Wexit?
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Wexit?
I'm from Central Ontario, but there are posters here from Saskatchewan and Alberta that are sympathetic to the movement, and I can understand why.
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Wexit?
I'm from Central Ontario, but there are posters here from Saskatchewan and Alberta that are sympathetic to the movement, and I can understand why.
Herman is
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Wexit?
I'm from Central Ontario, but there are posters here from Saskatchewan and Alberta that are sympathetic to the movement, and I can understand why.
Herman is
Herman is what? A Wexit supporter? I think IHJ likes the idea too, but unfortunately he lives in Winnipeg.
yes he's a secessionist and most ppl west of Thunder Bay are except prog BC
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yes he's a secessionist and most ppl west of Thunder Bay are except prog BC
What about SE and NE BC. They work in resource industries. There could be some sympathy for the movement there.
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yes he's a secessionist and most ppl west of Thunder Bay are except prog BC
What about SE and NE BC. They work in resource industries. There could be some sympathy for the movement there.
yes and where mel lives too, its really only the lower mainland which is neo liberal and they will be taken over by the Chinese anyway
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yes he's a secessionist and most ppl west of Thunder Bay are except prog BC
What about SE and NE BC. They work in resource industries. There could be some sympathy for the movement there.
yes and where mel lives too, its really only the lower mainland which is neo liberal and they will be taken over by the Chinese anyway
Neoiberal?? I am a neoliberal. The last thing the radical leftists on the West Coast is a healthy dose of small government, low tax. prog growth neo-liberal economic reforms.
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yes he's a secessionist and most ppl west of Thunder Bay are except prog BC
What about SE and NE BC. They work in resource industries. There could be some sympathy for the movement there.
yes and where mel lives too, its really only the lower mainland which is neo liberal and they will be taken over by the Chinese anyway
Neoiberal?? I am a neoliberal. The last thing the radical leftists on the West Coast is a healthy dose of small government, low tax. prog growth neo-liberal economic reforms.
The Chinks are the only people on the Coast that don't vote NDP/Green.
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Wexit?
I'm from Central Ontario, but there are posters here from Saskatchewan and Alberta that are sympathetic to the movement, and I can understand why.
Herman is
I am a Wexit supporter. I went to a Wexit meeting down in Estevan. I am marking an X for them in the next federal election.
I believe Shen Li supports Wexit too..
She's never said she does, but I think so.
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yes he's a secessionist and most ppl west of Thunder Bay are except prog BC
Not so for this BC scoundrel
I'd leave in a heartbeat ac_hithere
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I believe Shen Li supports Wexit too..
She's never said she does, but I think so.
I think the only reason she supports wexit because splitting up Canada makes China more poweful
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yes he's a secessionist and most ppl west of Thunder Bay are except prog BC
Not so for this BC scoundrel
I'd leave in a heartbeat ac_hithere
You would have to move East as BC will never join Wexit. We would miss you. ac_crying
Shen li is a traitor and a Chinese shill
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I believe Shen Li supports Wexit too..
She's never said she does, but I think so.
I think the only reason she supports wexit because splitting up Canada makes China more poweful
Ya, so do I.
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yes he's a secessionist and most ppl west of Thunder Bay are except prog BC
Not so for this BC scoundrel
I'd leave in a heartbeat ac_hithere6
You would have to move East as BC will never join Wexit. We would miss you. ac_crying
If Canada is divisible, so are BC and Manitoba. Western Manitoba and Eastern BC want out of Canada and in on Wexit.
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yes he's a secessionist and most ppl west of Thunder Bay are except prog BC
Not so for this BC scoundrel
I'd leave in a heartbeat ac_hithere6
You would have to move East as BC will never join Wexit. We would miss you. ac_crying
If Canada is divisible, so are BC and Manitoba. Western Manitoba and Eastern BC want out of Canada and in on Wexit.
Eastern BC is not an independent legislative district (Province) it is part of the Province of British Columbia. Under the Constition of Canada there is no regional mechanism inside the law that will allow a town, municipality or any subdivision to separate from a Province. According to the SCC and International law, as clarified under [1998]2 SCR 217; 1998CanLll(SCC)(1998), 161DLR (1998) Provinces are not divisable. This means that small groups of disgruntalled assholes can't create their own autonomous zones within Provincial or Municipal jurisdiction.
