Title: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 12:37:43 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 12:37:43 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 12:39:03 PM
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 12:39:03 PM
Prove me wrong.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 12:48:54 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 12:48:54 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 12:50:02 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 12:50:02 PM
People are dying from these experimental jabs and will continue to die.
Prove me wrong.
I think Fash just did.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 12:52:42 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 12:52:42 PM
This is from Alberta.(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://i.cbc.ca/1.6178513.1631835969!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_1180/vax-icu-outcome-by-age.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://i.cbc.ca/1.6178513.1631835969!/%20...%20by-age.jpg%22%3Ehttps://i.cbc.ca/1.6178513.1631835969!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_1180/vax-icu-outcome-by-age.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Okay, that's the treatment value. I admit the evidence is clear they work as treatments. I contend they do not control the spread. The countries with the highest vaccination rates have the worst spread.
Covid Surges In 4 Of 5 Most Vaccinated Countries—Here's Why The U.S. Should Worry
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 12, 2021, 12:57:08 PM
Post by: cc on October 12, 2021, 12:57:08 PM
The great amount of spread is coming from unvaxxed .. Why you ask? .. because most of the prople infected, even though they makeup only 18% of the people here they also make up most of the infected
Simple as a dimple
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 12:58:40 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 12:58:40 PM
Indirectly they do reduce spread. If one does not become infected, one does not spread
But, one can be asymptomatic and still spread the virus.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 12, 2021, 01:00:04 PM
Post by: cc on October 12, 2021, 01:00:04 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 01:02:22 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 01:02:22 PM
That's true .. but no one knows what % that makes up
And until we have the data on that, I will remain a vaccine skeptic.
I will say though, you are a formidable opponent cc. You have your ducks in order before you go into a debate.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 01:14:50 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 01:14:50 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 01:15:38 PM
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 01:15:38 PM
People are dying from these experimental jabs and will continue to die.
Prove me wrong.
I think Fash just did.
No, she proved something else entirely different...
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 01:18:28 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 01:18:28 PM
People are dying from these experimental jabs and will continue to die.
Prove me wrong.
I think Fash just did.
No, she proved something else entirely different...
She proved who is getting sick from COVID. I't not the vaxxed.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 01:22:12 PM
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 01:22:12 PM
People are dying from these experimental jabs and will continue to die.
Prove me wrong.
I think Fash just did.
No, she proved something else entirely different...
She proved who is getting sick from COVID. I't not the vaxxed.
The data worldwide says differently...
Wake up!
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 01:25:04 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 01:25:04 PM
People are dying from these experimental jabs and will continue to die.
Prove me wrong.
I think Fash just did.
No, she proved something else entirely different...
She proved who is getting sick from COVID. I't not the vaxxed.
The data worldwide says differently...
Canada is an island you say. Prove it without bitchute or memes.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 01:26:54 PM
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 01:26:54 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 01:30:25 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 01:30:25 PM
Prove otherwise with censored media and YouTube...
You can't support what you say with facts and data. I knew you couldn't.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 01:32:37 PM
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 01:32:37 PM
Prove otherwise with censored media and YouTube...
You can't support what you say with facts and data. I knew you couldn't.
You can't with approved sources and media blackouts...
I feel sad for you....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 01:35:57 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 01:35:57 PM
Prove otherwise with censored media and YouTube...
You can't support what you say with facts and data. I knew you couldn't.
You can't with approved sources and media blackouts...
I feel sad for you....
So memes and bitchute, and you feel sorry for me.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 01:37:48 PM
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 01:37:48 PM
Prove otherwise with censored media and YouTube...
You can't support what you say with facts and data. I knew you couldn't.
You can't with approved sources and media blackouts...
I feel sad for you....
So memes and bitchute, and you feel sorry for me.ac_toofunny
I feel sorry for you because you're stupid and are likely to go hungry and die in the next couple years.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 01:39:32 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 01:39:32 PM
Prove otherwise with censored media and YouTube...
You can't support what you say with facts and data. I knew you couldn't.
You can't with approved sources and media blackouts...
I feel sad for you....
So memes and bitchute, and you feel sorry for me.ac_toofunny
Memes are for white libtards.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 01:41:40 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 01:41:40 PM
Prove otherwise with censored media and YouTube...
You can't support what you say with facts and data. I knew you couldn't.
You can't with approved sources and media blackouts...
I feel sad for you....
So memes and bitchute, and you feel sorry for me.ac_toofunny
Memes are for white libtards.
They are for dishonest people who can't support what they believe in with hard data.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 01:42:37 PM
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 01:42:37 PM
Prove otherwise with censored media and YouTube...
You can't support what you say with facts and data. I knew you couldn't.
You can't with approved sources and media blackouts...
I feel sad for you....
So memes and bitchute, and you feel sorry for me.ac_toofunny
Memes are for white libtards.
And death is an assured outcome for fair weather libertarians who live in cities and think the supply chains are solid when they're crumbling....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 01:44:16 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 01:44:16 PM
Prove otherwise with censored media and YouTube...
You can't support what you say with facts and data. I knew you couldn't.
You can't with approved sources and media blackouts...
I feel sad for you....
So memes and bitchute, and you feel sorry for me.ac_toofunny
I feel sorry for you because you're stupid and are likely to go hungry and die in the next couple years.:negative:
That's your opinion and I don't care. Now back on topic, I doubt the efficacy of vaccines to control the spread. Can you convince me otherwise or do you agree" Prove it either way.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 01:45:21 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 01:45:21 PM
You can't support what you say with facts and data. I knew you couldn't.
You can't with approved sources and media blackouts...
I feel sad for you....
So memes and bitchute, and you feel sorry for me.ac_toofunny
Memes are for white libtards.
And death is an assured outcome for fair weather libertarians who live in cities and think the supply chains are solid when they're crumbling....
Memes belong on that white libtard hole called CBT.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 01:50:10 PM
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 01:50:10 PM
You can't support what you say with facts and data. I knew you couldn't.
You can't with approved sources and media blackouts...
I feel sad for you....
So memes and bitchute, and you feel sorry for me.ac_toofunny
I feel sorry for you because you're stupid and are likely to go hungry and die in the next couple years.:negative:
That's your opinion and I don't care. Now back on topic, I doubt the efficacy of vaccines to control the spread. Can you convince me otherwise or do you agree" Prove it either way.
I don't care about you either...
Believe or disbelieve what you want or not. It's still a partially free world in Western democracies... for a slight bit longer.
The day of reckoning is nearly upon us though... good luck.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 01:52:04 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 01:52:04 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 01:53:34 PM
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 01:53:34 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 01:56:34 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 01:56:34 PM
^^^ can't be fucked with self preservation... so sad....
I don't agree with Seoul on everything, but especially vaccines..
But, he is intelligent and a good contributor to any discussion he posts in.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 12, 2021, 01:58:07 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 12, 2021, 01:58:07 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 02:04:07 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 02:04:07 PM
look, man.... the companies manufacturing these 'miracles of modern science' are the same companies that have paid out billions in lawsuits for various crimes.... these are the same companies that can't even make baby powder that won't cause cancer.... what you ppl fail to understand is that yall are active participants in a stage three trial and the damage that yall have done to yourselves won't even begin to show for another two years.... much less the truly long term damage.... the way that these 'health officials' have downplayed and dismissed natural immunity combined with how they've disregarded non-invasive treatments like monoclonal anitibodies and ivermectin should trouble you to the core.... whats in that shot that has them so determined to get everyone jabbed up? theres something very sinister about the whole situation....
Great post.
Okay, so it's questionable corporate scientific transparency with you. Fair enough. And I agree these same companies need to put more dollars into treatments.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 02:05:53 PM
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 02:05:53 PM
^^^ can't be fucked with self preservation... so sad....
I don't agree with Seoul on everything, but especially vaccines..
But, he is intelligent and a good contributor to any discussion he posts in.
I'm sure he is but he lacks in some departments I hold dear...
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 02:09:45 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 02:09:45 PM
^^^ can't be fucked with self preservation... so sad....
I don't agree with Seoul on everything, but especially vaccines..
But, he is intelligent and a good contributor to any discussion he posts in.
I'm sure he is but he lacks in some departments I hold dear...
Our positions are not that far apart. I just want good debate. Look at dsm's post. He can hold his own.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 02:13:37 PM
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 02:13:37 PM
^^^ can't be fucked with self preservation... so sad....
I don't agree with Seoul on everything, but especially vaccines..
But, he is intelligent and a good contributor to any discussion he posts in.
I'm sure he is but he lacks in some departments I hold dear...
Our positions are not that far apart. I just want good debate. Look at dsm's post. He can hold his own.
I'm done presenting logic in the face of stupidity just as I would never try to reason with a cut snake... sorry, not sorry...
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 12, 2021, 02:16:46 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 12, 2021, 02:16:46 PM
look, man.... the companies manufacturing these 'miracles of modern science' are the same companies that have paid out billions in lawsuits for various crimes.... these are the same companies that can't even make baby powder that won't cause cancer.... what you ppl fail to understand is that yall are active participants in a stage three trial and the damage that yall have done to yourselves won't even begin to show for another two years.... much less the truly long term damage.... the way that these 'health officials' have downplayed and dismissed natural immunity combined with how they've disregarded non-invasive treatments like monoclonal anitibodies and ivermectin should trouble you to the core.... whats in that shot that has them so determined to get everyone jabbed up? theres something very sinister about the whole situation....
Great post.
Okay, so it's questionable corporate scientific transparency with you. Fair enough. And I agree these same companies need to put more dollars into treatments.
lack of transparency is indeed a problem for me but it goes even deeper than that.... like complete lack of legal responsibility surrounding the numerous injuries and deaths and the insistence of 'everyone taking these safe and effective shots are that are daily becoming even less safe and quite uneffective.... israel is on its 4th and 5th booster now.... i've been a skeptic my entire life but my 'bullshit' meter has never gauged anything as high as it has everything surrounding covid and this plandemic....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 02:17:57 PM
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 02:17:57 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 12, 2021, 02:21:19 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 12, 2021, 02:21:19 PM
Don't know why you're bothering....
because i want to guarantee my name on the ballot when 'i told you' town elects a mayor....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 02:23:27 PM
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 02:23:27 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 12, 2021, 02:25:35 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 12, 2021, 02:25:35 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 02:26:15 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 02:26:15 PM
look, man.... the companies manufacturing these 'miracles of modern science' are the same companies that have paid out billions in lawsuits for various crimes.... these are the same companies that can't even make baby powder that won't cause cancer.... what you ppl fail to understand is that yall are active participants in a stage three trial and the damage that yall have done to yourselves won't even begin to show for another two years.... much less the truly long term damage.... the way that these 'health officials' have downplayed and dismissed natural immunity combined with how they've disregarded non-invasive treatments like monoclonal anitibodies and ivermectin should trouble you to the core.... whats in that shot that has them so determined to get everyone jabbed up? theres something very sinister about the whole situation....
Great post.
Okay, so it's questionable corporate scientific transparency with you. Fair enough. And I agree these same companies need to put more dollars into treatments.
lack of transparency is indeed a problem for me but it goes even deeper than that.... like complete lack of legal responsibility surrounding the numerous injuries and deaths and the insistence of 'everyone taking these safe and effective shots are that are daily becoming even less safe and quite uneffective.... israel is on its 4th and 5th booster now.... i've been a skeptic my entire life but my 'bullshit' meter has never gauged anything as high as it has everything surrounding covid and this plandemic....
I am not cc or Fash. I question the efficacy of vaccines to control the spread. Where we disagree is that they are killers.
I was under the impression Israel is giving third jabs because pfizer loses it's limited efficacy after six months. Again, prove me wrong.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on October 12, 2021, 02:26:37 PM
Post by: Blazor on October 12, 2021, 02:26:37 PM
Fair enough.... but these people most likely won't be around to vote next year or year after...
Oh but they know they will! They look forward to their 20th shot like a good lil drug addict by then! Their media masters tell them they will live forever if they simply get a jab and eat a donut hahahaha.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on October 12, 2021, 02:26:49 PM
Post by: Blazor on October 12, 2021, 02:26:49 PM
dead ppl can still vote.... look at arizona....:laugh:
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 02:27:56 PM
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 02:27:56 PM
Fair enough.... but these people most likely won't be around to vote next year or year after...
Oh but they know they will! They look forward to their 20th shot like a good lil drug addict by then! Their media masters tell them they will live forever if they simply get a jab and eat a donut hahahaha.
Free donuts are the covid killer...
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on October 12, 2021, 02:28:31 PM
Post by: Blazor on October 12, 2021, 02:28:31 PM
look, man.... the companies manufacturing these 'miracles of modern science' are the same companies that have paid out billions in lawsuits for various crimes.... these are the same companies that can't even make baby powder that won't cause cancer.... what you ppl fail to understand is that yall are active participants in a stage three trial and the damage that yall have done to yourselves won't even begin to show for another two years.... much less the truly long term damage.... the way that these 'health officials' have downplayed and dismissed natural immunity combined with how they've disregarded non-invasive treatments like monoclonal anitibodies and ivermectin should trouble you to the core.... whats in that shot that has them so determined to get everyone jabbed up? theres something very sinister about the whole situation....
Great post.
Okay, so it's questionable corporate scientific transparency with you. Fair enough. And I agree these same companies need to put more dollars into treatments.
lack of transparency is indeed a problem for me but it goes even deeper than that.... like complete lack of legal responsibility surrounding the numerous injuries and deaths and the insistence of 'everyone taking these safe and effective shots are that are daily becoming even less safe and quite uneffective.... israel is on its 4th and 5th booster now.... i've been a skeptic my entire life but my 'bullshit' meter has never gauged anything as high as it has everything surrounding covid and this plandemic....
I am not cc or Fash. I question the efficacy of vaccines to control the spread. Where we disagree is that they are killers.
I was under the impression Israel is giving third jabs because pfizer loses it's limited efficacy after six months. Again, prove me wrong.
They neither prevent the spread, nor prevent you from getting it. That we agree on.
But its true, they are dying, in great numbers.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on October 12, 2021, 02:29:48 PM
Post by: Blazor on October 12, 2021, 02:29:48 PM
Fair enough.... but these people most likely won't be around to vote next year or year after...
Oh but they know they will! They look forward to their 20th shot like a good lil drug addict by then! Their media masters tell them they will live forever if they simply get a jab and eat a donut hahahaha.
Free donuts are the covid killer...
Lol, so backwards too.....
Cause the majority of those getting "the flu" are mostly overweight, or have pre-existing conditions. Yet, eat more donuts, get more fat, science!!!
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 02:30:44 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 02:30:44 PM
look, man.... the companies manufacturing these 'miracles of modern science' are the same companies that have paid out billions in lawsuits for various crimes.... these are the same companies that can't even make baby powder that won't cause cancer.... what you ppl fail to understand is that yall are active participants in a stage three trial and the damage that yall have done to yourselves won't even begin to show for another two years.... much less the truly long term damage.... the way that these 'health officials' have downplayed and dismissed natural immunity combined with how they've disregarded non-invasive treatments like monoclonal anitibodies and ivermectin should trouble you to the core.... whats in that shot that has them so determined to get everyone jabbed up? theres something very sinister about the whole situation....
Great post.
Okay, so it's questionable corporate scientific transparency with you. Fair enough. And I agree these same companies need to put more dollars into treatments.
lack of transparency is indeed a problem for me but it goes even deeper than that.... like complete lack of legal responsibility surrounding the numerous injuries and deaths and the insistence of 'everyone taking these safe and effective shots are that are daily becoming even less safe and quite uneffective.... israel is on its 4th and 5th booster now.... i've been a skeptic my entire life but my 'bullshit' meter has never gauged anything as high as it has everything surrounding covid and this plandemic....
I am not cc or Fash. I question the efficacy of vaccines to control the spread. Where we disagree is that they are killers.
I was under the impression Israel is giving third jabs because pfizer loses it's limited efficacy after six months. Again, prove me wrong.
They neither prevent the spread, nor prevent you from getting it. That we agree on.
But its true, they are dying, in great numbers.
Where's your horseshit meme asshole.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 12, 2021, 02:31:52 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 12, 2021, 02:31:52 PM
look, man.... the companies manufacturing these 'miracles of modern science' are the same companies that have paid out billions in lawsuits for various crimes.... these are the same companies that can't even make baby powder that won't cause cancer.... what you ppl fail to understand is that yall are active participants in a stage three trial and the damage that yall have done to yourselves won't even begin to show for another two years.... much less the truly long term damage.... the way that these 'health officials' have downplayed and dismissed natural immunity combined with how they've disregarded non-invasive treatments like monoclonal anitibodies and ivermectin should trouble you to the core.... whats in that shot that has them so determined to get everyone jabbed up? theres something very sinister about the whole situation....
Great post.
Okay, so it's questionable corporate scientific transparency with you. Fair enough. And I agree these same companies need to put more dollars into treatments.
lack of transparency is indeed a problem for me but it goes even deeper than that.... like complete lack of legal responsibility surrounding the numerous injuries and deaths and the insistence of 'everyone taking these safe and effective shots are that are daily becoming even less safe and quite uneffective.... israel is on its 4th and 5th booster now.... i've been a skeptic my entire life but my 'bullshit' meter has never gauged anything as high as it has everything surrounding covid and this plandemic....
I am not cc or Fash. I question the efficacy of vaccines to control the spread. Where we disagree is that they are killers.
I was under the impression Israel is giving third jabs because pfizer loses it's limited efficacy after six months. Again, prove me wrong.
heres an article.... and some ppl are on number 5 as well....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 02:33:22 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 02:33:22 PM
look, man.... the companies manufacturing these 'miracles of modern science' are the same companies that have paid out billions in lawsuits for various crimes.... these are the same companies that can't even make baby powder that won't cause cancer.... what you ppl fail to understand is that yall are active participants in a stage three trial and the damage that yall have done to yourselves won't even begin to show for another two years.... much less the truly long term damage.... the way that these 'health officials' have downplayed and dismissed natural immunity combined with how they've disregarded non-invasive treatments like monoclonal anitibodies and ivermectin should trouble you to the core.... whats in that shot that has them so determined to get everyone jabbed up? theres something very sinister about the whole situation....
Great post.
Okay, so it's questionable corporate scientific transparency with you. Fair enough. And I agree these same companies need to put more dollars into treatments.
lack of transparency is indeed a problem for me but it goes even deeper than that.... like complete lack of legal responsibility surrounding the numerous injuries and deaths and the insistence of 'everyone taking these safe and effective shots are that are daily becoming even less safe and quite uneffective.... israel is on its 4th and 5th booster now.... i've been a skeptic my entire life but my 'bullshit' meter has never gauged anything as high as it has everything surrounding covid and this plandemic....
I am not cc or Fash. I question the efficacy of vaccines to control the spread. Where we disagree is that they are killers.
I was under the impression Israel is giving third jabs because pfizer loses it's limited efficacy after six months. Again, prove me wrong.
heres an article.... and some ppl are on number 5 as well....https://www.activistpost.com/2021/09/israelis-rise-up-against-vaxx-passports-after-being-told-more-shots-needed-to-be-considered-fully-vaccinated.html
Can you stick around a minute or two while I read it? I'll get right back to you.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on October 12, 2021, 02:34:06 PM
Post by: Blazor on October 12, 2021, 02:34:06 PM
Great post.
Okay, so it's questionable corporate scientific transparency with you. Fair enough. And I agree these same companies need to put more dollars into treatments.
lack of transparency is indeed a problem for me but it goes even deeper than that.... like complete lack of legal responsibility surrounding the numerous injuries and deaths and the insistence of 'everyone taking these safe and effective shots are that are daily becoming even less safe and quite uneffective.... israel is on its 4th and 5th booster now.... i've been a skeptic my entire life but my 'bullshit' meter has never gauged anything as high as it has everything surrounding covid and this plandemic....
I am not cc or Fash. I question the efficacy of vaccines to control the spread. Where we disagree is that they are killers.
I was under the impression Israel is giving third jabs because pfizer loses it's limited efficacy after six months. Again, prove me wrong.
They neither prevent the spread, nor prevent you from getting it. That we agree on.
But its true, they are dying, in great numbers.
Where's your horseshit meme asshole.
Right here pudding cup!!!!
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 02:34:50 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 02:34:50 PM
Great post.
Okay, so it's questionable corporate scientific transparency with you. Fair enough. And I agree these same companies need to put more dollars into treatments.
lack of transparency is indeed a problem for me but it goes even deeper than that.... like complete lack of legal responsibility surrounding the numerous injuries and deaths and the insistence of 'everyone taking these safe and effective shots are that are daily becoming even less safe and quite uneffective.... israel is on its 4th and 5th booster now.... i've been a skeptic my entire life but my 'bullshit' meter has never gauged anything as high as it has everything surrounding covid and this plandemic....
I am not cc or Fash. I question the efficacy of vaccines to control the spread. Where we disagree is that they are killers.
I was under the impression Israel is giving third jabs because pfizer loses it's limited efficacy after six months. Again, prove me wrong.
They neither prevent the spread, nor prevent you from getting it. That we agree on.
But its true, they are dying, in great numbers.
Where's your horseshit meme asshole.
A twenty four hour ban..
Knock it off Shen.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on October 12, 2021, 02:35:52 PM
Post by: Blazor on October 12, 2021, 02:35:52 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 02:37:37 PM
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 02:37:37 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 12, 2021, 02:37:51 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 12, 2021, 02:37:51 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 02:38:48 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 02:38:48 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 02:40:14 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 02:40:14 PM
A search indicates that Israel is mandating third shots for it's green card thingy.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on October 12, 2021, 02:40:29 PM
Post by: Blazor on October 12, 2021, 02:40:29 PM
Shen Li is one of my favourite psychopaths.
Indeed. Its fun to watch
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on October 12, 2021, 02:41:07 PM
Post by: Blazor on October 12, 2021, 02:41:07 PM
@dsm,
A search indicates that Israel is mandating third shots for it's green card thingy.
Did you use google?
His article says 4.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 02:41:59 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 02:41:59 PM
Shen Li is one of my favourite psychopaths.
Indeed. Its fun to watch:pop:
She provides entertainment, I will say that.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 02:43:07 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 02:43:07 PM
@dsm,
A search indicates that Israel is mandating third shots for it's green card thingy.
Did you use google?
His article says 4.
Indeed I did. I can't find anything from the Israeli government that says that.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 02:44:38 PM
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 02:44:38 PM
@dsm,
A search indicates that Israel is mandating third shots for it's green card thingy.
Did you use google?
His article says 4.
Google and YouTube are controlled by Alphabet... finding any legit info there is a stretch...
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on October 12, 2021, 02:45:08 PM
Post by: Blazor on October 12, 2021, 02:45:08 PM
@dsm,
A search indicates that Israel is mandating third shots for it's green card thingy.
Did you use google?
His article says 4.
Indeed I did. I can't find anything from the Israeli government that says that.
You cant trust google anymore man. They became compromised 5 years ago. Their algorithms will hide whatever they wanna hide from you, and manipulate your results.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 12, 2021, 02:45:58 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 12, 2021, 02:45:58 PM
@dsm,
A search indicates that Israel is mandating third shots for it's green card thingy.
google is not on your side.... some of israel are already on their 4th and 5th dose.... and a 4th dose will be required to keep the passport active....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 02:46:17 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 02:46:17 PM
Shen Li is one of my favourite psychopaths.
That's not nice Seoul..
Shen Li is hyper emotional for sure..
When she isn't wishing death on Caucasians, she's a good contributor.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 02:47:46 PM
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 02:47:46 PM
Shen Li is one of my favourite psychopaths.
That's not nice Seoul..
Shen Li is hyper emotional for sure..
When she isn't wishing death on Caucasians, she's a good contributor.
I would keep her in my dungeon for a few months until her arse wasn't so fat...
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 02:50:21 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 02:50:21 PM
Shen Li is one of my favourite psychopaths.
That's not nice Seoul..
Shen Li is hyper emotional for sure..
When she isn't wishing death on Caucasians, she's a good contributor.
She's a nutjob. I don't want her in my thread.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 12, 2021, 05:37:20 PM
Post by: cc on October 12, 2021, 05:37:20 PM
@dsm,
A search indicates that Israel is mandating third shots for it's green card thingy.
.....dose. [size=130]some of israel are already on their 4th and 5th[/size] ... and a 4th dose will be required to keep the passport active....
I claim Bullshit although I prolly shouldn't even reply to a claim without solid link ... no SOLID link is pure crapola
.... It's started 3rd shots
Israel's vaccine pass will expire 6 months after the 2nd dose, meaning people will need booster shots to keep going to restaurants and bars
The news comes as Israel rolls out boosters to most of its population. ........
