It is truly awe inspiring.
They have courage and I salute them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSVTg6wvs1I
Wow. That was powerful. I actually agree with a lot of what they are saying, but there are major problems and the media's constant speculation is detrimental to society as a whole.
I am fearful that when the Floyd officers are acquitted, the US will burn. We saw the same shit with King... the media spun that as a routine traffic stop that ended with that horrific beating. Meanwhile, he was high on PCP leading them on a high speed chase endangering the lives of everyone in his path.
It's a well known fact that juries do not typically convict police officers for killings committed while on duty. Mark my words... we are fucked.
The public reaction to an acquittal is scary even the officer cannot be convicted murder..
In Canada, perhaps criminal negligence causing death or involuntary manslaughter..
Neither of these crimes involve federal penitentiary time(more than two years).
Floyd's death has resulted in the biggest protest turned riot in the history of the US. I joined that protest supporting justice and the end of systematic racism. I left when pipe bombs were thrown and it became a "fuck the police" rant. I support my moral and ethical boys in blue.
I also am a firm believer in due process, which many of these officers are demanding full compliance and or death.
My younger brother is an RCMP officer in a predominantly Aboriginal area of the province of Manitoba..
Being a policeman is a tough job, but he loves it..
Do you think racism was involved in the altercation with George Floyd?
I do not think racism was a factor in any of these police confrontations.
If these states burn....its because the governors of them allowed it. All it takes is a phone call and feds will clear it.
They rather let their cities be destroyed, sadly. Innocent people die and have their lives ruined. They dont care.
I believe these instances weren't racially charged as much as I believe that their prior arrest records were a factor when no DL/ID was produced or ran.
It's not that the actual protestors don't care about the communities as much as it is the rioters being opportunistic and taking advantage during this time.
It is our second amendment right to demonstrate and protest peacefully. It's also under this same amendment that we have the right to bear arms. It is as illegal to riot as it is to stick a gun in someone's face. I personally wish everyone would stay safe inside their homes and wear their masks during this pandemic, but it's not going to happen.
The military will eventually take over. Mark my words. That's when all of our rights as citizens of this Country are going to be impacted.
First amendment is peaceful protest.
Second is right to bear arms.
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I do not think racism was a factor in any of these police confrontations.
If these states burn....its because the governors of them allowed it. All it takes is a phone call and feds will clear it.
They rather let their cities be destroyed, sadly. Innocent people die and have their lives ruined. They dont care.
Racism was a factor in the protests, but not in the confrontation between Floyd and the Minneapolis police.
I dunno. As to that incident only, I found it weird that the one cop kept pressure on for so long ,, even as others were saying stop
whether race caused such an act or stupidity caused it we cannot know inside his head. It could have been either or a combination of both
And yes, Racism was a "trigger" in the protests which actually become destructive riots that end up being against current society as a whole, not just whitey
Certainly some police incidents are race driven ... often it's power tripping.... occasional bad apples exist in all sections of society
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Quote from: Dove post_id=383873 time=1600890107 user_id=3266
I do not think racism was a factor in any of these police confrontations.
If these states burn....its because the governors of them allowed it. All it takes is a phone call and feds will clear it.
They rather let their cities be destroyed, sadly. Innocent people die and have their lives ruined. They dont care.
Racism was a factor in the protests, but not in the confrontation between Floyd and the Minneapolis police.
We can speculate all day and night about whether or not that officer was racist. The fact of the matter is I've never seen a hold that is taught in academy during training described as "inducing the immediate onset of cardiac arrest" used on a white man who then subsequently dies and the video is blasted all over the news for months in end.
I know we need the police. I also realize that systematic racism is an issue. If we demilitarized the police, I believe we would see less complacent and complaint minority officers not reacting in these situations.
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I dunno. As to that incident only, I found it weird that the one cop kept pressure on for so long ,, even as others were saying stop
whether race caused such an act or stupidity caused it we cannot know inside his head. It could have been either or a combination of both
And yes, Racism was a "trigger" in the protests which actually become destructive riots that end up being against current society as a whole, not just whitey
Certainly some police incidents are race driven ... often it's power tripping.... occasional bad apples exist in all sections of society
Police violence/murder of black people is the basis of the BLM movement. BLM's purpose is to raise awareness and support the black community when it had been inflicted.
The riots are the result of Antifa merging and convoluting this movement.
Black Lives Matter ~ society has already failed when we have to mention that ANY lives matter. It states in the Declaration of Independence that all men are created equal.
I´m fine with a military dictatorship...
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I dunno. As to that incident only, I found it weird that the one cop kept pressure on for so long ,, even as others were saying stop
whether race caused such an act or stupidity caused it we cannot know inside his head. It could have been either or a combination of both
And yes, Racism was a "trigger" in the protests which actually become destructive riots that end up being against current society as a whole, not just whitey
Certainly some police incidents are race driven ... often it's power tripping.... occasional bad apples exist in all sections of society
Police violence/murder of black people is the basis of the BLM movement. BLM's purpose is to raise awareness and support the black community when it had been inflicted.
The riots are the result of Antifa merging and convoluting this movement.
Black Lives Matter ~ society has already failed when we have to mention that ANY lives matter. It states in the Declaration of Independence that all men are created equal.
Its stupid... They should raise awareness on the black on black murders.
White people are being killed for same reasons.
The whole BLM movement is based on a lie.
The media has twisted it so that it seems that its only happening to black people.
BLMs only purpose is to create division, hate, anarchy etc.
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I dunno. As to that incident only, I found it weird that the one cop kept pressure on for so long ,, even as others were saying stop
whether race caused such an act or stupidity caused it we cannot know inside his head. It could have been either or a combination of both
And yes, Racism was a "trigger" in the protests which actually become destructive riots that end up being against current society as a whole, not just whitey
Certainly some police incidents are race driven ... often it's power tripping.... occasional bad apples exist in all sections of society
Police violence/murder of black people is the basis of the BLM movement. BLM's purpose is to raise awareness and support the black community when it had been inflicted.
The riots are the result of Antifa merging and convoluting this movement.
Black Lives Matter ~ society has already failed when we have to mention that ANY lives matter. It states in the Declaration of Independence that all men are created equal.
Its stupid... They should raise awareness on the black on black murders.
White people are being killed for same reasons.
The whole BLM movement is based on a lie.
The media is twisted it so that it seems that its only happening to black people.
BLMs only purpose is to create division, hate, anarchy etc.
That last statement is absolutely NOT true. You have the perfect storm of events that happened with Floyd inclusive of a worldwide pandemic, shelter in place orders, unemployment, and then ANOTHER black man is being killed by the police on the news. Whatever you believe about the officers involved, this is detrimental to struggling black communities.
Let them take your rights away then. However, I would prefer to preserve as much of our rights as possible in the wake of such totalitarian ideologies being implemented.
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I do not think racism was a factor in any of these police confrontations.
If these states burn....its because the governors of them allowed it. All it takes is a phone call and feds will clear it.
They rather let their cities be destroyed, sadly. Innocent people die and have their lives ruined. They dont care.
There is proof of racial bias in Floyd's death and it was clearly not murder or even manslaughter when you see the whole video. The cops will walk or convicted of a minor charge.
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Quote from: Dove post_id=383873 time=1600890107 user_id=3266
I do not think racism was a factor in any of these police confrontations.
If these states burn....its because the governors of them allowed it. All it takes is a phone call and feds will clear it.
They rather let their cities be destroyed, sadly. Innocent people die and have their lives ruined. They dont care.
Racism was a factor in the protests, but not in the confrontation between Floyd and the Minneapolis police.
We can speculate all day and night about whether or not that officer was racist. The fact of the matter is I've never seen a hold that is taught in academy during training described as "inducing the immediate onset of cardiac arrest" used on a white man who then subsequently dies and the video is blasted all over the news for months in end.
I know we need the police. I also realize that systematic racism is an issue. If we demilitarized the police, I believe we would see less complacent and complaint minority officers not reacting in these situations.
Because when it's done to white people, it's not politically useful.
The same hold was done on a white man right before it was done to Floyd. And unlike the Floyd, the cops directly killed this man AND were mocking him.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/08/01/police-laughed-joked-he-lost-consciousness-handcuffs-minutes-later-he-died/
In all the data we have....there just hasnt been any evidence of systemic racism.
The closest thing we have to systemic racism is Bidens crime bill. That caused mass incarceration of black men for nonviolent crime.
The media is very left leaning and only reports and pushes issues they can use to create a narrative that is favorable to democrats.
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Quote from: Dove post_id=383873 time=1600890107 user_id=3266
I do not think racism was a factor in any of these police confrontations.
If these states burn....its because the governors of them allowed it. All it takes is a phone call and feds will clear it.
They rather let their cities be destroyed, sadly. Innocent people die and have their lives ruined. They dont care.
Racism was a factor in the protests, but not in the confrontation between Floyd and the Minneapolis police.
We can speculate all day and night about whether or not that officer was racist. The fact of the matter is I've never seen a hold that is taught in academy during training described as "inducing the immediate onset of cardiac arrest" used on a white man who then subsequently dies and the video is blasted all over the news for months in end.
I know we need the police. I also realize that systematic racism is an issue. If we demilitarized the police, I believe we would see less complacent and complaint minority officers not reacting in these situations.
Because when it's done to white people, it's not politically useful.
The same hold was done on a white man right before it was done to Floyd. And unlike the Floyd, the cops directly killed this man AND were mocking him.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/08/01/police-laughed-joked-he-lost-consciousness-handcuffs-minutes-later-he-died/
In all the data we have....there just hasnt been any evidence of systemic racism.
The closest thing we have to systemic racism is Bidens crime bill. That caused mass incarceration of black men for nonviolent crime.
The media is very left leaning and only reports and pushes issues they can use to create a narrative that is favorable to democrats.
Biden is a life long anti desegregationist. I think he hates blacks because everything he has supported as an elected politician have been bad for blacks.
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I do not think racism was a factor in any of these police confrontations.
If these states burn....its because the governors of them allowed it. All it takes is a phone call and feds will clear it.
They rather let their cities be destroyed, sadly. Innocent people die and have their lives ruined. They dont care.
Racism was a factor in the protests, but not in the confrontation between Floyd and the Minneapolis police.
We can speculate all day and night about whether or not that officer was racist. The fact of the matter is I've never seen a hold that is taught in academy during training described as "inducing the immediate onset of cardiac arrest" used on a white man who then subsequently dies and the video is blasted all over the news for months in end.
I know we need the police. I also realize that systematic racism is an issue. If we demilitarized the police, I believe we would see less complacent and complaint minority officers not reacting in these situations.
Because when it's done to white people, it's not politically useful.
