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Title: The fall of Chile is a warning to the US
Post by: Anonymous on March 24, 2021, 08:02:20 AM
Chile was the dynamo of Latin America. The loss of economic freedom is destroying the goose that lays the golden eggs.



By Stephen Moore



Back in the 1970s, the nation of Chile embarked on one of the boldest sets of free market economic reforms in history. The government called in the Chicago Boys, as they were called, led by Milton Friedman and other University of Chicago free market economists.



They were given a free hand to redesign the Chilean economic system with property rights, a low flat tax, privatization of the Social Security system and industry deregulation. In 1991, Friedman wrote that Chile now "has all three things: political freedom, human freedom, and economic freedom. Chile will continue to be an interesting experiment to watch to see whether it can keep all three."



For four decades, the experiment worked better than anyone could have imagined. According to a study by economist Axel Kaiser for the Cato Institute: "Between 1975 and 2015 per capita income in Chile quadrupled to $23,000, the highest rate in Latin America. As a result, from the early 1980s to 2014 poverty fell from 45 percent to 8 percent." Chile became one of the wealthiest nations in South America. And it happened in three decades, an eye blink of history.



The Marxists and intellectual class of Latin America always hated the free market reforms. They disparaged the Chicago Boys as "fascists." They spent decades attacking the policies (with the stooges in the American media echoing their protests), even as Chile became the jewel of South America.



The Marxists invented a narrative of "inequality": "The rich were getting richer, and the poor were getting poorer, and capitalism is evil."



They infiltrated all of Chile's cultural institutions: the media, the schools, the universities, the Catholic Church, the arts, the unions, and even the corporate boardrooms. They spread their poisonous creed of collectivism to the populace.



Is any of this sounding familiar to our situation today?



Eventually, the leftists pulled off a political coup. In 2013, the left won the Chilean presidency. The free market reforms were systematically replaced with "spread the wealth" platitudes. In October 2020, voters approved a rewrite of the constitution, and now property rights and the rule of law are in danger.



Chile is now in economic free fall. The poor are getting crushed. The rich are pulling their money out of the country. They have arrived at "equality": Nearly everyone is suffering.



Meanwhile, back in America, we have an economic transformation of our own going on. The Biden administration promises to help the middle class by handing out trillions of dollars of free money to citizens and paying people more money for not working than working. We will borrow trillions of dollars and pray that the Chinese continue to buy up our bonds and that our currency holds up.



Many of our constitutional protections and congressional rules of behavior, such as the filibuster, which protects the rights of the minority, may be headed to the shredder. The election laws are getting rewritten to benefit, significantly, the party now in power—the Democrats. The House has passed a bill requiring millions of working-class people to join unions and pay dues. The left is saying, don't worry, this compulsion is going to help the working class. Sure.



A sock-it-to-the-rich tax increase is coming that will make the productive class and the job creators pay their "fair share" with tax rates of 50 percent, 60 percent and 70 percent.



Will this story have a happy ending?



The answer to that question might be contained in the frightening example of what happened in Chile. It is what our children and college students should be learning in the classrooms—fat chance. The left runs our schools now, too.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-fall-of-chile-is-a-warning-to-america_3744646.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&email=vanj_2005@hotmail.com&utm_campaign=mb-2021-03-24
Title: Re: The fall of Chile is a warning to the US
Post by: Anonymous on March 24, 2021, 08:18:40 AM
Augusto Pinochet was like authritarian leaders in East Asia who delivered high growth rates and made tens of millions of people part of the middle class.
Title: Re: The fall of Chile is a warning to the US
Post by: cc on March 24, 2021, 11:42:07 AM
I do believe this last election was fatal for the US and that it will never again be a productive country .. nor will it ever get out of the clutches of the party now in power because they are rigging future elections now as we speak



Flip it onto the plate, it's done
Title: Re: The fall of Chile is a warning to the US
Post by: Anonymous on March 24, 2021, 02:17:54 PM
Quote from: cc post_id=406122 time=1616600527 user_id=88
I do believe this last election was fatal for the US and that it will never again be a productive country .. nor will it ever get out of the clutches of the party now in power because they are rigging future elections now as we speak



Flip it onto the plate, it's done


Canada is done too.
Title: Re: The fall of Chile is a warning to the US
Post by: cc on March 24, 2021, 02:19:06 PM
Agreed, in fact Canada has been done for some time.



