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Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=379284 time=1599404968 user_id=1676
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/500000-covid19-math-mistake-panic/



Monumental stupidity and baseless stoking of fear...

Quote from: Renee post_id=379290 time=1599408253 user_id=156

Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=379284 time=1599404968 user_id=1676
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/500000-covid19-math-mistake-panic/



Monumental stupidity and baseless stoking of fear...

Oh there is a basis for it. At least here in the US it has a basis. In fact the article states the mistake in deciphering the numbers started here in the US. If anyone thinks this "mistake" happened out of an oversight in the application of statistics, they're a an idiot or at minimum a fool. This whole thing in the US has been politically motivated from the very start.



This COVID nonsense has been the dems last ditch effort to kill the Trump generated economy. That was their aim since scumbag Bill Maher brazenly and callously announced it on TV 3 years ago...It is a fact that people vote their wallet and when everyone has a job and more money in their pocket, the less likely they are to upset the apple cart at the polls. Unfortunately for the despicable democrats, even with the COVID lockdown, the rise in unemployment, and the nearly catastrophic effect COVID has had on small business, our economy is still better than it was under 90% of Obama's 8 years as president... :laugh3:



Now that the lockdown hasn't had the desired effect the democraps were hoping for, we now have to watch for an even more sinister attempt at the continuing presidential coup that the liberal scum have been perpetrating since 2016. On Nov 3 the American people will speak and Trump will be re-elected president. On Nov 4th millions of miraculously harvested ballots found in closets, under beds and in car trunks will overturn the will of the people in a final democrat perpetrated crime against the nation...Mark my words...On that day the next phase of the US civil war begins.

Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=379304 time=1599411055 user_id=1676
The US will never be the same...

Quote from: Renee post_id=379290 time=1599408253 user_id=156
...Mark my words...On that day the next phase of the US civil war begins.

Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=379292 time=1599409088 user_id=1676
Yep...



...as the DHS is squawking about emergency preparedness in the population over seemingly unrelated phenomenons. Supply chains are going down whether Trump wins or loses..

Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=380807 time=1600216274 user_id=56
More new cases of COVID. How completely unexpected. You would have thought that "experts" would have warned that six months of distancing, isolating, masking, and bleaching every surface every ten minutes would destroy everyone's immune system. Guess that didn't fit the government/ media narrative.

Quote from: BEnzo post_id=381158 time=1600268460 user_id=3222
Huh. The state I live in, Connecticut, is proof the lockdown works.

We have low Covid numbers now, and restrictions are quickly fading away.

I don't mind wearing a 'gator'.

The economy was in trouble long before Covid.

fyi-

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=381247 time=1600282986 user_id=114

Quote from: BEnzo post_id=381158 time=1600268460 user_id=3222
Huh. The state I live in, Connecticut, is proof the lockdown works.

We have low Covid numbers now, and restrictions are quickly fading away.

I don't mind wearing a 'gator'.

The economy was in trouble long before Covid.

fyi-

How can you say that temporary low infection numbers are proof lockdowns work. There is only one thing actually works and that is immunity. Immunity comes from a vaccine or when a majority of the population catches and recovers from the virus like I did.



The global economy was sound pre COVID with rising commodity prices as proof.

Quote from: BEnzo post_id=381158 time=1600268460 user_id=3222
Huh. The state I live in, Connecticut, is proof the lockdown works.

We have low Covid numbers now, and restrictions are quickly fading away.

I don't mind wearing a 'gator'.

The economy was in trouble long before Covid.

fyi-

Quote from: Fashionista post_id=381929 time=1600434504 user_id=3254
Lock downs are a temporary reprieve and that's all..



As soon as they end numbers go back up as we see in Canada and Europe..



The only way to stop the spread is with a vaccine.

Quote from: Thiel post_id=381604 time=1600372403 user_id=1688

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=381247 time=1600282986 user_id=114

Quote from: BEnzo post_id=381158 time=1600268460 user_id=3222
Huh. The state I live in, Connecticut, is proof the lockdown works.

We have low Covid numbers now, and restrictions are quickly fading away.

I don't mind wearing a 'gator'.

The economy was in trouble long before Covid.

fyi-

How can you say that temporary low infection numbers are proof lockdowns work. There is only one thing actually works and that is immunity. Immunity comes from a vaccine or when a majority of the population catches and recovers from the virus like I did.



The global economy was sound pre COVID with rising commodity prices as proof.