"From today, the third dose is available to everyone," said Israeli Health Ministry Director-General Nachman Ash on Sunday, the Times of Israel reported.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 12, 2021, 06:00:43 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 12, 2021, 06:00:43 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 12, 2021, 06:05:38 PM
Post by: cc on October 12, 2021, 06:05:38 PM
that's what I thought
some were immuno-compromised and some were to comply with travel restrictions to other countriesQuote
you conveniently didn"t say that initially ..... even if true
If true, likely AZ eh? which is not accepted by some places ... & which is not the dun on vaccines as you sneakily attempted
Nice try tho
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 12, 2021, 06:18:45 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 12, 2021, 06:18:45 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 12, 2021, 06:20:41 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 12, 2021, 06:20:41 PM
Indirectly they do reduce spread. If one does not become infected, one does not spread
This is a somewhat subtle deceit. I do not mean to imply that cc is being deceitful wilfully, but the statement is a misconception.
I have been vaccinated. I can still contract the disease, but the inoculation will mitigate symptoms. It will not "cure" or "prevent" the virus.
If I contract the virus, at my age I will almost certainly show symptoms but hopefully not as lethal as being unvaccinated.
During that time I can spread the virus to others.
The vaccination does not stop the spread. It ameliorates the impact of the infection and thus relieves pressure on hospitals and medical services. It saves the lives of those most vulnerable. I would have been utterly irresponsible if I had declined the vaccine. In my case, the choice is between side effects and some discomfort or potential fatality. This tends to override issues such as human rights and freedom of choice.
Were I younger, my approach may well be different. But all that matters is I am protected. If you choose otherwise, that's your problem.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 12, 2021, 06:39:28 PM
Post by: cc on October 12, 2021, 06:39:28 PM
Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Oct. 4-10 2021)
Not vaccinated: 281.3
Partially vaccinated: 84.4
Fully vaccinated: 33.1
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 12, 2021, 06:48:44 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 12, 2021, 06:48:44 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 12, 2021, 06:58:29 PM
Post by: cc on October 12, 2021, 06:58:29 PM
Here's today's update on hospitalizations from BC Health (which echos similar data from UK etc. etc. etc.)Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Sept. 27-Oct. 10)
Not vaccinated: 40.3
Partially vaccinated: 12.3
Fully vaccinated: 2.3
As of today, vaccination rates 1st dose = 89.3% ....2nd dose = 83.3%
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 12, 2021, 07:08:27 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 12, 2021, 07:08:27 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 07:23:50 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 07:23:50 PM
Moving on
Here's today's update on hospitalizations from BC Health (which echos similar data from UK etc. etc. etc.)Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Sept. 27-Oct. 10)
Not vaccinated: 40.3
Partially vaccinated: 12.3
Fully vaccinated: 2.3
As of today, vaccination rates 1st dose = 89.3% ....2nd dose = 83.3%
That's 54.9 per cent.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 07:46:01 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 07:46:01 PM
606 Cases on October 11
628 Cases on October 10
1,039 Cases on October 9
1,085 Cases on October 8
Of the 606 cases yesterday, 28 per cent were fully vaccinated.....76 per cent of Albertans are fully vaccinated..
There are 1053 people hospitalized of which 21.9 per cent are fully vaccinated..
There are 242 people in ICU in this province, 8.3 per cent are fully vaccinated.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 12, 2021, 07:52:42 PM
Post by: cc on October 12, 2021, 07:52:42 PM
Moving on
Here's today's update on hospitalizations from BC Health (which echos similar data from UK etc. etc. etc.)Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Sept. 27-Oct. 10)
Not vaccinated: 40.3
Partially vaccinated: 12.3
Fully vaccinated: 2.3
As of today, vaccination rates 1st dose = 89.3% ....2nd dose = 83.3%
That's 54.9 per cent.
It's not a % - It represents per 100,000 in each group and produces an actual number / 100,000 for and with which to compare the frequency of occurrence of each group as to hospitalization
I like this way as when number is given in %, one has to then calculate those vaxxed and not vaxxed to compare the odds - this method produces a direct comparison (or odds of being hospitalized) for each group
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 07:59:08 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 07:59:08 PM
Moving on
Here's today's update on hospitalizations from BC Health (which echos similar data from UK etc. etc. etc.)Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Sept. 27-Oct. 10)
Not vaccinated: 40.3
Partially vaccinated: 12.3
Fully vaccinated: 2.3
As of today, vaccination rates 1st dose = 89.3% ....2nd dose = 83.3%
That's 54.9 per cent.
It's not a % - It represents per 100,000 and produces an actual number / 100,000 for and with which to compare the frequency of occurrence of each group as to hospitalization
I like this way as when number is given in %, one has to then calculate those vaxxed and not vaxxed to compare the odds - this method produces a direct comparison (or odds of being hospitalized)
oops
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 12, 2021, 08:02:38 PM
Post by: cc on October 12, 2021, 08:02:38 PM
It shows almost 20 X greater chance for unvaxxed individuals vs vacced individuals being hospitalized at a glance
BC Health site also shows relative odds of being infected
CASES per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Sept. 27-Oct. 3)
Not vaccinated: 297.3
Partially vaccinated: 90.1
Fully vaccinated: 35.1
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 08:09:20 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 08:09:20 PM
Here's today's update from BC Health (which echos similar data from UK etc. etc. etc.)
Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Oct. 4-10 2021)
Not vaccinated: 281.3
Partially vaccinated: 84.4
Fully vaccinated: 33.1
Unvaccinated are about 8.5 times more likely to catch COVID than unvaccinated out in BC.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 12, 2021, 08:10:09 PM
Post by: cc on October 12, 2021, 08:10:09 PM
Here's today's update from BC Health (which echos similar data from UK etc. etc. etc.)
Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Oct. 4-10 2021)
Not vaccinated: 281.3
Partially vaccinated: 84.4
Fully vaccinated: 33.1
Unvaccinated are about 8.5 times more likely to catch COVID than unvaccinated out in BC.
Exactly ... stats given in this form make comparison of groups (and relative odds for those in each group) easy
I forgot the link this time - it's same as one for hospitalizations above ^^
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 08:33:42 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 08:33:42 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 10:04:24 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 10:04:24 PM
As of October 2, 2021, a cumulative total of 905 reports have been received, following 1,613,309 doses of COVID-19 vaccines administered, with a reporting rate of 0.56 per 1000 doses administered (0.056% of all doses administered). Refer to Tables 1 and 2 for more details.
Adverse event type # of events
Injection site reactions 162
Rashes (all) 156
Anesthesia/paresthesia 152
Edema (allergic, not injection site) 144
Vomiting/diarrhea/nausea 95
Anaphylaxis 58
Headache 54
Chest tightness 42
Malaise/lethargy 33
Fever 27
Arthralgia/arthritis/joint pain 27
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 10:42:45 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 10:42:45 PM
I found something from my province on adverse reactions.
As of October 2, 2021, a cumulative total of 905 reports have been received, following 1,613,309 doses of COVID-19 vaccines administered, with a reporting rate of 0.56 per 1000 doses administered (0.056% of all doses administered). Refer to Tables 1 and 2 for more details.
Adverse event type # of events
Injection site reactions 162
Rashes (all) 156
Anesthesia/paresthesia 152
Edema (allergic, not injection site) 144
Vomiting/diarrhea/nausea 95
Anaphylaxis 58
Headache 54
Chest tightness 42
Malaise/lethargy 33
Fever 27
Arthralgia/arthritis/joint pain 27https://www.saskatchewan.ca/government/health-care-administration-and-provider-resources/treatment-procedures-and-guidelines/emerging-public-health-issues/2019-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-vaccine/covid-19-vaccine-information/covid-19-vaccine-details/summary-of-covid-19-vaccine-aefi-reports-received-in-saskatchewan
Only 905 adverse reactions from over 1.6 million doses administered....most of them mild too..
That's better than seasonal flu vaccines.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 10:44:30 PM
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 10:44:30 PM
i don't give a fuck what you believe nor what you reply to.... ppl there have indeed received 4th and 5th shots.... some were immuno-compromised and some were to comply with travel restrictions to other countries.... 6 companies own 95% of the media so if you think everything factual has a link, you're an idiot.... have a day....
I'm done with these covid cultists too.... they fucked the thread with their blind stupidity.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 10:47:32 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 10:47:32 PM
I found something from my province on adverse reactions.
As of October 2, 2021, a cumulative total of 905 reports have been received, following 1,613,309 doses of COVID-19 vaccines administered, with a reporting rate of 0.56 per 1000 doses administered (0.056% of all doses administered). Refer to Tables 1 and 2 for more details.
Adverse event type # of events
Injection site reactions 162
Rashes (all) 156
Anesthesia/paresthesia 152
Edema (allergic, not injection site) 144
Vomiting/diarrhea/nausea 95
Anaphylaxis 58
Headache 54
Chest tightness 42
Malaise/lethargy 33
Fever 27
Arthralgia/arthritis/joint pain 27https://www.saskatchewan.ca/government/health-care-administration-and-provider-resources/treatment-procedures-and-guidelines/emerging-public-health-issues/2019-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-vaccine/covid-19-vaccine-information/covid-19-vaccine-details/summary-of-covid-19-vaccine-aefi-reports-received-in-saskatchewan
Only 905 adverse reactions from over 1.6 million doses administered....most of them mild too..
That's better than seasonal flu vaccines.
As someone posted, Aspirin has more serious side effects than either the mRNA or adenovirus vaccones.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 12, 2021, 10:53:40 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 12, 2021, 10:53:40 PM
The three most vocal and hysterical opponents of vaccination are American.
No wonder their country is properly fucked.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 10:56:21 PM
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 10:56:21 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 12, 2021, 10:58:34 PM
Post by: cc on October 12, 2021, 10:58:34 PM
You've got microclots in your micro brain and micro prick, mate...
Wow!!
That'll fix him
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 12, 2021, 11:08:29 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 12, 2021, 11:08:29 PM
You've got microclots in your micro brain and micro prick, mate...
Oh, Freud...how COULD you!!!
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 11:11:36 PM
Post by: Frood on October 12, 2021, 11:11:36 PM
You've got microclots in your micro brain and micro prick, mate...
Oh, Freud...how COULD you!!!
ac_sothere
It's like riding a bike.
Or in CC's case, riding her thumb.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 11:42:29 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 11:42:29 PM
This is from Alberta.(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://i.cbc.ca/1.6178513.1631835969!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_1180/vax-icu-outcome-by-age.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://i.cbc.ca/1.6178513.1631835969!/%20...%20by-age.jpg%22%3Ehttps://i.cbc.ca/1.6178513.1631835969!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_1180/vax-icu-outcome-by-age.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
I don't think anybody seriously believes any of the vaccines are more dangerous than COVID itself. There just aint evidence to support that.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 11:52:20 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2021, 11:52:20 PM
This is from Alberta.(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://i.cbc.ca/1.6178513.1631835969!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_1180/vax-icu-outcome-by-age.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://i.cbc.ca/1.6178513.1631835969!/%20...%20by-age.jpg%22%3Ehttps://i.cbc.ca/1.6178513.1631835969!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_1180/vax-icu-outcome-by-age.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
I don't think anybody seriously believes any of the vaccines are more dangerous than COVID itself. There just aint evidence to support that.
The stats you posted from Saskatchewan prove that.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2021, 12:32:21 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2021, 12:32:21 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 13, 2021, 05:35:34 AM
Post by: Frood on October 13, 2021, 05:35:34 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2021, 09:00:41 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2021, 09:00:41 AM
Here is a new (old) drug repurposed and trialling in Russia... sounds excellent... a stomach ulcer drug which alleviates cytokine storms in the virus hit.https://www.rt.com/russia/537205-new-covid-drug-cytokine-storm/
That's good, and Russia needs it......they're getting around one thousand deaths each day.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 13, 2021, 10:40:04 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 13, 2021, 10:40:04 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 13, 2021, 01:15:21 PM
Post by: cc on October 13, 2021, 01:15:21 PM
But then, I'm a mere ignorant motherfucker of another mother
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on October 13, 2021, 01:27:28 PM
Post by: Blazor on October 13, 2021, 01:27:28 PM
I don't think anybody seriously believes any of the vaccines are more dangerous than COVID itself.There just aint evidence to support that.
Because THEY dont want you to see it!!!
Did you know, months ago, there was a Facebook page with over 75,000 people on it, describing adverse effects from the vax, and FB deleted it.
ALL proof they are trying to bury so quickly. Media in on it, Social Media in on it, Youtube in on it, etc.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on October 13, 2021, 01:28:27 PM
Post by: Blazor on October 13, 2021, 01:28:27 PM
Here is an anti-vaxxer who wishes he got vaccinated.[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J36LJiU4ha0 [/media]
I can show you WAY more vids of folks who wished they hadnt gotten it.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 13, 2021, 01:32:58 PM
Post by: cc on October 13, 2021, 01:32:58 PM
Enter "beating on dead horse" for all parties on either side of argument
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on October 13, 2021, 01:50:38 PM
Post by: Blazor on October 13, 2021, 01:50:38 PM
Posting individual "claims" is no more productive toward any resolution than any other arguments
Enter "beating on dead horse" for all parties on either side of argument
I really dont like all this crap CC.
Its so divisive these days, which is what I feel THEY want. There is no middle ground these days.
THEY fear us when we are united. And right now, we really all need to be united. THEIR plans are already crumbling. THEY need to feel the wraith of the things THEY have done.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2021, 03:35:37 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2021, 03:35:37 PM
Here is an anti-vaxxer who wishes he got vaccinated.[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J36LJiU4ha0 [/media]
I can show you WAY more vids of folks who wished they hadnt gotten it.
From bitchute? Like that fake video of Gates you fell for.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2021, 03:36:09 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2021, 03:36:09 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 13, 2021, 03:37:47 PM
Post by: Frood on October 13, 2021, 03:37:47 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Odinson on October 13, 2021, 05:04:08 PM
Post by: Odinson on October 13, 2021, 05:04:08 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 13, 2021, 06:33:08 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 13, 2021, 06:33:08 PM
look here, ppl.... maybe i'm missing something.... but it seems to me that yall aren't thinking this through.... the same guy who wrecked everyones economy with his horrible 'health recommendations' happens to be the same guy who funded the GOF research that created the virus.... the same guy who preaches about overpopulation is the same guy who wants to 'save every living human' with his wonderful 'safe and effective' vaccine.... the companies manufacturing this 'little miracle' are the same companies who face no legal responsibility for killing and maiming, are constantly involved with unethical and illegal business practices like suppressing negative results, bribing health services and skipping safety protocols.... these ppl can't even make baby powder thats not cancerous.... since the onset of covid, they've changed the definition of 'safe', 'effective', 'vaccine', 'fully immunized', 'herd immunity' and 'cause of death'.... that should set alarm bells ringing in and of itself.... not to mention how they've downplayed and dismissed natural immunity and restricted effective and proven alternative treatments.... they've been wrong at every turn. they've lied on multiple occasions. they've censored, silenced, threatened, blocked and throttled half of the medical and scientific community while encouraging celebrities and sports figures multiple platforms to offer medical advice.... theres no accountability in this administration.... theres a public health official who funded the virus, a general who openly commited treason, a fraudulently 'elected' president with direct ties to china.... none of them are facing charges and nobody blinks an eye about it.... and yall are so quick to tell me how 'safe and effective' the vaccine (which would normally be tested for 10 years prior to public use) is, just because you didn't die or get maimed from the initial injection (unlike alot of others) and because it sorta halfassed does what it was supposed to do more or less.... we won't know the full effects of it for at least another 3 to 5 years.... and the virus its allegedly 'protecting' you from is 99.9% survivable with atleast 7 different alternative treatments.... i think you vaccinated ppl are in for a real surprise and i'm truly sorry about that.... but yall ignorant motherfuckers shoulda known better....
This is rather typical of conspiracy theorists debating methodolgy. You take a wide range of issues arising from fact, assumption, mistruth, deception and rumour, wrap it all up in one neat little package and say "See, I told you so", ignoring the reality that potatoes plus Lamborghinis plus 3 dwarves in a snowstorm does not equate to FACT. Even a collation of established and verified FACTS do not always constitute truth or reality.
What winds me up is that this issue is now becoming yet another wedge in already fractured communities and nations.
It is a simple matter. Take the vaccine if you want. Don't take it if you don't want to.
But in the 21st century, human society is no longer able to tolerate differences. The adage that "I am right, and everyone who disagrees with me is evil" is alive and well.
Climate change alarmism, sexism, racism, LGBTQ demands, capitalism, communism and other political ideologies,religion and simple alternate points of view are destroying us. We are eating ourselves alive.
I fear we have passed the point of simply retracing our steps. We are in the grip of madness, and this thread is just another symptom.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 13, 2021, 06:38:19 PM
Post by: cc on October 13, 2021, 06:38:19 PM
Posting individual "claims" is no more productive toward any resolution than any other arguments
Enter "beating on dead horse" for all parties on either side of argument
I really dont like all this crap CC.
Its so divisive these days, which is what I feel THEY want. There is no middle ground these days.
THEY fear us when we are united. And right now, we really all need to be united. THEIR plans are already crumbling. THEY need to feel the wraith of the things THEY have done.
You don't seem to think about "united and not divided " when you deliberately, and often not in reply volunteer divisive material, threads and comments on others
Seems in effect you are going out of your way .. like on a mission .. to give "THEY" what you say "THEY" want
Actions are not matching your words here
If you want "united" then back off deriding those you say you want to be united with and stop treating others as pariahs and deliberately ignoring their debunks .. at least be decent with people
In short, put yer money where your typing fingers are and stop helping "They"
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 13, 2021, 06:45:52 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 13, 2021, 06:45:52 PM
It is a simple matter. Take the vaccine if you want. Don't take it if you don't want toQuote from: Bricktop post_id=423533 time=1634164388 user_id=1560
i'm behind that 100%.... but as you see in australia and as we're seeing in america, thats not gonna be an option....
(on a side note - i'm glad to see you're alive and well. i'm sorry about the way things are going there. i imagine as an ex-cop its gotta be tough to see things turn the way they have. i know we don't agree on anything but i still think you're a good guy for the most part)
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 13, 2021, 06:52:36 PM
Post by: Frood on October 13, 2021, 06:52:36 PM
look here, ppl.... maybe i'm missing something.... but it seems to me that yall aren't thinking this through.... the same guy who wrecked everyones economy with his horrible 'health recommendations' happens to be the same guy who funded the GOF research that created the virus.... the same guy who preaches about overpopulation is the same guy who wants to 'save every living human' with his wonderful 'safe and effective' vaccine.... the companies manufacturing this 'little miracle' are the same companies who face no legal responsibility for killing and maiming, are constantly involved with unethical and illegal business practices like suppressing negative results, bribing health services and skipping safety protocols.... these ppl can't even make baby powder thats not cancerous.... since the onset of covid, they've changed the definition of 'safe', 'effective', 'vaccine', 'fully immunized', 'herd immunity' and 'cause of death'.... that should set alarm bells ringing in and of itself.... not to mention how they've downplayed and dismissed natural immunity and restricted effective and proven alternative treatments.... they've been wrong at every turn. they've lied on multiple occasions. they've censored, silenced, threatened, blocked and throttled half of the medical and scientific community while encouraging celebrities and sports figures multiple platforms to offer medical advice.... theres no accountability in this administration.... theres a public health official who funded the virus, a general who openly commited treason, a fraudulently 'elected' president with direct ties to china.... none of them are facing charges and nobody blinks an eye about it.... and yall are so quick to tell me how 'safe and effective' the vaccine (which would normally be tested for 10 years prior to public use) is, just because you didn't die or get maimed from the initial injection (unlike alot of others) and because it sorta halfassed does what it was supposed to do more or less.... we won't know the full effects of it for at least another 3 to 5 years.... and the virus its allegedly 'protecting' you from is 99.9% survivable with atleast 7 different alternative treatments.... i think you vaccinated ppl are in for a real surprise and i'm truly sorry about that.... but yall ignorant motherfuckers shoulda known better....
This is rather typical of conspiracy theorists debating methodolgy. You take a wide range of issues arising from fact, assumption, mistruth, deception and rumour, wrap it all up in one neat little package and say "See, I told you so", ignoring the reality that potatoes plus Lamborghinis plus 3 dwarves in a snowstorm does not equate to FACT. Even a collation of established and verified FACTS do not always constitute truth or reality.
What winds me up is that this issue is now becoming yet another wedge in already fractured communities and nations.
It is a simple matter. Take the vaccine if you want. Don't take it if you don't want to.
But in the 21st century, human society is no longer able to tolerate differences. The adage that "I am right, and everyone who disagrees with me is evil" is alive and well.
Climate change alarmism, sexism, racism, LGBTQ demands, capitalism, communism and other political ideologies,religion and simple alternate points of view are destroying us. We are eating ourselves alive.
I fear we have passed the point of simply retracing our steps. We are in the grip of madness, and this thread is just another symptom.
My state is soon to leave lockdown, but then I'm going to be "locked out" because I refuse to be coerced.
If it was as simple as get it or don't get it, I'd be fine with that. It's not... no employment and no free movement...aka medical apartheid creates a class system here.
It's disgusting and violates local and international laws/treaties.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on October 13, 2021, 07:06:26 PM
Post by: Blazor on October 13, 2021, 07:06:26 PM
From bitchute? Like that fake video of Gates you fell for.ac_lmfao
Hahaha, you mean like that poison jab you fell for lol, that wont protect you, nor keep you from spreading it to others? Sucker.
The Gates vid wasnt fake.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 13, 2021, 07:09:44 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 13, 2021, 07:09:44 PM
From bitchute? Like that fake video of Gates you fell for.ac_lmfao
Hahaha, you mean like that poison jab you fell for lol, that wont protect you, nor keep you from spreading it to others? Sucker.
The Gates vid wasnt fake.
which 'gates video'? is he talking about the tedtalks video about lowering the population with vaccines? lol....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on October 13, 2021, 07:10:08 PM
Post by: Blazor on October 13, 2021, 07:10:08 PM
What winds me up is that this issue is now becoming yet another wedge in already fractured communities and nations.
It is a simple matter. Take the vaccine if you want. Don't take it if you don't want to.
But in the 21st century, human society is no longer able to tolerate differences. The adage that "I am right, and everyone who disagrees with me is evil" is alive and well.
Climate change alarmism, sexism, racism, LGBTQ demands, capitalism, communism and other political ideologies,religion and simple alternate points of view are destroying us. We are eating ourselves alive.
I fear we have passed the point of simply retracing our steps. We are in the grip of madness, and this thread is just another symptom.
Dude, I know!!!!
And THEY will hide out in their fucking bunkers while we battle it out and they drone our asses with remote control!
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on October 13, 2021, 07:13:16 PM
Post by: Blazor on October 13, 2021, 07:13:16 PM
Posting individual "claims" is no more productive toward any resolution than any other arguments
Enter "beating on dead horse" for all parties on either side of argument
I really dont like all this crap CC.
Its so divisive these days, which is what I feel THEY want. There is no middle ground these days.
THEY fear us when we are united. And right now, we really all need to be united. THEIR plans are already crumbling. THEY need to feel the wraith of the things THEY have done.
You don't seem to think about "united and not divided " when you deliberately, and often not in reply volunteer divisive material, threads and comments on others
Seems in effect you are going out of your way .. like on a mission .. to give "THEY" what you say "THEY" want
Actions are not matching your words here
If you want "united" then back off deriding those you say you want to be united with and stop treating others as pariahs and deliberately ignoring their debunks .. at least be decent with people
In short, put yer money where your typing fingers are and stop helping "They":wink:
Um, y'all started that shit, dont you point your dirty Jew finger at me! hahahahahaha (channeling Scouse, since you seem to think I am anyway).
I dont want the conflict, but its headed that direction, no matter what I say.
If it was up to me, I'd invite everyone to the biggest bonfire, with the most moonshine and good times that you've ever seen! And it wouldnt matter if you was vaxxed or not! Nor if you was anything that is being argued about these days. Just be a good person!!! FUCK!!!
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on October 13, 2021, 07:14:42 PM
Post by: Blazor on October 13, 2021, 07:14:42 PM
From bitchute? Like that fake video of Gates you fell for.ac_lmfao
Hahaha, you mean like that poison jab you fell for lol, that wont protect you, nor keep you from spreading it to others? Sucker.
The Gates vid wasnt fake.
which 'gates video'? is he talking about the tedtalks video about lowering the population with vaccines? lol....
Lol nah. Not THAT! That one is obvious lol.
It was where he was literally holding a model of DNA, and talking about how mRNA changes your DNA. lol
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 13, 2021, 07:20:19 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 13, 2021, 07:20:19 PM
It was where he was literally holding a model of DNA, and talking about how mRNA changes your DNA. lol
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2021, 07:34:31 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2021, 07:34:31 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 13, 2021, 07:35:58 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 13, 2021, 07:35:58 PM
It is a simple matter. Take the vaccine if you want. Don't take it if you don't want toQuote from: Bricktop post_id=423533 time=1634164388 user_id=1560
i'm behind that 100%.... but as you see in australia and as we're seeing in america, thats not gonna be an option....
(on a side note - i'm glad to see you're alive and well. i'm sorry about the way things are going there. i imagine as an ex-cop its gotta be tough to see things turn the way they have. i know we don't agree on anything but i still think you're a good guy for the most part)
Cheers
It's a real shit show here...but mostly in other States. Some of the things police officers have been compelled to do are disgraceful, and the reasons people are being arrested is dictator level government authority.
