Title: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: cc on June 16, 2021, 10:33:36 PM
Post by: cc on June 16, 2021, 10:33:36 PM
Ebrahim Raisi (right) greets his ally Ayatollah Khamenei, via BBC .... hmmmmm
BY TYLER DURDEN for Zero Hedge
Iran's presidential election which will see a new leader in office as Hassan Rouhani steps down due to term limits is once again pitting Islamic hardliners against centrists or "moderates". Rouhani himself has long represented the moderate faction, striking the 2015 nuclear deal with the West and currently seeking its restoration through the Vienna negotiations. But this chapter looks to imminently come to an end.
Iranians head to the polls on Friday, June 18, in a race that's boiling down between ultraconservative Ebrahim Raisi - currently the head of the judiciary - against his main rival Abdolnaser Hemmati, a centrist former head of of the Central Bank of Iran. A close ally of Ayatollah Khamenei, Raisi is the clear favorite to win, also amid widespread Western allegations that the outcome has already been engineered by the Islamic Republic's powerful conservative clerics. CNN for example writes, "Iran's political elite has decided that the next face of the Islamic Republic should be a figure steeped in its conservative roots and directly linked to some of the darkest chapters of its history," including overseeing periodic crackdowns on dissidents.
Despite the seven candidates in the race, with live televised debates and large political rallies over this past month, CNN comments further that
The US mainstream is broadly predicting
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2021, 01:11:49 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2021, 01:11:49 AM
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2021, 06:45:36 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2021, 06:45:36 AM
As Iranians Head To Polls Friday, Meet The Hardliner Likely To Succeed Rouhani(//https)
Ebrahim Raisi (right) greets his ally Ayatollah Khamenei, via BBC .... hmmmmm(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/iranelection.jpg?itok=DWMujWvu%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-publi%20...%20k=DWMujWvu%22%3Ehttps://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/iranelection.jpg?itok=DWMujWvu%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
BY TYLER DURDEN for Zero Hedge
Iran's presidential election which will see a new leader in office as Hassan Rouhani steps down due to term limits is once again pitting Islamic hardliners against centrists or "moderates". Rouhani himself has long represented the moderate faction, striking the 2015 nuclear deal with the West and currently seeking its restoration through the Vienna negotiations. But this chapter looks to imminently come to an end.
Iranians head to the polls on Friday, June 18, in a race that's boiling down between ultraconservative Ebrahim Raisi - currently the head of the judiciary - against his main rival Abdolnaser Hemmati, a centrist former head of of the Central Bank of Iran. A close ally of Ayatollah Khamenei, Raisi is the clear favorite to win, also amid widespread Western allegations that the outcome has already been engineered by the Islamic Republic's powerful conservative clerics. CNNadvice.a mple writes, "Iran's political elite has decided that the next face of the Islamic Republic should be a figure steeped in its conservative roots and directly linked to some of the darkest chapters of its history," including overseeing periodic crackdowns on dissidents.
Despite the seven candidates in the race, with live televised debates and large political rallies over this past month, CNN comments further that"Ebrahim Raisi, a hardline judiciary chief with a brutal record on human rights, is running virtually uncontested in this week's presidential election, after Iran's clerical rulers barred most of his rivals from the race to replace outgoing Hassan Rouhani."
The US mainstream is broadly predictingincreasing isolation for Tehran based on a Raisi victory, as well as more severe crackdowns on any domestic dissent. [cc - "No Shiite"]
A free and fair election.
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: cc on June 17, 2021, 12:23:23 PM
Post by: cc on June 17, 2021, 12:23:23 PM
but I think y'all know anyhow that it would be the killer blow for any chance of a peaceful world
Compounding it, already Hiden is sniffing the hair of the head guy .. and has a hand up under his dress to pleasure him
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2021, 04:56:55 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2021, 04:56:55 PM
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: cc on June 17, 2021, 05:13:53 PM
Post by: cc on June 17, 2021, 05:13:53 PM
I am no Iran expert, but what can an Iranian president really do. They are not the real power in that country.
