The tendency of taking cosmetic surgery is spreading throughout Asia. It is almost 80% of people in South Korea whether men or women admit to have taken a cosmetic surgery. Many Chinese girls have taken or are considering to take a cosmetic surgery in South Korea. I'm considering to take a rhinoplasty in SK too, but I'm swinging about this decision. what do u think about this?
			
			
			
				Quote from: "jaysings"
The tendency of taking cosmetic surgery is spreading throughout Asia. It is almost 80% of people in South Korea whether men or women admit to have taken a cosmetic surgery. Many Chinese girls have taken or are considering to take a cosmetic surgery in South Korea. I'm considering to take a rhinoplasty in SK too, but I'm swinging about this decision. what do u think about this?
Hello Jaysings, your are such a handsome young man, you don't need it..
But, to be honest, I have thought about rhinoplasty to get a better nose too..
I never liked my eyes either..
That is too much money to spend on myself..
I just accept my nose the way it is..
			 
			
			
				I always thought you should just wear what God gave you but if what you got makes you truly unhappy, then fix it. But if what you are contemplating a procedure simply because it is a fad or the current sheik thing to do, your money is probably better spent elsewhere.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
I always thought you should just wear what God gave you but if what you got makes you truly unhappy, then fix it. But if what you are contemplating a procedure simply because it is a fad or the current sheik thing to do, your money is probably better spent elsewhere.
Agreed, going under the knife to be stylish is not the best way to spend one's money.
			 
			
			
				Woman problem.
			
			
			
				You don't need it, jaysings!
Neither do you, Fash!
Of course there's always:

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Or: 

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				Quote from: "Romero"
You don't need it, jaysings!
Neither do you, Fash!
Of course there's always:

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Or: 

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I need something to hold my nose reading your posts Romero.....just kiddin!! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "jaysings"
The tendency of taking cosmetic surgery is spreading throughout Asia. It is almost 80% of people in South Korea whether men or women admit to have taken a cosmetic surgery. Many Chinese girls have taken or are considering to take a cosmetic surgery in South Korea. I'm considering to take a rhinoplasty in SK too, but I'm swinging about this decision. what do u think about this?
Hello Jaysings, your are such a handsome young man, you don't need it..
But, to be honest, I have thought about rhinoplasty to get a better nose too..
I never liked my eyes either..
That is too much money to spend on myself..
I just accept my nose the way it is..
the rhinoplasty in SK will cost u ten thousand including hotal and ticket. I don't think it is expensive to u
anyway, u look great in your avatar especially your eyes, which are as beautiful as diamonds in the sky
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
I always thought you should just wear what God gave you but if what you got makes you truly unhappy, then fix it. But if what you are contemplating a procedure simply because it is a fad or the current sheik thing to do, your money is probably better spent elsewhere.
I got large nostrils at which u can see straight
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
I always thought you should just wear what God gave you but if what you got makes you truly unhappy, then fix it. But if what you are contemplating a procedure simply because it is a fad or the current sheik thing to do, your money is probably better spent elsewhere.
Agreed, going under the knife to be stylish is not the best way to spend one's money.
when u realize that u can make a deal to own beauty by spending money, u will open your pocket
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Woman problem.
caucasian women don't care too much about handsomeness of a man?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Romero"
You don't need it, jaysings!
Neither do you, Fash!
Of course there's always:

(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://www.japantrendshop.com//img/glim/hana-tsun-nose-straightener-1.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://www.japantrendshop.com//img/glim%20...%20ener-1.jpg%22%3Ehttp://www.japantrendshop.com//img/glim/hana-tsun-nose-straightener-1.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Or: 

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it won't help shrinking nostrils but causing rhinitis instead
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "jaysings"
The tendency of taking cosmetic surgery is spreading throughout Asia. It is almost 80% of people in South Korea whether men or women admit to have taken a cosmetic surgery. Many Chinese girls have taken or are considering to take a cosmetic surgery in South Korea. I'm considering to take a rhinoplasty in SK too, but I'm swinging about this decision. what do u think about this?
Hello Jaysings, your are such a handsome young man, you don't need it..
But, to be honest, I have thought about rhinoplasty to get a better nose too..
I never liked my eyes either..
That is too much money to spend on myself..
I just accept my nose the way it is..
the rhinoplasty in SK will cost u ten thousand including hotal and ticket. I don't think it is expensive to u
anyway, u look great in your avatar especially your eyes, which are as beautiful as diamonds in the sky
I don't know dude. You are a hawt looking guy and if I was single and you and you asked me out I would be pretty happy. I think you need more confidence and you will have more women than days of the week.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
I need something to hold my nose reading your posts Romero.....just kiddin!! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
 :lol: 
Quote from: "jaysings"
it won't help shrinking nostrils but causing rhinitis instead
Yeah, there have been a lot of problems with these cheap, do-it-yourself jobs.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
I need something to hold my nose reading your posts Romero.....just kiddin!! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
 :lol: 
Quote from: "jaysings"
it won't help shrinking nostrils but causing rhinitis instead
Yeah, there have been a lot of problems with these cheap, do-it-yourself jobs.
Bottom line though Romero, Jay does NOT need expensive cosmetic surgery. You on the other hand.... ;)
			 
			
			
				Yeah, I don't think you can shrink your nostrils with plastic clamps and nose plugs. But I'll bet you can do a hell of a job with wire cutters and a glue gun. 
For cheap too. :lol:
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Bottom line though Romero, Jay does NOT need expensive cosmetic surgery. You on the other hand.... ;)
I'll never have that kind of money.  :(
Maybe I'll become jaysing's wingman so he can look twice as good for free!
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Yeah, I don't think you can shrink your nostrils with plastic clamps and nose plugs. But I'll bet you can do a hell of a job with wire cutters and a glue gun. 
For cheap too. :lol:
Ya gotta be careful with that quack stuff.
Woman becomes an AMPUTEE after botched butt injections by back alley doctor
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2143750/Woman-AMPUTEE-botched-butt-injections-alley-doctor.html
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
Yeah, I don't think you can shrink your nostrils with plastic clamps and nose plugs. But I'll bet you can do a hell of a job with wire cutters and a glue gun. 
For cheap too. :lol:
Ya gotta be careful with that quack stuff.
Woman becomes an AMPUTEE after botched butt injections by back alley doctor
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2143750/Woman-AMPUTEE-botched-butt-injections-alley-doctor.html
That's almost as bad as the so-called "pumping parties" some women have.
 
"They want the look, but don't want to pay for professional injections or implants. Instead they get someone to inject them with industrial grade silicone, the same stuff used for furniture polish and mechanical equipment."
"Sometimes it's mixed with motor oil, concrete, or super glue. And if it doesn't kill you, there could be other complications."
http://www.wmctv.com/story/20969435/a-look-ahead-pumping-partiesa-disturbing-beauty-trend
Pretty whacky stuff.  Here I am spending a good part of my time trying to minimize my huge ass and elsewhere you have women using concrete and super glue to make theirs bigger. 
Am I doing something wrong????  :lol:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
Yeah, I don't think you can shrink your nostrils with plastic clamps and nose plugs. But I'll bet you can do a hell of a job with wire cutters and a glue gun. 
For cheap too. :lol:
Ya gotta be careful with that quack stuff.
Woman becomes an AMPUTEE after botched butt injections by back alley doctor
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2143750/Woman-AMPUTEE-botched-butt-injections-alley-doctor.html
That's almost as bad as the so-called "pumping parties" some women have.
 
"They want the look, but don't want to pay for professional injections or implants. Instead they get someone to inject them with industrial grade silicone, the same stuff used for furniture polish and mechanical equipment."
"Sometimes it's mixed with motor oil, concrete, or super glue. And if it doesn't kill you, there could be other complications."
http://www.wmctv.com/story/20969435/a-look-ahead-pumping-partiesa-disturbing-beauty-trend
Pretty whacky stuff.  Here I am spending a good part of my time trying to minimize my huge ass and elsewhere you have women using concrete and super glue to make theirs bigger. 
Am I doing something wrong????  :lol:
Motor oil, concrete and super glue injections into their buttocks? What on earth are people smoking to make them try something so insane?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Ya gotta be careful with that quack stuff.
Woman becomes an AMPUTEE after botched butt injections by back alley doctor
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2143750/Woman-AMPUTEE-botched-butt-injections-alley-doctor.html
That's almost as bad as the so-called "pumping parties" some women have.
 
"They want the look, but don't want to pay for professional injections or implants. Instead they get someone to inject them with industrial grade silicone, the same stuff used for furniture polish and mechanical equipment."
"Sometimes it's mixed with motor oil, concrete, or super glue. And if it doesn't kill you, there could be other complications."
http://www.wmctv.com/story/20969435/a-look-ahead-pumping-partiesa-disturbing-beauty-trend
Pretty whacky stuff.  Here I am spending a good part of my time trying to minimize my huge ass and elsewhere you have women using concrete and super glue to make theirs bigger. 
Am I doing something wrong????  :lol:
Motor oil, concrete and super glue injections into their buttocks? What on earth are people smoking to make them try something so insane?
Your guess is as good as mine.
I always thought eating a whole crap load of ice cream worked the best but what the fuck do I know. :lol:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
That's almost as bad as the so-called "pumping parties" some women have.
 
