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Title: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2020, 07:05:06 PM
If the next GOP leader is Jeb Bush style, blue collar voters will stay home in 2024. Let the democRATs be the out of touch party of coastal elites.



https://dailycaller.com/2020/11/21/trump-talk-the-talk-alex-perez/?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2360&pnespid=gOZx9elHDBKNcGRgXAuEjqRrg2rkORbpKqngRcsU



There's no doubt that Latinos and other people of color came out for Trump in record numbers due to the president's America First policies, but how you communicate the policy is just as important, if not more important, than the policy itself. If Trump had spoken in the milquetoast fashion of the career politician, his message would have failed to register with the multi-ethnic coalition he's built, which raises the question: how can seemingly "racist" language, littered with supposed dog whistles and the like, connect with POC? In order to begin to understand how Trump connects with this multi-ethnic coalition, one must reject the premise entirely, as it's founded on the woke progressive belief that "problematic" language is inherently racist and will turn off minority voters. The truth is that most Americans, no matter their color or ethnicity, aren't the sensitive nancies that progressives think them—and want them—to be.



People of color, most of whom are working-class, communicate in the American working-class style—surprise, surprise. This is a style in which problematic banter, consisting of friendly ribbing and edgy repartee, serves the purpose of bringing people together from disparate ethnic and cultural backgrounds. Can this conversational style sometimes come close to crossing the line and legitimately offend someone? Sure—but 99.9% of the time that is not the intention.



Elites, forever outsiders to this multi-ethnic blue-collar America and its sensibilities, have been mystified by Trump's connection to the groups they claim ownership over, for this very reason: their increasingly woke language rules alienate the people they are claiming to speak for. Theirs is not the language of the American people, but of the neoliberal office space and its finally tuned automatons. In this way, the elites are the ultimate outsiders.



Future Republican candidates now understand the language and communication style that energizes the base, but the difficulty lies in its application. Trump is a generational communicator, and simply aping his style will not be enough, and more than likely, will push away loyalists who know the real deal when they see it and hear it. The key, then, isn't to find a Trump wannabe, but a charismatic politician whose natural style and language corresponds with the American working-class language. This will be no easy task, especially when so many up and comers will certainly try to copy the Trumpian blueprint.



But the alternative, a Republican return to Jeb-style timidity and focus-grouped calculation, will seal the party's fate. If Trump has taught us anything, it is that the most powerful force in politics isn't policy, but energy, which is why it is crucial that his motivational and energizing communication powers need to be understood for what they are: the glue that keeps this new multi-ethnic working class coalition together. In forging a common and accessible political language, Trump created a new Republican Party, so to lose the language is to lose the coalition.
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2020, 07:35:00 PM
Trump is going to stab many of his devoted voters and Republican colleagues in the back on his way out. You can just tell he so angry at the loss he is going to do as much damage and line his own pockets as much as he can on the way out. See how he is viewed after Jan 20, big guy.
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2020, 07:42:14 PM
Biden will reverse all the gains blue collar workers of all races made under Trump.
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: cc on November 22, 2020, 07:44:48 PM
That's what they do / have always been about



It's thrilling for me to see that you have seen the light, Eddie
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2020, 07:45:17 PM
There were no gains. The opposite is true.
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2020, 07:47:05 PM
Since losing the election, Trump has lowered drug prices, vowed to bring all troops home from Afghanistan and made it harder for the incoming administration to sell out American workers to China.
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: cc on November 22, 2020, 07:47:21 PM
FFS, Make up your mind Eddy
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2020, 07:54:40 PM
Actually, pay for the bottom 25 percent of wage earners, who account for 82 percent of the population, rose 4.5 percent in November 2019 from the year-ago period, according to recent data published by the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta. That's the highest since July 2008. These are the people that have the most to lose from Biden globalist America last approach to governing or rather selling out.
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2020, 08:05:45 PM
Quote from: Edward post_id=391377 time=1606092880
Actually, pay for the bottom 25 percent of wage earners, who account for 82 percent of the population, rose 4.5 percent in November 2019 from the year-ago period, according to recent data published by the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta. That's the highest since July 2008. These are the people that have the most to lose from Biden globalist America last approach to governing or rather selling out.