They are not, but they have at least "by appearance" have somewhat tempered the fanatical guys in the funny dresses
"Their" guy as President allows the fanatical leaders to take the gloves off completely - and anyone less fanatic will never get elected again
In my view it will mean war that will spread into many places
I have always seen it as a war not on Israel, rather a simple part of the 900 yr Shia / Sunni war for control of all of islam .. i.e. they are creating tools for a war aimed at Sunni countries
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: Anonymous on June 18, 2021, 01:27:35 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 18, 2021, 01:27:35 AM
I have always seen it as a war not on Israel, rather a simple part of the 900 yr Shia / Sunni war for control of all of islam .. i.e. they are creating tools for a war aimed at Sunni countries
That's it.
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: cc on June 18, 2021, 10:38:52 PM
Post by: cc on June 18, 2021, 10:38:52 PM
KEY POINTS
Iran has only one important voter in Friday's election — Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, said Behnam Ben Taleblu of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.
"So you could say whoever wins, of the candidates that you mentioned ... the Iranian people will certainly lose," he told CNBC's "Capital Connection" on Friday.
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: cc on June 18, 2021, 10:42:57 PM
Post by: cc on June 18, 2021, 10:42:57 PM
Results are expected around noon (0730 GMT) Saturday. If no clear winner emerges, a runoff will be held on June 25, defying predictions.
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: Anonymous on June 19, 2021, 01:22:17 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 19, 2021, 01:22:17 AM
No matter who wins Iran's election, 'the Iranian people will certainly lose(//https)
KEY POINTS
Iran has only one important voter in Friday's election — Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, said Behnam Ben Taleblu of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.
"So you could say whoever wins, of the candidates that you mentioned ... the Iranian people will certainly lose," he told CNBC's "Capital Connection" on Friday.
The presidential election is a big whatever. Khameni has the real power.
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: cc on June 19, 2021, 02:15:57 AM
Post by: cc on June 19, 2021, 02:15:57 AM
That said, as one mentioned above, who he gets to win is an indicator of Iran's direction, at home and abroad.
That is the only significance of the election
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: cc on June 19, 2021, 12:26:42 PM
Post by: cc on June 19, 2021, 12:26:42 PM
Published1 hour ago
Hardliner Ebrahim Raisi has won Iran's presidential election in a race that was widely seen as being designed to favour him.
He thanked Iranians for their support, after securing 62% of the votes.
Mr Raisi is Iran's top judge and holds ultra-conservative views. He is under US sanctions and has been linked to past executions of political prisoners.
Iran's president is the second-highest ranking official in the country, after the supreme leader.
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but more widely a rough ride for the world
I will predict war high tensions throughout the Middle East & ultimately a very hot war
While regular Shiaism evolved to conquer Sunni-ism and rule all of islam, this sect that controls Iran adds a "different touch" to that
Hardliners in Iran are Shia
.. a war they have been building up to start ... but this signals that they will now proceed full bore toward making happen.
That is what this is all about - along with taking over islam temporarily as a start of the process
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: cc on June 19, 2021, 12:54:25 PM
Post by: cc on June 19, 2021, 12:54:25 PM
I predict they will detonate a nuclear weapon or weapons upon another state or states which will trigger an enormous reply that will achieve their objective to be killed in a huge war so that they can go to their "special Shia 12ver heaven"
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: Gaon on June 19, 2021, 01:13:57 PM
Post by: Gaon on June 19, 2021, 01:13:57 PM
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: cc on June 19, 2021, 01:18:25 PM
Post by: cc on June 19, 2021, 01:18:25 PM
Joe Biden's weak leadership emboldens the Iranian regime.
Yes it does, bigtime. Between that (and no doubt as a result of that) the Shia 12ver wet dream is now on full bore
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: Gaon on June 19, 2021, 01:39:50 PM
Post by: Gaon on June 19, 2021, 01:39:50 PM
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: cc on June 19, 2021, 02:21:42 PM
Post by: cc on June 19, 2021, 02:21:42 PM
They may want to test Naftali Bennett.
Yes, and he's a hardliner, right?
