Title: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on August 26, 2020, 10:02:46 PM
Post by: Frood on August 26, 2020, 10:02:46 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on August 27, 2020, 12:50:50 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 27, 2020, 12:50:50 AM
Reports of missile movements and orders to write letters to families:https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/breaking-china-orders-soldiers-opposite-taiwan-to-write-good-bye-letters-to-families
China has been closer to attacking Taiwan in the past.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on August 27, 2020, 01:59:09 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 27, 2020, 01:59:09 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on August 27, 2020, 03:37:48 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 27, 2020, 03:37:48 PM
From what I have read, there would be no advantage for China to invade Taiwan. For now anyway.
China has been more irrationally angry with Taiwan in the past.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on August 27, 2020, 08:44:23 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 27, 2020, 08:44:23 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on August 28, 2020, 03:06:02 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 28, 2020, 03:06:02 PM
China could take Taiwan pretty fast. Even before US troops from Japan and Korea could get there.
Apparently, China can shut down Taiwan's missile defenses electronically. I read that anyway.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2021, 12:30:09 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2021, 12:30:09 AM
Several countries around the world are developing a "sixth-generation fighter" aircraft that is more advanced than the fifth-generation fighter aircraft currently in service, including the United States, United Kingdom, Germany, Spain, France, Italy, Sweden, India, Japan, Taiwan, and Russia.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on February 10, 2021, 03:13:14 AM
Post by: Zetsu on February 10, 2021, 03:13:14 AM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2021, 11:33:59 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2021, 11:33:59 AM
Think they already missed the chance, not when the vaccine is out and one of the US carrier that was plague with COVID should be now back online.
China coud pass the US in new generation fighter jets.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on February 10, 2021, 07:52:15 PM
Post by: Zetsu on February 10, 2021, 07:52:15 PM
Think they already missed the chance, not when the vaccine is out and one of the US carrier that was plague with COVID should be now back online.
China coud pass the US in new generation fighter jets.
I find it kind of hard to believe, a few years ago the news media mention China's J20 or was it the J31's engine emits black smoke during an air show due to engine burning efficiency factors, China still struggle to build a Nimitz class carrier and worst of all, they have practically zero modern war experience. But then at the same time China isn't stupid, they aren't going to fight the US head to head after seeing the USSR failed and collapsed and will mainly resort to any cunning tricks they can come up with.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2021, 07:58:51 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2021, 07:58:51 PM
Think they already missed the chance, not when the vaccine is out and one of the US carrier that was plague with COVID should be now back online.
China coud pass the US in new generation fighter jets.
I find it kind of hard to believe, a few years ago the news media mention China's J20 or was it the J31's engine emits black smoke during an air show due to engine burning efficiency factors, China still struggle to build a Nimitz class carrier and worst of all, they have practically zero modern war experience.
You know a lot about military hardware, and I don't, so I'm out of this discussion.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on February 10, 2021, 08:02:48 PM
Post by: Frood on February 10, 2021, 08:02:48 PM
Think they already missed the chance, not when the vaccine is out and one of the US carrier that was plague with COVID should be now back online.
China coud pass the US in new generation fighter jets.
I find it kind of hard to believe, a few years ago the news media mention China's J20 or was it the J31's engine emits black smoke during an air show due to engine burning efficiency factors, China still struggle to build a Nimitz class carrier and worst of all, they have practically zero modern war experience. But then at the same time China isn't stupid, they aren't going to fight the US head to head after seeing the USSR failed and collapsed and will mainly resort to any cunning tricks they can come up with.
Things like sabotage, EMP, viruses, economics...
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2021, 08:05:27 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2021, 08:05:27 PM
Think they already missed the chance, not when the vaccine is out and one of the US carrier that was plague with COVID should be now back online.
China coud pass the US in new generation fighter jets.
I find it kind of hard to believe, a few years ago the news media mention China's J20 or was it the J31's engine emits black smoke during an air show due to engine burning efficiency factors, China still struggle to build a Nimitz class carrier and worst of all, they have practically zero modern war experience. But then at the same time China isn't stupid, they aren't going to fight the US head to head after seeing the USSR failed and collapsed and will mainly resort to any cunning tricks they can come up with.
Things like sabotage,EMP,viruses, economics...
I've heard of that..
Pan green Taiwanese presidents and elected members of Taiwan's legislative Yuan are very concerned about China's elctronic warfare capabilities.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on February 10, 2021, 08:07:10 PM
Post by: Zetsu on February 10, 2021, 08:07:10 PM
Think they already missed the chance, not when the vaccine is out and one of the US carrier that was plague with COVID should be now back online.
China coud pass the US in new generation fighter jets.
I find it kind of hard to believe, a few years ago the news media mention China's J20 or was it the J31's engine emits black smoke during an air show due to engine burning efficiency factors, China still struggle to build a Nimitz class carrier and worst of all, they have practically zero modern war experience.
You know a lot about military hardware, and I don't, so I'm out of this discussion.
ac_smile
Tbh I don't really know much lol, but I just know China tends to bluff and Pentagon says China is too powerful in order to get more funding. Plus the US probably still have lot of top secret stuff hidden from the public.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on February 10, 2021, 08:07:47 PM
Post by: Zetsu on February 10, 2021, 08:07:47 PM
Think they already missed the chance, not when the vaccine is out and one of the US carrier that was plague with COVID should be now back online.
China coud pass the US in new generation fighter jets.
I find it kind of hard to believe, a few years ago the news media mention China's J20 or was it the J31's engine emits black smoke during an air show due to engine burning efficiency factors, China still struggle to build a Nimitz class carrier and worst of all, they have practically zero modern war experience. But then at the same time China isn't stupid, they aren't going to fight the US head to head after seeing the USSR failed and collapsed and will mainly resort to any cunning tricks they can come up with.
Things like sabotage, EMP, viruses, economics...
Exactly, China knows all Western democratic nation's biggest weakness and will use those methods along with infiltration to divide and take over.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2021, 08:14:29 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2021, 08:14:29 PM
Think they already missed the chance, not when the vaccine is out and one of the US carrier that was plague with COVID should be now back online.
China coud pass the US in new generation fighter jets.
I find it kind of hard to believe, a few years ago the news media mention China's J20 or was it the J31's engine emits black smoke during an air show due to engine burning efficiency factors, China still struggle to build a Nimitz class carrier and worst of all, they have practically zero modern war experience. But then at the same time China isn't stupid, they aren't going to fight the US head to head after seeing the USSR failed and collapsed and will mainly resort to any cunning tricks they can come up with.
Things like sabotage, EMP, viruses, economics...
Exactly,China knows all Western democratic nation's biggest weaknessand will use those methods along with infiltration to divide and take over.
Shen Li and cc have said the same thing.....and all of you are correct.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on February 10, 2021, 08:16:34 PM
Post by: Zetsu on February 10, 2021, 08:16:34 PM
Think they already missed the chance, not when the vaccine is out and one of the US carrier that was plague with COVID should be now back online.
China coud pass the US in new generation fighter jets.
I find it kind of hard to believe, a few years ago the news media mention China's J20 or was it the J31's engine emits black smoke during an air show due to engine burning efficiency factors, China still struggle to build a Nimitz class carrier and worst of all, they have practically zero modern war experience. But then at the same time China isn't stupid, they aren't going to fight the US head to head after seeing the USSR failed and collapsed and will mainly resort to any cunning tricks they can come up with.
Things like sabotage,EMP,viruses, economics...
I've heard of that..
Pan green Taiwanese presidents and elected members of Taiwan's legislative Yuan are very concerned about China's elctronic warfare capabilities.
I remember some expert once mentioned if a EMP stealth missile detonates in the middle of the nation on the stratosphere can cause a permanent black out for countries the size of China or the US, lol.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2021, 08:54:05 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2021, 08:54:05 PM
China coud pass the US in new generation fighter jets.
I find it kind of hard to believe, a few years ago the news media mention China's J20 or was it the J31's engine emits black smoke during an air show due to engine burning efficiency factors, China still struggle to build a Nimitz class carrier and worst of all, they have practically zero modern war experience. But then at the same time China isn't stupid, they aren't going to fight the US head to head after seeing the USSR failed and collapsed and will mainly resort to any cunning tricks they can come up with.
Things like sabotage,EMP,viruses, economics...
I've heard of that..
Pan green Taiwanese presidents and elected members of Taiwan's legislative Yuan are very concerned about China's elctronic warfare capabilities.
I remember some expert once mentioned if a EMP stealth missile detonates in the middle of the nation on the stratosphere can cause a permanent black out for countries the size of China or the US, lol.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on February 10, 2021, 08:58:03 PM
Post by: Frood on February 10, 2021, 08:58:03 PM
China coud pass the US in new generation fighter jets.
I find it kind of hard to believe, a few years ago the news media mention China's J20 or was it the J31's engine emits black smoke during an air show due to engine burning efficiency factors, China still struggle to build a Nimitz class carrier and worst of all, they have practically zero modern war experience. But then at the same time China isn't stupid, they aren't going to fight the US head to head after seeing the USSR failed and collapsed and will mainly resort to any cunning tricks they can come up with.
Things like sabotage,EMP,viruses, economics...
I've heard of that..
Pan green Taiwanese presidents and elected members of Taiwan's legislative Yuan are very concerned about China's elctronic warfare capabilities.
I remember some expert once mentioned if a EMP stealth missile detonates in the middle of the nation on the stratosphere can cause a permanent black out for countries the size of China or the US, lol.
Yes, and aside from some hardened gov infrastructure, everything else would grind to a halt. No transport, no food, no water treatment, no strong communications, no health care, no pharmaceuticals, no fire fighting, no order.
Nations would eat themselves within weeks...
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2021, 09:07:59 PM
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2021, 09:07:59 PM
Chinas new carrier might be or might not be nuclear powered.
Still... USA has 10 nimitz class carriers plus smaller ones.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on February 10, 2021, 09:08:51 PM
Post by: Zetsu on February 10, 2021, 09:08:51 PM
I find it kind of hard to believe, a few years ago the news media mention China's J20 or was it the J31's engine emits black smoke during an air show due to engine burning efficiency factors, China still struggle to build a Nimitz class carrier and worst of all, they have practically zero modern war experience. But then at the same time China isn't stupid, they aren't going to fight the US head to head after seeing the USSR failed and collapsed and will mainly resort to any cunning tricks they can come up with.
Things like sabotage,EMP,viruses, economics...
I've heard of that..
Pan green Taiwanese presidents and elected members of Taiwan's legislative Yuan are very concerned about China's elctronic warfare capabilities.
I remember some expert once mentioned if a EMP stealth missile detonates in the middle of the nation on the stratosphere can cause a permanent black out for countries the size of China or the US, lol.
Yes, and aside from some hardened gov infrastructure, everything else would grind to a halt. No transport, no food, no water treatment, no strong communications, no health care, no pharmaceuticals, no fire fighting, no order.
Nations would eat themselves within weeks...
That's pretty freaking damn scary just thinking of it, I don't really feel like going back to the old industrial revolution days, assuming if I can survive, which I surely doubt. I just hope the US have or build that Star Wars anti missile defense system they've been talking about for decades.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2021, 09:21:41 PM
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2021, 09:21:41 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on March 07, 2021, 11:09:19 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 07, 2021, 11:09:19 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on March 07, 2021, 11:40:46 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 07, 2021, 11:40:46 PM
The Chinese regime's top diplomat on March 7 warned the Biden administration to undo former President Donald Trump's "dangerous practice" of supporting Taiwan, the democratic island that Beijing claims as its territory.
China is always trying to dictate who Western countries, in fact all countries, can and cannot talk to.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on April 05, 2021, 11:58:07 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 05, 2021, 11:58:07 AM
TAIPEI, Taiwan—The Chinese communist regime is accelerating its plans to invade Taiwan, an expert warns, as Beijing ratchets up military maneuvers against the island.
Twenty Chinese military aircraft—including four nuclear-capable H-6K bombers, 10 J-16 fighter jets, two Y-8 anti-submarine warfare aircraft, and a KJ-500 airborne early warning and control aircraft—entered Taiwan's air defense identification zone (ADIZ) on March 26, according to Taiwan's Ministry of National Defense. It was the largest incursion ever reported by the ministry.
Taiwan's ADIZ, located adjacent to the island's territorial airspace, is an area where incoming planes must identify themselves to the island's air traffic controller.
The incursion caps off a significant increase in hostility by Beijing against Taiwan since 2020. Taiwan's President Tsai Ing-wen, re-elected last January, has taken a hard line against threats posed by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), while the island has deepened its cooperation with the United States—prompting the regime to escalate its warmongering towards the island.
The island's coast guard on April 1 announced that Beijing has been flying unmanned drones near Taiwan's Dongsha Island, located in the northern part of the South China Sea. The authority said it could not rule out that Beijing was using the drones to carry out reconnaissance.
Alongside military actions, the regime has sharpened its rhetoric towards the island. Earlier this year, a Chinese defense spokesperson threatened war against Taiwan if it declared independence.
On March 31, Hu Xijin, editor-in-chief of hawkish state-run media Global Times, wrote on his social media, that he would like to order able-bodied men to go blow up bunkers in Taiwan in the event of war.
Preparing to Invade
Beijing's incursions are part of a series of dry runs in preparation for an invasion of Taiwan, John Mills, the former director of cybersecurity policy, strategy, and international affairs at the Office of the Secretary of Defense, told The Epoch Times.
Mills projects that these exercises could culminate in a large-scale dry run in the next two years. These dry runs are necessary, Mills said, given the complexity of amphibious landing operations—as well as how the Chinese military has never conducted a forced landing on a hostile power in a real-life situation before.
Any amphibious assault on Taiwan may also involve swarms of Chinese civilian merchant vessels and fishing boats, Mills said.
He believes that an invasion could come in the next three years—much earlier than the six-year estimate given by U.S. Adm. Philip Davidson, head of the U.S. Indo-Pacific Command, during a congressional hearing in early March.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on April 08, 2021, 10:48:38 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 08, 2021, 10:48:38 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on April 08, 2021, 11:01:17 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 08, 2021, 11:01:17 PM
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfTEreRT2ss [/media]
From what I've read, I think a Chinese invasion and takeover of Taiwan would use e-warfare.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on April 11, 2021, 08:39:34 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 11, 2021, 08:39:34 AM
The Chinese regime's recent activities in the vicinity of the Taiwan Strait have greatly increased and its internal activities signal that they are prepared for an attack on Taiwan.
On March 23, U.S. Adm. John Aquilino said during a hearing over his nomination to become commander of the U.S. Indo-Pacific Command (INDOPACOM) that the CCP could attack Taiwan much earlier than what most people expect.
The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has been making final preparations against Taiwan over the past two years. Still, the timing and the intensity of the attack probably depend whether they believe the United States will fully support Taiwan.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 11, 2021, 08:44:04 AM
Post by: Frood on April 11, 2021, 08:44:04 AM
EMP has been around for a long time.