The same hold was done on a white man right before it was done to Floyd. And unlike the Floyd, the cops directly killed this man AND were mocking him.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/08/01/police-laughed-joked-he-lost-consciousness-handcuffs-minutes-later-he-died/
In all the data we have....there just hasnt been any evidence of systemic racism.
The closest thing we have to systemic racism is Bidens crime bill. That caused mass incarceration of black men for nonviolent crime.
The media is very left leaning and only reports and pushes issues they can use to create a narrative that is favorable to democrats.
The reason why BLM wants to demilitarize the police is because of how racist the military is. White supremacy is rampant in the military among the ranks.
I wholeheartedly support due process of the law. A police officer does not have the right to play judge, jury and executioner. I do not want to see the police murder anyone. They are employed to maintain the peace. How is this peaceful?
Is the war on drugs so important that we don't allow drug dealers to go and sell drugs to druggies and would rather traumatize society with their publicly broadcasted execution than let one get away?
BLM lost any small quotient of legitimacy it might have once had and Antifa NEVER had any. They've merged into a mob of socialists, slackers, communists, cheats, rioters, looters, and adult aged toddlers.
....and I despise the police. They are equally fucked up, so when you see me defending police actions, shit has hit the proverbial fan.
BLM never had any "actual" credibility.
Go back to Fergusson. BLM was smashing and burning and hurting people within minutes of startup
The only difference between antifa and BLM is Cause .. All of antifa is anarchy for burn, smash and hurt people .. whereas BLM has its own soldiers do that for them for an actual cause that is long ago lost and now unknown by those marching and providing cover.
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BLM lost any small quotient of legitimacy it might have once had and Antifa NEVER had any.
....and I despise the police. They are equally fucked up, so when you see me defending police actions, shit has hit the proverbial fan.
Both organizations get a lot of financial support from rich people.
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BLM lost any small quotient of legitimacy it might have once had and Antifa NEVER had any.
....and I despise the police. They are equally fucked up, so when you see me defending police actions, shit has hit the proverbial fan.
Both organizations get a lot of financial support from rich people.
Let's call it for what it is....a coup... they haven't been able to remove Trump in any other ways, so they'll burn the whole system down in order to get what they want.....previously a slow and deliberate systematic burn to fundamentally change the make up of the US into a more subservient almost EU version of its previous self....
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BLM lost any small quotient of legitimacy it might have once had and Antifa NEVER had any.
....and I despise the police. They are equally fucked up, so when you see me defending police actions, shit has hit the proverbial fan.
Both organizations get a lot of financial support from rich people.
Let's call it for what it is....a coup... they haven't been able to remove Trump in any other ways, so they'll burn the whole system down in order to get what they want.....previously a slow and deliberate systematic burn to fundamentally change the make up of the US into a more subservient almost EU version of its previous self....
This is a revolt of the mega rich.
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I do not think racism was a factor in any of these police confrontations.
If these states burn....its because the governors of them allowed it. All it takes is a phone call and feds will clear it.
They rather let their cities be destroyed, sadly. Innocent people die and have their lives ruined. They dont care.
Racism was a factor in the protests, but not in the confrontation between Floyd and the Minneapolis police.
We can speculate all day and night about whether or not that officer was racist. The fact of the matter is I've never seen a hold that is taught in academy during training described as "inducing the immediate onset of cardiac arrest" used on a white man who then subsequently dies and the video is blasted all over the news for months in end.
I know we need the police. I also realize that systematic racism is an issue. If we demilitarized the police, I believe we would see less complacent and complaint minority officers not reacting in these situations.
Because when it's done to white people, it's not politically useful.
The same hold was done on a white man right before it was done to Floyd. And unlike the Floyd, the cops directly killed this man AND were mocking him.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/08/01/police-laughed-joked-he-lost-consciousness-handcuffs-minutes-later-he-died/
In all the data we have....there just hasnt been any evidence of systemic racism.
The closest thing we have to systemic racism is Bidens crime bill. That caused mass incarceration of black men for nonviolent crime.
The media is very left leaning and only reports and pushes issues they can use to create a narrative that is favorable to democrats.
The reason why BLM wants to demilitarize the police is because of how racist the military is. White supremacy is rampant in the military among the ranks.
I wholeheartedly support due process of the law. A police officer does not have the right to play judge, jury and executioner. I do not want to see the police murder anyone. They are employed to maintain the peace. How is this peaceful?
Is the war on drugs so important that we don't allow drug dealers to go and sell drugs to druggies and would rather traumatize society with their publicly broadcasted execution than let one get away?
They support the political party that started the war on drugs and mass incarceration.
Also all they have done since they started is riot on election years. They started during the last administration.
Due process happens in court. Not on the street. When someone is being arrested and they become violent with police and start fighting.....that has nothing to do with due process.
I really do not understand this argument. In everyone of these shootings, police were not just gunning down cooperative suspects for the crime they may have committed. These people were fighting and attempting to flee.
I do not want a society where people have an option to be arrested. Everyone gets due process. Being allowed to run from your arrest or get violent with police is not something ANYONE gets free reign to do. Had these people cooperated in their arrest and fought in court, they wouldn't be dead right now.
We need to stop babying criminals and throwing police under the bus. It's the minority communities with high crime rates this hurts. No residents in high crime rate areas want the police to be penalized. But they are poor so no one listens to them or cares.
BLM has done nothing but destroy minority communities. These places dont just bounce back from riots. Businesses will leave. Taxes will rise. Many small businesses are closed forever, now. Basically because police had to take down violent suspects.
30 innocent people and a handful of children....mostly all black have died because of BLM riots.
This organization has destroyed more minority lives....whether by murder or economic devastation....than anything since the kkk. They have also raised billions of dollars, that they give to ActBlue. A democrat platform. The democrats....who are responsible for the mass incarceration, the qualified immunity and the shit unsafe schools.
It's almost like all these people HATE poor minorities. Because if police dare protect them from the high rates of violent crime....all these "racial justice" warriors show up go devastate the community and kill children.
When they say..."no justice no peace", it means as long as justice is served and police protect the community, they will not be allowed any peace.
So the options inner city disadvantaged people have? Tolerate violent criminals and just get murdered, raped, trafficked by gangs or BLM will destroy your whole community. That's the choice given by BLM.
No one supporting this mess gives a shit about inner city life or what it's like to live there. BLM wont give a single penny to these communities they wreck, or families they have ripped apart.
I know some dipshit upper middle class U of M graduate who has never spent a day in Detroit trying to fight to remove the police presence from schools. Do you think she gives a fuck that it's the only way these kids get in the door safely? Does she care that those police mentor the kids? Give them food and school supplies? That many kids get caught up in gangs at NINE years old and the police presence there has been good for the community? Do you think she knows anything about Detroit or how its policed?
No she doesnt give a fuck. Inner city minorities are a prop for her to feel all "revolution" high and the harm this is doing to vulnerable populations just doesnr matter. They go home and have a place to sleep, food to eat and resources.....so why should they give a fuck? They get to feel high on their idea of racail justice. 12 year old girls getting trafficked or people dying in gang violence at higher rates because the police were castrated doesnt matter to them because they wont be the ones living in the aftermath.
The fact that these monsters descended on Kenosha to destroy it.....because a rapist got himself shot by police for reaching into his car after resisting two taser shots
But completely ignored the fact that BLM "protesters" shot Secoriea Turner, an 8 year old child, in Atlanta says everything.
"No Justice No Peace" was initiated by the BLM movement which endured a hostile takeover by Antifa. Antifa's presence was noticeable during the second week of Floyd protests to me. BLM wants systematic racism to end. They did not initiate the riots. I'll prove my theory: go to a University campus hosting a BLM protest and you will not see riots on campus.
Do you honestly believe Antifa had sleeper cells all over the US... or did you read my part about the perfect storm of pandemic/unemployment/protest that led to a bunch of angry 20somethings flooding the streets to terrorize cities across 3 continents? Don't dilute the importance of BLM because you're mad about the resulting riots. It's an important message.
As for Blake: I have not seen any video that proves Blake handed over his DL/ID or that the officers ran it and were aware of his prior arrests.. which could have justified them throwing taser shots when he wasn't cooperating. I also haven't seen any video of taser shots being thrown and we never see Blake go down on the ground. I'm sure the calibration of the taser will be tested to confirm the officers story since they weren't wearing body cameras. The prior rape charge doesn't justify his being paralyzed in this incident and I doubt it will be admissible at trial.
Blake allegedly was breaking up a fight between 2 women when he was approached & questioned by police. Please explain to me why a man who has police with guns drawn on him and admits to the police that he has a knife in his car and is not visibly in handcuffs or under arrest should not be allowed to go to his vehicle so he can surrender the weapon to police? Cause from where I stood that's what it looks like happened. I also drew the conclusion that he wasn't under arrest yet just by the way he was walking to his car. It is standard protocol for police to request the surrendered of all weapons during any arrest. Why was a man not under arrest shot multiple times in the back when he attempted to open the door of his vehicle? He had 3 kids in the car who were watching this. Does that make it any more horrific for you? How is Blake going to stab a cop when guns are drawn on him?
Do we know if the officers asked him to hand over the weapon while they had their guns already drawn? No. We don't. We don't know anything that was said that led to him walk to his vehicle including the reason why the officers had their guns drawn. That's the problem with officers not wearing body cameras. I'm sorry, but an officer's life has to actually be in danger for them to shoot someone. I don't hear the officers yelling "stop or I'll shoot!" in the video either.
I'm not picking a side based on my favorite electoral candidate. I'm basing my opinion on my knowledge of the law. I'm reviewing the evidence just like everyone else except I refuse to assume Blake was guilty just because the cops had their guns drawn as soon as the video starts... which is the assumption I believe many have made here.
I don't want to live in a world where the police demand full compliance or death. They do not get to play judge/jury/executioner just because they have a badge.
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Racism was a factor in the protests, but not in the confrontation between Floyd and the Minneapolis police.
We can speculate all day and night about whether or not that officer was racist. The fact of the matter is I've never seen a hold that is taught in academy during training described as "inducing the immediate onset of cardiac arrest" used on a white man who then subsequently dies and the video is blasted all over the news for months in end.
I know we need the police. I also realize that systematic racism is an issue. If we demilitarized the police, I believe we would see less complacent and complaint minority officers not reacting in these situations.
Because when it's done to white people, it's not politically useful.
The same hold was done on a white man right before it was done to Floyd. And unlike the Floyd, the cops directly killed this man AND were mocking him.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/08/01/police-laughed-joked-he-lost-consciousness-handcuffs-minutes-later-he-died/
In all the data we have....there just hasnt been any evidence of systemic racism.
The closest thing we have to systemic racism is Bidens crime bill. That caused mass incarceration of black men for nonviolent crime.
The media is very left leaning and only reports and pushes issues they can use to create a narrative that is favorable to democrats.
