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Quote from: "Romero"I know the total deficit is going up. I said so. It goes up under every president every year.



It's also true that the yearly deficit has been reduced to $516 billion. It was $1 trillion when Obama first took office.

Quote from: "Shen Li"

Quote from: "Romero"I know the total deficit is going up. I said so. It goes up under every president every year.



It's also true that the yearly deficit has been reduced to $516 billion. It was $1 trillion when Obama first took office.

Let me get this straight, Obongo record level recessionary deficits go down and he has cut the deficit in half? The Tories recessionary deficits have been less than halved and unlike Obama will be in surplus next year, but you don`t say they have reduced the deficit by more than half???



We will be in the black next year unlike the ineptly lead country to the South.

Quote from: "Romero"The Tories have produced lower yearly deficits as well, but I won't believe there will be a balance budget until I see it. Harper claimed the budget was going to be balanced years ago.

QuoteThe overall deficit is still growing under Odumbo at an alarming rate. As CC stated....Smoke and mirrors.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/kevinglass ... s-n1601907

Quote from: "cc li tarte"You will love this Shen & Renee - Sounds not relevant initially, but it is because it's typical of the Dems upsidedown thinking that is causing the massive ACTUAL unemployment / part time employment (same # of people working as in 74 ... and many are now part time ... fuck!!!) & the  rapidly rising total debt



Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said the Congressional Budget Office report that shows Obamacare will make the labor force lose 2.3 million full-time workers by 2021 is positive because it lets Americans be "free agents."



"So my caucus is right on track to understand this. The CBO report is far better for us than it's not. Republicans should get away from repeal and start talking about some constructive ways to handle the issues that they're concerned about," he added.

Quote from: "cc li tarte"Let's see them spin this one into "It's all good - things are getting better"



Radio Shack to close about 500 stores within months according to the Wall Street Journal.



Maybe "This is great. Lights out, less people driving to work =  Less fuels will be used = earth will be cleaner"??

QuoteConservative Media Misreads New Report In Rush To Attack Obamacare



Right-wing media figures rushed to claim the Affordable Care Act will destroy 2 million jobs, citing a new Congressional Budget Office report, but that's not what the report found -- the CBO report projected that the law will give workers the freedom to voluntarily reduce their employment after gaining health insurance.



The CBO makes it clear that the decrease in workers is not due to jobs being lost -- rather, the ACA will allow workers to choose to work less. The projected change is in the supply of labor, not the demand for labor, and thus the CBO noted that the decrease would not lead to a corresponding increase in unemployment or underemployment:



The estimated reduction stems almost entirely from a net decline in the amount of labor that workers choose to supply, rather than from a net drop in businesses' demand for labor, so it will appear almost entirely as a reduction in labor force participation and in hours worked relative to what would have occurred otherwise rather than as an increase in unemployment (that is, more workers seeking but not finding jobs) or underemployment (such as part-time workers who would prefer to work more hours per week).



In a Los Angeles Times post, Michael Hiltzik explained that the difference between a decrease in the supply of labor and demand for labor is significant, quoting economist Dean Baker who noted that the change "is, in fact, a beneficial effect of the law".



The right-wing media's failure to correctly interpret the CBO's findings is not surprising, considering a similar report released in 2011 was seized on by conservatives who falsely claimed the law would eliminate 800,000 jobs.



//http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/02/04/conservatives-misread-new-report-in-rush-to-att/197916

Quote from: "cc li tarte"Media Matters ... Good One!!  ;)



Did you read it? It's as ludicrous as what Read said (above)



Lefties making total fools of themselves while trying to make another O'turd smell like a rose

Quote from: "cc li tarte"Unfortunately they are not working for the people  ... only for agenda (ideas / beliefs they have that usually do not work in the real world)

QuoteIn its new budget outlook, CBO very clearly states that Obamacare amounts to an implicit tax on work and workers that will reduce employment by as much as 2.5 million jobs over the next ten years.