Chinas new carrier might be or might not be nuclear powered.
Still... USA has 10 nimitz class carriers plus smaller ones.
The seas don't matter anymore... it's the skies and space above.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 11, 2021, 08:48:47 AM
Post by: Frood on April 11, 2021, 08:48:47 AM
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfTEreRT2ss [/media]
From what I've read, I think a Chinese invasion and takeover of Taiwan would use e-warfare.
It will be atmospheric pulses in the sky, relatively clean, but all nations trying to send each other back to the stone age.
No nation can afford to do different. They'll try to to wipe out each other's grids, electricity, and personal electronics... then billions will die.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 09:01:47 AM
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 09:01:47 AM
EMP has been around for a long time.
Chinas new carrier might be or might not be nuclear powered.
Still... USA has 10 nimitz class carriers plus smaller ones.
The seas don't matter anymore... it's the skies and space above.
I believe that's what the THAAD deployed in South Korea is for, now China has lost all their military privacy.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 11, 2021, 09:22:35 AM
Post by: Frood on April 11, 2021, 09:22:35 AM
EMP has been around for a long time.
Chinas new carrier might be or might not be nuclear powered.
Still... USA has 10 nimitz class carriers plus smaller ones.
The seas don't matter anymore... it's the skies and space above.
I believe that's what the THAAD deployed in South Korea is for, now China has lost all their military privacy.
Nothing but hardened electronics will survive after WW3 kicks off, and then populations will die by the hundreds of millions... perhaps billions.
It doesn't take many atmospheric bursts to shut down clean water, farming, logistics, and refrigeration anywhere in the world. Warheads have multiple re-entry components.
It's no longer a case of MAD (mutually assured destruction)... it's about to knocking out the adversarial MAD...
We're on the cusp of the dark ages v2.0.... whether in our lifetimes or our children's...
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 11:18:20 AM
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 11:18:20 AM
EMP has been around for a long time.
Chinas new carrier might be or might not be nuclear powered.
Still... USA has 10 nimitz class carriers plus smaller ones.
The seas don't matter anymore... it's the skies and space above.
I believe that's what the THAAD deployed in South Korea is for, now China has lost all their military privacy.
Nothing but hardened electronics will survive after WW3 kicks off, and then populations will die by the hundreds of millions... perhaps billions.
It doesn't take many atmospheric bursts to shut down clean water, farming, logistics, and refrigeration anywhere in the world. Warheads have multiple re-entry components.
It's no longer a case of MAD (mutually assured destruction)... it's about to knocking out the adversarial MAD...
We're on the cusp of the dark ages v2.0.... whether in our lifetimes or our children's...
That is if China's EMP missiles can get past South Korea and Japan with the THAAD up and running as a early warning system. The biggest concern will be China's SSBNs attempting to launch the EMP near the coast of the US, but then the US have like a dozen aircraft carrier battle groups on stand by, not to mention their new batch of SSNs designed effectively to hunt and destroy any enemy submarine and vessels, their Seawolf class with 13 sonars, unlike the previous subs with only 1.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on April 11, 2021, 11:25:06 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 11, 2021, 11:25:06 AM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 11:41:30 AM
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 11:41:30 AM
I don't know much about either side's capabilities.
US has already form a nice blockade and a bunch of bases surrounding China in the Asia Pacific and I believe they also have submergible drones that can help track down any of China's subs.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on April 11, 2021, 12:22:12 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 11, 2021, 12:22:12 PM
I don't know much about either side's capabilities.
US has already form a nice blockade and a bunch of bases surrounding China in the Asia Pacific and I believe they also have submergible drones that can help track down any of China's subs.
I am sure China knows this and had a strategy.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 11, 2021, 12:59:34 PM
Post by: Frood on April 11, 2021, 12:59:34 PM
EMP has been around for a long time.
Chinas new carrier might be or might not be nuclear powered.
Still... USA has 10 nimitz class carriers plus smaller ones.
The seas don't matter anymore... it's the skies and space above.
I believe that's what the THAAD deployed in South Korea is for, now China has lost all their military privacy.
Nothing but hardened electronics will survive after WW3 kicks off, and then populations will die by the hundreds of millions... perhaps billions.
It doesn't take many atmospheric bursts to shut down clean water, farming, logistics, and refrigeration anywhere in the world. Warheads have multiple re-entry components.
It's no longer a case of MAD (mutually assured destruction)... it's about to knocking out the adversarial MAD...
We're on the cusp of the dark ages v2.0.... whether in our lifetimes or our children's...
That is if China's EMP missiles can get past South Korea and Japan with the THAAD up and running as a early warning system. The biggest concern will be China's SSBNs attempting to launch the EMP near the coast of the US, but then the US have like a dozen aircraft carrier battle groups on stand by, not to mention their new batch of SSNs designed effectively to hunt and destroy any enemy submarine and vessels, their Seawolf class with 13 sonars, unlike the previous subs with only 1.
Mate, you've been fed a load of bs...
All multi re-entry nuke missiles are EMP's... it's just where the bursts happen atmospherically that count.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 01:07:50 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 01:07:50 PM
The seas don't matter anymore... it's the skies and space above.
I believe that's what the THAAD deployed in South Korea is for, now China has lost all their military privacy.
Nothing but hardened electronics will survive after WW3 kicks off, and then populations will die by the hundreds of millions... perhaps billions.
It doesn't take many atmospheric bursts to shut down clean water, farming, logistics, and refrigeration anywhere in the world. Warheads have multiple re-entry components.
It's no longer a case of MAD (mutually assured destruction)... it's about to knocking out the adversarial MAD...
We're on the cusp of the dark ages v2.0.... whether in our lifetimes or our children's...
That is if China's EMP missiles can get past South Korea and Japan with the THAAD up and running as a early warning system. The biggest concern will be China's SSBNs attempting to launch the EMP near the coast of the US, but then the US have like a dozen aircraft carrier battle groups on stand by, not to mention their new batch of SSNs designed effectively to hunt and destroy any enemy submarine and vessels, their Seawolf class with 13 sonars, unlike the previous subs with only 1.
Mate, you've been fed a load of bs...
All multi re-entry nuke missiles are EMP's... it's just where the bursts happen atmospherically that count.
Lol that's what I've just said, the problem is can China's ICBM get past the Pacific coast and their neighbouring countries, Japan, SK and Taiwan along with South East Asia and reach into North America.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 11, 2021, 01:12:03 PM
Post by: Frood on April 11, 2021, 01:12:03 PM
I believe that's what the THAAD deployed in South Korea is for, now China has lost all their military privacy.
Nothing but hardened electronics will survive after WW3 kicks off, and then populations will die by the hundreds of millions... perhaps billions.
It doesn't take many atmospheric bursts to shut down clean water, farming, logistics, and refrigeration anywhere in the world. Warheads have multiple re-entry components.
It's no longer a case of MAD (mutually assured destruction)... it's about to knocking out the adversarial MAD...
We're on the cusp of the dark ages v2.0.... whether in our lifetimes or our children's...
That is if China's EMP missiles can get past South Korea and Japan with the THAAD up and running as a early warning system. The biggest concern will be China's SSBNs attempting to launch the EMP near the coast of the US, but then the US have like a dozen aircraft carrier battle groups on stand by, not to mention their new batch of SSNs designed effectively to hunt and destroy any enemy submarine and vessels, their Seawolf class with 13 sonars, unlike the previous subs with only 1.
Mate, you've been fed a load of bs...
All multi re-entry nuke missiles are EMP's... it's just where the bursts happen atmospherically that count.
Lol that's what I've just said, the problem is can China's ICBM get past the Pacific coast and their neighbouring countries, Japan, SK and Taiwan along with South East Asia and reach into North America.
ICBM mobile platforms can launch from anywhere, as well as the numerous dark subs prowling the Pacific and Atlantic from China and Russia...
If the desire is there, it's a done deal...
In the meantime, the Biden Admin is herding its adversaries to desire it....
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 01:22:42 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 01:22:42 PM
Nothing but hardened electronics will survive after WW3 kicks off, and then populations will die by the hundreds of millions... perhaps billions.
It doesn't take many atmospheric bursts to shut down clean water, farming, logistics, and refrigeration anywhere in the world. Warheads have multiple re-entry components.
It's no longer a case of MAD (mutually assured destruction)... it's about to knocking out the adversarial MAD...
We're on the cusp of the dark ages v2.0.... whether in our lifetimes or our children's...
That is if China's EMP missiles can get past South Korea and Japan with the THAAD up and running as a early warning system. The biggest concern will be China's SSBNs attempting to launch the EMP near the coast of the US, but then the US have like a dozen aircraft carrier battle groups on stand by, not to mention their new batch of SSNs designed effectively to hunt and destroy any enemy submarine and vessels, their Seawolf class with 13 sonars, unlike the previous subs with only 1.
Mate, you've been fed a load of bs...
All multi re-entry nuke missiles are EMP's... it's just where the bursts happen atmospherically that count.
Lol that's what I've just said, the problem is can China's ICBM get past the Pacific coast and their neighbouring countries, Japan, SK and Taiwan along with South East Asia and reach into North America.
ICBM mobile platforms can launch from anywhere, as well as the numerous dark subs prowling the Pacific and Atlantic from China and Russia...
If the desire is there, it's a done deal...
In the meantime, the Biden Admin is herding its adversaries to desire it....
Yes, but how do you expect the platforms to get anywhere close to the US? Unless they are smuggled into Latin America which I highly doubt. China's nuclear subs are notoriously known for being loud, which I also highly doubt they'll remain unnoticed by the current Seawolf class subs, which was tailored made to hunt and destroy Russian subs, let alone the inferior Chinese submarines.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 11, 2021, 01:43:52 PM
Post by: Frood on April 11, 2021, 01:43:52 PM
That is if China's EMP missiles can get past South Korea and Japan with the THAAD up and running as a early warning system. The biggest concern will be China's SSBNs attempting to launch the EMP near the coast of the US, but then the US have like a dozen aircraft carrier battle groups on stand by, not to mention their new batch of SSNs designed effectively to hunt and destroy any enemy submarine and vessels, their Seawolf class with 13 sonars, unlike the previous subs with only 1.
Mate, you've been fed a load of bs...
All multi re-entry nuke missiles are EMP's... it's just where the bursts happen atmospherically that count.
Lol that's what I've just said, the problem is can China's ICBM get past the Pacific coast and their neighbouring countries, Japan, SK and Taiwan along with South East Asia and reach into North America.
ICBM mobile platforms can launch from anywhere, as well as the numerous dark subs prowling the Pacific and Atlantic from China and Russia...
If the desire is there, it's a done deal...
In the meantime, the Biden Admin is herding its adversaries to desire it....
Yes, but how do you expect the platforms to get anywhere close to the US? Unless they are smuggled into Latin America which I highly doubt. China's nuclear subs are notoriously known for being loud, which I highly doubt they'll remain unnoticed by the current Seawolf class subs, which was tailored made to hunt and destroy Russian subs, let alone the inferior Chinese submarines.
A few weeks ago Russia published drone footage of multiple subs emerging simultaneously from the Arctic ice with at least one of them with an IBCM hatch open already.
It's was a warning and easy as that... they've cut the travel time in half to the East Coast of the US. Each ICBM has between 6-10 re-entry modules...
In the meantime, Turkey is tonguing NATO's arse out by only enforcing the Montreaux Convention on Russia, instead of all nations, despite NATO shipping armaments to the Baltic for over a month as well as 10's of thousands of troops....under the guise of joint exercises and training. Turkey is the ultimate switch hitter too....buying off both adversaries. How much do you want to bet that their S-300's and S-400's have a vulnerability
Push comes to shove and Russia and China will become allies. Turkey is the new Italy...
It's likely to kick off in the matter of weeks.
Ask yourself where that Russian sub that passed the Straits of Gibraltar after going dark off the coast of Palestine is these days... nobody knows or is saying they know.... but it's somewhere in the Atlantic... and Russian mobile IBM'S are already scrambled in their nation...
China doesn't need to fire first. If Biden's handler's allow NATO to keep fucking with Russia's borders and with their alliance to Syria, China will pull a Japan...
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 01:59:08 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 01:59:08 PM
Mate, you've been fed a load of bs...
All multi re-entry nuke missiles are EMP's... it's just where the bursts happen atmospherically that count.
Lol that's what I've just said, the problem is can China's ICBM get past the Pacific coast and their neighbouring countries, Japan, SK and Taiwan along with South East Asia and reach into North America.
ICBM mobile platforms can launch from anywhere, as well as the numerous dark subs prowling the Pacific and Atlantic from China and Russia...
If the desire is there, it's a done deal...
In the meantime, the Biden Admin is herding its adversaries to desire it....
Yes, but how do you expect the platforms to get anywhere close to the US? Unless they are smuggled into Latin America which I highly doubt. China's nuclear subs are notoriously known for being loud, which I highly doubt they'll remain unnoticed by the current Seawolf class subs, which was tailored made to hunt and destroy Russian subs, let alone the inferior Chinese submarines.
A few weeks ago Russia published drone footage of multiple subs emerging simultaneously from the Arctic ice with at least one of them with an IBCM hatch open already.
It's was a warning and easy as that... they've cut the travel time in half to the East Coast of the US. Each ICBM has between 6-10 re-entry modules...
In the meantime, Turkey is tonguing NATO's arse out by only enforcing the Montreaux Convention on Russia, instead of all nations, despite NATO shipping armaments to the Baltic for over a month as well as 10's of thousands of troops....under the guise of joint exercises and training. Turkey is the ultimate switch hitter too....buying off both adversaries. How much do you want to bet that their S-300's and S-400's have a vulnerability
Push comes to shove and Russia and China will become allies. Turkey is the new Italy...
It's likely to kick off in the matter of weeks.
Ask yourself where that Russian sub that passed the Straits of Gibraltar after going dark off the coast of Palestine is these days... nobody knows or is saying they know.... but it's somewhere in the Atlantic... and Russian mobile IBM'S are already scrambled in their nation...
China doesn't need to fire first. If Biden's handler's allow NATO to keep fucking with Russia's borders and with their alliance to Syria, China will pull a Japan...
You do have some solid points, and information I never knew. But still Turkey is still far away from the US mainland with lots of buffer zone that nothing a THAAD can't prevent. And the Arctic has always been known to have SSBNs and SSNs lurking since the cold war, which was the sole purpose of US and Soviet subs, but IIRC 20 years ago China's sub were never arctic designed or capable, not sure about it now though, but then Northern Canada will be the buffer for the US. Bottom line is if you're worried about EMP, lets not forget nukes have always existed.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 11, 2021, 02:09:11 PM
Post by: Frood on April 11, 2021, 02:09:11 PM
Even North Korea has a pair of satellites orbiting in a perpendicular motion to any other nation and traversing the horizon of North America each day...
