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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: Anonymous on November 03, 2013, 12:58:59 PM

Title: BBC Cools On Global Warming
Post by: Anonymous on November 03, 2013, 12:58:59 PM
Gore, Suzuki, Greenpeace and Hansen must worry about their financial empires these days.
QuoteIf there were a webcam in Hades, I would imagine we could all tune to watch Satan shivering in the eternal lake of fire (which itself would have lost its inferno).



Hell has frozen over.



The BBC has reported it is "more likely than not" that the Earth is entering a period of intense cooling.Why is this so remarkable? Because as much as any news outlet in the world, the British Broadcasting Corporation has been a cheerleader for global warming alarmism for the past 15 years.



No, that's the wrong analogy.



Cheerleaders are largely appealing characters. The BBC has been more like an inquisitor, cruelly enforcing the alleged global warming consensus with a sadistic glee.



The Brit equivalent of our own CBC, the Beeb has, if anything, been even more sneering, smug and condescending than Canada's Mother Corp toward those who dared question the "settled science" about climate change.



The use of the word "deniers" to discredit global-warming skeptics — a word designed to smear doubters as the moral and intellectual equals of Holocaust deniers — appeared early and often at the BBC.



Four years ago, when e-mails leaked from the world's top climate scientists showing them frantically trying to cover up the fact that the Earth had stopped warming in about 1998 (at exactly the same time the UN was imposing the Kyoto accord on the developed world to limit carbon emissions), the BBC jumped into full defence mode.



It lauded the scientists who had been exposed. Rather than vain careerists who were fudging the data and endeavouring to keep their critics from being published in respected scientific journals, the Beeb portrayed them as brave knights attempting to slay the evil dragons of Big Oil and Big Carbon.



They were not serial dissemblers. No, to the BBC these climate scientists were victims of a smear campaign designed to preserve profits and prevent the world's governments from taking much needed action to preserve our planet.



They were treated with nearly as much saintly veneration as the CBC treats David Suzuki. How dare anyone doubt their veracity?



So it was gobsmacking this week to see the BBC report on the work of scientist Mike Lockwood of Reading University in the U.K.



Lockwood (and dozens of other scientists) believes the sun is about to enter a period of low activity unseen in the past 10,000 years. This could, in turn, lead to a prolonged period of global cooling the likes of which the Earth has not experienced in at least two or three centuries — long, brutal, snowy winters coupled with cool, wet, pathetic summers.



In other words, our climate might be in for a Little Ice Age, according to the BBC.




This isn't simply straight-up honest reporting. This amounts to a huge climb-down by the BBC which as recently as a year ago wasn't reporting on alternative theories about climate except to dismiss those theories' proponents as cranks and crackpots.



Nor is the solar-minimum theory something new. While the theory that carbon in the atmosphere causes dangerous global warming has only been believed in earnest for



25 years, scientists have known for centuries the sun goes through predictable peaks and valleys of its strength.



Also, for those who cared to listen (the BBC and most of the rest of the world's consensus media did its best not to listen), we have known that those solar peaks and valleys corresponded very closely to periods of warming and cooling around the world.



With the UN's own climb-down in September from its ironclad belief in the carbon/warming theory, it shouldn't be a surprise that alarmist institutions such as the BBC would also back off.



Still, it's a welcome development.

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2013/11/01/condescending-bbc-cools-on-global-warming
Title: Re: BBC Cools On Global Warming
Post by: Odinson on November 03, 2013, 01:04:30 PM
Shit.. Gotta move out of this place.
Title: Re: BBC Cools On Global Warming
Post by: Anonymous on November 03, 2013, 01:15:31 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"Shit.. Gotta move out of this place.

Just pay higher taxes to your government and global warming/cooling will not be a problem. :roll:
Title: Re: BBC Cools On Global Warming
Post by: Odinson on November 03, 2013, 01:27:16 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"Shit.. Gotta move out of this place.