You are so full of shit. 2008 was during the recession caused by the Republicans.
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2020, 08:07:16 PM
And yeah, Herman has no real stats or info so he handlejacks me with bulloshit.
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2020, 08:18:23 PM
Quote from: Edward post_id=391378 time=1606093545
Quote from: Edward post_id=391377 time=1606092880
Actually, pay for the bottom 25 percent of wage earners, who account for 82 percent of the population, rose 4.5 percent in November 2019 from the year-ago period, according to recent data published by the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta. That's the highest since July 2008. These are the people that have the most to lose from Biden globalist America last approach to governing or rather selling out.


You are so full of shit. 2008 was during the recession caused by the Republicans.

Make up your mind. The post above indicates you do have a clue and then post this kind of ignorant nonsense.



The financial crisis was global. In the US the trigger was the sub prime mortgage crisis. It had it's origins in the presidency of Bill Clinton. Clinton repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, a cornerstone of Depression-era regulation. He also signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which exempted credit-default swaps from regulation. In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods. Certainly Bush continued the failed policy of encouraging lending to people who can't afford to pay it back.
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2020, 08:20:54 PM
There is lending to low income neighborhoods and then there are predatory loans. Trump cleared the way again for predatory loans. Trump is an enemy of the working man.
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2020, 08:23:18 PM
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=391381 time=1606094303 user_id=114
Quote from: Edward post_id=391378 time=1606093545
Quote from: Edward post_id=391377 time=1606092880
Actually, pay for the bottom 25 percent of wage earners, who account for 82 percent of the population, rose 4.5 percent in November 2019 from the year-ago period, according to recent data published by the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta. That's the highest since July 2008. These are the people that have the most to lose from Biden globalist America last approach to governing or rather selling out.


You are so full of shit. 2008 was during the recession caused by the Republicans.

Make up your mind. The post above indicates you do have a clue and then post this kind of ignorant nonsense.



The financial crisis was global. In the US the trigger was the sub prime mortgage crisis. It had it's origins in the presidency of Bill Clinton. Clinton repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, a cornerstone of Depression-era regulation. He also signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which exempted credit-default swaps from regulation. In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods. Certainly Bush continued the failed policy of encouraging lending to people who can't afford to pay it back.

That is what I call a cunting.
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2020, 08:24:46 PM
https://memebee.com/vancouver/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=78830



He is still desperately trying to get recounts. All of his lawsuits are emphatically getting thrown out. The guy has lost and he just refuses to get it through his thick skull. He refuses to take part in the transition and threatens anyone else who acknowledges Biden's win. It is important Biden is filled in on vaccine information since Biden will be POTUS when the vaccines are administered but he refuses. He is putting many more lives at risk with his childish, narcissistic behavior.



No matter what you say, you know damn well it is an attempted coup by a power hunger psychopath.



Own up to it.
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2020, 08:27:45 PM
Trying to lend legitimacy by associating your posts with my name is pretty pathetic, blue cashew incels.
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2020, 08:33:07 PM
Quote from: Edward post_id=391382 time=1606094454
There is lending to low income neighborhoods and then there are predatory loans. Trump cleared the way again for predatory loans. Trump is an enemy of the working man.

I was a Clinton fan.  At the time, I supported his deregulatory policies thinking it would free up capital for those at the bottom. But, the fact is, not everybody should own their own home or a business. It turns out Bill Clinton was one of the most reckless presidents to have ever occupied the white house. His legacy is the 2008 sub prime mortgage crisis. Oh ya, and trade deals that hollowed out the industrial sector.
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2020, 08:41:40 PM
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=391381 time=1606094303 user_id=114
Quote from: Edward post_id=391378 time=1606093545
Quote from: Edward post_id=391377 time=1606092880
Actually, pay for the bottom 25 percent of wage earners, who account for 82 percent of the population, rose 4.5 percent in November 2019 from the year-ago period, according to recent data published by the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta. That's the highest since July 2008. These are the people that have the most to lose from Biden globalist America last approach to governing or rather selling out.