And I agree...abstention is currently not an option if we believe governments and corporations that DEMAND their staff be jabbed. This is outrageous and hopefully the deluge of court cases this has triggered will put them in their place. Forcing people to take a chemical that has some risk attached is not acceptable. As I have said, I am jabbed. My choice. My wife isn't. Her choice. No drama. We plan to travel to Europe, though, and the airlines are saying no jab, no fly. Why the FUCK should an airline dictate who can and can't leave the country? If I sit next to an unjabbed on an airplane, why should I care?
This whole mess is out of control. Panic stricken governments, tyrannical corporations, hysterical "Karens" and ignorant people are causing one of the greatest mismanagements in human history.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 13, 2021, 07:39:17 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 13, 2021, 07:39:17 PM
My state is soon to leave lockdown, but then I'm going to be "locked out" because I refuse to be coerced.
If it was as simple as get it or don't get it, I'd be fine with that. It's not... no employment and no free movement...aka medical apartheid creates a class system here.
It's disgusting and violates local and international laws/treaties.
And our right to choose what we do with our own bodies. Just because I'm jabbed, it does not mean that YOU should be compelled. That is wrong.
I'll fight for anyone's right to abstain.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 13, 2021, 07:41:14 PM
Post by: Frood on October 13, 2021, 07:41:14 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2021, 08:00:34 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2021, 08:00:34 PM
Here is an anti-vaxxer who wishes he got vaccinated.[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J36LJiU4ha0 [/media]
I asked, no videos in this thread. There is no way of knowing if they are real or propaganda.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2021, 08:02:05 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2021, 08:02:05 PM
Considering more than seventy six per cent of Albertans are fully vaccinated, it's amazing that ninety three per cent of people in ICU are invaccinated.Of the 791 non-ICU patients in Alberta, more than 73 per cent are unvaccinated. In the ICU, 93 per cent of patients are unvaccinated or partially vaccinated, Dr. Deena Hinshaw, Alberta's chief medical officer of health, said on Twitter.https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-covid-19-update-1.6210072
This is pretty convincing evidence that vaccines work as treatments. I'm still not convinced they work to control the spread.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 13, 2021, 08:26:13 PM
Post by: cc on October 13, 2021, 08:26:13 PM
This is pretty convincing evidence that vaccines work as treatments. I'm still not convinced they work to control the spread.
I am for sure and the stats bear it out .. it all comes down to simple math
Many times more infected are unvaxxed even though they make up about 18% of the population
I've often posted the infection numbers / 100,000 verifying that but am not inclined to replicate it at this moment - I'll do it again in a day or so with updated results
Infected = spread potential, period .. therefore, the more infected, the more the spread is obvious even if spreadability of all individuals (vacced or not) was equal .. and if that doesn't do it nothing will
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 13, 2021, 08:35:53 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 13, 2021, 08:35:53 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on October 13, 2021, 09:35:00 PM
Post by: Blazor on October 13, 2021, 09:35:00 PM
Brick, spot on my friend!!! Show that ferocity! Like the old days!!!!
Deader, preach about the censorship!!!! Preach it my brother!!!!!
Im tipsy, but I preach the truth lol. Amen lol.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2021, 09:56:34 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2021, 09:56:34 PM
This is pretty convincing evidence that vaccines work as treatments. I'm still not convinced they work to control the spread.
I am for sure and the stats bear it out .. it all comes down to simple math
Many times more infected are unvaxxed even though they make up about 18% of the population
I've often posted the infection numbers / 100,000 verifying that but am not inclined to replicate it at this moment - I'll do it again in a day or so with updated results
Infected = spread potential, period .. therefore, the more infected, the more the spread is obvious even if spreadability of all individuals (vacced or not) was equal .. and if that doesn't do it nothing will
Ya, I saw those numbers you posted. The vaccinated are getting infected at rates a fraction of those unvaccinated. It mirrors the numbers here in Saskatchewan.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 13, 2021, 10:11:44 PM
Post by: cc on October 13, 2021, 10:11:44 PM
This is pretty convincing evidence that vaccines work as treatments. I'm still not convinced they work to control the spread.
I am for sure and the stats bear it out .. it all comes down to simple math
Many times more infected are unvaxxed even though they make up about 18% of the population
I've often posted the infection numbers / 100,000 verifying that but am not inclined to replicate it at this moment - I'll do it again in a day or so with updated results
Infected = spread potential, period .. therefore, the more infected, the more the spread is obvious even if spreadability of all individuals (vacced or not) was equal .. and if that doesn't do it nothing will
Ya, I saw those numbers you posted. The vaccinated are getting infected at rates a fraction of those unvaccinated. It mirrors the numbers here in Saskatchewan.
Yes. The numbers line up everywhere ... other provinces, UK, France .. .and more
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2021, 10:15:59 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2021, 10:15:59 PM
This is pretty convincing evidence that vaccines work as treatments. I'm still not convinced they work to control the spread.
I am for sure and the stats bear it out .. it all comes down to simple math
Many times more infected are unvaxxed even though they make up about 18% of the population
I've often posted the infection numbers / 100,000 verifying that but am not inclined to replicate it at this moment - I'll do it again in a day or so with updated results
Infected = spread potential, period .. therefore, the more infected, the more the spread is obvious even if spreadability of all individuals (vacced or not) was equal .. and if that doesn't do it nothing will
Ya, I saw those numbers you posted. The vaccinated are getting infected at rates a fraction of those unvaccinated. It mirrors the numbers here in Saskatchewan.
Yes. The numbers line up everywhere ... other provinces, UK, France .. .and more
Yes, they are.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on October 13, 2021, 10:59:13 PM
Post by: Blazor on October 13, 2021, 10:59:13 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2021, 11:14:11 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2021, 11:14:11 PM
This is pretty convincing evidence that vaccines work as treatments. I'm still not convinced they work to control the spread.
I am for sure and the stats bear it out .. it all comes down to simple math
Many times more infected are unvaxxed even though they make up about 18% of the population
I've often posted the infection numbers / 100,000 verifying that but am not inclined to replicate it at this moment - I'll do it again in a day or so with updated results
Infected = spread potential, period .. therefore, the more infected, the more the spread is obvious even if spreadability of all individuals (vacced or not) was equal .. and if that doesn't do it nothing will
Ya, I saw those numbers you posted. The vaccinated are getting infected at rates a fraction of those unvaccinated. It mirrors the numbers here in Saskatchewan.
Yes. The numbers line up everywhere ... other provinces, UK, France .. .and more
As Bricktop pointed, Americans tend to buy the anti science conspiracy horseshit about vaccines being lethal more than people in other countries. Singapore is like 85% fully vaxxed. I haven't heard of many Singaporeans falling for Openvaers and fake bitchute vids. They put their faith in real data. Imagine that.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 13, 2021, 11:17:01 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 13, 2021, 11:17:01 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Odinson on October 13, 2021, 11:44:56 PM
Post by: Odinson on October 13, 2021, 11:44:56 PM
One can hardly blame the Americans for being sceptical.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2021, 11:52:08 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2021, 11:52:08 PM
This is pretty convincing evidence that vaccines work as treatments. I'm still not convinced they work to control the spread.
I am for sure and the stats bear it out .. it all comes down to simple math
Many times more infected are unvaxxed even though they make up about 18% of the population
I've often posted the infection numbers / 100,000 verifying that but am not inclined to replicate it at this moment - I'll do it again in a day or so with updated results
Infected = spread potential, period .. therefore, the more infected, the more the spread is obvious even if spreadability of all individuals (vacced or not) was equal .. and if that doesn't do it nothing will
Ya, I saw those numbers you posted. The vaccinated are getting infected at rates a fraction of those unvaccinated. It mirrors the numbers here in Saskatchewan.
Yes. The numbers line up everywhere ... other provinces, UK, France .. .and more
As Bricktop pointed, Americans tend to buy the anti science conspiracy horseshit about vaccines being lethal more than people in other countries. Singapore is like 85% fully vaxxed. I haven't heard of many Singaporeans falling for Openvaers and fake bitchute vids. They put their faith in real data. Imagine that.
There is considerable vaccine hesitancy in Taiwan..
China thwarted Taiwan's efforts to secure adequate vaccines, so Taiwan was forced to create it's own vaccine, Medigen which was really rushed..
Ir was given emergency authrization before it came close to finishing it's third stage trials..
Results so far are good and skepticism is falling......it's similar to Novavax
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 14, 2021, 01:44:24 AM
Post by: Bricktop on October 14, 2021, 01:44:24 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 14, 2021, 02:07:34 AM
Post by: Frood on October 14, 2021, 02:07:34 AM
I am for sure and the stats bear it out .. it all comes down to simple math
Many times more infected are unvaxxed even though they make up about 18% of the population
I've often posted the infection numbers / 100,000 verifying that but am not inclined to replicate it at this moment - I'll do it again in a day or so with updated results
Infected = spread potential, period .. therefore, the more infected, the more the spread is obvious even if spreadability of all individuals (vacced or not) was equal .. and if that doesn't do it nothing will
Ya, I saw those numbers you posted. The vaccinated are getting infected at rates a fraction of those unvaccinated. It mirrors the numbers here in Saskatchewan.
Yes. The numbers line up everywhere ... other provinces, UK, France .. .and more
As Bricktop pointed, Americans tend to buy the anti science conspiracy horseshit about vaccines being lethal more than people in other countries. Singapore is like 85% fully vaxxed. I haven't heard of many Singaporeans falling for Openvaers and fake bitchute vids. They put their faith in real data. Imagine that.
There is considerable vaccine hesitancy in Taiwan..
China thwarted Taiwan's efforts to secure adequate vaccines, so Taiwan was forced to create it's own vaccine, Medigen which was really rushed..
Ir was given emergency authrization before it came close to finishing it's third stage trials..
Results so far are good and skepticism is falling......it's similar to Novavax
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 14, 2021, 09:04:33 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 14, 2021, 09:04:33 AM
Ya, I saw those numbers you posted. The vaccinated are getting infected at rates a fraction of those unvaccinated. It mirrors the numbers here in Saskatchewan.
Yes. The numbers line up everywhere ... other provinces, UK, France .. .and more
As Bricktop pointed, Americans tend to buy the anti science conspiracy horseshit about vaccines being lethal more than people in other countries. Singapore is like 85% fully vaxxed. I haven't heard of many Singaporeans falling for Openvaers and fake bitchute vids. They put their faith in real data. Imagine that.
There is considerable vaccine hesitancy in Taiwan..
China thwarted Taiwan's efforts to secure adequate vaccines, so Taiwan was forced to create it's own vaccine, Medigen which was really rushed..
Ir was given emergency authrization before it came close to finishing it's third stage trials..
Results so far are good and skepticism is falling......it's similar to Novavaxhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI3rlE62R9k
Seoul has been posting about this.....very serious implcations for the global economy.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 14, 2021, 11:10:52 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 14, 2021, 11:10:52 AM
Yes. The numbers line up everywhere ... other provinces, UK, France .. .and more
As Bricktop pointed, Americans tend to buy the anti science conspiracy horseshit about vaccines being lethal more than people in other countries. Singapore is like 85% fully vaxxed. I haven't heard of many Singaporeans falling for Openvaers and fake bitchute vids. They put their faith in real data. Imagine that.
There is considerable vaccine hesitancy in Taiwan..
China thwarted Taiwan's efforts to secure adequate vaccines, so Taiwan was forced to create it's own vaccine, Medigen which was really rushed..
Ir was given emergency authrization before it came close to finishing it's third stage trials..
Results so far are good and skepticism is falling......it's similar to Novavaxhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI3rlE62R9k
Seoul has been posting about this.....very serious implcations for the global economy.
In the Money Sense and Dear China threads. The global economy is struggling to restore supply chains and energy. In our precarious economic state, this could trigger tsunami.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 14, 2021, 12:08:15 PM
Post by: cc on October 14, 2021, 12:08:15 PM
China thwarted Taiwan's efforts to secure adequate vaccines, so Taiwan was forced to create it's own vaccine,
I was not aware of that
I'm curious why they could not simply buy from Pfizer, Moderna etc.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 14, 2021, 02:41:20 PM
Post by: Frood on October 14, 2021, 02:41:20 PM
Yes. The numbers line up everywhere ... other provinces, UK, France .. .and more
As Bricktop pointed, Americans tend to buy the anti science conspiracy horseshit about vaccines being lethal more than people in other countries. Singapore is like 85% fully vaxxed. I haven't heard of many Singaporeans falling for Openvaers and fake bitchute vids. They put their faith in real data. Imagine that.
There is considerable vaccine hesitancy in Taiwan..
China thwarted Taiwan's efforts to secure adequate vaccines, so Taiwan was forced to create it's own vaccine, Medigen which was really rushed..
Ir was given emergency authrization before it came close to finishing it's third stage trials..
Results so far are good and skepticism is falling......it's similar to Novavaxhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI3rlE62R9k
Seoul has been posting about this.....very serious implcations for the global economy.
Watch the full clip for the topic of Taiwan and covid...
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 14, 2021, 03:28:41 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 14, 2021, 03:28:41 PM
Watch the full clip for the topic of Taiwan and covid...
I just did and then I did a search. They play that misleading deaths by vaccinated exceed deaths by unvaccinated scam. That is the favouriste misleading card of anti-vaxxers and it's pure bullshit.
Taiwan is far behind Canada in vaccinating people. They are still concentrating on getting the elderly vaccinated. So what that video is really saying is that more 80 year olds in Taiwan who are vaccinated are dying than unvaccinated 20 year olds. Imagine that. Seniors with cancer and heart disease are still dying from cancer and heart disease even after vaccination.
Now the real news on vaccines in Taiwan. In the first four weeks of the rollout to 17 September, nearly 721,000 Taiwanese took the vaccine. 13 people died after taking it (due to other causes), but the death rate is extremely low and comparable to other vaccines. In total, only 7 per cent of the population is fully vaccinated to date (and 49 per cent got at least one dose).
It's like China is behind the misinformation on Taiwan's homegrown vaccine.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 14, 2021, 03:39:04 PM
Post by: cc on October 14, 2021, 03:39:04 PM
56 have been flown to more southern hospitals as ICUs are full
1 .. yes ONE of the 56 was vacced
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 14, 2021, 06:34:42 PM
Post by: cc on October 14, 2021, 06:34:42 PM
I just did and then I did a search. They play that misleading deaths by vaccinated exceed deaths by unvaccinated scam. That is the favouriste misleading card of anti-vaxxers and it's pure bullshit.
Taiwan is far behind Canada in vaccinating people. They are still concentrating on getting the elderly vaccinated. So what that video is really saying is that more 80 year olds in Taiwan who are vaccinated are dying than unvaccinated 20 year olds. Imagine that. Seniors with cancer and heart disease are still dying from cancer and heart disease even after vaccination.
Now the real news on vaccines in Taiwan. In the first four weeks of the rollout to 17 September, nearly 721,000 Taiwanese took the vaccine. 13 people died after taking it (due to other causes), but the death rate is extremely low and comparable to other vaccines. In total, only 7 per cent of the population is fully vaccinated to date (and 49 per cent got at least one dose).https://international.thenewslens.com/article/156899
It's like China is behind the misinformation on Taiwan's homegrown vaccine.
From Virginia to Australia ... and From Ireland to Taiwan ..
They keep playing the same scams over & over .. because .. try as they will ... they can't find legit goods to support their obsession / cause
Good spot!!!
We wouldn't have to do debunking if these folk just played straight ball in the first place .. or better yet, if they checked out the validity of the stuff they copy / paste from deliberate misinformation sites
Smarten up guys ...
I don't think we need debunk many more - They have clearly shown us they post crap & deliberate distortions
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 14, 2021, 06:38:29 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 14, 2021, 06:38:29 PM
Watch the full clip for the topic of Taiwan and covid...
I just did and then I did a search. They play that misleading deaths by vaccinated exceed deaths by unvaccinated scam. That is the favouriste misleading card of anti-vaxxers and it's pure bullshit.
Taiwan is far behind Canada in vaccinating people. They are still concentrating on getting the elderly vaccinated. So what that video is really saying is that more 80 year olds in Taiwan who are vaccinated are dying than unvaccinated 20 year olds. Imagine that. Seniors with cancer and heart disease are still dying from cancer and heart disease even after vaccination.
Now the real news on vaccines in Taiwan. In the first four weeks of the rollout to 17 September, nearly 721,000 Taiwanese took the vaccine. 13 people died after taking it (due to other causes), but the death rate is extremely low and comparable to other vaccines. In total, only 7 per cent of the population is fully vaccinated to date (and 49 per cent got at least one dose).https://international.thenewslens.com/article/156899
It's like China is behind the misinformation on Taiwan's homegrown vaccine.
There is a lot of opposition to Medigen in Taiwan..
It was given emergency authorization just as third stage testing began..
It's political of course with the KMT using the quick rollout against the DPP president..
And no doubt China is assisting their pan blue allies in Taiwan..
I don't know how Medigen will compare to other vaccines, but we do know it's not deadlier than COVID and it's varients, that's for sure.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 14, 2021, 06:39:08 PM
Post by: Frood on October 14, 2021, 06:39:08 PM
Watch the full clip for the topic of Taiwan and covid...
I just did and then I did a search. They play that misleading deaths by vaccinated exceed deaths by unvaccinated scam. That is the favouriste misleading card of anti-vaxxers and it's pure bullshit.
Taiwan is far behind Canada in vaccinating people. They are still concentrating on getting the elderly vaccinated. So what that video is really saying is that more 80 year olds in Taiwan who are vaccinated are dying than unvaccinated 20 year olds. Imagine that. Seniors with cancer and heart disease are still dying from cancer and heart disease even after vaccination.
Now the real news on vaccines in Taiwan. In the first four weeks of the rollout to 17 September, nearly 721,000 Taiwanese took the vaccine. 13 people died after taking it (due to other causes), but the death rate is extremely low and comparable to other vaccines. In total, only 7 per cent of the population is fully vaccinated to date (and 49 per cent got at least one dose).https://international.thenewslens.com/article/156899
It's like China is behind the misinformation on Taiwan's homegrown vaccine.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 14, 2021, 06:39:58 PM
Post by: Frood on October 14, 2021, 06:39:58 PM
I just did and then I did a search. They play that misleading deaths by vaccinated exceed deaths by unvaccinated scam. That is the favouriste misleading card of anti-vaxxers and it's pure bullshit.
Taiwan is far behind Canada in vaccinating people. They are still concentrating on getting the elderly vaccinated. So what that video is really saying is that more 80 year olds in Taiwan who are vaccinated are dying than unvaccinated 20 year olds. Imagine that. Seniors with cancer and heart disease are still dying from cancer and heart disease even after vaccination.
Now the real news on vaccines in Taiwan. In the first four weeks of the rollout to 17 September, nearly 721,000 Taiwanese took the vaccine. 13 people died after taking it (due to other causes), but the death rate is extremely low and comparable to other vaccines. In total, only 7 per cent of the population is fully vaccinated to date (and 49 per cent got at least one dose).https://international.thenewslens.com/article/156899
It's like China is behind the misinformation on Taiwan's homegrown vaccine.
From Virginia to Australia ... and From Ireland to Taiwan ..
They keep playing the same scams over & over .. because .. try as they will ... they can't find legit goods to support their obsession / cause
Good spot!!!
We wouldn't have to do debunking if these folk just played straight ball in the first place .. or better yet, if they checked out the validity of the stuff they copy / paste from deliberate misinformation sites
Smarten up guys ...don't just be mere parrotsfor your vicious hater masters
I don't think we need debunk many more - They have clearly shown us they post crap & deliberate distortions
Fuckwit!
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 14, 2021, 06:54:11 PM
Post by: cc on October 14, 2021, 06:54:11 PM
The stench of desperation is overwhelming
BC's far north, where we have to fly 56 to ICUs that are not full in the South .. is now under different rules than us in the south
1 of the 56 was vaxxed btw .. one 95 yr old .. as others are in 30s and 40s .. . one 21 died today on the trip
It is a disaster of the unvaxxed in the populated areas of our far North
Also seems our neighbor Alberta is losing people badly right now .. last 2 days have been disastrous .. As numbers have been a bit better lately, most must be from previous high numbers of cases
Recent death per case rate has shot up .. the highest I have ever seen for Alberta which has lead all provinces in that area from the gitgo
Maybe Fash can tell us how vax plays into it
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 14, 2021, 07:02:37 PM
Post by: Frood on October 14, 2021, 07:02:37 PM
Or funny...
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 14, 2021, 08:33:32 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 14, 2021, 08:33:32 PM
Brilliant replies loaded with "verifiable emojis":wink: & name-calling ... Down to that are we?
The stench
BC's far north, where we have to fly 56 to ICUs that are not full in the South .. is now under different rules than us in the south
1 of the 56 was vaxxed btw .. one 95 yr old .. as others are in 30s and 40s .. . one 21 died today on the trip
It is a disaster of the unvaxxed in the populated areas of our far North
Also seems our neighbor Alberta is losing people badly right now .. last 2 days have been disastrous .. As numbers have been a bit better lately, most must be from previous high numbers of cases
Recent death per case rate has shot up .. the highest I have ever seen for Alberta which has lead all provinces in that area from the gitgo
Maybe Fash can tell us how vax plays into it
It's the unvaccinated who are dying of COVID in Alberta.
Similar with ICU admissions, there was not a single death among fully vaccinated Albertans under the age of 40 in the past four months.
That compares to seven deaths among unvaccinated people of the same age.
When it comes to the most vulnerable age group — those 80 and over — there were 61 deaths among the unvaccinated, who represent a tiny proportion of the total population in that age range.
That translates to a rate of about 393 per 100,000.
The rate among fully vaccinated Albertans aged 80-plus, meanwhile, was 42 per 100,000.
Bottom line: Vaccinated versus unvaccinated
For Jenne, the infectious-disease expert with the University of Calgary, the implications of the data are clear.
"Vaccines are dramatically reducing loss of life, hospitalization and intensive-care-unit admissions across the province," he said.
This can be seen, he said, by directly comparing the rates of hospitalization, ICU admission and death among the fully vaccinated and the unvaccinated in each age range.
Those numbers are set out in the table below.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2021, 11:46:18 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2021, 11:46:18 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 15, 2021, 11:54:54 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 15, 2021, 11:54:54 AM
I'm a vax skeptic. I question their efficacy. But, the really brainwashed anti-vaxxers like Blazor believe pharma companies with the aid of every government in the world wants to kill their citizens. Of course they can't support a single shred of their madness. It seems more Americans succumb to this lunacy than any other nationality.
i too am a vaxx skeptic.... i know big pharma is corrupt as hell.... while i doubt that they care if it kills ppl or not, i know that they're deliberately causing other problems that will require further treatments.... i believe they're purposely causing A.D.E. as a means to propagate future revenue.... not to mention cancer and clotting issues....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2021, 12:30:50 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2021, 12:30:50 PM
I'm a vax skeptic. I question their efficacy. But, the really brainwashed anti-vaxxers like Blazor believe pharma companies with the aid of every government in the world wants to kill their citizens. Of course they can't support a single shred of their madness. It seems more Americans succumb to this lunacy than any other nationality.
i too am a vaxx skeptic.... i know big pharma is corrupt as hell.... while i doubt that they care if it kills ppl or not, i know that they're deliberately causing other problems that will require further treatments.... i believe they're purposely causing A.D.E. as a means to propagate future revenue.... not to mention cancer and clotting issues....
Their best chance of future revenue streams is not shoddy products, but the governments of China with the help of people like Dr Fauci.
ADE is when a disease is made worse or more severe in a person who was already exposed to the virus through a previous infection or vaccination compared to people who were never exposed or vaccinated.
Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) has not been identified as a concern related to SARS-CoV-2 infection or following COVID-19 vaccination. Here are reasons indicating why ADE will not be a concern:
First, most people have been infected with other coronaviruses in their lifetime, and ADE has not been identified as a result of these infections.
Second, in human studies, people previously infected with coronavirus were infected with different types of coronavirus, and they did not experience enhanced disease.
Third, experimental animals vaccinated against SARS-CoV-2 did not develop enhanced disease when challenged, or infected, with the virus.
Finally, when people with COVID-19 received plasma containing SARS-CoV-2 antibodies, they did not experience enhanced disease.
For these reasons, ADE is not expected to be a concern for SARS-CoV-2 infections or vaccination.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 15, 2021, 12:34:10 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 15, 2021, 12:34:10 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 15, 2021, 12:38:02 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 15, 2021, 12:38:02 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2021, 12:44:08 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2021, 12:44:08 PM
I'm a vax skeptic. I question their efficacy. But, the really brainwashed anti-vaxxers like Blazor believe pharma companies with the aid of every government in the world wants to kill their citizens. Of course they can't support a single shred of their madness. It seems more Americans succumb to this lunacy than any other nationality.
i too am a vaxx skeptic.... i know big pharma is corrupt as hell.... while i doubt that they care if it kills ppl or not, i know that they're deliberately causing other problems that will require further treatments.
Spoken like a true socialist.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2021, 12:47:49 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2021, 12:47:49 PM
by the way - "for these reasons, ADE is not EXPECTED to be a concern" means - SURPRISE, DUMBASS....:laugh:
Did you read it?
