from health-care staff who have witnessed this and had stories to tell, but were afraid to lose their jobs."
Métis Nation CEO Daniel Fontaine said he notified the province when he heard about the allegations around the so-called "Price is Right" game.
He said he is also aware of reports from 2019 that "catalog literally dozens of incidents, almost as egregious as what we've heard with this Price is Right game."
"There are documented cases with the government's own health workers who are indicating that this is systemic and it will require some significant changes and it may even require some people being removed from the health-care system if, in fact, it can be proven that they were participating in racist activities," he said.
https://globalnews.ca/news/7091005/bc-health-care-racism-tip-line-recommendation/?utm_source=NewsletterBc&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=2020
This is what I would expect from undergrad university kids, not medical professionals.
The medical professionals are often the types who want to be nurses because it is an easy indoor job..
And to some, its a calling.. They are good.
Hence there is a lot of abuse..
Again, its an issue of giving too much power to a worm.
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The president of Métis Nation BC is recommending the province create a tip line for anyone who's seen or experienced racism in the health-care system.
Clara Morin Dal Col says ever since Health Minister Adrian Dix announced allegations of racism in the health-care system, Métis Nation BC has been flooded with calls "from health-care staff who have witnessed this and had stories to tell, but were afraid to lose their jobs."
Métis Nation CEO Daniel Fontaine said he notified the province when he heard about the allegations around the so-called "Price is Right" game.
He said he is also aware of reports from 2019 that "catalog literally dozens of incidents, almost as egregious as what we've heard with this Price is Right game."
Gawd knows, I am not easily offended. However, doctors and nurses should not be playing adolescent games with patients.
We got active serial-killers in our hospitals..
The cops are investigating patient deaths as murders now.
Can't find an update since June 20 when it came out
at that time it was stated that Province is doing investigation so I guess nothing new till results
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Can't find an update since June 20 when it came out
at that time it was stated that Province is doing investigation so I guess nothing new till results
We'll have to wait.
Things are a happening
An independent investigator tasked by the B.C. government to look into allegations of racism against Indigenous people in B.C.'s health-care system is promising privacy protection to any victims or workers who come forward.
Mary Ellen Turpel-Lafond was originally hired to look into an allegation of a game being played in an emergency room where staff guessed the blood-alcohol level of mainly Indigenous patients.
"Anyone working in the health care system that needs to share their experience and story with what they may have been a bystander to or participated in, I encourage you to share that information," Turpel-Lafond said.
"You will face no recrimination in your workplace for doing that. You have my sincere pledge on that. That's a very strong stand, and the Minister of Health has also affirmed that."
Health Minister Adrian Dix told Turpel-Lafond she was able to expand the investigation if she felt it is warranted.
"This report will be acted on. That is essential, that is important, and that is why we're asking, in particular, indigenous people across British Columbia, but also health professionals to engage with this so we can make our health care system better and safer for everybody," Dix said.
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Things are a happening
An independent investigator tasked by the B.C. government to look into allegations of racism against Indigenous people in B.C.'s health-care system is promising privacy protection to any victims or workers who come forward.
Mary Ellen Turpel-Lafond was originally hired to look into an allegation of a game being played in an emergency room where staff guessed the blood-alcohol level of mainly Indigenous patients.
"Anyone working in the health care system that needs to share their experience and story with what they may have been a bystander to or participated in, I encourage you to share that information," Turpel-Lafond said.
"You will face no recrimination in your workplace for doing that. You have my sincere pledge on that. That's a very strong stand, and the Minister of Health has also affirmed that."
Health Minister Adrian Dix told Turpel-Lafond she was able to expand the investigation if she felt it is warranted.
"This report will be acted on. That is essential, that is important, and that is why we're asking, in particular, indigenous people across British Columbia, but also health professionals to engage with this so we can make our health care system better and safer for everybody," Dix said.
I hope they get to the bottom of this and if these things did happen, discipline medical staff who participated in those juvenile games.
it's not the games themselves that bothers me, it's the strong prejudice behind it affecting care
leaving the questions they are be looking into -
"how much does that degree of prejudice influence the care they give people they feel so strongly negative about" ...
"how many legit illnesses were not examined and just written off as alcohol"
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it's not the games that bothers me, it's the strong prejudice that cause the games to take place
leaving the questions they are be looking into -
"how much does that degree of prejudice influence the care they give people they feel so strongly negative about" ...
like "how many legit illnesses were not examined and just written off as alcohol"
Prejudice leading to distasteful games....neither has any place in the delivery of health care.
I aint no snowflake, but that shit does not belong inside a hospital dealing with patients needing emergency care.
It's only snowflakes who need to be taught how to actually understand general fairness and caring
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I aint no snowflake, but that shit does not belong inside a hospital dealing with patients needing emergency care.
They must have been white. East and South Asian doctors have respect for the medical profession.