"They want the look, but don't want to pay for professional injections or implants. Instead they get someone to inject them with industrial grade silicone, the same stuff used for furniture polish and mechanical equipment."
"Sometimes it's mixed with motor oil, concrete, or super glue. And if it doesn't kill you, there could be other complications."
http://www.wmctv.com/story/20969435/a-look-ahead-pumping-partiesa-disturbing-beauty-trend
Pretty whacky stuff.  Here I am spending a good part of my time trying to minimize my huge ass and elsewhere you have women using concrete and super glue to make theirs bigger. 
Am I doing something wrong????  :lol:
Motor oil, concrete and super glue injections into their buttocks? What on earth are people smoking to make them try something so insane?
Your guess is as good as mine.
I always thought eating a whole crap load of ice cream worked the best but what the fuck do I know. :lol:
Tastes better than motor oil and super glue too.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
Yeah, I don't think you can shrink your nostrils with plastic clamps and nose plugs. But I'll bet you can do a hell of a job with wire cutters and a glue gun. 
For cheap too. :lol:
Ya gotta be careful with that quack stuff.
Woman becomes an AMPUTEE after botched butt injections by back alley doctor
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2143750/Woman-AMPUTEE-botched-butt-injections-alley-doctor.html
That's almost as bad as the so-called "pumping parties" some women have.
 
"They want the look, but don't want to pay for professional injections or implants. Instead they get someone to inject them with industrial grade silicone, the same stuff used for furniture polish and mechanical equipment."
"Sometimes it's mixed with motor oil, concrete, or super glue. And if it doesn't kill you, there could be other complications."
http://www.wmctv.com/story/20969435/a-look-ahead-pumping-partiesa-disturbing-beauty-trend
Pretty whacky stuff.  Here I am spending a good part of my time trying to minimize my huge ass and elsewhere you have women using concrete and super glue to make theirs bigger. 
Am I doing something wrong????  :lol:
I remember reading something about that oh maybe a year or so ago. Some foolish woman had to have her butt cheeks amputated they were so infected.
			 
			
			
				I've seen multiple articles about it over the past few years. In fact I remember reading that one women was using a concoction of silicone, rubber cement and the tire repair stuff usually known a "Fix-O-Flat"
"Fix-o-Flat"; now that is prophetic.  :shock: :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
I've seen multiple articles about it over the past few years. In fact I remember reading that one women was using a concoction of silicone, rubber cement and the tire repair stuff usually known a "Fix-O-Flat"
"Fix-o-Flat"; now that is prophetic.  :shock: :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
That is just too fucking funny and sad at the same time.  :lol:   :(
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
I've seen multiple articles about it over the past few years. In fact I remember reading that one women was using a concoction of silicone, rubber cement and the tire repair stuff usually known a "Fix-O-Flat"
"Fix-o-Flat"; now that is prophetic.  :shock: :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
That is just too fucking funny and sad at the same time.  :lol:   :(
Yes it's sad but hey, don't we all want the big round ass without the spare tire to go with it?  :lol:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
I've seen multiple articles about it over the past few years. In fact I remember reading that one women was using a concoction of silicone, rubber cement and the tire repair stuff usually known a "Fix-O-Flat"
"Fix-o-Flat"; now that is prophetic.  :shock: :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
I remember that. The transvestite that did the work looked like he or she had done some work on themselves.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Woman problem.
caucasian women don't care too much about handsomeness of a man?
I think many do care about a man's physical attractiveness jaysings..
It really depends on the woman I think...not all Caucasian women are the same.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Woman problem.
caucasian women don't care too much about handsomeness of a man?
Caucasian women love big muscled men in work man outfit and niggers. 
This whore is the reason why we have so many useless jungle bunny men here.

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Some white women have sex with donkeys so beastiality with a head hunting jungle bunny is not a big deal...
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Woman problem.
caucasian women don't care too much about handsomeness of a man?
Caucasian women love big muscled men in work man outfit and niggers. 
This whore is the reason why we have so many useless jungle bunny men here.

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Some white women have sex with donkeys so beastiality with a head hunting jungle bunny is not a big deal...
How vulgar, I don't believe most white women are even close to being that deviant.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "jaysings"
caucasian women don't care too much about handsomeness of a man?
Caucasian women love big muscled men in work man outfit and niggers. 
This whore is the reason why we have so many useless jungle bunny men here.

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Some white women have sex with donkeys so beastiality with a head hunting jungle bunny is not a big deal...
How vulgar, I don't believe most white women are even close to being that deviant.
You dont understand them... Hundreds of years of white superiority has done its work. The coloured man is completely powerless and therefore a tool, a pet... Worshipping anything blonde.
Female power over a man.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Caucasian women love big muscled men in work man outfit and niggers. 
This whore is the reason why we have so many useless jungle bunny men here.

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Some white women have sex with donkeys so beastiality with a head hunting jungle bunny is not a big deal...
How vulgar, I don't believe most white women are even close to being that deviant.
You dont understand them... Hundreds of years of white superiority has done its work. The coloured man is completely powerless and therefore a tool, a pet... Worshipping anything blonde.
Female power over a man.
I am not talking about that Odi..
I meant this statement Some white women have sex with donkeys so beastiality .
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
How vulgar, I don't believe most white women are even close to being that deviant.
You dont understand them... Hundreds of years of white superiority has done its work. The coloured man is completely powerless and therefore a tool, a pet... Worshipping anything blonde.
Female power over a man.
I am not talking about that Odi..
I meant this statement Some white women have sex with donkeys so beastiality .
It is beastiality. If that coon doesnt act like finnish, I´ll wipe my ass with his resume... We do not need some rapper word-smiths.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
You dont understand them... Hundreds of years of white superiority has done its work. The coloured man is completely powerless and therefore a tool, a pet... Worshipping anything blonde.
Female power over a man.
I am not talking about that Odi..
I meant this statement Some white women have sex with donkeys so beastiality .
It is beastiality. If that coon doesnt act like finnish, I´ll wipe my ass with his resume... We do not need some rapper word-smiths.
 :roll:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
I am not talking about that Odi..
I meant this statement Some white women have sex with donkeys so beastiality .
It is beastiality. If that coon doesnt act like finnish, I´ll wipe my ass with his resume... We do not need some rapper word-smiths.
 :roll:
We should take this conversation to other direction... 
How goes your day? You and Shen Li are the people I do care about in here. I know you wish me to die but I have never been one to give up.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
It is beastiality. If that coon doesnt act like finnish, I´ll wipe my ass with his resume... We do not need some rapper word-smiths.
 :roll:
We should take this conversation to other direction... 
How goes your day? You and Shen Li are the people I do care about in here. I know you wish me to die but I have never been one to give up.
I hope your new job works out for you.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
 :roll:
We should take this conversation to other direction... 
How goes your day? You and Shen Li are the people I do care about in here. I know you wish me to die but I have never been one to give up.
I hope your new job works out for you.
I will survive. Luck seems to favour me. God favours fools.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
We should take this conversation to other direction... 
How goes your day? You and Shen Li are the people I do care about in here. I know you wish me to die but I have never been one to give up.
I hope your new job works out for you.
I will survive. Luck seems to favour me. God favours fools.
Do you start Monday Odi?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
I hope your new job works out for you.
I will survive. Luck seems to favour me. God favours fools.
Do you start Monday Odi?
Next month.. I will supervise the building of a new refinery. Then I get a new job at the mine.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Hello Jaysings, your are such a handsome young man, you don't need it..
But, to be honest, I have thought about rhinoplasty to get a better nose too..
I never liked my eyes either..
That is too much money to spend on myself..
I just accept my nose the way it is..
the rhinoplasty in SK will cost u ten thousand including hotal and ticket. I don't think it is expensive to u
anyway, u look great in your avatar especially your eyes, which are as beautiful as diamonds in the sky
I don't know dude. You are a hawt looking guy and if I was single and you and you asked me out I would be pretty happy. I think you need more confidence and you will have more women than days of the week.
I feel fine with my face except my nose, although every people has a different idea about beauty. I'm glad to have your encouragement
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
I need something to hold my nose reading your posts Romero.....just kiddin!! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
 :lol: 
Quote from: "jaysings"
it won't help shrinking nostrils but causing rhinitis instead
Yeah, there have been a lot of problems with these cheap, do-it-yourself jobs.
it's worth trying though. a cosmetic surgeon told me that human nose will be growing in whole life. maybe people who try that way will have their noses reshaped
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Hello Jaysings, your are such a handsome young man, you don't need it..
But, to be honest, I have thought about rhinoplasty to get a better nose too..
I never liked my eyes either..
That is too much money to spend on myself..
I just accept my nose the way it is..
the rhinoplasty in SK will cost u ten thousand including hotal and ticket. I don't think it is expensive to u
anyway, u look great in your avatar especially your eyes, which are as beautiful as diamonds in the sky
I don't know dude. You are a hawt looking guy and if I was single and you and you asked me out I would be pretty happy. I think you need more confidence and you will have more women than days of the week.
He is a pretty male.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Bottom line though Romero, Jay does NOT need expensive cosmetic surgery. You on the other hand.... ;)
I'll never have that kind of money.  :(
Maybe I'll become jaysing's wingman so he can look twice as good for free!
come on,most caucasians have a better looking
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
Yeah, I don't think you can shrink your nostrils with plastic clamps and nose plugs. But I'll bet you can do a hell of a job with wire cutters and a glue gun. 
For cheap too. :lol:
Ya gotta be careful with that quack stuff.
Woman becomes an AMPUTEE after botched butt injections by back alley doctor
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2143750/Woman-AMPUTEE-botched-butt-injections-alley-doctor.html
That's almost as bad as the so-called "pumping parties" some women have.
 