Without laws like these anyone could claim political autonomy within any society or group. It is no different, in fact it is the same mindset that the Seattle "anarchists" liberating CHAZ from King County expouse declaring their "freedom". No, Northern BC is part of BC and will remain so. If the army and or police have to kill a few white haired terrorists and traitors so be it. If you don't like it leave, BC is indivisible, stay on your side of the Rockie you fucking Eastern pieces of shit.
In 1980, former pm PIerre remarked that Si le Canada est divisible, le Québec doit être aussi divisible." (This translates as, "If Canada is divisible, Quebec must also be divisible."
Look up the former Vancouver Island Party and the Parti Acadien in Northern New Brunswick for perspective.
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In 1980, former pm PIerre remarked that Si le Canada est divisible, le Québec doit être aussi divisible." (This translates as, "If Canada is divisible, Quebec must also be divisible."
Look up the former Vancouver Island Party and the Parti Acadien in Northern New Brunswick for perspective.
He was wrong. What Trudeau said in 1980 was proven incorrect with the SCC rulings from 1998, provinces are not divisable. That is the law. The ruling makes practical sense in that it prevents idiots and groups of idiots from creating independent fiefdoms within federal, provincial or local jurisdictions. There is no legal demarcation or definition of "Eastern BC" therefore, as a political entity there is no independence of "Eastern BC" from the Province of BC. Basically, you can't take what you don't own. Throw in unceeded FN claims, Provincial and Crown lands that make up the vast majority of rural BC and there is no legal or practical mechanism to Balkanize BC. The 1998 law specifically addressed these issues in it's rulings.
Two unsuccessful fringe groups that are afoul of the Constition and the law provide no perspective what so ever. For fun, take your farm and try to suceed from the Province of Saskatchewan and start your own country. See what happens.
BC will remain whole, whinners and crybabys are welcome to leave. They won't be missed.
The Peace River region of Northern BC is the wrong side of the rockies and has more in common with Alberta, in fact Alberta claims it
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yes he's a secessionist and most ppl west of Thunder Bay are except prog BC
Not so for this BC scoundrel
I'd leave in a heartbeat ac_hithere
You would have to move East as BC will never join Wexit. We would miss you. ac_crying
Actually, Wexit would be a loser move without BC's Pacific coast
Landlocked counties don't do well .. BC could squeeze it dry & get feelthy rich while y'all get poorer ac_smile
You better get busy and convince BC or you are done
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yes he's a secessionist and most ppl west of Thunder Bay are except prog BC
Not so for this BC scoundrel
I'd leave in a heartbeat ac_hithere
You would have to move East as BC will never join Wexit. We would miss you. ac_crying
Actually, Wexit would be a loser move without BC's Pacific coast
Landlocked counties don't do well .. BC could squeeze it dry & get feelthy rich while y'all get poorer ac_smile
You better get busy and convince BC or you are done
The rationale they use is that nations cannot block other nations from using their coasts for trade. That is considered an act of war.
But they can charge
Us jews know how to make us rich
Again, landlocked countries don't do well
Actually, BC might be an easier convert than you are thinking ..
Look @ the map. It would then become isolated from Canada, so why stay with Canada?
Think!! ^ use all advantages
Clearly you need a jew in charge to make it all happen at all or you will fall on your asses :wink:
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Again, landlocked countries don't do well
Austria, Hungary, Switzerland, it can be done.
ONLY because Europe is Europe .. and now EU
We are not Europe wankers .. not even close :sneaky2:
Again - Look @ the map. BC would then become isolated from Canada, so why stay with Canada 2000 miles of hostile land away ?
I don't think so.
Think!! ^ use all advantages
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ONLY because Europe is Europe .. and now EU
We are not Europe wankers .. not even close :sneaky2:
Again - Look @ the map. BC would then become isolated from Canada, so why stay with Canada 2000 miles of hostile land away ?
