Overall, how many Americans will have died of COVID by Labour Day 2020 (Sept. 7th)?
Currently approx 153,000.
I will go first;
203,255 in total.
I'll pass on that, thanks
Quote from: "Quizzy Quizerson" post_id=373429 time=1596083921
Overall, how many Americans will have died of COVID by Labour Day 2020 (Sept. 7th)?
Currently approx 153,000.
I will go first;
203,255 in total.
You can't trust American COVID figures.
Friends of ours got into an argument recently when their family member died from a quad bike rollover and their death was listed as COVID by some stupid and obstinate doctor.
I don't believe squat with yank figures.
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=373441 time=1596098042 user_id=1676
Friends of ours got into an argument recently when their family member died from a quad bike rollover and their death was listed as COVID by some stupid and obstinate doctor.
I don't believe squat with yank figures.
That wouldn't be unusual in the USA..
I don't believe any COVID numbers from that country.
The number of dead in the US are bullshit. Every death attributed to COVID in a hospital has federal aid dollars attached to it...The more deaths attributed to COVID the more federal money a hospital and state is eligible for.
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The number of dead in the US is bullshit. Every death attributed to COVID in a hospital has federal aid dollars attached to it...The more deaths attributed to COVID the more federal money a hospital and state is eligible for.
The numbers in the USA are so exaggerated.
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Quote from: Renee post_id=373447 time=1596106619 user_id=156
The number of dead in the US is bullshit. Every death attributed to COVID in a hospital has federal aid dollars attached to it...The more deaths attributed to COVID the more federal money a hospital and state is eligible for.
The numbers in the USA are so exaggerated.
I know of two people who's death certificates list COVID as a cause of death and I know for a fact that one of the deaths was due to pancreatic cancer. The individual was terminal and was hospitalized. While in Hospis care they tested positive for COVID but had no symptoms. They passed shortly after. Their death was coded at the hospital as COVID...pure bullshit.
This is happening all over the country...The death numbers are grossly inflated for monetary reasons.
People naturally want to disbelieve bad news.
Doubt all you want but buy your casket while you can.
I've been living like there is no virus.. No stress.
But they are actually making songs about the hardships of coronavirus..
Apparently this shit is as bad as the battle of Stalingrad.
Oh no....
I wonder what Herman Cain's guess is? It is a good thing that he stood by his beliefs and didn't wear a stupid mask to the June 20th Trump rally he attended in Tulsa, Oklahoma. He was admitted to hospital on July 1rst, and allegedly died because of the "hoax" on July 29th.
Now, inquiring minds want to know what he really died of. Maybe he was a victim of the Central Park 5? Too bad the Central Park 5 weren't executed like some were calling for back in 2002.
The family of Herman Cain demands justice.
Down with the Central Park 5!
Quote from: "Confederate Scientist" post_id=373466 time=1596135079
I wonder what Herman Cain's guess is? It is a good thing that he stood by his beliefs and didn't wear a stupid mask to the June 20th Trump rally he attended in Tulsa, Oklahoma. He was admitted to hospital on July 1rst, and allegedly died because of the "hoax" on July 29th.
Now, inquiring minds want to know what he really died of. Maybe he was a victim of the Central Park 5? Too bad the Central Park 5 weren't executed like some were calling for back in 2002.
The family of Herman Cain demands justice.
Down with the Central Park 5!
Herman Cain was seventy four and had stage four colon cancer. He is the type of person who should take precautions. Seasonal flu can be fatal for someone like that.
I am forty five and recovered from COVID-19.
Deadskin? Are you here?
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People naturally want to disbelieve bad news.
Doubt all you want but buy your casket while you can.
People will naturally believe what they are told if they don't understand the money involved.
During a meeting Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House Coronavirus Task Force response administrator, challenged the CDC Director in a heated conversation. Dr. Birx told Dr. Redfield, "There is nothing from the CDC that I can trust!" Frustrated with the CDC's virus data she said that the COVID-19 mortality rate is inflated by 25%.
https://greatgameindia.com/covid-19-mortality-rate-inflated-by-25/
But, if you want to buy a casket for a virus with death rate of about .4 in healthy people under sixty, spend away.
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Quote from: "Confederate Scientist" post_id=373466 time=1596135079
I wonder what Herman Cain's guess is? It is a good thing that he stood by his beliefs and didn't wear a stupid mask to the June 20th Trump rally he attended in Tulsa, Oklahoma. He was admitted to hospital on July 1rst, and allegedly died because of the "hoax" on July 29th.
Now, inquiring minds want to know what he really died of. Maybe he was a victim of the Central Park 5? Too bad the Central Park 5 weren't executed like some were calling for back in 2002.
The family of Herman Cain demands justice.