The reason why BLM wants to demilitarize the police is because of how racist the military is. White supremacy is rampant in the military among the ranks.
I wholeheartedly support due process of the law. A police officer does not have the right to play judge, jury and executioner. I do not want to see the police murder anyone. They are employed to maintain the peace. How is this peaceful?
Is the war on drugs so important that we don't allow drug dealers to go and sell drugs to druggies and would rather traumatize society with their publicly broadcasted execution than let one get away?
They support the political party that started the war on drugs and mass incarceration.
Also all they have done since they started is riot on election years. They started during the last administration.
Due process happens in court. Not on the street. When someone is being arrested and they become violent with police and start fighting.....that has nothing to do with due process.
I really do not understand this argument. In everyone of these shootings, police were not just gunning down cooperative suspects for the crime they may have committed. These people were fighting and attempting to flee.
I do not want a society where people have an option to be arrested. Everyone gets due process. Being allowed to run from your arrest or get violent with police is not something ANYONE gets free reign to do. Had these people cooperated in their arrest and fought in court, they wouldn't be dead right now.
We need to stop babying criminals and throwing police under the bus. It's the minority communities with high crime rates this hurts. No residents in high crime rate areas want the police to be penalized. But they are poor so no one listens to them or cares.
BLM has done nothing but destroy minority communities. These places dont just bounce back from riots. Businesses will leave. Taxes will rise. Many small businesses are closed forever, now. Basically because police had to take down violent suspects.
30 innocent people and a handful of children....mostly all black have died because of BLM riots.
This organization has destroyed more minority lives....whether by murder or economic devastation....than anything since the kkk. They have also raised billions of dollars, that they give to ActBlue. A democrat platform. The democrats....who are responsible for the mass incarceration, the qualified immunity and the shit unsafe schools.
It's almost like all these people HATE poor minorities. Because if police dare protect them from the high rates of violent crime....all these "racial justice" warriors show up go devastate the community and kill children.
When they say..."no justice no peace", it means as long as justice is served and police protect the community, they will not be allowed any peace.
So the options inner city disadvantaged people have? Tolerate violent criminals and just get murdered, raped, trafficked by gangs or BLM will destroy your whole community. That's the choice given by BLM.
No one supporting this mess gives a shit about inner city life or what it's like to live there. BLM wont give a single penny to these communities they wreck, or families they have ripped apart.
I know some dipshit upper middle class U of M graduate who has never spent a day in Detroit trying to fight to remove the police presence from schools. Do you think she gives a fuck that it's the only way these kids get in the door safely? Does she care that those police mentor the kids? Give them food and school supplies? That many kids get caught up in gangs at NINE years old and the police presence there has been good for the community? Do you think she knows anything about Detroit or how its policed?
No she doesnt give a fuck. Inner city minorities are a prop for her to feel all "revolution" high and the harm this is doing to vulnerable populations just doesnr matter. They go home and have a place to sleep, food to eat and resources.....so why should they give a fuck? They get to feel high on their idea of racail justice. 12 year old girls getting trafficked or people dying in gang violence at higher rates because the police were castrated doesnt matter to them because they wont be the ones living in the aftermath.
This...^
Due process is the legal requirement that the state must respect all legal rights that are owed to a person.
"No justice, no peace" originated to the 1986 murder of Michael Griffith at the hands of an angry mob of white youth. It means we will protest until there is justice. Justice = trial.
The female victim specifically called on Jacob Blake. They were told who he was going in. The 911 call was her calling for help because of him. She told them who he was when she called.
But that's NOT why they shot him. They shot him BECAUSE HE FOUGHT them while they were arresting him.
He was weilding a knife, resisted TWO attempts to tase him, walked to the car as the police had guns drawn telling him to STOP. The minute he reached into his car they HAD to shoot him.
And if we start forcing cops to take bullets or make their job anymore dangerous then it is.....guess what? They WONT do it.
And itll be a disporportionate amount of poor minorities who get to live in that violent oppression where they cant let their children play in the yard or sit on the porch because of high and unchecked violent crime rates. Black on black crime will sky rocket.
All these people destroying the lives of inner city poor/working class minorities and getting innocent people killed are nor the ones who will be left vulnerable to violent crime. Itll be the residents that no one seems to want to advocate for. Those are the ones this is doing vast amounts of harm to.
These people who have to live in the aftermath that dont have a snazzy political movement, politicains, and middle class university white liberals and tons of funding behind them so literally no one gives a fuck. NONE of these people have a problem with police.
And Secoriea Turners mother may as well be dogshit to these people. I guess she HAD to bury her baby for "racail justice". It's a sacrifice democrats are willing to make and no one seems to be offended by that.
That woman Jacob Blake had committed domestic violence against....who he sexually assaulted and harrassed before he weirded a knife at police who were to get HER justice and protect HER....how do you think that black woman feels watching this "movement" rally behind her abuser?
BLM doesnt give a rip shit about black lives. They are a violent, far left marxist organization that has done absolutely nothing but destroy minority communities....rally behind criminals, shit on victims, and get more black adults and children murdered in two months than in 5 years of deadly police encounters. They are political terrorists.
No justice no peace MEANS it. They reject justice and reject peace. They are harming and terrorizing disadvantaged communities.
Basically BLM doesnt want dangerous criminals arrested if they dont want to be arrested. They shit on victims and wreck lives.
If these bags of raping fuck didnt fight the police, they would be getting their trial. They got themselves shot.
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Due process is the legal requirement that the state must respect all legal rights that are owed to a person.
Due process and rights do not allow people to physically assault police and reach when they are told not to.
If someone decides to fight the police and reach into a car, they get shot. I'm sorry but police are more important and we do not pay them to stand there while a suspect under arrest assaults them and grabs weapons.
If people dont want to die before they get their due process than they need to peacefully comply with police. Period.
No one has to give up THEIR rights so a violent criminal can run from cops or beat up cops or grab a weapon. These people dont get more rights than everyone else. They just dont.
https://youtu.be/mGgZA7rGAUQ
This is what can happen when someone who is fighting police is allowed to reach into their car.
Jacob Blake... Warrant for his arrest... 3rd degree sexual assault and multiple cases of domestic abuse.
Breonna Taylor... The cops had a warrant to search her house... A drug-dealer visited her house.
They found a body inside a car... The car was in Breonna Taylors name.
These "victims" are never clean.
Hood rats getting killed by the cops is not newsworthy unless the hood rat is black and the cop is white..
Black cops kill these monkeys all the time... Yet you dont see that in the news because it doesnt get same amount of "clicks".
Who is Jacob Blake?
The knife was recovered from the driver's side of Blake's black SUV after he was paralyzed.
Riots have been resulting from police brutality in the black communities since the 1960s.
BLM has been around since 2013 following the Trayvon Martin murder.
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Who is Jacob Blake?
A domestic abusing rapist who was shot by police because he fought the arrest and reached into his car...leaving them no choice but fo shoot him. He didnt die but is paralyzed.
BLM/antifa decided to punish the people of Kenosha for this by destroying their small town.
It's very sad.
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Who is Jacob Blake?
A domestic abusing rapist who was shot by police because he fought the arrest and reached into his car...leaving them no choice but fo shoot him. He didnt die but is paralyzed.
BLM/antifa decided to punish the people of Kenosha for this by destroying their small town.
It's very sad.
He was shot in the back..
I didn't know his name.
Quote from: Murdock post_id=384066 time=1600982011 user_id=3229
The knife was recovered from the driver's side of Blake's black SUV after he was paralyzed.
Riots have been resulting from police brutality in the black communities since the 1960s.
BLM has been around since 2013 following the Trayvon Martin murder.
Yes and in that case George Zimmerman was made to look white in the pictures..
Quote from: Murdock post_id=384066 time=1600982011 user_id=3229
The knife was recovered from the driver's side of Blake's black SUV after he was paralyzed.
Riots have been resulting from police brutality in the black communities since the 1960s.
BLM has been around since 2013 following the Trayvon Martin murder.
When people tell you to stop, and you reach....it doesnt matter if you have nothing. You dont fight police and reach.
Had he complied with police he wouldnt have been shot.
Riots shouldnt be allowed like they are. It punishes innocent people. People in these areas already struggle. Now several small businesses will never open again, peoples livelihoods are destroyed and way too many innocent people(mostly black ones) were murdered or brutalized.
Its domestic terrorism. Did little Secoriea Turner taking a bullet from BLM "justice" warriors bring any peace and justice?
Are they gonna kill and destroy minorities until police just say "fine.....we will leave violent criminals alone and not try to arrest them" and just stop protecting the communities? Regardless of what the law abiding residents want?(which is for police presence to be stronger, btw....they dont feel safe without police)
These people cannot afford to move to safer areas. It just makes me angry. Everyone protesting against the police should have to trade homes with the residents and let these protesters/rioters live in the hell they want so badly for the residents. It's not fair and its predatory that these protests and riots are enabled and tolerated while the voices of those who live in the communities and/or have been destroyed by this are not being heard.
We give the funding, political and platform support to the actual residents of the areas. They are mostly poor, vulnerable and not happy about this shit. And do not want the police defunded or penalized for shooting someone who was violently resisting.
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Who is Jacob Blake?
A domestic abusing rapist who was shot by police because he fought the arrest and reached into his car...leaving them no choice but fo shoot him. He didnt die but is paralyzed.
BLM/antifa decided to punish the people of Kenosha for this by destroying their small town.
It's very sad.
He was shot in the back..
I didn't know his name.
Yes. He was fighting police, weilding a knife, got up...walked around the car while police were ordering him to stop... then bent over into the car.
They have to act like you have a gun at that point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te5dwuJEdIw
:43(2):
Just an FYI.... wield means to use.
When someone gets tased they collapse or die. The cops claim they tased this guy 2x before he walked to his vehicle.
Jacob Blake did not have a knife on him when he was shot. The knife that he admitted to police as having was in the vehicle. The police officers were not wearing body cams. This footage was filmed by a person across the street (ignore the cops and focus on Blake):
https://youtu.be/NS5cSwVEyDg
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Just an FYI.... wield means to use.
Really, just like that?...Well real world application would disagree. Many veterans of policing would probably laugh at your obviously uninformed statement. No malice intended just a bit of amusement at all too common armchair expertise.
Here are some real world taser effectiveness percentages from departments around the country.
POLICE DEPARTMENT
EFFECTIVENESS RATE
Atlanta 67.8%
Charlotte-Mecklenburg 69.7%
Columbus 77.3%
Dallas 68.0%
Denver 73.6%
El Paso 79.5%
Fort Worth 62.4%
Houston 73.7%
Indianapolis 54.7%
Los Angeles 57.1%
New York 77.4%
Seattle 60.6
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/27/729922975/despite-widespread-use-police-rate-tasers-as-less-effective-than-believed#:~:text=Tasers%20had%20an%20%22instant%20incapacitation,99%25%20and%20even%20100%25.
