What are some well paid easy to get jobs there? Is it a small town?
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It is the largest(population) resource boom town in Canada. Has a large hospital, airport, malls and some government offices. Check out this link to give you an idea of what is available.
http://www.fortmcmurrayonline.com/jobs/welcome.aspx
I asked you once before and I will ask you again, what do you do for a living other than your Mickey D's job? I can offer better advice if I know what you do.
Construction jobs pay well.
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Oh fuck yeah, especially industrial jobs.
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Oh fuck yeah, especially industrial jobs.
My pay will boost up next month. Theres alot of benefits.
Stayed there 2 weeks training and it was SO EXPENSIVE, you better have a well paying job because renting there is ridicules.
The place is infested. The bugs will carry you away, the black fly's and horse fly's are scary
To get on any well paid job there you have to belong to a Trade or work in the industry, they don't just hire anyone, being part of the union doesn't hurt either, they can put you on the board and when a job becomes available you get the call to come to work, well, that's how it was when i was slinging tools. (fixes hair) im a suit now.
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The place is infested. The bugs will carry you away, the black fly's and horse fly's are scary
In the 2.5 weeks of summer the North gets. Actually most of the North has that problem with bugs. Fucking huge insects.
Just so you know Keeps, the vacancy rate in Fort Mac is not quite as severe as a few years ago. In fact Edmonton may even be worse right now. I was in Sobey's and I checked an ad for renting a three bdrm, 1.5 bath townhouse and it was $1650/month + all utilities. That's expensive.
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It is the largest(population) resource boom town in Canada. Has a large hospital, airport, malls and some government offices. Check out this link to give you an idea of what is available.
http://www.fortmcmurrayonline.com/jobs/welcome.aspx
I asked you once before and I will ask you again, what do you do for a living other than your Mickey D's job? I can offer better advice if I know what you do.
thank you for the info Shen Li. To tell you the truth I only work part time at mcdonalds now. I don't really want to leave. Don't really like my job but the people there really became like family. Made friends and all the managers are so nice. I'm on the list as one of the key crew members as I do my job really well. I am thinking about giving that electrician thing another shot. Perhaps I can leave McDonalds for a few months and see. Really.
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Yep, the best way to get a job there is to have a trade, be an apprentice and belong to a union. Fly in/fly out and camp accomodations on a steady rotation. It is different than other oil and gas towns as there are fewer unskilled labour positions.
My best friend and my brother stayed in a camp ground for 3 months working there, $150.00 a month for the lot and they made there own food. 12 hour days slinging mud and drywall. My brother was able to pay off his house and buy a RV. he did very well. You just need to plan ahead and be willing to sacrifice a little.
myself, I wouldn't want to stay there again, 2 weeks was enough. the place is fill with Drunk truck drivers and ummm (whispers) whore.
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VG, don't take this the wrong way, but are you nuts?? You are almost as old as me and you want to stay working in a kid's job while living with mommy and daddy? Don't you want to grow up and be a man? Don't you want a friggin gf?
You listen to me young man, you get your ass back into your electrical trade right fucking now. As soon as you do, you then drop that dead-end fast food job. You are single, so you free as a bird to fly to where ever the work may take you. If you fail to follow Auntie Shen Li's sage advice then you leave me no alternative than me flying to the left coast and smacking some sense into ya. Now get your ass in gear and that's an order. ;)
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myself, I wouldn't want to stay there again, 2 weeks was enough. the place is fill with Drunk truck drivers and ummm (whispers) whore.
sounds like a scary place for the rednecks.
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myself, I wouldn't want to stay there again, 2 weeks was enough. the place is fill with Drunk truck drivers and ummm (whispers) whore.
Open camps are what you are talking about Keeps. A bit more rental available now though.
Drywalling is a tough way to earn a buck anywhere though. What do you do now for a living now Keeps?
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myself, I wouldn't want to stay there again, 2 weeks was enough. the place is fill with Drunk truck drivers and ummm (whispers) whore.
sounds like a scary place for the rednecks.
No, it's actually a very multi-racial place and even has a mosque. The smaller resource cities like FSJ or High Level are far more redneckish.
I wish i was able to drive around more, We were shuttled on a bus to Syncrude then back to the hotel. I had the option to stay in an ATCO Trailer lol, ya , right. Camp food was not an option
Senior Procurement for a company here and in Arizona, Hoping to train someone there this year.
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The Lakeside meat packing plant down in Brooks has a bunch of Atco trailers for all their African and Mexican workers.
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Ah purchasing eh? Do you have your SCMP designation? My Auntie in Singapore is a senior purchaser for a major oilfield service contractor.
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Ah purchasing eh? Do you have your SCMP designation? My Auntie in Singapore is a senior purchaser for a major oilfield service contractor.
Nope, thought about it, but haven't gave it much thought with this new company im at. Long story.
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Ah purchasing eh? Do you have your SCMP designation? My Auntie in Singapore is a senior purchaser for a major oilfield service contractor.
Nope, thought about it, but haven't gave it much thought with this new company im at. Long story.