It's not a question of if.... just how much. Will the various nations open fire and destroy human life everywhere for generations to come or will they choose to lob atmospheric bursts and let each other starve and become dehydrated from lack of potable water, and civil strife.
I'm not worried about EMP... it's the best of shit options on offer.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 02:21:32 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 02:21:32 PM
Turkey will go with whomever is winning despite housing American missiles in its interior. China doesn't have to kick off.....it can be a silent partner to Russia and join later.
Even North Korea has a pair of satellites orbiting in a perpendicular motion to any other nation and traversing the horizon of North America each day...
It's not a question of if.... just how much. Will the various nations open fire and destroy human life everywhere for generations to come or will they choose to lob atmospheric bursts and let each other starve and become dehydrated from lack of potable water, and civil strife.
I'm not worried about EMP... it's the best of shit options on offer.
If you're not worried about nukes or EMP, then I duno what you're being so concerned about. There's no way the US will let Russia or China launch their missiles anywhere close to US coasts.
Lets not forget the US have Russia and China by the balls with the sheer number of bases established in the Asia Pacific, chance are Russia and China will be the first to lose if hell breaks lose, the US might get a dent and that's it. Assuming there's no other top secret stuff hidden from public.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 11, 2021, 02:28:30 PM
Post by: Frood on April 11, 2021, 02:28:30 PM
Turkey will go with whomever is winning despite housing American missiles in its interior. China doesn't have to kick off.....it can be a silent partner to Russia and join later.
Even North Korea has a pair of satellites orbiting in a perpendicular motion to any other nation and traversing the horizon of North America each day...
It's not a question of if.... just how much. Will the various nations open fire and destroy human life everywhere for generations to come or will they choose to lob atmospheric bursts and let each other starve and become dehydrated from lack of potable water, and civil strife.
I'm not worried about EMP... it's the best of shit options on offer.
If you're not worried about nukes or EMP, then I duno what you're being so concerned about. There's no way the US will let Russia or China launch their missiles anywhere close to US coasts.
Lets not forget the US have Russia and China by the balls with the sheer number of bases established in the Asia Pacific, chance are Russia and China will be the first to lose if hell breaks lose, the US might get a dent and that's it. Assuming there's no other top secret stuff hidden from public.
The US is as powerless as anybody else to prevent a first strike, whether a dirty ground burst attack or upper atmospheric pulse attack... I don't get where the confusion is...
A sub is a sub is a sub and they carry shitloads.
Bases mean nothing, and nor do antiquated aircraft carriers...
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 02:40:03 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 02:40:03 PM
Turkey will go with whomever is winning despite housing American missiles in its interior. China doesn't have to kick off.....it can be a silent partner to Russia and join later.
Even North Korea has a pair of satellites orbiting in a perpendicular motion to any other nation and traversing the horizon of North America each day...
It's not a question of if.... just how much. Will the various nations open fire and destroy human life everywhere for generations to come or will they choose to lob atmospheric bursts and let each other starve and become dehydrated from lack of potable water, and civil strife.
I'm not worried about EMP... it's the best of shit options on offer.
If you're not worried about nukes or EMP, then I duno what you're being so concerned about. There's no way the US will let Russia or China launch their missiles anywhere close to US coasts.
Lets not forget the US have Russia and China by the balls with the sheer number of bases established in the Asia Pacific, chance are Russia and China will be the first to lose if hell breaks lose, the US might get a dent and that's it. Assuming there's no other top secret stuff hidden from public.
The US is as powerless as anybody else to prevent a first strike, whether a dirty ground burst attack or upper atmospheric pulse attack... I don't get where the confusion is...
A sub is a sub is a sub and they carry shitloads.
Bases mean nothing, and nor do antiquated aircraft carriers...
Lol, again the question is not who gets the first strike, but is Russia and China together capable of creating an effective "delivery" system to disable the US. I don't care if the average SSBN can carry about 240 nuclear warheads, with THAADs and latest anti missile lasers, satelites, aircraft carrier battle groups, and other hypersonic missiles 10x the speed of sound and a whole fleet of Seawolf class vessels with not 1, but 13 sonars. I'm starting to question are you just paranoid to a level you have no idea what you're talking about.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 02:47:37 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 02:47:37 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 11, 2021, 02:55:56 PM
Post by: Frood on April 11, 2021, 02:55:56 PM
Turkey will go with whomever is winning despite housing American missiles in its interior. China doesn't have to kick off.....it can be a silent partner to Russia and join later.
Even North Korea has a pair of satellites orbiting in a perpendicular motion to any other nation and traversing the horizon of North America each day...
It's not a question of if.... just how much. Will the various nations open fire and destroy human life everywhere for generations to come or will they choose to lob atmospheric bursts and let each other starve and become dehydrated from lack of potable water, and civil strife.
I'm not worried about EMP... it's the best of shit options on offer.
If you're not worried about nukes or EMP, then I duno what you're being so concerned about. There's no way the US will let Russia or China launch their missiles anywhere close to US coasts.
Lets not forget the US have Russia and China by the balls with the sheer number of bases established in the Asia Pacific, chance are Russia and China will be the first to lose if hell breaks lose, the US might get a dent and that's it. Assuming there's no other top secret stuff hidden from public.
The US is as powerless as anybody else to prevent a first strike, whether a dirty ground burst attack or upper atmospheric pulse attack... I don't get where the confusion is...
A sub is a sub is a sub and they carry shitloads.
Bases mean nothing, and nor do antiquated aircraft carriers...
Lol, again the question is not who gets the first strike, but is Russia and China together capable of creating an effective "delivery" system to disable the US. I don't care if the average SSBN can carry about 240 nuclear warheads, with THAADs and latest anti missile lasers, satelites, aircraft carrier battle groups, and other hypersonic missiles 10x the speed of sound and a whole fleet of Seawolf class vessels with not 1, but 13 sonars. I'm starting to question are you just paranoid to a level you have no idea what you're talking about.
Are you right in the membrane? If you don't care, you're not considering...
GI Joe doesn't exist and NATO has been scratching out a reason to exist after the Cold War initially ended by bringing a Cuban missile crises styled headache to Eastern Europe a la Russia.
You just don't get it. The US and NATO are two entities in severe decline.
That video I mentioned of multiple Russian subs surfacing through the ice half way to the continental US should have been enough for a logical person to do the maths and say "oh shit, this shit just got real"..
MAD still applies...but only marginally. Fukushima Daiichi was the litmus test and COVID hysteria has only bolstered the bottom line. People will follow orders no matter how fucktarded they are...
Atmospheric bursts are going to be perfectly acceptable to a number of nations. Preferable even to ground bursts... bonus points if you can blame it on the sun for a short while.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 11, 2021, 02:57:05 PM
Post by: Frood on April 11, 2021, 02:57:05 PM
Look at the whole picture Dinky, the US have multiple layers and layers of defense and a wide range offensive options, China only has their unpredictable flight pattern cruise missile, and the current Russian Yasen class is no match for the previous Virginia class, let alone for the Seawolf class.
Sorry but I can't anymore with you. It's just too painful to witness.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 03:18:40 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 03:18:40 PM
Turkey will go with whomever is winning despite housing American missiles in its interior. China doesn't have to kick off.....it can be a silent partner to Russia and join later.
Even North Korea has a pair of satellites orbiting in a perpendicular motion to any other nation and traversing the horizon of North America each day...
It's not a question of if.... just how much. Will the various nations open fire and destroy human life everywhere for generations to come or will they choose to lob atmospheric bursts and let each other starve and become dehydrated from lack of potable water, and civil strife.
I'm not worried about EMP... it's the best of shit options on offer.
If you're not worried about nukes or EMP, then I duno what you're being so concerned about. There's no way the US will let Russia or China launch their missiles anywhere close to US coasts.
Lets not forget the US have Russia and China by the balls with the sheer number of bases established in the Asia Pacific, chance are Russia and China will be the first to lose if hell breaks lose, the US might get a dent and that's it. Assuming there's no other top secret stuff hidden from public.
The US is as powerless as anybody else to prevent a first strike, whether a dirty ground burst attack or upper atmospheric pulse attack... I don't get where the confusion is...
Do you even realize how much anti missile
A sub is a sub is a sub and they carry shitloads.
Bases mean nothing, and nor do antiquated aircraft carriers...
Lol, again the question is not who gets the first strike, but is Russia and China together capable of creating an effective "delivery" system to disable the US. I don't care if the average SSBN can carry about 240 nuclear warheads, with THAADs and latest anti missile lasers, satelites, aircraft carrier battle groups, and other hypersonic missiles 10x the speed of sound and a whole fleet of Seawolf class vessels with not 1, but 13 sonars. I'm starting to question are you just paranoid to a level you have no idea what you're talking about.
Are you right in the membrane? If you don't care, you're not considering...
GI Joe doesn't exist and NATO has been scratching out a reason to exist after the Cold War initially ended by bringing a Cuban missile crises styled headache to Eastern Europe a la Russia.
You just don't get it. The US and NATO are two entities in severe decline.
That video I mentioned of multiple Russian subs surfacing through the ice half way to the continental US should have been enough for a logical person to do the maths and say "oh shit, this shit just got real"..
MAD still applies...but only marginally. Fukushima Daiichi was the litmus test and COVID hysteria has only bolstered the bottom line. People will follow orders no matter how fucktarded they are...
Atmospheric bursts are going to be perfectly acceptable to a number of nations. Preferable even to ground bursts... bonus points if you can blame it on the sun for a short while.
So please enlighten me Dinky, are you saying US, as a nation with their aerospace technology decades ahead of Russia, China and the rest of the world, that
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 03:29:11 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 03:29:11 PM
Look at the whole picture Dinky, the US have multiple layers and layers of defense and a wide range offensive options, China only has their unpredictable flight pattern cruise missile, and the current Russian Yasen class is no match for the previous Virginia class, let alone for the Seawolf class.
:001_rolleyes:
Sorry but I can't anymore with you. It's just too painful to witness.
You're being paranoid as usual Dinky, and still make no sense. I've still yet to hear what type of effective method China and Russia can use to disable US mainland.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 11, 2021, 03:34:18 PM
Post by: Frood on April 11, 2021, 03:34:18 PM
If you're not worried about nukes or EMP, then I duno what you're being so concerned about. There's no way the US will let Russia or China launch their missiles anywhere close to US coasts.
Lets not forget the US have Russia and China by the balls with the sheer number of bases established in the Asia Pacific, chance are Russia and China will be the first to lose if hell breaks lose, the US might get a dent and that's it. Assuming there's no other top secret stuff hidden from public.
The US is as powerless as anybody else to prevent a first strike, whether a dirty ground burst attack or upper atmospheric pulse attack... I don't get where the confusion is...
Do you even realize how much anti missile
A sub is a sub is a sub and they carry shitloads.
Bases mean nothing, and nor do antiquated aircraft carriers...
Lol, again the question is not who gets the first strike, but is Russia and China together capable of creating an effective "delivery" system to disable the US. I don't care if the average SSBN can carry about 240 nuclear warheads, with THAADs and latest anti missile lasers, satelites, aircraft carrier battle groups, and other hypersonic missiles 10x the speed of sound and a whole fleet of Seawolf class vessels with not 1, but 13 sonars. I'm starting to question are you just paranoid to a level you have no idea what you're talking about.
Are you right in the membrane? If you don't care, you're not considering...
GI Joe doesn't exist and NATO has been scratching out a reason to exist after the Cold War initially ended by bringing a Cuban missile crises styled headache to Eastern Europe a la Russia.
You just don't get it. The US and NATO are two entities in severe decline.
That video I mentioned of multiple Russian subs surfacing through the ice half way to the continental US should have been enough for a logical person to do the maths and say "oh shit, this shit just got real"..
MAD still applies...but only marginally. Fukushima Daiichi was the litmus test and COVID hysteria has only bolstered the bottom line. People will follow orders no matter how fucktarded they are...
Atmospheric bursts are going to be perfectly acceptable to a number of nations. Preferable even to ground bursts... bonus points if you can blame it on the sun for a short while.
So please enlighten me Dinky, are you saying US, as a nation,ALLof their anti missile defense together is useless and unable to counter Russian ICBMs?
Ok, one more time...
Neither nation can stop launches or hits.
It will be MAD on the ground, or MAD on the electrical grids, though Russia is far more hardened than the US.
The best possible scenario is that electronics are rendered inoperable, supply chains break down, water, food, gas, and propane dry up, and people fight each other....but no major radiation.
The worst case is convential nuke strikes, and Russians have more bunkers and are better prepared. Radiation everywhere.
Look at the whole picture Dinky, the US have multiple layers and layers of defense and a wide range offensive options, China only has their unpredictable flight pattern cruise missile, and the current Russian Yasen class is no match for the previous Virginia class, let alone for the Seawolf class.
:001_rolleyes:
Sorry but I can't anymore with you. It's just too painful to witness.
You're being paranoid as usual Dinky, and still make no sense. I've still yet to hear what type of effective method China and Russia can use to disable US mainland.
Read more, talk less.... my suggestion to you.
Ok, thnx, bye, good talk....
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 03:38:57 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 03:38:57 PM
The US is as powerless as anybody else to prevent a first strike, whether a dirty ground burst attack or upper atmospheric pulse attack... I don't get where the confusion is...
Do you even realize how much anti missile
A sub is a sub is a sub and they carry shitloads.
Bases mean nothing, and nor do antiquated aircraft carriers...
Lol, again the question is not who gets the first strike, but is Russia and China together capable of creating an effective "delivery" system to disable the US. I don't care if the average SSBN can carry about 240 nuclear warheads, with THAADs and latest anti missile lasers, satelites, aircraft carrier battle groups, and other hypersonic missiles 10x the speed of sound and a whole fleet of Seawolf class vessels with not 1, but 13 sonars. I'm starting to question are you just paranoid to a level you have no idea what you're talking about.
Are you right in the membrane? If you don't care, you're not considering...
GI Joe doesn't exist and NATO has been scratching out a reason to exist after the Cold War initially ended by bringing a Cuban missile crises styled headache to Eastern Europe a la Russia.
You just don't get it. The US and NATO are two entities in severe decline.
That video I mentioned of multiple Russian subs surfacing through the ice half way to the continental US should have been enough for a logical person to do the maths and say "oh shit, this shit just got real"..
MAD still applies...but only marginally. Fukushima Daiichi was the litmus test and COVID hysteria has only bolstered the bottom line. People will follow orders no matter how fucktarded they are...
Atmospheric bursts are going to be perfectly acceptable to a number of nations. Preferable even to ground bursts... bonus points if you can blame it on the sun for a short while.
So please enlighten me Dinky, are you saying US, as a nation,ALLof their anti missile defense together is useless and unable to counter Russian ICBMs?
Ok, one more time...
Neither nation can stop launches or hits.
It will be MAD on the ground, or MAD on the electrical grids, though Russia is far more hardened than the US.
The best possible scenario is that electronics are rendered inoperable, supply chains break down, water, food, gas, and propane dry up, and people fight each other....but no major radiation.
