Todd and Stacy Bagley had the misfortune of meeting Mr. Bernard and his pack of 90´s gangsta negroes.
And cops found heir charred corpses in the morning.
He should have been pardoned because he behaved nicely and said he is sorry.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55261224
Bernard, 40, was convicted of murder in 1999 when he was a teenager, and is the youngest offender to be executed by the federal government in nearly 70 years.
Bernard told the family of the couple he killed he was sorry, before dying by lethal injection on Thursday.
Four more executions are planned before the end of Donald Trump's presidency."
"What was Bernard convicted of?
He was given the death penalty for his involvement in the murder of Todd and Stacie Bagley in June 1999.
He was one of five teenagers accused of robbing the pair and forcing them into the boot of their car in Texas.
They were shot as they lay in the boot by 19-year-old accomplice Christopher Vialva before Bernard set the car alight.
Defence lawyers say both of the Bagleys probably died before the car was set on fire, and an independent investigator hired by the defence said Stacie had been "medically dead" before the fire.
However, government testimony during the trial said that although Todd Bagley had died instantly, Stacie had had soot in her airway, signalling that she had died from smoke inhalation and not the gunshot wound.
Bernard's lawyers say he feared what would happen to him if he refused to follow the orders of Vialva, who was executed in September.
Others involved in the incident were given prison sentences as they were under 18 and classed as juveniles.
Bernard's lawyers argued that he should be given life in prison without parole, as, throughout his time in jail, he maintained a good record and worked with outreach programmes to stop people from getting involved in crime."
I can honestly say, this is the first time I have heard about this case.
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I can honestly say, this is the first time I have heard about this case.
Its all over the news now because Trump didnt pardon him.
They tried to stop the execution and managed to stall it for a couple of hours.
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Quote from: seoulbro post_id=393845 time=1607707957 user_id=114
I can honestly say, this is the first time I have heard about this case.
Its all over the news now because Trump didnt pardon him.
They tried to stop the execution and managed to stall it for a couple of hours.
I don't usually read crime and punishment news.
There were 2 crimes committed in this case....The actual murder and the grotesque length of time it took to liquidate the offending piece of filth....The murders happened in 99 and we will never be able to recoup the tax money used to keep that scumbag alive all this time nor does it serve as justice for the family of the victims.
In a just world and in these types of cases, the offending piece of shit would be taken right from the sentencing to the chopping block.... :mad:
Quote from: Renee post_id=393858 time=1607715155 user_id=156
In a just world and in these types of cases, the offending piece of shit would be taken right from the sentencing to the chopping block.... :mad:
I'm with you on most of it, but Is that a recommendation to go back to the chopping block? :sneaky2:
Capital punishment is so barbaric.
This is the whole situation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ien5M3iDXI0&t=12s
Odi, I've heard all the arguments for capital punishment and I do understand people's feelings.
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In a just world and in these types of cases, the offending piece of shit would be taken right from the sentencing to the chopping block.... :mad:
Hell ya.
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Quote from: Renee post_id=393858 time=1607715155 user_id=156
In a just world and in these types of cases, the offending piece of shit would be taken right from the sentencing to the chopping block.... :mad:
Hell ya.
I understand that Herman, but I have a different opinion.
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Quote from: Herman post_id=393888 time=1607722391 user_id=1689
Quote from: Renee post_id=393858 time=1607715155 user_id=156
In a just world and in these types of cases, the offending piece of shit would be taken right from the sentencing to the chopping block.... :mad:
Hell ya.
I understand that Herman, but I have a different opinion.
You want to keep them alive and torture them..
I get it.
Sometimes death is a release, not a real punishment.
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Quote from: Fashionista post_id=393892 time=1607726543 user_id=3254
Quote from: Herman post_id=393888 time=1607722391 user_id=1689
Quote from: Renee post_id=393858 time=1607715155 user_id=156
In a just world and in these types of cases, the offending piece of shit would be taken right from the sentencing to the chopping block.... :mad:
Hell ya.
I understand that Herman, but I have a different opinion.
You want to keep them alive and torture them..
I get it.
Sometimes death is a release, not a real punishment.
Indefinite incarceration is reasonable punishment.....it also satisfies the public need for protection.
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Quote from: Odinson post_id=393895 time=1607727050 user_id=136
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=393892 time=1607726543 user_id=3254
Quote from: Herman post_id=393888 time=1607722391 user_id=1689
Quote from: Renee post_id=393858 time=1607715155 user_id=156
In a just world and in these types of cases, the offending piece of shit would be taken right from the sentencing to the chopping block.... :mad:
Hell ya.
I understand that Herman, but I have a different opinion.
You want to keep them alive and torture them..
I get it.
Sometimes death is a release, not a real punishment.
Indefinite incarceration is reasonable punishment.....it also satisfies the public need for protection.
That is worse than a quick death.
He didn't actually kill them. He was a low ranking member who burned their bodies after the fact.
Quote from: Edward post_id=394076 time=1607882824
He didn't actually kill them. He was a low ranking member who burned their bodies after the fact.
Who gives a shit what his part in the murders were? Only an amoral creep like you would make a distinction between the killers and the accomplices.
While we are on the subject,...you should be gassed as well.