You are so full of shit. 2008 was during the recession caused by the Republicans.

Make up your mind. The post above indicates you do have a clue and then post this kind of ignorant nonsense.



The financial crisis was global. In the US the trigger was the sub prime mortgage crisis. It had it's origins in the presidency of Bill Clinton. Clinton repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, a cornerstone of Depression-era regulation. He also signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which exempted credit-default swaps from regulation. In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods. Certainly Bush continued the failed policy of encouraging lending to people who can't afford to pay it back.

Good show Seoul..



Some people have short or selected memories.
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2020, 09:06:25 PM
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=391381 time=1606094303 user_id=114
Quote from: Edward post_id=391378 time=1606093545
Quote from: Edward post_id=391377 time=1606092880
Actually, pay for the bottom 25 percent of wage earners, who account for 82 percent of the population, rose 4.5 percent in November 2019 from the year-ago period, according to recent data published by the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta. That's the highest since July 2008. These are the people that have the most to lose from Biden globalist America last approach to governing or rather selling out.


You are so full of shit. 2008 was during the recession caused by the Republicans.

Make up your mind. The post above indicates you do have a clue and then post this kind of ignorant nonsense.



The financial crisis was global. In the US the trigger was the sub prime mortgage crisis. It had it's origins in the presidency of Bill Clinton. Clinton repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, a cornerstone of Depression-era regulation. He also signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which exempted credit-default swaps from regulation. In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods. Certainly Bush continued the failed policy of encouraging lending to people who can't afford to pay it back.

Worst president ever for blue collar workers was Bill Clinton. And yes, the sub rime mortgage crisis was his fault.
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2020, 09:08:46 PM
Yeah, and then Bush let things blow up. Obama made legislation to fix it and Trump reversed everything.
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2020, 09:12:30 PM
Anything Obama put forward was maliciously shot down by Mitch McConnell as well. If the Democrats are able to tie up the senate everything will be fine. Otherwise Mitch McConnell is hellbent on destroying America to make the Democrats look bad.
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2020, 10:39:56 PM
Bill Clinotn was pure evil The worst president by a country mile. And the president-elect voted for most of his failed policies including locking up black men for minor offenses.


QuoteIn 1995, using the powers of the presidency, Bill Clinton turned the 1977 Community Reinvestment Act into an aggressive program that basically forced banks to lend money to "underserved" communities. That meant those with low incomes who couldn't necessarily repay a loan.



Meanwhile, his Department of Housing and Urban Development got involved in a big way.



Jack Cashill, writing for the American Thinker, notes: "HUD, which Congress had made the regulator of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in 1992, began to pressure these agencies to set numerical goals for affordable housing, even if that meant buying subprime mortgages. The media cheered the agencies on."



Under HUD Secretary Andrew Cuomo, the agency became particularly aggressive, in 2000 making a goal of over $1 trillion in new loans to low-income minority households. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were told to make at least half of their loans to low- and moderate-income borrowers, mainly minorities.



Banks suddenly found that regulators had the power to refuse their branch expansions or reject a merger if they weren't making enough loans to otherwise unqualified minority borrowers. So they played along. They made the loans, and Freddie and Fannie bought the loans right back. It was like a game of musical chairs, and the Fed kept the game going in the early 2000s by cutting interest rates.



Every time Republicans in Congress or President Bush talked about reforming housing programs, Democrats like Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts and Sen. Chris Dodd of Connecticut threw fits, threatening to gum up Congress and implying that GOP lawmakers were racists. The Republicans backed off.



From 1997 to 2007, with the Fed slashing interest rates and flooding the banking system with liquidity, home lending soared. Banks abandoned long-standing lending standards to avoid being punished by regulators or singled out by newly empowered "community groups" such as ACORN as anti-minority.



"As a result of these policies," wrote Peter J. Wallison, a member of the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission, in a scathing dissent from the group's official findings, "by the middle of 2007, there were approximately 27 million subprime and Alt-A mortgages in the U.S. financial system — half of all mortgages outstanding — with an aggregate value of over $4.5 trillion." And by 2008, Fannie and Freddie had on their books more than three-quarters of all U.S. subprime and Alt-A loans made.