You can get it through natural infection too..
The best way to determine what will happen in the future is to look at what has happened in the past with previous coronaviruses..
There is no evidence to support what you're saying.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 15, 2021, 12:48:53 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 15, 2021, 12:48:53 PM
I'm a vax skeptic. I question their efficacy. But, the really brainwashed anti-vaxxers like Blazor believe pharma companies with the aid of every government in the world wants to kill their citizens. Of course they can't support a single shred of their madness. It seems more Americans succumb to this lunacy than any other nationality.
i too am a vaxx skeptic.... i know big pharma is corrupt as hell.... while i doubt that they care if it kills ppl or not, i know that they're deliberately causing other problems that will require further treatments.
Spoken like a true socialist.
i'm not a socialist.... i'm a well-armed realist who doesn't give a shit what they do....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 15, 2021, 12:52:31 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 15, 2021, 12:52:31 PM
by the way - "for these reasons, ADE is not EXPECTED to be a concern" means - SURPRISE, DUMBASS....:laugh:
Did you read it?
You can get it through natural infection too..
The best way to determine what will happen in the future is to look at what has happened in the past with previous coronaviruses..
There is no evidence to support what you're saying.
believe whatever you choose, little lady.... just keep up with your boosters and whatnot....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2021, 12:56:44 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2021, 12:56:44 PM
by the way - "for these reasons, ADE is not EXPECTED to be a concern" means - SURPRISE, DUMBASS....:laugh:
Did you read it?
You can get it through natural infection too..
The best way to determine what will happen in the future is to look at what has happened in the past with previous coronaviruses..
There is no evidence to support what you're saying.
believe whatever you choose, little lady.... just keep up with your boosters and whatnot....:laugh:
As long as people don't get immunity, COVID will contunue to mutate just like influenza which means annual vaccinations..
The ball is in the anti-vaxxers court.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 15, 2021, 12:58:55 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 15, 2021, 12:58:55 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2021, 01:32:14 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2021, 01:32:14 PM
nah.... we're not going anywhere.... i dunno how to wake yall up though....
if you are saying vaccines are more dangerous than COVID itself, back it up with data. CC and Fash have supported their arguments. If this fringe American position that vaccines are killers were to have any credibility it needs to be supported with real data like cc and Fash are doing. That's why I started this thread.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2021, 01:49:12 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2021, 01:49:12 PM
New Study Reveals Covid Vaccine Does Not Cause Female Sterility
Vaccines are highly unlikely to cause side effects long after getting the shot
Science shows that even the most serious side effects for any vaccine, including COVID-19, occur within just a few weeks.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 15, 2021, 01:50:05 PM
Post by: cc on October 15, 2021, 01:50:05 PM
As long as people don't get immunity, COVID will continue to mutate just like influenza which means annual vaccinations..
The ball is in the anti-vaxxers court.
Exactly. Flu shot is offered annually because of mutations / variants
Whatever could be the problem with regular repeats annually or twice a year?
There is little doubt now that it will ultimately be combined with flu shots anyhowzers
This replies to and applies to the lame scare tactic "what is your number ... " thread also
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 15, 2021, 01:57:21 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 15, 2021, 01:57:21 PM
nah.... we're not going anywhere.... i dunno how to wake yall up though....
if you are saying vaccines are more dangerous than COVID itself, back it up with data. CC and Fash have supported their arguments. If this fringe American position that vaccines are killers were to have any credibility it needs to be supported with real data like cc and Fash are doing. That's why I started this thread.
you seem like a good little fella and i could probably talk to you about a variety of subjects.... but if you can't see the narrative-driven and purposely created confusion surrounding convoluted protocols, hyper-inflated numbers, censoring doctors and scientists, changing definitions of previously established words and the constant walking back and intentionally misleading announcements then i can't help ya.... if you want data, i dunno what to tell ya.... i say you need to do what you think is best.... if you think the vaccine is a good idea, get it.... if you think their might be a problem, don't get it.... ultimately, its you that will pay for your own decision and so it needs to be you who decides what to do.... if you think they're being upfront about anything then you're not paying attention....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2021, 03:18:43 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2021, 03:18:43 PM
nah.... we're not going anywhere.... i dunno how to wake yall up though....
if you are saying vaccines are more dangerous than COVID itself, back it up with data. CC and Fash have supported their arguments. If this fringe American position that vaccines are killers were to have any credibility it needs to be supported with real data like cc and Fash are doing. That's why I started this thread.
you seem like a good little fella and i could probably talk to you about a variety of subjects.... but if you can't see the narrative-driven and purposely created confusion surrounding convoluted protocols, hyper-inflated numbers, censoring doctors and scientists, changing definitions of previously established words and the constant walking back and intentionally misleading announcements then i can't help ya.... if you want data, i dunno what to tell ya.... i say you need to do what you think is best.... if you think the vaccine is a good idea, get it.... if you think their might be a problem, don't get it.... ultimately, its you that will pay for your own decision and so it needs to be you who decides what to do.... if you think they're being upfront about anything then you're not paying attention....
Since this was released from a lab in Wuhan I have been vocal in my opposition to the changing protocals, guidleines, lockdowns, moving goalposts and of course the economic carnage caused by the socialist response. And I'm well aware of the dishonesty employed by Dem governors Whitmer, Cuomo and Newsom to escape being held accountable and to shift the blame to the president in order to remove him from office. That's America, I get it.
But, we have vaccines and treatments now. I'm not surprised they are being used for political purposes, but frankly, and no offense, that's your problem that your country turns everything into a three ring circus. The world wants and needs these tools to move to an endemic from a pandemic. We can argue their efficacy and how long immunity lasts, but there is no evidence they are unsafe. That is just American political theatre at it's worst.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 15, 2021, 03:37:23 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 15, 2021, 03:37:23 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2021, 04:18:27 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2021, 04:18:27 PM
pfizer is whats known as a 'habitual offender' when it comes to illegal activity and unethical business practices.... among their list of many offenses are suppression of unfavorable test results and bribery/coercion of health officials.... if you think for a second they care about your health and safety, you need therapy.... its my firm belief that this is a haphazardly concocted brew of injury thats designed to cause you a grocery list of medical problems in both the near and distant future.... its not political for me because i don't believe in that 'two party' nonsense.... they are ALL satanic pedophiles and they use that democrat/republican mumbo-jumbo to herd yall like sheep.... i have read countless white papers from NEJOM, BMJ, Nature and PubMed and i have come to the conclusion that yalls future is NOT bright.... i watch very few videos except The Corbet Report and The Last American Vagabond.... i don't bother with conspiracy videos and dumbass memes because i know all the REAL information won't be available for 2 or 3 years (if ever) and its a waste of time anyway.... everyone who wants a vaxx has gotten one.... and everyone left is willing to kill and die to avoid it.... now we wait....
Perhaps at the American level, but that is not the case internatonally..
They can't buy politicians in every country..
And this gets at the heart of the problem that Seoul is getting at..
The relationship between some big companies and the federal government is so corrupt, it affects the trustworthiness of core services they provide like medicines, the media, and health care providers..
I look at the data, not their history of buying American politicians.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 15, 2021, 04:27:56 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 15, 2021, 04:27:56 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 15, 2021, 04:41:46 PM
Post by: cc on October 15, 2021, 04:41:46 PM
That's fine, but as no one can know anything, stop telling us what to do .. cause by your words you also can know nothing
2020 election was the 'safest and fraud-free' election ever conductedQuote
I NEVER heard that .. . in fact all I heard was the opposite .. and knew it was a corrupted from the gitgo ... so that's not a valid example
its all propaganda and none of it is above mistrustQuote
Maybe so .. but that doesn't just mean others know nothing .. . it means you also can know nothing for certain
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 15, 2021, 04:47:49 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 15, 2021, 04:47:49 PM
You make everything ... "a no win" which is also saying you don't know any facts
That's fine, but as no one can know anything, stop telling us what to do .. cause by your words you also can know nothing
who is telling you what to do? because i know damn well thats not directed at me.... i've stated my concerns and the reasons i'm not taking it BUT i have been more than clear that others should do what they think is best.... i think everyone should have that privilege of what they allow or not allow into their body.... its yall motherfuckers that seem to disagree on THAT point....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 15, 2021, 04:54:21 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 15, 2021, 04:54:21 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 15, 2021, 06:35:51 PM
Post by: cc on October 15, 2021, 06:35:51 PM
No one in right mind ever trusted left wing news outlets .. not even lefties who often like what they say for propaganda but don't believe it
moot what they say as we all knew it was a loaded election all along
Going over all outlets, one can find anything they want said .. doesn't mean it's believed beyond a few losers
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 15, 2021, 06:43:42 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 15, 2021, 06:43:42 PM
Take your link, for example. I am sure you provided it in good faith. But that is the problem. In order to support your point of view you put your faith in journalists, as we have done for decades. In the past, this may have been a reasonable course; journalists were generally neutral in their reporting and didn't push agendas.
All that has changed.
For example, take the story you cite. "2020 election "most secure in history," security officials say, BY STEFAN BECKET, MELISSA QUINN, GRACE SEGERS AND CAROLINE LINTON"
Who are these people? Why did they and their editor choose to write and publish the story? Why did it take 4 journalists to prepare, and why are 3 of the 4 female and likely to be anti-Trump? How do we know that they chose an equanamous approach to the story so that all potential perspectives are taken into account?
The truth is we cannot answer those crucial questions, but so many will put faith in the "facts" they publish. This is killing us. The mass media is not a friend of freedom of speech. It has weaponised it.
Being a journalist is another way of saying you'll never have to say "I was wrong".
Having no faith in journalism becomes problematic, because the search for truth can be onerous, time consuming and challenging. This is how journalists get away with lying; no-one can prove otherwise.
I have long since ceased to read newspapers and watch mainstream news programs. I will do my own thinking, draw my own conclusions and state my own opinions as I see fit.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 15, 2021, 06:49:23 PM
Post by: cc on October 15, 2021, 06:49:23 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 15, 2021, 06:50:24 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 15, 2021, 06:50:24 PM
Wait a minute - You said "i remember when the 2020 election was the 'safest and fraud-free' election ever conducted" .. implying everyone believed it
No one in right mind ever trusted left wing news outlets .. not even lefties who often like what they say for propaganda but don't believe it
moot what they say as we all knew it was a loaded election all along
nobody 'believed' it.... apart from some of biden voters (which were't actually biden voters. they anything but trump voters), i mean.... the point is that anything that disagrees with that narrative was/is removed and ppl were/are banned for it.... same as the lab leak theory.... and to a lesser extent, hunters laptop.... the election is not an issue though.... it was fake. and it was designed to be fake.... it set the stage to no longer allow ppl to question the validity of elections and also enables them to shrug off and remove any questions of election integrity....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 15, 2021, 06:59:18 PM
Post by: cc on October 15, 2021, 06:59:18 PM
the election is not an issue though.... it was fake. and it was designed to be fake.... it set the stage to no longer allow ppl to question the validity of elections and also enables them to shrug off and remove any questions of election integrity....Quote
Agree 100
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 15, 2021, 07:08:03 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 15, 2021, 07:08:03 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2021, 07:09:52 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2021, 07:09:52 PM
pfizer is whats known as a 'habitual offender' when it comes to illegal activity and unethical business practices.... among their list of many offenses are suppression of unfavorable test results and bribery/coercion of health officials.... if you think for a second they care about your health and safety, you need therapy.... its my firm belief that this is a haphazardly concocted brew of injury thats designed to cause you a grocery list of medical problems in both the near and distant future.... its not political for me because i don't believe in that 'two party' nonsense.... they are ALL satanic pedophiles and they use that democrat/republican mumbo-jumbo to herd yall like sheep.... i have read countless white papers from NEJOM, BMJ, Nature and PubMed and i have come to the conclusion that yalls future is NOT bright.... i watch very few videos except The Corbet Report and The Last American Vagabond.... i don't bother with conspiracy videos and dumbass memes because i know all the REAL information won't be available for 2 or 3 years (if ever) and its a waste of time anyway.... everyone who wants a vaxx has gotten one.... and everyone left is willing to kill and die to avoid it.... now we wait....
Perhaps at the American level, but that is not the case internatonally..
They can't buy politicians in every country..
And this gets at the heart of the problem that Seoul is getting at..
The relationship between some big companies and the federal government is so corrupt, it affects the trustworthiness of core services they provide like medicines, the media, and health care providers..
I look at the data, not their history of buying American politicians.
Free markets have been usurped by crony capitalism South of the border. It's alleged that big corporations have taken over the government, but in the US, the opposite is true. Hence, woke capitalism. It's true in China too. But, that does not mean the current COVID vaccines and the hundreds of candidates around the world are anything less than safe. It's like saying that since Nigerian oil is produced under conditions that show little regard for the environment or the people who extract it, it's worse for the environment when it's refined into fuels and plastics.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2021, 08:09:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2021, 08:09:00 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 15, 2021, 08:12:15 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 15, 2021, 08:12:15 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2021, 11:10:41 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2021, 11:10:41 PM
I see we are getting down to the nitty gritty here. Anti vaxxers aint actually opposed to what's in COVID vaccines. They are opposed to the governments, corrupt bureaucracies and big companies behind them. I would be too if I was an American.
That's no excuse not to get vaccinated.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 16, 2021, 01:23:21 AM
Post by: Bricktop on October 16, 2021, 01:23:21 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2021, 01:31:32 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2021, 01:31:32 AM
Whilst I am vaccinated, and support people taking care of their health...what is the excuse to GET vaccinated?
Take a look at some of what Fash and CC have posted.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 16, 2021, 04:07:50 AM
Post by: Frood on October 16, 2021, 04:07:50 AM
I see we are getting down to the nitty gritty here. Anti vaxxers aint actually opposed to what's in COVID vaccines. They are opposed to the governments, corrupt bureaucracies and big companies behind them. I would be too if I was an American.
That's no excuse not to get vaccinated.
Excuses not required.
My body my choice is the supreme law of the land. If you don't like it, you can go fuck yourself.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2021, 10:44:05 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2021, 10:44:05 AM
I see we are getting down to the nitty gritty here. Anti vaxxers aint actually opposed to what's in COVID vaccines. They are opposed to the governments, corrupt bureaucracies and big companies behind them. I would be too if I was an American.
That's no excuse not to get vaccinated.
Excuses not required.
My body my choice is the supreme law of the land. If you don't like it, you can go fuck yourself.:thumbup:
That is probably the best argument put forward yet not to get vaccinated.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2021, 11:36:55 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2021, 11:36:55 AM
I see we are getting down to the nitty gritty here. Anti vaxxers aint actually opposed to what's in COVID vaccines. They are opposed to the governments, corrupt bureaucracies and big companies behind them. I would be too if I was an American.
That's no excuse not to get vaccinated.
Excuses not required.
My body my choice is the supreme law of the land. If you don't like it, you can go fuck yourself.:thumbup:
That is probably the best argument put forward yet not to get vaccinated.
There's recovered from infection. Like the seasonal flu vaccine, a lot of people still catch what it's supposed to protect against.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 16, 2021, 11:53:35 AM
Post by: cc on October 16, 2021, 11:53:35 AM
First Flu vaccine was never billed as "supposed to" protect 100%
There's recovered from infection. Like the seasonal flu vaccine, a lot of people still catch what it's supposed to protect against.
For decades, Flu vaccine was advertised as 50% "prevention" at best - but for those infected symptoms are much reduced was the main reason people used it
Dunno why anti vaxxers attempt & get away with pointing out "some" vaxxed get infected as an argument
Well guess what!!! Virus vax is considerably higher protection than flu one (albeit not 100% + GREATLY reduces symptoms if infected)
So how is that an argument at all? ... Like DUH!!!
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2021, 11:57:56 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2021, 11:57:56 AM
There's recovered from infection. Like the seasonal flu vaccine, a lot of people still catch what it's supposed to protect against.
For decades, Flu vaccine was advertised as 50% "prevention" at best - but for those infected symptoms are much reduced was the main selling point
Well guess what!!! Virus vax is considerably higher protection than flu one (albeit not 100% + GREATLY reduces symptoms if infected)
Like DUH!!!
The treatment value of vaccines cannot be denied. The data that you and Fash have posted proves that.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 16, 2021, 12:02:03 PM
Post by: cc on October 16, 2021, 12:02:03 PM
The comparison (
So their argument that it's not 100% prevention falls flat on it's ass .. especially as the flu one in use for years has always been a bonus yet does somewhat poorer at prevention
You see, not only are reduction values high, but numbers of infections are also many times more for unvaxxed getting infected .
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2021, 12:23:54 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2021, 12:23:54 PM
That's a given now that data has had time to give people a view at both it's prevention and symptom reduction values.
The comparison (for prevention & for severity reduction between vaxxed and not vaxed , especially when presented as a % of population or as 1 / 100,000 people number are dramatic
So their argument that it's not 100% prevention falls flat on it's ass .. especially as the flu one in use for years has always been a bonus yet does somewhat poorer at prevention
The vaccines work very well against getting COVID among people under fifty..
It still helps that way with senior citizens and immunocompromised, but it's the way that it protects against serious symptoms that makes them lifesavers.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 16, 2021, 12:26:57 PM
Post by: cc on October 16, 2021, 12:26:57 PM
Not vaccinated: 297.3
Partially vaccinated: 90.1
Fully vaccinated: 35.1
It's "prevention" value is very high as seen above
BC govt is always answerable to the people - I can't speak for Virginia or swamp states as I don't know their ethics levels
Damn!! Can't find a gaudy grainy meme to prove it in a manner acceptable to some
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2021, 12:39:53 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2021, 12:39:53 PM
Casesper 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Sept. 27-Oct. 3)
Not vaccinated: 297.3
Partially vaccinated: 90.1
Fully vaccinated: 35.1https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2021HLTH0060-001918
It's "prevention" value is very high as seen above
BC govt is always answerable to the people - I can't speak for Virginia or swamp states as I don't know their ethics levels
That includes all age groups of course..
I read in Alberta that the risk of catching COVID increase with age and health factors......which is why we have boosters for people in those demographics.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 16, 2021, 12:52:25 PM
Post by: cc on October 16, 2021, 12:52:25 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2021, 01:20:13 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2021, 01:20:13 PM
That is true . . Age and condition affect protection to some degree ... also, maybe not as much as it appears taking into account that the time older people last had a shot is much longer ago than for younger people
That's a good point cc.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 16, 2021, 04:07:42 PM
Post by: cc on October 16, 2021, 04:07:42 PM
We won't really know for a cpl more months after boosters give us the true comparison
BTW - I'm really peed off at BC - they were slow to start Care Home, promised a start 2 weeks ago & are still not getting their butts in gear to any extent
Strange after the successful flying start and great success in January
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2021, 04:13:03 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2021, 04:13:03 PM
Yes, that skews the numbers maybe a lot
We won't really know for a cpl more months after boosters give us the true comparison
BTW - I'm really peed off at BC - they were slow to start Care Home, promised a start 2 weeks ago & are still not getting their butts in gear to any extent
Strange after the successful flying start and great success in January
Every province has been slow with boosters.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 16, 2021, 05:53:36 PM
Post by: cc on October 16, 2021, 05:53:36 PM
I'm starting to get uptight about taking our family friend from care home out for lunch .. a major treat for her about 3 times / week
Damn them
That said, listening to our in house Ex Spirts .. she will prolly fall down dead within seconds of her 3rd shot
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 16, 2021, 06:41:36 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 16, 2021, 06:41:36 PM
The treatment value of vaccines cannot be denied. The data that you and Fash have posted proves that.
But the point of the anti-vaxxers is not that the efficacy of the treatment is effective or not, but that they should not be compelled to be vaccinated.
As a member of the high risk category, I make my choice to be safe.
As a 40 something with minimal risk, I would be less enthusiastic about having a drug forced upon me.
In my view, the government's zeal in injecting every citizen with these chemicals has little to do with concern for the welfare of its citizens and everything to do with preventing a surge of demand for its health services. A demand it cannot, in all likelihood, fulfil.
The "vaccine" does not eliminate the virus, nor stop its transmission. It mitigates symptoms. And only in the most vulnerable. The symptoms are hardly noticed in people outside of the high risk group.
Once again, a government policy that is poorly explained and badly implemented is smashing into a fragile society already splintered by social upheaval.
The cumulative effect of governments forcing unwanted and unnecessary impositions on society is adding to a pressure that cannot be sustained.
The constant berating by governments of the way we live our lives (we use too much fossil fuel, we don't treat people fairly, we spread disease, we destroy the planet) is applying stresses that will have serious consequences sooner rather than later.
To those who want the jab, get the jab.
To those who don't, abstain.
Just shut up arguing with those who don't conform to your beliefs.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 16, 2021, 07:08:37 PM
Post by: cc on October 16, 2021, 07:08:37 PM
That said, No one here I have seen I know is telling others to vax
As to
is not well put. it leaves the impression that it does not affect "infection possibilities"The "vaccine" does not eliminate the virus, nor stop its transmission. It mitigates symptomsQuote
Right, "it does not
Every in depth report indicates about 8 X the possibility of being infected for the unvacced as shown by many per 1000,000 people stats (same for UK, France etc etc)
In fact, I'm getting tired of posting regular comparisons of per 1000,000 people stats from several of our provinces & countries that clearly demonstrate the rate as approx. 8 / 1 different odds
That's pretty good odds improvement
In fact, all show far more unvaxxed infected weekly than vaxxed - while that many more are from only about 18% of the total population. Not sure what could be more convincing that it greatly decreases infection itself ... let alone even greater mitigates symptoms by a considerably wider margin
BC Health Dept. - cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Sept. 27-Oct. 3)
Not vaccinated: 297.3
Fully vaccinated: 35.1
8.5 / 1 ... similar week before, similar week after , similar ...................................................
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 16, 2021, 09:32:56 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 16, 2021, 09:32:56 PM
We are clearly not out of the woods by a long way.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 16, 2021, 09:46:37 PM
Post by: cc on October 16, 2021, 09:46:37 PM
I don't dispute your position...although I would comment that the number of infections will inevitably decrease when vaccinated people are NOT AWARE they have the virus. This is speculation, I admit, but it concerns me greatly that this vaccine conceals the fact that you may be an unwitting carrier.
Good point. Prolly many such slip through .. unknowing spreaders
Further, many who figure they have mild case don't get tested I would guess
We are clearly not out of the woods by a long way.
Agree. We absolutely are not out of the woods by a long way.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2021, 01:02:12 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2021, 01:02:12 PM
I don't dispute your position...although I would comment that the number of infections will inevitably decrease when vaccinated people are NOT AWARE they have the virus. This is speculation, I admit, but it concerns me greatly that this vaccine conceals the fact that you may be an unwitting carrier.
We are clearly not out of the woods by a long way.
True and truer.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2021, 01:51:41 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2021, 01:51:41 PM
The treatment value of vaccines cannot be denied. The data that you and Fash have posted proves that.
But the point of the anti-vaxxers is not that the efficacy of the treatment is effective or not, but that they should not be compelled to be vaccinated.
As a member of the high risk category, I make my choice to be safe.
As a 40 something with minimal risk, I would be less enthusiastic about having a drug forced upon me.
In my view, the government's zeal in injecting every citizen with these chemicals has little to do with concern for the welfare of its citizens and everything to do with preventing a surge of demand for its health services. A demand it cannot, in all likelihood, fulfil.
The "vaccine" does not eliminate the virus, nor stop its transmission. It mitigates symptoms. And only in the most vulnerable. The symptoms are hardly noticed in people outside of the high risk group.
Once again, a government policy that is poorly explained and badly implemented is smashing into a fragile society already splintered by social upheaval.
The cumulative effect of governments forcing unwanted and unnecessary impositions on society is adding to a pressure that cannot be sustained.
The constant berating by governments of the way we live our lives (we use too much fossil fuel, we don't treat people fairly, we spread disease, we destroy the planet) is applying stresses that will have serious consequences sooner rather than later.
To those who want the jab, get the jab.
To those who don't, abstain.
Just shut up arguing with those who don't conform to your beliefs.
Vaccine mandates are a separate issue. SB says they are not legal in Canada. My employer is treading carefully on this.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2021, 02:15:13 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2021, 02:15:13 PM
The treatment value of vaccines cannot be denied. The data that you and Fash have posted proves that.
But the point of the anti-vaxxers is not that the efficacy of the treatment is effective or not, but that they should not be compelled to be vaccinated.
As a member of the high risk category, I make my choice to be safe.
As a 40 something with minimal risk, I would be less enthusiastic about having a drug forced upon me.
In my view, the government's zeal in injecting every citizen with these chemicals has little to do with concern for the welfare of its citizens and everything to do with preventing a surge of demand for its health services. A demand it cannot, in all likelihood, fulfil.
The "vaccine" does not eliminate the virus, nor stop its transmission. It mitigates symptoms. And only in the most vulnerable. The symptoms are hardly noticed in people outside of the high risk group.
Once again, a government policy that is poorly explained and badly implemented is smashing into a fragile society already splintered by social upheaval.