How does one go from drywall and mudding to purchasing? Doesn't seem like a natural progression.
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Ah purchasing eh? Do you have your SCMP designation? My Auntie in Singapore is a senior purchaser for a major oilfield service contractor.
Nope, thought about it, but haven't gave it much thought with this new company im at. Long story.
How does one go from drywall and mudding to purchasing? Doesn't seem like a natural progression.
Where did i say i was dry walling or mudding? My work history has always been in the oil filed from the age of 22,although i have done my share of slinging board and mud on weekends to make ends meet when i was in prison errr i mean married.
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Where did i say i was dry walling or mudding? My work history has always been in the oil filed from the age of 22,although i have done my share of slinging board and mud on weekends to make ends meet when i was in prison errr i mean married.
Oops, it was your best friend and brother you were talking about Keeps.
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Anyway, that's a good progression from the field to a purchasing. That's what makes the industry so awesome are the opportunities for career growth that few other industries can provide.
When i first started out it was really easy to get in, Had to belong to a union though and that was my first experience with Unions, I have good and bad to sat about them, Back in the day we had to fill out cards for UI and if you went to the Union Hall and got it stamped with you number UI took about 2 weeks less to get the ball rolling so there was plus points for them, now (shrug) i stopped paying my dues. Im salary, i can come and go as i please. 23 years in the business... yikes im old
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My husband was in the IBEW for a while Keeper..
He liked it, but he has been with a non-unionized very specialized oilfield services company for most of his working life now..
The job has taken him all over the world and now he is in management.
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He liked it, but he has been with a non-unionized very specialized oilfield services company for most of his working life now..
The job has taken him all over the world and now he is in management.
VG is an electrical apprentice working at Mickey D's?? I have no idea what year he is in, but I know he would be better off in the trades than a Mcjob. Weebles made the move and is glad he did. VG should be doing the same and soon.
Electrician has 3years in school and 2 years experience as an apprentice. Or was it 1year... Cant remember.
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A red seal electrician in Canada takes 4 years as an apprentice with 8 weeks in school each year..
My husband has a master electrician designation which can be achieved after so many years as a journeyman electrician.
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A red seal electrician in Canada takes 4 years as an apprentice with 8 weeks in school each year..
My husband has a master electrician designation which can be achieved after so many years as a journeyman electrician.
VG should be looking into opportunities in his trade ASAP. An electrical apprentice working at Mickey D's is such a fucking waste.
Early apprentice is kinda like meltsie to his EX. 70kg necklace...
I'll only want part time work. I hated working full time. I don't really want to leave my current job. It's the most friendly place to work. Many young girls. They are promoting me to be a crew trainer. Was employee of the month during the summer.
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Yea, theres not much chicks in this profession.
Was working full time with this big electrical company. They would hire like 8 people at a time for hard labour work. Hundreds of boxes and materials. Lots of lifting and moving. I had trouble carrying my own tools. Many of the guys who I started with quit. Everybody on my team wanted to leave. I was the one who lasted the longest. As a skinny underweight 115ib guy with a bad back the heavy load was just too much. I have the body size of a teenage girl. Have to shop for clothes at the kids section. Anyways. I would like to work for a smaller company who only does work for houses and not massive towers where I just do cheap labour work. Some of the pipes were so heavy that I couldn't even lift. Others had no problem lifting them. It's not just simple wiring where you just use your hands. One of my coworkers wanted to get into a trades. She's super cute. I warned her. In construction she'll get sexually harassed. When I was working as an electrical apprentice people would talk inappropriate things about women every day. No place for pretty girl.
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The girls can take it. Construction workers only talk to female coworkers in inuendos. They would feel sad if they wouldnt get sexually harassed. :D Females like when a big barkened construction workers hand grabs their tushy.
You got the new guys job. We had the same, months of all day lifting over a 100kg IT-wire rolls on shelves. And pipe lifting.
Then the new guys came after us and we educated them about how things are.
In constructing houses, youll still have to do alot of heavy lifting. At first anyway.
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Ah ffs VG, how old are you this year? I think you are about two years younger than me. I will be 30 in September and I think you will be 28 this year. Anyway, you are talking like a kid in high school. Don't you have any desire to have a REAL profession which would allow you to have a girlfriend your own age(not talking about the high school girls you work with) and your own place? In other words an independent man who can stand on his own two feet.
None of my business, but how long do you plan on extending adolescence? How long in p/t jobs for kids and living with mommy? Why are you so scared of growing up?
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There are lots of women working in the trades in Alberta. The kind of work you described would not be typical at all here on large industrial projects. When working in a chemical plant for example you would not be carrying a load up the tower ladders. If some 50 year old woman can do it, I'm sure you can. I mean you can't possible be that delicate?
Why don't you ask Fash to ask her husband about opps in the industry. Even if you don't want to move, maybe he can knows of a camp job where you can do a hitch and decide if you want to get back into an adult's job or not.
He is nowhere near 28years old... His mentality is that of a 17year old nerd boy. He lives at his parents house...