Down with the Central Park 5!
Herman Cain was seventy four and had stage four colon cancer. He is the type of person who should take precautions. Seasonal flu can be fatal for someone like that.
I am forty five and recovered from COVID-19.
Wow, didn't know that Herman Cain's cancer came back after being in remission for fourteen years and crept back and killed him as he said he was cancer free during the 2012 campaign. I also never knew there hasn't been a single covid related death to anyone 45 years of age or under.
Fascinating.
Mel, if you read a little, you'd know that that the death rate for people with past health problems such as cancer raises the possibility up to ten fold. Than there is Herman's age, another factor increasing the possibility of death.
I have observed people taking stands and spouting opinions and "facts" to suit their wishes / hopes while conveniently ignoring any other data .. whether for opening up or closing things down
This thread typifies society in general in that regard .. I'm used to researching and viewing things "as they are" .. whether I like what I find or not
No one mentions (or even finds) some of the horrendous and often lifetime damage to hearts, livers etc. etc. that this virus does to many "younger" & mid age people.
I even hear it referred to as "flu" .. which really pisses me off because in many cases it is a deadly destroyer of body parts and body systems
Some of the above conspiracy stuff is bad . . taking 1 or a few anomalies on counts and trying to tar all with it .. It's all just self needed "salve" for what one wants to hear
Can't blame people, it's human nature for things to be as one wants them to be .. but putting out self-serving info to others is another thing
Quote from: cc post_id=373488 time=1596140124 user_id=88
I have observed people taking stands and spouting opinions and "facts" to suit their wishes / hopes while conveniently ignoring any other data .. whether for opening up or closing things down
This thread typifies society in general in that regard
No one mentions (or even finds) some of the horrendous and often lifetime damage to hearts, livers etc. etc. that this virus does to many "younger" & mid age people.
I even hear it referred to as "flu" .. which really pisses me off because it is a destroyer of body parts and systems
Some of the above conspiracy stuff is also bad .. It's all just self needed words
Very few young people who catch this virus will die or have permanent damage. There is a middle aged ex smoker on this forum who made a full recovery, so a twenty five year old fit non smoker should not be scared shitless.
There are two big countries who's COVID stats I do not trust for one second: The US and China.
Whatever works for you
Quote from: cc post_id=373493 time=1596140721 user_id=88
Whatever works for you
Exactly. No point in arguing with anyone that has been brainwashed into buying the fake data coming from Washington and Beijing.
Quote from: Blurt post_id=373457 time=1596116111 user_id=1974
People naturally want to disbelieve bad news.
Doubt all you want but buy your casket while you can.
So, you believe everything about COVID from the states. You ignore the financial incentive to lie. The CDC cannot possibly mislead the public. It's people like you that make prog authoritarian regimes jobs so easy. It's why we screw working class people with carbon taxes.
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Quote from: cc post_id=373493 time=1596140721 user_id=88
Whatever works for you
Exactly. No point in arguing with anyone that has been brainwashed into buying the fake data coming from Washington and Beijing.
Exactly. No point in arguing with anyone that has been brainwashed into buying conspiracy crapola if it helps one's cause
Be honest. You are an "open upper" to the extreme, so "buy into" whatever supports that agenda.
So, why would you drag China in on me? By now you should know I'm as China-aware and as anti China as anyone on the planet
I'm enjoying this open forum sub. It tends to make me take no crap and call a spade a spade
and a white guy a white guy ac_biggrin
Herm's point is that American COVID data is as unreliable and agenda driven as China's.
I know that is his point. I'm just saying many "want" to believe what suits their agenda, so do
Quote from: cc post_id=373521 time=1596155799 user_id=88
I know that is his point. I'm just saying many "want" to believe that so do
The States and China both lie about COVID, but for different reasons.
I don't buy it.
Quote from: cc post_id=373526 time=1596156370 user_id=88
And that is what American government agencies want.
Quote from: cc post_id=373488 time=1596140124 user_id=88
I have observed people taking stands and spouting opinions and "facts" to suit their wishes / hopes while conveniently ignoring any other data .. whether for opening up or closing things down
This thread typifies society in general in that regard .. I'm used to researching and viewing things "as they are" .. whether I like what I find or not
No one mentions (or even finds) some of the horrendous and often lifetime damage to hearts, livers etc. etc. that this virus does to many "younger" & mid age people.
I even hear it referred to as "flu" .. which really pisses me off because in many cases it is a deadly destroyer of body parts and body systems
Some of the above conspiracy stuff is bad . . taking 1 or a few anomalies on counts and trying to tar all with it .. It's all just self needed "salve" for what one wants to hear
Can't blame people, it's human nature for things to be as one wants them to be .. but putting out self-serving info to others is another thing
Panic is a human nature too, cc...