As for my feelings on this, I feel strongly that Israel is a distraction as these 12vers really want to hit their actual enemy, Sunniville .. which does not mean they will not war with Israel as a ploy if you will toward the real objective of hitting Sunni countries toward ruling all of Islam
Iran making a thing of Israel never washed to me .. seems a ruse because they are a long way from Israel unlike Sunnis .. and according to 12ver lore it's Sunnis they really want war with
We'll see how it all shakes out in the end, but it's won't be pretty for many counties before it's over.
It's quite possible they are substituting Israel to achieve their end goal of being destructed .. as Sunni countries don't have nukes nor are they any good as fighters
We may soon know what Iran's true objectives are
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: cc on June 19, 2021, 04:16:34 PM
Post by: cc on June 19, 2021, 04:16:34 PM
Biden Orders Major Reversal Of Trump's Missile Battery Build-Up In Gulf
A major "realignment" of US defense priorities is resulting in a new extended drawdown of troops, aircraft, and anti-aircraft missiles from the Middle East, The Wall Street journal says in a new report, especially a prior missile battery build-up under Trump in Saudi Arabia.
"The Pentagon is pulling approximately eight Patriot antimissile batteries from countries including Iraq, Kuwait, Jordan and Saudi Arabia, according to officials," the report details. "Another antimissile system known as a Terminal High Altitude Area Defense, or Thaad system, is being withdrawn from Saudi Arabia, and jet fighter squadrons assigned to the region are being reduced, those officials said."
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: Anonymous on June 19, 2021, 04:26:19 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 19, 2021, 04:26:19 PM
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: cc on June 19, 2021, 04:55:01 PM
Post by: cc on June 19, 2021, 04:55:01 PM
I wish I had studied geopolitical issues more. I know any changes within Iran and policies directed at that country have an enormous impact on the world.
The reason is that the leader group (those in the funny dresses) are fundy religious nutcakes with a belief that war is necessary for them to achieve their own special heaven following an Armageddon that they can speed up
It's not like (in fact the very opposite of) the Cold War where both sides absolutely did not want a war to destroy them. I believe we are in for very dangerous times .. and now sooner, not later
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: Anonymous on June 19, 2021, 05:14:05 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 19, 2021, 05:14:05 PM
I wish I had studied geopolitical issues more. I know any changes within Iran and policies directed at that country have an enormous impact on the world.
The reason is that the leader group (those in the funny dresses) are fundy religious nutcakes with a belief that war is necessary for them to achieve their own special heaven following an Armageddon that they can speed up
It's not like (in fact the very opposite of) the Cold War where both sides absolutely did not want a war to destroy them. I believe we are in for very dangerous times .. and now sooner, not later
Aren't they generous with other people's blood.
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: cc on June 19, 2021, 05:31:33 PM
Post by: cc on June 19, 2021, 05:31:33 PM
I wish I had studied geopolitical issues more. I know any changes within Iran and policies directed at that country have an enormous impact on the world.
The reason is that the leader group (those in the funny dresses) are fundy religious nutcakes with a belief that war is necessary for them to achieve their own special heaven following an Armageddon that they can speed up
It's not like (in fact the very opposite of) the Cold War where both sides absolutely did not want a war to destroy them. I believe we are in for very dangerous times .. and now sooner, not later
Aren't they generous with other people's blood.
Or rather ashes and radioactive blood with what they have in mind
The proof o the pudding for me is that Iran is far away from Israel, yet we don't see nearer Sunni counties doing or saying anything bad about Israel .. in fact, with T in power these closer counties were rapidly making treaties with Israel
Far away Iran is on the surface acting irrationally as they have no legit quarrel .. but to these wonky 12vers in funny dresses, it's a means a very rational end as per their self-destructive belief system .. as Israel would flatten Iran within in hours if 1 Iranian rocket hit them
OR, they are playing the "Oh, look over there Sunnis!!!" ..... and whamo they hit Sunni countries as a very major act in their 900 year desire to rule all of islam
I'm not sure which of the 2 it is, but it IS one of those 2
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2021, 01:43:14 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2021, 01:43:14 AM
Old Gaon, has a point about the new Israeli pm. My understanding is the new coalition does not have the same stomach for the hard line on Iran as the one Netanyahu lead.