"They want the look, but don't want to pay for professional injections or implants. Instead they get someone to inject them with industrial grade silicone, the same stuff used for furniture polish and mechanical equipment."
"Sometimes it's mixed with motor oil, concrete, or super glue. And if it doesn't kill you, there could be other complications."
http://www.wmctv.com/story/20969435/a-look-ahead-pumping-partiesa-disturbing-beauty-trend
Pretty whacky stuff.  Here I am spending a good part of my time trying to minimize my huge ass and elsewhere you have women using concrete and super glue to make theirs bigger. 
Am I doing something wrong????  :lol:
those treatments are pretty cheap in SK or China. why didn't they consider about that idea?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Woman problem.
caucasian women don't care too much about handsomeness of a man?
I think many do care about a man's physical attractiveness jaysings..
It really depends on the woman I think...not all Caucasian women are the same.
it will be a different part of a man's attractiveness. caucasian women may like having men with a good built body
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Woman problem.
caucasian women don't care too much about handsomeness of a man?
Caucasian women love big muscled men in work man outfit and niggers. 
This whore is the reason why we have so many useless jungle bunny men here.

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Some white women have sex with donkeys so beastiality with a head hunting jungle bunny is not a big deal...
that's what I meant. u clarified my point for me
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
How vulgar, I don't believe most white women are even close to being that deviant.
You dont understand them... Hundreds of years of white superiority has done its work. The coloured man is completely powerless and therefore a tool, a pet... Worshipping anything blonde.
Female power over a man.
I am not talking about that Odi..
I meant this statement Some white women have sex with donkeys so beastiality .
Oddstain's woman has sex with a "donkey" every time Oddy sticks his thing in her and she's not even white. Go figure.  :lol:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Ya gotta be careful with that quack stuff.
Woman becomes an AMPUTEE after botched butt injections by back alley doctor
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2143750/Woman-AMPUTEE-botched-butt-injections-alley-doctor.html
That's almost as bad as the so-called "pumping parties" some women have.
 
"They want the look, but don't want to pay for professional injections or implants. Instead they get someone to inject them with industrial grade silicone, the same stuff used for furniture polish and mechanical equipment."
"Sometimes it's mixed with motor oil, concrete, or super glue. And if it doesn't kill you, there could be other complications."
http://www.wmctv.com/story/20969435/a-look-ahead-pumping-partiesa-disturbing-beauty-trend
Pretty whacky stuff.  Here I am spending a good part of my time trying to minimize my huge ass and elsewhere you have women using concrete and super glue to make theirs bigger. 
Am I doing something wrong????  :lol:
those treatments are pretty cheap in SK or China. why didn't they consider about that idea?
That's just it Jay, I don't think the idiots that inject cement into their asses are considering anything.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Renee"
That's almost as bad as the so-called "pumping parties" some women have.
 
"They want the look, but don't want to pay for professional injections or implants. Instead they get someone to inject them with industrial grade silicone, the same stuff used for furniture polish and mechanical equipment."
"Sometimes it's mixed with motor oil, concrete, or super glue. And if it doesn't kill you, there could be other complications."
http://www.wmctv.com/story/20969435/a-look-ahead-pumping-partiesa-disturbing-beauty-trend
Pretty whacky stuff.  Here I am spending a good part of my time trying to minimize my huge ass and elsewhere you have women using concrete and super glue to make theirs bigger. 
Am I doing something wrong????  :lol:
those treatments are pretty cheap in SK or China. why didn't they consider about that idea?
That's just it Jay, I don't think the idiots that inject cement into their asses are considering anything.
Apparently being a "hard ass" isn't just an attitude anymore.  :shock:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"
those treatments are pretty cheap in SK or China. why didn't they consider about that idea?
That's just it Jay, I don't think the idiots that inject cement into their asses are considering anything.
Apparently being a "hard ass" isn't just an attitude anymore.  :shock:
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Renee"
That's almost as bad as the so-called "pumping parties" some women have.
 
"They want the look, but don't want to pay for professional injections or implants. Instead they get someone to inject them with industrial grade silicone, the same stuff used for furniture polish and mechanical equipment."
"Sometimes it's mixed with motor oil, concrete, or super glue. And if it doesn't kill you, there could be other complications."
http://www.wmctv.com/story/20969435/a-look-ahead-pumping-partiesa-disturbing-beauty-trend
Pretty whacky stuff.  Here I am spending a good part of my time trying to minimize my huge ass and elsewhere you have women using concrete and super glue to make theirs bigger. 
Am I doing something wrong????  :lol:
those treatments are pretty cheap in SK or China. why didn't they consider about that idea?
That's just it Jay, I don't think the idiots that inject cement into their asses are considering anything.
those idiots are courageous in this case :lol:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Renee"
That's almost as bad as the so-called "pumping parties" some women have.
 
"They want the look, but don't want to pay for professional injections or implants. Instead they get someone to inject them with industrial grade silicone, the same stuff used for furniture polish and mechanical equipment."
"Sometimes it's mixed with motor oil, concrete, or super glue. And if it doesn't kill you, there could be other complications."
http://www.wmctv.com/story/20969435/a-look-ahead-pumping-partiesa-disturbing-beauty-trend
Pretty whacky stuff.  Here I am spending a good part of my time trying to minimize my huge ass and elsewhere you have women using concrete and super glue to make theirs bigger. 
Am I doing something wrong????  :lol:
those treatments are pretty cheap in SK or China. why didn't they consider about that idea?
That's just it Jay, I don't think the idiots that inject cement into their asses are considering anything.
their brains couldn't function well before taking this decision
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"
those treatments are pretty cheap in SK or China. why didn't they consider about that idea?
That's just it Jay, I don't think the idiots that inject cement into their asses are considering anything.
Apparently being a "hard ass" isn't just an attitude anymore.  :shock:
I think this injected ass will never get soft since then
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
That's just it Jay, I don't think the idiots that inject cement into their asses are considering anything.
Apparently being a "hard ass" isn't just an attitude anymore.  :shock:
I think this injected ass will never get soft since then
They could die from injecting all those household poisons in their asses.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
That's just it Jay, I don't think the idiots that inject cement into their asses are considering anything.
Apparently being a "hard ass" isn't just an attitude anymore.  :shock:
I think this injected ass will never get soft since then
Because of the cement jaysings?
			 
			
			
				The standard of beauty is the european one... Everywhere.
Butts and thighs can be made bigger with excercise.
Cosmetic surgeries just remind me of the Frankenstein monster. I understand if it is done to fix some abnormality.
			
			
			