The cumulative effect of governments forcing unwanted and unnecessary impositions on society is adding to a pressure that cannot be sustained.
The constant berating by governments of the way we live our lives (we use too much fossil fuel, we don't treat people fairly, we spread disease, we destroy the planet) is applying stresses that will have serious consequences sooner rather than later.
To those who want the jab, get the jab.
To those who don't, abstain.
Just shut up arguing with those who don't conform to your beliefs.
Vaccine mandates are a separate issue. SB says they are not legal in Canada. My employer is treading carefully on this.
Canadian companies(including municipal, provincial, and federal civil services) that terminate employees are in violation of Section 7 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Vaccine mandates in Canada are merely suggestions.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2021, 02:19:30 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2021, 02:19:30 PM
The treatment value of vaccines cannot be denied. The data that you and Fash have posted proves that.
But the point of the anti-vaxxers is not that the efficacy of the treatment is effective or not, but that they should not be compelled to be vaccinated.
As a member of the high risk category, I make my choice to be safe.
As a 40 something with minimal risk, I would be less enthusiastic about having a drug forced upon me.
In my view, the government's zeal in injecting every citizen with these chemicals has little to do with concern for the welfare of its citizens and everything to do with preventing a surge of demand for its health services. A demand it cannot, in all likelihood, fulfil.
The "vaccine" does not eliminate the virus, nor stop its transmission. It mitigates symptoms. And only in the most vulnerable. The symptoms are hardly noticed in people outside of the high risk group.
Once again, a government policy that is poorly explained and badly implemented is smashing into a fragile society already splintered by social upheaval.
The cumulative effect of governments forcing unwanted and unnecessary impositions on society is adding to a pressure that cannot be sustained.
The constant berating by governments of the way we live our lives (we use too much fossil fuel, we don't treat people fairly, we spread disease, we destroy the planet) is applying stresses that will have serious consequences sooner rather than later.
To those who want the jab, get the jab.
To those who don't, abstain.
Just shut up arguing with those who don't conform to your beliefs.
Vaccine mandates are a separate issue. SB says they are not legal in Canada. My employer is treading carefully on this.
Canadian companies(including municipal, provincial, and federal civil services) that terminate employees are in violation of Section 7 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Vaccine mandates in Canada are merely suggestions.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 17, 2021, 05:38:42 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 17, 2021, 05:38:42 PM
All employers who were imposing this unlawful demand on their staff will now have to pull their heads in. Idiots.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2021, 05:43:16 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2021, 05:43:16 PM
Our PM has succumbed to public pressure and declared that compulsory vaccinations is not the Government's policy.
All employers who were imposing this unlawful demand on their staff will now have to pull their heads in. Idiots.
We have a vaccine mandate where I work......we have less than four weeks to get fully vaccinated..
I don't know how if there will be dismissals for non compliance.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2021, 05:56:05 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2021, 05:56:05 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on October 17, 2021, 07:44:38 PM
Post by: Blazor on October 17, 2021, 07:44:38 PM
"Studies show" that if employees walk out in mass, employers say "oh Im sorry, please come back". FACT!!!!
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 17, 2021, 07:55:04 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 17, 2021, 07:55:04 PM
I am 100 percent in favour of vaccine mandates. Employers have a duty to provide safe workplaces.
So, we have an intersection between employer's duty of care and employees right to decide what chemicals are injected into their body.
In my view, if the employer makes the vaccine available to all staff and some reject the injection, the employer has discharged its responsibility and is indemnified from legal action. Being injected is not the same is being compelled to wear a hard hat and hi-vis vest. They have no potentially problematic side effects.
Of greater concern is that if we allow employers to dictate THIS vaccine, the precedent is set to demand other vaccinations or impositions on the person of their staff. Flu. Chicken Pox. Rubella.
Employers are NOT qualified to demand medication of their staff.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2021, 07:58:09 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2021, 07:58:09 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2021, 08:10:33 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2021, 08:10:33 PM
To my knowledge, major Canadian employers aren't threatening employees with dismissal if they don't comply with so -called vaccine mandates.
I'll do a search.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 17, 2021, 08:15:04 PM
Post by: Frood on October 17, 2021, 08:15:04 PM
I am 100 percent in favour of vaccine mandates. Employers have a duty to provide safe workplaces.
I'm 100 percent in favour of a you getting anally raped by a donkey mandate. You need to be tied up and violated until the stupid is fucked out of your gourd and arse...
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 17, 2021, 08:57:53 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 17, 2021, 08:57:53 PM
Is that the best you can offer a civil exchange of views?
Fuxake, boy. Did you ever leave Brawl Hall?
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2021, 09:08:08 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2021, 09:08:08 PM
It doesn't clear up much.
Federal and provincial governments, private businesses as well as Canada's biggest banks have in recent weeks announced plans to implement mandatory vaccination policies for many of their returning staff.
These vaccine mandates require their employees to be vaccinated against COVID-19. But do employers have the right to impose such mandates? What if employees refuse?
That will likely depend on the particular circumstances that an employer and employee find themselves in, says Toronto-based employment lawyer Alex Lucifero. And the law will differ, he says, based upon a number of factors — for example, the particular industry, or whether the employees are unionized.
What's important for people to understand, says constitutional expert Wayne MacKay, professor emeritus of law at Dalhousie University, is that the Charter of Rights and Freedoms only applies to government action. That means, when it comes to vaccine mandates, the charter only applies for government workers refusing such a decree.
"It doesn't apply to private businesses or [a] private individual's actions," he said. "Statute law does, privacy laws, human rights codes, those kinds of things. But only government action is restricted by the charter."
What charter rights might apply to vaccine mandates?
There are potentially at least three sections of the charter that could be used by a government employee to challenge a vaccine mandate, including Section 7 — the right to life, liberty and security of the person.
That could be cited to challenge "a policy that seems to coerce people into getting vaccinated," wrote University of B.C. law professor Debra Parkes and University of Ottawa law professor Carissima Mathen in a recent editorial.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 17, 2021, 09:11:57 PM
Post by: Frood on October 17, 2021, 09:11:57 PM
WTF is that??
Is that the best you can offer a civil exchange of views?
Fuxake, boy. Did you ever leave Brawl Hall?
I'm not obligated to treat stupid authoritarian fuck sticks with dignity or respect.
I'd rather snuff them out with a pillow.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2021, 09:17:34 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2021, 09:17:34 PM
I found this from the CBC..
It doesn't clear up much.Companies are implementing vaccine mandates. Can employees reject them?
Federal and provincial governments, private businesses as well as Canada's biggest banks have in recent weeks announced plans to implement mandatory vaccination policies for many of their returning staff.
These vaccine mandates require their employees to be vaccinated against COVID-19. But do employers have the right to impose such mandates? What if employees refuse?
That will likely depend on the particular circumstances that an employer and employee find themselves in, says Toronto-based employment lawyer Alex Lucifero. And the law will differ, he says, based upon a number of factors — for example, the particular industry, or whether the employees are unionized.
What's important for people to understand, says constitutional expert Wayne MacKay, professor emeritus of law at Dalhousie University, is that the Charter of Rights and Freedoms only applies to government action. That means, when it comes to vaccine mandates, the charter only applies for government workers refusing such a decree.
"It doesn't apply to private businesses or [a] private individual's actions," he said. "Statute law does, privacy laws, human rights codes, those kinds of things. But only government action is restricted by the charter."
What charter rights might apply to vaccine mandates?
There are potentially at least three sections of the charter that could be used by a government employee to challenge a vaccine mandate, including Section 7 — the right to life, liberty and security of the person.
That could be cited to challenge "a policy that seems to coerce people into getting vaccinated," wrote University of B.C. law professor Debra Parkes and University of Ottawa law professor Carissima Mathen in a recent editorial.https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/vaccination-mandates-employees-rights-1.6142584
The CBC will only quote lawyers who support vaccine mandates.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2021, 10:19:24 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2021, 10:19:24 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 17, 2021, 10:58:27 PM
Post by: cc on October 17, 2021, 10:58:27 PM
I am 100 percent in favour of vaccine mandates. Employers have a duty to provide safe workplaces.
I'm 100 percent in favour of a you getting .----------- a donkey mandate. You need to be tied up and violated until the stupid is f-----------------------..
Your homoerotic underpinning aside, that is not acceptable behavior
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2021, 11:09:28 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2021, 11:09:28 PM
And there is this.In Canada, an employer can't automatically impose a vaccine mandate for non-unionized employees. Any policy that attempts to force employees to fully vaccinate against COVID-19 may be illegal due to discrimination based on perceived disability, and a violation of their human rights.https://stlawyers.ca/coronavirus-knowledge-centre/employer-mandatory-vaccinations/
If there is a wave of terminations, the courts will be tied up for years.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 18, 2021, 12:03:15 AM
Post by: Bricktop on October 18, 2021, 12:03:15 AM
WTF is that??
Is that the best you can offer a civil exchange of views?
Fuxake, boy. Did you ever leave Brawl Hall?
I'm not obligated to treat stupid authoritarian fuck sticks with dignity or respect.
I'd rather snuff them out with a pillow.
Man, you're a real asset to intelligent discourse, aintcha.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2021, 01:14:55 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2021, 01:14:55 AM
And there is this.In Canada, an employer can't automatically impose a vaccine mandate for non-unionized employees. Any policy that attempts to force employees to fully vaccinate against COVID-19 may be illegal due to discrimination based on perceived disability, and a violation of their human rights.https://stlawyers.ca/coronavirus-knowledge-centre/employer-mandatory-vaccinations/
If there is a wave of terminations, the courts will be tied up for years.
We'll see if there are mass terminations.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2021, 01:32:17 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2021, 01:32:17 AM
And there is this.In Canada, an employer can't automatically impose a vaccine mandate for non-unionized employees. Any policy that attempts to force employees to fully vaccinate against COVID-19 may be illegal due to discrimination based on perceived disability, and a violation of their human rights.https://stlawyers.ca/coronavirus-knowledge-centre/employer-mandatory-vaccinations/
If there is a wave of terminations, the courts will be tied up for years.
We'll see if there are mass terminations.
I guess we will find out more next month. That seems to be the deadline for a lot of companies.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 18, 2021, 02:39:02 AM
Post by: Frood on October 18, 2021, 02:39:02 AM
WTF is that??
Is that the best you can offer a civil exchange of views?
Fuxake, boy. Did you ever leave Brawl Hall?
I'm not obligated to treat stupid authoritarian fuck sticks with dignity or respect.
I'd rather snuff them out with a pillow.
Man, you're a real asset to intelligent discourse, aintcha.
:crazy:
There is no legitimate discourse to be engaged in with a douchebag.....only contempt and derision.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2021, 08:49:54 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2021, 08:49:54 AM
WTF is that??
Is that the best you can offer a civil exchange of views?
Fuxake, boy. Did you ever leave Brawl Hall?
I'm not obligated to treat stupid authoritarian fuck sticks with dignity or respect.
I'd rather snuff them out with a pillow.
Man, you're a real asset to intelligent discourse, aintcha.
:crazy:
There is no legitimate discourse to be engaged in with a douchebag.....only contempt and derision.
Nobody here fits that description.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 18, 2021, 01:29:13 PM
Post by: cc on October 18, 2021, 01:29:13 PM
WTF is that??
Is that the best you can offer a civil exchange of views?
Fuxake, boy. Did you ever leave Brawl Hall?
I'm not obligated to treat stupid authoritarian fuck sticks with dignity or respect.I'd rather snuff them out with a pillow.
Man, you're a real asset to intelligent discourse, aintcha.
:crazy:
There is no legitimate discourse to be engaged in with a douchebag.....only contempt and derision.
Nobody here fits that description.
hmmmm .. reading the above, there is one who could be considered to the honorary title
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on October 18, 2021, 01:42:50 PM
Post by: Blazor on October 18, 2021, 01:42:50 PM
Obama's Birthday Party.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2021, 05:47:11 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2021, 05:47:11 PM
If you still doubt if it works, let me help reinforce that with 3 words.....
Obama's Birthday Party.
And?
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 18, 2021, 05:54:05 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 18, 2021, 05:54:05 PM
Must be an American reference.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2021, 06:21:39 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2021, 06:21:39 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 18, 2021, 07:18:43 PM
Post by: cc on October 18, 2021, 07:18:43 PM
According to the BC Ministry of Health, the unvaccinated were infected at a rate of 268 cases per 100,000 people from Oct. 8 to 14,
compared to 29.4 cases per 100,000 people among the fully vaccinated.
And that includes oldsters vaccinated long ago with no booster shots yet
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 18, 2021, 07:44:20 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 18, 2021, 07:44:20 PM
Today weekend results posted for Seoul as his thread title asks
According to the BC Ministry of Health, the unvaccinated were infected at a rate of 268 cases per 100,000 people from Oct. 8 to 14,
compared to 29.4 cases per 100,000 people among the fully vaccinated.
And that includes oldsters vaccinated long ago with no booster shots yetAt 9.1 - 1 .... As this at least 8 to 1 ration is consistently the pattern for infectability continues & over & and everywhere ... I'm not sure what more you want
I hate to being banging the same gong, but this kind of statistic is deceptive!!! How can the number of "infected" be measured reliably when many will not be aware they are carrying the virus EVEN IF NOT VACCINATED. This data merely identifies the number of people who have shown symptoms. Vaccinated people won't be covered.
It does not mean they are not infected or infectious. It simply means they don't become ill.
This distinction is crucial, and governments are ignoring it to convince EVERYONE that vaccination will stop the spread. Unless someone presents at a medical facility with the virus, the count is invalid. They must test thousands of people, both vaxxed and unvaxxed, to assess if and how the virus moves through the population and the effect the vaccine has on that movement.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2021, 07:52:20 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2021, 07:52:20 PM
Today weekend results posted for Seoul as his thread title asks
According to the BC Ministry of Health, the unvaccinated were infected at a rate of 268 cases per 100,000 people from Oct. 8 to 14,
compared to 29.4 cases per 100,000 people among the fully vaccinated.
And that includes oldsters vaccinated long ago with no booster shots yetAt 9.1 - 1 .... As this at least 8 to 1 ration is consistently the pattern for infectability continues & over & and everywhere ... I'm not sure what more you want
I hate to being banging the same gong, but this kind of statistic is deceptive!!! How can the number of "infected" be measured reliably when many will not be aware they are carrying the virus EVEN IF NOT VACCINATED. This data merely identifies the number of people who have shown symptoms. Vaccinated people won't be covered.
It does not mean they are not infected or infectious. It simply means they don't become ill.
This distinction is crucial, and governments are ignoring it to convince EVERYONE that vaccination will stop the spread. Unless someone presents at a medical facility with the virus, the count is invalid. They must test thousands of people, both vaxxed and unvaxxed, to assess if and how the virus moves through the population and the effect the vaccine has on that movement.
It's logistically impossible to test everybody..
We test those with any sumptoms and those that have come in contact with an infected person,
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 18, 2021, 09:41:36 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 18, 2021, 09:41:36 PM
In order to accurately understand how the vaccine affects the virus the government needs to test a sample in the magnitude of hundreds of thousands that includes vaccinated vs unvaccinated. And then it needs to understand HOW those infected became infected.
I'm all for getting vaccinated if that is your choice, but I'm not for forcing people to undertake a course of action, particularly where their own bodies are concerned, when we understand so little about what impact the vaccine really has on the community.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2021, 09:51:56 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2021, 09:51:56 PM
And so your hit rate is going to be distorted by your sample characteristics. This is not helpful from a virus management perspective.
In order to accurately understand how the vaccine affects the virus the government needs to test a sample in the magnitude of hundreds of thousands that includes vaccinated vs unvaccinated. And then it needs to understand HOW those infected became infected.
I'm all for getting vaccinated if that is your choice, but I'm not for forcing people to undertake a course of action, particularly where their own bodies are concerned, when we understand so little about what impact the vaccine really has on the community.
Fash is right, that aint possible.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 18, 2021, 11:34:30 PM
Post by: Frood on October 18, 2021, 11:34:30 PM
And so your hit rate is going to be distorted by your sample characteristics. This is not helpful from a virus management perspective.
In order to accurately understand how the vaccine affects the virus the government needs to test a sample in the magnitude of hundreds of thousands that includes vaccinated vs unvaccinated. And then it needs to understand HOW those infected became infected.
I'm all for getting vaccinated if that is your choice, but I'm not for forcing people to undertake a course of action, particularly where their own bodies are concerned, when we understand so little about what impact the vaccine really has on the community.
That's a sane take...
Particularly where seasonal influenza and covid have similar rates of demise.
We'd be having an entirely different conversation if Ebola or Marburg was proliferating... I still wouldn't agree to forced or coerced jabs with those either, but it would be a moot point because the kill rate would be so high, it wouldn't matter if an emergency use vaccine did or didn't have years or a decade of study and testing... people would either get it, not get it, and live and die in very short order.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 18, 2021, 11:55:03 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 18, 2021, 11:55:03 PM
I just heard on Fox News (which I realise is hardly impartial...but it was a medical researcher being interviewed) that 71% of those who have experienced the virus have demonstrated immunity against a second infection. He stated that this was around the same percentage of those who have been vaccinated.
Not sure what to make of it...
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 18, 2021, 11:57:53 PM
Post by: cc on October 18, 2021, 11:57:53 PM
They are getting no consideration for vaccine "passports" .. then the science is not settled because few are even addressing it ... This lack has boggled me from the gitgo
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 19, 2021, 12:12:12 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 19, 2021, 12:12:12 AM
Sadly there is less research on natural protection. I've read Ex Spurts all over the map on it from little to immense protection
They are getting no consideration for vaccine "passports" .. then the science is not settled because few are even addressing it ... This lack has boggled me from the gitgo
I've read that natural immunity offers superior protection.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 19, 2021, 12:16:46 AM
Post by: cc on October 19, 2021, 12:16:46 AM
That's why I mentioned so little has been studied about it .. and what has is often conflicting .. and I find that amazing and not fair to those who were infected
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 19, 2021, 12:19:50 AM
Post by: Frood on October 19, 2021, 12:19:50 AM
And that is not totally impossible...our worst fears can yet come to pass, as Covid has proven.
I just heard on Fox News (which I realise is hardly impartial...but it was a medical researcher being interviewed) that 71% of those who have experienced the virus have demonstrated immunity against a second infection. He stated that this was around the same percentage of those who have been vaccinated.
Not sure what to make of it...
If you probe deeper, natural immunity is much more robust than vaxx immunity which has now proven to not stop transmission or infection.
So... get covid and survive it like the 98-99% do, and you're set... it's relegated to common cold status through all the broad immunological responses in the human body. Get jabbed, and you're beholden to an isolated spike protein based response and then primed for ADE (Antibody Dependent Enhancement)...
I get why the aged do it... but it's not a healthy choice in more youthful populations and especially the kids, which authorities are licking their chops over while doling out subterfuge to enable kid jabs sooner rather than later.
It all stinks...what started as 2 weeks to flatten the curve has morphed into a monster and the monster needs to feed feed feed...
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 19, 2021, 12:20:59 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 19, 2021, 12:20:59 AM
I have also, but I've read otherwise also .. and I've read "about equal"
That's why I mentioned so little has been studied about it .. and what has is often conflicting .. and I find that amazing and not fair to those who were infected
It seems now natural immunity is considered at least as good as vaccines.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 19, 2021, 12:26:48 AM
Post by: cc on October 19, 2021, 12:26:48 AM
I have also, but I've read otherwise also .. and I've read "about equal"
That's why I mentioned so little has been studied about it .. and what has is often conflicting .. and I find that amazing and not fair to those who were infected
It seems now natural immunity is considered at least as good as vaccines.
Yes. Seems so from some recent articles .. but more knowledge / science would be a plus
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 19, 2021, 09:16:06 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 19, 2021, 09:16:06 AM
I have also, but I've read otherwise also .. and I've read "about equal"
That's why I mentioned so little has been studied about it .. and what has is often conflicting .. and I find that amazing and not fair to those who were infected
It seems now natural immunity is considered at least as good as vaccines.
Yes. Seems so from some recent articles .. but more knowledge / science would be a plus
Not that long ago, top docs were talking down natural immunity.
On Oct. 4, a Project Veritas exposé revealed that multiple scientists at COVID-19 vaccine maker Pfizer believe natural immunity is superior to the immunity conferred by their own product.
"When somebody is naturally immune, like they got COVID, they probably have better—like, not better, but more—antibodies against the virus," said Nick Karl, a Pfizer biochemist.
"Because what the vaccine is, is it—like I said, that protein—that's just on the outside," Karl said, referring to the spike protein on the surface of the CCP virus, which the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 replicates with the aim of inducing immunity.
"So it's just one antibody against one specific part of the virus. When you actually get the virus, you're going to start producing antibodies against, like, multiple pieces of virus, and not only just like the outside portion, like the inside portion, the actual virus.
"So your antibodies are probably better at that point than the vaccination."
Chris Croce, a senior associate scientist at Pfizer, told a Veritas journalist that natural immunity leaves people "protected most likely for longer [than vaccination] since there was a natural response."
"If you have [COVID-19] antibodies built up, like, you should be able to prove that you have those built up," said Rahul Khandke, another Pfizer scientist.
Yet media coverage of natural immunity sometimes seems designed to call its very existence into question.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on October 19, 2021, 12:55:04 PM
Post by: Blazor on October 19, 2021, 12:55:04 PM
Vaxholes can stick it where the sun dont shine.
Teehee.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 19, 2021, 01:40:14 PM
Post by: cc on October 19, 2021, 01:40:14 PM
Should have added "
In your hurry to "get" vaxxers, swallowed any hooks lately?
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 19, 2021, 01:50:45 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 19, 2021, 01:50:45 PM
I have superior genes, my immunity is on an Alpha level. I walk tall, and swing my big ol' ding-a-ling lol.
Vaxholes can stick it where the sun dont shine.
Teehee.
Not teehee, you mean duh.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on October 19, 2021, 02:06:24 PM
Post by: Blazor on October 19, 2021, 02:06:24 PM
Non-vaxxers have been proven to have at least 2 more inches in length than vaxxers, and more girth too.
lol
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 19, 2021, 05:39:08 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 19, 2021, 05:39:08 PM
"No 10 said the government was "not complacent" about rising cases but that, due to the vaccination programme, "the levels we are seeing in both patients admitted to hospital and deaths are far lower than we saw in previous peaks".
The seven-day average of new Covid cases in the UK has risen from around 34,000 a day at the beginning of October to 44,145 cases per day."
It seems abundantly clear that innoculation does NOT prevent the infection rate. As cited above and as I observed in an earlier post, innoculation lowers the demand on medical services.
Period.
The government led assertion that vaccination is essential to "stop the spread" is a lie. The spread continues.
Take the vaccine if you choose to. But the argument led by indignant vaxxers that taking the vaccine is your communal responsibility is in tatters.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 19, 2021, 08:09:06 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 19, 2021, 08:09:06 PM
UK cases are rising despite the massive innoculation program.//https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58973185
"No 10 said the government was "not complacent" about rising cases but that, due to the vaccination programme, "the levels we are seeing in both patients admitted to hospital and deaths are far lower than we saw in previous peaks".
The seven-day average of new Covid cases in the UK has risen from around 34,000 a day at the beginning of October to 44,145 cases per day."
It seems abundantly clear that innoculation does NOT prevent the infection rate. As cited above and as I observed in an earlier post, innoculation lowers the demand on medical services.
Period.
The government led assertion that vaccination is essential to "stop the spread" is a lie. The spread continues.
Take the vaccine if you choose to. But the argument led by indignant vaxxers that taking the vaccine is your communal responsibility is in tatters.
This has been posted here before about countries with high vaccination rates having high infection rates..
In Canada, it's the unvaccinated who are catching the virus.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 19, 2021, 08:40:38 PM
Post by: cc on October 19, 2021, 08:40:38 PM
It seems abundantly clear that innoculation does NOT prevent the infection rate.Quote
That's a strange was to put it. Nothing "prevents" the infection rate .. in fact the words together make no sense to me. Possibly you meant to phrase it differently ... although I think you previously alluded to 0 protection from vaxxes .. the only person I have encountered saying that
UK is unique among Western countries in that it mainly used AZ almost exclusively "I believe" (but am open to info to the contrary).. which while known to be lower at preventing initially, I have seen no data on it over time.
I would expect it to act similarly to others over time, allowing prolly not exactly as it's a different animal to the mRNAs.
For sure I have seen nothing anywhere saying UK's vax prevention is 0 which the above statement appears to be saying.
Just as in every country, state & province, vax "lowers" / infection possibility among vaxxed and that rate lessens from dose time .. but still remain very effective today at prevention
If you are saying it's prevention value is 0 in the UK , please clarify it and I ask you to verify that .. which, while it's confusing to me, I think is what you are saying .. and I would require very serious and extensive proof in order to accept it
I do agree that because of symptom improvement value, there will likely be more vaxxed not reporting it at all
Apart from infection itself and very high number of infected, fortunately UK is the best in the Western world for deaths / case at 0.36% ... or 1 in every 278 cases . Well OK, ya got me ... Israel is 0.33% .. both rates are current and determined over the period of the past 10 weeks so is relevant to today's situation
Another factor is that UK was first outa the gate on vaccinations & went at it rapidly .. so in that regard, timing is not on their side until boosters are more common
Point of interest, 1 in 7.97 people have been confirmed infection since the start
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 19, 2021, 09:49:12 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 19, 2021, 09:49:12 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 19, 2021, 10:18:01 PM
Post by: cc on October 19, 2021, 10:18:01 PM
Here's one for our resident clown show to glom onto
U.S. Republican Senator Ron Johnson used health data gathered in England to claim more vaccinated people have been seriously affected by the Delta COVID-19 variant than the unvaccinated.