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No, you are wrong Odinson. I was born in 1984 and I remember him writing I believe on Frosty's forum that he was born in 1986. I have nothing against him personally, but he is incredibly immature for his age. Not entirely his fault though because his parents have enabled his Peter Pan mentality. If he wants to grow up and be a man, I am willing to offer as many leads as I can come up with. If he wants to keep sponging off his parents, working p/t at kids job and chasing little high school girls then he's his parents problem forever.
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No, you are wrong Odinson. I was born in 1984 and I remember him writing I believe on Frosty's forum that he was born in 1986. I have nothing against him personally, but he is incredibly immature for his age. Not entirely his fault though because his parents have enabled his Peter Pan mentality. If he wants to grow up and be a man, I am willing to offer as many leads as I can come up with. If he wants to keep sponging off his parents, working p/t at kids job and chasing little high school girls then he's his parents problem forever.
Incredibly immature!? What the hell... He is like a little kid.
And how can a male weight 115pounds?
Gotta be a troll.
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No, you are wrong Odinson. I was born in 1984 and I remember him writing I believe on Frosty's forum that he was born in 1986. I have nothing against him personally, but he is incredibly immature for his age. Not entirely his fault though because his parents have enabled his Peter Pan mentality. If he wants to grow up and be a man, I am willing to offer as many leads as I can come up with. If he wants to keep sponging off his parents, working p/t at kids job and chasing little high school girls then he's his parents problem forever.
Incredibly immature!? What the hell... He is like a little kid.
And how can a male weight 115pounds?
Gotta be a troll.
No, he's neither a troll nor an asshole. He's practically a dwarf and his parents baby him. As I said not entirely his fault.
A dwarf. Never seen one live. I bet he would be a chick magnet in nightclubs. Rare as fuck. :D
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My husband is a pipe fitter by trade and 4 and 6" sch 40 steel pipe is heavy stuff. He lifts it all the time like it is nothing but it wasn't always so. There is a right way and a wrong way to do it. It takes a while to get the hang of and as you do it you will become physically more able to handle it. So don't feel bad a lot of guys bigger than you struggle to lift stuff like that.
BTW, if you are 115lbs I kind of think heavy trade work may not be for you. Maybe a nice retail job might be more your speed?
How much do you bench, Renee?
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BTW, if you are 115lbs I kind of think heavy trade work may not be for you. Maybe a nice retail job might be more your speed?
Renee, I agree there is a right way and a wrong way to do things. Like you said it takes a while to get the hang of things. VG is giving up too damned easily because "it's hard". Don't encourage him to quit please. He needs to be a man and drop the whole Peter Pan syndrome. We have 120lb women working as insulators, pipe-fitters, boilermakers, electricians, hd wrenches, instrumentation mechanics, millwrights and machinists. He is quite capable of doing the work if he applies himself. He finds living at home at the age of 28, working p/t at Mickey D's and chasing girls in high school easier than growing up and being a man. His parents and others seem to condone such parasitical behaviour simply because he is "teenie weenie". No excuse in the Iron Chink's books.
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BTW, if you are 115lbs I kind of think heavy trade work may not be for you. Maybe a nice retail job might be more your speed?
Renee, I agree there is a right way and a wrong way to do things. Like you said it takes a while to get the hang of things. VG is giving up too damned easily because "it's hard". Don't encourage him to quit please. He needs to be a man and drop the whole Peter Pan syndrome. We have 120lb women working as insulators, pipe-fitters, boilermakers, electricians, hd wrenches, instrumentation mechanics, millwrights and machinists. He is quite capable of doing the work if he applies himself. He finds living at home at the age of 28, working p/t at Mickey D's and chasing girls in high school easier than growing up and being a man. His parents and others seem to condone such parasitical behaviour simply because he is "teenie weenie". No excuse in the Iron Chink's books.
Shen Li, you are being very cruel to TheVancouverGuy..
He is a very nice boy and I am always happy to have him here and read his posts..
Ridiculing him is not a good way to encourage him..
Besides, what he does or where he lives is none of your business..
Be nice, be supportive and try to offer advice without being so judgemental.
You cant sugarcoat it, fashie...
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Some people are late bloomers Odi..
Pushing TheVancouverGuy too hard especially by belittling him seems counterproductive.
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Some people are late bloomers Odi..
Pushing TheVancouverGuy too hard especially by belittling him seems counterproductive.
I dunno... Its a little weird.
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Some people are late bloomers Odi..
Pushing TheVancouverGuy too hard especially by belittling him seems counterproductive.
I dunno... Its a little weird.
Maybe it isn't to our TheVancouverGuy..
We would have to walk in his shoes to know what is normal by his standards..
This is why I asked Shen Li to get off his back.
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He is a very nice boy and I am always happy to have him here and read his posts..
Ridiculing him is not a good way to encourage him..
Besides, what he does or where he lives is none of your business..
Be nice, be supportive and try to offer advice without being so judgemental.
Not a fucking chance my friend. Coddling him has done a lot of fucking good now hasn't it? No work ethic, no girlfriend, p/t Mcjob, 28 and likes high school girls, lives at home and has no plan to change that. He hasn't matured since grade 12. He needs to get his ass in a real job which will transform this boy from perpetually 17 years old into a real man. You can call that being a hardass if you like, I don't fucking care.