Coupled with arrogance and a know it all condescending attitude doesn't weather well.
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=373529 time=1596156584 user_id=1676
Quote from: cc post_id=373488 time=1596140124 user_id=88
I have observed people taking stands and spouting opinions and "facts" to suit their wishes / hopes while conveniently ignoring any other data .. whether for opening up or closing things down
This thread typifies society in general in that regard .. I'm used to researching and viewing things "as they are" .. whether I like what I find or not
No one mentions (or even finds) some of the horrendous and often lifetime damage to hearts, livers etc. etc. that this virus does to many "younger" & mid age people.
I even hear it referred to as "flu" .. which really pisses me off because in many cases it is a deadly destroyer of body parts and body systems
Some of the above conspiracy stuff is bad . . taking 1 or a few anomalies on counts and trying to tar all with it .. It's all just self needed "salve" for what one wants to hear
Can't blame people, it's human nature for things to be as one wants them to be .. but putting out self-serving info to others is another thing
Panic is a human nature too, cc...
Coupled with arrogance and a know it all condescending attitude doesn't weather well.
And lies.
Well put Dinky.
It's human nature to believe what fits one's needs or wishes and to extrapolate 1 or 2 isolated examples into
"AHA!! See!! .. It's UGE I tell ya!!"
211,518 :howdy:
How many dead because of lock downs? I predict 20 million world wide.
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How many dead because of lock downs? I predict 20 million world wide.
Taiwan has had seven deaths with no hard lock down..
The USA had hard lock downs and who knows how many people have died from the virus....nearly as many as lock downs have caused.
I don't know or care.
We all will die..... some day.
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=373548 time=1596185267 user_id=1676
I don't know or care.
We all will die..... some day.
I do care. I do not want to die early. I don't care if it's the pain of lock downs or the Kung flu. I just became a grand daddy and I aint checking out soon.
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Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=373548 time=1596185267 user_id=1676
I don't know or care.
We all will die..... some day.
I do care. I do not want to die early. I don't care if it's the pain of lock downs or the Kung flu. I just became a grand daddy and I aint checking out soon.
Don't worry, only the good die young. You'll be fine. ac_biggrin
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Quote from: "Old Herman" post_id=373552 time=1596193229
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=373548 time=1596185267 user_id=1676
I don't know or care.
We all will die..... some day.
I do care. I do not want to die early. I don't care if it's the pain of lock downs or the Kung flu. I just became a grand daddy and I aint checking out soon.
Don't worry, only the good die young. You'll be fine. ac_biggrin
And those with bloated livers. I cut way back on the swish since my grand daughter was born.
I've heard rumours that CERB will be extended well into 2021...
Quote from: Herman post_id=373780 time=1596365352 user_id=1689
Quote from: Guest post_id=373779 time=1596364696
Quote from: "Old Herman" post_id=373552 time=1596193229
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=373548 time=1596185267 user_id=1676
I don't know or care.
We all will die..... some day.
I do care. I do not want to die early. I don't care if it's the pain of lock downs or the Kung flu. I just became a grand daddy and I aint checking out soon.
Don't worry, only the good die young. You'll be fine. ac_biggrin
And those with bloated livers. I cut way back on the swish since my grand daughter was born.
I've picked up your slack.... purely as a prophylactic measure for COVID... ac_smile
I'm afraid it does the opposite DD..
But, I know alcoholism is way since the pandemic started.
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I'm afraid it does the opposite DD..
But, I know alcoholism is way since the pandemic started.
I have a working theory...
ACE2 receptors are said to better fare under smokers...which I am as of 2-3 months ago, an ex...
Alcohol gel meant for viral destruction is around 70% strong, but I can't rationalize the cost, the side effects, or the lack of pulse chasing that....
....so, I stay on the nicotine patches....chew a couple pieces of gum per day in addition, and slowly sip whiskey.
ac_razz
This pandemic has expanded waistlines and livers..
That's what happens when people are locked for weeks or months.
All of my added weight has gone to my testicles... It's like a county fair tractor pull every time I have to go for a slash...
Quote from: Herman post_id=373780 time=1596365352 user_id=1689
Quote from: Guest post_id=373779 time=1596364696
Quote from: "Old Herman" post_id=373552 time=1596193229
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=373548 time=1596185267 user_id=1676
I don't know or care.
We all will die..... some day.
I do care. I do not want to die early. I don't care if it's the pain of lock downs or the Kung flu. I just became a grand daddy and I aint checking out soon.
Don't worry, only the good die young. You'll be fine. ac_biggrin
And those with bloated livers. I cut way back on the swish since my grand daughter was born.
So you've been sober for a grand total of a week.
Give us an update on your temperance in 6 months.