I don't think so.
Think!! ^ use all advantages
What BC does is up to them. I am just saying, as an independent nation, it would be hard for BC or Canada to block trade from Saskatchewan and Alberta.
Mongolia is landlocked too, and uses Russia's Vladivostok port.
What you don't get is the ports can get very err inefficient & costly for those considered hostile
Some strong platform, lol ... "We will kiss BC ass to make our venture work" ... not yer usual prairie guy stuff, eh?
I'm dead serious not just about that .. but also about BC faced with being 2000 miles away from the rest of Canada will have to look at things seriously.
The new prairie state would leverage the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea to gain coastal pipeline access.
If you don't get BC, you tough guys are fucked .. dead in your tracks .. all you would do is make BC rich and yourselves poor
Start kissing our asses to join before you go down in flames
Anyhow, as I said BC would be easy to get to join as alternative is being separated by 2000 miles from the rest of the country
In the real world ... a very bad alternative
not gonna happen
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If you don't get BC, you tough guys are fucked .. dead in your tracks .. all you would do is make BC rich and yourselves poor
Start kissing our asses to join before you go down in flames
Anyhow, as I said BC would be easy to get to join as alternative is being separated by 2000 miles from the rest of the country
In the real world ... a very bad alternative
not gonna happen
Did you read what I posted. BC, Canada can no longer block our trade. The new prairie state has a legal mechanism to challenge an act of war like that.
On the flip side, it protects Canada too. Imports from Asia cannot be blocked by the new prairie state.
I read it ... you are welcome to make BC rich anytime ... and sometimes things can get very slow if one is not paid exception well
Anyhow, that need not be
no one is responding to what I'm sayin .. that BC having no realistic alternative but to join. 2000 miles from the rest of its country is ludicrous and a non starter for BC
Get smart & play your best card
I'd get very active here if you guys smartened up and worked with us instead of doing things like telling us about dumb UN stuff
It's funny actually. Big tough prairie guys counting on a useless prog organization you hate & kissing UN ass .. when in reality, you don't have to. Good luck with getting efficient port cooperation
You are not listening, you are just talking. BC would have no realistic alternative but to join you
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The new prairie state would leverage the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea to gain coastal pipeline access.
Learn about the Atacama border dispute between Chile and Bolivia. Chile has denied landlocked Bolvia access to the Pacific Oean for 116 years so get in line. Bolvia has negotiated sea access with Uruguay but Chile will not grant them access to the Pacific.
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The new prairie state would leverage the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea to gain coastal pipeline access.
Learn about the Atacama border dispute between Chile and Bolivia. Chile has denied landlocked Bolvia access to the Pacific Oean for 116 years so get in line. Bolvia has negotiated sea access with Uruguay but Chile will not grant them access to the Pacific.
I new some fool would mention that. An apples to oranges comparison that we have discussed at length in the Wexit movement.
That is still active today and is the result of a land dispute stemming from the Treaty of Ancón with Peru and the Treaty of Peace and Friendship of 1904 between Chile and Bolivia after the War of the Pacific (1879–1883).
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I read it ... you are welcome to make BC rich anytime ... and sometimes things can get very slow if one is not paid exception well
Anyhow, that need not be
no one is responding to what I'm sayin .. that BC having no realistic alternative but to join. 2000 miles from the rest of its country is ludicrous and a non starter for BC
Get smart & play your best card
I'd get very active here if you guys smartened up and worked with us instead of doing things like telling us about dumb UN stuff
It's funny actually. Big tough prairie guys counting on a useless prog organization you hate & kissing UN ass .. when in reality, you don't have to. Good luck with getting efficient port cooperation
You are not listening, you are just talking. BC would have no realistic alternative but to join you
BC's issues of separation from Canada are similar to what the Maritimes would have had, had the 1995 election results been different. But, it is a separate issue from prairie separatism. I get what the Western Wexiteers are saying. A new state will give them a mechanism under international law to get their goods to international waters that they do not currently have within a united Canada.
While I prefer united, but flexible federalism, I can see the draw of separation from an economic point of view. It would certainly make it harder for Canada, or an independent BC to say no a sovereign state.
