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Title: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 21, 2013, 12:51:10 AM
My daughter was on the skytrain tonight coming home when a woman collapsed and had a seizure.  My daughter was the first and only one to step forward and help her. She turned her on her side and protected her head. Another woman rang the emergency cord and called for help while everyone else just stood there not knowing what to do. My kid stayed with her and talked to her as she came out of it and waited till the ambulance attendance got to her.  I'm so proud of her! Who says a "special needs" person can't be helpful? I say Ha! In your face! to all the people who ever said she would never amount to anything  :lol:
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 21, 2013, 12:56:15 AM
Quote from: "Annie"My daughter was on the skytrain tonight coming home when a woman collapsed and had a seizure.  My daughter was the first and only one to step forward and help her. She turned her on her side and protected her head. Another woman rang the emergency cord and called for help while everyone else just stood there not knowing what to do. My kid stayed with her and talked to her as she came out of it and waited till the ambulance attendance got to her.  I'm so proud of her! Who says a "special needs" person can't be helpful? I say Ha! In your face! to all the people who ever said she would never amount to anything  :lol:

That is fucking awesome Annie. You raised your daughter right and your daughter paid attention in her first aid class. Too bad the other people on the LRT didn't.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 21, 2013, 01:01:17 AM
She hasn't taken any first aid classes though, she just knew what to do.  We have an epileptic in our family and she saw me taking care of him years ago when he would have grand mals.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 21, 2013, 01:05:43 AM
Quote from: "Annie"She hasn't taken any first aid classes though, she just knew what to do.  We have an epileptic in our family and she saw me taking care of him years ago when he would have grand mals.

Good for her for paying attention to what you were doing. I wonder how able-bodied people felt watching a special needs person administering first aid while they watched. :?
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 21, 2013, 01:06:07 AM
Oh she did take an animal first aid course because she volunteers at the SPCA but that's a little different LoL
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 21, 2013, 01:07:08 AM
Quote from: "Annie"Oh she did take an animal first aid course because she volunteers at the SPCA but that's a little different LoL

Yeah, I would think it is very different Annie.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Obvious Li on November 21, 2013, 02:47:06 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Annie"Oh she did take an animal first aid course because she volunteers at the SPCA but that's a little different LoL

Yeah, I would think it is very different Annie.


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not if you ride the skytrain in vancouver
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 21, 2013, 03:56:08 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Annie"She hasn't taken any first aid classes though, she just knew what to do.  We have an epileptic in our family and she saw me taking care of him years ago when he would have grand mals.

Good for her for paying attention to what you were doing. I wonder how able-bodied people felt watching a special needs person administering first aid while they watched. :?




She said there were a bunch of people on the train, I'm guessing they just didn't know what to do.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: jaysings on November 21, 2013, 05:35:43 AM
Quote from: "Annie"My daughter was on the skytrain tonight coming home when a woman collapsed and had a seizure.  My daughter was the first and only one to step forward and help her. She turned her on her side and protected her head. Another woman rang the emergency cord and called for help while everyone else just stood there not knowing what to do. My kid stayed with her and talked to her as she came out of it and waited till the ambulance attendance got to her.  I'm so proud of her! Who says a "special needs" person can't be helpful? I say Ha! In your face! to all the people who ever said she would never amount to anything  :lol:


this passage reminds me of a novel "1984" in which Mr. Parsons feels proud of his daughter who has reported a guy to Thought Police and has denounced her father too after Parson talked something heretical in dream :lol:
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 21, 2013, 07:16:00 AM
sound good, what book?
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 21, 2013, 08:59:07 AM
Quote from: "Annie"My daughter was on the skytrain tonight coming home when a woman collapsed and had a seizure.  My daughter was the first and only one to step forward and help her. She turned her on her side and protected her head. Another woman rang the emergency cord and called for help while everyone else just stood there not knowing what to do. My kid stayed with her and talked to her as she came out of it and waited till the ambulance attendance got to her.  I'm so proud of her! Who says a "special needs" person can't be helpful? I say Ha! In your face! to all the people who ever said she would never amount to anything  :lol:

Oh Ms. Annie, you should be so proud of your daughter..



She is an unsung hero.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 21, 2013, 11:00:26 AM
Quote from: "Annie"sound good, what book?

Jay means the novel "1984" written by George Orwell.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Romero on November 21, 2013, 01:15:17 PM
Quote from: "Annie"My daughter was on the skytrain tonight coming home when a woman collapsed and had a seizure.  My daughter was the first and only one to step forward and help her. She turned her on her side and protected her head. Another woman rang the emergency cord and called for help while everyone else just stood there not knowing what to do. My kid stayed with her and talked to her as she came out of it and waited till the ambulance attendance got to her.  I'm so proud of her! Who says a "special needs" person can't be helpful? I say Ha! In your face! to all the people who ever said she would never amount to anything  :lol:

Great kid you've got there, Annie! She must have great parents!
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Renee on November 21, 2013, 01:18:44 PM
Quote from: "Annie"My daughter was on the skytrain tonight coming home when a woman collapsed and had a seizure.  My daughter was the first and only one to step forward and help her. She turned her on her side and protected her head. Another woman rang the emergency cord and called for help while everyone else just stood there not knowing what to do. My kid stayed with her and talked to her as she came out of it and waited till the ambulance attendance got to her.  I'm so proud of her! Who says a "special needs" person can't be helpful? I say Ha! In your face! to all the people who ever said she would never amount to anything  :lol:


Congrats on raising a damn fine kid Annie.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: keeper on November 21, 2013, 01:38:34 PM
First I want to say RIGHT ON Annie that it wonderful and happy your Daughter is an amazing person.