I would like to visit caesars palace... The real one, in Las Vegas...
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Why did you post this in a Fort McMurray thread Odi?
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Why did you post this in a Fort McMurray thread Odi?
Just wondering.. The rooms are not that expensive.
Gotta go on a trip at some point... Its either sin-city or tropical island.
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Why did you post this in a Fort McMurray thread Odi?
Just wondering.. The rooms are not that expensive.
Gotta go on a trip at some point... Its either sin-city or tropical island.
I've been there a couple of times. Check out Go Las Vegas website.
Its gonna take over a year to leave on such a trip. If you choose one of the most famous casinos, it seems to be pretty tough to get a room for a week. So many rent them for just one night.
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Las Vegas is one place I never want to go to.
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Las Vegas is one place I never want to go to.
Its a little dirty... Gambling, escorts, cocktail waitresses. :D
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Las Vegas is one place I never want to go to.
Its a little dirty... Gambling, escorts, cocktail waitresses. :D
The closest we came to it was when we went to Disneyland in Anaheim, California..
That is about 500 kilometres away I believe.
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He is a very nice boy and I am always happy to have him here and read his posts..
Ridiculing him is not a good way to encourage him..
Besides, what he does or where he lives is none of your business..
Be nice, be supportive and try to offer advice without being so judgemental.
Not a fucking chance my friend. Coddling him has done a lot of fucking good now hasn't it? No work ethic, no girlfriend, p/t Mcjob, 28 and likes high school girls, lives at home and has no plan to change that. He hasn't matured since grade 12. He needs to get his ass in a real job which will transform this boy from perpetually 17 years old into a real man. You can call that being a hardass if you like, I don't fucking care.
When you post mean-spirited things like this you make it difficult to take your side..
TheVancouverGuy is a very nice boy and does not deserve such judgemental putdowns..
I doubt this is helping our TheVancouverGuy at all as you seem to think..
If he doesn't fit your personal definition of a man then that is your problem, not his..
You should accept people as they are and not ridicule them for not being the way you want them to be.
Lighten up Shen, VG is a good guy.
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Look, it's nothing personal against him ya know. This is a forum, he shared some details about himself, so he shouldn't be surprised if gets some unsolicited advice from people like myself. Believe it or not though, I hope he is very successful in life.
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BTW, if you are 115lbs I kind of think heavy trade work may not be for you. Maybe a nice retail job might be more your speed?
Renee, I agree there is a right way and a wrong way to do things. Like you said it takes a while to get the hang of things. VG is giving up too damned easily because "it's hard". Don't encourage him to quit please. He needs to be a man and drop the whole Peter Pan syndrome. We have 120lb women working as insulators, pipe-fitters, boilermakers, electricians, hd wrenches, instrumentation mechanics, millwrights and machinists. He is quite capable of doing the work if he applies himself. He finds living at home at the age of 28, working p/t at Mickey D's and chasing girls in high school easier than growing up and being a man. His parents and others seem to condone such parasitical behaviour simply because he is "teenie weenie". No excuse in the Iron Chink's books.
Shen, not all people are cut out to work in the trades or work physical jobs.
BTW, I have to ask; why do you care what he does? Is he like your little brother or something? :lol:
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Probably more than you. :lol:
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BTW, I have to ask; why do you care what he does? Is he like your little brother or something? :lol:
Look, I got a pm from Fash saying pretty much the same thing. No, I am no relation to VG.
True, not everyone is cut out for the trades, but I hate to see someone give up so easy and for the same reason...I'm small. There are women that work in the trades who could just as easily have milked that excuse, but hey they got bills to pay and don't have mommy and daddy to fall back on. While it is true what he does with his life is none of my business, when he posts about it I am more than entitled to give my opinion. He may even benefit from my knowledge and experience too. However, it is his right to extend adolescence into his 40's if he so chooses and his parents continue to enable him. It is my choice to say just how parasitical I find such behaviour.
Just so you know, I don't hate VG. As I said before, it is not entirely his fault.
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BTW, I have to ask; why do you care what he does? Is he like your little brother or something? :lol:
Look, I got a pm from Fash saying pretty much the same thing. No, I am no relation to VG.
True, not everyone is cut out for the trades, but I hate to see someone give up so easy and for the same reason...I'm small. There are women that work in the trades who could just as easily have milked that excuse, but hey they got bills to pay and don't have mommy and daddy to fall back on. While it is true what he does with his life is none of my business, when he posts about it I am more than entitled to give my opinion. He may even benefit from my knowledge and experience too. However, it is his right to extend adolescence into his 40's if he so chooses and his parents continue to enable him. It is my choice to say just how parasitical I find such behaviour.
Just so you know, I don't hate VG. As I said before, it is not entirely his fault.