I especially find Axon's claims that their tasers are more effective at stopping a violent perp than a .357 mag more than a little eyebrow raising.
The old lady has a hand held taser. Unless you get it on the bare skin it aint going to move a full grown man.
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Just an FYI.... wield means to use.
Really, just like that?...Well real world application would disagree. Many veterans of policing would probably laugh at your obviously uninformed statement. No malice intended just a bit of amusement at all too common armchair expertise.
Here are some real world taser effectiveness percentages from departments around the country.
POLICE DEPARTMENT
EFFECTIVENESS RATE
Atlanta 67.8%
Charlotte-Mecklenburg 69.7%
Columbus 77.3%
Dallas 68.0%
Denver 73.6%
El Paso 79.5%
Fort Worth 62.4%
Houston 73.7%
Indianapolis 54.7%
Los Angeles 57.1%
New York 77.4%
Seattle 60.6
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/27/729922975/despite-widespread-use-police-rate-tasers-as-less-effective-than-believed#:~:text=Tasers%20had%20an%20%22instant%20incapacitation,99%25%20and%20even%20100%25.
I especially find Axon's claims that their tasers are more effective at stopping a violent perp than a .357 mag more than a little eyebrow raising.
The report said he was tased twice. I believe that would increase his odds. But then he walks off with almost a strut to his step. He isn't in any obvious duress. That's why it's hard to believe they attempted to tase him with a police taser.
I've been tased. It's no joke. I was practicing with my ex husband who was a boarding officer for drug seizures with a taser he bought for me to have while he was deployed. He wouldn't keep a gun in the house because he was a cheater and knew I would have pulled it on him.
But I still don't think a taser misfiring is justified by shooting someone in the back 7x.
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The old lady has a hand held taser. Unless you get it on the bare skin it aint going to move a full grown man.
She must have bought a cheap one.
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Quote from: Murdock post_id=384080 time=1600987359 user_id=3229
Just an FYI.... wield means to use.
Really, just like that?...Well real world application would disagree. Many veterans of policing would probably laugh at your obviously uninformed statement. No malice intended just a bit of amusement at all too common armchair expertise.
Here are some real world taser effectiveness percentages from departments around the country.
POLICE DEPARTMENT
EFFECTIVENESS RATE
Atlanta 67.8%
Charlotte-Mecklenburg 69.7%
Columbus 77.3%
Dallas 68.0%
Denver 73.6%
El Paso 79.5%
Fort Worth 62.4%
Houston 73.7%
Indianapolis 54.7%
Los Angeles 57.1%
New York 77.4%
Seattle 60.6
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/27/729922975/despite-widespread-use-police-rate-tasers-as-less-effective-than-believed#:~:text=Tasers%20had%20an%20%22instant%20incapacitation,99%25%20and%20even%20100%25.
I especially find Axon's claims that their tasers are more effective at stopping a violent perp than a .357 mag more than a little eyebrow raising.
They fail that much?
ac_wot
Quote from: Murdock post_id=384080 time=1600987359 user_id=3229
Just an FYI.... wield means to use.
When someone gets tased they collapse or die. The cops claim they tased this guy 2x before he walked to his vehicle.
Jacob Blake did not have a knife on him when he was shot. The knife that he admitted to police as having was in the vehicle. The police officers were not wearing body cams. This footage was filmed by a person across the street (ignore the cops and focus on Blake):
https://youtu.be/NS5cSwVEyDg
Not true. People resist tasers all the time. They fail constantly. IVE been tased for fun.
There is also a second video of the incident from the other side.
A still shot shows the knife in his hand. Not shockingly, the text in this video completely blocked it.
Also, when police have guns drawn and are ordering you to stop and you continue, you have just became a threat to everyone's safety.
Arrests are not some optional thing.
This kind of coddled approach to criminal shits on the rights of law abiding citizens and the people we pay to keep us safe. Once he reached into his car, that's a wrap. He could have had a gun.
If he didnt want to get shot, he should have peacefully cooperated. Only a violent psychopath fights with police. The rest of normal, empathetic society that values our laws abides and fights in court.
People who riot or fight for the "rights" of violent criminals who fight and assault police during an arrest are enemies of law abiding Americans. They are not fighting for US. They are fighting for people who violate OUR rights to have an easier time raping and killing citizens.
If they really give a shit about minorities and innocent Americans they will stop attacking and trying to castrate the people we pay to keep our civilization peaceful and the ones who bring real justice when a drug addled abuser breaks into a woman's house and forcibly fingers her and tries to steal her car.....then assaults the cops trying to arrest him.
Urban law abiding residents HATE BLM. This is the modern day klan. They dont care about the gang violence and violent crime and they DONT want these vulnerable residents to even have police to protect them. Then they destroy a town and multiple peoples lives because they dont like how a rapist who fought police was treated.
Give me a break. What about the rights of citizens? What about the regular poor people who actually live in these areas? Let's roll out the red carpet for rapists and gang members to terrorize the residents and let them beat up or kill police if they dont want to be arrested.
We need to stop enabling and coddling violent criminals. Its already impossible for poor women to get restraining orders against abusers.....now people have destroyed a town because police didnt just let this shitbag grab a possible gun or take off with kids.
We either want cops to protect the public or we dont. What if that guy grabbed a gun and shot the cops and kids? At least his "rights" weren't violated? Fuck his rights. No one has a right to break in a woman's house and finger fuck her and no one has a right to assault police and ignore orders during a domestic violence arrest.
We are in trouble when this guy is more defended than his victims.
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Quote from: Murdock post_id=384080 time=1600987359 user_id=3229
Just an FYI.... wield means to use.
Really, just like that?...Well real world application would disagree. Many veterans of policing would probably laugh at your obviously uninformed statement. No malice intended just a bit of amusement at all too common armchair expertise.
Here are some real world taser effectiveness percentages from departments around the country.
POLICE DEPARTMENT
EFFECTIVENESS RATE
Atlanta 67.8%
Charlotte-Mecklenburg 69.7%
Columbus 77.3%
Dallas 68.0%
Denver 73.6%
El Paso 79.5%
Fort Worth 62.4%
Houston 73.7%
Indianapolis 54.7%
Los Angeles 57.1%
New York 77.4%
Seattle 60.6
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/27/729922975/despite-widespread-use-police-rate-tasers-as-less-effective-than-believed#:~:text=Tasers%20had%20an%20%22instant%20incapacitation,99%25%20and%20even%20100%25.
I especially find Axon's claims that their tasers are more effective at stopping a violent perp than a .357 mag more than a little eyebrow raising.
The report said he was tased twice. I believe that would increase his odds. But then he walks off with almost a strut to his step. He isn't in any obvious duress. That's why it's hard to believe they attempted to tase him with a police taser.
I've been tased. It's no joke. I was practicing with my ex husband who was a boarding officer for drug seizures with a taser he bought for me to have while he was deployed. He wouldn't keep a gun in the house because he was a cheater and knew I would have pulled it on him.
But I still don't think a taser misfiring is justified by shooting someone in the back 7x.
Ignoring orders and then reaching in the car IS. That absolutely IS a very solid reason to shoot this rapist piece of shit.
He was able to stop and put his hands on the car and peacefully comply. He chose to open the door and reach.
I just posted a video that shows how fast a gun can be grabbed from a car and police can be shot. He should not have reached into the car. Why should police put themselves and others in an even MORE dangerous situation in some fucked effort to make sure the rapist they are trying to arrest doesnt get a boo boo while violently resisting arrest?
BLM punishes innocent people because police enforce the laws that keep them safe. They hate regular law abiding citizens.
Murd watch this video.
https://youtu.be/SGq9hU0P1Bs
And pray tell Miss Murdy, how would you have handled it.
Don't forget you know his violent record, and he took the keys to the vehicle away from baby's mama. And especially don't forget there are kids in the vehicle.
Do you stand there and watch him kidnap the kids and drive off.
Do you intervene. How do you intervene?
What do you do?
There are multiple cases where the cops let the perpetrator grab something from his car...
That something turned out to be a gun... The cops got killed.
Here is an example why the perp is not allowed to go to his vehicle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Vr56V3YNMw
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And pray tell Miss Murdy, how would you have handled it.
Don't forget you know his violent record, and he took the keys to the vehicle away from baby's mama. And especially don't forget there are kids in the vehicle.
Do you stand there and watch him kidnap the kids and drive off.
Do you intervene. How do you intervene?
What do you do?
We ask people to put themselves in danger on a daily basis so we can live peacefully and have our rights to life and liberty preserved.
BLM wants to get rid of police and treat rapists and murders with more dignity than they treat innocent and vulnerable people.
They dont want justice. They want destruction, death and crime unfettered. They dont want justice for victims. They want to thwart justice and force police out of our society.
If police cannot protect themselves and the public.....what's the point?
No one riots or demands justice when a criminal brutalizes a law abiding citizen. They riot and hurt citizens if that violent criminal has force used on them.
They hate innocent people. They whole movement if pro crime, pro violence, pro rapist and anti law. Anti human rights. Anti peace.
I seriously hate them. I've never hated a group more than I fucking hate BLM/antifa.
As if people who live in high crime, poverty ridden areas dont have enough problems. They always want MORE police. So they can sit on their porch safely. Walk to the store safely. Know their kids will get to school and back safe. So if some drugged up rapist breaks into your home.. .you know police will get that shitbag and he wont be on the streets.
They cant even have THAT now. Because police try to protect the community.....this domestic terror group will destroy what little these communities DO have.
They have murdered children. Brutalized random black citizens. Killed 30 plus people. Destroyed businesses. Destroyed homes. Destroyed cars. Burnt down affordable housing. Burnt down shelters.
These people already had it rough. Now the communities are in shambles and families are grieving. All because police did their jobs.
BLM doesnt want justice or peace. It's a very literal sentiment.
I honestly hope the military wipes them out and charges these shitbag governors with treason. Fuck all those evil pieces of shit.
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There are multiple cases where the cops let the perpetrator grab something from his car...
That something turned out to be a gun... The cops got killed.
Here is an example why the perp is not allowed to go to his vehicle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Vr56V3YNMw
That's exactly what these groups want.
They hate us. They want violent criminals to brutalize and hurt law abiding citizens and receive specail rights and considerations. Their safety should be preserved above everyone elses.
There was a case recently involving a violent criminal who was allowed out of prison due to Corona. This was right after Rayshard and that officer getting charged with murder.
So this criminal was attacking an old lady, the cop drew a gun but didnt shoot(likely afraid to....the perp was black and look what happens to police who shoot black criminals) so the criminal hit the officer with a large rock, got the gun....shot and killed the cop AND the old lady.