				I know Oriental guys want cosmetic surgery because they think it will make them look more masculine and desirable to white women.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Kala"
I know Oriental guys want cosmetic surgery because they think it will make them look more masculine and desirable to white women.
Fuck off!
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Kala"
I know Oriental guys want cosmetic surgery because they think it will make them look more masculine and desirable to white women.
Fuck off!
Double ditto!!
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Kala"
I know Oriental guys want cosmetic surgery because they think it will make them look more masculine and desirable to white women.
Fuck off!
Double ditto!!
You know I´m not going anywhere.  :lol:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Renee"
Apparently being a "hard ass" isn't just an attitude anymore.  :shock:
I think this injected ass will never get soft since then
They could die from injecting all those household poisons in their asses.
what u commented makes it no mist around. I thought they are still alive after that silly decision.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Renee"
Apparently being a "hard ass" isn't just an attitude anymore.  :shock:
I think this injected ass will never get soft since then
Because of the cement jaysings?
cement is a poisonous substance. I doubt it not if I knew they injected liquid cement to reshape their asses
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Kala"
I know Oriental guys want cosmetic surgery because they think it will make them look more masculine and desirable to white women.
dear Mr.Kala we nearly all have a different point of beauty to our own face. Personality is more likely to capture a white lady's heart
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
The standard of beauty is the european one... Everywhere.
Butts and thighs can be made bigger with excercise.
Cosmetic surgeries just remind me of the Frankenstein monster. I understand if it is done to fix some abnormality.
the god is fair to every race. he gave black strength, gave white beauty, and gave yellow intelligence, so as an one of the yellow,what we can do to own the beauty most europeans abuse is the cosmetic surgery
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"
I think this injected ass will never get soft since then
They could die from injecting all those household poisons in their asses.
what u commented makes it no mist around. I thought they are still alive after that silly decision.
They may be alive Jay, but they are hideously deformed.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "jaysings"
The tendency of taking cosmetic surgery is spreading throughout Asia. It is almost 80% of people in South Korea whether men or women admit to have taken a cosmetic surgery. Many Chinese girls have taken or are considering to take a cosmetic surgery in South Korea. I'm considering to take a rhinoplasty in SK too, but I'm swinging about this decision. what do u think about this?
    I have been th inking of getting rhinoplasty for some time now too
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Rambo Wong"
Quote from: "jaysings"
The tendency of taking cosmetic surgery is spreading throughout Asia. It is almost 80% of people in South Korea whether men or women admit to have taken a cosmetic surgery. Many Chinese girls have taken or are considering to take a cosmetic surgery in South Korea. I'm considering to take a rhinoplasty in SK too, but I'm swinging about this decision. what do u think about this?
    I have been th inking of getting rhinoplasty for some time now too
Just get a hooker, you pathetic little virgin.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Odinson"
The standard of beauty is the european one... Everywhere.
Butts and thighs can be made bigger with excercise.
Cosmetic surgeries just remind me of the Frankenstein monster. I understand if it is done to fix some abnormality.
the god is fair to every race. he gave black strength, gave white beauty, and gave yellow intelligence, so as an one of the yellow,what we can do to own the beauty most europeans abuse is the cosmetic surgery
Do you really believe these stereotypes jay?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Rambo Wong"
Quote from: "jaysings"
The tendency of taking cosmetic surgery is spreading throughout Asia. It is almost 80% of people in South Korea whether men or women admit to have taken a cosmetic surgery. Many Chinese girls have taken or are considering to take a cosmetic surgery in South Korea. I'm considering to take a rhinoplasty in SK too, but I'm swinging about this decision. what do u think about this?
    I have been th inking of getting rhinoplasty for some time now too
How will that be possible when you have your head shoved 2 feet up your ass?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Rambo Wong"
Quote from: "jaysings"
The tendency of taking cosmetic surgery is spreading throughout Asia. It is almost 80% of people in South Korea whether men or women admit to have taken a cosmetic surgery. Many Chinese girls have taken or are considering to take a cosmetic surgery in South Korea. I'm considering to take a rhinoplasty in SK too, but I'm swinging about this decision. what do u think about this?
    I have been th inking of getting rhinoplasty for some time now too
How will that be possible when you have your head shoved 2 feet up your ass?
Renee, you sinophobic, fucked in the head, crap and drool, blah, blah, blah.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Odinson"
The standard of beauty is the european one... Everywhere.
Butts and thighs can be made bigger with excercise.
Cosmetic surgeries just remind me of the Frankenstein monster. I understand if it is done to fix some abnormality.
the god is fair to every race. he gave black strength, gave white beauty, and gave yellow intelligence, so as an one of the yellow,what we can do to own the beauty most europeans abuse is the cosmetic surgery
Wrong... We are 2 times stronger than blacks... That is why we rule wrestling, boxing and MMA. We arent as beautiful as a asian or black male but we are more bigger and strånger. We are handsome... Not beautiful.
And the god seems to give us intelligence also since we do not study as much asians do and you beat us by couple of points... Congratulations!  :lol:  :lol:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Rambo Wong"
    I have been th inking of getting rhinoplasty for some time now too
How will that be possible when you have your head shoved 2 feet up your ass?
Renee, you sinophobic, fucked in the head, crap and drool, blah, blah, blah.
Maybe I should get some of that good rhinoplasty?  :lol:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
How will that be possible when you have your head shoved 2 feet up your ass?
Renee, you sinophobic, fucked in the head, crap and drool, blah, blah, blah.
Maybe I should get some of that good rhinoplasty?  :lol:
Blaaaahhhhh.....
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "jaysings"
the god is fair to every race. he gave black strength, gave white beauty, and gave yellow intelligence, so as an one of the yellow,what we can do to own the beauty most europeans abuse is the cosmetic surgery
Nah, all races have strength, beauty and intelligence. Asians do not need cosmetic surgery! 
Quote from: "Odinson"
Wrong... We are 2 times stronger than blacks
You wish! If this were true, why are you so frightened of them?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "jaysings"
the god is fair to every race. he gave black strength, gave white beauty, and gave yellow intelligence, so as an one of the yellow,what we can do to own the beauty most europeans abuse is the cosmetic surgery
Nah, all races have strength, beauty and intelligence. Asians do not need cosmetic surgery! 
Quote from: "Odinson"
Wrong... We are 2 times stronger than blacks
You wish! If this were true, why are you so frightened of them?
Prolly has a microscopic dick just like his brain.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "jaysings"
the god is fair to every race. he gave black strength, gave white beauty, and gave yellow intelligence, so as an one of the yellow,what we can do to own the beauty most europeans abuse is the cosmetic surgery
Nah, all races have strength, beauty and intelligence. Asians do not need cosmetic surgery! 
Quote from: "Odinson"
Wrong... We are 2 times stronger than blacks
You wish! If this were true, why are you so frightened of them?
I´m only a one man...  Eventually I will be overwhelmed... I do not want my home to be turned to Malmö, Turku, Detroit, Chicago etc.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
How will that be possible when you have your head shoved 2 feet up your ass?
Renee, you sinophobic, fucked in the head, crap and drool, blah, blah, blah.
Maybe I should get some of that good rhinoplasty?  :lol:
As long as you don't start talking like Wambo after the surgery.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "jaysings"
the god is fair to every race. he gave black strength, gave white beauty, and gave yellow intelligence, so as an one of the yellow,what we can do to own the beauty most europeans abuse is the cosmetic surgery
Nah, all races have strength, beauty and intelligence. Asians do not need cosmetic surgery! 
Quote from: "Odinson"
Wrong... We are 2 times stronger than blacks
You wish! If this were true, why are you so frightened of them?
Prolly has a microscopic dick just like his brain.
You liked it, rice-eye...
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Romero"
Nah, all races have strength, beauty and intelligence. Asians do not need cosmetic surgery! 
You wish! If this were true, why are you so frightened of them?
Prolly has a microscopic dick just like his brain.
You liked it, rice-eye...
Whatever ya say Odie. :roll:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "jaysings"
the god is fair to every race. he gave black strength, gave white beauty, and gave yellow intelligence, so as an one of the yellow,what we can do to own the beauty most europeans abuse is the cosmetic surgery
Nah, all races have strength, beauty and intelligence. Asians do not need cosmetic surgery! 
Quote from: "Odinson"
Wrong... We are 2 times stronger than blacks
You wish! If this were true, why are you so frightened of them?
This is 100% true. 
 :)
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Odinson"
The standard of beauty is the european one... Everywhere.
Butts and thighs can be made bigger with excercise.
Cosmetic surgeries just remind me of the Frankenstein monster. I understand if it is done to fix some abnormality.
the god is fair to every race. he gave black strength, gave white beauty, and gave yellow intelligence, so as an one of the yellow,what we can do to own the beauty most europeans abuse is the cosmetic surgery
Only a racist, sinophobic, anti semitic, fucked in the head, fruitcake, crap n' drool, nutcase, spamming liar like jaysings thinks whites are more beautiful and calls Asians yellow.
			 
			
			
				Why is it always about fear with Homero? 
If you protest something, then you fear it?
Is Shen Li afraid of lefties? Is Obvious Li afraid of Gambino?
I fucking hate the black culture! Saggy pants, rap, stupid caps, thuglife... All of it! Its like a cancer..
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
They could die from injecting all those household poisons in their asses.
what u commented makes it no mist around. I thought they are still alive after that silly decision.
They may be alive Jay, but they are hideously deformed.
deformation won't trouble them in finding a best way to get their own ass restored as long as they are still alive
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
They could die from injecting all those household poisons in their asses.
what u commented makes it no mist around. I thought they are still alive after that silly decision.
They may be alive Jay, but they are hideously deformed.
deformation won't trouble them in finding a best way to get their own ass restored as long as they are still alive recover
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
They could die from injecting all those household poisons in their asses.
what u commented makes it no mist around. I thought they are still alive after that silly decision.
They may be alive Jay, but they are hideously deformed.
deformation won't trouble them in finding a best way to get their own ass restored as long as they are still alive recover
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Rambo Wong"
Quote from: "jaysings"
The tendency of taking cosmetic surgery is spreading throughout Asia. It is almost 80% of people in South Korea whether men or women admit to have taken a cosmetic surgery. Many Chinese girls have taken or are considering to take a cosmetic surgery in South Korea. I'm considering to take a rhinoplasty in SK too, but I'm swinging about this decision. what do u think about this?
    I have been th inking of getting rhinoplasty for some time now too
what is the problem with your nose?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Odinson"
The standard of beauty is the european one... Everywhere.
Butts and thighs can be made bigger with excercise.
Cosmetic surgeries just remind me of the Frankenstein monster. I understand if it is done to fix some abnormality.
the god is fair to every race. he gave black strength, gave white beauty, and gave yellow intelligence, so as an one of the yellow,what we can do to own the beauty most europeans abuse is the cosmetic surgery
Do you really believe these stereotypes jay?
I don't know. maybe I need more time to study about different races
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Odinson"
The standard of beauty is the european one... Everywhere.
Butts and thighs can be made bigger with excercise.
Cosmetic surgeries just remind me of the Frankenstein monster. I understand if it is done to fix some abnormality.
the god is fair to every race. he gave black strength, gave white beauty, and gave yellow intelligence, so as an one of the yellow,what we can do to own the beauty most europeans abuse is the cosmetic surgery
Wrong... We are 2 times stronger than blacks... That is why we rule wrestling, boxing and MMA. We arent as beautiful as a asian or black male but we are more bigger and strånger. We are handsome... Not beautiful.
And the god seems to give us intelligence also since we do not study as much asians do and you beat us by couple of points... Congratulations!  :lol:  :lol:
no offense, I just brought that point out based on my experiences
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Odinson"
The standard of beauty is the european one... Everywhere.
Butts and thighs can be made bigger with excercise.
Cosmetic surgeries just remind me of the Frankenstein monster. I understand if it is done to fix some abnormality.
the god is fair to every race. he gave black strength, gave white beauty, and gave yellow intelligence, so as an one of the yellow,what we can do to own the beauty most europeans abuse is the cosmetic surgery
Wrong... We are 2 times stronger than blacks... That is why we rule wrestling, boxing and MMA. We arent as beautiful as a asian or black male but we are more bigger and strånger. We are handsome... Not beautiful.
And the god seems to give us intelligence also since we do not study as much asians do and you beat us by couple of points... Congratulations!  :lol:  :lol:
no offense, I just brought that point out based on my experiences
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Prolly has a microscopic dick just like his brain.
You liked it, rice-eye...
Whatever ya say Odie. :roll:
This 1inch penetrator gave you some of those good vibrations.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "jaysings"
the god is fair to every race. he gave black strength, gave white beauty, and gave yellow intelligence, so as an one of the yellow,what we can do to own the beauty most europeans abuse is the cosmetic surgery
Nah, all races have strength, beauty and intelligence. Asians do not need cosmetic surgery! 
Quote from: "Odinson"
Wrong... We are 2 times stronger than blacks
You wish! If this were true, why are you so frightened of them?
every race always has a standout feature although I agree about your point
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "jaysings"
the god is fair to every race. he gave black strength, gave white beauty, and gave yellow intelligence, so as an one of the yellow,what we can do to own the beauty most europeans abuse is the cosmetic surgery
Wrong... We are 2 times stronger than blacks... That is why we rule wrestling, boxing and MMA. We arent as beautiful as a asian or black male but we are more bigger and strånger. We are handsome... Not beautiful.
And the god seems to give us intelligence also since we do not study as much asians do and you beat us by couple of points... Congratulations!  :lol:  :lol:
no offense, I just brought that point out based on my experiences
asians study too much. Genetically asian males should be able to compete against eastern and northern europeans in a strong man competition. The interests just seem to be different,
			 