Just pay higher taxes to your government and global warming/cooling will not be a problem. :roll:


Nah I´m just gonna move to your next door.
Title: Re: BBC Cools On Global Warming
Post by: Anonymous on November 04, 2013, 05:24:22 PM
This article was in the WSJ. The EU alone is wasting a 1/4 of a trillion dollars per year on this scam with negligible success. Climate change alarmism is the greatest threat and biggest attack on working classes in the West I have ever seen in my life. You have big greedy labour, big greedy government, big greedy NGO's, corporations and hypocritical billionaires forcing working people in the West to reduce their consumption and pay more. What a scam!!
QuoteIn the long run, the world needs to cut carbon dioxide because it causes global warming. But if the main effort to cut emissions is through subsidies for chic renewables like wind and solar power, virtually no good will be achieved—at very high cost. The cost of climate policies just for the European Union—intended to reduce emissions by 2020 to 20% below 1990 levels—are estimated at about $250 billion annually. And the benefits, when estimated using a standard climate model, will reduce temperature only by an immeasurable one-tenth of a degree Fahrenheit by the end of the century.



Even in 2035, with the most optimistic scenario, the International Energy Agency estimates that just 2.4% of the world's energy will come from wind and only 1% from solar. As is the case today, almost 80% will still come from fossil fuels. As long as green energy is more expensive than fossil fuels, growing consumer markets like those in China and India will continue to use them, despite what well-meaning but broke Westerners try to do.
Title: Re: BBC Cools On Global Warming
Post by: Romero on November 12, 2013, 04:09:28 PM
QuoteSo it was gobsmacking this week to see the BBC report on the work of scientist Mike Lockwood of Reading University in the U.K.

It was just some blog from a global warming denier. Doesn't mean the BBC itself doesn't believe in global warming, especially since global warming is happening.



Deniers always have to lie about what scientists say, since reality is so inconvenient.


QuoteThe sun's activity is in free fall, according to a leading space physicist. But don't expect a little ice age.



"Solar activity is declining very fast at the moment," Mike Lockwood, a professor of space environmental physics at Britain's Reading University, said, "we estimate faster than at any time in the last 9,300 years."



Lockwood thinks there is now a 25 percent chance of a repetition of the last grand minimum, the late-17th-century Maunder Minimum, when there were no sunspots for 70 years. Two years ago, Lockwood put the chances of this happening at less than 10 percent.



But Lockwood says we should not expect a new grand minimum to bring on a new little ice age. Human-induced global warming, he says, is already a more important force in global temperatures than even major solar cycles. Temperatures have risen by about 1.5 degrees since 1880, with more warming expected, according to the most recent assessment of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.



//http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/sun-activity-is-in-free-fall-but-you-shouldnt-expect-a-new-little-ice-age/2013/11/11/19166b42-4599-11e3-a196-3544a03c2351_story.html?wprss=rss_national

Mike Lockwood believes the world is going to continue to warm, not cool.
Title: Re: BBC Cools On Global Warming
Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2013, 04:37:58 PM
That was a distortion of what Lockwood's findings by some biased source. Big money warm mongers need to lie and create non-existent emergencies or their financial empires would quickly crumble. Gloom and doom computer models about Arctic sea ice collapsed as the the Arctic added 60% more new ice in one year. Walt Meier, a glaciologist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md were all wrong or flat out lied to us.


QuoteReal risk of a Maunder Minimum 'Little Ice Age,'" announced the BBC this week, in reporting startling findings by Professor Mike Lockwood of Reading University. "Professor Lockwood believes solar activity is now falling more rapidly than at any time in the last 10,000 years [raising the risk of a new Little Ice Age] from less than 10% just a few years ago to 25-30%," explained Paul Hudson, the BBC's climate correspondent. If Earth is spared a new Little Ice Age, a severe cooling as "occurred in the early 1800s, which also had its fair share of cold winters and poor summers, is, according to him, 'more likely than not' to happen."



During the Little Ice Age, the Sun became eerily quiet, as measured by a near disappearance of the sunspots that are typically present. Solar scientists around the world today see similar conditions, giving impetus to the widespread view that cold times lie ahead. "When we have had periods where the Sun has been quieter than usual we tend to get these much harsher winters" echoed climatologist Dennis Wheeler from Sunderland University, in a Daily Express article entitled "Now get ready for an 'Ice Age' as experts warn of Siberian winter ahead."