As a business owner with export sales to the US, I never did better than where I was just before the China virus went global.

QuoteAll shutdowns followed by openings do is to delay the inevitable

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=381247 time=1600282986 user_id=114

Quote from: BEnzo post_id=381158 time=1600268460 user_id=3222
Huh. The state I live in, Connecticut, is proof the lockdown works.

We have low Covid numbers now, and restrictions are quickly fading away.

I don't mind wearing a 'gator'.

The economy was in trouble long before Covid.

fyi-

How can you say that temporary low infection numbers are proof lockdowns work. There is only one thing actually works and that is immunity. Immunity comes from a vaccine or when a majority of the population catches and recovers from the virus like I did.



The global economy was sound pre COVID with rising commodity prices as proof.

Quote from: caskur post_id=381949 time=1600443159 user_id=2156
Benzo is correct, lockdowns work. We went fast and very hard. Our boarder is locked still.  We now can do anything we want and travel inside our border bearing in mind our state is the size of 5 Texas states. Our economy is growing and we are not in a recession unlike the eastern side of Australia. IF our mines were affected by covid-19, then Australia would completely collapse.



Our Premier, Labor, Mark McGowan should be ruler of the world. He was a former Royal Australian Naval Officer who has heroically protected us all.



And young people have had Covid-19 more than once so the immunity theory is bullshit... hths

Quote from: caskur post_id=381949 time=1600443159 user_id=2156
Benzo is correct, lockdowns work. We went fast and very hard. Our boarder is locked still.  We now can do anything we want and travel inside our border bearing in mind our state is the size of 5 Texas states. Our economy is growing and we are not in a recession unlike the eastern side of Australia. IF our mines were affected by covid-19, then Australia would completely collapse.



Our Premier, Labor, Mark McGowan should be ruler of the world. He was a former Royal Australian Naval Officer who has heroically protected us all.



And young people have had Covid-19 more than once so the immunity theory is bullshit... hths

Quote from: BEnzo post_id=382196 time=1600466855 user_id=3222

Quote from: caskur post_id=381949 time=1600443159 user_id=2156
Benzo is correct, lockdowns work. We went fast and very hard. Our boarder is locked still.  We now can do anything we want and travel inside our border bearing in mind our state is the size of 5 Texas states. Our economy is growing and we are not in a recession unlike the eastern side of Australia. IF our mines were affected by covid-19, then Australia would completely collapse.



Our Premier, Labor, Mark McGowan should be ruler of the world. He was a former Royal Australian Naval Officer who has heroically protected us all.



And young people have had Covid-19 more than once so the immunity theory is bullshit... hths

No point arguing, Cas. They don't accept facts and refuse to post any supporting facts of their own. All I know is I will be in a Sports bar this weekend wearing a mask shooting some darts and stick drinking Frosty's watching Football and feeling safe but being cautious.

Social distance, be safe-

I'm out of this one.

peace-

Quote from: caskur post_id=381969 time=1600446741 user_id=2156
Also Covid-19 causes liver, kidney, lung and brain damage which is going to cause Major and very expensive health problems down the track.



We can't have a sick workforce.... you know, the guys that have to go out in all weathers to dig ditches and fix power lines. You mlght be able to push your pen around your desk but try fixing the plumbing when the plumber can't get to you because he is sick.



Victoria failed their hotel quarantine by using private contractors who failed in their jobs to the point of even having sex with the quarantined and so the catchy virus spread out into the community. Another right-wing notion that privitization of government services were going to save the world and failed to deliver.

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=381954 time=1600444340 user_id=114

Quote from: caskur post_id=381949 time=1600443159 user_id=2156
Benzo is correct, lockdowns work. We went fast and very hard. Our boarder is locked still.  We now can do anything we want and travel inside our border bearing in mind our state is the size of 5 Texas states. Our economy is growing and we are not in a recession unlike the eastern side of Australia. IF our mines were affected by covid-19, then Australia would completely collapse.



Our Premier, Labor, Mark McGowan should be ruler of the world. He was a former Royal Australian Naval Officer who has heroically protected us all.



And young people have had Covid-19 more than once so the immunity theory is bullshit... hths

BEnzo is incorrect. He doesn't understand science. Forcing people apart delays the inevitable. Most of the world has had lock downs, including Victoria and infections continue to rise. It is not a cure or even a real solution. What is has caused is excess deaths not related to COVID across the Western world and mass starvation in the developing world.