The prairies has nothing going without BC. BC has resources, hydro power etc. etc. and physical position you prairie guys can't even dream about
In fact if any province could make a successful go of it it without Canada, it would be BC ... . hmmmm :43(2):
With BC, it could make for one of the best countries on the face of the earth .. as against a landlocked dust bowl kissing "slow as molasses in January" + "hostile to things like you are proposing to boot" UN ass to even eat
Without it your dream is no more a workable entity than Scouce's imaginary all white country dreams
Those esstern progs have only themselves to blame
wexit is the result of those few eastern Liberal elites telling the rest of the country what to do. Its no better than slavery
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The prairies has nothing going without BC. BC has resources, hydro power and position you prairie guys can't even dream about
With BC, it could make for one of the best countries on the face of the earth .. as against a landlocked dust bowl kissing slow as molasses in January + hostile to things like you are proposing UN ass to even eat
Without it your dream is no more a workable entity than Scouce's imaginary dreams
We are talking two different things here. The reason for Wexit and I am a Wexiteer, is that we no longer have our economy knee-capped by Ottawa to win votes in Quebec and on the left Coast. As an independent state, Canada can no longer just deny us access to coasts.
Canada can whine all it wants, but Ottawa brought this on themselves.
Oh, and we have lots of coal and natural gas to power our economy. Hydro is not the only game in town. But, if Western Manitoba joins our new prosperity state, we have that too.
Agreed 100 ... you don't get it that the very same applies to BC
We lose big being in Canada for the very same reasons
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The prairies has nothing going without BC. BC has resources, hydro power and position you prairie guys can't even dream about
With BC, it could make for one of the best countries on the face of the earth .. as against a landlocked dust bowl kissing slow as molasses in January + hostile to things like you are proposing UN ass to even eat
Without it your dream is no more a workable entity than Scouce's imaginary dreams
We are talking two different things here. The reason for Wexit and I am a Wexiteer, is that we no longer have our economy knee-capped by Ottawa to win votes in Quebec and on the left Coast. As an independent state, Canada can no longer just deny us access to coasts.
Canada can whine all it wants, but Ottawa brought this on themselves.
Oh, and we have lots of coal and natural gas to power our economy. Hydro is not the only game in town. But, if Western Manitoba joins our new prosperity state, we have that too.
You are dead wrong on "the left coast. BC get's exactly what you guys get from Ottawa .. screwed royally.
I'm agreeing with you ffs .. but you seem to think BC is not in exactly the same boat
If you ever pull it off, or even make it start to look serious, BC will smell the coffee of isolation and jump on board
Besides, the UK , France or both would veto Alberta's application to the UN in the same manor that China denies Tiawan from membership.
That's a plus
No UN interference nor dumb Prog regs to follow
I'm liking this better the more I hear
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Besides, the UK , France or both would veto Alberta's application to the UN in the same manor that China denies Tiawan from membership.
Yes, they would do or suffer the wrath of a powerful nuclear armed dictatorship like what is left of Canada. ac_lmfao
I will not be living in Canada, but I hope South West Manitoba joins the new Western Canadian nation. If the North West Territories join too, even better.
No West Coast though. They are elitist prog scum. Let them join with Washington, Oregon, and California.
Fuck you
You are the one being the wannabe elitist scum
and just go ffs and get it over with, I'm sick of hearing about it
Me?
I have lived on the prairie and on the coast .. so know what I'm talking about first hand .. and love all of western canada
I'm going to stay here and try to make something out of all of the entire western canada I love, but I promise not to say it every day
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Fuck you
You are the one being the wannabe elitist scum
go
Wexit is about building a bottom up populist nation. The West Coast is a top down do as I say prog dictatorship. They cannot accept elitist prog authoritarianism and West Coast money will never tolerate a strong independent working class that thinks for themselves. A divorce is inevitable.
You have not lived in it and have zero idea of the people away from where you have lived
I have lived in both areas and know some of what I'm talking about
Fuck prairie snobs are piss offs as are all snobs .. fortunately most prairie folk are just down home good folk ..as are most bc folk
I have had relatives visit from Taiwan who are puzzled by what they see in Canada..