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: cc on June 20, 2021, 09:03:36 PM
Post by: cc on June 20, 2021, 09:03:36 PM
JERUSALEM—Israel condemned on Sunday the election of hardline judge Ebrahim Raisi as Iranian president, saying his would be a "regime of brutal hangmen" with which world powers
Raisi, who is under U.S. sanctions for human rights abuses, secured victory as expected on Saturday in Iran's presidential election after a contest marked by voter apathy over economic hardships and political restrictions.
"Raisi's election is, I would say, the last chance for world powers to wake up before returning to the nuclear agreement, and understand who they are doing business with," said Bennett in a statement he read out first in Hebrew and then in English.
"A regime of brutal hangmen must never be allowed to have weapons of mass-destruction," he said. "Israel's position will not change on this."
Raisi has never publicly addressed allegations around his role in what Washington and rights groups have called
The former U.S. administration of Donald Trump agreed with Israel and quit the 2015 Iranian nuclear deal.
Current President Joe Biden wants a U.S. return to the deal.
Iran denies seeking nuclear weaponry.
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: Anonymous on June 21, 2021, 01:34:27 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 21, 2021, 01:34:27 AM
Israeli PM Warns Against Nuclear Talks With Iran's 'Hangmen Regime'(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://img.theepochtimes.com/assets/uploads/2021/06/20/Israeli-Prime-Minister-Naftali-Bennett-e1624215383933-700x420.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://img.theepochtimes.com/assets/up%20...%2000x420.jpg%22%3Ehttps://img.theepochtimes.com/assets/uploads/2021/06/20/Israeli-Prime-Minister-Naftali-Bennett-e1624215383933-700x420.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
JERUSALEM—Israel condemned on Sunday the election of hardline judge Ebrahim Raisi as Iranian president, saying his would be a "regime of brutal hangmen" with which world powersshould not negotiate a new nuclear deal.
Raisi, who is under U.S. sanctions for human rights abuses, secured victory as expected on Saturday in Iran's presidential election after a contest marked by voter apathy over economic hardships and political restrictions.
"Raisi's election is, I would say, the last chance for world powers to wake up before returning to the nuclear agreement, and understand who they are doing business with," said Bennett in a statement he read out first in Hebrew and then in English.
"A regime of brutal hangmen must never be allowed to have weapons of mass-destruction," he said. "Israel's position will not change on this."
Raisi has never publicly addressed allegations around his role in what Washington and rights groups have calledthe extrajudicial executions of thousands of political prisoners in 1988.
The former U.S. administration of Donald Trump agreed with Israel and quit the 2015 Iranian nuclear deal.
Current President Joe Biden wants a U.S. return to the deal.
Iran denies seeking nuclear weaponry.
:001_rolleyes: :001_rolleyes: :001_rolleyes:
The Iran Nukes Deal was so frickin stupid. So, ya, Biden will double down on what was a disaster.
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: Frood on June 21, 2021, 02:20:33 AM
Post by: Frood on June 21, 2021, 02:20:33 AM
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: cc on June 21, 2021, 11:56:17 AM
Post by: cc on June 21, 2021, 11:56:17 AM
I can I see your political science degrees, guys?
I'm assuming you actually meant to say "can I see your political science degrees, guys?"
Aw, so spamming covid threads (or rather posting against every post in them with insults) isn't enough to satisfy your obsession
Now you bring it into other threads
By the way
Like promoting a mining engineer babbling on about covid as if he was a covid expert (for1 example of many, that in itself is a total credibility breaker)
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: Frood on June 21, 2021, 12:52:52 PM
Post by: Frood on June 21, 2021, 12:52:52 PM
I can I see your political science degrees, guys?
I'm assuming you actually meant to say "can I see your political science degrees, guys?"