Now I want to explain why I would not lift a hand to help the lady, little bit of a different situation but......



Back when I was around 20ish me and my best friend were going to the local lake fishing, we were driving on the HI way when a GMC 1/2 ton truck cuts across both lanes, cuts us off, down the ditch and up a small hill crashing hard....there was steam and smoke and shit all over the place.

My friend (who was driving) pulls off the road and drives right to the accident. I jump out go to the passenger side and there are 2 Natives drunk as fuck, The driver is cross legged under the steering wheel and bleeding severely, like Gushing, I could see his skull, his scalp was flipped over about 4inches. The passenger was asking me to hide the booze and not call the cops. I just sat there watching, I guess in shock. My Friend and a women(who had tampon pads in her purse) were trying to stop the bleeding, pulled the guy OUT of the truck and put him on the ground, not knowing if he had a back injury or whatever, everyone theres saying don't , don't stop moving him, but they didn't listen.



The Guy died, right there on the spot, The passenger and his family sued both the lady and my best friend. It was thrown out of court because of the drinking.



So, Helping doesn't always benefit everyone, You might think your doing the right thing but are you safe to do so? My Best friend said he would do it again if it meant saving there life.



Oh he was pretty messed up about the guy dying in his hands.



That's my story.

oh and

OBI

FUCK OFF -- ROfl
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 21, 2013, 04:17:56 PM
^^Keeps, Odinstain is gone until next week. Enjoy the peace while you can.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: jaysings on November 21, 2013, 04:28:15 PM
Quote from: "Annie"sound good, what book?

"1984" written by george orwell
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: jaysings on November 21, 2013, 04:30:07 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Annie"sound good, what book?

Jay means the novel "1984" written by George Orwell.


yes,right. have u read this book? so classic. exactly projects an image of north korea nowadays
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 21, 2013, 04:34:44 PM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Annie"sound good, what book?

Jay means the novel "1984" written by George Orwell.


yes,right. have u read this book? so classic. exactly projects an image of north korea nowadays

Yeah, I read it Jay. Quite some time ago though.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: jaysings on November 21, 2013, 04:42:11 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Jay means the novel "1984" written by George Orwell.


yes,right. have u read this book? so classic. exactly projects an image of north korea nowadays

Yeah, I read it Jay. Quite some time ago though.


children are the shadow of their parents. they take after some of personalities of their parents. so I presume that Ms. Anne must be a woman with full of love for people and pets
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 21, 2013, 04:57:39 PM
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"


yes,right. have u read this book? so classic. exactly projects an image of north korea nowadays

Yeah, I read it Jay. Quite some time ago though.


children are the shadow of their parents. they take after some of personalities of their parents. so I presume that Ms. Anne must be a woman with full of love for people and pets

Yes, I believe our Annie has those qualities Jay. However, not all kids are a chip off the old block.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 21, 2013, 06:06:18 PM
Quote from: "Keeper"First I want to say RIGHT ON Annie that it wonderful and happy your Daughter is an amazing person.

Now I want to explain why I would not lift a hand to help the lady, little bit of a different situation but......



Back when I was around 20ish me and my best friend were going to the local lake fishing, we were driving on the HI way when a GMC 1/2 ton truck cuts across both lanes, cuts us off, down the ditch and up a small hill crashing hard....there was steam and smoke and shit all over the place.

My friend (who was driving) pulls off the road and drives right to the accident. I jump out go to the passenger side and there are 2 Natives drunk as fuck, The driver is cross legged under the steering wheel and bleeding severely, like Gushing, I could see his skull, his scalp was flipped over about 4inches. The passenger was asking me to hide the booze and not call the cops. I just sat there watching, I guess in shock. My Friend and a women(who had tampon pads in her purse) were trying to stop the bleeding, pulled the guy OUT of the truck and put him on the ground, not knowing if he had a back injury or whatever, everyone theres saying don't , don't stop moving him, but they didn't listen.



The Guy died, right there on the spot, The passenger and his family sued both the lady and my best friend. It was thrown out of court because of the drinking.



So, Helping doesn't always benefit everyone, You might think your doing the right thing but are you safe to do so? My Best friend said he would do it again if it meant saving there life.



Oh he was pretty messed up about the guy dying in his hands.