Johnson's statements, and subsequent social media posts sharing them,
Hint - UK has the lowest death / case rate in the world alongside Israel ... Good luck proving it Ron
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 19, 2021, 11:13:16 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 19, 2021, 11:13:16 PM
In Canada, it's the unvaccinated who are catching the virus.
How do you know?
Are the vaccinated being tested?
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 20, 2021, 12:43:33 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 20, 2021, 12:43:33 AM
In Canada, it's the unvaccinated who are catching the virus.
How do you know?
Are the vaccinated being tested?
The people who have symptoms are bing tested. The people who came in contact with the people showing symptoms are being tested. Guess who are testing positive? The ones who have not been vaccinated. Strange aint it.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 20, 2021, 01:42:55 AM
Post by: cc on October 20, 2021, 01:42:55 AM
The people who came in contact with the people showing symptoms are being tested.Quote from: Herman post_id=424355 time=1634705013 user_id=1689
I was about to concede that those without symptoms would alter the ratio, but you are right
Most of them would get picked up as positive via "contact tracking" and testing around known carriers
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 20, 2021, 08:54:33 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 20, 2021, 08:54:33 AM
In Alberta, we're seeing that immunity wanes considerably with Pfizer on seniors and immunocompromised who are the vaccinated who are testing positive..
We have to move faster getting peopke in that demographic a third dose.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 20, 2021, 09:18:06 AM
Post by: cc on October 20, 2021, 09:18:06 AM
BC made promises for booster - so far I can find little to support progress
They all have lots of material and did wonders in the early days - There is no excuse for tardiness now in any province..
again, I can't nail it as slow .. just can't find evidence they are moving fast
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 20, 2021, 09:33:19 AM
Post by: Frood on October 20, 2021, 09:33:19 AM
....you people are fucking stupid.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 20, 2021, 09:47:46 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 20, 2021, 09:47:46 AM
Blah blah blah....rah rah rah...
....you people are fucking stupid.:001_rolleyes:
Look at the thread title. Take this juvenile BF spam to another thread or better yet, BF itself.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 20, 2021, 10:39:11 AM
Post by: Frood on October 20, 2021, 10:39:11 AM
Blah blah blah....rah rah rah...
....you people are fucking stupid.:001_rolleyes:
Look at the thread title. Take this juvenile BF spam to another thread or better yet, BF itself.
BC people first
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 20, 2021, 01:34:11 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 20, 2021, 01:34:11 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 20, 2021, 07:04:43 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 20, 2021, 07:04:43 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 20, 2021, 09:54:53 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 20, 2021, 09:54:53 PM
We should take care not to confuse those who hate vaccines because they are a few roos short in the top paddock, and those that oppose mandatory vaccination. The two groups are not the same.
Agreed.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 20, 2021, 09:59:41 PM
Post by: Frood on October 20, 2021, 09:59:41 PM
DD knows nothing about vaccines, but he hates them. How can anyone explain why they oppose vaccines, when they don't know why themselves.
Shush, retard.... you're clowning yourself again.
I know the difference between experimental gene therapy treatments with no long term safety and efficacy data AND with real vaccines WITH long term safety and efficacy data.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 20, 2021, 11:18:40 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 20, 2021, 11:18:40 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 20, 2021, 11:45:15 PM
Post by: Frood on October 20, 2021, 11:45:15 PM
Sorry about your prick.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 21, 2021, 12:41:42 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 21, 2021, 12:41:42 AM
DD knows nothing about vaccines, but he hates them. How can anyone explain why they oppose vaccines, when they don't know why themselves.
Shush, retard.... you're clowning yourself again.
I know the difference betweenexperimental gene therapy treatmentswith no long term safety and efficacy data AND with real vaccines WITH long term safety and efficacy data.
I thought we put that silly rumour to bed once and forever..
mRNA vaccines are distinct from gene therapy,
"As mRNA is genetic material, mRNA vaccines can be looked at as a genetic-based therapy, but they are classified as vaccines and are not designed to alter your genes," said Dr Adam Taylor, a virologist and research fellow at the Menzies Health Institute, Queensland, Griffith University.
"Gene therapy, in the classical sense, involves making deliberate changes to a patient's DNA in order to treat or cure them. mRNA vaccines will not enter a cell's nucleus that houses your DNA genome. There is zero risk of these vaccines integrating into our own genome or altering our genetic makeup."
Taylor explained that mRNA enters cells shortly after vaccination and instructs them to create a SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, prompting the immune response.
He added that unlike gene therapy, mRNA vaccines are then "rapidly degraded" by the body.
"In fact, because mRNA is degraded so quickly chemical modifications can be made to mRNA vaccines to make them a little more stable than regular mRNA."
Gene therapy, on the other hand, involves a process whereby an individual's genetic makeup is deliberately modified to cure or treat a specific genetic condition (here).
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 21, 2021, 01:00:20 AM
Post by: Bricktop on October 21, 2021, 01:00:20 AM
Using facts on poor Freud.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 21, 2021, 01:06:32 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 21, 2021, 01:06:32 AM
That's unfair, Fash.
Using facts on poor Freud.
Seoul is one of the most reasonable posters on these forums who also happens to be a vaccine skeptic similar to yourself..
But, he got tired of the memes, fake stories that are so easily debunked he started this thread for data supported arguments..
The most ardent anti vaxxers can't do that.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 21, 2021, 01:16:20 AM
Post by: cc on October 21, 2021, 01:16:20 AM
That's unfair, Fash.
Using facts on poor Freud.
Merciless
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 21, 2021, 01:26:14 AM
Post by: Frood on October 21, 2021, 01:26:14 AM
You people are so ignorant... it's astounding.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 21, 2021, 01:53:14 AM
Post by: Bricktop on October 21, 2021, 01:53:14 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 21, 2021, 08:30:25 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 21, 2021, 08:30:25 AM
Ignorant of what?
He's never explained.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 21, 2021, 09:07:10 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 21, 2021, 09:07:10 AM
That's unfair, Fash.
Using facts on poor Freud.
He should give up on "killer vaccines." That's lost. Opposition to vaccines should be based on cold hard facts. This for example.
Nearly 1,900 Washington State Employees Quit or Were Fired Over COVID-19 Vaccine Mandate
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 21, 2021, 12:00:18 PM
Post by: cc on October 21, 2021, 12:00:18 PM
That's unfair, Fash.
Using facts on poor Freud.
Good spot!!
Yes. While having successfully created a "sweet and gentle" persona, clearly there lurks a mean vicious element under it all
That act alone is concrete proof
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 21, 2021, 02:28:10 PM
Post by: Frood on October 21, 2021, 02:28:10 PM
That's unfair, Fash.
Using facts on poor Freud.
Good spot!!
Yes. While having successfully created a "sweet and gentle" persona, clearly there lurks a mean vicious element under it all
That act alone is concrete proof
ac_smile
While I don't wish death on you or any of my compliant fam members, you'll all get your just desserts in the end.... and us unvaxxed will be forced to bury corpses and raise your young kids.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 21, 2021, 02:54:43 PM
Post by: Frood on October 21, 2021, 02:54:43 PM
Ignorant of what?
He's never explained.
Why bother these days?
I'm being serious here....
Health authorities have spent over 80 years priming the population to accept their vaccination suggestions, yet quickly mandated unapproved non-vaccinations in the same breath....despite massive deaths and illnesses following these recent jabs and the fact that these things diverged from long standing and proven science, have never been adequately tested on humans, and there aren't even 2-3 year results on them....much less 8-10 year studies as is per the custom....
Why should I bother?
You folks made up your minds. I made up mine.
You chose propaganda. I chose science.
Little known fact about me and my missus... we have a very healthy 9 year old daughter that nurses and doctors wanted to immediately jab with Vit K, then through a yellow vinyl document holder, constantly before she got to 5 years of age.
Literally dozens of jabs for everything from basic things like polio and tetanus, to a whole slew of things like Gardasil and the chicken pox jab. We put our foot down for a number of these things and got told that if we didn't do EVERYTHING in the schedule, we'd lose out in tax rebates every year to the tune of many thousands of dollars.
We wanted certain jabs but NOT other ones... and that didn't matter in the end.
Eventually we got told that children below a certain age not on the schedule would not be allowed to attend school. She barely escaped that age mandate... so we breathed a breath of relief, and kept on...
NOW they're gearing up to punish her for not taking an unnecessary experimental.
If they do that, we're fucking homeschooling. We've had a taste of online learning over 18 months and it's already craptastic. I will take her into the remote bush and whether I have available textbooks or not, do a far better job than what has been done already, while living in a fucking tent or two.
We'll plant gardens, erect fences, and camouflage our presence...
She will be better off.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 21, 2021, 08:42:30 PM
Post by: cc on October 21, 2021, 08:42:30 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 21, 2021, 10:32:07 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 21, 2021, 10:32:07 PM
You chose propaganda. I chose science.Quote
Old Dink said this.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 21, 2021, 11:27:55 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 21, 2021, 11:27:55 PM
You chose propaganda. I chose science.Quote
Old Dink said this.:roll:
The data about who is catching COVID and who is getting sick and dying from it is propaganda, but conspiracy videos on bitchute are science.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 22, 2021, 03:51:27 AM
Post by: Bricktop on October 22, 2021, 03:51:27 AM
Why should I bother?
Allow me, son, to answer that question.
Had you been around as long as I, through the 50's and 60's in particular, a number of contagious and extremely debilitating diseases were common in our communities. Some were less common, but more dire and potentially fatal.
Polio. Rubella. Smallpox. Mumps. Cholera. Tuberculosis.
Lives were shattered, if not terminated. These diseases were caused by viruses in the main.
Medical technology developed vaccinations for this illnesses which were then given to every child as part of a school program, and as a result your 9 year old daughter can live in a community effectively free of these horrible diseases. Not all diseases were eliminated, but they are working on it.
More recently, a fatal virus called AIDS appeared in our midst which threatened to kill thousands.
A vaccine and remedy were developed, and now you hardly hear of anyone with an AIDS infection.
So the answer to your question is that before you consider bothering, take note of history, and understand how many lives are saved as a result of these inoculation programs. Then, if you feel the need go ahead and bother.
I doubt anyone will take any notice...but knock yourself out.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 22, 2021, 04:42:56 AM
Post by: Frood on October 22, 2021, 04:42:56 AM
Why should I bother?
Allow me, son, to answer that question.
Had you been around as long as I, through the 50's and 60's in particular, a number of contagious and extremely debilitating diseases were common in our communities. Some were less common, but more dire and potentially fatal.
Polio. Rubella. Smallpox. Mumps. Cholera. Tuberculosis.
Lives were shattered, if not terminated. These diseases were caused by viruses in the main.
Medical technology developed vaccinations for this illnesses which were then given to every child as part of a school program, and as a result your 9 year old daughter can live in a community effectively free of these horrible diseases. Not all diseases were eliminated, but they are working on it.
More recently, a fatal virus called AIDS appeared in our midst which threatened to kill thousands.
A vaccine and remedy were developed, and now you hardly hear of anyone with an AIDS infection.
So the answer to your question is that before you consider bothering, take note of history, and understand how many lives are saved as a result of these inoculation programs. Then, if you feel the need go ahead and bother.
I doubt anyone will take any notice...but knock yourself out.
Ok, Boomer...
(Despite you not understanding that I'm not antivaxx but rather anti certain vaxxes and particularly anti THIS experimental drug treatment with no long term trials but a shit load of dangerous side effects.)
Say hi to 1976 for me....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 22, 2021, 08:54:52 AM
Post by: cc on October 22, 2021, 08:54:52 AM
I'm going to have the juice sucked out of me. There's a guy who says he can separate it out in his basement and he sounds creditable to me
Thanks for the tip
I hope Seoul sees this as it will likely be decisive / convincing
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2021, 09:52:59 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2021, 09:52:59 AM
Why should I bother?
Allow me, son, to answer that question.
Had you been around as long as I, through the 50's and 60's in particular, a number of contagious and extremely debilitating diseases were common in our communities. Some were less common, but more dire and potentially fatal.
Polio. Rubella. Smallpox. Mumps. Cholera. Tuberculosis.
Lives were shattered, if not terminated. These diseases were caused by viruses in the main.
Medical technology developed vaccinations for this illnesses which were then given to every child as part of a school program, and as a result your 9 year old daughter can live in a community effectively free of these horrible diseases. Not all diseases were eliminated, but they are working on it.
More recently, a fatal virus called AIDS appeared in our midst which threatened to kill thousands.
A vaccine and remedy were developed, and now you hardly hear of anyone with an AIDS infection.
So the answer to your question is that before you consider bothering, take note of history, and understand how many lives are saved as a result of these inoculation programs. Then, if you feel the need go ahead and bother.
I doubt anyone will take any notice...but knock yourself out.
Ok, Boomer...
(Despite you not understanding that I'm not antivaxx but rather anti certain vaxxes and particularly anti THIS experimental drug treatment with no long term trials but a shit load of dangerous side effects.)
Say hi to 1976 for me....https://youtu.be/quBemFzabG8
The swine flu vaccine, unlike the current COVID vaccines was a live attenuated vaccine that could possibly cause Guillain-Barré Syndrome..
Dr. Matthew Laurens, a vaccine researcher at the University of Maryland School of Medicine explains it here.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2021, 10:11:47 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2021, 10:11:47 AM
Why should I bother?
Allow me, son, to answer that question.
Had you been around as long as I, through the 50's and 60's in particular, a number of contagious and extremely debilitating diseases were common in our communities. Some were less common, but more dire and potentially fatal.
Polio. Rubella. Smallpox. Mumps. Cholera. Tuberculosis.
Lives were shattered, if not terminated. These diseases were caused by viruses in the main.
Medical technology developed vaccinations for this illnesses which were then given to every child as part of a school program, and as a result your 9 year old daughter can live in a community effectively free of these horrible diseases. Not all diseases were eliminated, but they are working on it.
More recently, a fatal virus called AIDS appeared in our midst which threatened to kill thousands.
A vaccine and remedy were developed, and now you hardly hear of anyone with an AIDS infection.
So the answer to your question is that before you consider bothering, take note of history, and understand how many lives are saved as a result of these inoculation programs. Then, if you feel the need go ahead and bother.
I doubt anyone will take any notice...but knock yourself out.
Ok, Boomer...
(Despite you not understanding that I'm not antivaxx but rather anti certain vaxxes and particularly anti THIS experimental drug treatment with no long term trials but a shit load of dangerous side effects.)
Say hi to 1976 for me....https://youtu.be/quBemFzabG8
The swine flu vaccine, unlike the current COVID vaccines was a live attenuated vaccine that could possibly cause Guillain-Barré Syndrome..
Dr. Matthew Laurens, a vaccine researcher at the University of Maryland School of Medicine explains it here.https://ca.movies.yahoo.com/does-covid-19-vaccine-differ-150217832.html
I know the swine flu vax is not the same as COVID vaccines. Using the problems they had 45 years ago to nix current vaccines is like saying 'I won't buy a Ford F-150 because in the the seventies, Ford built the Pinto which was a piece of junk.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 22, 2021, 10:15:32 AM
Post by: Frood on October 22, 2021, 10:15:32 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2021, 10:21:03 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2021, 10:21:03 AM
So you folks agree with all vaccinations but can't mount a defense about Covid injections?
You have it ass backwards. Fash and cc are wiping the floor with you. They have data, you have grainy videos from the seventies that have no comparison to today's vaccines.
So, I'm aksing you again- post something to back up claims that vaccines are dangerous. I have doubts about their efficacy, but the lethal part appeals to clowns like Scouse. That's what I am seeing. Show some hard data to show that people getting sick are unvaxxed. You will never never win a debate with that embarrassingly stupid video.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 22, 2021, 10:30:29 AM
Post by: Frood on October 22, 2021, 10:30:29 AM
So you folks agree with all vaccinations but can't mount a defense about Covid injections?
You have it ass backwards. Fash and cc are wiping the floor with you. They have data, you have grainy videos from the seventies that have no comparison to today's vaccines.
So, I'm aksing you again- post something to back up claims that vaccines are dangerous. I have doubts about their efficacy, but the lethal part appeals to clowns like Scouse. That's what I am seeing. Show some hard data to show that people getting sick are unvaxxed. You will never never win a debate with that embarrassingly stupid video.
Just watch dozens of bitchute testimonials since YouTube doesn't want to play them ...
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2021, 10:37:59 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2021, 10:37:59 AM
Here's today's update on hospitalizations from BC Health (which echos similar data from UK etc. etc. etc.)Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Sept. 27-Oct. 10)Quote
Not vaccinated: 40.3
Partially vaccinated: 12.3
Fully vaccinated: 2.3
There are 242 people in ICU in this province, 8.3 per cent are fully vaccinated.Quotehttps://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-a ... istics.htm
Herman posted this.
I found something from my province on adverse reactions.Quote
As of October 2, 2021, a cumulative total of 905 reports have been received, following 1,613,309 doses of COVID-19 vaccines administered, with a reporting rate of 0.56 per 1000 doses administered (0.056% of all doses administered). Refer to Tables 1 and 2 for more details.
Adverse event type # of events
Injection site reactions 162
Rashes (all) 156
Anesthesia/paresthesia 152
Edema (allergic, not injection site) 144
Vomiting/diarrhea/nausea 95
Anaphylaxis 58
Headache 54
Chest tightness 42
Malaise/lethargy 33
Fever 27
Arthralgia/arthritis/joint pain 27https://www.saskatchewan.ca/government/ ... skatchewan
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2021, 10:46:04 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2021, 10:46:04 AM
I can understand why DD, Blazor and DSM are cynical. But, ignoring all data and basing opinions on easily debunked links and fake videos? They should stick with opposition to all mandates. There is a strong case to be made for that. Besides, that would not make them look like jokes like villainous vaccines does.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 22, 2021, 03:38:24 PM
Post by: Frood on October 22, 2021, 03:38:24 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 22, 2021, 04:26:55 PM
Post by: cc on October 22, 2021, 04:26:55 PM
Seoul, sadly you need to add "lame idiotic childish remarks" to "without stupid memes and videos"
I think you were expecting big girls
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2021, 11:34:58 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2021, 11:34:58 PM
Why should I bother?
Allow me, son, to answer that question.
Had you been around as long as I, through the 50's and 60's in particular, a number of contagious and extremely debilitating diseases were common in our communities. Some were less common, but more dire and potentially fatal.
Polio. Rubella. Smallpox. Mumps. Cholera. Tuberculosis.
Lives were shattered, if not terminated. These diseases were caused by viruses in the main.
Medical technology developed vaccinations for this illnesses which were then given to every child as part of a school program, and as a result your 9 year old daughter can live in a community effectively free of these horrible diseases. Not all diseases were eliminated, but they are working on it.
More recently, a fatal virus called AIDS appeared in our midst which threatened to kill thousands.
A vaccine and remedy were developed, and now you hardly hear of anyone with an AIDS infection.
So the answer to your question is that before you consider bothering, take note of history, and understand how many lives are saved as a result of these inoculation programs. Then, if you feel the need go ahead and bother.
I doubt anyone will take any notice...but knock yourself out.
Ok, Boomer...
(Despite you not understanding that I'm not antivaxx but rather anti certain vaxxes and particularly anti THIS experimental drug treatment with no long term trials but a shit load of dangerous side effects.)
Say hi to 1976 for me....https://youtu.be/quBemFzabG8
The swine flu vaccine, unlike the current COVID vaccines was a live attenuated vaccine that could possibly cause Guillain-Barré Syndrome..
Dr. Matthew Laurens, a vaccine researcher at the University of Maryland School of Medicine explains it here.https://ca.movies.yahoo.com/does-covid-19-vaccine-differ-150217832.html
This is a first rate cunting.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 23, 2021, 12:05:09 AM
Post by: Bricktop on October 23, 2021, 12:05:09 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2021, 12:08:33 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2021, 12:08:33 AM
He deserves no less. He is FREUD after all.
I certainly wasn't trying to do anything like that.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 23, 2021, 02:13:45 AM
Post by: Bricktop on October 23, 2021, 02:13:45 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 23, 2021, 03:53:50 AM
Post by: Frood on October 23, 2021, 03:53:50 AM
My patience with the more retarded portions of your overall character has its limits.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 23, 2021, 03:55:38 AM
Post by: Frood on October 23, 2021, 03:55:38 AM
Why should I bother?
Allow me, son, to answer that question.
Had you been around as long as I, through the 50's and 60's in particular, a number of contagious and extremely debilitating diseases were common in our communities. Some were less common, but more dire and potentially fatal.
Polio. Rubella. Smallpox. Mumps. Cholera. Tuberculosis.
Lives were shattered, if not terminated. These diseases were caused by viruses in the main.
Medical technology developed vaccinations for this illnesses which were then given to every child as part of a school program, and as a result your 9 year old daughter can live in a community effectively free of these horrible diseases. Not all diseases were eliminated, but they are working on it.
More recently, a fatal virus called AIDS appeared in our midst which threatened to kill thousands.
A vaccine and remedy were developed, and now you hardly hear of anyone with an AIDS infection.
So the answer to your question is that before you consider bothering, take note of history, and understand how many lives are saved as a result of these inoculation programs. Then, if you feel the need go ahead and bother.
I doubt anyone will take any notice...but knock yourself out.
Ok, Boomer...
(Despite you not understanding that I'm not antivaxx but rather anti certain vaxxes and particularly anti THIS experimental drug treatment with no long term trials but a shit load of dangerous side effects.)
Say hi to 1976 for me....https://youtu.be/quBemFzabG8
The swine flu vaccine, unlike the current COVID vaccines was a live attenuated vaccine that could possibly cause Guillain-Barré Syndrome..
Dr. Matthew Laurens, a vaccine researcher at the University of Maryland School of Medicine explains it here.https://ca.movies.yahoo.com/does-covid-19-vaccine-differ-150217832.html
This is a first rate cunting.
No, it's not a cunting at all.
It's regurgitation and a red herring.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2021, 09:20:07 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2021, 09:20:07 AM
Allow me, son, to answer that question.
Had you been around as long as I, through the 50's and 60's in particular, a number of contagious and extremely debilitating diseases were common in our communities. Some were less common, but more dire and potentially fatal.
Polio. Rubella. Smallpox. Mumps. Cholera. Tuberculosis.
Lives were shattered, if not terminated. These diseases were caused by viruses in the main.
Medical technology developed vaccinations for this illnesses which were then given to every child as part of a school program, and as a result your 9 year old daughter can live in a community effectively free of these horrible diseases. Not all diseases were eliminated, but they are working on it.
More recently, a fatal virus called AIDS appeared in our midst which threatened to kill thousands.
A vaccine and remedy were developed, and now you hardly hear of anyone with an AIDS infection.
So the answer to your question is that before you consider bothering, take note of history, and understand how many lives are saved as a result of these inoculation programs. Then, if you feel the need go ahead and bother.
I doubt anyone will take any notice...but knock yourself out.
Ok, Boomer...
(Despite you not understanding that I'm not antivaxx but rather anti certain vaxxes and particularly anti THIS experimental drug treatment with no long term trials but a shit load of dangerous side effects.)
Say hi to 1976 for me....https://youtu.be/quBemFzabG8
The swine flu vaccine, unlike the current COVID vaccines was a live attenuated vaccine that could possibly cause Guillain-Barré Syndrome..
Dr. Matthew Laurens, a vaccine researcher at the University of Maryland School of Medicine explains it here.https://ca.movies.yahoo.com/does-covid-19-vaccine-differ-150217832.html
This is a first rate cunting.
No, it's not a cunting at all.
You're right it wasn't and wasn't meant to be......it's science, that's all.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2021, 10:32:30 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2021, 10:32:30 AM
Anti-vaxxers should walk away from this unverifiable stance they have taken. Change their focus to opposition to mask and vaccine mandates. That could change minds and get elected leaders to take notice.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 23, 2021, 12:03:44 PM
Post by: cc on October 23, 2021, 12:03:44 PM
Anti-vaxxers should walk away from this unverifiable stance they have taken. Change their focus
Conspiracy minds a never change their causes and all use low level material because that's all they have as support
They are a breed of their own
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2021, 12:40:50 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2021, 12:40:50 PM
Anti-vaxxers should walk away from this unverifiable stance they have taken. Change their focus
Conspiracy minds a never change their causes and all use low level material because that's all they have as support
They are a breed of their own
That's true, they cannot use real data because there isn't any.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 23, 2021, 12:42:10 PM
Post by: Frood on October 23, 2021, 12:42:10 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 23, 2021, 01:08:26 PM
Post by: cc on October 23, 2021, 01:08:26 PM
Clearly they have none or they would have been posting it all along
By abstinence, they have settled the issue
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2021, 01:49:39 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2021, 01:49:39 PM
Sure thing, Jabs Jonestown...