Yeah well giving your opinion and imparting some advice or knowledge is one thing; belittling the guy is another. Go easy on him, he's a little guy. :D
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Yeah well giving your opinion and imparting some advice or knowledge is one thing; belittling the guy is another. Go easy on him, he's a little guy. :D
Well OK, but what would you do if you had a 28 year old son still living with you and working p/t at Mickey D's. No plan to become independent and no interest in real f/t meaningful work? I would never allow that to happen with my son.
This brings up another issue too, namely overly doting Asian parents. Scared to push the baby bird out of the nest and let them soar.
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Yeah well giving your opinion and imparting some advice or knowledge is one thing; belittling the guy is another. Go easy on him, he's a little guy. :D
Well OK, but what would you do if you had a 28 year old son still living with you and working p/t at Mickey D's. No plan to become independent and no interest in real f/t meaningful work? I would never allow that to happen with my son.
This brings up another issue too, namely overly doting Asian parents. Scared to push the baby bird out of the nest and let them soar.
Hey as long as he was bringing home Big Macs for his mom regularly, I wouldn't care. :lol:
But seriously, each to his own gifts. Some people just take longer to grow up than others especially young males. Hell my older brother lived at home until he was almost 28. I was beginning to think that he was going to live at home until my parents either died or moved to a retirement home. The only difference is he had a decent job. He was just to freaking cheap to go out and get his own place. He had it easy at home; mommy cooked and did his laundry and he could come and go as he pleased. It must have really sucked for him when he finally got married and got a place of his own and had to live like a real person. :lol:
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Hey as long as he was bringing home Big Macs for his mom regularly, I wouldn't care. :lol:
But seriously, each to his own gifts. Some people just take longer to grow up than others especially young males. Hell my older brother lived at home until he was almost 28. I was beginning to think that he was going to live at home until my parents either died or moved to a retirement home. The only difference is he had a decent job. He was just to freaking cheap to go out and get his own place. He had it easy at home; mommy cooked and did his laundry and he could come and go as he pleased. It must have really sucked for him when he finally got married and got a place of his own and had to live like a real person. :lol:
No offense Renee, but I think the reason you're being so objective is because VG is not your son. I couldn't imagine a conservative chick like you saying nothing to your 28 y.o son living at home and working p/t at Mickey D's while chasing high school girls. I have a son and I can tell you I will NEVER allow that to happen. Your brother is lucky your mommy is not like me that's for sure.
However, you and Fash have made your point. He's not likely to start taking his life seriously just because I browbeat him. You're right too, some men are indeed late bloomers and there is not much you can do to change that.
I always wanted a brother or sister to play with when I was growing up, but if I was VG's older sister I think he may never come out of his room. Well maybe if he had earplugs in. Besides, I would probably tire of winning his fights for him.
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Yeah well giving your opinion and imparting some advice or knowledge is one thing; belittling the guy is another. Go easy on him, he's a little guy. :D
Well OK, but what would you do if you had a 28 year old son still living with you and working p/t at Mickey D's. No plan to become independent and no interest in real f/t meaningful work? I would never allow that to happen with my son.
This brings up another issue too, namely overly doting Asian parents. Scared to push the baby bird out of the nest and let them soar.
Hey as long as he was bringing home Big Macs for his mom regularly, I wouldn't care. :lol:
But seriously, each to his own gifts. Some people just take longer to grow up than others especially young males. Hell my older brother lived at home until he was almost 28. I was beginning to think that he was going to live at home until my parents either died or moved to a retirement home. The only difference is he had a decent job.
He must have had lots of money saved Ms. Renee?
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Hey as long as he was bringing home Big Macs for his mom regularly, I wouldn't care. :lol:
But seriously, each to his own gifts. Some people just take longer to grow up than others especially young males. Hell my older brother lived at home until he was almost 28. I was beginning to think that he was going to live at home until my parents either died or moved to a retirement home. The only difference is he had a decent job. He was just to freaking cheap to go out and get his own place. He had it easy at home; mommy cooked and did his laundry and he could come and go as he pleased. It must have really sucked for him when he finally got married and got a place of his own and had to live like a real person. :lol:
No offense Renee, but I think the reason you're being so objective is because VG is not your son. I couldn't imagine a conservative chick like you saying nothing to your 28 y.o son living at home and working p/t at Mickey D's while chasing high school girls. I have a son and I can tell you I will NEVER allow that to happen. Your brother is lucky your mommy is not like me that's for sure.
However, you and Fash have made your point. He's not likely to start taking his life seriously just because I browbeat him. You're right too, some men are indeed late bloomers and there is not much you can do to change that.
I always wanted a brother or sister to play with when I was growing up, but if I was VG's older sister I think he may never come out of his room. Well maybe if he had earplugs in. Besides, I would probably tire of winning his fights for him.
jesus..it's a good thing for him he didn't grow up in my house.........well maybe he should have...this issue would have been resolved before he was 10........believe me
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jesus..it's a good thing for him he didn't grow up in my house.........well maybe he should have...this issue would have been resolved before he was 10........believe me
Fash's response was no surprise, but I am surprised by Renee though. I was certain her opinion on this would have been an identical match to ours. However, I got thinking about something, I don't have a brother(or a sister). I grew up as an only child. They both understand what adolescent boys are really like in a way that I don't.