When the Fed began raising interest rates to slow inflation, and put a brake on soaring housing prices, many of the loans made to low-income black and Hispanic borrowers predictably fell into delinquency or default — leaving mortgage lenders, Fannie and Freddie, and Wall Street with enormous losses.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/sorry-hillary-you-and-bill-not-tax-cuts-caused-the-financial-crisis/
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: cc on November 22, 2020, 10:58:29 PM
Quote from: Edward post_id=391394 time=1606097550
Anything Obama put forward was maliciously shot down by Mitch McConnell as well. If the Democrats are able to tie up the senate everything will be fine. Otherwise Mitch McConnell is hellbent on destroying America to make the Democrats look bad.

The dipshit 0 had 8 years, much of it with all houses



What did he achieve?



Answer = 0 achieved 0



I know, I know. CNN says ..................
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2020, 11:05:39 PM
Eddie is an example of why universal suffrage should be scrapped. He knows fuck all about the economic policies of any US president or congress.
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Anonymous on November 23, 2020, 12:02:38 AM
Quote from: cc post_id=391402 time=1606103909 user_id=88
Quote from: Edward post_id=391394 time=1606097550
Anything Obama put forward was maliciously shot down by Mitch McConnell as well. If the Democrats are able to tie up the senate everything will be fine. Otherwise Mitch McConnell is hellbent on destroying America to make the Democrats look bad.

The dipshit 0 had 8 years, much of it with all houses



What did he achieve?



Answer = 0 achieved 0



I know, I know. CNN says ..................

Obama presided over the weakest recovery in US history. No surprise, he didn't campaign on high growth like Clinton did in 1996 and Trump in 2016. As we know now the Clinton growth strategy was reckless and unsustainable. The Trump growth strategy focused on the real economy(manufacturing, resource development) and not on creating an artificial housing and dotcom bubble.
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Anonymous on November 23, 2020, 12:45:12 AM
Obama should have invoked his executive privilege more often. Biden will be following Trump's example and will use it often.
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Anonymous on November 23, 2020, 12:47:23 AM
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=391412 time=1606107758 user_id=114
Quote from: cc post_id=391402 time=1606103909 user_id=88
Quote from: Edward post_id=391394 time=1606097550
Anything Obama put forward was maliciously shot down by Mitch McConnell as well. If the Democrats are able to tie up the senate everything will be fine. Otherwise Mitch McConnell is hellbent on destroying America to make the Democrats look bad.

The dipshit 0 had 8 years, much of it with all houses



What did he achieve?



Answer = 0 achieved 0



I know, I know. CNN says ..................

Obama presided over the weakest recovery in US history. No surprise, he didn't campaign on high growth like Clinton did in 1996 and Trump in 2016. As we know now the Clinton growth strategy was reckless and unsustainable. The Trump growth strategy focused on the real economy(manufacturing, resource development) and not on creating an artificial housing and dotcom bubble.


100% Mitch McConnell. He blocked everything Obama put forward. He is currently blocking stimulus and covid relief. Real scumbag.
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Anonymous on November 23, 2020, 01:11:09 AM
The lowest Black unemployment rate under President Bush was 7.7 percent in August 2007. The best Black unemployment under Obama was 10.7 in June 2014 (matching Bush's worst) and the worst was 16.5 percent in 2011.



Poverty. There were 46 million living in poverty in the U.S. – the largest number in 50 years. The percentage of Blacks in poverty was 28 percent. The percentage of Blacks under age 18 in poverty has grown under Obama and was 40 percent.



Three years into the Trump administration, African Americans experienced a record low unemployment rate of 5.4% in August 2019.



Under Clinton blacks went to jail. Under Obama, they went to the welfare office and food bank. Under Trump, they went to work.
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Frood on November 23, 2020, 02:56:53 AM
Quote from: Edward post_id=391418 time=1606110443
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=391412 time=1606107758 user_id=114
Quote from: cc post_id=391402 time=1606103909 user_id=88
Quote from: Edward post_id=391394 time=1606097550
Anything Obama put forward was maliciously shot down by Mitch McConnell as well. If the Democrats are able to tie up the senate everything will be fine. Otherwise Mitch McConnell is hellbent on destroying America to make the Democrats look bad.