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I aint no snowflake, but that shit does not belong inside a hospital dealing with patients needing emergency care.
They must have been white. East and South Asian doctors have respect for the medical profession.
That's ridiculous.
Shen musta had a REALLY bad day :sad:
Did Taiwan take over China?
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Shen musta had a REALLY bad day :sad:
Did Taiwan take over China?
Not yet.
:laugh:
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I aint no snowflake, but that shit does not belong inside a hospital dealing with patients needing emergency care.
They must have been white. East and South Asian doctors have respect for the medical profession.
Read this.
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2019/04/25/north-york-doctor-arrested-after-allegedly-sexually-assaulting-female-patient-during-physical-exam.html
Toronto police have arrested a North York doctor who allegedly sexually assaulted a patient during a physical examination, saying they are concerned there may be other victims.
In a Thursday news release, police allege a 40-year-old female patient was sexually assaulted during a May 5, 2014, examination at the doctor's office in the area of Bathurst St. and Sheppard Ave. W.
Police first received a complaint about the incident from the alleged victim on Dec. 4, 2018, Toronto police Const. Jenifferjit Sidhu said.
[size=150]Romeo Tan,[/size] 59, of Kleinburg, was arrested on Wednesday.
Are the drunks mainly indigenous people, any stats on that? Are there any other "races" coming into emergency drunk? Stupid game no doubt and deserves disciplinary action, but it will continue to be pushed as racist regardless of being true or not.
Everything has to be racist now. :rules:
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Are the drunks mainly indigenous people, any stats on that? Are there any other "races" coming into emergency drunk? Stupid game no doubt and deserves disciplinary action, but it will continue to be pushed as racist regardless of being true or not.
Everything has to be racist now. :rules:
In areas where there is a large Aboriginal populations, the alcoholics coming into emergency rooms would most likely be indigenous..
I doubt they are allowed to record the race or ethnicity of people coming into emergency rooms.
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Are the drunks mainly indigenous people, any stats on that? Are there any other "races" coming into emergency drunk? Stupid game no doubt and deserves disciplinary action, but it will continue to be pushed as racist regardless of being true or not.
Everything has to be racist now. :rules:
Agreed "Everything has to be racist now". That said, the "game" is dumb and demeaning.
We all know alcohol is a problem on reserves, but that does not mean we need to make fun of people. For many, I suspect the answer is yes
Biggest concern is human nature. If staff feel patients are inferior or even worthless, will they provide less care?
Seems the problem with alcohol on reserves will never go away, and that is sad.
Mate, I and his crew spent entire spring & summer on the Cowessess Reserve north of Broadview Sask & lived there
Had 8 locals hired on construction crew
Never saw a drunk at all. day or night
Not sure why some reserves are so bad with booze. This one had a very nice golf course and clubhouse for tourists and made money
Pro Shop had first class goodies - That was 20 yrs ago and we still wear sweaters, cowboy hats and jackets we bought there, quality was that good
Maybe they had better management over a long time .. Everything was first class
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Mate, I and his crew spent entire spring & summer on the Cowessess Reserve north of Broadview Sask & lived there
Had 8 locals hired on construction crew
Never saw a drunk at all. day or night
Not sure why some reserves are so bad with booze. This one had a very nice golf course and clubhouse for tourists and made money
Maybe they had better management over a long time .. Everything was first class
I have hired and fired a lot of Indians. Most were good workers, but most had a problem showing up for work everyday.
When we do work on reserves, we have to hire locals, and sometimes that means taking whatever idiots show up.
Do you know the reserve we worked for? Cowessess N of Broadview
It owned Last Oak Golf Course that we did a very large project for
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Do you know the reserve we worked for? Cowessess N of Broadview
It owned Last Oak Golf Course that we did a very large project for
I know of it. I heard it was one of the better managed reserves. I never did any oilfield work on it.
They got us a nice cottage on the lake .. was a great summer for us .. and we made a few sheckels
The Qu'Appelle Valley is lovely .. several 100 feet below the prairie and cooler in summer
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They got us a nice cottage on the lake .. was a great summer for us .. and we made a few sheckels
The Qu'Appelle Valley is lovely .. several 100 feet below the prairie and cooler in simmer
You gotta like that.
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Are the drunks mainly indigenous people, any stats on that? Are there any other "races" coming into emergency drunk? Stupid game no doubt and deserves disciplinary action, but it will continue to be pushed as racist regardless of being true or not.
Everything has to be racist now. :rules:
Agreed "Everything has to be racist now". That said, the "game" is dumb and demeaning.
We all know alcohol is a problem on reserves, but that does not mean we need to make fun of people. For many, I suspect the answer is yes
Biggest concern is human nature. If staff feel patients are inferior or even worthless, will they provide less care?
Seems the problem with alcohol on reserves will never go away, and that is sad.
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Racism is a broad term in 2020.