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Yeah well giving your opinion and imparting some advice or knowledge is one thing; belittling the guy is another. Go easy on him, he's a little guy. :D
Well OK, but what would you do if you had a 28 year old son still living with you and working p/t at Mickey D's. No plan to become independent and no interest in real f/t meaningful work? I would never allow that to happen with my son.
This brings up another issue too, namely overly doting Asian parents. Scared to push the baby bird out of the nest and let them soar.
Hey as long as he was bringing home Big Macs for his mom regularly, I wouldn't care. :lol:
But seriously, each to his own gifts. Some people just take longer to grow up than others especially young males. Hell my older brother lived at home until he was almost 28. I was beginning to think that he was going to live at home until my parents either died or moved to a retirement home. The only difference is he had a decent job. He was just to freaking cheap to go out and get his own place. He had it easy at home; mommy cooked and did his laundry and he could come and go as he pleased. It must have really sucked for him when he finally got married and got a place of his own and had to live like a real person. :lol:
That is true Renee, young guys mature slowly.
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jesus..it's a good thing for him he didn't grow up in my house.........well maybe he should have...this issue would have been resolved before he was 10........believe me
Fash's response was no surprise, but I am surprised by Renee though. I was certain her opinion on this would have been an identical match to ours. However, I got thinking about something, I don't have a brother(or a sister). I grew up as an only child. They both understand what adolescent boys are really like in a way that I don't.
I'm not saying I wouldn't say anything to him but if he was at least employed and I was seeing signs of him maturing I would just let it take its course. Adolescent males are a real pain in the ass. They want to fly on their own but they generally have no clue how to do it. It is a scientific fact that the male brain matures more slowly than the female brain. Their bodies also mature more slowly as well. It takes young males much longer to recognize that for every action they take or don't take there is a reaction. Some of them have very little grasp of consequence and it takes them an awful long time to get their shit together; some never do.
Case and point just look at our very own Oddstain. He is by all indication in his early to mid-30s but he still thinks and acts like a dumbass 16 year old. The trumped up bravado, his inability to get along with those who are different and his lack of understanding about women in general all point to a man with an adolescent brain that hasn't caught up with his proper role in society.
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Case and point just look at our very own Oddstain. He is by all indication in his early to mid-30s but he still thinks and acts like a dumbass 16 year old. The trumped up bravado, his inability to get along with those who are different and his lack of understanding about women in general all point to a man with an adolescent brain that hasn't caught up with his proper role in society.
I almost forgot that you studied early childhood education which of course makes you an expert on little boys like oddstain. As I said, I don't have any siblings like you and Fash do. I'm just a hardass with little tolerance for Peter Pan types.
The only problem with your approach is that VG is maturing in reverse. He had an adult job and gave it up. He has a kids job and only wants to work p/t at that. Then there is the interest in high school girls...fucking creepy!! No, his parents have to lay down the law or he will be living with them 5 or 10 years from now.
Renee, what would you do with someone exactly like VG is he was your kid?
Oh I´m so flattered...
We all act so maturely around here, now dont we? lol
Twisting of names is weally matule... lol
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Case and point just look at our very own Oddstain. He is by all indication in his early to mid-30s but he still thinks and acts like a dumbass 16 year old. The trumped up bravado, his inability to get along with those who are different and his lack of understanding about women in general all point to a man with an adolescent brain that hasn't caught up with his proper role in society.
I almost forgot that you studied early childhood education which of course makes you an expert on little boys like oddstain. As I said, I don't have any siblings like you and Fash do. I'm just a hardass with little tolerance for Peter Pan types.
The only problem with your approach is that VG is maturing in reverse. He had an adult job and gave it up. He has a kids job and only wants to work p/t at that. Then there is the interest in high school girls...fucking creepy!! No, his parents have to lay down the law or he will be living with them 5 or 10 years from now.
If what you are saying is true and he is regressing then I would probably have a sit down with him and find out just what the hell is going on. If he is regressing as you say then there is probably some influence at work like low self-esteme or perhaps mental illness such as depression an anxiety disorder or even something like Asperger Syndrome. It's kind of like bed wetting; people don't just pee where they sleep for no good reason; discovering that reason is the key to fixing the problem.
I kind of doubt that his inability to mature and his alleged penchant for chasing high school girls comes from his parent's permissive attitude. If what you are saying is true he lacks the motivation required to move on with his life and become a successful individual. I would have to find out why that is before I could address the issue.
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Twisting of names is weally matule... lol
Some of us do try, unfortunately you ain't one of them.
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I kind of doubt that his inability to mature and his alleged penchant for chasing high school girls comes from his parent's permissive attitude. If what you are saying is true he lacks the motivation required to move on with his life and become a successful individual. I would have to find out why that is before I could address the issue.
I would find out the reasons why he maturing in reverse...and then I'd kick his ass into manhood.
I do like VG though.