The worst case is convential nuke strikes, and Russians have more bunkers and are better prepared. Radiation everywhere.
Look at the whole picture Dinky, the US have multiple layers and layers of defense and a wide range offensive options, China only has their unpredictable flight pattern cruise missile, and the current Russian Yasen class is no match for the previous Virginia class, let alone for the Seawolf class.
:001_rolleyes:
Sorry but I can't anymore with you. It's just too painful to witness.
You're being paranoid as usual Dinky, and still make no sense. I've still yet to hear what type of effective method China and Russia can use to disable US mainland.
Read more, talk less.... my suggestion to you.
Ok, thnx, bye, good talk....:001_rolleyes:
You might want to take your own advise, read more... and my advise, stop being so paranoid to a level you have no logic or ability to analyze left. And you do realize ICBM launched from subs are the easily to shoot down as they have little to no AI, just fly pretty much straight guide, just sitting ducks for Patriot SAMs.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 11, 2021, 03:41:02 PM
Post by: Frood on April 11, 2021, 03:41:02 PM
Stick to birds...
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 03:46:46 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 03:46:46 PM
:001_rolleyes:
Stick to birds...
I've countered all of your arguments, the only point you can come up with that interests me is there are Russian nuclear subs lurking in the Atlantic, again the US are already signing agreement to get their subs to leave. Even if they don't, they'll have to get past US subs(including their state of teh art Seawolf), THAADs and anti-missile defense on the coast, aircraft carrier battle groups that also provide a mobile missile defense, AEGIS network of destroyers that and also covers a insanely large area to protect their carriers from missiles.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 04:07:19 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 04:07:19 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Odinson on April 11, 2021, 05:13:02 PM
Post by: Odinson on April 11, 2021, 05:13:02 PM
Iron dome, phalanx.
The US warships shoot a smaller missile to take out the bigger one.
Otherwise they would be fucked if some1 shoots at them.
The phalanx can intercept mortar rounds... It can intercept missiles.
The americanos also seem to have lasers... And I aint joking.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 06:36:42 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 11, 2021, 06:36:42 PM
There are missile defenses.
Iron dome, phalanx.
The US warships shoot a smaller missile to take out the bigger one.
Otherwise they would be fucked if some1 shoots at them.
The phalanx can intercept mortar rounds... It can intercept missiles.
The americanos also seem to have lasers... And I aint joking.
Yep, though I can understand Dinky's concern are the ICBMs traveling in outer space at hypersonic speeds can be hard to aim, but then the AEGIS have velocity missiles to take out the ICBM as high as 200 miles above sea level, not to mention he's reading very outdated old tech info that has been parroted around online by many people. The AEGIS class already will be installing a new set of anti-ballistic missiles that will be a lot more effective, and "each" AEGIS destroyer have 100 of these missiles.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 11, 2021, 09:39:27 PM
Post by: Frood on April 11, 2021, 09:39:27 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 10:08:48 AM
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 10:08:48 AM
Read up on Bulava's, kid...
Honestly I fail to see how is this any different from the previous class of SSBNs, might be improved, but no new break through tech that the US can't counter with their current military. The US originally planned to manufacture about 30 Seawolf class subs, unfortunately it's been downsize to 12 atm, but chance are if the Russians continue to catch up they'll might manufacture even more than they've planned.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 10:14:11 AM
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 10:14:11 AM
Ok, whatever you say. I can't be bothered expending any more effort to rescue you from your knowledge deficiency.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 10:18:31 AM
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 10:18:31 AM
:001_rolleyes:
Ok, whatever you say. I can't be bothered expending any more effort to rescue you from your knowledge deficiency.
ac_boring
You're ability to analyze and comprehend seem to be getting worst by each post.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 10:23:03 AM
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 10:23:03 AM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 10:23:34 AM
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 10:23:34 AM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 10:28:42 AM
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 10:28:42 AM
I'm happy to let you wallow in your ignorance unabated...
You keep parroting the same argument instead of coming with critical info that is convincing, the US have beat the Russians in the cold war, with a stronger economy than Russia, high chance are the US will win again.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 10:33:43 AM
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 10:33:43 AM
Ok, whatever...
I tried to lead a jackass to water, but I couldn't make you drink... :(
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 10:36:09 AM
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 10:36:09 AM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 10:37:06 AM
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 10:37:06 AM
:001_rolleyes:
Ok, whatever...
I tried to lead a jackass to water, but I couldn't make you drink... :(
When you have nothing else better to day, throw insults, troll 101 tactics.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 10:41:44 AM
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 10:41:44 AM
Carry on...
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 10:43:22 AM
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 10:43:22 AM
:001_rolleyes:
Carry on...
ac_boring
I think I should wrap it up here, no point wasting time with a paranoid and stubborn troll
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 10:49:08 AM
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 10:49:08 AM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on April 12, 2021, 11:57:42 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 12, 2021, 11:57:42 AM
:001_rolleyes:
Carry on...
ac_boring
I think I should wrap it up here, no point wasting time with a paranoid and stubborn troll:nea:
I don't think he is trolling.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: cc on April 12, 2021, 01:30:11 PM
Post by: cc on April 12, 2021, 01:30:11 PM
:001_rolleyes:
Carry on...
ac_boring
I think I should wrap it up here, no point wasting time with a paranoid and stubborn troll:nea:
I don't think he is trolling.
You are correct IH. He posts the things he actually believes
We have a conspiracy nutcase à la the Liverpool Lollipop wannabe nazi clown .. one of those who spend their time getting fueled up / adrenalized amongst a bunch of mutually supportive conspiracy nutcases in areas of the net where the crazies hang out .. places that real people do not bother with or don't even know exist
For every factual item you state they have already viewed a hundred self-made videos "absolutely proving" the opposite
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 01:52:32 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 01:52:32 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: cc on April 12, 2021, 02:06:58 PM
Post by: cc on April 12, 2021, 02:06:58 PM
That seems the way of all conspiracy heads .. it's everything .. For one of many examples, on Covid itself or on vaccines, views are hilarious once one realizes they are from conspiracy heads / sources
They are like virtual clones ... predictable because they all believe the very same things from the very same sources ... and they only counter with "their" facts ... while actually believing what they are saying = not even consider other possibilities = not gonna change
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 02:40:41 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 02:40:41 PM
And it's not just that area. It's on all issues
That seems the way of all conspiracy heads .. it's everything .. For one of many examples, on Covid itself or on vaccines, views are hilarious once one realizes they are from conspiracy heads / sources
They are like virtual clones ... predictable because they all believe the very same things from the very same sources ... and they only counter with "their" facts ... while actually believing what they are saying = not even consider other possibilities = not gonna change
Couldn't be anymore true for those guys, would be nice if they look at both side of the coin instead of just acting paranoid.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: cc on April 12, 2021, 04:23:47 PM
Post by: cc on April 12, 2021, 04:23:47 PM
And it's not just that area. It's on all issues
That seems the way of all conspiracy heads .. it's everything .. For one of many examples, on Covid itself or on vaccines, views are hilarious once one realizes they are from conspiracy heads / sources
They are like virtual clones ... predictable because they all believe the very same things from the very same sources ... and they only counter with "their" facts ... while actually believing what they are saying = not even consider other possibilities = not gonna change
Couldn't be anymore true for those guys, would be nice if they look at both side of the coin instead of just acting paranoid.
Once one understands how they got to where they are, one can predict their conspiracies' c/w harsh self-serving tactics to the letter
That should stir the pot
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 06:19:56 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 06:19:56 PM
And it's not just that area. It's on all issues
That seems the way of all conspiracy heads .. it's everything .. For one of many examples, on Covid itself or on vaccines, views are hilarious once one realizes they are from conspiracy heads / sources
They are like virtual clones ... predictable because they all believe the very same things from the very same sources ... and they only counter with "their" facts ... while actually believing what they are saying = not even consider other possibilities = not gonna change
Couldn't be anymore true for those guys, would be nice if they look at both side of the coin instead of just acting paranoid.
If you know 1 of them, you know all of them
They are all virtually identical clones programmed at the same web factories .. all learning the same operational tacticsMeantime, theses "cultists" take great pride in their being "different", "thinking individuals" and knowing things that none of us unenlightened mere mortals outside of the cult know,:rules: .. sigh ..ac_smile
Once one understands how they got to where they are, one can predict their conspiracies' c/w harsh self-serving tactics to the letter
That should stir the potac_smile
I think I should help stir the pot too, lol. Though my concern with Dinky here is he only listens to the bad or the negative news, and ignore the technical facts.
He seems to have yet to realize Russia has a total around 284 ICBMs, while the US alone has 84 AEGIS class vessels(this isn't including any other layers of anti missile defense) that each has around 100 anti-ballistic missiles, so 84 x 100 = 8,400 anti-ballistic missiles to intercept Russia's 284 ICBMs. But then they only intercept at a 95% chance under ideal conditions, if not in under ideal conditions it's only about 60%, but the issue can be solved by simply using around 3 anti-ballistic missiles vs each of Russia's ICBM to greatly increase the probability of success. Since the AEGIS anti-ballistic missiles compared to the Russian ICBMs is a ratio of 30 : 1, it's quite obvious this proves my point the whole time.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on April 12, 2021, 06:44:27 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 12, 2021, 06:44:27 PM
And it's not just that area. It's on all issues
That seems the way of all conspiracy heads .. it's everything .. For one of many examples, on Covid itself or on vaccines, views are hilarious once one realizes they are from conspiracy heads / sources
They are like virtual clones ... predictable because they all believe the very same things from the very same sources ... and they only counter with "their" facts ... while actually believing what they are saying = not even consider other possibilities = not gonna change
Couldn't be anymore true for those guys, would be nice if they look at both side of the coin instead of just acting paranoid.
If you know 1 of them, you know all of them
They are all virtually identical clones programmed at the same web factories .. all learning the same operational tacticsMeantime, theses "cultists" take great pride in their being "different", "thinking individuals" and knowing things that none of us unenlightened mere mortals outside of the cult know,:rules: .. sigh ..ac_smile
Once one understands how they got to where they are, one can predict their conspiracies' c/w harsh self-serving tactics to the letter
That should stir the potac_smile
I think I should help stir the pot too, lol. Though my concern with Dinky here is he only listens to the bad or the negative news, and ignore the technical facts.
He seems to have yet to realize Russia has a total around 284 ICBMs, while the US alone has 84 AEGIS class vessels(this isn't including any other layers of anti missile defense) that each has around 100 anti-ballistic missiles, so 84 x 100 = 8,400 anti-ballistic missiles to intercept Russia's 284 ICBMs. But then they only intercept at a 95% chance under ideal conditions, if not in under ideal conditions it's only about 60%, but the issue can be solved by simply using around 3 anti-ballistic missiles vs each of Russia's ICBM to greatly increase the probability of success. Since the AEGIS anti-ballistic missiles compared to the Russian ICBMs is a ratio of 30 : 1, it's quite obvious this proves my point the whole time.
You really know this Zetsu.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 06:58:38 PM
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 06:58:38 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 07:03:27 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 07:03:27 PM
And it's not just that area. It's on all issues
That seems the way of all conspiracy heads .. it's everything .. For one of many examples, on Covid itself or on vaccines, views are hilarious once one realizes they are from conspiracy heads / sources
They are like virtual clones ... predictable because they all believe the very same things from the very same sources ... and they only counter with "their" facts ... while actually believing what they are saying = not even consider other possibilities = not gonna change
Couldn't be anymore true for those guys, would be nice if they look at both side of the coin instead of just acting paranoid.
If you know 1 of them, you know all of them
They are all virtually identical clones programmed at the same web factories .. all learning the same operational tacticsMeantime, theses "cultists" take great pride in their being "different", "thinking individuals" and knowing things that none of us unenlightened mere mortals outside of the cult know,:rules: .. sigh ..ac_smile
Once one understands how they got to where they are, one can predict their conspiracies' c/w harsh self-serving tactics to the letter
That should stir the potac_smile
I think I should help stir the pot too, lol. Though my concern with Dinky here is he only listens to the bad or the negative news, and ignore the technical facts.
He seems to have yet to realize Russia has a total around 284 ICBMs, while the US alone has 84 AEGIS class vessels(this isn't including any other layers of anti missile defense) that each has around 100 anti-ballistic missiles, so 84 x 100 = 8,400 anti-ballistic missiles to intercept Russia's 284 ICBMs. But then they only intercept at a 95% chance under ideal conditions, if not in under ideal conditions it's only about 60%, but the issue can be solved by simply using around 3 anti-ballistic missiles vs each of Russia's ICBM to greatly increase the probability of success. Since the AEGIS anti-ballistic missiles compared to the Russian ICBMs is a ratio of 30 : 1, it's quite obvious this proves my point the whole time.
You really know this Zetsu.
Despite bringing up the numbers and facts, I don't think Dinky will be convinced, lol.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 07:05:08 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 07:05:08 PM
He hasn't a clue but meh....
You're getting dumber by the minute Dinky. Would be nice if you can come up with some facts or logical analysis to prove me wrong.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: cc on April 12, 2021, 07:19:32 PM
Post by: cc on April 12, 2021, 07:19:32 PM
He hasn't a clue but meh....
...Would be nice if you can come up with some facts or logical analysis to prove me wrong.:oeudC:
That's not how these conspiracy cultists operate in any situation .. "He hasn't a clue but meh." is the best he has to offer
We are seeing the same crap followed by the same putdown tactics on vaccines
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 07:23:24 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 07:23:24 PM
He hasn't a clue but meh....
Tb fair, I didn't include SLBMs which should be, so the ratio of AEGIS anti-ballistic missiles to Russian ICBM/SLBM is closer to 20 : 1, but than this doesn't include the US's latest state of the art THAAD missile and radar system along with the Patriot missiles used to defend US mainland.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 07:24:11 PM
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 07:24:11 PM
He hasn't a clue but meh....
You're getting dumber by the minute Dinky. Would be nice if you can come up with some facts or logical analysis to prove me wrong.:oeudC:
I already laid out why Russian subs, their modern ICBM model, and how they've halved launch distances is a game changer...
I kind of feel bad for you.... you have this misguided superiority complex when it comes to the West... :(
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 07:25:29 PM
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 07:25:29 PM
He hasn't a clue but meh....
...Would be nice if you can come up with some facts or logical analysis to prove me wrong.:oeudC:
That's not how these conspiracy cultists operate in any situation .. "He hasn't a clue but meh." is the best he has to offer
We are seeing the same crap followed by the same putdown tactics on vaccines
You too on what I said to Zetsu...
Naivety squared...
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 07:26:44 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 07:26:44 PM
He hasn't a clue but meh....
You're getting dumber by the minute Dinky. Would be nice if you can come up with some facts or logical analysis to prove me wrong.:oeudC:
I already laid out why Russian subs, their modern ICBM model, and how they've halved launch distances is a game changer...