The dipshit 0 had 8 years, much of it with all houses



What did he achieve?



Answer = 0 achieved 0



I know, I know. CNN says ..................

Obama presided over the weakest recovery in US history. No surprise, he didn't campaign on high growth like Clinton did in 1996 and Trump in 2016. As we know now the Clinton growth strategy was reckless and unsustainable. The Trump growth strategy focused on the real economy(manufacturing, resource development) and not on creating an artificial housing and dotcom bubble.


100% Mitch McConnell. He blocked everything Obama put forward. He is currently blocking stimulus and covid relief. Real scumbag.


Everything democrats put forward is shit.



Pelosi has treated stimulus and covid relief like the golden goose for bailing out leftist controlled states and funding unrelated programs.



You're an idiot.
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Renee on November 23, 2020, 07:40:19 AM
Quote from: Edward post_id=391378 time=1606093545
Quote from: Edward post_id=391377 time=1606092880
Actually, pay for the bottom 25 percent of wage earners, who account for 82 percent of the population, rose 4.5 percent in November 2019 from the year-ago period, according to recent data published by the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta. That's the highest since July 2008. These are the people that have the most to lose from Biden globalist America last approach to governing or rather selling out.


You are so full of shit. 2008 was during the recession caused by the Republicans.


STFU, you degenerate pos. The 2008 recession was caused by the collapse of the housing bubble which was started by the Clinton administration and allowed to run wild by congressional democraps such as Chris Dod and company on the Banking Committee...You know nothing about American politics or American history. You're nothing but a crayon college drop out, so fuck off.



Shouldn't you be ogling pictures of raped children or stalking someone off line?....Because you sure as shit shouldn't be talking American politics, you empty headed, pile of shit.
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Anonymous on November 23, 2020, 08:49:57 AM
Quote from: Renee post_id=391459 time=1606135219 user_id=156
Quote from: Edward post_id=391378 time=1606093545
Quote from: Edward post_id=391377 time=1606092880
Actually, pay for the bottom 25 percent of wage earners, who account for 82 percent of the population, rose 4.5 percent in November 2019 from the year-ago period, according to recent data published by the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta. That's the highest since July 2008. These are the people that have the most to lose from Biden globalist America last approach to governing or rather selling out.


You are so full of shit. 2008 was during the recession caused by the Republicans.


STFU, you degenerate pos. The 2008 recession was caused by the collapse of the housing bubble which was started by the Clinton administration and allowed to run wild by congressional democraps such as Chris Dod and company on the Banking Committee...You know nothing about American politics or American history. You're nothing but a crayon college drop out, so fuck off.



Shouldn't you be ogling pictures of raped children or stalking someone off line?....Because you sure as shit shouldn't be talking American politics, you empty headed, pile of shit.

I remember that.
Title: Re: Trump Spoke To Hispanic And Black Americans
Post by: Anonymous on November 23, 2020, 10:22:00 AM
Quote from: Renee post_id=391459 time=1606135219 user_id=156
Quote from: Edward post_id=391378 time=1606093545
Quote from: Edward post_id=391377 time=1606092880
Actually, pay for the bottom 25 percent of wage earners, who account for 82 percent of the population, rose 4.5 percent in November 2019 from the year-ago period, according to recent data published by the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta. That's the highest since July 2008. These are the people that have the most to lose from Biden globalist America last approach to governing or rather selling out.


You are so full of shit. 2008 was during the recession caused by the Republicans.


STFU, you degenerate pos. The 2008 recession was caused by the collapse of the housing bubble which was started by the Clinton administration and allowed to run wild by congressional democraps such as Chris Dod and company on the Banking Committee...You know nothing about American politics or American history. You're nothing but a crayon college drop out, so fuck off.



Shouldn't you be ogling pictures of raped children or stalking someone off line?....Because you sure as shit shouldn't be talking American politics, you empty headed, pile of shit.

There are three things Eddie should not be allowed near: schools, the internet and ballot boxes.