			
			
				Genetics... Nordics are more stronger than any other people on the globe.
Africans are faster.
Its not politically correct to say these things. Anything that praises whites is racist.
Thanks for this goes to cocksucking loser greenies.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "jaysings"
the god is fair to every race. he gave black strength, gave white beauty, and gave yellow intelligence, so as an one of the yellow,what we can do to own the beauty most europeans abuse is the cosmetic surgery
Nah, all races have strength, beauty and intelligence. Asians do not need cosmetic surgery! 
Quote from: "Odinson"
Wrong... We are 2 times stronger than blacks
You wish! If this were true, why are you so frightened of them?
This is 100% true. 
 :)
 :?  feel embarrassed at that inappropriate reply
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Wrong... We are 2 times stronger than blacks... That is why we rule wrestling, boxing and MMA. We arent as beautiful as a asian or black male but we are more bigger and strånger. We are handsome... Not beautiful.
And the god seems to give us intelligence also since we do not study as much asians do and you beat us by couple of points... Congratulations!  :lol:  :lol:
no offense, I just brought that point out based on my experiences
asians study too much. Genetically asian males should be able to compete against eastern and northern europeans in a strong man competition. The interests just seem to be different,
Yuan dynasty cavalry did in 11th century
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "jaysings"
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no offense, I just brought that point out based on my experiences
asians study too much. Genetically asian males should be able to compete against eastern and northern europeans in a strong man competition. The interests just seem to be different,
Yuan dynasty cavalry did in 11th century
Military tactics.. Germans were alot bigger than the romans yet romans defeated them.
I´m talking about weightlifting...
			 
			
			
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Nah, all races have strength, beauty and intelligence. Asians do not need cosmetic surgery! 
You wish! If this were true, why are you so frightened of them?
This is 100% true. 
 :)
 :?  feel embarrassed at that inappropriate reply
Please don't feel embarrassed jaysings..
You posted and some people disagreed with what you wrote..
That is what a forum is all about.
			 
			
			
				No race of people should alter their appearance artificially...
Same goes to culture.
Wheres the salt in travelling if everybody and everything looks the same?
			
			
			
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 :?  feel embarrassed at that inappropriate reply
No worries there Jay. :)  :)  :)
			 
			
			
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 :?  feel embarrassed at that inappropriate reply
No worries there Jay. :)  :)  :)
Hey, I was being real good... 
You chicks are all the same... lol
It is a good thing you females love us gorillas... Otherwise we would all alone.
			 
			
			
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 :?  feel embarrassed at that inappropriate reply
No worries there Jay. :)  :)  :)
Hey, I was being real good... 
You chicks are all the same... lol
It is a good thing you females love us gorillas... Otherwise we would all alone.
I was talking about jaysings not you Odi.
			 
			
			
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No worries there Jay. :)  :)  :)
Hey, I was being real good... 
You chicks are all the same... lol
It is a good thing you females love us gorillas... Otherwise we would all alone.
I was talking about jaysings not you Odi.
Hey I´m just flying solo here...
			 
			
			
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asians study too much. Genetically asian males should be able to compete against eastern and northern europeans in a strong man competition. The interests just seem to be different,
Yuan dynasty cavalry did in 11th century
Military tactics.. Germans were alot bigger than the romans yet romans defeated them.
I´m talking about weightlifting...
individual doesn't mean a society
			 
			
			
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Yuan dynasty cavalry did in 11th century
Military tactics.. Germans were alot bigger than the romans yet romans defeated them.
I´m talking about weightlifting...
individual doesn't mean a society
Odinson is an alcoholic retard, ignore him Jay.
			 
			
			
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This is 100% true. 
 :)
 :?  feel embarrassed at that inappropriate reply
Please don't feel embarrassed jaysings..
You posted and some people disagreed with what you wrote..
That is what a forum is all about.
I feel embarrassed because u seemed taking my comment as racist's
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Military tactics.. Germans were alot bigger than the romans yet romans defeated them.
I´m talking about weightlifting...
individual doesn't mean a society
Odinson is an alcoholic retard, ignore him Jay.
u stay up so late
			 
			
			
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individual doesn't mean a society
Odinson is an alcoholic retard, ignore him Jay.
u stay up so late
Yep, I was excited after the game and couldn't sleep.
			 
			
			
				I´m a "luonnon lapsi" which means the child of nature.
Doesnt mean that I´m a child or for nature... Means that I´m open.
			
			
			
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 :?  feel embarrassed at that inappropriate reply
Please don't feel embarrassed jaysings..
You posted and some people disagreed with what you wrote..
That is what a forum is all about.
I feel embarrassed because u seemed taking my comment as racist's
I don't think you meant to be racist because I don't think you believe that blacks are stronger or whites better looking than Asians.
			 
			
			
				No surgeries! Makes you look like the frankenstein monster...
			
			
			
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No surgeries! Makes you look like the frankenstein monster...
Too much can, but in moderation it should not be a problem..
For some people it can be an addiction.

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No surgeries! Makes you look like the frankenstein monster...
Too much can, but in moderation it should not be a problem..
For some people it can be an addiction.

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Would I surgically alter myself... Certainly not. I´ll die looking like this...
We are all created this way... You of all people should know not to doubt gods work..
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Odinson"
No surgeries! Makes you look like the frankenstein monster...
Too much can, but in moderation it should not be a problem..
For some people it can be an addiction.

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Would I surgically alter myself... Certainly not. I´ll die looking like this...
We are all created this way... You of all people should know not to doubt gods work..
Nowhere does the Bible condemn undergoing elective self-improvement procedures.. 
But while it's silent on cosmetic surgery, God's Word has much to say about the condition of our heart and the upkeep of our body, his temple..
Ultimately, your motivation, expectations, and safety must determine what you decide to do..
Bottom line: You need to be sure you're applying the correct medicine for what ails you.
			 
			
			
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Too much can, but in moderation it should not be a problem..
For some people it can be an addiction.

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Would I surgically alter myself... Certainly not. I´ll die looking like this...
We are all created this way... You of all people should know not to doubt gods work..
Nowhere does the Bible condemn undergoing elective self-improvement procedures.. 
But while it's silent on cosmetic surgery, God's Word has much to say about the condition of our heart and the upkeep of our body, his temple..
Ultimately, your motivation, expectations, and safety must determine what you decide to do..
Bottom line: You need to be sure you're applying the correct medicine for what ails you.
So the work of the creator of the universe is somehow faulty... Have you had any cosmetic surgeries?
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Odinson"
Would I surgically alter myself... Certainly not. I´ll die looking like this...
We are all created this way... You of all people should know not to doubt gods work..
Nowhere does the Bible condemn undergoing elective self-improvement procedures.. 
But while it's silent on cosmetic surgery, God's Word has much to say about the condition of our heart and the upkeep of our body, his temple..
Ultimately, your motivation, expectations, and safety must determine what you decide to do..
Bottom line: You need to be sure you're applying the correct medicine for what ails you.
So the work of the creator of the universe is somehow faulty... Have you had any cosmetic surgeries?
There is nothing in the bible about elective surgeries..
I have never had any cosmetic surgery, but I have thought about making my eyes appear bigger and a higher bridge for my nose..
I decided against it though.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Fashionista"
Nowhere does the Bible condemn undergoing elective self-improvement procedures.. 
But while it's silent on cosmetic surgery, God's Word has much to say about the condition of our heart and the upkeep of our body, his temple..
Ultimately, your motivation, expectations, and safety must determine what you decide to do..
Bottom line: You need to be sure you're applying the correct medicine for what ails you.
So the work of the creator of the universe is somehow faulty... Have you had any cosmetic surgeries?
There is nothing in the bible about elective surgeries..
I have never had any cosmetic surgery, but I have thought about making my eyes appear bigger and a higher bridge for my nose.
Now why would you do that??
			 