 US went from prosperity and hope did a 180 to  tits up in January in a heartbeat
Title: Re: The fall of Chile is a warning to the US
Post by: Anonymous on March 24, 2021, 03:41:57 PM
Canada had the most prosperous middle class in the world in 2014.
Title: Re: The fall of Chile is a warning to the US
Post by: cc on March 24, 2021, 04:09:04 PM
Yes ... It doesn't take a misguided / mis-prioritized leader & party long to 1st undo good and 2. create lots of bad  .. and set a country back a long way
Title: Re: The fall of Chile is a warning to the US
Post by: Anonymous on March 24, 2021, 07:20:08 PM
It takes decades to produce prosperity, but only a few years to tear it down.
Title: Re: The fall of Chile is a warning to the US
Post by: Anonymous on March 25, 2021, 10:20:30 AM
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=406144 time=1616628008 user_id=3254
It takes decades to produce prosperity, but only a few years to tear it down.


Frickin right.
Title: Re: The fall of Chile is a warning to the US
Post by: Renee on March 25, 2021, 11:21:43 AM
Quote from: cc post_id=406132 time=1616609946 user_id=88
Agreed, in fact Canada has been done for some time.



 US went from prosperity and hope did a 180 to  tits up in January in a heartbeat


Yeah, but you can't blame our prosperity about face solely on leftist politicians....A significant number of our citizens are dumb enough, brainwashed enough, short sighted enough, naive enough to advocate for and crave the concept of a big brother that provides for them...In a democratic society where the political leaders are elected by the citizenry, it is the voter, the citizens themselves that are the root of the problem. Socialist, progressive concepts that are proven to be detrimental to economic growth look good to these morons because it promises them all the free stuff that they would normally have to work for in an economically prosperous, capitalist, environment.
Title: Re: The fall of Chile is a warning to the US
Post by: cc on March 25, 2021, 01:07:51 PM
True.  it takes a majority of people to rule,



so at least 1 of every 2 has to swallow the Kool-Aid & vote for varying combinations of PC gone mad & free stuff
Title: Re: The fall of Chile is a warning to the US
Post by: Anonymous on March 25, 2021, 01:32:15 PM
False.
Title: Re: The fall of Chile is a warning to the US
Post by: Anonymous on March 25, 2021, 03:41:55 PM
Quote from: Renee post_id=406200 time=1616685703 user_id=156
Quote from: cc post_id=406132 time=1616609946 user_id=88
Agreed, in fact Canada has been done for some time.



 US went from prosperity and hope did a 180 to  tits up in January in a heartbeat


Yeah, but you can't blame our prosperity about face solely on leftist politicians....A significant number of our citizens are dumb enough, brainwashed enough, short sighted enough, naive enough to advocate for and crave the concept of a big brother that provides for them...In a democratic society where the political leaders are elected by the citizenry, it is the voter, the citizens themselves that are the root of the problem. Socialist, progressive concepts that are proven to be detrimental to economic growth look good to these morons because it promises them all the free stuff that they would normally have to work for in an economically prosperous, capitalist, environment.

Some politicians have convinced naive voters that new taxes and higher existing taxes are good for them.
Title: Re: The fall of Chile is a warning to the US
Post by: Anonymous on March 25, 2021, 05:02:45 PM
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=406216 time=1616701315 user_id=3254
Quote from: Renee post_id=406200 time=1616685703 user_id=156
Quote from: cc post_id=406132 time=1616609946 user_id=88
Agreed, in fact Canada has been done for some time.



 US went from prosperity and hope did a 180 to  tits up in January in a heartbeat


Yeah, but you can't blame our prosperity about face solely on leftist politicians....A significant number of our citizens are dumb enough, brainwashed enough, short sighted enough, naive enough to advocate for and crave the concept of a big brother that provides for them...In a democratic society where the political leaders are elected by the citizenry, it is the voter, the citizens themselves that are the root of the problem. Socialist, progressive concepts that are proven to be detrimental to economic growth look good to these morons because it promises them all the free stuff that they would normally have to work for in an economically prosperous, capitalist, environment.

Some politicians have convinced naive voters that new taxes and higher existing taxes are good for them.

Mass immigration too.
Title: Re: The fall of Chile is a warning to the US
Post by: Renee on March 27, 2021, 04:49:59 PM
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=406216 time=1616701315 user_id=3254
Quote from: Renee post_id=406200 time=1616685703 user_id=156
Quote from: cc post_id=406132 time=1616609946 user_id=88
Agreed, in fact Canada has been done for some time.