Here's how the CBO arrives at its new conclusion:



As workers transition from part time work (without benefits) to full time work (with health benefits) many workers will actually lose income in the form of the subsidies that they will have to forgo (and the additional fact that lower wage workers, who are in lower tax brackets, won't benefit as much from the implicit subsidy they will get from the special tax treatment of health benefits bought at work). CBO seems to focus mostly on people who are out of the labor force for a period of time and transitioning back to full time work, which suggest its estimates may be low.



CBO states, in reference to these impacts, that the "exchange subsidies effectively constitute a tax on labor supply for a broad range of workers." CBO focuses mostly on those transitioning to full time work (with benefits). But the same disincentives apply to workers on Obamacare who are already employed full time, and looking to grow their income.



The congressional actuaries go on to state that forgoing Obamacare subsidies and returning to full time work with health benefits (for lower wage and middle class workers) amounts to an average, implicit tax of about 15% paid by each worker. CBO does note that these considerations only affect a segment of the workforce – specifically the middle class and working class who earn annual incomes that put them below 400% of the Federal poverty level (about $95,000 for a family of four). But that represents a large portion of the labor market.



These disincentives can't be easily fixed — they are baked into the structure of the Obamacare subsidies. A refundable tax credit, similar to the one offered in some conservative plans, sidesteps many of these effects.



Equally significant are some points that CBO doesn't get into in its report.



Principal among them is the fact that Obamacare is going to make certain wages sticky as more workers try and stay under certain income ranges in order to maximize their subsidies.



http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottgottlieb/2014/02/04/cbo-explains-how-obamacare-will-tax-low-wage-workers/

Quote from: "cc li tarte"Watching O'Care is like watching a slow moving train wreck ... the ultimate classic example of how the govt can fuck up a single car funeral ... let alone something complex



It was sold via lies and each week now another lie is exposed ..... another car goes off the tracks ... The gross incompetence of everyone involved in it becomes more visible every week

Quote from: "cc li tarte"Hi Fash. That lady is Ayaan Hirsy Ali. She was a battered wife in Somalia ... escaped to Europe .... got educated ... became a Dutch parliamtarian .... was dropped because of a fib on her refuge papers ... was reinstated  ..... spoke out against islam as a fake LOUDLY ... was threatened ... wrote extremely good books "Infidel" is one I have read ... speaks about islam to large groups exposing the beast islam is ... has been interviewed and debated on TV many times ... lives under threat of death by islam ... is guarded 24/7



An articulate, humorous  and brave woman .... everything islam is against .. She is a beautiful Somali woman



Oh. And she is one of my favorite people on this earth



The picture is the cover pic of I believe her first book, "Infidel"

Quote from: "Fashionista"

Quote from: "cc li tarte"Hi Fash. That lady is Ayaan Hirsy Ali. She was a battered wife in Somalia ... escaped to Europe .... got educated ... became a Dutch parliamtarian .... was dropped because of a fib on her refuge papers ... was reinstated  ..... spoke out against islam as a fake LOUDLY ... was threatened ... wrote extremely good books "Infidel" is one I have read ... speaks about islam to large groups exposing the beast islam is ... has been interviewed and debated on TV many times ... lives under threat of death by islam ... is guarded 24/7



An articulate, humorous  and brave woman .... everything islam is against .. She is a beautiful Somali woman



Oh. And she is one of my favorite people on this earth



The picture is the cover pic of I believe her first book, "Infidel"

Thanks Ms. cc li tarte, what a remarkable life she lives..



What a shame she must live like a prisoner..



When I get home tonight I will Google her name..



Thanks again Ms. cc li tarte.

QuoteObamacare Finally Gives Workers The Freedom Conservatives Demanded



On Tuesday, the Congressional Budget Office projected that The Affordable Care Act will reduce the number of full-time workers by 2.3 million in 2021, leading critics to seize on the claim as evidence that the health care law is undermining job growth.