Why does a nation with so much oil, import oil......it's all politics.
Meh, just kick out Quebec, they want to leave anyway. Kick out Quebec, tell them to take Trudeau with them. You know you want to.
Kaybek is a huge negative, but Ontario has been going downhill rapidly of late .. a whole other kind of people today
I'm good with and comfortable in all the other areas
Nah, kick em out. What are you, chicken?
"Bawk bawk bwaaaaaaak"
OK. Kaybek & Ontario are out
If the prairie provinces leave, the further break up of Canada is inevitable. I propose some form of commonwealth of independent Canadian or North American states.
Some US states will be in the same boat when the radical democRATs control all of the federal government. There should bea Pexit for states that produce oil. We can talk about Alberta and Saskatchewan merging with them.
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If the prairie provinces leave, the further break up of Canada is inevitable. I propose some form of commonwealth of independent Canadian or North American states.
We wouldn't need that if Ottawa would stop eroding provincial jurisdiction.
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If the prairie provinces leave, the further break up of Canada is inevitable. I propose some form of commonwealth of independent Canadian or North American states.
We wouldn't need that if Ottawa would stop eroding provincial jurisdiction.
It's okay, I got cc to kick Ontario out along with Quebec. Canada is saved!
I cannot believe what I am seeing. I never thought any country would be at war with itself over the export of resources. Ships carrying dangerous goods come and go everyday in Vancouver. Some Canadians would prefer to break the country up than allow one part of Canada to export oil?? That is insane, especially when you think ships carrying foreign oil enter Canada everyday and vessels carrying foreign coal leave Canada everyday.
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I cannot believe what I am seeing. I never thought any country would be at war with itself over the export of resources. Ships carrying dangerous goods come and go everyday in Vancouver. Some Canadians would prefer to break the country up than allow one part of Canada to export oil?? That is insane, especially when you think ships carrying foreign oil enter Canada everyday and vessels carrying foreign coal leave Canada everyday.
That's what happens when you give Injuns and the left a stronger voice than they deserve... Nothing ever good comes from catering to special interest groups.
Herm, you do realize that even if your province and my province broke off, libtards still control the snivil serpent unions, academia and social media. In other words, your new state will compete with an indy cut-off BC to see who can out woke each other.
We are not woke out here
In fact, I'm not awake now
You are right about academia, the unions, media & most snivel servants in all areas tho
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We are not woke out here
In fact, I'm not awake now
You are right about academia, the unions, media & most snivel servants in all areas tho
Whatever My point is that any new state will have the same ideology acting as the tail that wags the dog.
I got that and was agreeing to a large extent
I think cc and Shen have a valid point..
A new prairie state will have the same problem of to much power concentrated in too few hands.
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Herm, you do realize that even if your province and my province broke off, libtards still control the snivil serpent unions, academia and social media. In other words, your new state will compete with an indy cut-off BC to see who can out woke each other.
That would really piss me off.
Has Wexit died down during the pandemic? It never had any supporters in Manitoba except for the South West corner of the province.
It''ll never fucking happen... If the frogs couldn't break away from Canada, no Provinces will. Imagining anything else is just silly...
Jeesis Chrise Mel, I almos lose dat ting! :sad:

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Former Wexit Leader Now Wants Alberta to Join the US
As the Western Canadian separatist movement Wexit has appointed a former Conservative as leader, its founder is pushing for Alberta to become the 51st state of the U.S.
By Mack Lamoureux
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As the Western Canadian separatist movement Wexit becomes more mainstream, the group's founder is hoping to lead disillusioned western Canadians into the waiting arms of Donald Trump and to become the U.S.'s 51st state.
"Just like Wexit wasn't mainstream and now...is mainstream, the American option isn't mainstream but it will be," said Peter Downing, the driving force behind Wexit.
Wexit is a growing movement of conservative western Canadians who want to separate from eastern Canada. The group, built off existing separatist sentiment and western rage, was founded by Downing in early 2019 and has grown to become an actual political entity: it's now a registered party in Alberta, British Columbia, and Saskatchewan (although in some province's Wexit has changed names and merged with other separatists.