 US went from prosperity and hope did a 180 to  tits up in January in a heartbeat


Yeah, but you can't blame our prosperity about face solely on leftist politicians....A significant number of our citizens are dumb enough, brainwashed enough, short sighted enough, naive enough to advocate for and crave the concept of a big brother that provides for them...In a democratic society where the political leaders are elected by the citizenry, it is the voter, the citizens themselves that are the root of the problem. Socialist, progressive concepts that are proven to be detrimental to economic growth look good to these morons because it promises them all the free stuff that they would normally have to work for in an economically prosperous, capitalist, environment.

Some politicians have convinced naive voters that new taxes and higher existing taxes are good for them.


I honestly feel bad for people who think the government holds all the answers and can fix things by throwing more and more money at a problem or issue. These are the kind of people who would walk off the edge if a cliff if some so called "law maker" told then it was good for them....In today's day and age, that amounts to plain old stupidity and you and almost everyone else here knows very well what I think of stupid people.
Title: Re: The fall of Chile is a warning to the US
Post by: Anonymous on March 28, 2021, 06:58:12 AM
Quote from: Renee post_id=406379 time=1616878199 user_id=156
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=406216 time=1616701315 user_id=3254
Quote from: Renee post_id=406200 time=1616685703 user_id=156
Quote from: cc post_id=406132 time=1616609946 user_id=88
Agreed, in fact Canada has been done for some time.



 US went from prosperity and hope did a 180 to  tits up in January in a heartbeat


Yeah, but you can't blame our prosperity about face solely on leftist politicians....A significant number of our citizens are dumb enough, brainwashed enough, short sighted enough, naive enough to advocate for and crave the concept of a big brother that provides for them...In a democratic society where the political leaders are elected by the citizenry, it is the voter, the citizens themselves that are the root of the problem. Socialist, progressive concepts that are proven to be detrimental to economic growth look good to these morons because it promises them all the free stuff that they would normally have to work for in an economically prosperous, capitalist, environment.

Some politicians have convinced naive voters that new taxes and higher existing taxes are good for them.


I honestly feel bad for people who think the government holds all the answers and can fix things by throwing more and more money at a problem or issue. These are the kind of people who would walk off the edge if a cliff is some so called "law maker" told then it was good for them....In today's day and age, that amounts to plain old stupidity and you and almost everyone else here knows very well what I think of stupid people.

Government confiscation of our earnings and our decisons does not raise living standards and make people freer. It has the opposite affect. It amazes me how some people have been brainwashed to believe down is up.
Title: Re: The fall of Chile is a warning to the US
Post by: Frood on March 30, 2021, 02:46:52 AM
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=406438 time=1616929092 user_id=114
Quote from: Renee post_id=406379 time=1616878199 user_id=156
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=406216 time=1616701315 user_id=3254
Quote from: Renee post_id=406200 time=1616685703 user_id=156
Quote from: cc post_id=406132 time=1616609946 user_id=88
Agreed, in fact Canada has been done for some time.



 US went from prosperity and hope did a 180 to  tits up in January in a heartbeat


Yeah, but you can't blame our prosperity about face solely on leftist politicians....A significant number of our citizens are dumb enough, brainwashed enough, short sighted enough, naive enough to advocate for and crave the concept of a big brother that provides for them...In a democratic society where the political leaders are elected by the citizenry, it is the voter, the citizens themselves that are the root of the problem. Socialist, progressive concepts that are proven to be detrimental to economic growth look good to these morons because it promises them all the free stuff that they would normally have to work for in an economically prosperous, capitalist, environment.

Some politicians have convinced naive voters that new taxes and higher existing taxes are good for them.


I honestly feel bad for people who think the government holds all the answers and can fix things by throwing more and more money at a problem or issue. These are the kind of people who would walk off the edge if a cliff is some so called "law maker" told then it was good for them....In today's day and age, that amounts to plain old stupidity and you and almost everyone else here knows very well what I think of stupid people.

Government confiscation of our earnings and our decisons does not raise living standards and make people freer. It has the opposite affect. It amazes me how some people have been brainwashed to believe down is up.


And they think it's their moral right to drag those around them down...
Title: Re: The fall of Chile is a warning to the US
Post by: Anonymous on April 01, 2021, 11:58:05 PM
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