He was brought in days later. But yanno....at least he is alive and not hurt, so that's a fucking relief. He murdered two innocent people to avoid his first attempted arrest....but yanno at least that cop didnt do anything to stop him...because his rights are more important than other peoples lives. We just need to get it through our heads that black violent criminals are more important than all of us, and deserve to be treated better than all of us. Even if they beat children. Cops can bring them in...but only if they agree because if they are black, sorry...no force may be used. Police have to allow them to grab weapons and kill innocent people. It's the new justice.
As law abiding citizens we are worthless dogshit whose rights are not as valuable as the rights black criminals have that allow them to hurt and murder others and be unharmed.
Like 8 year old Secorea Turner. The one shot by a BLM shitbag. She wasnt a criminal so her life is dogshit. Her murderer is still out there. Probably burning down a black owned business for Breonna Taylor in KY. They dont care.
Can you tell I hate these terrorists?
Yanno when inner city outreaches need help helping the community.....they are nowhere to be found. They just show up to destroy.
Quote from: kiebers post_id=384150 time=1601052422 user_id=193
And pray tell Miss Murdy, how would you have handled it.
Don't forget you know his violent record, and he took the keys to the vehicle away from baby's mama. And especially don't forget there are kids in the vehicle.
Do you stand there and watch him kidnap the kids and drive off.
Do you intervene. How do you intervene?
What do you do?
I can't keep track of the latest sources of BLM anger.
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I seriously hate them. I've never hated a group more than I fucking hate BLM/antifa.
I understand and feel similar toward them
They are deadly and need eradication which should have happened long ago in Ferguson when the mayor called off the cops and encouraged the mto hurt people, burn and destroy .. thereby ending it all before it started
That said, they exist only because mayors and councils refuse to do their duty, rather prefer to help them by allowing them to run wild , and worse, to grow larger and more dangerous and destructive
The real perps to hate are those elected to protect their cities but choose instead to allow them to riot and thus encourage them
If mayors and councils were nor sympathetic and did their job, these perps would not exist
Just wondered. Who is"Dovey"?
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Just an FYI.... wield means to use.
Really, just like that?...Well real world application would disagree. Many veterans of policing would probably laugh at your obviously uninformed statement. No malice intended just a bit of amusement at all too common armchair expertise.
Here are some real world taser effectiveness percentages from departments around the country.
POLICE DEPARTMENT
EFFECTIVENESS RATE
Atlanta 67.8%
Charlotte-Mecklenburg 69.7%
Columbus 77.3%
Dallas 68.0%
Denver 73.6%
El Paso 79.5%
Fort Worth 62.4%
Houston 73.7%
Indianapolis 54.7%
Los Angeles 57.1%
New York 77.4%
Seattle 60.6
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/27/729922975/despite-widespread-use-police-rate-tasers-as-less-effective-than-believed#:~:text=Tasers%20had%20an%20%22instant%20incapacitation,99%25%20and%20even%20100%25.
I especially find Axon's claims that their tasers are more effective at stopping a violent perp than a .357 mag more than a little eyebrow raising.
The report said he was tased twice. I believe that would increase his odds. But then he walks off with almost a strut to his step. He isn't in any obvious duress. That's why it's hard to believe they attempted to tase him with a police taser.
I've been tased. It's no joke. I was practicing with my ex husband who was a boarding officer for drug seizures with a taser he bought for me to have while he was deployed. He wouldn't keep a gun in the house because he was a cheater and knew I would have pulled it on him.
But I still don't think a taser misfiring is justified by shooting someone in the back 7x.
Ignoring orders and then reaching in the car IS. That absolutely IS a very solid reason to shoot this rapist piece of shit.
He was able to stop and put his hands on the car and peacefully comply. He chose to open the door and reach.
I just posted a video that shows how fast a gun can be grabbed from a car and police can be shot. He should not have reached into the car. Why should police put themselves and others in an even MORE dangerous situation in some fucked effort to make sure the rapist they are trying to arrest doesnt get a boo boo while violently resisting arrest?
BLM punishes innocent people because police enforce the laws that keep them safe. They hate regular law abiding citizens.
You are barbaric ac_toofunny
He was charged with 3rd degree sexual assault of an adult, which means she was drunk and probably had one night stand remorse when she woke up and saw his dirty apartment.
But yes... let's have the police kill him in the streets instead of dragging him into court and through the judicial system and put him in jail where he belongs.
No, better yet let's cut corners so this piece of garbage can lawyer up and sue the city so the tax payers pay for his way through life.
Quote from: kiebers post_id=384150 time=1601052422 user_id=193
And pray tell Miss Murdy, how would you have handled it.
Don't forget you know his violent record, and he took the keys to the vehicle away from baby's mama. And especially don't forget there are kids in the vehicle.
Do you stand there and watch him kidnap the kids and drive off.
Do you intervene. How do you intervene?
What do you do?
It's an impossibility for a biological father to kidnap his children unless he was trying to board an airplane or take them across state lines without the mother's permission.
I would have let him grab the knife. Then I would send him to meet his maker.
If he just got in the vehicle and attempted to drive away, I would have shot out the tires. He wouldn't get very far like that. Plus he is racking up substantial charges.
Quote from: Odinson post_id=384151 time=1601054474 user_id=136
There are multiple cases where the cops let the perpetrator grab something from his car...
That something turned out to be a gun... The cops got killed.
Here is an example why the perp is not allowed to go to his vehicle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Vr56V3YNMw
These are very unfortunate circumstances, but to deem everyone guilty until proven innocent hardly seems justified.
So you want to endanger everyone because a cop is afraid of getting shot with a bullet proof vest on?
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Just an FYI.... wield means to use.
Really, just like that?...Well real world application would disagree. Many veterans of policing would probably laugh at your obviously uninformed statement. No malice intended just a bit of amusement at all too common armchair expertise.
Here are some real world taser effectiveness percentages from departments around the country.
POLICE DEPARTMENT
EFFECTIVENESS RATE
Atlanta 67.8%
Charlotte-Mecklenburg 69.7%
Columbus 77.3%
Dallas 68.0%
Denver 73.6%
El Paso 79.5%
Fort Worth 62.4%
Houston 73.7%
Indianapolis 54.7%
Los Angeles 57.1%
New York 77.4%
Seattle 60.6
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/27/729922975/despite-widespread-use-police-rate-tasers-as-less-effective-than-believed#:~:text=Tasers%20had%20an%20%22instant%20incapacitation,99%25%20and%20even%20100%25.
I especially find Axon's claims that their tasers are more effective at stopping a violent perp than a .357 mag more than a little eyebrow raising.
The report said he was tased twice. I believe that would increase his odds. But then he walks off with almost a strut to his step. He isn't in any obvious duress. That's why it's hard to believe they attempted to tase him with a police taser.
I've been tased. It's no joke. I was practicing with my ex husband who was a boarding officer for drug seizures with a taser he bought for me to have while he was deployed. He wouldn't keep a gun in the house because he was a cheater and knew I would have pulled it on him.
But I still don't think a taser misfiring is justified by shooting someone in the back 7x.
Ignoring orders and then reaching in the car IS. That absolutely IS a very solid reason to shoot this rapist piece of shit.
He was able to stop and put his hands on the car and peacefully comply. He chose to open the door and reach.
I just posted a video that shows how fast a gun can be grabbed from a car and police can be shot. He should not have reached into the car. Why should police put themselves and others in an even MORE dangerous situation in some fucked effort to make sure the rapist they are trying to arrest doesnt get a boo boo while violently resisting arrest?
BLM punishes innocent people because police enforce the laws that keep them safe. They hate regular law abiding citizens.
Ignoring an order? Is he enlisted in the military?
You can't even prove he was under arrest when he walked back to his car.
Black Lives Matter = save us money ac_wub
BLM wants to end systematic racism. For every black man shot by police, let's presume:
The cop who shoot this guy will be retired with full pensions that the city pays for (worth about $50,000 per year for life). A trial for a police shooting on duty will cost the city $600,000+. The suspect could be awarded in upwards of $1-$44 million dollars.
Welcome to tort law and liability boys and girls... you might want to rethink your politics.
Quote from: Murdock post_id=384171 time=1601070589 user_id=3229
BLM wants to end systematic racism. For every black man shot by police, let's presume:
The cop who shoot this guy will be retired with full pensions that the city pays for (worth about $50,000 per year for life). A trial for a police shooting on duty will cost the city $600,000+. The suspect could be awarded in upwards of $1-$44 million dollars.
Welcome to tort law and liability boys and girls... you might want to rethink your politics.
So they only care about the dozen or so unarmed black guys shot by cops each year. Out of what, forty five million blacks in your country, this is an issue of importance.
I agree with Candace Owens. If you look at all the challenges facing black Americans, police shooting unarmed blacks or whites doesn't make the top 100.
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Quote from: Murdock post_id=384080 time=1600987359 user_id=3229
Just an FYI.... wield means to use.
Really, just like that?...Well real world application would disagree. Many veterans of policing would probably laugh at your obviously uninformed statement. No malice intended just a bit of amusement at all too common armchair expertise.
Here are some real world taser effectiveness percentages from departments around the country.
POLICE DEPARTMENT
EFFECTIVENESS RATE
Atlanta 67.8%
Charlotte-Mecklenburg 69.7%
Columbus 77.3%
Dallas 68.0%
Denver 73.6%
El Paso 79.5%
Fort Worth 62.4%
Houston 73.7%
Indianapolis 54.7%
Los Angeles 57.1%
New York 77.4%
Seattle 60.6
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/27/729922975/despite-widespread-use-police-rate-tasers-as-less-effective-than-believed#:~:text=Tasers%20had%20an%20%22instant%20incapacitation,99%25%20and%20even%20100%25.
I especially find Axon's claims that their tasers are more effective at stopping a violent perp than a .357 mag more than a little eyebrow raising.
The report said he was tased twice. I believe that would increase his odds. But then he walks off with almost a strut to his step. He isn't in any obvious duress. That's why it's hard to believe they attempted to tase him with a police taser.
I've been tased. It's no joke. I was practicing with my ex husband who was a boarding officer for drug seizures with a taser he bought for me to have while he was deployed. He wouldn't keep a gun in the house because he was a cheater and knew I would have pulled it on him.
But I still don't think a taser misfiring is justified by shooting someone in the back 7x.
Ignoring orders and then reaching in the car IS. That absolutely IS a very solid reason to shoot this rapist piece of shit.
He was able to stop and put his hands on the car and peacefully comply. He chose to open the door and reach.
I just posted a video that shows how fast a gun can be grabbed from a car and police can be shot. He should not have reached into the car. Why should police put themselves and others in an even MORE dangerous situation in some fucked effort to make sure the rapist they are trying to arrest doesnt get a boo boo while violently resisting arrest?