Downing recently resigned as the leader of the official Wexit party in June, making way for Jay Hill, a longtime mainstream Conservative Party politician from 1993 to 2010. The appointment of Hill, who had stints as both the chief Conservative Party whip and the house leader, granted Wexit a new air of legitimacy. It's also allowed Downing to focus on the next stage of his plan.
"Stage 2 is the next logical approach, to touch on what the Liberals and what the eastern Canadian elite fear the most: Alberta secession to the United States," Downing told VICE News. "All the arguments against (Albertan separation)—us being landlocked, losing investment—all those things simply just go away."
"We're looking forward to our Wexodous," he said. He's also launched a website for the "Alberta 51" movement.
Who would want to be part of the United Progtard States of America after billionaires and corporations buy democrat wins across the board in November
I hope Scott Moe holds an equalization referendum here.
Taxpayers group urges Albertans to vote to abolish equalization in October referendum
https://tnc.news/2021/09/27/taxpayers-group-urges-albertans-to-vote-to-abolish-equalization-in-october-referendum/?fbclid=IwAR1-iIECmxyASUG-ZBj_Yw4OGQ2UOCIiPVoof9OiRGMbA2CCaPfSzf0oWQ4
A new Canadian Taxpayers Federation campaign is urging Albertans to vote yes to abolish equalization payments to have-not provinces, weeks before Alberta's Oct. 18 referendum.
"Albertans have had it rough for the last six-plus years, and we're tired of being treated as the cash cow for the rest of Canada," said Kevin Lacey, the CTF's Alberta director and head of the Fight Equalization campaign. "Voting yes in this October's referendum is a great way to send the Trudeau government a message that the equalization status quo must go."
Since 1961, Albertans have paid $661 billion more to Ottawa than they have received back in spending. Encompassed in that amount is equalization, which costs Alberta taxpayers approximately $3 billion per year, or over $600 per Albertan.
Despite this significant contribution to Canada, the government has made it extremely difficult for Alberta's economy to develop by instituting policies such as the carbon tax, the tanker ban, and the anti-pipeline legislation.
Unlike equalization, though, provinces can opt out of participation in the CPP; Quebec already has.
In 2017, 16.5 per cent of all CPP contributions came from Alberta workers, while just 10.6 per cent of CPP expenditures made their way back to the province. The difference between what was paid in and paid out was $2.9 billion in 2017, the most recent year for which data are available. (Alberta paid in $8.1 billion and received $5.2 Billion)
Alberta contributes much more to Canada Pension Plan than its retirees take out: study
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/alberta-contributes-much-more-to-canada-pension-plan-than-its-retirees-take-out-study?fbclid=IwAR1TXYJ_nKM9aH-3dbLOhB48hybGfmHkAz-eqdtLj1s97U46qm1wmT3iSow
Wait. Some Canadians would prefer to live under American rule, rather than Canadian?
Jesus wept, just come here. Anything is better than that fate.
Shhhh .. he really likes Biden
:wink:
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Shhhh .. he really likes Biden
:wink:
I thought we were friends.

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Former Alberta premier Ralph Klein used to say Ottawa is where Albertans tax dollars go to die.
Old Ralph was a people's champion. Today's prog elites would have called him Hitler.
Quote from: Herman post_id=450457 time=1652848738 user_id=1689
Old Ralph was a people's champion. Today's prog elites would have called him Hitler.
Yes . .and yes
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Quote from: Herman post_id=450457 time=1652848738 user_id=1689
Old Ralph was a people's champion. Today's prog elites would have called him Hitler.
Yes . .and yes
Oh my goodness, life was so good under Ralph Klein and no Justin Trudeau to tell us you can't..
I miss Ralphbucks.
:laugh:
Ralph Klein was the most successful elected politician I've ever seen anywhere.
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Ralph Klein was the most successful elected politician I've ever seen anywhere.
He never lost an election from the time he announced his candidacy for mayor of Calgary to the time opportunists in the old PC party of Alberta forced him out by stealth.