I kind of feel bad for you.... you have this misguided superiority complex when it comes to the West... :(
Care to quote where you've laid out that makes it a game changer?
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 07:29:34 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 07:29:34 PM
He hasn't a clue but meh....
...Would be nice if you can come up with some facts or logical analysis to prove me wrong.:oeudC:
That's not how these conspiracy cultists operate in any situation .. "He hasn't a clue but meh." is the best he has to offer
We are seeing the same crap followed by the same putdown tactics on vaccines
Not only is he getting dumber, but lazy too to prove anything logical or makes sense and expect us to believe in him.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 07:37:57 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 07:37:57 PM
Also halving their launch distance doesn't mean anything, whether it's in Turkey or any other country, considering they're in foreign territory the US can just place their anti missile defense in a neighbour country and shoot it down during the boost phase, which makes it a lot more convenient for the US.
Submarines still remain the biggest threat since they can launch anywhere, but again the US have sub hunting recon aircrafts, remote submergible drones and constructed sonar systems on the ocean sea beds to help track down Russian subs and they'll be dealt with by the Seawolf, even if they launch they'll have to get pass the AEGIS, THAAD and Patriots which are all extremely expensive projects.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 08:28:31 PM
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 08:28:31 PM
He hasn't a clue but meh....
You're getting dumber by the minute Dinky. Would be nice if you can come up with some facts or logical analysis to prove me wrong.:oeudC:
I already laid out why Russian subs, their modern ICBM model, and how they've halved launch distances is a game changer...
I kind of feel bad for you.... you have this misguided superiority complex when it comes to the West... :(
Care to quote where you've laid out that makes it a game changer?:001_rolleyes:
You refused to recognize it the first time it was posted. Wipe your own bottom, mate...
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 08:29:42 PM
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 08:29:42 PM
Dinky, you do know that their latest ICBMs doesn't represent their entire nuclear force, just a tiny faction.:001_rolleyes:
Also halving their launch distance doesn't many anything, whether it's in Turkey or any other country, considering they're in foreign territory the US can just place their anti missile defense in a neighbour country and shoot it down during the boost phase, which makes it a lot more convenient for the US.
Submarines still remain the biggest threat since they can launch anywhere, but again the US have sub hunting recon aircrafts, remote submergible drones and constructed sonar systems on the ocean sea beds to help track down Russian subs and they'll be dealt with by the Seawolf, even if they launch they'll have to get pass the AEGIS, THAAD and Patriots which are all extremely expensive projects.
You're like a broken unrecorded record...
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 08:36:48 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 08:36:48 PM
Dinky, you do know that their latest ICBMs doesn't represent their entire nuclear force, just a tiny faction.:001_rolleyes:
Also halving their launch distance doesn't many anything, whether it's in Turkey or any other country, considering they're in foreign territory the US can just place their anti missile defense in a neighbour country and shoot it down during the boost phase, which makes it a lot more convenient for the US.
Submarines still remain the biggest threat since they can launch anywhere, but again the US have sub hunting recon aircrafts, remote submergible drones and constructed sonar systems on the ocean sea beds to help track down Russian subs and they'll be dealt with by the Seawolf, even if they launch they'll have to get pass the AEGIS, THAAD and Patriots which are all extremely expensive projects.
:001_rolleyes:
You're like a broken unrecorded record...
B/c that's how ignorant and stupid you are.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 08:44:01 PM
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 08:44:01 PM
Dinky, you do know that their latest ICBMs doesn't represent their entire nuclear force, just a tiny faction.:001_rolleyes:
Also halving their launch distance doesn't many anything, whether it's in Turkey or any other country, considering they're in foreign territory the US can just place their anti missile defense in a neighbour country and shoot it down during the boost phase, which makes it a lot more convenient for the US.
Submarines still remain the biggest threat since they can launch anywhere, but again the US have sub hunting recon aircrafts, remote submergible drones and constructed sonar systems on the ocean sea beds to help track down Russian subs and they'll be dealt with by the Seawolf, even if they launch they'll have to get pass the AEGIS, THAAD and Patriots which are all extremely expensive projects.
:001_rolleyes:
You're like a broken unrecorded record...
B/c that's how ignorant and stupid you are.:001_rolleyes:
Should I swab my genitals with molasses and bird seed then let a bunch of winged rats clean it off? You know... to break my alleged cycle of ignorance and stupidity and raise me to your esteemed sense of superiority?...
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 08:44:44 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 08:44:44 PM
He hasn't a clue but meh....
You're getting dumber by the minute Dinky. Would be nice if you can come up with some facts or logical analysis to prove me wrong.:oeudC:
I already laid out why Russian subs, their modern ICBM model, and how they've halved launch distances is a game changer...
I kind of feel bad for you.... you have this misguided superiority complex when it comes to the West... :(
Care to quote where you've laid out that makes it a game changer?:001_rolleyes:
You refused to recognize it the first time it was posted. Wipe your own bottom, mate...
You've just posted a bunch of news and failed to use your head, that's all. You might want to stick to facts and logic instead of just believing what the writer claims.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 08:46:58 PM
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 08:46:58 PM
You're like the Energizer Chicken of stupid who keeps clucking and clucking and clucking...
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 08:48:01 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 08:48:01 PM
Dinky, you do know that their latest ICBMs doesn't represent their entire nuclear force, just a tiny faction.:001_rolleyes:
Also halving their launch distance doesn't many anything, whether it's in Turkey or any other country, considering they're in foreign territory the US can just place their anti missile defense in a neighbour country and shoot it down during the boost phase, which makes it a lot more convenient for the US.
Submarines still remain the biggest threat since they can launch anywhere, but again the US have sub hunting recon aircrafts, remote submergible drones and constructed sonar systems on the ocean sea beds to help track down Russian subs and they'll be dealt with by the Seawolf, even if they launch they'll have to get pass the AEGIS, THAAD and Patriots which are all extremely expensive projects.
:001_rolleyes:
You're like a broken unrecorded record...
B/c that's how ignorant and stupid you are.:001_rolleyes:
Should I swab my genitals with molasses and bird seed then let a bunch of winged rats clean it off? You know... to break my alleged cycle of ignorance and stupidity and raise me to your esteemed sense of superiority?...:laugh3:
Allow me to quote what I've said
"Dinky, you do know that their latest ICBMs doesn't represent their entire nuclear force, just a tiny faction.
Also halving their launch distance doesn't mean anything, whether it's in Turkey or any other country, considering they're in foreign territory the US can just place their anti missile defense in a neighbour country and shoot it down during the boost phase, which makes it a lot more convenient for the US.
Submarines still remain the biggest threat since they can launch anywhere, but again the US have sub hunting recon aircrafts, remote submergible drones and constructed sonar systems on the ocean sea beds to help track down Russian subs and they'll be dealt with by the Seawolf, even if they launch they'll have to get pass the AEGIS, THAAD and Patriots which are all extremely expensive projects."
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 08:51:42 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 08:51:42 PM
:001_rolleyes:
You're like the Energizer Chicken of stupid who keeps clucking and clucking and clucking...ac_hithere
What I've posted isn't that hard to grasp, the project to R&D the AEGIS was solely design to defend the US aircraft carrier battle groups from missile threats and the US mainland from a nuclear armageddon. So I'm still waiting for you to counter my argument or do I have to repeat myself as usual.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 08:53:07 PM
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 08:53:07 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 08:55:56 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 08:55:56 PM
Why don't YOU go back and reread what I said...
This is why no one here can take you seriously, you're just a dumb lazy and weak coward after all.
"As usual you've failed to mentioned any new tech that has the break through capability to penetrate the current US missile defense shield. US's anti missile radar has greatly improved over the years to detect decoy and real ICBMs, and like I've mentioned before the US has a number of base in the Asia pacific and will have to get through Japan and South Korea's missile defense first. Even if the Russians can attack through the south pole instead of the arctic, the US will also have that covered as I've a feeling they will alli with the Philippines for this reason."
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 08:58:51 PM
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 08:58:51 PM
No yuo!
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 09:00:49 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 09:00:49 PM
:001_rolleyes:
No yuo!
Grow a brain before babbling, it'll make you look slightly less retarded.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 09:03:30 PM
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 09:03:30 PM
:001_rolleyes:
No yuo!
Bok bok bok bok bok.... bok BOK bok bok... BAGOCKKK!
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 09:05:59 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 12, 2021, 09:05:59 PM
:001_rolleyes:
No yuo!
Bok bok bok bok bok.... bok BOK bok bok... BAGOCKKK!
:pop:
Looks like cc is right as usual
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 09:08:39 PM
Post by: Frood on April 12, 2021, 09:08:39 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Odinson on April 14, 2021, 04:00:45 PM
Post by: Odinson on April 14, 2021, 04:00:45 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 14, 2021, 06:39:28 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 14, 2021, 06:39:28 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 15, 2021, 02:10:59 AM
Post by: Frood on April 15, 2021, 02:10:59 AM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on April 15, 2021, 11:41:06 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 15, 2021, 11:41:06 AM
I forgot to mentioned even if including China's nuclear ballistic missiles, the AEGIS's defensive ammunition still out numbered their ICBM and SLBMs a ratio of 18 : 1.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 16, 2021, 01:18:31 AM
Post by: Frood on April 16, 2021, 01:18:31 AM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on April 16, 2021, 10:14:02 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 16, 2021, 10:14:02 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on April 16, 2021, 10:56:15 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 16, 2021, 10:56:15 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on April 16, 2021, 11:02:34 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 16, 2021, 11:02:34 PM
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I know that's meant as a funny meme, but it doesn't make me laugh.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: cc on April 16, 2021, 11:35:04 PM
Post by: cc on April 16, 2021, 11:35:04 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on April 16, 2021, 11:35:51 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 16, 2021, 11:35:51 PM
It doesn't make me laugh either .. cry maybe ... but it's the way it is
yes
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 17, 2021, 07:15:48 AM
Post by: Zetsu on April 17, 2021, 07:15:48 AM
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This is so sad and true, I don't understand why Trudeau has to always focus on the useless petty issues while the rest of the millions of people in Canada suffers.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on April 17, 2021, 10:07:06 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 17, 2021, 10:07:06 AM
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This is so sad and true, I don't understand why Trudeau has to always focus on the useless petty issues while the rest of the millions of people in Canada suffers.ac_unsure
Without virtue signalling, Justin Trudeau has nothing to offer.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Odinson on April 17, 2021, 11:00:34 AM
Post by: Odinson on April 17, 2021, 11:00:34 AM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 17, 2021, 10:19:39 PM
Post by: Frood on April 17, 2021, 10:19:39 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Odinson on April 18, 2021, 04:57:19 PM
Post by: Odinson on April 18, 2021, 04:57:19 PM
And manly men will always win.
Russians win and then go on a drunken rampage.
Beautiful.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 19, 2021, 07:32:59 PM
Post by: Zetsu on April 19, 2021, 07:32:59 PM
Russians are manlier than current Americans...
And manly men will always win.
Russians win and then go on a drunken rampage.
Beautiful.
Manliness is in the eyes of the beholder, for Asian women they prefer decent looking men that can put lots of bread on the table and is nice to her.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on April 20, 2021, 12:05:14 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 20, 2021, 12:05:14 AM
Russians are manlier than current Americans...
And manly men will always win.
Russians win and then go on a drunken rampage.
Beautiful.
Manliness is in the eyes of the beholder, for Asian women they prefer decent looking men that can put lots of bread on the table and is nice to her.
You just described Shen Li.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 20, 2021, 05:30:41 AM
Post by: Frood on April 20, 2021, 05:30:41 AM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 20, 2021, 10:35:23 AM
Post by: Zetsu on April 20, 2021, 10:35:23 AM
Russians are manlier than current Americans...
And manly men will always win.
Russians win and then go on a drunken rampage.
Beautiful.
Manliness is in the eyes of the beholder, for Asian women they prefer decent looking men that can put lots of bread on the table and is nice to her.
You just described Shen Li.
:laugh:
There's no doubt Shen is the perfect candidate.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on April 20, 2021, 10:35:58 AM
Post by: Zetsu on April 20, 2021, 10:35:58 AM
Breaded chicken...
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on April 20, 2021, 10:55:25 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 20, 2021, 10:55:25 AM
Breaded chicken...
Probably.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Odinson on April 20, 2021, 03:38:32 PM
Post by: Odinson on April 20, 2021, 03:38:32 PM
Shen Lis brain wants her to be with that decent looking guy with a good amount of money... Like a decent chinese girl.
Her tits want her to be the property of some violent biker gang.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2021, 12:27:47 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2021, 12:27:47 AM
Son... Let me tell you something about women.
Shen Lis brain wants her to be with that decent looking guy with a good amount of money... Like a decent chinese girl.
Her tits want her to be the property of some violent biker gang.
She does like men who own motorcycles.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on April 21, 2021, 02:14:30 AM
Post by: Frood on April 21, 2021, 02:14:30 AM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2021, 09:29:53 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2021, 09:29:53 AM
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Tough looking bird.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Thiel on October 27, 2021, 11:49:19 PM
Post by: Thiel on October 27, 2021, 11:49:19 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 12:03:15 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 12:03:15 AM
Taiwan's president acknowledged the presence of US troops on the island for training purposes. This is the firat time they have been on Taiwanese soil since the last official US garrison left in 1979, the year Washington switched formal diplomatic recognition from Taipei to Beijing,
In the past, threats and sabre rattling from China did not cause much worry..
That is not the case with the present ledership in China.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Bricktop on October 28, 2021, 02:22:59 AM
Post by: Bricktop on October 28, 2021, 02:22:59 AM
China's trade would disappear overnight. And they still know quite well that if the US stepped in, they are nowhere near as militarily capable as they might think.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 02:34:42 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 02:34:42 AM
The world's reaction to a Chinese assault on Taiwan would be brutal.
China's trade would disappear overnight.And they still know quite well that if the US stepped in, they are nowhere near as militarily capable as they might think.
Hmm, I don't know about that.
Chinese missile launch very concerning, says top US general
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 11:31:39 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 11:31:39 AM
Taiwan's president acknowledged the presence of US troops on the island for training purposes. This is the firat time they have been on Taiwanese soil since the last official US garrison left in 1979, the year Washington switched formal diplomatic recognition from Taipei to Beijing,
That must have the CCP seething.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on October 28, 2021, 05:10:30 PM
Post by: Frood on October 28, 2021, 05:10:30 PM
The world's reaction to a Chinese assault on Taiwan would be brutal.
China's trade would disappear overnight. And they still know quite well that if the US stepped in, they are nowhere near as militarily capable as they might think.
Or the Biden administration caves because of goods...
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Bricktop on October 28, 2021, 06:48:46 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 28, 2021, 06:48:46 PM
The world's reaction to a Chinese assault on Taiwan would be brutal.
China's trade would disappear overnight.And they still know quite well that if the US stepped in, they are nowhere near as militarily capable as they might think.
Hmm, I don't know about that.