But that's not what the CBO actually said. In fact, CBO economists write that "[t]he estimated reduction [in labor] stems almost entirely from a net decline in the amount of labor that workers choose to supply, rather than from a net drop in businesses' demand for labor." Americans won't be losing their jobs, but people who are only working to maintain access to their employer sponsored health insurance plans will be able to leave the workforce or work fewer hours because they can obtain coverage elsewhere.



That's a goal that prominent Republicans, conservative think tanks and policy analysts have supported for years:



– "A lot of people change their jobs. So the tax benefit should change and go with them, and not be attached to their jobs. We want to address job lock. So, the key question that ought to be addressed in any health care reform legislation, is are we going to continue job lock, or are we going to allow individuals more choice, and portability to fit the 21st century workforce?" [Paul Ryan, 5/20/2009]



– "Today, leaving a job or changing jobs means leav­ing behind the health insurance provided at the place of work. Individuals who wish to take a better job, change careers, or leave the workforce to raise a family or to retire early take substantial risks. [...] Under the McCain plan, which links tax breaks directly to individuals instead of to their place of work, individuals would no longer feel obligated to stay with their employers simply because they need to keep their employer-based health insurance. [Heritage Foundation, 10/15/2008]



– "Of course there are a number of things that I like in health care reform that I'm going to put in place.... I also want individuals to be able to buy insurance, health insurance, on their own as opposed to only being able to get it on a tax advantage basis through their company." [Mitt Romney, 9/9/2012]



– "[T]he employer-based system leads to 'job lock,' whereby people are afraid to leave their jobs if they fall ill on the job, because switching plans could mean higher premiums or denial of coverage." [Avik Roy, former health care adviser to Mitt Romney, 2/7/2012]



As Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) explained in 2008, while rolling out the health care proposal that animated his presidential campaign, "'job lock' reduces opportunities for American workers because they often pass up new jobs for fear of losing their health care coverage." The health care law will start to change that predicament.



//http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/02/04/3249671/obamacare-job-lock/

QuoteConservative Seize On Report To Argue Obamacare Is A Job Killer — But The Author Says They're Wrong



On Wednesday, Congressional Budget Office (CBO) director Doug Elmendorf refuted the claim that the Affordable Care Act is a job killer — a misleading takeaway from his agency's new report that is being touted by Obamacare critics.



Testifying before the House Budget Committee on the CBO's newly released economic projections for the next decade, Elmendorf addressed the report's finding that the Affordable Care Act will reduce the labor participation rate and the total number of hours worked by an equivalent of 2 million jobs in 2017. According to Elmendorf, that statistic is being taken out of context to suggest that Obamacare will eliminate jobs.



Elmendorf also noted that the ACA is actually expected to boost the economy in the near-term by making health insurance and medical care affordable for the poorest Americans, giving them the freedom to spend money in other areas of the economy. "On balance, CBO estimates that the ACA will boost overall demand for goods and services over the next few years," states the report.



//http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/02/05/3252421/elmendorf-debunk-obamacare-job-killer/

QuoteThinkProgress is a liberal American political blog that "provide a forum that advances progressive ideas and policies".[2] It is an outlet of the Center for American Progress.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinkProgress

QuoteFunding



The Center for American Progress is classified as a 501(c)(3) organization under U.S. Internal Revenue Code. The institute receives approximately $25 million per year in funding from a variety of sources, including individuals, foundations, and corporations. From 2003 to 2007, the center received about $15 million in grants from 58 foundations. Major individual donors include George Soros, Peter Lewis, Steve Bing, and Herbert M. Sandler. The Center receives undisclosed sums from corporate donors.[5]



Wal-Mart is a major funder of the Center for American Progress, having given at least half a million dollars to the organization. [6] Wal-Mart has been a major backer of Pres Obama's health care legislation, which critics contend would disproportionately drive up costs for Wal-Mart's smaller competitors. [7]



Some open government groups, such as the Sunlight Foundation and the Campaign Legal Center, criticize the Center's failure to disclose its contributors, particularly since it is so influential in appointments to the Obama administration.[8]



CAP has also been funded by the Democracy Alliance.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Center_for_American_Progress