BLM punishes innocent people because police enforce the laws that keep them safe. They hate regular law abiding citizens.
Ignoring an order? Is he enlisted in the military?
You can't even prove he was under arrest when he walked back to his car.
He was resisting his arrest. He was in the process of being arrest. He had an active warrant for sexual assault and domestic violence. He broke into that woman's house. He took her keys. He was trying to take her children.
So when police are arresting us, we have the right to fuck it off and ignore them?
Okay so they should have just let this guy take off with kids and everyone could have just prayed about it and waited until the bodies turned up somewhere or he dumped them off? Or they should have waited to see if he was gonna grab a gun and start shooting?
Quote from: Murdock post_id=384171 time=1601070589 user_id=3229
BLM wants to end systematic racism. For every black man shot by police, let's presume:
The cop who shoot this guy will be retired with full pensions that the city pays for (worth about $50,000 per year for life). A trial for a police shooting on duty will cost the city $600,000+. The suspect could be awarded in upwards of $1-$44 million dollars.
Welcome to tort law and liability boys and girls... you might want to rethink your politics.
I stopped voting for democrat policies a long time ago.
These issues only happen in democrat ran cities.
It's not systemic racism to shoot criminals who are resisting arrest.
It is a form of racism to expect poor black communities to have little to no police intervention or allow just black violent criminals decide for themselves if they should be arrested.
If BLM is so concerned about black lives why are they silent on the 30 plus people their riots have killed....and the black children their supporters have shot and why are they devastating minority communities.....creating conditions that drive poverty and violent crime?
We may as well just get rid of police. Wall off the inner cities and let the strong survive then.
I just dont understand the level of hatred it takes to hand vulnerable people over....who cannot afford to leave....to be raped, brutalized and murdered. Because fight more for rapists, abusers and brutalizers than they do for anything.
Maybe eventually the communities will just agree to lay there and get shot and raped and promise not to call police ever. Then BLM can leave them alone.....assured in the knowledge that they are willing to be abused and stay as poor as possible. Just leave the gangs alone and let the violence and trafficking take care of the poor.
No more police to walk children to school. Buy school supplies. Help elderly with food and medical expenses. Help drug addicts get help. Protect community centers(several of which BLM burnt down). No one to stop a violent domestic abuser from running off with children.
It's just so sick and sad how poor people and poor minorities are treated as props for the personal satisfaction of others to feel good about themselves....no matter how damaging the cause.
None of these people care about these communities or the human beings...of any color, who live there.
Don't invest too much time arguing with leftists, Dove...
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Don't invest too much time arguing with leftists, Dove...
I'm in a few community groups on socail media. One is aftercare group for the outreach I was in and involves women in the inner city community there and in the program. Then I'm a community group for Flint.
People were scared that police were gonna have to shoot a criminal who happens to be black, and then these "protests" were gonna kick off and Whitmer would let our cities be destroyed.
They say "we are one dead crack head/gang banger away from our community being destroyed". A few have plans in case it comes there to flee. People are afraid of losing jobs with that combo of Corona and rioting.
What people fail to understand is that those who live in these communities are surviving. And the riots and looting rips that away from them. They dont always cars. They dont always have much money saved.
That affordable housing complex that was destroyed likely had a waiting list of poor single moms, people with nonviolent felonies who cant get leases....very disadvantaged people who just had a very important resource taken away.
How do you think it feels to be a mother whose child was shot and killed by BLM, burying your baby, and watching this violent movement get embraced as racail justice? How degrading and insulting and painful must that be? And this movement calls itself "black LIVES matter"? While your baby was disposable garbage to them and the mainstream that supports them?
Any family who is grieving the senseless murder of their loved one. Or the people who are on the streets due to shelters being wrecked? Or the small business owner who was already barely hanging on? Or a single parent who was relying on the check out job to survive?
They are killing our most vulnerable citizens literally and economically. I grew up in Metro Detroit around mostly minorities and we were poor. Surviving is hard enough. And police are so important in these areas. It's literally the only thing that keeps them somewhat safe.....because poverty drives crime.
If they remove police from schools, a lot of kids are fucked out of their already substandard education. We will just these areas get more violent, more drugs, more trafficking and more domestic abuse and rape.
I really fully believe anyone who supports this should go rent a small duplex apartment in those areas so they can see for themselves how important police are to the direct safety and well being of the residents and ask themselves if they were in that woman's position....would they want their violent domestic abuser taking off with their babies. That woman he abused was black. What about her? Her rights? Her justice? It's already very hard to get protection from abusive men and very hard to get justice if you were raped. Now BLM wants it even harder- and to put innocent people at risk so they dont hurt the scumbag fighting the arrest.
BLM is enmeshed with abusers, rapists and child rapists. It's a pro violent crime organization. If you look up their "leaders" a good amount were charged with abuse and sex offenses. Women that were involved have talked about the abuse. Charles Wade was a human trafficker.
Imagine being a community volunteer who has worked in one of those communities for years....worked to provide shelter, community centers, et....only to have these assholes destroy it, and not even offer a single cent of those billions of dollars they have received to restore any of it. They are terrorists. Absolute monsters.
Murds not really leftists. ..nor is she rightist either.
I've ranted on this enough.
I'm just so tired of it. It really needs to be stopped. When it's all said and done, residents in these areas are gonna need a lot of help. Lots of opportunities for volunteer work and donations. I will NEVER donate to democrats ever ever again.
Brandon Tatum raised money directly for Secorea Turners family....we gave to that....but no more organizations that are political. I'm so horrified this shit even allowed to get this bad.
I hope if these shitbag governors defund or remove police ....there will be those who organize to help the elderly and people with children move the fuck away from there.
The shift across the political spectrum has been left. Republicans are the new Democrats, Democrats the new National Socialists, Alt Right the new old Republicans... Libertarians are the only ones who've stayed true...
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The shift across the political spectrum has been left. Republicans are the new Democrats, Democrats the new National Socialists, Alt Right the new old Republicans... Libertarians are the only ones who've stayed true...
I havent changed much except that now I can never support the democrats ever again after the past....well...8 years. I voted for Obama, but he was absolutely awful.
I didnt vote at all his second term. All this anti police racail division and hatred really blossomed under him. Race started to become weaponized against us while he was in office.
If the media was reporting objectively and honestly and all the things police do in these communities was known, and incidents like Blake's and Taylor's were reported honestly.... rather than twisted to fuel division and riots, people would see a much different picture of our country. A real one.
The Blake incident could have been reported for what it was. Color isnt even important here. It should have been "Man fights police during an arrest on domestic abuse warrant, gets shot after reaching into car" which is exactly what happened. But instead we "Black man shot in the back 7 times by police". And riots are fueled and a town destroyed. Our racail division is manufactured for that reason....to divide us and help politicains get votes.
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It is truly awe inspiring.
They have courage and I salute them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSVTg6wvs1I
I'm just so glad and relief there are still many Black folks that don't buy into this BLM movement.
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Quote from: "Biggie Smiles" post_id=383854 time=1600881801 user_id=3214
It is truly awe inspiring.
They have courage and I salute them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSVTg6wvs1I
I'm just so glad and relief there are still many Black folks that don't buy into this BLM movement.
Leslyn Lewis is one of them.
"How would you feel?"
"Imagine there is a man who, for the last five years, has assaulted you, on average, two times a year. He has raped you in the past. Then, he shows up at your house at 4:00 in the morning. You wake up to find him standing above you, you have your child in bed with you. He has his 'junk' out and then he sexually assaults you. He leaves the room, you quiet your child and go into the living room. He is gone. You look out the window and your car is gone. You check your purse, your keys and ATM card are gone. You call the cops. Cops show up. As you cry, you describe the sexual assault. The cops tell you this man has withdrawn money from your bank account twice in the last several minutes. Okay, are you 'imagining' all that? Well, then imagine this. The guy who sexually assaulted you has received over TWO MILLION from a 'GoFundMe' account. NFL players, such as Drew Brees, have your rapist's name on his helmet. MLB baseball players walk off the field to support your rapist. Vice Presidential candidate Kamala Harris said she was proud of him. EVERY THING I JUST TYPED IS FACT! It comes from the police report on the Jacob Blake incident. We have professional sports figures celebrating a friggin' rapist!
I just read this on socail media. It's TRUE and it's disgusting.:/
Progtard money against the people Dove.
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Quote from: Zetsu post_id=384183 time=1601078379 user_id=61
Quote from: "Biggie Smiles" post_id=383854 time=1600881801 user_id=3214
It is truly awe inspiring.
They have courage and I salute them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSVTg6wvs1I
I'm just so glad and relief there are still many Black folks that don't buy into this BLM movement.
Leslyn Lewis is one of them.
I didn't knew she was Canadian, which makes it even better. ac_drinks
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Quote from: Zetsu post_id=384183 time=1601078379 user_id=61
Quote from: "Biggie Smiles" post_id=383854 time=1600881801 user_id=3214
It is truly awe inspiring.
They have courage and I salute them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSVTg6wvs1I
I'm just so glad and relief there are still many Black folks that don't buy into this BLM movement.
Leslyn Lewis is one of them.
I didn't knew she was Canadian, which makes it even better. ac_drinks
She was a candidate for leadership of the Conservative Party of Canada.
Quote from: Dove post_id=384254 time=1601126958 user_id=3266
"How would you feel?"
"Imagine there is a man who, for the last five years, has assaulted you, on average, two times a year. He has raped you in the past. Then, he shows up at your house at 4:00 in the morning. You wake up to find him standing above you, you have your child in bed with you. He has his 'junk' out and then he sexually assaults you. He leaves the room, you quiet your child and go into the living room. He is gone. You look out the window and your car is gone. You check your purse, your keys and ATM card are gone. You call the cops. Cops show up. As you cry, you describe the sexual assault. The cops tell you this man has withdrawn money from your bank account twice in the last several minutes. Okay, are you 'imagining' all that? Well, then imagine this. The guy who sexually assaulted you has received over TWO MILLION from a 'GoFundMe' account. NFL players, such as Drew Brees, have your rapist's name on his helmet. MLB baseball players walk off the field to support your rapist. Vice Presidential candidate Kamala Harris said she was proud of him. EVERY THING I JUST TYPED IS FACT! It comes from the police report on the Jacob Blake incident. We have professional sports figures celebrating a friggin' rapist!
I just read this on socail media. It's TRUE and it's disgusting.:/
So much for #metoo
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Quote from: Dove post_id=384254 time=1601126958 user_id=3266
"How would you feel?"