Chinese missile launch very concerning, says top US generalhttps://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59072616
Every time an adversary tests or commissions a new weapon, our government flunkies use the media to express horror, trepidation and "look what they have" outbursts.
Yet when western militaries test fire a new weapon system, very little is said.
In "1984", Orwell highlighted the need to encapsulate society in fear of external military powers to maintain communal discipline. The "enemies" changed regularly, and their might contrasted the bravery and ingenuity of Big Brother's military. Put another way, it is the common behaviour of a military to exaggerate the potency of the enemy in order to maintain fear and large budgetary allocations.
Test firing a hypersonic missile is one thing. Deploying it as a battlefield asset is quite another. The US has both a numeric and qualitative ascendency over China. That is before the US triggers its NATO alliance, viz; "An attack on one member is an attack on all".
The more likely reality is that war between major military powers is highly unlikely simply because the cost to all involved would be staggering, win or lose. That includes China.
Like all communist states, it is strong on rhetoric, but less robust on action. I think Taiwan is safe.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 06:54:18 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 06:54:18 PM
The world's reaction to a Chinese assault on Taiwan would be brutal.
China's trade would disappear overnight.And they still know quite well that if the US stepped in, they are nowhere near as militarily capable as they might think.
Hmm, I don't know about that.
Chinese missile launch very concerning, says top US generalhttps://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59072616
Every time an adversary tests or commissions a new weapon, our government flunkies use the media to express horror, trepidation and "look what they have" outbursts.
Yet when western militaries test fire a new weapon system, very little is said.
In "1984", Orwell highlighted the need to encapsulate society in fear of external military powers to maintain communal discipline. The "enemies" changed regularly, and their might contrasted the bravery and ingenuity of Big Brother's military. Put another way, it is the common behaviour of a military to exaggerate the potency of the enemy in order to maintain fear and large budgetary allocations.
Test firing a hypersonic missile is one thing. Deploying it as a battlefield asset is quite another. The US has both a numeric and qualitative ascendency over China. That is before the US triggers its NATO alliance, viz; "An attack on one member is an attack on all".
The more likely reality is that war between major military powers is highly unlikely simply because the cost to all involved would be staggering, win or lose. That includes China.Like all communist states, it is strong on rhetoric, but less robust on action. I think Taiwan is safe.
I would've agreed with you five years ago, but so much has changed in China and the USA in that time.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Bricktop on October 28, 2021, 07:13:09 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 28, 2021, 07:13:09 PM
"We may not be able to defeat you on the battlefield, but we can destroy your cities and factories regardless. The cost of attacking us will be the end of your nation".
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 09:33:56 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 09:33:56 PM
While much has changed, the fundamentals of modern warfare remain the same.
"We may not be able to defeat you on the battlefield, but we can destroy your cities and factories regardless. The cost of attacking us will be the end of your nation".
I meant the politics have changed in China and the USA..
The current standing committe of the CCP is the most aggressive since Chairman Mao..
On the other hand, the American administration is the weakest leadership that country has ever had and has many crises at home.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Bricktop on October 28, 2021, 09:56:37 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 28, 2021, 09:56:37 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Thiel on October 28, 2021, 10:16:55 PM
Post by: Thiel on October 28, 2021, 10:16:55 PM
Leaders come and go. The military remains the same.
I noticed before COVID things were changing on business trips to China. Xi is moving China in a direction opposite of his predecessors. It's becoming more authoritarian and showing less restraint in foreign affairs.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Bricktop on October 28, 2021, 10:42:03 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 28, 2021, 10:42:03 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Thiel on October 28, 2021, 10:54:35 PM
Post by: Thiel on October 28, 2021, 10:54:35 PM
Xi is a racist. His bitch is with white people.
He wants to fight with countries that took advantage of dynastic China. And crush any domestic dissent. Even within the party itself.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Bricktop on October 29, 2021, 12:01:09 AM
Post by: Bricktop on October 29, 2021, 12:01:09 AM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2021, 12:02:31 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2021, 12:02:31 AM
Precisely. He wants vengeance against white nations.
China does seem to want to settle very old scores.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2021, 12:16:18 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2021, 12:16:18 AM
Leaders come and go. The military remains the same.
I noticed before COVID things were changing on business trips to China. Xi is moving China in a direction opposite of his predecessors. It's becoming more authoritarian and showing less restraint in foreign affairs.
He is no fan of a freer economy either like Hu Jintao or the late great Deng Xiaoping.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2021, 12:37:42 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2021, 12:37:42 AM
Precisely. He wants vengeance against white nations.
China does seem to want to settle very old scores.
But, that aint nothing new. In the past it was just talk. Now, under Xi, it is more than just talk.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2021, 06:57:33 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2021, 06:57:33 AM
Beijing has mulled invading Taiwan's Pratas Islands but will not mount an attack before the island's president Tsai Ing-wen finishes her term in 2024, a top Taiwanese security official said.
"Attacking and capturing Pratas Islands, and using war to force Taiwan into talks, this scenario in our assessment will not happen during President Tsai's tenure," Chen Ming-tong, National Security Bureau Director-General of the self-ruling island, told lawmakers on Nov. 4.
The Taiwan-controlled Pratas Islands, which lays around 190 miles southeast of Hong Kong, has been particularly vulnerable to attacks because of its proximity to mainland China, some experts have said.
"Frankly speaking, they have internally debated about it before," he said. "We of course have some awareness," Chen said.
Chen made the comments just a day after Pentagon warned about China's growing nuclear capabilities, which is on track to have a five-fold increase over the next decade.
Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, on Wednesday expressed the same opinion as Chen, saying that China is unlikely to seize Taiwan by military force in the near future, or what he defined as within a window of "6, 12, maybe 24 months."
"Having said that, though, the Chinese are clearly and unambiguously building the capability to provide those options to the national leadership, if they so choose, at some point in the future," Milley said at the Aspen Security Forum. "But anything can happen," he added.
Taiwan's defense minister has recently warned that China would be fully capable to invade Taiwan by 2025.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on November 05, 2021, 06:59:27 AM
Post by: Frood on November 05, 2021, 06:59:27 AM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2021, 07:03:20 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2021, 07:03:20 AM
China is so going to take Taiwan.... and most of the Pacific.
They want it under their thumb. They have taken effective control over all of the Spratly's. Seizing islands in the resource rich area from Vietnam and the Philippines.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2021, 07:37:22 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2021, 07:37:22 AM
Could China's stategy be to conquer islands under Taiwan's control before taking the main island of Taiwan.China Has Debated Attacking Taiwan-Controlled Islands, Top Taiwan Official Says
Beijing has mulled invading Taiwan's Pratas Islands but will not mount an attack before the island's president Tsai Ing-wen finishes her term in 2024, a top Taiwanese security official said.
"Attacking and capturing Pratas Islands, and using war to force Taiwan into talks, this scenario in our assessment will not happen during President Tsai's tenure," Chen Ming-tong, National Security Bureau Director-General of the self-ruling island, told lawmakers on Nov. 4.
The Taiwan-controlled Pratas Islands, which lays around 190 miles southeast of Hong Kong, has been particularly vulnerable to attacks because of its proximity to mainland China, some experts have said.
"Frankly speaking, they have internally debated about it before," he said. "We of course have some awareness," Chen said.
Chen made the comments just a day after Pentagon warned about China's growing nuclear capabilities, which is on track to have a five-fold increase over the next decade.
Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, on Wednesday expressed the same opinion as Chen, saying that China is unlikely to seize Taiwan by military force in the near future, or what he defined as within a window of "6, 12, maybe 24 months."
"Having said that, though, the Chinese are clearly and unambiguously building the capability to provide those options to the national leadership, if they so choose, at some point in the future," Milley said at the Aspen Security Forum. "But anything can happen," he added.
Taiwan's defense minister has recently warned that China would be fully capable to invade Taiwan by 2025.https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/china-has-debated-attacking-taiwan-controlled-islands-top-taiwan-official-says_4086851.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-11-05&mktids=9e83805539ccea2fa7171d75d04eaf44&est=C3ld0bLGT3qMiogYCnAgVtR9M2Qw7b%2FmRGEGgJR6SupDsSJyjrbN50wVY0S47cjRbw%3D%3D
I'm surprised Kinmen and Penghu islands are still part of Taiwan..
The population of both islands are very pro China.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Gaon on November 06, 2021, 01:12:37 PM
Post by: Gaon on November 06, 2021, 01:12:37 PM
Precisely. He wants vengeance against white nations.
They are taking the resources of all nations.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on November 06, 2021, 03:08:09 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 06, 2021, 03:08:09 PM
Precisely. He wants vengeance against white nations.
They are taking the resources of all nations.
China is raping Africa more than Europeans ever did.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Odinson on November 12, 2021, 04:03:41 PM
Post by: Odinson on November 12, 2021, 04:03:41 PM
They make us look like fags and the enemy is gonna come fuck us in the ass.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Odinson on November 12, 2021, 04:05:03 PM
Post by: Odinson on November 12, 2021, 04:05:03 PM
At least they are traditional.
I aint gonna fight for the LGBT rights and a womans right for abortion.
I aint gonna fight for "intersectional feminism".
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2021, 04:07:36 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2021, 04:07:36 PM
Are we better off with China or Russia at the helm?
At least they are traditional.
I aint gonna fight for the LGBT rights and a womans right for abortion.
The USSR did not have China's money.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Bricktop on November 12, 2021, 09:20:27 PM
Post by: Bricktop on November 12, 2021, 09:20:27 PM
From Western corporations and businesses who saw bigger profits at the expense of domestic employment.
As Lenin said...""The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them."
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Odinson on November 12, 2021, 09:50:23 PM
Post by: Odinson on November 12, 2021, 09:50:23 PM
But it didnt work out that way.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2021, 09:56:27 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2021, 09:56:27 PM
Diversity and tolerance dont make us look strong..
They make us look like fags and the enemy is gonna come fuck us in the ass.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C1ID9xAps4
Cartoons? A little girl raised by two moms. The once mighty US military are turning into woke fairies.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2021, 10:05:51 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2021, 10:05:51 PM
And where did China get its money?
From Western corporations and businesses who saw bigger profits at the expense of domestic employment.
As Lenin said...""The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them."
The world is returning to it's natural order with the Motherland as it's centre and most important civilization. Suck it up buttercup.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on November 12, 2021, 10:47:26 PM
Post by: Frood on November 12, 2021, 10:47:26 PM
We will take their women and breed them away from communism via strong European genetics...
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Odinson on November 12, 2021, 11:02:37 PM
Post by: Odinson on November 12, 2021, 11:02:37 PM
And where did China get its money?
From Western corporations and businesses who saw bigger profits at the expense of domestic employment.
As Lenin said...""The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them."
The world is returning to it's natural order with the Motherland as it's centre and most important civilization. Suck it up buttercup.
That civilization would have been destroyed by the Japs in the 40's.
Chinas existence is a participation prize.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on November 13, 2021, 11:18:24 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 13, 2021, 11:18:24 AM
And where did China get its money?
From Western corporations and businesses who saw bigger profits at the expense of domestic employment.
As Lenin said...""The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them."
The world is returning to it's natural order with the Motherland as it's centre and most important civilization. Suck it up buttercup.
That civilization would have been destroyed by the Japs in the 40's.
Chinas existence is a participation prize.ac_biggrin
China and Japan fought a lot of battle before World War 2..
Taiwan became part of Japan in 1895 with the signing of the Treaty of Simonoseki after Japan defeated the Ching dynasty..
The first recorded battle between the two East Asian nations was in 663.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Odinson on November 20, 2021, 09:01:18 PM
Post by: Odinson on November 20, 2021, 09:01:18 PM
Make sure that the Chinese get nothing but ashes.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on November 20, 2021, 09:02:54 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 20, 2021, 09:02:54 PM
We will fight to the last Taiwanese!
Make sure that the Chinese get nothing but ashes.
I don't know if young Taiwanese will do that.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Odinson on November 20, 2021, 09:08:17 PM
Post by: Odinson on November 20, 2021, 09:08:17 PM
We will fight to the last Taiwanese!
Make sure that the Chinese get nothing but ashes.
I don't know if young Taiwanese will do that.
Order No. 227.
Not a step back.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on November 20, 2021, 09:12:04 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 20, 2021, 09:12:04 PM
We will fight to the last Taiwanese!
Make sure that the Chinese get nothing but ashes.
I don't know if young Taiwanese will do that.
Order No. 227.
Not a step back.
Young Taiwanese are used to an easy affluent life.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Odinson on November 23, 2021, 12:19:02 PM
Post by: Odinson on November 23, 2021, 12:19:02 PM
You get a command... Wohoo!
Your ship is named after a homosexual who had an underaged lover.
As if serving in the navy doesnt have enough negative homosexual stereotypes.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on November 23, 2021, 12:22:19 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 23, 2021, 12:22:19 PM
I wonder how the captain of the USS "Harvey Milk" feels...
You get a command... Wohoo!
Your ship is named after a homosexual who had an underaged lover.As if serving in the navy doesnt have enough negative homosexual stereotypes.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Bricktop on November 23, 2021, 11:48:59 PM
Post by: Bricktop on November 23, 2021, 11:48:59 PM
I wonder how the captain of the USS "Harvey Milk" feels...
You get a command... Wohoo!
Your ship is named after a homosexual who had an underaged lover.
As if serving in the navy doesnt have enough negative homosexual stereotypes.
The madness in America finds new ways to amaze the rest of the world.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Odinson on December 03, 2021, 07:48:35 PM
Post by: Odinson on December 03, 2021, 07:48:35 PM
Better supplied, better gear, industrial military capacity.
You can put a tuxedo on a reindeer... Its still a goat.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on December 03, 2021, 07:53:41 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 03, 2021, 07:53:41 PM
Is there any real reason as to why would the Chinese military perform any better than the North-Korean military?
Better supplied, better gear, industrial military capacity.
You can put a tuxedo on a reindeer... Its still a goat.
Who are you responding to?
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Odinson on December 03, 2021, 08:40:20 PM
Post by: Odinson on December 03, 2021, 08:40:20 PM
Is there any real reason as to why would the Chinese military perform any better than the North-Korean military?
Better supplied, better gear, industrial military capacity.
You can put a tuxedo on a reindeer... Its still a goat.
Who are you responding to?
I wasnt responding to any1.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on December 03, 2021, 09:10:01 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 03, 2021, 09:10:01 PM
Is there any real reason as to why would the Chinese military perform any better than the North-Korean military?
Better supplied, better gear, industrial military capacity.
You can put a tuxedo on a reindeer... Its still a goat.
Who are you responding to?
I wasnt responding to any1.
So, you're point is that powerful militaries are ones with enough money to buy all those things you mentioned?
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Odinson on December 03, 2021, 10:49:26 PM
Post by: Odinson on December 03, 2021, 10:49:26 PM
Is there any real reason as to why would the Chinese military perform any better than the North-Korean military?