That's my story.

oh and

OBI

FUCK OFF -- ROfl




This case is much different, she knew what to do and exactly how to do it and the lady was not in danger of dying. She was having a seizure and my kid recognized that and decided to help her because she knew she could. I know she would do it again and for anyone who needed help if she knew what and how to do it. So, I'm not at all worried about her being sued.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 21, 2013, 06:08:27 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Yeah, I read it Jay. Quite some time ago though.


children are the shadow of their parents. they take after some of personalities of their parents. so I presume that Ms. Anne must be a woman with full of love for people and pets

Yes, I believe our Annie has those qualities Jay. However, not all kids are a chip off the old block.




I would def help anyone who needed help, but I'm not sure I would be as calm as my daughter was, especially if it was a dire situation.  



Oh and thank you for all the compliments, makes me feel really good :-)
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 21, 2013, 10:12:02 PM
Quote from: "Annie"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"


children are the shadow of their parents. they take after some of personalities of their parents. so I presume that Ms. Anne must be a woman with full of love for people and pets

Yes, I believe our Annie has those qualities Jay. However, not all kids are a chip off the old block.




I would def help anyone who needed help, but I'm not sure I would be as calm as my daughter was, especially if it was a dire situation.  



Oh and thank you for all the compliments, makes me feel really good :-)

Glad we could we could do that Annie.



I think you raised a key point here. That is calmness under pressure. Very difficult for some people to remain focused in emergency situations.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 21, 2013, 10:37:09 PM
I think it's ironic how she was able to remain focused and calm when she's usually distracted and doesn't "seem" to be paying attention. She's always had issues with learning and remembering but this was right up her ally! Learning and remembering things that can help others and animals seem to just stick in her mind. Other stuff, like money and time, not so much LoL
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 21, 2013, 10:42:02 PM
Quote from: "Annie"I think it's ironic how she was able to remain focused and calm when she's usually distracted and doesn't "seem" to be paying attention. She's always had issues with learning and remembering but this was right up her ally! Learning and remembering things that can help others and animals seem to just stick in her mind. Other stuff, like money and time, not so much LoL

She's eighteen right Annie? Perhaps you could look into something helping people or animals as a job for her. I don't know anything about either field, but it might be worth your time to look into it.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 21, 2013, 11:18:08 PM
She was volunteering at the SPCA but had to stop because her allergies got so bad and there wasn't much for her to do other than clean out cages. Which she shouldn't be doing since her immune system is very low and she can inhale fumes from feces and urine and get very ill. She had to spend a couple weeks in hospital a few years ago on intravenous meds because she ate cat littler and got a stomache virus. Thank goodness she doesn't do that anymore and we switched to pine pellets and she not allowed to go anywhere near the boxes.



We are waiting for approval for her to be on disability, they have programs for special needs adults that travel together and work together in places like Walmart, recycling plants etc. She regularly volunteers to pick up garbage along shorelines in the spring and summer. We have a long garbage tong picker upper thing and rubber gloves for her to use as well as a mask so that works very well.  I suppose a good strong mask would work for at the SPCA as well but she would need to be supervised and reminded to wear it.  I wonder if a mask would work for her allergies too?



She walks our neighbor's dog regularly and they pay her weekly, they provide the little doggy bag for her to pick up the poop too.  She's really good with clay art, and wants to one day soon have her own small bussiness making clay miniatures. I think she would do very well at it and our son can make her an awesome website for her to sell online or even Ebay!
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 21, 2013, 11:21:59 PM
Yep she's 18, soon to be 19 in a few months! Yikes, they grow up so fast. Our son is 21 and moved out. I'm spending a few hours with him tomorrow, haven't seen him for a couple weeks. I'm super excited, I hope I can sleep tonight :)
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 21, 2013, 11:27:36 PM
Quote from: "Annie"She was volunteering at the SPCA but had to stop because her allergies got so bad and there wasn't much for her to do other than clean out cages. Which she shouldn't be doing since her immune system is very low and she can inhale fumes from feces and urine and get very ill. She had to spend a couple weeks in hospital a few years ago on intravenous meds because she ate cat littler and got a stomache virus. Thank goodness she doesn't do that anymore and we switched to pine pellets and she not allowed to go anywhere near the boxes.



We are waiting for approval for her to be on disability, they have programs for special needs adults that travel together and work together in places like Walmart, recycling plants etc. She regularly volunteers to pick up garbage along shorelines in the spring and summer. We have a long garbage tong picker upper thing and rubber gloves for her to use as well as a mask so that works very well.  I suppose a good strong mask would work for at the SPCA as well but she would need to be supervised and reminded to wear it.  I wonder if a mask would work for her allergies too?



She walks our neighbor's dog regularly and they pay her weekly, they provide the little doggy bag for her to pick up the poop too.  She's really good with clay art, and wants to one day soon have her own small bussiness making clay miniatures. I think she would do very well at it and our son can make her an awesome website for her to sell online or even Ebay!