			
			
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So the work of the creator of the universe is somehow faulty... Have you had any cosmetic surgeries?
There is nothing in the bible about elective surgeries..
I have never had any cosmetic surgery, but I have thought about making my eyes appear bigger and a higher bridge for my nose.
Now why would you do that??
It would not be wise to spend my family's money for personal reasons of vanity.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Fashionista"
There is nothing in the bible about elective surgeries..
I have never had any cosmetic surgery, but I have thought about making my eyes appear bigger and a higher bridge for my nose.
Now why would you do that??
It would not be wise to spend my family's money for personal reasons of vanity.
You didnt answer my question.
			 
			
			
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Now why would you do that??
It would not be wise to spend my family's money for personal reasons of vanity.
You didnt answer my question.
You asked why I didn`t go through with the surgery and I answered your question.
			 
			
			
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It would not be wise to spend my family's money for personal reasons of vanity.
You didnt answer my question.
You asked why I didn`t go through with the surgery and I answered your question.
No... I asked why would you alter your appearance...
			 
			
			
				I´m interested in the mentality which drives you into such surgeries.
			
			
			
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You didnt answer my question.
You asked why I didn`t go through with the surgery and I answered your question.
No... I asked why would you alter your appearance...
I didn't have a surgery, but I do wear blue contacts on occasion, but I stopped colouring my hair many years ago.
			 
			
			
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I´m interested in the mentality which drives you into such surgeries.
It's very simple Oddie; some people simply do not feel very good about themselves. This may be cause by childhood emotional trauma, a physical accident, genetics or simply a desire to be perceived as more attractive. There is nothing wrong with wanting in wanting to improve your physical appearance so long as you don't obsess about it and take it to ridiculous lengths. It's all a matter of how you perceive your appearance and how you think you can improve that appearance. 
To be honest I've had some work done over the past 5 years; 3 surgery's in total. I lost a tremendous amount of weight was left with a few areas were my skin simply wouldn't tighten up no matter how much physical exercise I did, so had some excess skin tucked and tightened. It wasn't something major or drastic and I didn't need to do it for my physical health but at the time, for the sake of my emotional self-image, I felt it was the right thing to do.
			 
			
			
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I´m interested in the mentality which drives you into such surgeries.
It's very simple Oddie; some people simply do not feel very good about themselves. This may be cause by childhood emotional trauma, a physical accident, genetics or simply a desire to be perceived as more attractive. There is nothing wrong with wanting in wanting to improve your physical appearance so long as you don't obsess about it and take it to ridiculous lengths. It's all a matter of how you perceive your appearance and how you think you can improve that appearance. 
To be honest I've had some work done over the past 5 years; 3 surgery's in total. I lost a tremendous amount of weight was left with a few areas were my skin simply wouldn't tighten up no matter how much physical exercise I did, so had some excess skin tucked and tightened. It wasn't something major or drastic and I didn't need to do it for my physical health but at the time, for the sake of my emotional self-image, I felt it was the right thing to do.
I forgot about your precedures Renee. Were you satisfied with the results?
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Renee"
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I´m interested in the mentality which drives you into such surgeries.
It's very simple Oddie; some people simply do not feel very good about themselves. This may be cause by childhood emotional trauma, a physical accident, genetics or simply a desire to be perceived as more attractive. There is nothing wrong with wanting in wanting to improve your physical appearance so long as you don't obsess about it and take it to ridiculous lengths. It's all a matter of how you perceive your appearance and how you think you can improve that appearance. 
To be honest I've had some work done over the past 5 years; 3 surgery's in total. I lost a tremendous amount of weight was left with a few areas were my skin simply wouldn't tighten up no matter how much physical exercise I did, so had some excess skin tucked and tightened. It wasn't something major or drastic and I didn't need to do it for my physical health but at the time, for the sake of my emotional self-image, I felt it was the right thing to do.
I forgot about your precedures Renee. Were you satisfied with the results?
Overall yes; because I had an excellent surgeon and the work need wasn't that extensive. I've seen older women who have lost the kind of weight I did and had to have pounds and pounds of excess skin removed but luckily I didn't need to have that much done, thank God.
 
All in all, after healing there was little or no scaring and I felt a lot better about my appearance. But hindsight being 20/20 I'm not sure I would have had it done if I had it to do all over again. At the time I was firmly convinced that I wouldn't gain the weight back but unfortunately that has not proven to be true. While I haven't gained all the weight back I've gained enough to think that maybe the procedures would have been unnecessary if I had just put them off for a year or so.
  
In other words maybe I would have grew back into my skin if I just been a little more realistic about my self-control. Once a fat broad, always a fat broad.  :lol:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Overall yes; because I had an excellent surgeon and the work need wasn't that extensive. I've seen older women who have lost the kind of weight I did and had to have pounds and pounds of excess skin removed but luckily I didn't need to have that much done, thank God.
 
All in all, after healing there was little or no scaring and I felt a lot better about my appearance. But hindsight being 20/20 I'm not sure I would have had it done if I had it to do all over again. At the time I was firmly convinced that I wouldn't gain the weight back but unfortunately that has not proven to be true. While I haven't gained all the weight back I've gained enough to think that maybe the procedures would have been unnecessary if I had just put them off for a year or so.
In other words maybe I would have grew back into my skin if I just been a little more realistic about my self-control. Once a fat broad, always a fat broad.  :lol:
OK, you've answered my question in advance. Were you your ideal weight after the operation?
			 
			
			
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Overall yes; because I had an excellent surgeon and the work need wasn't that extensive. I've seen older women who have lost the kind of weight I did and had to have pounds and pounds of excess skin removed but luckily I didn't need to have that much done, thank God.
 
All in all, after healing there was little or no scaring and I felt a lot better about my appearance. But hindsight being 20/20 I'm not sure I would have had it done if I had it to do all over again. At the time I was firmly convinced that I wouldn't gain the weight back but unfortunately that has not proven to be true. While I haven't gained all the weight back I've gained enough to think that maybe the procedures would have been unnecessary if I had just put them off for a year or so.
In other words maybe I would have grew back into my skin if I just been a little more realistic about my self-control. Once a fat broad, always a fat broad.  :lol:
OK, you've answered my question in advance. Were you your ideal weight after the operation?
Ideal medically or what I thought was ideal? If it's ideal medically then no, far from it, those BMI charts are for the birds. But I was almost down to the weight I was in college when I played softball so realistically for me; I felt that it was as close to ideal as I could ask for with resorting to more drastic measures like WLS.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Ideal medically or what I thought was ideal? If it's ideal medically then no, far from it, those BMI charts are for the birds. But I was almost down to the weight I was in college when I played softball so realistically for me; I felt that it was as close to ideal as I could ask for with resorting to more drastic measures like WLS.
Yeah, I guess I should have added that little qualifier. 
WLS?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
Ideal medically or what I thought was ideal? If it's ideal medically then no, far from it, those BMI charts are for the birds. But I was almost down to the weight I was in college when I played softball so realistically for me; I felt that it was as close to ideal as I could ask for with resorting to more drastic measures like WLS.
Yeah, I guess I should have added that little qualifier. 
WLS?
Weight loss surgery.
			 
			
			