That's all in your head and under your bed. If you had a shred of actual data to support your absurd claim, you would have accepted SB's challenge and posted it long ago.
Great thread, you lost, suck it up like a man.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 23, 2021, 04:25:29 PM
Post by: cc on October 23, 2021, 04:25:29 PM
Sure thing, Jabs Jonestown...
That's all in your head and under your bed. If you had a shred of actual data to support your absurd claim, you would have accepted SB's challenge and posted it long ago.
Great thread, you lost, suck it up like a man.
Takes a real "man" to "suck it up like a man"
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 23, 2021, 04:42:47 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 23, 2021, 04:42:47 PM
I know Fash. Well, I see this thread was a waste of time. I gave the anti-vax extremists an opportunity to back up what they say they believe with data like you and cc have, but nada, crickets. DSM did put some effort into it though.
Anti-vaxxers should walk away from this unverifiable stance they have taken. Change their focus to opposition to mask and vaccine mandates. That could change minds and get elected leaders to take notice.
i'm not here to change anyones mind.... i think a persons decision should be respected to a degree.... i don't care who chooses what regardless of how poor of a decision i feel it is.... i'm only stating my personal feelings on it.... i have no desire to argue the legitimacy of mask and vaccine mandates either.... theres no need.... on their face, they're unconstitutional and arguing the issue only weakens it.... just say 'no' and thats that.... let the chips fall where they may.... protests are equally as stupid.... i'm not 'demanding you give my rights back'.... i'm going on with my life as i please and i fuckin dare the government to interfere.... my family has a long history of fighting communists and i'll kill just as many as i need to.... as for being an anti-vaxxer, one only needs to look into the history of these companies.... moderna has never produced a successful product prior to this 'vaccine'.... johnson and johnson are in the middle of settling lawsuits over baby powder and sunscreen that cause cancer.... baby powder that contained asbestos that they knew was a carcinogenic but hid from the public anyway.... and pfizer (who is what is referred to as an habitual offender) has paid billions and billions in settlements for injuries as well as illegal and unethical business practices.... these are not characteristics of companies that i would trust.... especially to be a lab rat for a rushed and untested vaccine that they have no legal liability for.... if you don't think these vaccine junkies have stepped in a very deep river of 'guess what you got', then you're not thinking....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 23, 2021, 04:46:13 PM
Post by: cc on October 23, 2021, 04:46:13 PM
Always good to see and hear from a "gentleman" like yourself
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 23, 2021, 04:50:11 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 23, 2021, 04:50:11 PM
Hi Deader.
Always good to see and hear from a "gentleman" like yourselfac_smile
good to see you too.... it would be even better if 'gentleman' wasn't in quotes....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2021, 05:17:38 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2021, 05:17:38 PM
Hi Deader.
Always good to see and hear from a "gentleman" like yourselfac_smile
I very much agree.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 23, 2021, 05:20:19 PM
Post by: cc on October 23, 2021, 05:20:19 PM
Hi Deader.
Always good to see and hear from a "gentleman" like yourselfac_smile
good to see you too.... it would be even better if 'gentleman' wasn't in quotes....:laugh:
So you know, that's interpretation only. I did it to reinforce it .. not to put it in question
Next time I'll use bold text to make it clear
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 23, 2021, 05:57:09 PM
Post by: Frood on October 23, 2021, 05:57:09 PM
Sure thing, Jabs Jonestown...
That's all in your head and under your bed. If you had a shred of actual data to support your absurd claim, you would have accepted SB's challenge and posted it long ago.
Great thread, you lost, suck it up like a man.
Ok, Choo Choo boy....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 23, 2021, 07:58:31 PM
Post by: cc on October 23, 2021, 07:58:31 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 23, 2021, 08:00:32 PM
Post by: Frood on October 23, 2021, 08:00:32 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2021, 12:14:27 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2021, 12:14:27 AM
https://www.bitchute.com/video/CDl0s7nm5YY/
He made some good points. The loss of freedoms sucks. But, the vaccines work and the two gals have posted proof it does. Here is one example.
Here's today's update on hospitalizations from BC Health (which echos similar data from UK etc. etc. etc.)Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Sept. 27-Oct. 10)
Not vaccinated: 40.3
Partially vaccinated: 12.3
Fully vaccinated: 2.3
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 24, 2021, 01:00:45 AM
Post by: Frood on October 24, 2021, 01:00:45 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2021, 10:01:15 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2021, 10:01:15 AM
https://www.bitchute.com/video/m347F1asUo3S/
I agree. Fight authoritarianism and never surrender.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 11:00:57 AM
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 11:00:57 AM
I agree. Fight authoritarianism and never surrender.
In the long run "fighting everywhere" is moot ,.. just blabber / drama
The ballot box (at all levels from Federal to school boards) is the only "meaningful" method of fight
Talk doesn't walk
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 24, 2021, 11:14:03 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 24, 2021, 11:14:03 AM
The ballot box (at all levels from Federal to school boards) is the only "meaningful" method of fight
i think the ineffectiveness of 'the ballot box' has already been demonstrated in this last faux election.... and they used it as an opportunity to exhibit their total disregard of our opinions as well.... not to mention this new brand of self-serving justice that has become the norm.... no.... i see death and civil war fast approaching....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 11:34:15 AM
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 11:34:15 AM
The ballot box (at all levels from Federal to school boards) is the only "meaningful" method of fight
i think the ineffectiveness of 'the ballot box' has already been demonstrated in this last faux election.... and they used it as an opportunity to exhibit their total disregard of our opinions as well.... not to mention this new brand of self-serving justice that has become the norm.... no.... i see death and civil war fast approaching....
You are spot on that it has not been working to date & changing it peacefully may now be impossible
Please allow me some slack - I am not fully awake yet this morning
Could happen as "woke" and similar perversions continue to drag society down and backwards
Don't expect a pretty ending .. the woke now control all power mechanisms from schools to all elements of military .. and everything in between
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 24, 2021, 11:43:44 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 24, 2021, 11:43:44 AM
The ballot box (at all levels from Federal to school boards) is the only "meaningful" method of fight
i think the ineffectiveness of 'the ballot box' has already been demonstrated in this last faux election.... and they used it as an opportunity to exhibit their total disregard of our opinions as well.... not to mention this new brand of self-serving justice that has become the norm.... no.... i see death and civil war fast approaching....
Could happen as "woke" and similar perversions continue to drag society down and backwards
Don't expect a pretty ending .. the woke now control all power mechanisms from schools to all elements of military .. and everything in between
no amount of 'screaming at the sky' can save you from a shotgun blast.... i don't care how blue your hair is.... i would hope that ppl would realize the real enemy is government but to be honest it wouldn't hurt my feelings to kill all the liberals as well.... war is war.... and democrats have already declared us as enemies of the state....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 11:47:56 AM
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 11:47:56 AM
no amount of 'screaming at the sky' can save you from a shotgun blast.... i don't care how blue your hair is.... i would hope that ppl would realize the real enemy is government but to be honest it wouldn't hurt my feelings to kill all the liberals as well.... war is war.... and democrats have already declared us as enemies of the state....
Please allow me some slack - I am not fully awake yet this morning
I am aware that political power has been consolidated irreversibly by liberals ... and that they will do anything to keep it .. including deeming opposition as "enemy of the state"
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 11:49:24 AM
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 11:49:24 AM
There is a video here of a not-liberal Karen screaming at the sky, while offering no solutions
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 24, 2021, 11:50:38 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 24, 2021, 11:50:38 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 11:51:58 AM
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 11:51:58 AM
I especially agree that "no amount of 'screaming at the sky' " as we are now seeing is useless
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 11:52:16 AM
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 11:52:16 AM
I forget which thread .. as I said, I'm just slowly awaking this morning and thinking where we are at .. thus my mood is not a happy one
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 24, 2021, 11:55:48 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 24, 2021, 11:55:48 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 12:51:12 PM
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 12:51:12 PM
these ppl are too invested in communism to be capable of coexisting.
While I would term it a very different & nuanced form of communism .. they definitely are "incapable of coexisting with"
The left is in a power position ..a "Our way or highway" situation now with no foreseeable way to stop them
As a constructive society, we are on the way out
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2021, 01:48:07 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2021, 01:48:07 PM
The ballot box (at all levels from Federal to school boards) is the only "meaningful" method of fight
i think the ineffectiveness of 'the ballot box' has already been demonstrated in this last faux election.... and they used it as an opportunity to exhibit their total disregard of our opinions as well.... not to mention this new brand of self-serving justice that has become the norm.... no.... i see death and civil war fast approaching....
Bullseye!! We don't allow a marketplace of ideas in Canada either.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 02:16:26 PM
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 02:16:26 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2021, 02:55:35 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2021, 02:55:35 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 02:57:25 PM
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 02:57:25 PM
I don't care what any of you say, vaccine passports are good policy.
Agreed 100
We have every right be free of the unvaxed
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Aryan on October 24, 2021, 02:58:48 PM
Post by: Aryan on October 24, 2021, 02:58:48 PM
I don't care what any of you say, vaccine passports are good policy.
Vaxx cuck huh? What a surprise.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Aryan on October 24, 2021, 03:00:26 PM
Post by: Aryan on October 24, 2021, 03:00:26 PM
I don't care what any of you say, vaccine passports are good policy.
Agreed 100
We have every right be free of the unvaxed
You Covid Cultists should be "awarded" with a shiny yellow star.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 03:06:50 PM
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 03:06:50 PM
Bullseye!! We don't allow a marketplace of ideas in Canada either.
No-Think has become a Western society thang .. UK started early, EU are no better
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2021, 03:14:44 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2021, 03:14:44 PM
I don't care what any of you say, vaccine passports are good policy.
Agreed 100
We have every right be free of the unvaxed
You Covid Cultists should be "awarded" with a shiny yellow star.
I gather you're not vaccinated SCOUSE.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Aryan on October 24, 2021, 03:15:52 PM
Post by: Aryan on October 24, 2021, 03:15:52 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 03:18:24 PM
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 03:18:24 PM
well.... the stage is set.... nothing left to do but define the terms and light it up....:laugh:
You really think things will light up?
Maybe it will .. I was wrong once before
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2021, 03:20:01 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2021, 03:20:01 PM
Hell no. Jewish pharma can lick my Aryan swingers.
I should've known.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 03:22:05 PM
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 03:22:05 PM
A critter with a Liverpool accent thinking its a square head .. one of the funniest things I have seen on the net
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 24, 2021, 03:22:52 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 24, 2021, 03:22:52 PM
well.... the stage is set.... nothing left to do but define the terms and light it up....:laugh:
You really believe it will get lit up?
Maybe it will
i don't see a way around it.... they've all but 'declared war on conservatives' as it is.... common sense has been replaced with mass psychosis and theres no real justice in the court systems.... its at a genuine breaking point....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2021, 03:23:56 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2021, 03:23:56 PM
I don't care what any of you say, vaccine passports are good policy.
Vaxx cuck huh? What a surprise.
A selfish spreader with no concern for anyone around him. I am not surprised either.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 03:25:06 PM
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 03:25:06 PM
i don't see a way around it.... they've all but 'declared war on conservatives' as it is.... common sense has been replaced with mass psychosis and theres no real justice in the court systems.... its at a genuine breaking point....
they've all but 'declared war on conservatives' as it is. > True
... common sense has been replaced with mass psychosis > True
and theres no real justice in the court systems > True
its at a genuine breaking point > Does look that way, but difficult as the left 100% controls military and all other relevant agencies
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Aryan on October 24, 2021, 03:26:04 PM
Post by: Aryan on October 24, 2021, 03:26:04 PM
Hell no. Jewish pharma can lick my Aryan swingers.
I should've known.
Yes, you should.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Aryan on October 24, 2021, 03:27:10 PM
Post by: Aryan on October 24, 2021, 03:27:10 PM
I don't care what any of you say, vaccine passports are good policy.
Vaxx cuck huh? What a surprise.
A selfish spreader with no concern for anyone around him. I am not surprised either.
What am I spreading exactly, when I don't have Covid?
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 24, 2021, 03:27:50 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 24, 2021, 03:27:50 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 03:29:41 PM
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 03:29:41 PM
alabama has remained the least affected of all the southern states .......
I expected that
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2021, 03:52:51 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2021, 03:52:51 PM
I don't care what any of you say, vaccine passports are good policy.
Vaxx cuck huh? What a surprise.
A selfish spreader with no concern for anyone around him. I am not surprised either.
Their body, their choice. Get used to testing though if you're a conscientious objector.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Aryan on October 24, 2021, 03:54:14 PM
Post by: Aryan on October 24, 2021, 03:54:14 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2021, 04:11:41 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2021, 04:11:41 PM
Covid cucks are on par with Jews and libtards.
Scouse is scared of needles.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 04:13:48 PM
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 04:13:48 PM
I don't care what any of you say, vaccine passports are good policy.
Vaxx cuck huh? What a surprise.
A selfish spreader with no concern for anyone around him. I am not surprised either.
What am I spreading exactly, when I don't have Covid?
You need not keep demonstrating that you cannot think beyond the day you are in
That has been totally obvious from the gitgo .. and does not need reinforcing
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 05:39:22 PM
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 05:39:22 PM
I don't care what any of you say, vaccine passports are good policy.
Vaxx cuck huh? What a surprise.
A selfish spreader with no concern for anyone around him. I am not surprised either.
What am I spreading exactly, when I don't have Covid?
You need not keep demonstrating that you cannot think beyond the day you are in
We all got that from the gitgo
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 05:40:31 PM
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 05:40:31 PM
Covid cucks are on par with Jews and libtards.
Scouse is scared of needles.:laugh3:
He makes it obvious that he is afraid of just about everything
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 05:42:02 PM
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 05:42:02 PM
I don't care what any of you say, vaccine passports are good policy.
Vaxx cuck huh? What a surprise.
A selfish spreader with no concern for anyone around him. I am not surprised either.
Their body, their choice. Get used to testing though if you're a conscientious objector.
We'll see how that goes for them .. Still won't get them in a bar for a long time into the future
Some don't travel anywhere ... "some"
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 24, 2021, 06:52:50 PM
Post by: Frood on October 24, 2021, 06:52:50 PM
I don't care what any of you say, vaccine passports are good policy.
Yeah, but you're a fuckwit....so.....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2021, 07:49:12 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2021, 07:49:12 PM
I don't care what any of you say, vaccine passports are good policy.
Vaxx cuck huh? What a surprise.
A selfish spreader with no concern for anyone around him. I am not surprised either.
Their body, their choice. Get used to testing though if you're a conscientious objector.
We'll see how that goes for them .. Still won't get them in a bar for a long time into the future
Some don't travel anywhere ... "some"
Not internationally.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 24, 2021, 08:20:38 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 24, 2021, 08:20:38 PM
Don't start being a fuckhead again, Rotwang.....
My patience with the more retarded portions of your overall character has its limits.
Wooooooo....an implied threat from Freud???
Still think you're in Brawl Hall, dontcha short pants.
I look forward to extending beyond the limits of your patience, sunshine.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 08:23:53 PM
Post by: cc on October 24, 2021, 08:23:53 PM
Don't start being a fuckhead again, Rotwang.....
My patience with the more retarded portions of your overall character has its limits.
Wooooooo....an implied threat from Freud???
Still think you're in Brawl Hall, dontcha short pants.
I look forward to extending beyond the limits of your patience, sunshine.
ac_beating
This should be great fun
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 24, 2021, 08:30:06 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 24, 2021, 08:30:06 PM
But, we live in hope...
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2021, 08:40:40 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2021, 08:40:40 PM
Don't start being a fuckhead again, Rotwang.....
My patience with the more retarded portions of your overall character has its limits.
Wooooooo....an implied threat from Freud???
Still think you're in Brawl Hall, dontcha short pants.
I look forward to extending beyond the limits of your patience, sunshine.
ac_beating
This should be great fun
I'll make popcorn.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 24, 2021, 08:44:56 PM
Post by: Frood on October 24, 2021, 08:44:56 PM
Don't start being a fuckhead again, Rotwang.....
My patience with the more retarded portions of your overall character has its limits.
Wooooooo....an implied threat from Freud???
Still think you're in Brawl Hall, dontcha short pants.
I look forward to extending beyond the limits of your patience, sunshine.
ac_beating
This should be great fun
I'll make popcorn.
Just keep it away from the old geezer... it blocks him up and he's already full of shit.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 24, 2021, 09:04:36 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 24, 2021, 09:04:36 PM
alabama has remained the least affected of all the southern states .......
I expected that
i love alabama.... i hope we secede from the union again....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 24, 2021, 09:15:54 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 24, 2021, 09:15:54 PM
Just keep it away from the old geezer... it blocks him up and he's already full of shit.
And this, folks, is the sum total of the consequence of exceeding Freud's patience.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2021, 11:16:46 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2021, 11:16:46 PM
alabama has remained the least affected of all the southern states .......
I expected that
i love alabama.... i hope we secede from the union again....:laugh:
Can Saskatchewan join you. I want this province out of Canada.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 25, 2021, 12:55:32 AM
Post by: Frood on October 25, 2021, 12:55:32 AM
Just keep it away from the old geezer... it blocks him up and he's already full of shit.
And this, folks, is the sum total of the consequence of exceeding Freud's patience.
ac_boring
^^^ now the folks here at the Cashew will understand why Rotwang was a c grade player with more notoriety towards nagging female posters for nudes than really anything.
He wagged his tail like he was a big dog but he was never permitted to actually run with us and boy oh boy, his whimpering has never stopped.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 25, 2021, 02:28:35 AM
Post by: Bricktop on October 25, 2021, 02:28:35 AM
Not even psychedelic drugs and a serious mental breakdown will facilitate any member here believing that my ambition at Brawl Hall was to run with you and your girlfriends. Aux contraire, mon ami...it was my joy and pleasure to kick each one of you in the head on a regular basis by just raising my foot and saying "here, boy".
And here I am doing it all over again.
Embarrassed much?
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2021, 09:02:46 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2021, 09:02:46 AM
well.... the stage is set.... nothing left to do but define the terms and light it up....:laugh:
You really believe it will get lit up?
Maybe it will
i don't see a way around it.... they've all but 'declared war on conservatives' as it is.... common sense has been replaced with mass psychosis and theres no real justice in the court systems.... its at a genuine breaking point....
I've been apolitical most of my life, although I was a bit leftward because I believed the dogma of my public sector union management..
But, now I've been forced into politics as my family's livelihood and choices have come under attack..
'm now considered a
It's not about politics for me or my husband, it's about our family.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 25, 2021, 09:19:44 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 25, 2021, 09:19:44 AM
It's not about politics for me or my husband, it's about our family.Quote from: Fashionista post_id=424968 time=1635166966 user_id=3254
though i've always been conservative to a degree, i've never bothered with politics.... i never voted nor cared who got elected because politicians are all disgusting liars anyway.... i only care that the constitution remain intact seeing that its the only thing protecting us.... but now the integrity of elections has been compromised and our rights are being trampled as well.... i would love to go back to 'not caring about politics' but i believe there will be bloodshed before those days can return....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 25, 2021, 09:22:10 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 25, 2021, 09:22:10 AM
Can Saskatchewan join you. I want this province out of Canada.
come on down. we'd love to have ya.... but bring your own syrup unless you're fond of blackstrap molasses....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2021, 09:23:48 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2021, 09:23:48 AM
It's not about politics for me or my husband, it's about our family.Quote from: Fashionista post_id=424968 time=1635166966 user_id=3254
though i've always been conservative to a degree, i've never bothered with politics.... i never voted nor cared who got elected because politicians are all disgusting liars anyway.... i only care that the constitution remain intact seeing that its the only thing protecting us.... but now the integrity of elections has been compromised and our rights are being trampled as well.... i would love to go back to 'not caring about politics' but i believe there will be bloodshed before those days can return....
I never voted either, as my priority was my family and for politicians it's getting elected..
But, my husband have been pulled into the unethical world of Canadian politics against our will to protect our family's freedoms and interests..
Like you, we would love to go back to ignoring politics.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2021, 09:24:30 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2021, 09:24:30 AM
Can Saskatchewan join you. I want this province out of Canada.
come on down. we'd love to have ya.... but bring your own syrup unless you're fond of blackstrap molasses....:laugh:
The prairie provinces don't have maple trees....that's mostly Quebec and Ontario.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2021, 09:29:01 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2021, 09:29:01 AM
Covid cucks are on par with Jews and libtards.
What a brilliant post. Thanks for changing my mind. I was a fence sitting vaccine skeptic until you posted this solid data to put my other leg over into the no science allowed anti-vax camp. You missed your calling. You should have been an epidemiologist instead of an unskilled labourer.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 25, 2021, 10:17:27 AM
Post by: Frood on October 25, 2021, 10:17:27 AM
***whimper***
And here I am doing it all over again.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on October 25, 2021, 10:47:27 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 25, 2021, 10:47:27 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 25, 2021, 11:41:44 AM
Post by: cc on October 25, 2021, 11:41:44 AM
Covid cucks are on par with Jews and libtards.
What a brilliant post. Thanks for changing my mind. I was a fence sitting vaccine skeptic until you posted this solid data to put my other leg over into the no science allowed anti-vax camp. You missed your calling. You should have been an epidemiologist instead of an unskilled labourer.
A brilliant game changer, eh? All those years dark internetting in Mom's basement paid off bigtime
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 25, 2021, 07:55:34 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 25, 2021, 07:55:34 PM
alabama has remained the least affected of all the southern states .......
I expected that
i love alabama.... i hope we secede from the union again....:laugh:
What are the chances that State (it is a State, isn't it?) and others will walk away from the disunited States?
There is clearly a growing sentiment world wide that is questioning these paper Federations...including Australia. The Covid debacle vividly highlighted how useless having a federal government as well as State and local councils really is.
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Post by: cc on October 25, 2021, 09:04:21 PM
Post by: cc on October 25, 2021, 09:04:21 PM
Even if all was okeedokee happy happy, any state (or provinces) could instantly change the game for its neighbors .. "sorry mate, no entry" .. or "guess what entry will now cost ya"
Just hypothesizing potential pitfalls
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Post by: Bricktop on October 25, 2021, 11:16:59 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 25, 2021, 11:16:59 PM
Sovereign nations or states can quite easily manage access and entry, exactly as they do now. But that is the thin edge of the wedge. Here in the dry expanse of Australia, a crucial issue is water. Despite our massive land size, access to fresh water can be problematic, and our State in particular is dependent on upstream States (BOTH of them) maintaining water flow. Damning the Murray River to reduce or eliminate water flow to South Australia has frequently been raised by politicians in New South Wales and less so Victoria.
The sentiment here is that we'd be better off abolishing States and living under a single government. But as usual, the Constitution (written in the 19th century) is a roadblock, because to achieve that we'd need a referendum which would effectively require States to abolish themselves (to pass, a referendum must receive more than 70% "for" votes AND a majority of States).
Australia is disastrously over governed. Even Freud and I would agree on that.
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Post by: deadskinmask on October 26, 2021, 09:44:49 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on October 26, 2021, 09:44:49 AM
What are the chances that State (it is a State, isn't it?) and others will walk away from the disunited States?Quote from: Bricktop post_id=425019 time=1635206134 user_id=1560
truthfully, i dunno the chances.... i know in my general area the overwhelming consensus is a resounding 'YES, GET THE HELL AWAY FROM THESE LUNATICS'.... the problem is that alot of america seem to believe that this is just about 'vaccines and mandates' but its so much more than that.... i'm not even sure that secession wouldn't bring just as many problems.... like cc pointed out, theres many a slip between the cup and the lip.... i know that my country is in absolute turmoil and i know that we won't survive three more years of this utter garbage and nonsensical policy.... i know little else apart from that though....
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Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2021, 01:26:37 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2021, 01:26:37 PM
vaxxed or unvaxxed, its imperative that we all remember - our fight is not with each other. our fight is against despotism, communism, big tech and big pharma.... thats the hand that shakes the jar....
precisely
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Post by: Bricktop on October 26, 2021, 05:29:18 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 26, 2021, 05:29:18 PM
truthfully, i dunno the chances.... i know in my general area the overwhelming consensus is a resounding 'YES, GET THE HELL AWAY FROM THESE LUNATICS'.... the problem is that alot of america seem to believe that this is just about 'vaccines and mandates' but its so much more than that.... i'm not even sure that secession wouldn't bring just as many problems.... like cc pointed out, theres many a slip between the cup and the lip.... i know that my country is in absolute turmoil and i know that we won't survive three more years of this utter garbage and nonsensical policy.... i know little else apart from that though....
History may repeat.
What are the possibilities that a bloc of States will break away?