Too bad you and your daughter are not here in Edmonton Annie. I could find all kinds of jobs around my house for her to do. :lol:



Srsly though, she sounds ambitious and wants to feel useful(who doesn't). She will find something or more than one thing that will both occupy her time and utilize her abilities.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 21, 2013, 11:54:04 PM
Considering she tires easily and has to sleep a lot more and take naps, she's a very busy kid! She goes to a youth group for special needs adults once a week and another group with teenagers who are not special needs, she really enjoys both and seems to fit in. The second group, she was worried they wouldn't accept her, but I told her to just give the other members a chance, be yourself and be nice. She loves it there and made a ton of friends at both groups. She grew up with extreme bullying in school right from elementary and that made her withdrawal from everything until she went to these groups. She finally feels "accepted".  She has grown so much in the past year since she graduated from high school, I see little improvements almost every day now!
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 21, 2013, 11:56:48 PM
Oh and she'll be having a liver transplant, not sure when, we're in the early stages of the doctor setting it up with us. She's got a lot on her plate!
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2013, 12:15:06 AM
Quote from: "Annie"Oh and she'll be having a liver transplant, not sure when, we're in the early stages of the doctor setting it up with us. She's got a lot on her plate!

Holy fuck Annie!! What is wrong with her liver?
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 22, 2013, 12:44:00 AM
She has Caroli's and her  liver is in the first stages of failure, without a transplant she will die.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2013, 12:48:25 AM
Quote from: "Annie"She has Caroli's and her  liver is in the first stages of failure, without a transplant she will die.

I never heard of it Annie, but this is what wiki has written;
QuoteCaroli disease is a rare inherited disorder characterized by dilatation of the intrahepatic bile ducts. There are two types of Caroli disease, the most common being the simple, or isolated case where the bile ducts are widened by ectasia. The second, more complex, cause is commonly known as Caroli Syndrome. This complex form is also linked with portal hypertension and congenital hepatic fibrosis. [1] The differences between the causes of the two cases have not yet been discovered. Caroli disease is also associated with liver failure and polycystic kidney disease. The disease affects about 1 in 1,000,000 people, with more reported cases of Caroli syndrome than of Caroli disease. [2]
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 22, 2013, 12:48:46 AM
But! Thank goodness they can do living organ transplants! So we have a better chance of getting one. I haven't broken the news to our son yet. If he's a perfect match I KNOW he will be the first person to step up and give her some of his.  Did you know that a healthy person can grow they're liver back? He's super healthy but I worry because he's starting his under graduate in January and I don't want him to lose the course after paying for it :-(
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2013, 12:54:55 AM
Quote from: "Annie"But! Thank goodness they can do living organ transplants! So we have a better chance of getting one. I haven't broken the news to our son yet. If he's a perfect match I KNOW he will be the first person to step up and give her some of his.  Did you know that a healthy person can grow they're liver back? He's super healthy but I worry because he's starting his under graduate in January and I don't want him to lose the course after paying for it :-(

I had no idea that living transplants were possible. I thought donating an organ other than a kidney was an all or nothing deal. Someone dies and organs like their liver if they are healthy can be transplanted into a healthy person. Cutting out part of someone's liver and growing it back? I never would have guessed.



What a friggin dilemma for your family. Your son may be the perfect match. Risky operation I would think.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 22, 2013, 12:59:26 AM
Risky maybe for her but we've already done all the kidney and heart tests and they're all healthy enough and working well and the Dr feels she would do well with a transplant. We've had so many close calls our entire lives, it's a friggin miracle ten times over she's still here and considering all she has (polycystic kidney disease, ASD/heart defect with a device to keep her blood flowing the proper way) No one with her condition has lived past 21, without a transplant, so this will be another life saver.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2013, 01:14:29 AM
Quote from: "Annie"Risky maybe for her but we've already done all the kidney and heart tests and they're all healthy enough and working well and the Dr feels she would do well with a transplant. We've had so many close calls our entire lives, it's a friggin miracle ten times over she's still here and considering all she has (polycystic kidney disease, ASD/heart defect with a device to keep her blood flowing the proper way) No one with her condition has lived past 21, without a transplant, so this will be another life saver.

I am just amazed that they can cut part of a liver out of one person, put it in another person and they both will grow a full liver. The human body is fucking amazing.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 22, 2013, 01:22:55 AM
It is amazing!
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 22, 2013, 01:24:12 AM
Oh and now within 2 years after a person has a transplant, they might not even have to take any anti rejection drugs! Soo, that will be even less side effects, less cost, less worrying if a pill is missed.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2013, 08:50:00 AM
Quote from: "Annie"Oh and she'll be having a liver transplant, not sure when, we're in the early stages of the doctor setting it up with us. She's got a lot on her plate!

 :cry:
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2013, 08:50:59 AM
Quote from: "Annie"Oh and now within 2 years after a person has a transplant, they might not even have to take any anti rejection drugs! Soo, that will be even less side effects, less cost, less worrying if a pill is missed.

Medical technology is a blessing from God Ms. Annie..