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I kind of doubt that his inability to mature and his alleged penchant for chasing high school girls comes from his parent's permissive attitude. If what you are saying is true he lacks the motivation required to move on with his life and become a successful individual. I would have to find out why that is before I could address the issue.
I would find out the reasons why he maturing in reverse...and then I'd kick his ass into manhood.
I do like VG though.
Maybe VanGuy would kick your ass.
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Twisting of names is weally matule... lol
Some of do try, unfortunately you ain't one of them.
Yea but you have been here alot longer than I have.
Try to be civil when you meet a commie asshole like eves whom defends N-Korean dictatorship and thinks of Russia as a rolemodel. The bitch has never been to Russia... The infrastructure is decayed at best.
She of course defends Serbs and hates NATO. General Mladic shouldnt have videotaped the massacre. :D
Arkans tigers.
Too bad that idiot greenskin bitch didnt get some sweetloving from western troops.
I´ve only seen weak people defending communism.. Like my sisters stalker, a well known commie whom used to stalk females and videotape people to make some behaviour researches.
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Twisting of names is weally matule... lol
Some of do try, unfortunately you ain't one of them.
Yea but you have been here alot longer than I have.
Try to be civil when you meet a commie asshole like eves whom defends N-Korean dictatorship and thinks of Russia as a rolemodel. The bitch has never been to Russia... The infrastructure is decayed at best.
She of course defends Serbs and hates NATO. General Mladic shouldnt have videotaped the massacre. :D
Arkans tigers.
Too bad that idiot greenskin bitch didnt get some sweetloving from western troops.
I´ve only seen weak people defending communism.. Like my sisters stalker, a well known commie whom used to stalk females and videotape people to make some behaviour researches.
We all know evs is not playing with a full deck. What does evs, communism, your sister or her stalker have to do with any of this? Try and stay on topic please. :roll:
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Some of do try, unfortunately you ain't one of them.
Yea but you have been here alot longer than I have.
Try to be civil when you meet a commie asshole like eves whom defends N-Korean dictatorship and thinks of Russia as a rolemodel. The bitch has never been to Russia... The infrastructure is decayed at best.
She of course defends Serbs and hates NATO. General Mladic shouldnt have videotaped the massacre. :D
Arkans tigers.
Too bad that idiot greenskin bitch didnt get some sweetloving from western troops.
I´ve only seen weak people defending communism.. Like my sisters stalker, a well known commie whom used to stalk females and videotape people to make some behaviour researches.
We all know evs is not playing with a full deck. What does evs, communism, your sister or her stalker have to do with any of this? Try and stay on topic please. :roll:
I´m just saying how stupid her shit is. And why there can be no civil conduct in the internet.
And first hand experience what kind of a people commies are... Eves is without a doubt living is squalor.
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And first hand experience what kind of a people commies are... Eves is without a doubt living is squalor.
It's her forum and she can do whatever the fuck she wants. If you don't like, then don't post there. Surely even a drunken idiot like you can figure that one out.
Hit the nerve there... lol
Why do you post there when you hate every1 there?
She can post whatever she wants but I still protest it.
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Why do you post there when you hate every1 there?
She can post whatever she wants but I still protest it.
I've wondered too what you are doing here and there..
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Why do you post there when you hate every1 there?
She can post whatever she wants but I still protest it.
I've wondered too what you are doing here and there..
Easy one, he's got no fucking life away from the bottle.
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Why do you post there when you hate every1 there?
She can post whatever she wants but I still protest it.
I've wondered too what you are doing here and there..
Theres no forum in the internet which doesnt turn into hate. Theres no forum where you can be civil with the exception of bluefrosts forum.
There are others in that forum.
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Why do you post there when you hate every1 there?
She can post whatever she wants but I still protest it.
I've wondered too what you are doing here and there..
Easy one, he's got no fucking life away from the bottle.
You do the same thing... smh.
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There's no forum on the internet which forces anyone to be hateful and uncivil. It's always a personal decision.
This may be the internet, but we still have to look at ourselves in the mirror.
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There's no forum on the internet which forces anyone to be hateful and uncivil. It's always a personal decision.
This may be the internet, but we still have to look at ourselves in the mirror.
The other thing too Romero is that oddstain can't distinguish between disagreement on issues and hate. However, I disagree with oddstain and I HATE him.
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There's no forum on the internet which forces anyone to be hateful and uncivil. It's always a personal decision.
This may be the internet, but we still have to look at ourselves in the mirror.
Yea but theres always some1 whom just shits on your posts even though every1 else agrees.
Hey, I defended female rights in afro-american forums and every1 agreed with me until some ahole blackdude started posting my pic everywhere and made fake accounts.
That caused the females to attack the dude to defend their whiteman odie. Turned into a hate forum.
I was for a good cause. :D
No matter what you do or say, the place turns into a warzone.
Even the metalhair men thread died because if an ethnic female likes metal music, she is a bedwench sellout.
Gotta retaliate.
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There's no forum on the internet which forces anyone to be hateful and uncivil. It's always a personal decision.
This may be the internet, but we still have to look at ourselves in the mirror.