Scientists at the Climate and Environmental Physics and Oeschger Centre for Climate Change Research at the University of Berne in Switzerland back up theories that support the Sun's importance in determining the climate on Earth. In a paper published this month by the American Meteorological Society, the authors demolish the claims by IPCC scientists that the Sun couldn't be responsible for major shifts in climate. In a post on her website this month, Judith Curry, Chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology, all-but mocked the IPCC assertions that solar variations don't matter. Among the many studies and authorities she cited: the National Research Council's recent report, "The Effects of Solar Variability on Earth's Climate," and NASA, former home of global warming guru James Hansen.



As NASA highlighted in a press release in January of this year, in citing the NRC report on solar variations: "There is, however, a dawning realization among researchers that even these apparently tiny variations can have a significant effect on terrestrial climate." To bolster the argument that solar activity could explain the Little Ice Age as well as lesser changes, NASA then listed some dozen authorities, including Dan Lubin of the Scripps Institution of Oceanography, whose research on other sun-like stars in the Milky Way suggest that "the Sun's influence could be overpowering."



In the last two years, the scientific community's openness to examining the role of the Sun in climate change – as opposed to the role of man – has exploded. Scientists are now rediscovering earlier works by scientists at the Danish National Space Center who as early as the 1990s published peer-reviewed articles demonstrating the Sun's role in climate change. And by scientists at the Russian Academy of Sciences' Pulkovo Observatory, whose predictions in the last decade that global cooling would start in this decade are looking especially prescient.



All will be rediscovering the science of the 1960s and 1970s, which even earlier sounded the alarm on the coming period of global cooling. Those early scientists expected the cooling trend of the 1960s and 1970s to relent for several decades, as it in fact did. "None of us expected uninterrupted continuation of the trend," explained Columbia University's George Kukla in 2007, whose 1972 letter to the president triggered the U.S. government's decision to take immediate action on the threat of global cooling.



Global warming always precedes an ice age, Kukla explained. The warming we saw in the 1980s and 1990s, in other words, was expected all along, much as the calm before the storm.

http://opinion.financialpost.com/2013/10/31/lawrence-solomon-a-global-cooling-consensus/

Global warming dishonesty and fear mongering is the biggest attack on working people in the West that I have ever seen in my life. In the EU alone it is draining $250 billion yearly from working families.



We have had more than a decade and half pause in global warming. It is time Westerners started standing up to the big companies, big governments, big NGO's and crony capitalists who are robbing us blind with fake "science".
Title: Re: BBC Cools On Global Warming
Post by: Romero on November 12, 2013, 05:19:50 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"That was a distortion of what Lockwood's findings by some biased source.

Let's find out from Lockwood himself!


QuoteSolar Activity and the so-called "Little Ice Age"

by Professor Mike Lockwood



I'm a professor of space environment physics and a director of research at the University of Reading in the UK. My particular topic of research is the sun, how it changes over time and how those changes affect the space environment, the weather and the climate on Earth.



The sun's activity rises and falls on an approximately 11-year cycle, but also varies on century-long timescales. It's this research I talked to BBC weatherman Paul Hudson about in an interview for the BBC's Inside Out programme.



Unfortunately, I now find myself in the position of being cited as predicting that the current rapid decline in solar activity will plunge the world into a "Little Ice Age".



This is very disappointing as it is not at all supported by the science.



There is very little evidence that the lower global mean temperatures between 1400 and 1800 were caused by solar activity - there's more evidence it was associated with volcanic activity and/or internal oscillations in the climate system.



During the Maunder minimum there were an unusually large number of cold winters in Europe. However, there is no evidence that this was a global phenomenon. Indeed, our research strongly suggests it was a regional phenomenon and that the colder winters in Europe would have been accompanied by warmer ones elsewhere, for example Greenland.



Calling this period of more frequent cold European winters a "Little Ice Age" or a "mini Ice Age" is hugely misleading as it implies Europe experienced unremitting cold throughout the Maunder minimum. This is completely wrong.



So what do we think the effect of a return to Maunder minimum conditions on global mean temperatures would be? The answer is very little.