The only thing that works is immunity. You can try to achieve that the way India is doing through herd immunity(which I think is extremely dangerous) or a vaccine. As whole sectors of the global economy(tourism for example) are still shut down, we know lock downs neither work nor are they anything other than a delay of the inevitable. The world will only be reopened entirely when there is immunity. Lock downs are not immunity.

Quote from: BEnzo post_id=381942 time=1600442071 user_id=3222
In New England we kicked the shit out of Covid. The rest of America should take note.

Quote from: Fashionista post_id=382236 time=1600468363 user_id=3254

Quote from: caskur post_id=381969 time=1600446741 user_id=2156
Also Covid-19 causes liver, kidney, lung and brain damage which is going to cause Major and very expensive health problems down the track.



We can't have a sick workforce.... you know, the guys that have to go out in all weathers to dig ditches and fix power lines. You mlght be able to push your pen around your desk but try fixing the plumbing when the plumber can't get to you because he is sick.



Victoria failed their hotel quarantine by using private contractors who failed in their jobs to the point of even having sex with the quarantined and so the catchy virus spread out into the community. Another right-wing notion that privitization of government services were going to save the world and failed to deliver.

People with kidney, liver,heart and brain issues died because their surgeries/treatments were cancelled and or postponed because of lock downs.

Quote from: cc post_id=382305 time=1600470679 user_id=88

Quote from: BEnzo post_id=381942 time=1600442071 user_id=3222
In New England we kicked the shit out of Covid. The rest of America should take note.

WTF are you trying to sell us?????, you snake-oil salesman





Using your own link, today, 55,527 total cases, 4,492 total died    .. 77 in hospital now ..  for a rinky dink baby state of 3 1/2 million ????



Your numbers are terrible   cases and deaths / million (or per any number you wish to compare by) are near the worse in your country



SHAME



Hell!! Our province is 1 1/2 X your population & we have 7,800 cases (1/7 th) total, 223 (1/20th) deaths total, !/2 the number in hospital today and less new cases

And we have opened up greatly ffs



Get a grip - You guys are up there with the worse of the worse





You sir, are full of 2 things - 1. yourself, and 2. shit

Quote from: caskur post_id=381961 time=1600445776 user_id=2156
All contagious diseases have disappeared under lockdown, and some those diseases killed people .  Regular flus and colds cost the community billions. Crime went down, car accident went down.



The wretched ccp went full lockdown because they knew it worked but really everyone should have followed the Taiwanese and worn masks right from the start.

Quote from: caskur post_id=382654 time=1600499469 user_id=2156
I don't care what you all do overseas or outside my state... Our Labor prem protected us like a Boss and our economy is thriving and completely negates everything said on this site so I can't be bothered informing any of you anymore.



I know a couple of people who got the flu after flu shots... So there you go.



Vaccinations aren't as great as they're made out to be... You still catch the diseases... and you can still die after being vaccinated. But death is kind... brain damage is not.

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=382754 time=1600545659 user_id=114
Caskur, you do realize that when a jurisdiction opens up after closing down completely, of course some people return to work.

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=382754 time=1600545659 user_id=114
Caskur, you do realize that when a jurisdiction opens up after closing down completely, of course some people return to work. But, still employment levels in WA are at seventy per cent of what they were pre pandemic. Your state and my province have not recovered all jobs lost due to enforced lock downs.  A lot of service jobs in your state and my province are gone for good thanks to hard lock downs. There is no economic argument for full quarantine.



The US added 1.4 million jobs last month, but they are no where near the jobs boom they had pre pandemic. No place will return to pre pandemic employment levels until all sectors of the economy(travel) are open. That won't happen until there is immunity. You only get immunity by everybody catching it and recovering(very risky) or mass inoculation.

Quote from: Fashionista post_id=382770 time=1600553952 user_id=3254

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=382754 time=1600545659 user_id=114
Caskur, you do realize that when a jurisdiction opens up after closing down completely, of course some people return to work. But, still employment levels in WA are at seventy per cent of what they were pre pandemic. Your state and my province have not recovered all jobs lost due to enforced lock downs.  A lot of service jobs in your state and my province are gone for good thanks to hard lock downs. There is no economic argument for full quarantine.



The US added 1.4 million jobs last month, but they are no where near the jobs boom they had pre pandemic. No place will return to pre pandemic employment levels until all sectors of the economy(travel) are open. That won't happen until there is immunity. You only get immunity by everybody catching it and recovering(very risky) or mass inoculation.