"Imagine there is a man who, for the last five years, has assaulted you, on average, two times a year. He has raped you in the past. Then, he shows up at your house at 4:00 in the morning. You wake up to find him standing above you, you have your child in bed with you. He has his 'junk' out and then he sexually assaults you. He leaves the room, you quiet your child and go into the living room. He is gone. You look out the window and your car is gone. You check your purse, your keys and ATM card are gone. You call the cops. Cops show up. As you cry, you describe the sexual assault. The cops tell you this man has withdrawn money from your bank account twice in the last several minutes. Okay, are you 'imagining' all that? Well, then imagine this. The guy who sexually assaulted you has received over TWO MILLION from a 'GoFundMe' account. NFL players, such as Drew Brees, have your rapist's name on his helmet. MLB baseball players walk off the field to support your rapist. Vice Presidential candidate Kamala Harris said she was proud of him. EVERY THING I JUST TYPED IS FACT! It comes from the police report on the Jacob Blake incident. We have professional sports figures celebrating a friggin' rapist!
I just read this on socail media. It's TRUE and it's disgusting.:/
So much for #metoo
Oh my.
How are the angry little misfits at Creepy Biden Turds doing?
Have they managed to shut you guys down yet?
Quote from: "Biggie Smiles" post_id=384304 time=1601167953 user_id=3214
How are the angry little misfits at Creepy Biden Turds doing?
Have they managed to shut you guys down yet?
lol, no.
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Quote from: "Biggie Smiles" post_id=384304 time=1601167953 user_id=3214
How are the angry little misfits at Creepy Biden Turds doing?
Have they managed to shut you guys down yet?
lol, no.
Lol. You mean your host just ignored the weeping little musings of some degenerate drug addict?
Lol
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Quote from: "Biggie Smiles" post_id=384304 time=1601167953 user_id=3214
How are the angry little misfits at Creepy Biden Turds doing?
Have they managed to shut you guys down yet?
lol, no.
Lol. You mean your host just ignored the weeping little musings of some degenerate drug addict?
Lol
They said nothing to me so, I guess they ignored him.
:laugh:
For fucks sake...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJav36Nbn58
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For fucks sake...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJav36Nbn58
Do you see why I hate corporations and the mega-rich.
I watched a video where they interviewed people from Kenya, Chile, Nigeria, UK, USA on their opinion on the cops..
Big surprise..
The Americans and the British bitched the most... Even though they had the least to complain about.
When talking about police arrests..
These assholes seem to be ignoring the fact that some ethnic groups are more likely to do crimes.
They are flabbergasted when the stats show that more black people get arrested...
Like O-M-G... It must be a white supremacist conspiracy.
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When talking about police arrests..
These assholes seem to be ignoring the fact that some ethnic groups are more likely to do crimes.
They are flabbergasted when the stats show that more black people get arrested...
Like O-M-G... It must be a white supremacist conspiracy.
In the US, black on white crime is something like ten times higher than the other way around.
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Quote from: Odinson post_id=385101 time=1601589401 user_id=136
When talking about police arrests..
These assholes seem to be ignoring the fact that some ethnic groups are more likely to do crimes.
They are flabbergasted when the stats show that more black people get arrested...
Like O-M-G... It must be a white supremacist conspiracy.
In the US, black on white crime is something like ten times higher than the other way around.
Yes they are killing or otherwise attacking white folks all the time.. Other races as well.
Everybody lose their mind over one dead negro..
Whites are killing black folks..
Everything is so fucking distorted nowadays.
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Quote from: Herman post_id=385121 time=1601596896 user_id=1689
Quote from: Odinson post_id=385101 time=1601589401 user_id=136
When talking about police arrests..
These assholes seem to be ignoring the fact that some ethnic groups are more likely to do crimes.
They are flabbergasted when the stats show that more black people get arrested...
Like O-M-G... It must be a white supremacist conspiracy.
In the US, black on white crime is something like ten times higher than the other way around.
We are talking about the US. Up is down, riots are peaceful protests, Trump's manufacturing job gains are losses and Antifa is not a domestic terror group.
Yes they are killing or otherwise attacking white folks all the time.. Other races as well.
Everybody lose their mind over one dead negro..
Whites are killing black folks..
Everything is so fucking distorted nowadays.
Actor Rick Moranis randomly sucker punched by a representative of the "victims and sheet" race.
We must be tolerant... His great great great great great grand baby-daddy was a slave and sheet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXrA-YlSUP8
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Actor Rick Moranis randomly sucker punched by a representative of the "victims and sheet" race.
We must be tolerant... His great great great great great grand baby-daddy was a slave and sheet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXrA-YlSUP8
This kind of madness happens all the time. The only reason this is news worthy is that it happened to a celebutard.
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Quote from: Odinson post_id=385493 time=1601774161 user_id=136
Actor Rick Moranis randomly sucker punched by a representative of the "victims and sheet" race.
We must be tolerant... His great great great great great grand baby-daddy was a slave and sheet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXrA-YlSUP8
This kind of madness happens all the time. The only reason this is news worthy is that it happened to a celebutard.
That is part of it, but it was also caught on video.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUfqLD_Q1q8[/media]
Damn, I like Candace Owens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PMxXIpCgDs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvizokNR_s8
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PMxXIpCgDs
Riots to follow.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PMxXIpCgDs
ac_wot
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Quote from: Murdock post_id=384171 time=1601070589 user_id=3229
BLM wants to end systematic racism. For every black man shot by police, let's presume:
The cop who shoot this guy will be retired with full pensions that the city pays for (worth about $50,000 per year for life). A trial for a police shooting on duty will cost the city $600,000+. The suspect could be awarded in upwards of $1-$44 million dollars.
Welcome to tort law and liability boys and girls... you might want to rethink your politics.
I stopped voting for democrat policies a long time ago.
These issues only happen in democrat ran cities.
It's not systemic racism to shoot criminals who are resisting arrest.
It is a form of racism to expect poor black communities to have little to no police intervention or allow just black violent criminals decide for themselves if they should be arrested.
If BLM is so concerned about black lives why are they silent on the 30 plus people their riots have killed....and the black children their supporters have shot and why are they devastating minority communities.....creating conditions that drive poverty and violent crime?
We may as well just get rid of police. Wall off the inner cities and let the strong survive then.
I just dont understand the level of hatred it takes to hand vulnerable people over....who cannot afford to leave....to be raped, brutalized and murdered. Because fight more for rapists, abusers and brutalizers than they do for anything.
Maybe eventually the communities will just agree to lay there and get shot and raped and promise not to call police ever. Then BLM can leave them alone.....assured in the knowledge that they are willing to be abused and stay as poor as possible. Just leave the gangs alone and let the violence and trafficking take care of the poor.
No more police to walk children to school. Buy school supplies. Help elderly with food and medical expenses. Help drug addicts get help. Protect community centers(several of which BLM burnt down). No one to stop a violent domestic abuser from running off with children.
It's just so sick and sad how poor people and poor minorities are treated as props for the personal satisfaction of others to feel good about themselves....no matter how damaging the cause.
None of these people care about these communities or the human beings...of any color, who live there.
I'm fighting for what will be the least detrimental to society and simultaneously the most economically feasible for the community.
Your issue is with Antifa. BLM isn't pushing a violent agenda and your ideologies about them are preconceived and convoluted by the media. You have had zero involvement with BLM.
I'm not sure why anyone would be ok with the police playing judge/jury/executioner in the streets... that inevitably puts us ALL in danger... but it's also going to cost us millions of dollars that we simply do not have to waste on retiring a cop early and paying out hefty settlements for catastrophic injuries sustained during very questionable situations that will inevitably require a jury trial and a settlement award... when if the cop did their job correctly, the "criminal" would face charges and sentencing by the court. No, I want a man who goes to police academy for 6 months to make these major and permanently life altering decisions for us. Yeah, right.
It costs more money to incarcerate a man than it would to college educate him.... now there is a BLM message to ponder.
You're as quick to assume a black man is a criminal as you are to defend the socioeconomic class of female that is feeding the poverty/crime portion of society by making abortion illegal. Save the baby so it can be murdered in the streets by police as an adult on national television while we all watch and cheer on the police. It's pure savagery.
Bullshit / Blabber
BLM is commie at it's core and no different in its violent actions than antifa.
The only difference is that antifa are all violent and BLM uses a pre-planned mixture of non violent "protesters" :001_rolleyes: as cover for the designated violent ones
In fact it is more deadly as it is more more organized than antifa + has its own cover as above
Obviously those right wing Proud Boy goofs do more illegal activity than blm and antifa combined. Retarded weaklings.
:001_rolleyes:
Quote from: Edward post_id=386261 time=1602375788
Obviously those right wing Proud Boy goofs do more illegal activity than blm and antifa combined. Retarded weaklings.
The Proud Boys' leader is black. You Indians have nothing to fear from them. It's those two faced white progs in antifa that will throw your redman ass under the bus.
Quote from: Dove post_id=384182 time=1601078038 user_id=3266
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=384181 time=1601076885 user_id=1676
The shift across the political spectrum has been left. Republicans are the new Democrats, Democrats the new National Socialists, Alt Right the new old Republicans... Libertarians are the only ones who've stayed true...
I havent changed much except that now I can never support the democrats ever again after the past....well...8 years. I voted for Obama, but he was absolutely awful.
I didnt vote at all his second term. All this anti police racail division and hatred really blossomed under him. Race started to become weaponized against us while he was in office.
If the media was reporting objectively and honestly and all the things police do in these communities was known, and incidents like Blake's and Taylor's were reported honestly.... rather than twisted to fuel division and riots, people would see a much different picture of our country. A real one.
The Blake incident could have been reported for what it was. Color isnt even important here. It should have been "Man fights police during an arrest on domestic abuse warrant, gets shot after reaching into car" which is exactly what happened. But instead we "Black man shot in the back 7 times by police". And riots are fueled and a town destroyed. Our racail division is manufactured for that reason....to divide us and help politicains get votes.
Reported honestly? The police are not allowed to release information on these cases to the media due to privacy laws. You get the bits and pieces that they collect from the witnesses and you have no experience with law, due process or due diligence required to determine cases like this.
That black man who got shot in the back had 3 kids in his car... but let's support making abortion illegal so every time a rapist criminal impregnates someone she HAS to have the baby.
You're ideologies are based solely on a political agenda and are devoid of logic or solution to this epidemic that is plaguing society.
I called it on Trollvalhalla after the Treyvon Martin murder.... it is going to be open season on black men in America now and you're crying about cities being destroyed. I forewarned that this was a DANGEROUS president to set. Historically, riots have followed police brutality against the black community since 1935 and you are backing modern day lynchings of black men by the police in the street while simultaneously speaking out against Antifa.
A murder without a trial is a lynching and I don't blame them for rioting. They have rights in this country too.
Quote from: Murdock post_id=386820 time=1602696188 user_id=3229
Quote from: Dove post_id=384182 time=1601078038 user_id=3266
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=384181 time=1601076885 user_id=1676
The shift across the political spectrum has been left. Republicans are the new Democrats, Democrats the new National Socialists, Alt Right the new old Republicans... Libertarians are the only ones who've stayed true...