We found the likely reduction in warming by 2100 would be between 0.06 and 0.1 degrees Celsius, a very small fraction of the warming we're due to experience as a result of human activity.



//http://www.carbonbrief.org/blog/2013/11/solar-activity-and-the-so-called-%E2%80%9Clittle-ice-age%E2%80%9D/
Title: Re: BBC Cools On Global Warming
Post by: cc on November 12, 2013, 07:42:04 PM
QuoteWe found the likely reduction in warming by 2100 would be between 0.06 and 0.1 degrees Celsius, a very small fraction of the warming we're due to experience as a result of human activity.

"we're due to" = future =  speculation only .. and we all know where speculation of those who WANT us to believe in warming gets us
Title: Re: BBC Cools On Global Warming
Post by: cc on November 12, 2013, 07:48:08 PM
Quote....And the benefits, when estimated using a standard climate model, will reduce temperature only by an immeasurable one-tenth of a degree Fahrenheit by the end of the century.



Even in 2035, with the most optimistic scenario, the International Energy Agency estimates that just 2.4% of the world's energy will come from wind and only 1% from solar. As is the case today, almost 80% will still come from fossil fuels. As long as green energy is more expensive than fossil fuels, growing consumer markets like those in China and India will continue to use them, despite what well-meaning but broke Westerners try to do.
Title: Re: BBC Cools On Global Warming
Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2013, 08:18:10 PM
But should North Western Europe be heading for a new "little ice age", there could be far reaching political implications[/b]..."



Lockwood may not like the results of his own research, but common sense tells us falling common solar activity=cooling effect.
Title: Re: BBC Cools On Global Warming
Post by: Romero on November 12, 2013, 10:58:24 PM
Lockwood never said that quote. It was written by the climate change denying author.



Lockwood hasn't been contradictory. He has always said the research shows solar activity has only a fraction of an effect compared to global warming. He has always believed the Maunder minimum may have a slight cooling effect regionally but not globally. He has always believed that colder period in Europe was likely caused by volcanic activity and natural patterns.



He has never said there is or will be global cooling and he has certainly never said there will be a new "ice age".



Funny how the climate change denying author claimed things that Lockwood never said or meant. And now that Lockwood has confirmed that he's had the same position all along, deniers are calling it "curious"! The author is the one who put words into Lockhart's mouth.



It's like all those articles screaming "IPCC admits no global warming". The IPCC has never said such a thing. These claims are just made up by those who can't handle the reality. Why else would they have to lie about what the experts are really saying?
Title: Re: BBC Cools On Global Warming
Post by: Anonymous on November 13, 2013, 01:39:48 AM
^^Lockwood's own research concludes that solar activity will impact the climate despite how many failed computer models the IPCC throws out. He's not alone in this, a growing body of scientists such as Danish astrophysicist Henrik Svensmark, Irish solar specialist Ian Elliott and Mojib Latif from the University of Kiel are bringing natural variations and thus real science back into this.



Speaking of failed gloom and doom predictions, it has been 100 years since the father of global warming made predictions equally  as ridiculous as the ones being made now by James Hansen.

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I hope you enjoyed your global warming while it lasted.
Title: Re: BBC Cools On Global Warming
Post by: Romero on November 13, 2013, 02:08:11 PM
QuoteGreenland reaps benefits of global warming



Inside the Arctic Circle, a chef is growing the kind of vegetables and herbs – potatoes, thyme, tomatoes, green peppers – more fitted for a suburban garden in a temperate zone than a land of northern lights, glaciers and musk oxen. Some Inuit hunters are finding reindeer fatter than ever thanks to more grazing on this frozen tundra, and, for some, there is no longer a need to trek hours to find wild herbs.



This is climate change in Greenland, where locals say longer and warmer summers mean the country can grow the kind of crops unheard of years ago. "Things are just growing quicker," said Kim Ernst, the Danish chef of Roklubben restaurant, nestled by a frozen lake near a former Cold War-era US military base. "Every year we try new things," added Mr Ernst, who even managed to grow a handful of strawberries that he served to some surprised Scandinavian royals. "I came here in 1999 and no one would have dreamed of doing this. But now the summer days seem warmer, and longer."