Western countries made a tragic mistake by imposing hard lock downs..



Caskur's own example shows two months after the lifting of draconian measures, her state still doesn't have some sectors of the economy reopened....just like Alberta..



What a disaster lock downs have been.

Quote from: caskur post_id=382777 time=1600555857 user_id=2156

Quote from: Fashionista post_id=382770 time=1600553952 user_id=3254

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=382754 time=1600545659 user_id=114
Caskur, you do realize that when a jurisdiction opens up after closing down completely, of course some people return to work. But, still employment levels in WA are at seventy per cent of what they were pre pandemic. Your state and my province have not recovered all jobs lost due to enforced lock downs.  A lot of service jobs in your state and my province are gone for good thanks to hard lock downs. There is no economic argument for full quarantine.



The US added 1.4 million jobs last month, but they are no where near the jobs boom they had pre pandemic. No place will return to pre pandemic employment levels until all sectors of the economy(travel) are open. That won't happen until there is immunity. You only get immunity by everybody catching it and recovering(very risky) or mass inoculation.

Western countries made a tragic mistake by imposing hard lock downs..



Caskur's own example shows two months after the lifting of draconian measures, her state still doesn't have some sectors of the economy reopened....just like Alberta..



What a disaster lock downs have been.

that is completely false,



Alberta has a GDP of 71 billion a year, with just shy of 4.4 million population.



Western Australia has a GDP OF 190+ billion a year.



our population is around 2.6  million..... I'm pretty sure 190+ billion $$$



 can support 2.6 million people with ease.

Quote from: caskur post_id=382777 time=1600555857 user_id=2156

Quote from: Fashionista post_id=382770 time=1600553952 user_id=3254

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=382754 time=1600545659 user_id=114
Caskur, you do realize that when a jurisdiction opens up after closing down completely, of course some people return to work. But, still employment levels in WA are at seventy per cent of what they were pre pandemic. Your state and my province have not recovered all jobs lost due to enforced lock downs.  A lot of service jobs in your state and my province are gone for good thanks to hard lock downs. There is no economic argument for full quarantine.



The US added 1.4 million jobs last month, but they are no where near the jobs boom they had pre pandemic. No place will return to pre pandemic employment levels until all sectors of the economy(travel) are open. That won't happen until there is immunity. You only get immunity by everybody catching it and recovering(very risky) or mass inoculation.

Western countries made a tragic mistake by imposing hard lock downs..



Caskur's own example shows two months after the lifting of draconian measures, her state still doesn't have some sectors of the economy reopened....just like Alberta..



What a disaster lock downs have been.

that is completely false,



Alberta has a GDP of 71 billion a year, with just shy of 4.4 million population.



Western Australia has a GDP OF 190+ billion a year.



our population is around 2.6  million..... I'm pretty sure 190+ billion $$$



 can support 2.6 million people with ease.

Quote from: Zetsu post_id=382823 time=1600567899 user_id=61

Quote from: caskur post_id=382777 time=1600555857 user_id=2156

Quote from: Fashionista post_id=382770 time=1600553952 user_id=3254

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=382754 time=1600545659 user_id=114
Caskur, you do realize that when a jurisdiction opens up after closing down completely, of course some people return to work. But, still employment levels in WA are at seventy per cent of what they were pre pandemic. Your state and my province have not recovered all jobs lost due to enforced lock downs.  A lot of service jobs in your state and my province are gone for good thanks to hard lock downs. There is no economic argument for full quarantine.



The US added 1.4 million jobs last month, but they are no where near the jobs boom they had pre pandemic. No place will return to pre pandemic employment levels until all sectors of the economy(travel) are open. That won't happen until there is immunity. You only get immunity by everybody catching it and recovering(very risky) or mass inoculation.

Western countries made a tragic mistake by imposing hard lock downs..



Caskur's own example shows two months after the lifting of draconian measures, her state still doesn't have some sectors of the economy reopened....just like Alberta..



What a disaster lock downs have been.

that is completely false,



Alberta has a GDP of 71 billion a year, with just shy of 4.4 million population.



Western Australia has a GDP OF 190+ billion a year.



our population is around 2.6  million..... I'm pretty sure 190+ billion $$$



 can support 2.6 million people with ease.

Though similar but GDP isn't really the same thing as the income sum of a state, no offense caskur but you need to get your facts straight unless people can live by eating rocks.