Better supplied, better gear, industrial military capacity.
You can put a tuxedo on a reindeer... Its still a goat.
Who are you responding to?
I wasnt responding to any1.
So, you're point is that powerful militaries are ones with enough money to buy all those things you mentioned?
No... Thats why I said that you can put a tuxedo on a goat and its still gonna be just a goat.
My point is that even though the Chinese have better gear and resources, they are still gonna be like the North-Korean army.
They dont have the same skills in fighting a modern war as America does.
And it makes all the difference.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on December 03, 2021, 11:10:15 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 03, 2021, 11:10:15 PM
Is there any real reason as to why would the Chinese military perform any better than the North-Korean military?
Better supplied, better gear, industrial military capacity.
You can put a tuxedo on a reindeer... Its still a goat.
Who are you responding to?
I wasnt responding to any1.
So, you're point is that powerful militaries are ones with enough money to buy all those things you mentioned?
No... Thats why I said that you can put a tuxedo on a goat and its still gonna be just a goat.ac_biggrin
My point is that even though the Chinese have better gear and resources, they are still gonna be like the North-Korean army.
They dont have the same skills in fighting a modern war as America does.
And it makes all the difference.
Are you sure about that. I read in some areas they are on par. In e-warfare they are ahead of the States.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on December 04, 2021, 12:05:45 AM
Post by: Zetsu on December 04, 2021, 12:05:45 AM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on December 04, 2021, 12:15:05 AM
Post by: Zetsu on December 04, 2021, 12:15:05 AM
Who are you responding to?
I wasnt responding to any1.
So, you're point is that powerful militaries are ones with enough money to buy all those things you mentioned?
No... Thats why I said that you can put a tuxedo on a goat and its still gonna be just a goat.ac_biggrin
My point is that even though the Chinese have better gear and resources, they are still gonna be like the North-Korean army.
They dont have the same skills in fighting a modern war as America does.
And it makes all the difference.
Are you sure about that. I read in some areas they are on par. In e-warfare they are ahead of the States.
Even if we take both side's cards out of the equation, China is at a disadvantage when it comes to geography. Problem is most of China's major cities are along the coastline. If the US just fire just 1 or 2 missiles to the city centre to cause massive panic and most likely cripple their economy while it'll take a while before armed forces can arrive since most of their military complex are based inland.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on December 04, 2021, 12:15:35 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 04, 2021, 12:15:35 AM
If we look back at Chinese history, sometimes China can be very strong during the rise or first 100ish years of a new dynasty, strong when they're supposed to be weak and under developed, weak when they're developed but very corrupted and gets defeated by nomads less than 1% of their population.
The CCP dynasty is only 72 years old. They haven't reached the period of corruption and lack of focus that ended every other dynasty(yet).
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on December 04, 2021, 12:25:16 AM
Post by: Zetsu on December 04, 2021, 12:25:16 AM
If we look back at Chinese history, sometimes China can be very strong during the rise or first 100ish years of a new dynasty, strong when they're supposed to be weak and under developed, weak when they're developed but very corrupted and gets defeated by nomads less than 1% of their population.
The CCP dynasty is only 72 years old. They haven't reached the period of corruption and lack of focus that ended every other dynasty(yet).
There's no doubt that there's no developing country that is moving ahead faster than China, China knows it's not a good idea to offend the US and is smart enough to not fight against them head on, at least for now and seems like they will buy as much time as possible while learning from the mistakes of others including their own...
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on December 04, 2021, 12:29:16 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 04, 2021, 12:29:16 AM
If we look back at Chinese history, sometimes China can be very strong during the rise or first 100ish years of a new dynasty, strong when they're supposed to be weak and under developed, weak when they're developed but very corrupted and gets defeated by nomads less than 1% of their population.
The CCP dynasty is only 72 years old. They haven't reached the period of corruption and lack of focus that ended every other dynasty(yet).
There's no doubt that there's no developing country that is moving ahead faster than China, China knows it's not a good idea to offend the US and is smart enough to not fight against them head on, at least for now and seems like they will buy as much time as possible while learning from others including their own mistakes.
They are getting a hell of a lot cockier under Xi.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on December 04, 2021, 12:31:31 AM
Post by: Zetsu on December 04, 2021, 12:31:31 AM
If we look back at Chinese history, sometimes China can be very strong during the rise or first 100ish years of a new dynasty, strong when they're supposed to be weak and under developed, weak when they're developed but very corrupted and gets defeated by nomads less than 1% of their population.
The CCP dynasty is only 72 years old. They haven't reached the period of corruption and lack of focus that ended every other dynasty(yet).
There's no doubt that there's no developing country that is moving ahead faster than China, China knows it's not a good idea to offend the US and is smart enough to not fight against them head on, at least for now and seems like they will buy as much time as possible while learning from others including their own mistakes.
They are getting a hell of a lot cockier under Xi.
Lol I hope they do and let their guard down.
It seems like war is the only solution and the only way to find out.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on December 04, 2021, 12:36:23 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 04, 2021, 12:36:23 AM
If we look back at Chinese history, sometimes China can be very strong during the rise or first 100ish years of a new dynasty, strong when they're supposed to be weak and under developed, weak when they're developed but very corrupted and gets defeated by nomads less than 1% of their population.
The CCP dynasty is only 72 years old. They haven't reached the period of corruption and lack of focus that ended every other dynasty(yet).
There's no doubt that there's no developing country that is moving ahead faster than China, China knows it's not a good idea to offend the US and is smart enough to not fight against them head on, at least for now and seems like they will buy as much time as possible while learning from others including their own mistakes.
They are getting a hell of a lot cockier under Xi.
Lol I hope they do and let their guard down.:laugh:
It seems like war is the only solution and the only way to find out.ac_unsure
Direct confrontation will come eventually. The big question is if India gets involved.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Bricktop on December 04, 2021, 01:39:23 AM
Post by: Bricktop on December 04, 2021, 01:39:23 AM
It's nowhere close.
Western media is constantly telling us how powerful China's military is, and how advanced their weapons are, and most of it is hype and nonsense. The Chinese military equipment is not on the same level as the western equipment from a qualitative viewpoint. US aircraft are generations ahead of Chinese J20's, the US aircraft carriers outnumber Chinese Soviet era tugboats, and the US nuclear deterrence is years ahead of China's.
Additionally, the US and European military has been battle tested, particularly their air power. China has no equivalent to the B52's, B2's, F22's and F35's or the European Typhoon.
The US Navy is far more powerful than China's, although most of Europe lags behind in naval power.
US surveillance resources have been developed since the 1960's and their ability to target China's main command centres is unrivalled.
And China, for all it's chestbeating and growling, is fully aware that they will be outmatched. If they were feeling froggy, their only hope would be a lack of American and European resolve, but that would be a grave mistake. Despite dottering and flaccid politicians, the military of the west still remains strong and ready.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Zetsu on December 04, 2021, 10:25:15 AM
Post by: Zetsu on December 04, 2021, 10:25:15 AM
Everybody seems to believe that the Chinese military is on a par with the US and Europe.
It's nowhere close.
Western media is constantly telling us how powerful China's military is, and how advanced their weapons are, and most of it is hype and nonsense. The Chinese military equipment is not on the same level as the western equipment from a qualitative viewpoint. US aircraft are generations ahead of Chinese J20's, the US aircraft carriers outnumber Chinese Soviet era tugboats, and the US nuclear deterrence is years ahead of China's.
Additionally, the US and European military has been battle tested, particularly their air power. China has no equivalent to the B52's, B2's, F22's and F35's or the European Typhoon.
The US Navy is far more powerful than China's, although most of Europe lags behind in naval power.
US surveillance resources have been developed since the 1960's and their ability to target China's main command centres is unrivalled.
And China, for all it's chestbeating and growling, is fully aware that they will be outmatched. If they were feeling froggy, their only hope would be a lack of American and European resolve, but that would be a grave mistake. Despite dottering and flaccid politicians, the military of the west still remains strong and ready.
There's no doubt China and her military will be utterly demolished by Western powers again if they pull another boxer rebellion like act, but the question is the US and Europe willing to withstand some losses, considering there's a good chance China will not follow the rule book and use nukes.
And like Herman has mentioned, if India comes into battle, it is well known that China has always feared Indian soldiers during ancient times for their ferocity and physical advantage of being a head taller than China or any Oriental ppl.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on December 04, 2021, 10:35:21 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 04, 2021, 10:35:21 AM
Everybody seems to believe that the Chinese military is on a par with the US and Europe.
It's nowhere close.
Western media is constantly telling us how powerful China's military is, and how advanced their weapons are, and most of it is hype and nonsense. The Chinese military equipment is not on the same level as the western equipment from a qualitative viewpoint. US aircraft are generations ahead of Chinese J20's, the US aircraft carriers outnumber Chinese Soviet era tugboats, and the US nuclear deterrence is years ahead of China's.
Additionally, the US and European military has been battle tested, particularly their air power. China has no equivalent to the B52's, B2's, F22's and F35's or the European Typhoon.
The US Navy is far more powerful than China's, although most of Europe lags behind in naval power.
US surveillance resources have been developed since the 1960's and their ability to target China's main command centres is unrivalled.
And China, for all it's chestbeating and growling, is fully aware that they will be outmatched. If they were feeling froggy, their only hope would be a lack of American and European resolve, but that would be a grave mistake. Despite dottering and flaccid politicians, the military of the west still remains strong and ready.
There's no doubt China and her military will be utterly demolished by Western powers again if they pull another boxer rebellion like act, but the question is the US and Europe willing to withstand some losses, considering there's a good chance China will not follow the rule book and use nukes.
And like Herman has mentioned, if India comes into battle, it is well known that China has always feared Indian soldiers during ancient times for their ferocity and physical advantage of being a head taller than China or any Oriental ppl.
The leadership of the CCP is not the inept waning days of the Ching dynasty. There will be no repeat of the Boxer Rebellion.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on December 05, 2021, 03:38:51 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 05, 2021, 03:38:51 PM
Everybody seems to believe that the Chinese military is on a par with the US and Europe.
It's nowhere close.
Western media is constantly telling us how powerful China's military is, and how advanced their weapons are, and most of it is hype and nonsense. The Chinese military equipment is not on the same level as the western equipment from a qualitative viewpoint. US aircraft are generations ahead of Chinese J20's, the US aircraft carriers outnumber Chinese Soviet era tugboats, and the US nuclear deterrence is years ahead of China's.
Additionally, the US and European military has been battle tested, particularly their air power. China has no equivalent to the B52's, B2's, F22's and F35's or the European Typhoon.
The US Navy is far more powerful than China's, although most of Europe lags behind in naval power.
US surveillance resources have been developed since the 1960's and their ability to target China's main command centres is unrivalled.
And China, for all it's chestbeating and growling, is fully aware that they will be outmatched. If they were feeling froggy, their only hope would be a lack of American and European resolve, but that would be a grave mistake. Despite dottering and flaccid politicians, the military of the west still remains strong and ready.
There's no doubt China and her military will be utterly demolished by Western powers again if they pull another boxer rebellion like act, but the question is the US and Europe willing to withstand some losses, considering there's a good chance China will not follow the rule book and use nukes.
And like Herman has mentioned, if India comes into battle, it is well known that China has always feared Indian soldiers during ancient times for their ferocity and physical advantage of being a head taller than China or any Oriental ppl.
The leadership of the CCP is not the inept waning days of the Ching dynasty. There will be no repeat of the Boxer Rebellion.
I don't know......history repeats itselfm], especially in China.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on December 10, 2021, 12:04:44 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 10, 2021, 12:04:44 AM
The Nicaraguan announcement now leaves a little more than a dozen countries that maintain official diplomatic relations with self-ruled Taiwan, including fellow Central American nations Honduras and Guatemala.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on December 10, 2021, 10:51:10 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 10, 2021, 10:51:10 AM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on February 03, 2022, 08:57:19 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 03, 2022, 08:57:19 PM
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A bipartisan group of U.S. lawmakers proposed matching bills in the Senate and House of Representatives on Thursday that would require the United States to negotiate the renaming of Taiwan's de facto embassy in Washington as the "Taiwan Representative Office," a move certain to rankle China.
It is currently called the Taipei Economic and Cultural Representative Office (TECRO), using the name of the island's capital city.
Should the measures become law, any change in the office's name could provide cover to smaller countries to take similar steps to boost engagement with Taiwan, which China claims as its own territory.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on February 03, 2022, 11:52:38 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 03, 2022, 11:52:38 PM
Do eet.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A bipartisan group of U.S. lawmakers proposed matching bills in the Senate and House of Representatives on Thursday that would require the United States to negotiate the renaming of Taiwan's de facto embassy in Washington as the "Taiwan Representative Office," a move certain to rankle China.
It is currently called the Taipei Economic and Cultural Representative Office (TECRO), using the name of the island's capital city.
Should the measures become law, any change in the office's name could provide cover to smaller countries to take similar steps to boost engagement with Taiwan, which China claims as its own territory.
I don't think it will happen.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on February 04, 2022, 11:36:12 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 04, 2022, 11:36:12 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on February 05, 2022, 07:56:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 05, 2022, 07:56:00 PM
China and Russia, at a meeting of their leaders hours before the Winter Olympics officially opened, backed each other over standoffs on Ukraine and Taiwan with a promise to collaborate more against the West.
:negative:
Their 'no limits' partnership is a strategic marriage of convenience.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Gaon on February 05, 2022, 10:44:42 PM
Post by: Gaon on February 05, 2022, 10:44:42 PM
China and Russia, at a meeting of their leaders hours before the Winter Olympics officially opened, backed each other over standoffs on Ukraine and Taiwan with a promise to collaborate more against the West.
:negative:
Their 'no limits' partnership is a strategic marriage of convenience.
Russia really needs an ally. China is a good one to have.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on February 05, 2022, 11:07:57 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 05, 2022, 11:07:57 PM
China and Russia, at a meeting of their leaders hours before the Winter Olympics officially opened, backed each other over standoffs on Ukraine and Taiwan with a promise to collaborate more against the West.
:negative:
Their 'no limits' partnership is a strategic marriage of convenience.
Russia really needs an ally. China is a good one to have.
Russia has never been sympathetic to Taiwan's situation.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on February 25, 2022, 10:48:56 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 25, 2022, 10:48:56 AM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Oliver Clotheshoffe on February 25, 2022, 12:46:50 PM
Post by: Oliver Clotheshoffe on February 25, 2022, 12:46:50 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on February 25, 2022, 03:39:42 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 25, 2022, 03:39:42 PM
This is the perfect time for China to invade with the mess going on in Ukraine. Xi figures if Putin can get away with it then so can he.
Biden is the best president China and Russia have ever had.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on February 26, 2022, 01:57:56 PM
Post by: Frood on February 26, 2022, 01:57:56 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2022, 02:04:22 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2022, 02:04:22 PM
This is the perfect time for China to invade with the mess going on in Ukraine. Xi figures if Putin can get away with it then so can he.