//http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/greenland-reaps-benefits-of-global-warming-8555241.html

QuoteAlberta corn now stretches 
from Taber to the Peace



Alberta's corn crop has been spreading out of its traditional pocket in the south, but recently it's taken a big leap all the the way up to the Peace. Recently the Peace Country Beef & Forage Association hosted a field day at the farm of Lawrence and Lori Andruchiw near Spirit River to hear about their experience with corn growing.




//http://www.agcanada.com/albertafarmer/2012/10/05/alberta-corn-now-stretches-%E2%80%A8from-taber-to-the-peace%E2%80%A9/

QuoteSiberian agriculture could benefit from climate change



Some nations, like Russia and northern parts of China, may actually benefit from climate change. We, a team of scientists from the Siberian branch of the Russian Academy of Sciences and the National Institute of Aerospace in the US, have based our hypothesis on previous studies that showed that the Siberian forest would shift northwards by the end of this century. These analyses also suggest that at least half of central Siberia would be occupied by steppe and forest-steppe that may become suitable for agriculture as the climate warms.



From available data, we also found that crop yields increased from 1960 to 2010 in the south of Siberia.



//http://environmentalresearchweb.org/cws/article/news/48491

Quote2013 Set To Be One Of The Hottest Years Ever



This year is on track to be one of the hottest since record keeping began, according to a report released Wednesday by the World Meteorological Association. The report also found that global sea levels reached a record high in March 2013 and extreme weather events continued to devastate communities around the world.



Rising sea levels are already wreaking havoc on coastal communities, making them a target for increased storm surges and coastal flooding. The most recent example of this trend is the tragic toll of Typhoon Haiyan in the Philippines, possibly the most powerful storm ever recorded.



//http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/11/13/2933271/2013-heat-sea-level/
Title: Re: BBC Cools On Global Warming
Post by: Odinson on November 13, 2013, 02:31:45 PM
Warmer climate is cheaper...



Bikini chicas!! Woohooo!!



You females should go bare ass naked so that we get the natural feeling.
Title: Re: BBC Cools On Global Warming
Post by: Anonymous on November 13, 2013, 05:26:25 PM
QuoteGreen Madness: Climate Policies To Add 41% To Electricity Prices By 2030

Date: 13/10/13

Jim Pickard, Financial Times



Britain's "energy and climate change" policies – including subsidies for wind farms and nuclear power stations – will add 41 per cent to the price of electricity in the UK by 2030 according to forecasts by the energy department.



Green measures including billions of pounds of subsidy for low-carbon generation will lift the price of electricity from £149 to £210 per MwH, the government's own officials have predicted.


QuoteMet Office Data Shows Global Warming Standstill As IPCC Confirms Global Temperature Has Stopped Rising

Date: 29/09/13

The global warming 'pause' has now lasted for almost 17 years and shows no sign of ending – despite the unexplained failure of climate scientists' computer models to predict it.

http://www.thegwpf.org/met-office-data-shows-global-warming-standstill-ipcc-confirms-global-temperature-stopped-rising/


QuoteIPCC Fails To Come Clean Over Global Temperature Standstill

Date: 27/09/13



The Global Warming Policy Foundation is criticising the IPCC for its deliberate attempt to obscure the reality of an ongoing temperature standstill and its failure to come clean about the failure of its models.



The IPCC has decided to discount the global warming standstill since 1997 as irrelevant and has deleted from its final document its original acknowledgement (in its 7 June draft) that climate models have failed to 'reproduce the observed reduction in surface warming trend over the last 10-15 years.'



Not only has the IPCC failed to predict the ongoing temperature standstill, its climate models actually predicted accelerated warming due to the increase of CO2 emissions.

http://www.thegwpf.org/ipcc-fails-clean-global-temperature-standstill/


QuoteAnd now it's global COOLING! Return of Arctic ice cap as it grows by 29% in a year

533,000 more square miles of ocean covered with ice than in 2012

BBC reported in 2007 global warming would leave Arctic ice-free in summer by 2013

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/And-global-COOLING-Return-Arctic-ice-cap-grows-29-year.html


QuoteApril 2013 - March 2013 was the second coldest March in the UK record since 1910, and was associated with a negative phase of the North Atlantic Oscillation. A number of potential drivers may predispose the climate system to a state which accounts for these conditions.