I havent changed much except that now I can never support the democrats ever again after the past....well...8 years. I voted for Obama, but he was absolutely awful.
I didnt vote at all his second term. All this anti police racail division and hatred really blossomed under him. Race started to become weaponized against us while he was in office.
If the media was reporting objectively and honestly and all the things police do in these communities was known, and incidents like Blake's and Taylor's were reported honestly.... rather than twisted to fuel division and riots, people would see a much different picture of our country. A real one.
The Blake incident could have been reported for what it was. Color isnt even important here. It should have been "Man fights police during an arrest on domestic abuse warrant, gets shot after reaching into car" which is exactly what happened. But instead we "Black man shot in the back 7 times by police". And riots are fueled and a town destroyed. Our racail division is manufactured for that reason....to divide us and help politicains get votes.
That black man who got shot in the back had 3 kids in his car...
Fuck him. I'd have aimed for his head and emptied the clip. I don't give the first fuck who he had in the car at the time
if I'm a police officer making 60K a year to put my life on the line his ass better listen to every instruction I give him in a hostile situation or I most certainly will put him in the ground without a second thought.
Fuck that. Fuck him, his life, his family and anyone who thinks it's a crime. My primary objective is to get home to my family and I'll kill 500 jacob blakes if that's what it takes to ensure my own safety. it has nothing to do with skin color.
I tell my black friends and girlfriend the same exact thing and they unanimously agree they'd do the same. Any sane human being would
This is why I could never be a police officer. Putting your life on the line everyday for a bunch of ungrateful snobs who'll turn on you and monday morning quarterback in a flash is not my idea of a prudent career choice.
Especially when you get paid peanuts to do it.
Police work is a calling, and it's not for most people..
My brother loves his career in the RCMP.
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=386861 time=1602707457 user_id=3254
Police work is a calling, and it's not for most people..
My brother loves his career in the RCMP.
I'm far too selfish to enjoy doing work like that for unappreciative slacks who would seek to judge me when they haven't walked a minute in my shoes.
Quote from: "Biggie Smiles" post_id=386858 time=1602707087 user_id=3214
Quote from: Murdock post_id=386820 time=1602696188 user_id=3229
Quote from: Dove post_id=384182 time=1601078038 user_id=3266
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=384181 time=1601076885 user_id=1676
The shift across the political spectrum has been left. Republicans are the new Democrats, Democrats the new National Socialists, Alt Right the new old Republicans... Libertarians are the only ones who've stayed true...
I havent changed much except that now I can never support the democrats ever again after the past....well...8 years. I voted for Obama, but he was absolutely awful.
I didnt vote at all his second term. All this anti police racail division and hatred really blossomed under him. Race started to become weaponized against us while he was in office.
If the media was reporting objectively and honestly and all the things police do in these communities was known, and incidents like Blake's and Taylor's were reported honestly.... rather than twisted to fuel division and riots, people would see a much different picture of our country. A real one.
The Blake incident could have been reported for what it was. Color isnt even important here. It should have been "Man fights police during an arrest on domestic abuse warrant, gets shot after reaching into car" which is exactly what happened. But instead we "Black man shot in the back 7 times by police". And riots are fueled and a town destroyed. Our racail division is manufactured for that reason....to divide us and help politicains get votes.
That black man who got shot in the back had 3 kids in his car...
Fuck him. I'd have aimed for his head and emptied the clip. I don't give the first fuck who he had in the car at the time
if I'm a police officer making 60K a year to put my life on the line his ass better listen to every instruction I give him in a hostile situation or I most certainly will put him in the ground without a second thought.
Fuck that. Fuck him, his life, his family and anyone who thinks it's a crime. My primary objective is to get home to my family and I'll kill 500 jacob blakes if that's what it takes to ensure my own safety. it has nothing to do with skin color.
I tell my black friends and girlfriend the same exact thing and they unanimously agree they'd do the same. Any sane human being would
This is why I could never be a police officer. Putting your life on the line everyday for a bunch of ungrateful snobs who'll turn on you and monday morning quarterback in a flash is not my idea of a prudent career choice.
Especially when you get paid peanuts to do it.
So you want me to pay to retire you permanently because you're scared to do your job and cut corners and then have him lawyer up and go after the city for a multi-million dollar settlement or his family for a wrongful death claim. Got it.
But let's be Republicans and re-elect our totalitarian dictator into office amid rape allegations.
Should the police be able to shoot Donald in the back seven times now, Dove?
Quote from: Murdock post_id=386882 time=1602718163 user_id=3229
But let's be Republicans and re-elect our totalitarian dictator into office amid rape allegations.
Should the police be able to shoot Donald in the back seven times now, Dove?
We have a totalitarian dictator for a prime minister. You will know what that is like when Jim Crow Joe and the progtard shills control your entire federal government.
Quote from: Herman post_id=386883 time=1602718459 user_id=1689
Quote from: Murdock post_id=386882 time=1602718163 user_id=3229
But let's be Republicans and re-elect our totalitarian dictator into office amid rape allegations.
Should the police be able to shoot Donald in the back seven times now, Dove?
We have a totalitarian dictator for a prime minister. You will know what that is like when Jim Crow Joe and the progtard shills control your entire federal government.
Our country is going to burn to the ground after the cops in the George Floyd murder and acquitted.... all because a black kid wearing a black hoodie walked through a gated HOA community with a pack of skittles and that stupid fat fuck Zimmerman wanted to play police officer.
I'm of British descent and can be granted dual citizenship effective immediately and will be moving there when it does.
We've got a bazillion dollars to build walls and have endless wars in the Middle East, but can't end the poverty that is causing the crime in this country. One permanently divided nation of dumb fucks under God.
Quote from: Murdock post_id=386885 time=1602719854 user_id=3229
We've got a bazillion dollars to build walls and have endless wars in the Middle East, but can't end the poverty that is causing the crime in this country. One permanently divided nation of dumb fucks under God.
More reasons not to vote for Jim Crow Joe. He has spent forty seven years sending jobs overseas, welcoming countless wage lowering illegals, throwing blacks in the penn for minor crimes and supporting wars all over the globe. Trump has been been trying to reverse all of this, but the establishment in both parties have no interest in a prosperous middle class and ending the US being global cops.
Check these threads out.
Comparing Trump and Segregation Joe's Record Among Blacks
https://thebluecashew.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=12277&p=383663&hilit=Blacks#p383663
Segregation Joe: Boon to Prog Billionaires, Trump: Boon to Working People
https://thebluecashew.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=12367&p=373101&hilit=working#p373101
And just so you know, the middle class in the UK is fucked too.
Murdock should leave the states. There is no future for working class whites in the states or Canada. Before Brexit, Britain's white working class was facing the same bleak future. Now with Britain out of the EU and with Johnson's majority in parliament he can implement the kind of pro blue collar immigration policies that Trump wishes he could.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kkbtrKiUZA&t=17s[/media]
Jim Crow Joe is still opposed to desegregation.
'Don't Forget Your Place In Black America': John James Fires Back After Biden Calls Him A Disaster
https://dailycaller.com/2020/10/16/john-james-joe-biden-disaster-michigan/?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2360&pnespid=0ORytOAJCVeNU8O9pSKzU7oDaoyTvu97uXbpfa7.
Michigan U.S. Senate candidate John James fired back at Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden in the form of a tweeted video message Friday evening.
Biden reportedly called James, who is running against Democratic Michigan Sen. Gary Peters, a "disaster" during a Friday campaign speech in Southfield, Michigan.
"Yes, Joe Biden," James tweeted. "I am a disaster for national Democrats' narrative. A black man who thinks for himself."
"Joe Biden, don't forget your place in black America," James said. "You're only where you are because you were Barack Obama's vice president,. That's it. That's it. The people who you rely on so desperately for the position you're in and for the position you want, are African-Americans."
"Yet you continue to insult us," he continued. "You ain't black if you don't vote for me. Asking somebody if they're a junkie. Calling the president, Barack Obama, clean, as if he wouldn't be for some other reason? You have some serious issues, Joe Biden, the biggest of which being you were in power for 44 years and black folks continue to fall behind."
James went on to criticize Biden's support of the Clinton-era crime bill: "You're responsible for sending a generation of what you call super predators to jail. You're responsible for breaking the black family apart, or at least not helping."
"Why should we believe you?" he asked. "We don't believe you. All you have done is gotten rich off the backs of our efforts."
Recently polling shows James running neck-and-neck with the favored Peters.
Chinese man: ...
Black man: Dont say it.
Chinese man: You were governed by a european country for so long... You should have learned how things work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsyHbj_SHGA
And he is roasting the black guy all the time. :laugh3:
Quote from: Herman post_id=387496 time=1603067846 user_id=1689
Jim Crow Joe is still opposed to desegregation.
'Don't Forget Your Place In Black America': John James Fires Back After Biden Calls Him A Disaster
https://dailycaller.com/2020/10/16/john-james-joe-biden-disaster-michigan/?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2360&pnespid=0ORytOAJCVeNU8O9pSKzU7oDaoyTvu97uXbpfa7.
Michigan U.S. Senate candidate John James fired back at Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden in the form of a tweeted video message Friday evening.
Biden reportedly called James, who is running against Democratic Michigan Sen. Gary Peters, a "disaster" during a Friday campaign speech in Southfield, Michigan.
"Yes, Joe Biden," James tweeted. "I am a disaster for national Democrats' narrative. A black man who thinks for himself."
"Joe Biden, don't forget your place in black America," James said. "You're only where you are because you were Barack Obama's vice president,. That's it. That's it. The people who you rely on so desperately for the position you're in and for the position you want, are African-Americans."
"Yet you continue to insult us," he continued. "You ain't black if you don't vote for me. Asking somebody if they're a junkie. Calling the president, Barack Obama, clean, as if he wouldn't be for some other reason? You have some serious issues, Joe Biden, the biggest of which being you were in power for 44 years and black folks continue to fall behind."
James went on to criticize Biden's support of the Clinton-era crime bill: "You're responsible for sending a generation of what you call super predators to jail. You're responsible for breaking the black family apart, or at least not helping."
"Why should we believe you?" he asked. "We don't believe you. All you have done is gotten rich off the backs of our efforts."
Recently polling shows James running neck-and-neck with the favored Peters.
Joe Biden is so condescending to minorities.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=085u0NnAgjA[/media]
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT2rlJe9cuU[/media]
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeIsCphAWnQ[/media]
And it aint just blacks smartening up. Hispanics are losing interest in the coastal elitist democRAT party.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ2sZS1xYdk[/media]
Quote from: Herman post_id=389858 time=1604983035 user_id=1689
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=085u0NnAgjA[/media]
Sounds like a reasonable demands to me.