She will be in my prayers.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: keeper on November 22, 2013, 01:00:59 PM
This case is much different, she knew what to do and exactly how to do it and the lady was not in danger of dying. She was having a seizure and my kid recognized that and decided to help her because she knew she could. I know she would do it again and for anyone who needed help if she knew what and how to do it. So, I'm not at all worried about her being sued.[/quote]





Annie, With respect, I wasn't disputing that your lovely courageous Daughter knew what she was doing, But, you do not know she wasn't in any danger of dying. People that have seizures die all the time, a friend of mine died from one. My point I was making is you have to be careful when dealing with a situation that can potentially end you up in trouble no matter of what good intentions you have. 4 years of my friends life was ruined Annie because he wanted to help someone was all I was pointing out. I feel bad now for how I explained THAT situation. Your daughter is so brave, I hope I didn't make you think other wise.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2013, 01:19:49 PM
Quote from: "Keeper"Annie, With respect, I wasn't disputing that your lovely courageous Daughter knew what she was doing, But, you do not know she wasn't in any danger of dying. People that have seizures die all the time, a friend of mine died from one. My point I was making is you have to be careful when dealing with a situation that can potentially end you up in trouble no matter of what good intentions you have. 4 years of my friends life was ruined Annie because he wanted to help someone was all I was pointing out. I feel bad now for how I explained THAT situation. Your daughter is so brave, I hope I didn't make you think other wise.

I have heard about the liability thing Keeps. People with training afraid to help for fear of being held liable. Speaks volumes about the problems with our civil laws.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 22, 2013, 04:28:02 PM
It would be really stupid to go after and sue and ruin they're life because they helped them. But I see your point Keeper. One would have to be wary just in case. Isn't there a saying about how a good deed doesn't go unpunished?  :shock:
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2013, 04:39:09 PM
Quote from: "Annie"It would be really stupid to go after and sue and ruin they're life because they helped them. But I see your point Keeper. One would have to be wary just in case. Isn't there a saying about how a good deed doesn't go unpunished?  :shock:

There are lots of idioms that have little to do with reality though Annie. We all think what your daughter did was admirable, but I can see how some people might think twice though. It's just the sad state of our legal situation Annie.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Renee on November 22, 2013, 05:14:57 PM
In the US we are such a litigious society that unless you are a certified EMS worker you are actually advised by the police not to help a person in need. You are to simply call for help and wait until it arrives. It's pretty sad because people are such assholes and will sue at the slightest provocation.  Because of this I'm not exactly sure what I would do if I was in position to help a stranger in a medical emergency. I'd like to think I would say "fuck it" and do what needs to be done but maybe not. Hopefully I'll never have to find out.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 22, 2013, 05:23:33 PM
Ya I know, it's sad. I asked my daughter if they took her name or anyone videoed it and she said no, so no worries at all just in case :-)
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2013, 06:09:18 PM
Quote from: "Renee"In the US we are such a litigious society that unless you are a certified EMS worker you are actually advised by the police not to help a person in need. You are to simply call for help and wait until it arrives. It's pretty sad because people are such assholes and will sue at the slightest provocation.  Because of this I'm not exactly sure what I would do if I was in position to help a stranger in a medical emergency. I'd like to think I would say "fuck it" and do what needs to be done but maybe not. Hopefully I'll never have to find out.

What is wrong with the picture when the police advise citizens to let someone die instead of helping them. :shock:
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: keeper on November 22, 2013, 08:27:06 PM
Im with Renee on this, i prolly would help out i guess. Hard call knowing what i know now and what happened, it could have been me if i was on the other side of the truck. It angers me because the family was not there and did not see how hard both the lady and my friend were trying so hard to help this guy. But im sure they were told maybe if they didnt more him he may have survived and they seen an opportunity to get money. Im sure those blood sucking lawyers advised them to sue.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2013, 08:32:24 PM
Quote from: "Keeper"Im with Renee on this, i prolly would help out i guess. Hard call knowing what i know now and what happened, it could have been me if i was on the other side of the truck. It angers me because the family was not there and did not see how hard both the lady and my friend were trying so hard to help this guy. But im sure they were told maybe if they didnt more him he may have survived and they seen an opportunity to get money. Im sure those blood sucking lawyers advised them to sue.

I too would offer whatever assistance I was trained to give Keeper..



That is an interesting avatar you have.

 :o
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: keeper on November 22, 2013, 10:49:56 PM
im experimenting
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 23, 2013, 12:11:10 AM
Quote from: "Keeper"im experimenting

I am sorry, but I don't follow what you mean Keeper?



Could you explain your meaning please?
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: keeper on November 23, 2013, 01:55:49 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Keeper"im experimenting

I am sorry, but I don't follow what you mean Keeper?



Could you explain your meaning please?