This March has been the coldest since 1962 in the UK in the national record dating back to 1910 (Figure 1). Provisional figures indicate that the UK mean temperature was 2.2 °C, which is 3.3 °C below the long term 1981-2010 average. Figure 2 also illustrate that the whole of the UK was colder than normal.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/news/cold-spring-2013


QuoteNASA Announces New Record Growth Of Antarctic Sea Ice Extent

 

Researchers have measured a new record for sea-ice extent in the Antarctic.



New measurements have now confirmed that. As the U.S. space agency NASA announced, the sea ice in the Antarctic has extended over an area of ​​19.47 million square meters at the end of September. That is the highest since measurements began in 1979.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/10/22/nasa-announces-new-record-growth-of-antarctic-sea-ice-extent/


QuoteReality Check: Sea level rise not accelerating

Date: 08/06/11

A paper published yesterday in the Journal of Geophysical Research – Oceans, confirms other studies of tide gauge records which show that there has been no statistically significant acceleration in sea level rise over the past 100+ years, in contrast to statements of the IPCC and Al Gore. Sea levels have been rising naturally since the end of the last major ice age 20,000 years ago, and the rate of rise began to decelerate about 8,000 years ago


QuoteAtlantic hurricane season quietest in 45 years — 'It has been one of the weakest seasons since modern record-keeping began about half a century ago

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/10/24/atlantic-hurricane-season-quietest-in-45-years-it-has-been-one-of-the-weakest-seasons-since-modern-record-keeping-began-about-half-a-century-ago/
Title: Re: BBC Cools On Global Warming
Post by: Anonymous on November 13, 2013, 06:32:11 PM
We all know there is lots of information on the internet that can support any position on climate change. I take a more moderate position about it. I accept the world has warmed even if the amount varies widely depending on your source. I accept that man has played a part in it too. The amount that man contributed to it is open for debate. Does this mean I accept that we can dramatically reverse this trend by slashing fossil fuel usage by unrealistic figures? Not very likely. Do I think massive carbon reduction trreaties will have much affect on C02 emissions? No way, the West cheats and the developing world will cheat even more.



What I don't accept are exaggerated claims based on cherry picked data by both extremes on this issue. I will not fall for more misleading predictions with the intent to scare me into submission on this subject. I also won't fall for the other side using just as misleading 'science' telling us that an ice age is at hand. Let's have some balance here people. Continued conservation is good for the planet and does not cost a fortune like some of the Ontario Liberal parties disastrous green shemes.
Title: Re: BBC Cools On Global Warming
Post by: Romero on November 14, 2013, 02:09:01 AM
QuoteGreenhouse gases are making the world's oceans hot, sour and breathless, and the way those changes work together is creating a grimmer outlook for global waters, according to a new report Wednesday from 540 international scientists.



The world's oceans are getting more acidic at an unprecedented rate, faster than at any time in the past 300 million years, the report said.



Scientists already had calculated how the oceans had become 26 percent more acidic since the 1880s because of the increased carbon in the water. They also previously had measured how the world's oceans had warmed because of carbon dioxide from the burning of coal, oil and gas.



The 26-page report released by the United Nations and several scientific research organizations brings together the latest ocean science on climate change, stemming from a major conference of ocean scientists last year.



//http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/13/climate-change-oceans_n_4270233.html

We know that the oceans have been getting warmer, it's what temperature readings have shown. We know that sea levels have risen, it's what satellite readings and tidal gauges have shown.



And we know that the oceans have been absorbing more CO2 and becoming more acidic.



The ocean's are friggin' huge. So if CO2 can affect the oceans...
Title: Re: BBC Cools On Global Warming
Post by: Anonymous on November 14, 2013, 07:11:16 PM
QuoteNew paper finds sea levels rising at less than 4 inches per century, with no acceleration: Study 'finds global mean sea levels rose at only 1 mm/year, equivalent to less than 4 inches per century, over the 203 year period from 1807-2010′ — 'The authors also find no evidence of acceleration of sea level rise, which indicates that there is no evidence of a human influence upon sea levels.