Aw, so spamming covid threads (or rather posting against every post in them with insults) isn't enough to satisfy your obsession
Now you bring it into other threads
By the way- No one has ever asked for your credentials. They have only asked about credentials of those "supposed experts" whose diatribes you post
Like promoting a mining engineer babbling on about covid as if he was a covid expert (for1 example of many, that in itself is a total credibility breaker)Try hard to actually respond to the point itself ... and not deflect, ad hom or insult as has become your constant MO, eh?
Ok....you could have just said "no degrees"...
Doesn't mean anything to me, but it seems to mean much for you and Hermy.
You little fuckwits pick and choose who you believe, despite all over evidence.
You'll be the first to go...
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: cc on June 21, 2021, 12:56:41 PM
Post by: cc on June 21, 2021, 12:56:41 PM
.....
You'll be the first to go...
"Go" to Tehran? This thread is clearly about Iran .. yet you spam it also
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: Frood on June 21, 2021, 12:57:47 PM
Post by: Frood on June 21, 2021, 12:57:47 PM
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: Anonymous on June 21, 2021, 01:24:08 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 21, 2021, 01:24:08 PM
I can I see your political science degrees, guys?
ac_hithere
I never went to university.
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: Frood on June 21, 2021, 01:32:53 PM
Post by: Frood on June 21, 2021, 01:32:53 PM
I can I see your political science degrees, guys?
ac_hithere
I never went to university.
Me either, but I have a good sense of BS...
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: cc on June 21, 2021, 01:35:23 PM
Post by: cc on June 21, 2021, 01:35:23 PM
It always was the credibility of those putting forward claims ... like for example the mining engineer speaking like he was a proven creditable doc when he is not even close .. or politicians with zero credentials and zero medical status mouthing off in Parliament, pretending to "expert"
Even a doctor parliamentarian with little direct Covid experience may mouth off has zero credibility or extensive knowledge with regard to what he is saying
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: Frood on June 21, 2021, 01:43:54 PM
Post by: Frood on June 21, 2021, 01:43:54 PM
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: Anonymous on June 21, 2021, 05:09:26 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 21, 2021, 05:09:26 PM
Fuck off...your mental illness is rearing...
Brainwashed zombie.
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: Frood on June 22, 2021, 12:19:42 AM
Post by: Frood on June 22, 2021, 12:19:42 AM
Fuck off...your mental illness is rearing...
Brainwashed zombie.
You are....
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: cc on June 22, 2021, 12:32:11 AM
Post by: cc on June 22, 2021, 12:32:11 AM
Best we not indulge the spammer / hijacker
It made it's own thread on conspiracies.
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: Frood on June 22, 2021, 12:35:11 AM
Post by: Frood on June 22, 2021, 12:35:11 AM
Don't let him or her hijack yet another thread
Best we not indulge the spammer / hijacker
You are the spammer, idiot.
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: cc on June 22, 2021, 12:36:07 AM
Post by: cc on June 22, 2021, 12:36:07 AM
cc out ... It's on its own
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: Frood on June 22, 2021, 12:52:28 AM
Post by: Frood on June 22, 2021, 12:52:28 AM
Title: Re: Well, ... Let's See How This One Works Out (Iran President Election Friday)
Post by: cc on June 22, 2021, 01:51:36 PM
Post by: cc on June 22, 2021, 01:51:36 PM
Raisi himself faces U.S. sanctions due to his role in the 1988 mass executions of political prisoners, and when asked about this Monday he made clear that he has no regrets about his past actions.
"Of all the people that Khamenei could have chosen, he chose the 'Hangman of Tehran,' the man infamous among Iranians and across the world for leading the Death Committees, which executed thousands of innocent Iranian citizens throughout the years," newly-elected Prime Minister Naftali Bennett said at a weekly cabinet meeting on Sunday. "Raisi's election is, I would say, the last chance for the world powers to wake up before returning to the nuclear agreement, and to understand who they are doing business with. These guys are murderers, mass murderers."
Alex Vatanka, director of the Iran program at the Middle East Institute, called Raisi's election "a foregone conclusion."
"Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei took every step possible to make sure of it," Vatanka wrote in a blog post.