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You asked why I didn`t go through with the surgery and I answered your question.
No... I asked why would you alter your appearance...
I didn't have a surgery, but I do wear blue contacts on occasion, but I stopped colouring my hair many years ago.
Pitääkö se saatana rautalangasta vääntää! "Do I have to fucking bend iron to make you understand!"
Why are you doing this? I think it is because we europeans indoctrinate other races and therefore causing insecurity in other races. Your husband loves you the way you are or he loves you the way he wants you to be.
The latter is not love and is superficial...
Do not surgically alter your appearance...
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Odinson"
I´m interested in the mentality which drives you into such surgeries.
It's very simple Oddie; some people simply do not feel very good about themselves. This may be cause by childhood emotional trauma, a physical accident, genetics or simply a desire to be perceived as more attractive. There is nothing wrong with wanting in wanting to improve your physical appearance so long as you don't obsess about it and take it to ridiculous lengths. It's all a matter of how you perceive your appearance and how you think you can improve that appearance. 
To be honest I've had some work done over the past 5 years; 3 surgery's in total. I lost a tremendous amount of weight was left with a few areas were my skin simply wouldn't tighten up no matter how much physical exercise I did, so had some excess skin tucked and tightened. It wasn't something major or drastic and I didn't need to do it for my physical health but at the time, for the sake of my emotional self-image, I felt it was the right thing to do.
That is honest, Renee. :) 
I just get frankenstein monster vibe from plastic surgery...
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
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Quote from: "Renee"
Ideal medically or what I thought was ideal? If it's ideal medically then no, far from it, those BMI charts are for the birds. But I was almost down to the weight I was in college when I played softball so realistically for me; I felt that it was as close to ideal as I could ask for with resorting to more drastic measures like WLS.
Yeah, I guess I should have added that little qualifier. 
WLS?
Weight loss surgery.
Gotcha. Does that mean stomach stapling and sucking out fat cells or are there are other methods too?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Yeah, I guess I should have added that little qualifier. 
WLS?
Weight loss surgery.
Gotcha. Does that mean stomach stapling and sucking out fat cells or are there are other methods too?
They don't call it stomach stapling anymore; it's called gastric by-pass and in my opinion it's butchery for quick cash. 1 in 200 people die from the procedure and it has a very high rate of severe complications. There is also another method I've looked into and I'm seriously considering; it's called a gastric lap band. It's not a real radical surgery and can be reversed at any time. It involves placing a saline filled band around the upper part of the stomach which essential makes your stomach smaller. It is generally done as an out- patient procedure/ same day surgery. It's has decent results provided you follow the restrictive diet that you need to be on. My aunt had it done about two years ago and she's lost over a third of her original body weight. Unfortunately she is a soda junkie and carbonated beverages stretch the band and allow the stomach to increase in size so the band so over time the band loses its effectiveness. I know other people that have had it done and they have lost almost half their original body weight. Like any kind of weight loss tool it is only as effective as the the effort the person is willing to put into it.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
They don't call it stomach stapling anymore; it's called gastric by-pass and in my opinion it's butchery for quick cash. 1 in 200 people die from the procedure and it has a very high rate of severe complications. There is also another method I've looked into and I'm seriously considering; it's called a gastric lap band. It's not a real radical surgery and can be reversed at any time. It involves placing a saline filled band around the upper part of the stomach which essential makes your stomach smaller. It is generally done as an out- patient procedure/ same day surgery. It's has decent results provided you follow the restrictive diet that you need to be on. My aunt had it done about two years ago and she's lost over a third of her original body weight. Unfortunately she is a soda junkie and carbonated beverages stretch the band and allow the stomach to increase in size so the band so over time the band loses its effectiveness. I know other people that have had it done and they have lost almost half their original body weight. Like any kind of weight loss tool it is only as effective as the the effort the person is willing to put into it.
I'm less than 15 pounds from MY ideal weight for a woman five foot eight, so I would NEVER consider anything this radical. However, from what you tell me the second one sounds less extreme. Still, ya gotta be able to stick to a diet/exercise program.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
They don't call it stomach stapling anymore; it's called gastric by-pass and in my opinion it's butchery for quick cash. 1 in 200 people die from the procedure and it has a very high rate of severe complications. There is also another method I've looked into and I'm seriously considering; it's called a gastric lap band. It's not a real radical surgery and can be reversed at any time. It involves placing a saline filled band around the upper part of the stomach which essential makes your stomach smaller. It is generally done as an out- patient procedure/ same day surgery. It's has decent results provided you follow the restrictive diet that you need to be on. My aunt had it done about two years ago and she's lost over a third of her original body weight. Unfortunately she is a soda junkie and carbonated beverages stretch the band and allow the stomach to increase in size so the band so over time the band loses its effectiveness. I know other people that have had it done and they have lost almost half their original body weight. Like any kind of weight loss tool it is only as effective as the the effort the person is willing to put into it.
I'm less than 15 pounds from MY ideal weight for a woman five foot eight, so I would NEVER consider anything this radical. However, from what you tell me the second one sounds less extreme. Still, ya gotta be able to stick to a diet/exercise program.
The exercise part is no problem. I've always been active even when I was at my heaviest. I didn't always have an easy time of it but I didn't let it slow me down either. It's funny because most people think that very heavy people just sit around like slugs all day. They get that perception from watching what I call "Desperate Lardass TV shows". Programs  like "MY 600lb Life" or "The Biggest Loser" and other sensationalized crap like that don't really show how the average supersized person lives or acts. 
 
 The diet part is another story; I have a problem with food. I have a love/hate relationship with it and it stems from childhood. That's the real issue for me and unfortunately it's one that won't go away simply thru surgery.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
The exercise part is no problem. I've always been active even when I was at my heaviest. I didn't always have an easy time of it but I didn't let it slow me down either. It's funny because most people think that very heavy people just sit around like slugs all day. They get that perception from watching what I call "Desperate Lardass TV shows". Programs  like "MY 600lb Life" or "The Biggest Loser" and other sensationalized crap like that don't really show how the average supersized person lives or acts. 
 
 The diet part is another story I have a problem with food I have a love/hate relationship with it and it stems from childhood. That's the real issue for me and unfortunately it's one that won't go away simply thru surgery.
In that case, I wouldn't consider any surgery until that issue is dealt with. I can relate you know as food is central to our culture.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Renee"
The exercise part is no problem. I've always been active even when I was at my heaviest. I didn't always have an easy time of it but I didn't let it slow me down either. It's funny because most people think that very heavy people just sit around like slugs all day. They get that perception from watching what I call "Desperate Lardass TV shows". Programs  like "MY 600lb Life" or "The Biggest Loser" and other sensationalized crap like that don't really show how the average supersized person lives or acts. 
 
 The diet part is another story I have a problem with food I have a love/hate relationship with it and it stems from childhood. That's the real issue for me and unfortunately it's one that won't go away simply thru surgery.
In that case, I wouldn't consider any surgery until that issue is dealt with. I can relate you know as food is central to our culture.
I know the surgery won't address the mental addiction but it is a tool to help people deal with it. With any weight loss surgery the patient has to go thru and pass a psychological profile before the surgery can be performed. It's done to evaluate whether or not you are mentally prepared for the required lifestyle change weight loss surgery forces upon you. If the doctor thinks you are not ready they recommend you to a counselor who can help you work thru your issues. I've only just started considering the surgery and the process from start to finish is long and involved.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
I know the surgery won't address the mental addiction but it is a tool to help people deal with it. With any weight loss surgery the patient has to go thru and pass a psychological profile before the surgery can be performed. It's done to evaluate whether or not you are mentally prepared for the required lifestyle change weight loss surgery forces upon you. If the doctor thinks you are not ready they recommend you to a counselor who can help you work thru your issues. I've only just started considering the surgery and the process from start to finish is long and involved.
I figured there had to be some profiling done to see if one is a suitable candidate or not. No point in carving people up if they are not prepared to hold up their end of the bargain.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
No... I asked why would you alter your appearance...
I didn't have a surgery, but I do wear blue contacts on occasion, but I stopped colouring my hair many years ago.
Pitääkö se saatana rautalangasta vääntää! "Do I have to fucking bend iron to make you understand!"
Why are you doing this? I think it is because we europeans indoctrinate other races and therefore causing insecurity in other races. Your husband loves you the way you are or he loves you the way he wants you to be.
The latter is not love and is superficial...
Do not surgically alter your appearance...
Yes, that is most of the reason..
I went to a private Christian high school that was 95% white at the time and the ideal of beauty never looked like me..
I thought if I looked white people would think I was beautiful too..
It affected my self-esteem into my early twenties.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Yes, that is most of the reason..
I went to a private Christian high school that was 95% white at the time and the ideal of beauty never looked like me..
I thought if I looked white people would think I was beautiful too..
It affected my self-esteem into my early twenties.
I had identity issues as any immigrant, minority kid experiences, but not to your degree. You had it baaaaaad!!
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Yes, that is most of the reason..
I went to a private Christian high school that was 95% white at the time and the ideal of beauty never looked like me..
I thought if I looked white people would think I was beautiful too..
It affected my self-esteem into my early twenties.
I had identity issues as any immigrant, minority kid experiences, but not to your degree. You had it baaaaaad!!
I desparately wanted to fit in as a teen girl.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
I didn't have a surgery, but I do wear blue contacts on occasion, but I stopped colouring my hair many years ago.
Pitääkö se saatana rautalangasta vääntää! "Do I have to fucking bend iron to make you understand!"
Why are you doing this? I think it is because we europeans indoctrinate other races and therefore causing insecurity in other races. Your husband loves you the way you are or he loves you the way he wants you to be.
The latter is not love and is superficial...
Do not surgically alter your appearance...
Yes, that is most of the reason..
I went to a private Christian high school that was 95% white at the time and the ideal of beauty never looked like me..
I thought if I looked white people would think I was beautiful too..
It affected my self-esteem into my early twenties.
this sample of rhinoplasty done in SK can gain your credit on it
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				Quote from: "Odinson"
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Quote from: "Odinson"
Would I surgically alter myself... Certainly not. I´ll die looking like this...
We are all created this way... You of all people should know not to doubt gods work..
Nowhere does the Bible condemn undergoing elective self-improvement procedures.. 
But while it's silent on cosmetic surgery, God's Word has much to say about the condition of our heart and the upkeep of our body, his temple..
Ultimately, your motivation, expectations, and safety must determine what you decide to do..
Bottom line: You need to be sure you're applying the correct medicine for what ails you.
So the work of the creator of the universe is somehow faulty... Have you had any cosmetic surgeries?
to some degree u can say that again. like the shape of my nose is imperfect and makes some colour out of my beauty
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Odinson"
I´m interested in the mentality which drives you into such surgeries.
It's very simple Oddie; some people simply do not feel very good about themselves. This may be cause by childhood emotional trauma, a physical accident, genetics or simply a desire to be perceived as more attractive. There is nothing wrong with wanting in wanting to improve your physical appearance so long as you don't obsess about it and take it to ridiculous lengths. It's all a matter of how you perceive your appearance and how you think you can improve that appearance. 
To be honest I've had some work done over the past 5 years; 3 surgery's in total. I lost a tremendous amount of weight was left with a few areas were my skin simply wouldn't tighten up no matter how much physical exercise I did, so had some excess skin tucked and tightened. It wasn't something major or drastic and I didn't need to do it for my physical health but at the time, for the sake of my emotional self-image, I felt it was the right thing to do.
in my story, I was adorable and as beautiful as a little girl because of my appearance and skin colour. I was like a doll with white skin. now I have become a really grown man losing attraction from people around. what only I have to do for reemploying the beauty is to accept a rhinoplasty
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
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Yeah, I guess I should have added that little qualifier. 
WLS?
Weight loss surgery.
Gotcha. Does that mean stomach stapling and sucking out fat cells or are there are other methods too?
the suck out fat cells can be implanted into your breast and no graft rejective reaction afterward
			 