New paper finds sea levels rising at less than 4 inches per century, with no acceleration



http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2013/09/new-paper-finds-sea-levels-rising-at.html



A new paper finds global mean sea levels rose at only 1 mm/year, equivalent to less than 4 inches per century, over the 203 year period from 1807-2010. The finding is remarkably similar to the sea level rise of 1.1-1.3 mm/yr found by the NOAA 2005-2012 Sea Level Budget, the only sea level budget which reconciles both satellite [altimeters & GRACE] & ARGO float data.
Title: Re: BBC Cools On Global Warming
Post by: Odinson on November 14, 2013, 08:46:37 PM
Why is global warming a bad thing?



Yesterday my father celebrated the low heating costs.



Maybe someday we will get those tropical bikini babes here.



I´ll let them ride on muh bike.
Title: Re: BBC Cools On Global Warming
Post by: Romero on November 14, 2013, 09:16:53 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
QuoteNew paper finds sea levels rising at less than 4 inches per century, with no acceleration: Study 'finds global mean sea levels rose at only 1 mm/year, equivalent to less than 4 inches per century, over the 203 year period from 1807-2010′ — 'The authors also find no evidence of acceleration of sea level rise, which indicates that there is no evidence of a human influence upon sea levels.



New paper finds sea levels rising at less than 4 inches per century, with no acceleration



http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2013/09/new-paper-finds-sea-levels-rising-at.html



A new paper finds global mean sea levels rose at only 1 mm/year, equivalent to less than 4 inches per century, over the 203 year period from 1807-2010. The finding is remarkably similar to the sea level rise of 1.1-1.3 mm/yr found by the NOAA 2005-2012 Sea Level Budget, the only sea level budget which reconciles both satellite [altimeters & GRACE] & ARGO float data.

It's pretty funny how climate change deniers try to skew things. In this case they're actually acknowledging the rise in sea levels while pretending it's not happening at the same time. Since when is a rise not an acceleration?



Sea levels have risen less than 4 inches per century? That means they have indeed risen. Nearly 8 inches in the last 200 years according to the article. That's a lot.



Remarkably similar to the sea level rise found by NOAA? Let's see what NOAA has to say:


QuoteThere is strong evidence that global sea level is now rising at an increased rate and will continue to rise during this century.



While studies show that sea levels changed little from AD 0 until 1900, sea levels began to climb in the 20th century.



The two major causes of global sea-level rise are thermal expansion caused by the warming of the oceans (since water expands as it warms) and the loss of land-based ice (such as glaciers and polar ice caps) due to increased melting.



Records and research show that sea level has been steadily rising at a rate of 1 to 2.5 millimeters (0.04 to 0.1 inches) per year since 1900.



This rate may be increasing. Since 1992, new methods of satellite altimetry (the measurement of elevation or altitude) indicate a rate of rise of 3 millimeters (0.12 inches) per year.



This is a significantly larger rate than the sea-level rise averaged over the last several thousand years.



//http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html

61% of tide gauges demonstrate no change in sea level, 4% show a decrease and "a minority" of 35% show a rise.



Um, how exactly is 35% a minority compared to 4%? I'm pretty sure 4% would be the minority. According to those numbers there has been a rise in sea levels.
Title: Re: BBC Cools On Global Warming
Post by: Anonymous on November 14, 2013, 09:30:08 PM
Four inches per century and no acceleration of that hardly seems like an emergency to me. Seems well within historic norms. It's a long way off from the 1/4 to 1 metre rise IPCC models predicted based on various scenarios. It's also way off the 6 m rise in Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth.



The IPCC says sea-level increases up to 7 m above today's levels have happened naturally in the past climate and would only be likely to happen again after several millennia. In the next 100 years, according to calculations based on figures in the IPCC's 2007 report, the two ice sheets of West Antarctica or Greenland between them will add a little over 6 cm (2.5 inches) to sea level, not 6 m. Gore has accordingly exaggerated the official sea-level estimate by approaching 10,000 per cent.