Experimenting, like im trying different avatars, see what ones i like.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: keeper on November 23, 2013, 01:58:16 AM
what about this one, I AM CANADIAN.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Romero on November 23, 2013, 02:29:55 AM
Oh Canada
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 23, 2013, 02:41:58 AM
That IS quite the avatar there, Keeper, you perv LoL :-)
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: keeper on November 23, 2013, 07:33:43 AM
Quote from: "Annie"That IS quite the avatar there, Keeper, you perv LoL :-)


Almost makes ya wanna kiss the Flag dont it  :lol:
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 23, 2013, 11:03:45 AM
Quote from: "Keeper"
Quote from: "Annie"That IS quite the avatar there, Keeper, you perv LoL :-)


Almost makes ya wanna kiss the Flag dont it  :lol:

You and Romero are quite the patriots!! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: keeper on November 23, 2013, 09:46:04 PM
<<---- can you say STEAM BOAT hahahaha
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2013, 01:21:48 PM
Quote from: "Keeper"<<---- can you say STEAM BOAT hahahaha

Judging by your last two avs, I can see what occupies your mind. ;)
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Odinson on November 28, 2013, 02:16:42 PM
Your girl is a heroine.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2013, 06:03:24 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"Your girl is a heroine.

Annie's daughter is a heroine.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2013, 08:30:51 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Odinson"Your girl is a heroine.

Annie's daughter is a heroine.

The city of Vancouver is fortunate to have girls like Annie's daughter riding public transit.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 28, 2013, 10:03:02 PM
Thanks for the compliments :-) With the risk of having my head swell even more, I'd like to say, she also always gives up her seat to anyone who needs it, folds down the seats for people, opens doors, lets others go first and last week she bought a young man a meal from A&W because he hadn't eaten for almost 2 days and she had 5 bucks in her pocket. We've always taught our kids that no matter how poor you are, there is always someone else who has less and we should help them. In school, she would often be in "trouble" for giving away her food when all she was doing was helping other kids who didn't have a lunch. I always packed extra in they're lunches because every day there was always a kid who had nothing :-(  



When our son was in grade 4, he had a bully who would push his sister down and fight with him. One day he noticed this kid didn't have a lunch half the time so he sat next to him at lunch and put a sandwich and ding dong in front of the kid and said, can we eat lunch together? The kid never picked on him or our daughter again, they became friends instead :-)
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2013, 10:19:07 PM
Quote from: "Annie"Thanks for the compliments :-) With the risk of having my head swell even more, I'd like to say, she also always gives up her seat to anyone who needs it, folds down the seats for people, opens doors, lets others go first and last week she bought a young man a meal from A&W because he hadn't eaten for almost 2 days and she had 5 bucks in her pocket. We've always taught our kids that no matter how poor you are, there is always someone else who has less and we should help them. In school, she would often be in "trouble" for giving away her food when all she was doing was helping other kids who didn't have a lunch. I always packed extra in they're lunches because every day there was always a kid who had nothing :-(  



When our son was in grade 4, he had a bully who would push his sister down and fight with him. One day he noticed this kid didn't have a lunch half the time so he sat next to him at lunch and put a sandwich and ding dong in front of the kid and said, can we eat lunch together? The kid never picked on him or our daughter again, they became friends instead :-)

You should be so very proud Ms. Annie..



These are the kind of selfless, thoughtful acts that I am trying to instill in my own children..



I wish your daughter lived in Calgary near us...she would be a lovely role model for my own children.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 28, 2013, 11:05:04 PM
She's really good with little kids too, all she does is play with them, barbies, my little pony, littlest pet shop. She now has a full time babysitting job for a 12 year old, which is perfect because she likes the same things and she's super responsible and best thing is she doesn't have to cook but she cleans and does dishes and she gets payed for that too.  Tomorrow she's going to a soup kitchen for the day to watch some kids while they're Moms help the homeless. She's going to be payed too, I suggested she make a donation for the poor with that money, and she thinks that's a great idea, even though she really wants to buy new fuzzy mittens.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 28, 2013, 11:08:30 PM
She should still be able to still buy her mitts, they're paying her well :-)
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Romero on November 28, 2013, 11:23:06 PM
Quote from: "Annie"She's really good with little kids too, all she does is play with them, barbies, my little pony, littlest pet shop. She now has a full time babysitting job for a 12 year old, which is perfect because she likes the same things and she's super responsible and best thing is she doesn't have to cook but she cleans and does dishes and she gets payed for that too.  Tomorrow she's going to a soup kitchen for the day to watch some kids while they're Moms help the homeless. She's going to be payed too, I suggested she make a donation for the poor with that money, and she thinks that's a great idea, even though she really wants to buy new fuzzy mittens.

:thumbup:
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2013, 11:24:12 PM
Quote from: "Annie"She's really good with little kids too, all she does is play with them, barbies, my little pony, littlest pet shop. She now has a full time babysitting job for a 12 year old, which is perfect because she likes the same things and she's super responsible and best thing is she doesn't have to cook but she cleans and does dishes and she gets payed for that too.  Tomorrow she's going to a soup kitchen for the day to watch some kids while they're Moms help the homeless. She's going to be payed too, I suggested she make a donation for the poor with that money, and she thinks that's a great idea, even though she really wants to buy new fuzzy mittens.