The other thing too Romero is that oddstain can't distinguish between disagreement on issues and hate. However, I disagree with oddstain and I HATE him.
Hate is the first step to luuuuvvvv, shen li. lol
Racial slurs from both sides is pretty much hate. Killing babies, blasting heads into oblivion and threatning to kill me if I ever date his daughters is hating. lmao!
You're here, not some Afro-American forum.
You're going to have to cool it, Odie. We've been letting it slide but it can only go on for so long.
It can get nasty here, but you have got to keep family out of it.
You wouldn't want us to say nasty things about your family. So don't.
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You're going to have to cool it, Odie.
It can get nasty here, but you have got to keep family out of it.
You wouldn't want us to say nasty things about your family. So don't.
Yes, this is very true.
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You're going to have to cool it, Odie. We've been letting it slide but it can only go on for so long.
It can get nasty here, but you have got to keep family out of it.
Yea the bedwench sellout whore stuff really drills into the nerve..
Really not the same thing as during slavetimes because I´m clearly not her master. :D
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You're going to have to cool it, Odie. We've been letting it slide but it can only go on for so long.
It can get nasty here, but you have got to keep family out of it.
Yea the bedwench sellout whore stuff really drills into the nerve..
Really not the same thing as during slavetimes because I´m clearly not her master. :D
:roll:
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You're going to have to cool it, Odie. We've been letting it slide but it can only go on for so long.
It can get nasty here, but you have got to keep family out of it.
You wouldn't want us to say nasty things about your family. So don't.
I do not care because nothing Odinson posts is worth reading anyway.
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You're going to have to cool it, Odie. We've been letting it slide but it can only go on for so long.
It can get nasty here, but you have got to keep family out of it.
You wouldn't want us to say nasty things about your family. So don't.
I do not care because nothing Odinson posts is worth reading anyway.
Then stop dogging me.
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You're going to have to cool it, Odie. We've been letting it slide but it can only go on for so long.
It can get nasty here, but you have got to keep family out of it.
You wouldn't want us to say nasty things about your family. So don't.
I do not care because nothing Odinson posts is worth reading anyway.
Then stop dogging me.
Paranoid freak, he wasn't even talking to you.
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I do not care because nothing Odinson posts is worth reading anyway.
Then stop dogging me.
Paranoid freak, he wasn't even talking to you.
He speaks about me, dumbass.
Be mindful of your own doings before you start judging.
I wasnt talking to you either in the VF, I was talking about you... Yet you responded in here.
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Twisting of names is weally matule... lol
Some of do try, unfortunately you ain't one of them.
Yea but you have been here alot longer than I have.
Try to be civil when you meet a commie asshole like eves whom defends N-Korean dictatorship and thinks of Russia as a rolemodel. The bitch has never been to Russia... The infrastructure is decayed at best.
She of course defends Serbs and hates NATO. General Mladic shouldnt have videotaped the massacre. :D
Arkans tigers.
Too bad that idiot greenskin bitch didnt get some sweetloving from western troops.
I´ve only seen weak people defending communism.. Like my sisters stalker, a well known commie whom used to stalk females and videotape people to make some behaviour researches.
Look asshole, don't try and tell what evs is. Like many of us I know EXACTLY what she is and what she isn't. Besides she isn't even part of the equation so stop rambling like a God damn fool.
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You're going to have to cool it, Odie. We've been letting it slide but it can only go on for so long.
It can get nasty here, but you have got to keep family out of it.
Yea the bedwench sellout whore stuff really drills into the nerve..
Really not the same thing as during slavetimes because I´m clearly not her master. :D
You really are brain damaged. It's offical.
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You're going to have to cool it, Odie. We've been letting it slide but it can only go on for so long.
It can get nasty here, but you have got to keep family out of it.
Yea the bedwench sellout whore stuff really drills into the nerve..
Really not the same thing as during slavetimes because I´m clearly not her master. :D
You really are brain damaged. It's offical.
What... The A-A assholes think my place is candyland and every non-white female I have or talk to is a bedwench sellout.
One asshole demanded that Finland should pay reparations... What the fuck!?
I´m just laying groundwork in there if I ever come to the states side, atleast I got friends over there. I never get along with other dudes in the net so female friends it is..
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Some of do try, unfortunately you ain't one of them.
Yea but you have been here alot longer than I have.
Try to be civil when you meet a commie asshole like eves whom defends N-Korean dictatorship and thinks of Russia as a rolemodel. The bitch has never been to Russia... The infrastructure is decayed at best.
She of course defends Serbs and hates NATO. General Mladic shouldnt have videotaped the massacre. :D
Arkans tigers.
Too bad that idiot greenskin bitch didnt get some sweetloving from western troops.
I´ve only seen weak people defending communism.. Like my sisters stalker, a well known commie whom used to stalk females and videotape people to make some behaviour researches.
Look asshole, don't try and tell what evs is. Like many of us I know EXACTLY what she is and what she isn't. Besides she isn't even part of the equation so stop rambling like a God damn fool.
This thread went off-topic when peeps started talking about the midget..
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This retard is worse than Oscar Mayer.
lol