We know.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on February 26, 2022, 02:12:46 PM
Post by: Frood on February 26, 2022, 02:12:46 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Odinson on February 27, 2022, 04:47:35 AM
Post by: Odinson on February 27, 2022, 04:47:35 AM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2022, 07:56:20 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2022, 07:56:20 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Thiel on February 27, 2022, 09:23:09 PM
Post by: Thiel on February 27, 2022, 09:23:09 PM
This is the perfect time for China to invade with the mess going on in Ukraine. Xi figures if Putin can get away with it then so can he.
That is a distinct possibility. In fact, I read China was conducting military drills inside Taiwan's airways.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Bricktop on February 27, 2022, 10:26:26 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 27, 2022, 10:26:26 PM
NATO made it clear that it would not consider any military response as Ukraine is not a member.
The US has made it clear to China that it will respond if it attacked Taiwan.
And despite what we are fed by headline hungry media, the US is still a VERY powerful nation.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Thiel on February 27, 2022, 10:33:54 PM
Post by: Thiel on February 27, 2022, 10:33:54 PM
It would be erroneous to draw a parallel between Ukraine and Taiwan.
NATO made it clear that it would not consider any military response as Ukraine is not a member.
The US has made it clear to China that it will respond if it attacked Taiwan.
And despite what we are fed by headline hungry media, the US is still a VERY powerful nation.
But, the United States has a very weak leader. Washington has the Taiwan Relations Act that forces the United States to give aid to Taiwan if it's attacked. But, I expect a tepid response from this administration in that scenario.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Bricktop on February 28, 2022, 02:49:32 AM
Post by: Bricktop on February 28, 2022, 02:49:32 AM
They will strongly support standing up against China.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on March 03, 2022, 09:09:22 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 03, 2022, 09:09:22 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: cc on March 03, 2022, 09:15:03 PM
Post by: cc on March 03, 2022, 09:15:03 PM
But, the United States has a very weak leader. Washington has the Taiwan Relations Act that forces the United States to give aid to Taiwan if it's attacked. But, I expect a tepid response from this administration in that scenario.
His weakness may be what's showing everywhere as no one is afraid of him
I am glad that the EU has seen the light and toughing up as they were when Trump made them do their part .. that slacked off a lot since Biden came in .. but this current war has really perked them up to be a power
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on March 03, 2022, 10:38:19 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 03, 2022, 10:38:19 PM
But, the United States has a very weak leader. Washington has the Taiwan Relations Act that forces the United States to give aid to Taiwan if it's attacked. But, I expect a tepid response from this administration in that scenario.
His weakness may be what's showing everywhere as no one is afraid of him
I am glad that the EU has seen the light and toughing up as they were when Trump made them do their part .. that slacked off a lot since Biden came in .. but this current war has really perked them up to be a power
Europe has been getting a free ride. Trump reminded them they can't expect to freeload off of American taxpayers indefinitely. Same shit applies to the Japanese and South Koreans.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on May 28, 2022, 08:40:17 PM
Post by: Anonymous on May 28, 2022, 08:40:17 PM
The Times reported that the video containing the meeting's conversation, along with English translations of what is being discussed, "appears authentic."
Reportedly, "allies" within the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and the PLA recorded the audio. There is now an ongoing manhunt to uncover the source of the leak.
According to the audio, during the operation against Taiwan the Chinese military will have to safeguard the Pearl River Delta area in the Guangdong province. The Guangdong province is a densely populated part of China and home to much of China's domestic industry.
The leaked audio also confirmed that companies involved in the manufacture of military technologies, telecommunication companies, and satellite service companies located in China will all play a crucial role in supplying the PLA throughout the invasion of Taiwan. Many of America's largest defense contractors have extensive ties to the PLA and CCP.
The leaked audio confirms that the meeting was held to discuss pre-war preparation and that the meeting was held to discuss orderly transition from peace time to war and to discuss military mobilization and planning.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on May 29, 2022, 01:34:08 AM
Post by: Frood on May 29, 2022, 01:34:08 AM
It would be erroneous to draw a parallel between Ukraine and Taiwan.
NATO made it clear that it would not consider any military response as Ukraine is not a member.
The US has made it clear to China that it will respond if it attacked Taiwan.
And despite what we are fed by headline hungry media, the US is still a VERY powerful nation.
The US has run its stockpiles of weaponry and components ragged, and their nuclear capabilities are largely antiquated.
No hypersonic or MRV's in production and they're still hung up about MAD doctrine. No public shelters to speak of either.
It's a bit of a banana republic....
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on May 29, 2022, 07:50:35 AM
Post by: Anonymous on May 29, 2022, 07:50:35 AM
The Times of India reported that an audio clip revealing dialogue between officials from China's military, the People's Liberation Army (PLA), surfaced on YouTube marking the first time since the formation of the People's Republic of China in 1949 that a recording of a top-secret meeting of China's military command has leaked.
The Times reported that the video containing the meeting's conversation, along with English translations of what is being discussed, "appears authentic."
Reportedly, "allies" within the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and the PLA recorded the audio. There is now an ongoing manhunt to uncover the source of the leak.
According to the audio, during the operation against Taiwan the Chinese military will have to safeguard the Pearl River Delta area in the Guangdong province. The Guangdong province is a densely populated part of China and home to much of China's domestic industry.
The leaked audio also confirmed that companies involved in the manufacture of military technologies, telecommunication companies, and satellite service companies located in China will all play a crucial role in supplying the PLA throughout the invasion of Taiwan. Many of America's largest defense contractors have extensive ties to the PLA and CCP.
The leaked audio confirms that the meeting was held to discuss pre-war preparation and that the meeting was held to discuss orderly transition from peace time to war and to discuss military mobilization and planning.https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=153&v=FHZ-49Qhdl4&feature=emb_logo
I can't believe this is the first time they have ever discussed returning Taiwan to the 'Motherland.'
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Rancidmilko on May 31, 2022, 11:47:48 AM
Post by: Rancidmilko on May 31, 2022, 11:47:48 AM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on May 31, 2022, 11:56:09 AM
Post by: Anonymous on May 31, 2022, 11:56:09 AM
I wonder what people of Taiwan think of Biden and his administration instigating a war between Taiwan and China.
Let's just say, Taiwanese trusted the administration of Donald Trump to prevent war with China, more than the gaffe prone and incompetent looking administration of Joe Biden......he makes the political class in Taiwan nervous.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on May 31, 2022, 04:13:20 PM
Post by: Anonymous on May 31, 2022, 04:13:20 PM
I wonder what people of Taiwan think of Biden and his administration instigating a war between Taiwan and China.
Let's just say, Taiwanese trusted the administration of Donald Trump to prevent war with China, more than the gaffe prone and incompetent looking administration of Joe Biden......he makes the political class in Taiwan nervous.
China sent thirty warplanes into Taiwan air defence zone.
There is nothing strategic about the way the Biden Administration operates. Biden brings uncertainty to the Taiwan Straits issue. The White House has had to walk back his comments more than once. For someone who campaigned on his foreign policy experience, he looks like he doesn't know what he's doing. And that is dangerous.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on June 11, 2022, 10:25:57 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 11, 2022, 10:25:57 PM
"If anyone dares to split Taiwan from China, the Chinese army will definitely not hesitate to start a war no matter the cost," warned China's defense spokesman Wu Qian – who was quoting General Wei.
The saber-rattling continued as the Chinese defense minister declared that Beijing would "smash to smithereens" any effort to maintain Taiwan's independence. The ministry vowed that Taiwan would be made part of China for the "unification of the motherland."
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Gaon on June 11, 2022, 10:40:54 PM
Post by: Gaon on June 11, 2022, 10:40:54 PM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on June 12, 2022, 07:41:10 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 12, 2022, 07:41:10 AM
China's defense minister threatened all-out war while discussing Taiwan's independence during a meeting between top Chinese and American military officials. The threats were made on Friday during the first face-to-face meeting of U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and Chinese Defense Minister General Wei Fenghe.
"If anyone dares to split Taiwan from China, the Chinese army will definitely not hesitate to start a war no matter the cost," warned China's defense spokesman Wu Qian – who was quoting General Wei.
The saber-rattling continued as the Chinese defense minister declared that Beijing would "smash to smithereens" any effort to maintain Taiwan's independence. The ministry vowed that Taiwan would be made part of China for the "unification of the motherland."
That could be the same nationalistic rhetoric China has been spewing for over seven decades.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Odinson on June 12, 2022, 09:32:10 AM
Post by: Odinson on June 12, 2022, 09:32:10 AM
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Frood on June 12, 2022, 11:54:48 AM
Post by: Frood on June 12, 2022, 11:54:48 AM
Taiwan is too strong for China.
A good portion of their scheduled armament deliveries got scuttled so that Ukraine had shit to be precision striked, abandoned, or sold on the dark Web.
Taiwan will fall and the West will abandon the entire region.... including us here in Australia.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on June 13, 2022, 06:37:32 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 13, 2022, 06:37:32 AM
Taiwan is too strong for China.
A good portion of their scheduled armament deliveries got scuttled so that Ukraine had shit to be precision striked, abandoned, or sold on the dark Web.
Taiwan will fall and the West will abandon the entire region.... including us here in Australia.
Was there supposed to be a recent acquisition by Taiwan?
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Odinson on June 16, 2022, 07:50:45 PM
Post by: Odinson on June 16, 2022, 07:50:45 PM
But getting hit by trucks seems to be a favorite national pastime around there.
They are very tough... And feel no pain.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2022, 07:54:44 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2022, 07:54:44 PM
I´ve always thought that the Chinese are wimps...
But getting hit by trucks seems to be a favorite national pastime around there.
They are very tough... And feel no pain.
They feel pain.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Odinson on June 16, 2022, 08:06:59 PM
Post by: Odinson on June 16, 2022, 08:06:59 PM
I´ve always thought that the Chinese are wimps...
But getting hit by trucks seems to be a favorite national pastime around there.
They are very tough... And feel no pain.
They feel pain.
They are like lobsters.
And they feel no fear either.
The incoming cement-truck 10 meters away doesnt worry them.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2022, 08:10:18 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2022, 08:10:18 PM
They feel pain.
They are like lobsters.
And they feel no fear either.
The incoming cement-truck 10 meters away doesnt worry them.
Have you ever met someone from China.....it doesn't seem like you have.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Odinson on June 16, 2022, 08:41:24 PM
Post by: Odinson on June 16, 2022, 08:41:24 PM
They are like lobsters.
And they feel no fear either.
The incoming cement-truck 10 meters away doesnt worry them.
Have you ever met someone from China.....it doesn't seem like you have.
Have you ever met someone from China?
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2022, 09:01:42 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2022, 09:01:42 PM
Have you ever met someone from China.....it doesn't seem like you have.
Have you ever met someone from China?
No, I haven't.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Anonymous on September 10, 2022, 08:34:19 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 10, 2022, 08:34:19 PM
Reuters reports that the therapists "were accused of publishing three picture books, featuring cartoons of sheep and wolves, which government prosecutors alleged had spread separatism and stirred up hatred and opposition to the government."
In one book, according to Reuters, wolves want to occupy a village and eat the sheep, who in turn start to fight back.
The books referenced actual events, including Hong Kong's pro-democracy protests in 2019 and the pro-democracy protesters who fled Hong Kong by speedboat in 2020 and were captured by Chinese authorities.
The books referenced actual events, including Hong Kong's pro-democracy protests in 2019 and the pro-democracy protesters who fled Hong Kong by speedboat in 2020 and were captured by Chinese authorities.
"What the defendants have done to the children aged 4 and above was in fact a brain-washing exercise with a view to guiding the very young children to accept their views and values," wrote the judge who convicted the therapists. The judge added, "Children will be led into the belief that the [People's Republic of China] Government is coming to Hong Kong with the wicked intention of taking away their home and ruining their happy life with no right to do so at all."
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Oerdin on November 12, 2023, 10:03:26 AM
Post by: Oerdin on November 12, 2023, 10:03:26 AM
A good look at communist China's military goals in Latin America.
https://youtu.be/o0EpDQ2elzA?si=6kZjZtV9IYUJJo-p
https://youtu.be/o0EpDQ2elzA?si=6kZjZtV9IYUJJo-p
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: DKG on November 12, 2023, 11:10:15 AM
Post by: DKG on November 12, 2023, 11:10:15 AM
Quote from: Oerdin on November 12, 2023, 10:03:26 AMA good look at communist China's military goals in Latin America.I wouldn't be surprised if they have their talons on South America. China practically owns Africa.
https://youtu.be/o0EpDQ2elzA?si=6kZjZtV9IYUJJo-p
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Oerdin on November 12, 2023, 11:49:13 AM
Post by: Oerdin on November 12, 2023, 11:49:13 AM
I have posted two videos on communist China in Latin America.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: DKG on November 12, 2023, 11:53:32 AM
Post by: DKG on November 12, 2023, 11:53:32 AM
Quote from: Oerdin on November 12, 2023, 11:49:13 AMI have posted two videos on communist China in Latin America.I didn't see the other one, sorry.
Title: Re: China and Taiwan at war soon?
Post by: Oerdin on November 12, 2023, 12:49:28 PM
Post by: Oerdin on November 12, 2023, 12:49:28 PM
Here is one about Venezuela and how communist China is using it as a colony to manufacture synthetic drugs.
https://youtu.be/-DY6TVXnMXo?si=0Po5LL6SGANV-3wH
The one I was talking about how Communist China is preparing for war with the U.S. by building the infrastructure it needs for forward military deployment in Latin America. They have long been doing this in the South Pacific to cut Australia and New Zealand off from North America in the event of war. It also talks directly about how Russia and Iran work with communist China on this as well as how China uses Iran to do it's dirty work while still giving Communist China plausible deniability.
https://youtu.be/KiKgsFtDkWY?si=KaZJj4clbrxmLH02
For example the recent attempted Hamas terrorist attack in Brazil sponsored by Iran. Also notice how Iran worked with CCP direct support to cross the Indian and Pacific oceans as well as to enter the southern Atlantic to dock in Brazil just before the Hamas terrorist plot.
https://youtu.be/-DY6TVXnMXo?si=0Po5LL6SGANV-3wH
The one I was talking about how Communist China is preparing for war with the U.S. by building the infrastructure it needs for forward military deployment in Latin America. They have long been doing this in the South Pacific to cut Australia and New Zealand off from North America in the event of war. It also talks directly about how Russia and Iran work with communist China on this as well as how China uses Iran to do it's dirty work while still giving Communist China plausible deniability.
https://youtu.be/KiKgsFtDkWY?si=KaZJj4clbrxmLH02
For example the recent attempted Hamas terrorist attack in Brazil sponsored by Iran. Also notice how Iran worked with CCP direct support to cross the Indian and Pacific oceans as well as to enter the southern Atlantic to dock in Brazil just before the Hamas terrorist plot.