			
			
				I used to be called the caveman in my early teens... It didnt feel nice at first... I was good at carpenting, smithing, sports, history, english, maths etc. 
Made me feel like disformed.
I didnt see it at first but the females thought I was a stud.
I just kept strong the whole time because I know that when you keep your flag up, something good will happen. I will never give up.. When things go bad, theres always a way to fix it.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Yes, that is most of the reason..
I went to a private Christian high school that was 95% white at the time and the ideal of beauty never looked like me..
I thought if I looked white people would think I was beautiful too..
It affected my self-esteem into my early twenties.
I had identity issues as any immigrant, minority kid experiences, but not to your degree. You had it baaaaaad!!
You have identity issues today. I do like to play with those insecurities but you are still my queen.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "jaysings"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Odinson"
I´m interested in the mentality which drives you into such surgeries.
It's very simple Oddie; some people simply do not feel very good about themselves. This may be cause by childhood emotional trauma, a physical accident, genetics or simply a desire to be perceived as more attractive. There is nothing wrong with wanting in wanting to improve your physical appearance so long as you don't obsess about it and take it to ridiculous lengths. It's all a matter of how you perceive your appearance and how you think you can improve that appearance. 
To be honest I've had some work done over the past 5 years; 3 surgery's in total. I lost a tremendous amount of weight was left with a few areas were my skin simply wouldn't tighten up no matter how much physical exercise I did, so had some excess skin tucked and tightened. It wasn't something major or drastic and I didn't need to do it for my physical health but at the time, for the sake of my emotional self-image, I felt it was the right thing to do.
in my story, I was adorable and as beautiful as a little girl because of my appearance and skin colour. I was like a doll with white skin. now I have become a really grown man losing attraction from people around. what only I have to do for reemploying the beauty is to accept a rhinoplasty
You are a very handsome young man jaysings..
Where are you thinking about getting rhinoplasty done? In South Korea?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Yes, that is most of the reason..
I went to a private Christian high school that was 95% white at the time and the ideal of beauty never looked like me..
I thought if I looked white people would think I was beautiful too..
It affected my self-esteem into my early twenties.
I had identity issues as any immigrant, minority kid experiences, but not to your degree. You had it baaaaaad!!
I desparately wanted to fit in as a teen girl.
i spend a tremendous amount of time studying people..the Human Condition as it were....i am always amazed at the insecurities that people have regarding their appearance.....often, very often those that are beautiful, talented, kind and the best catch consider themselves unworthy and outcasts from the incrowd....how silly....as for me....i have an ego as big as chicage, never could give a shit what anybody thought about what i looked like or what i did...and was always my own in crowd.....so as far as i am concerned "fuck em if the can't take a joke".......they are not worthy of your presence
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
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Quote from: "Fashionista"
I didn't have a surgery, but I do wear blue contacts on occasion, but I stopped colouring my hair many years ago.
Pitääkö se saatana rautalangasta vääntää! "Do I have to fucking bend iron to make you understand!"
Why are you doing this? I think it is because we europeans indoctrinate other races and therefore causing insecurity in other races. Your husband loves you the way you are or he loves you the way he wants you to be.
The latter is not love and is superficial...
Do not surgically alter your appearance...
Yes, that is most of the reason..
I went to a private Christian high school that was 95% white at the time and the ideal of beauty never looked like me..
I thought if I looked white people would think I was beautiful too..
It affected my self-esteem into my early twenties.
Lots of girls would have envied you too.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Yes, that is most of the reason..
I went to a private Christian high school that was 95% white at the time and the ideal of beauty never looked like me..
I thought if I looked white people would think I was beautiful too..
It affected my self-esteem into my early twenties.
I had identity issues as any immigrant, minority kid experiences, but not to your degree. You had it baaaaaad!!
I desparately wanted to fit in as a teen girl.
It is obvious that Fashionista is a stooge of Gary Choking the Chicken Oak not to think you are the one with mental problems with all of these insult thread generated and bumped by you and your other stooges Obvious Li and Shen Li.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Hornung"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
I had identity issues as any immigrant, minority kid experiences, but not to your degree. You had it baaaaaad!!
I desparately wanted to fit in as a teen girl.
It is obvious that Fashionista is a stooge of Gary Choking the Chicken Oak not to think you are the one with mental problems with all of these insult thread generated and bumped by you and your other stooges Obvious Li and Shen Li.
Hornung, the only insults I read are coming from you.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
I didn't have a surgery, but I do wear blue contacts on occasion, but I stopped colouring my hair many years ago.
Pitääkö se saatana rautalangasta vääntää! "Do I have to fucking bend iron to make you understand!"
Why are you doing this? I think it is because we europeans indoctrinate other races and therefore causing insecurity in other races. Your husband loves you the way you are or he loves you the way he wants you to be.
The latter is not love and is superficial...
Do not surgically alter your appearance...
Yes, that is most of the reason..
I went to a private Christian high school that was 95% white at the time and the ideal of beauty never looked like me..
I thought if I looked white people would think I was beautiful too..
It affected my self-esteem into my early twenties.
When I travelled into asia, the people charged me more... The empire fell 70years ago and I´m not a brit. A swedish woman told me that I was paying over price so I turned the ship around. 
They screwed me and I was running out of money... 
And then in africa. The locals offered their best females to us. They thought that I was a commander of the troops. I was really horny due to the lack of females but I treated the offerings with at most respect.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
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Quote from: "Odinson"
Pitääkö se saatana rautalangasta vääntää! "Do I have to fucking bend iron to make you understand!"
Why are you doing this? I think it is because we europeans indoctrinate other races and therefore causing insecurity in other races. Your husband loves you the way you are or he loves you the way he wants you to be.
The latter is not love and is superficial...
Do not surgically alter your appearance...
Yes, that is most of the reason..
I went to a private Christian high school that was 95% white at the time and the ideal of beauty never looked like me..
I thought if I looked white people would think I was beautiful too..
It affected my self-esteem into my early twenties.
When I travelled into asia, the people charged me more... The empire fell 70years ago and I´m not a brit. A swedish woman told me that I was paying over price so I turned the ship around. 
They screwed me and I was running out of money... 
And then in africa. The locals offered their best females to us. They thought that I was a commander of the troops. I was really horny due to the lack of females but I treated the offerings with at most respect.
That is more common in South East Asia than in newly developed countries like Taiwan.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Yes, that is most of the reason..
I went to a private Christian high school that was 95% white at the time and the ideal of beauty never looked like me..
I thought if I looked white people would think I was beautiful too..
It affected my self-esteem into my early twenties.
When I travelled into asia, the people charged me more... The empire fell 70years ago and I´m not a brit. A swedish woman told me that I was paying over price so I turned the ship around. 
They screwed me and I was running out of money... 
And then in africa. The locals offered their best females to us. They thought that I was a commander of the troops. I was really horny due to the lack of females but I treated the offerings with at most respect.
That is more common in South East Asia than in newly developed countries like Taiwan.
It is common everywhere in asia. Also challenging me into combat... And thinking I´m more hung... The latter comes from japanese women... It is sexist since it is not okay to discuss how deep and tight your pussy is in public.
The non-white women offer drinks and talk dirty if I have made clear that I like non-white women.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
When I travelled into asia, the people charged me more... The empire fell 70years ago and I´m not a brit. A swedish woman told me that I was paying over price so I turned the ship around. 
They screwed me and I was running out of money... 
And then in africa. The locals offered their best females to us. They thought that I was a commander of the troops. I was really horny due to the lack of females but I treated the offerings with at most respect.
That is more common in South East Asia than in newly developed countries like Taiwan.
It is common everywhere in asia. Also challenging me into combat... And thinking I´m more hung... The latter comes from japanese women... It is sexist since it is not okay to discuss how deep and tight your pussy is in public.
The non-white women offer drinks and talk dirty if I have made clear that I like non-white women.
No, it is not common nor legal in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, South Korea or Japan.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
That is more common in South East Asia than in newly developed countries like Taiwan.
It is common everywhere in asia. Also challenging me into combat... And thinking I´m more hung... The latter comes from japanese women... It is sexist since it is not okay to discuss how deep and tight your pussy is in public.
The non-white women offer drinks and talk dirty if I have made clear that I like non-white women.
No, it is not common nor legal in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, South Korea or Japan.
Laws are just words written in a book. How could you know what it is like being a white man.
Expected to pay for everything and save everybody. When you are big, blue eyed man then you are using steroids and automatically racist as fuck... 
I´m tired of these insecure brown fools! Cocksucking fools will finally feel superior when dating these assholes.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
It is common everywhere in asia. Also challenging me into combat... And thinking I´m more hung... The latter comes from japanese women... It is sexist since it is not okay to discuss how deep and tight your pussy is in public.
The non-white women offer drinks and talk dirty if I have made clear that I like non-white women.
No, it is not common nor legal in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, South Korea or Japan.
Laws are just words written in a book. How could you know what it is like being a white man.
Expected to pay for everything and save everybody. When you are big, blue eyed man then you are using steroids and automatically racist as fuck... 
I´m tired of these insecure brown fools! Cocksucking fools will finally feel superior when dating these assholes.
My husband has been to Taiwan with me..
I am Taiwanese, I think I know that nation.