Sounds like she's a Mother Theresa in training. Instead of making a donation for the poor, how about she start a fund and invest in the stock market? There are lots of safe funds for her to start understanding the market while she looks for more lucrative investing options.



Just teasing ya Annie, friends do that. Whatever she is doing and whatever you are teaching her, both of you keep it up. We are all better off for it.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 29, 2013, 12:07:55 AM
LoL Shen, I will be opening and RDSP for her in a week or two, she just got her acceptance letter  today! I've already talked to her and we are going to set up an investment plan so that every month something goes into it and in 10 years she will have a whole bunch of money to do what she wants, like a trip or get married, whatever :-)  I wish she wasn't handicapped but at least we have a plan for the future :-)
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 29, 2013, 12:21:37 AM
Quote from: "Annie"LoL Shen, I will be opening and RDSP for her in a week or two, she just got her acceptance letter  today! I've already talked to her and we are going to set up an investment plan so that every month something goes into it and in 10 years she will have a whole bunch of money to do what she wants, like a trip or get married, whatever :-)  I wish she wasn't handicapped but at least we have a plan for the future :-)

Bad thing about an RDSP is contributions to them are not tax deductible. However, unlike RRSP's the beneficiary is not penalized if contributions are withdrawn before they are paid out. Sounds like an excellent idea and if she takes as big an interest in saving and investing as she does with helping others maybe you and your hubby will be able to move into a bigger home in the future. ;)
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 29, 2013, 12:25:53 AM
But they are tax deductible but only after the 10 year investment period, so it will be all hers after that. I have one as well, but I only have 6 years left to wait to cash it in. I'm planning on using it for a train trip for hubby, I and our daughter across Canada :-) Our son doesn't want to go, besides he'll probably be married by then anyways LoL
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 29, 2013, 12:40:29 AM
Quote from: "Annie"But they are tax deductible but only after the 10 year investment period, so it will be all hers after that. I have one as well, but I only have 6 years left to wait to cash it in. I'm planning on using it for a train trip for hubby, I and our daughter across Canada :-) Our son doesn't want to go, besides he'll probably be married by then anyways LoL

Yeah, that's what I mean they are not immediately tax deductible. I haven't studied RDSP's that much well, for obvious reasons. The government puts in matching funds up to $1000/year from what I understand. Sounds like an excellent idea. Hope you enjoy your train trip. I have travelled many times by train in Asia and a few times in Europe.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Odinson on November 29, 2013, 12:40:46 AM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Odinson"Your girl is a heroine.

Annie's daughter is a heroine.


She is...
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 29, 2013, 01:26:55 AM
Aww thanks Odi  :)
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Odinson on November 29, 2013, 05:12:40 AM
Quote from: "Annie"Aww thanks Odi  :)


You are so nice.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 29, 2013, 05:21:18 AM
And you have a cool avatar  :P
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Odinson on November 29, 2013, 05:40:48 AM
Quote from: "Annie"And you have a cool avatar  :P


:D



Do you have any costume plans for the christmas parties?
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 29, 2013, 08:16:29 PM
Nope not really, other than a Santa hat or those colored paper hats you get in Christmas crackers.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 29, 2013, 08:18:55 PM
A girlfriend of mine and I are planning a Christmas party, probably at her place. I'll probably make a hot spinach/cheese dip and some spiced eggnog and rum, mmmmmm!
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on November 29, 2013, 09:30:18 PM
Quote from: "Annie"A girlfriend of mine and I are planning a Christmas party, probably at her place. I'll probably make a hot spinach/cheese dip and some spiced eggnog and rum, mmmmmm!

OK, I'm sold Annie. The Iron Chink is crashing your party and I can really eat.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 29, 2013, 09:43:38 PM
It would be cool to meet you for sure Shen, we'd have a blast!
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Odinson on November 30, 2013, 08:02:34 AM
Quote from: "Annie"Nope not really, other than a Santa hat or those colored paper hats you get in Christmas crackers.


Evil santa is always cool but it requires that some hot chick is the naughty elf.  :D
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 30, 2013, 08:52:35 AM
LoL  :lol:
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Odinson on November 30, 2013, 09:36:08 AM
:D Yup really family friendly christmas party.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on November 30, 2013, 05:29:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFMyF9fDKzE&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Odinson on November 30, 2013, 06:07:14 PM
:D Now it starts to sound like christmas.  ;)
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Odinson on November 30, 2013, 06:08:58 PM
Old Billy Bob got the christmas swagger on.. "Where them cookies at!?"



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Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on December 02, 2013, 11:18:12 AM
Quote from: "Annie"It would be cool to meet you for sure Shen, we'd have a blast!

Ah you know it girl. That would be so much fun.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: keeper on December 02, 2013, 11:56:23 AM
Quote from: "Annie"A girlfriend of mine and I are planning a Christmas party, probably at her place. I'll probably make a hot spinach/cheese dip and some spiced eggnog and rum, mmmmmm!




mmmm EggNog and Spiced Rums.... I know what im doing this weekend :lol:
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on December 02, 2013, 11:59:36 AM
Quote from: "Keeper"
Quote from: "Annie"A girlfriend of mine and I are planning a Christmas party, probably at her place. I'll probably make a hot spinach/cheese dip and some spiced eggnog and rum, mmmmmm!




mmmm EggNog and Spiced Rums.... I know what im doing this weekend :lol:

How's it going Keeps? Is it snowmageddon yet West of the city? Not yet here, but by afternoon it should be.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on December 02, 2013, 10:17:37 PM
Quote from: "Annie"It would be cool to meet you for sure Shen, we'd have a blast!

I would like to meet you too Ms. Annie.

 :)
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on December 02, 2013, 10:28:48 PM
I like to meet you too Fash! :)
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on December 02, 2013, 10:29:33 PM
Quote from: "Annie"I like to meet you too Fash! :)

That would be so nice.

 :D
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: keeper on December 04, 2013, 04:50:12 PM
We should all meet, I will get a hall, some wine and beers, wine coolers maybe. We could have a BBQ or we could all bring something. I think it would be fun
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on December 04, 2013, 05:10:06 PM
Quote from: "Keeper"We should all meet, I will get a hall, some wine and beers, wine coolers maybe. We could have a BBQ or we could all bring something. I think it would be fun

I think it would be a lot fun to meet all you people. As long as it's not in Finland. ;)
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on December 04, 2013, 08:47:02 PM
I would def go, but it would have to be in the Vancouver area.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on December 04, 2013, 08:52:57 PM
Quote from: "Annie"I would def go, but it would have to be in the Vancouver area.

That is a problem Ms. Annie..



I live in Calgary, Mr. Obvious Li is some place in Saskatchewan, Shen Li lives up in Edmonton and I think Keeper does too..



Romero, Jaysings and I think Ms. cc li tarte are in Vancouver..



I remember Ms. Renee writing she is in Washington state..



Mr. Blue Frost lives in Kentucky and of course Odinson lives in Finland..



It would be so nice if all of us could meet some time in your city.

 :)
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on December 04, 2013, 09:08:36 PM
I better go buy a lucky lottery ticket so that when I win, I can fly everyone out here :-)
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on December 04, 2013, 09:56:43 PM
Quote from: "Annie"I better go buy a lucky lottery ticket so that when I win, I can fly everyone out here :-)

I would never expect anyone to pay for me and I am sure nobody else here wants to burden you.

 :)
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on December 04, 2013, 10:26:37 PM
It wouldn't be a burden if I won the lottery!
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on December 04, 2013, 11:01:29 PM
Quote from: "Annie"It wouldn't be a burden if I won the lottery!

I would be only too happy to help ya spend any lottery winnings. Hey, that's what friends are for. ;)
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on December 05, 2013, 09:14:16 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Annie"It wouldn't be a burden if I won the lottery!

I would be only too happy to help ya spend any lottery winnings. Hey, that's what friends are for. ;)

The one good thing I will say about gambling on the lottery is the needy people's lives that can be changed forever with those kind of abundant resources.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on December 05, 2013, 11:17:15 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Annie"It wouldn't be a burden if I won the lottery!

I would be only too happy to help ya spend any lottery winnings. Hey, that's what friends are for. ;)

The one good thing I will say about gambling on the lottery is the needy people's lives that can be changed forever with those kind of abundant resources.

Oh bullshit, bigger/better/more vehicles. bigger/better/more houses, more luxurious vacations, private planes, the most expensive clothing and jewelry. You know the simple things in life for one's self. ;)
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Odinson on December 05, 2013, 11:23:20 AM
The bigger the better,
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: keeper on December 05, 2013, 01:52:35 PM
The way to go about this is to Pick some what of a neutral spot and see who can make it, Having in one persons City just isn't fair to the FAR away people. I have set one up before and this worked out the best. I think I even still have my "Keeper" t-shirt , errr hope it fits this sexy body still.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Odinson on December 05, 2013, 03:13:26 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
I would be only too happy to help ya spend any lottery winnings. Hey, that's what friends are for. ;)

The one good thing I will say about gambling on the lottery is the needy people's lives that can be changed forever with those kind of abundant resources.

Oh bullshit, bigger/better/more vehicles. bigger/better/more houses, more luxurious vacations, private planes, the most expensive clothing and jewelry. You know the simple things in life for one's self. ;)


I have a shirt which says the bigger the better. Size matters.
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Annie on December 05, 2013, 04:17:48 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Anonymous on December 05, 2013, 06:13:59 PM
Quote from: "Annie"I better go buy a lucky lottery ticket so that when I win, I can fly everyone out here :-)

I would be there too Annie if you bought me a ticket. :lol:
Title: Re: Medical situation on the skytrain
Post by: Odinson on December 06, 2013, 03:25:26 AM
Quote from: "Annie":lol:


 :D Annie.