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Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2021, 05:54:19 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2021, 05:54:19 PM
truthfully, i dunno the chances.... i know in my general area the overwhelming consensus is a resounding 'YES, GET THE HELL AWAY FROM THESE LUNATICS'.... the problem is that alot of america seem to believe that this is just about 'vaccines and mandates' but its so much more than that.... i'm not even sure that secession wouldn't bring just as many problems.... like cc pointed out, theres many a slip between the cup and the lip.... i know that my country is in absolute turmoil and i know that we won't survive three more years of this utter garbage and nonsensical policy.... i know little else apart from that though....
History may repeat.
What are the possibilities that a bloc of States will break away?
About the same that Western Canada will secede. In other words zero chance. I'm not opposed to secession, but Ottawa and Washington are less willing to part with land and taxes than Beijing is to just let Xinjaing go.
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Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2021, 06:09:43 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2021, 06:09:43 PM
truthfully, i dunno the chances.... i know in my general area the overwhelming consensus is a resounding 'YES, GET THE HELL AWAY FROM THESE LUNATICS'.... the problem is that alot of america seem to believe that this is just about 'vaccines and mandates' but its so much more than that.... i'm not even sure that secession wouldn't bring just as many problems.... like cc pointed out, theres many a slip between the cup and the lip.... i know that my country is in absolute turmoil and i know that we won't survive three more years of this utter garbage and nonsensical policy.... i know little else apart from that though....
History may repeat.
What are the possibilities that a bloc of States will break away?
About the same that Western Canada will secede. In other words zero chance. I'm not opposed to secession, but Ottawa and Washington are less willing to part with land and taxes than Beijing is to just let Xinjaing go.
There really isn't an organized separatist movement in Alberta..
I believe Alaska has an independence movement, but I don't know about other states.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2021, 07:45:36 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2021, 07:45:36 PM
Just keep it away from the old geezer... it blocks him up and he's already full of shit.
And this, folks, is the sum total of the consequence of exceeding Freud's patience.
ac_boring
This is a pleasant surprise. Hello Bricktop.
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Post by: Bricktop on October 26, 2021, 10:46:20 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 26, 2021, 10:46:20 PM
Hope you're well.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 27, 2021, 06:14:51 AM
Post by: Frood on October 27, 2021, 06:14:51 AM
truthfully, i dunno the chances.... i know in my general area the overwhelming consensus is a resounding 'YES, GET THE HELL AWAY FROM THESE LUNATICS'.... the problem is that alot of america seem to believe that this is just about 'vaccines and mandates' but its so much more than that.... i'm not even sure that secession wouldn't bring just as many problems.... like cc pointed out, theres many a slip between the cup and the lip.... i know that my country is in absolute turmoil and i know that we won't survive three more years of this utter garbage and nonsensical policy.... i know little else apart from that though....
History may repeat.
What are the possibilities that a bloc of States will break away?
About the same that Western Canada will secede. In other words zero chance. I'm not opposed to secession, but Ottawa and Washington are less willing to part with land and taxes than Beijing is to just let Xinjaing go.
There really isn't an organized separatist movement in Alberta..
I believe Alaska has an independence movement, but I don't know about other states.
Eastern Washington State counties want to join Idaho... Texas wants to totally leave the Union.... Western Maryland counties and others want to join West Virginia, New Hampshire wants everyone to eat their arse with a spoon...
Even border areas of Canada want to sign up with the USA.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 27, 2021, 11:59:30 AM
Post by: cc on October 27, 2021, 11:59:30 AM
You need learn something. "want to's" don't go anywhere, no more than farts in windstorms
So far, there's nothing with any meat on the bone in N America
I guess you are just waiting to address the OP .. teasing us before the kill shot
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Post by: Anonymous on October 27, 2021, 12:37:49 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 27, 2021, 12:37:49 PM
While I'd love to see our entire West an entity of it's own, even at one time "possibly" join US .. but not now what with the prog crazy the US has become
You need learn something. "want to's" don't go anywhere, no more than farts in windstormsSo far, there's nothing with any meat on the bone in N America
I guess you are just waiting to address the OP .. teasing us before the kill shot:wink:
With the exception of Quebec, that is true.
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Post by: cc on October 27, 2021, 01:01:44 PM
Post by: cc on October 27, 2021, 01:01:44 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 27, 2021, 01:04:54 PM
Post by: cc on October 27, 2021, 01:04:54 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 27, 2021, 02:28:47 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 27, 2021, 02:28:47 PM
While I'd love to see our entire West an entity of it's own, even at one time "possibly" join US .. but not now what with the prog crazy the US has become
You need learn something. "want to's" don't go anywhere, no more than farts in windstormsSo far, there's nothing with any meat on the bone in N America
I guess you are just waiting to address the OP .. teasing us before the kill shot:wink:
With the exception of Quebec, that is true.
Quebec aint serious. Their separatist movement is all about extorting money from the rest of Canada.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Aryan on October 28, 2021, 02:27:51 PM
Post by: Aryan on October 28, 2021, 02:27:51 PM
Covid cucks are on par with Jews and libtards.
What a brilliant post. Thanks for changing my mind. I was a fence sitting vaccine skeptic until you posted this solid data to put my other leg over into the no science allowed anti-vax camp. You missed your calling. You should have been an epidemiologist instead of an unskilled labourer.
Which part of fuck off back to Korea do you fail to comprehend, you pretentious, dog-eating twat?
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 02:54:54 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 02:54:54 PM
Covid cucks are on par with Jews and libtards.
What a brilliant post. Thanks for changing my mind. I was a fence sitting vaccine skeptic until you posted this solid data to put my other leg over into the no science allowed anti-vax camp. You missed your calling. You should have been an epidemiologist instead of an unskilled labourer.
Which part of fuck off back to Korea do you fail to comprehend, you pretentious, dog-eating twat?
You follow up one mind excellent post with another. You are on a hot streak.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 28, 2021, 03:13:42 PM
Post by: cc on October 28, 2021, 03:13:42 PM
He'll fk it up with a kindergarten level meme or a Mom's basement video soon enough
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 03:15:09 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 03:15:09 PM
Don't get hopes up
He'll fk it up with a kindergarten level meme or a Mom's basement video basement video soon enough
You mean his post was not kindergarten level.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Aryan on October 28, 2021, 04:59:22 PM
Post by: Aryan on October 28, 2021, 04:59:22 PM
Covid cucks are on par with Jews and libtards.
What a brilliant post. Thanks for changing my mind. I was a fence sitting vaccine skeptic until you posted this solid data to put my other leg over into the no science allowed anti-vax camp. You missed your calling. You should have been an epidemiologist instead of an unskilled labourer.
Which part of fuck off back to Korea do you fail to comprehend, you pretentious, dog-eating twat?
You follow up one mind excellent post with another. You are on a hot streak.
You on the whisky again?
You must have fallen off the wagon more times than Fashionista has had kitten fried rice for lunch.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 28, 2021, 06:55:47 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 28, 2021, 06:55:47 PM
I hope to resume plans for a trip to the Motherland next year. What's your expectation of the state of play re covid restrictions around mid next year? Is the UK calming down or still in the grip of madness for the foreseeable future?
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Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 07:52:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 07:52:00 PM
With 99.7% of adults in the Irish county of Waterford having received the COVID shots, they have the highest per-capita case rate of COVID anywhere in the country. Are they now going to suggest it's the fault of the 0.3%?!
The Irish Times reported last week that with one Waterford city district at a 14-day incidence rate of 1,486 cases per 100,000 of the population, Waterford has the highest incidence rate of anywhere in Ireland. The COVID case rate is three times the national average, which in itself has been increasing steadily in recent weeks, despite 91% of Irish adults being vaccinated. However, Waterford takes the cake.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 07:52:47 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 07:52:47 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 28, 2021, 08:16:44 PM
Post by: cc on October 28, 2021, 08:16:44 PM
they must have really opened things up, unaware that protection reduces over time - especially so for those done early
Wowzers - Their death / case rate even blows UK & Israel outa the water ... and it's from the gitgo, not just lately when we know better how to treat cases .. and where I usually do comparisons from .... although cases are recent -
0.19% or 1 in every 516 cases ... that's way beyond exceptional
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Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 08:31:38 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 08:31:38 PM
Saw that a while ago. Not sure of authenticity although it checks with today's numbers
Wowzers - Their death / case rate even blows UK & Israel outa the water ... and it's from the gitgo, not just lately when we know better how to treat cases .. and where I usually do comparisons from .... although cases are recent -
they must have really opened things up, unaware that protection reduces over time
0.19% or 1 in every 516 cases
You mean Singapore..
Yes, they have a very low death rate even though their highly vaccinate population is experiencing a spike in cases.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 28, 2021, 08:48:44 PM
Post by: cc on October 28, 2021, 08:48:44 PM
Saw that a while ago. Not sure of authenticity although it checks with today's numbers
Wowzers - Their death / case rate even blows UK & Israel outa the water ... and it's from the gitgo, not just lately when we know better how to treat cases .. and where I usually do comparisons from .... although cases are recent -
they must have really opened things up, unaware that protection reduces over time
0.19% or 1 in every 516 cases
You mean Singapore..
Yes, they have a very low death rate even though their highly vaccinate population is experiencing a spike in cases.
Did they get shots very early? And if so, I'd be interested to know if they have used 3rd shots much
I'll try to find % of vaxxed vs unvaxxed in cases .. it all being relevant to "when" shots were given
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 08:54:07 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 08:54:07 PM
Saw that a while ago. Not sure of authenticity although it checks with today's numbers
Wowzers - Their death / case rate even blows UK & Israel outa the water ... and it's from the gitgo, not just lately when we know better how to treat cases .. and where I usually do comparisons from .... although cases are recent -
they must have really opened things up, unaware that protection reduces over time
0.19% or 1 in every 516 cases
You mean Singapore..
Yes, they have a very low death rate even though their highly vaccinate population is experiencing a spike in cases.
Did they get shots very early? And if so, I'd be interested to know if they have used 3rd shots much
I'll try to find % of vaxxed vs unvaxxed in cases .. it all being relevant to "when" shots were given
No Asian country was early..
I read they are only offering a third dose to about 140,000 seniors so far.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 28, 2021, 08:58:55 PM
Post by: cc on October 28, 2021, 08:58:55 PM
I did find references "decided to open all & just live with it"
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 08:59:53 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 08:59:53 PM
Covid cucks are on par with Jews and libtards.
What a brilliant post. Thanks for changing my mind. I was a fence sitting vaccine skeptic until you posted this solid data to put my other leg over into the no science allowed anti-vax camp. You missed your calling. You should have been an epidemiologist instead of an unskilled labourer.
Which part of fuck off back to Korea do you fail to comprehend, you pretentious, dog-eating twat?
You follow up one mind excellent post with another. You are on a hot streak.
You on the whisky again?
You must have fallen off the wagon more times than Fashionista has had kitten fried rice for lunch.
I never touch a drop. Are you on the cocaine again? Do a few rails for breakfast junkie? You should try sobriety once in a while. You might even go a whole day without dreaming of dead gay dictators in drag.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 28, 2021, 09:02:40 PM
Post by: cc on October 28, 2021, 09:02:40 PM
I checked back & he posted his crap with no provocation at all
Covid cucks are on par with Jews and libtards.Quote from: "Dumfk "
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 09:08:07 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 09:08:07 PM
Whatever possessed the Dumfk to post such drivel in this thread ... Damn he is thick
I checked back & he posted his crap with no provocation at allCovid cucks are on par with Jews and libtards.Quote
Unbelievable isn't it. A butthurt middle aged retard. He is Sea Dunce junior.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 09:24:18 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 09:24:18 PM
Whatever possessed the Dumfk to post his usual drivel in this thread ... Damn he is thick
I checked back & he posted his crap with no provocation at allCovid cucks are on par with Jews and libtards.Quote from: "Dumfk "
He is angry at IHJ apparently..
He obviously didn't have an oh wait moment before he posted his rant about IHJ.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 28, 2021, 10:50:01 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 28, 2021, 10:50:01 PM
You on the whisky again?
Are you talking to me?
If so, mine's an Ardbeg. Ta.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 11:06:45 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2021, 11:06:45 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2021, 11:08:18 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2021, 11:08:18 AM
The number of people hospitalized with COVID-19 in Saskatchewan also fell by 11 to 260 on Thursday, which includes 58 people in ICU. Out of these patients, more than 71 per cent were not fully vaccinated.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 29, 2021, 11:14:57 AM
Post by: Frood on October 29, 2021, 11:14:57 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2021, 11:18:34 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2021, 11:18:34 AM
Yeah... I believe that....
So do I.....even though it was actual data and not a meme.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 29, 2021, 11:23:57 AM
Post by: Frood on October 29, 2021, 11:23:57 AM
Yeah... I believe that....
So do I.....even though it was actual data and not a meme.
I was being facetious...
The official data sucks balls through a garden hose.
I worry about you and all the rest who accept official gov data on covid and the experimental jabs...
But you're not my kid and who am I to point that you're running with scissors and a bucket of hydrochloric acid....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 29, 2021, 11:35:31 AM
Post by: cc on October 29, 2021, 11:35:31 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2021, 11:46:59 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2021, 11:46:59 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2021, 06:17:55 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2021, 06:17:55 PM
Yeah... I believe that....
Only an idiot wouldn't.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on October 29, 2021, 10:55:56 PM
Post by: Frood on October 29, 2021, 10:55:56 PM
Yeah... I believe that....
Only an idiot wouldn't.
Dupe sez wut?
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Aryan on October 30, 2021, 03:30:54 PM
Post by: Aryan on October 30, 2021, 03:30:54 PM
You on the whisky again?
Are you talking to me?
If so, mine's an Ardbeg. Ta.(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.whiskys.co.uk%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F01%2FIY-Ardbeg-Comm-SN2015-170x170.jpg&f=1&nofb=1%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://external-content.duckduckgo.com%20...%20f=1&nofb=1%22%3Ehttps://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.whiskys.co.uk%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F01%2FIY-Ardbeg-Comm-SN2015-170x170.jpg&f=1&nofb=1%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
I know it's against your religion and everything, but why don't you swallow your pride and drop in on BF? All the old crowd is there and it's heaps busier than this snorefest.
I've recently made it a hobby of mine to bash King Mongtini's bloated head around like a beachball whenever it surfaces, yet the persistent fucker always returns after taking a break to lick his wounds.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on October 30, 2021, 06:49:58 PM
Post by: cc on October 30, 2021, 06:49:58 PM
I posted data because that is what this thread was intended to be about. Not memes nor Scouse's incoherent, rambling, tear-filled melties.
So much for that. He can't stop himself
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 31, 2021, 03:34:08 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 31, 2021, 03:34:08 PM
I posted data because that is what this thread was intended to be about. Not memes nor Scouse's incoherent, rambling, tear-filled melties.
So much for that. He can't stop himself
That's obvious.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on October 31, 2021, 07:55:57 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 31, 2021, 07:55:57 PM
I know it's against your religion and everything, but why don't you swallow your pride and drop in on BF? All the old crowd is there and it's heaps busier than this snorefest.
I've recently made it a hobby of mine to bash King Mongtini's bloated head around like a beachball whenever it surfaces, yet the persistent fucker always returns after taking a break to lick his wounds.
I've abandoned religion. I asked for altar wine to be replaced by altar whisky but they refused.
Neglecting BF was not so much a matter of pride as it was tedium. Declaring Martini a member there is not what I'd call good recruitment policy.
What a dick. Or persistent dick, if you will.
I may drop in for a brief visit. Incognito.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 31, 2021, 08:15:10 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 31, 2021, 08:15:10 PM
I know it's against your religion and everything, but why don't you swallow your pride and drop in on BF? All the old crowd is there and it's heaps busier than this snorefest.
I've recently made it a hobby of mine to bash King Mongtini's bloated head around like a beachball whenever it surfaces, yet the persistent fucker always returns after taking a break to lick his wounds.
I've abandoned religion. I asked for altar wine to be replaced by altar whisky but they refused.
Neglecting BF was not so much a matter of pride as it was tedium. Declaring Martini a member there is not what I'd call good recruitment policy.
What a dick. Or persistent dick, if you will.
I may drop in for a brief visit. Incognito.:8brw3y9:
I'm a member of BF..
The picture SCOUSE paints of that place exists only in his head..
It's SG meets CBT..
The same silly nonsense by the same aging trolls who can't let go of the past..
You have a brain, so you won't fit in there.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 31, 2021, 08:18:36 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 31, 2021, 08:18:36 PM
And we have eighty per cent of the population fully vaccinated.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 31, 2021, 08:48:04 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 31, 2021, 08:48:04 PM
I know it's against your religion and everything, but why don't you swallow your pride and drop in on BF? All the old crowd is there and it's heaps busier than this snorefest.
I've recently made it a hobby of mine to bash King Mongtini's bloated head around like a beachball whenever it surfaces, yet the persistent fucker always returns after taking a break to lick his wounds.
I've abandoned religion. I asked for altar wine to be replaced by altar whisky but they refused.
Neglecting BF was not so much a matter of pride as it was tedium. Declaring Martini a member there is not what I'd call good recruitment policy.
What a dick. Or persistent dick, if you will.
I may drop in for a brief visit. Incognito.:8brw3y9:
Martini is definitely not a recruitment tool. Scouse aint either. I would imagine it is like SG. That place got so lame quickly. The same idiots posting the same insults every single day. Nobody knew how to debate an issue either. That was the CBT contribution.
If you do drop in I aint joining ya. It offers no appeal and it aint worth my time.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 31, 2021, 09:03:47 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 31, 2021, 09:03:47 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on October 31, 2021, 09:12:20 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 31, 2021, 09:12:20 PM
Oh Herman, your friend Flynn is there and he's still pretending to be a young female.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on November 01, 2021, 08:56:55 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 01, 2021, 08:56:55 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on November 01, 2021, 08:54:43 PM
Post by: Bricktop on November 01, 2021, 08:54:43 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on November 01, 2021, 08:56:55 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 01, 2021, 08:56:55 PM
But I bet all her work colleagues now have to be tested and quarantined.
I'm sure they have.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2021, 08:53:19 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2021, 08:53:19 PM
"The pandemic is far from over," said Spahn, a member of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU). "We are currently experiencing a pandemic of the unvaccinated, which is massive. There would be fewer coronavirus patients on intensive care units if more people would let themselves be vaccinated."
In the last week several German clinics have raised alarm about rising numbers of patients with Covid-19 on the wards. On Wednesday authorities reported 2,220 patients in intensive care beds, the highest number since the start of June.
Over the last seven days 666 people have died from the virus in Germany, slightly more than in the same week a year ago, before the start of the vaccination drive and the arrival of the more infectious Delta variant. For now the number of fatalities is rising less steeply than it did during the previous three coronavirus waves in the country.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on November 06, 2021, 08:58:19 PM
Post by: cc on November 06, 2021, 08:58:19 PM
I played with an older BC's weekly figures and finally figured how to update it regularly
Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Oct. 28 to Nov. 3) Total 3,351 Cases
Not vaccinated: 254.8
Partially vaccinated: 62.3
Fully vaccinated: 27.0
Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Oct. 21 to Nov. 3)
Not vaccinated: 56.9
Partially vaccinated: 16.0
Fully vaccinated: 2.9
Now that I have figured how to update site In future I will now be able to do each week instead of replaying the older one
I think I can do it daily now that I have figured how to update it
And this is all the data direct from BC Health - vs. news sites I was using for BC
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on November 06, 2021, 09:51:21 PM
Post by: cc on November 06, 2021, 09:51:21 PM
Italy & France rising, but so far not fast like Germany .. UK was high for quite a while & dropped a bit last 2 weeks
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on November 07, 2021, 09:56:28 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 07, 2021, 09:56:28 AM
Here's yesterday's results for past week direct from BC Health itself
I played with an older BC's weekly figures and finally figured how to update it regularlyThese are up to date
Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Oct. 28 to Nov. 3) Total 3,351 Cases
Not vaccinated: 254.8
Partially vaccinated: 62.3
Fully vaccinated: 27.0
Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Oct. 21 to Nov. 3)
Not vaccinated: 56.9
Partially vaccinated: 16.0
Fully vaccinated: 2.9
Now that I have figured how to update site In future I will now be able to do each week instead of replaying the older one
I think I can do it daily now that I have figured how to update it
And this is all the data direct from BC Health - vs. news sites I was using for BChttps://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2021HLTH0069-002115
But, vaccines are killers.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on November 07, 2021, 01:05:32 PM
Post by: cc on November 07, 2021, 01:05:32 PM
Here's yesterday's results for past week direct from BC Health itself
I played with an older BC's weekly figures and finally figured how to update it regularlyThese are up to date
Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Oct. 28 to Nov. 3) Total 3,351 Cases
Not vaccinated: 254.8
Partially vaccinated: 62.3
Fully vaccinated: 27.0
Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Oct. 21 to Nov. 3)
Not vaccinated: 56.9
Partially vaccinated: 16.0
Fully vaccinated: 2.9
Now that I have figured how to update site In future I will now be able to do each week instead of replaying the older one
I think I can do it daily now that I have figured how to update it
And this is all the data direct from BC Health - vs. news sites I was using for BChttps://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2021HLTH0069-002115
But, vaccines are killers.:tease:
That is consistently definitive.
While it speaks for BC alone, there is zero logical reason to think it would be different in any other location with similar vaccination levels
and similar degree of risk taking. BC is very much opened up in fact.
Further, over time the ratios remain consistent, defying propaganda that claims otherwise.
Speaking of the propaganda, it progressively is becoming more semi-professional looking. I'm noticing sites I used for many years for info have turned ant-vax and are now promoting low level information .. glomming onto anything that appears to support that vein of thinking.
Seems many of those who so strongly supported Trump's amazing achievements in moving rapidly toward successful vaccines have become anti now.
A classic example is Epoch Times which has done a full-bore 180 now that T is not in power and now seem possessed / on a mission to dun what they before election supported enthusiastically. Seems they are now on a mission. It turned 180 so fast it's a wonder it didn't break its neck
Vaccine has become a political football used by both sides to beat up each other - all sides flipping 180 degrees after election day
Fox who supported T's vaccine efforts 100 per ++++++ have turned 180 of late .. several show stars are now sickeningly antivaxx & anti regulations .. the very same people who backed and praise T's efforts to speed up vaccines .. and in fact, we would not have them yet but for T ... biggest fear monger is the libertarian Carlson who became obsessed with it .. but others are guilty of 180 turnabout also
I have been saddened
This why I like raw data like this direct from the source and often post BC Health's data ... before it can be slanted to portray what someone wants it to portray
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on November 07, 2021, 10:53:46 PM
Post by: Frood on November 07, 2021, 10:53:46 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on November 07, 2021, 11:10:01 PM
Post by: Bricktop on November 07, 2021, 11:10:01 PM
I have been saddened:sad: to have to recognize that It's not just one side that is political in everything .. and especially vaccines so touted by them have flipped to become poison to the right & libertarian organizations .. very disappointing as it's all politics and not science (which gets distorted to suit).
This is the world we live in. If one side of the Great Divide says the sky is green, the other side will default to red. Consensus is no longer an option.
If black is white, then white is blue. At every level dispute and opposition are the new playing cards. Hatred and adversity are the norm.
This is where the perverted form of democracy we live under has brought us. As I have said elsewhere, either we find a solution or find ourselves members of one extremism or the other. Middle ground will no longer exist.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on November 08, 2021, 12:47:42 AM
Post by: Frood on November 08, 2021, 12:47:42 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on November 08, 2021, 03:14:07 AM
Post by: Frood on November 08, 2021, 03:14:07 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on November 08, 2021, 03:27:42 AM
Post by: Frood on November 08, 2021, 03:27:42 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on November 08, 2021, 05:08:27 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 08, 2021, 05:08:27 AM
Here's yesterday's results for past week direct from BC Health itself
I played with an older BC's weekly figures and finally figured how to update it regularlyThese are up to date
Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Oct. 28 to Nov. 3) Total 3,351 Cases
Not vaccinated: 254.8
Partially vaccinated: 62.3
Fully vaccinated: 27.0
Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Oct. 21 to Nov. 3)
Not vaccinated: 56.9
Partially vaccinated: 16.0
Fully vaccinated: 2.9
Now that I have figured how to update site In future I will now be able to do each week instead of replaying the older one
I think I can do it daily now that I have figured how to update it
And this is all the data direct from BC Health - vs. news sites I was using for BChttps://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2021HLTH0069-002115
But, vaccines are killers.:tease:
That is consistently definitive.ac_smile
While it speaks for BC alone, there is zero logical reason to think it would be different in any other location with similar vaccination levels
and similar degree of risk taking. BC is very much opened up in fact.
Further, over time the ratios remain consistent, defying propaganda that claims otherwise.
Speaking of the propaganda, it progressively is becoming more semi-professional looking. I'm noticing sites I used for many years for info have turned ant-vax and are now promoting low level information .. glomming onto anything that appears to support that vein of thinking.
Seems many of those who so strongly supported Trump's amazing achievements in moving rapidly toward successful vaccines have become anti now.A classic example is Epoch Times which has done a full-bore 180 now that T is not in power and now seem possessed / on a mission to dun what they before election supported enthusiastically. Seems they are now on a mission. It turned 180 so fast it's a wonder it didn't break its neckac_smile . It's so prolific on its site that I no longer load it, shut off notifications and will cancel subscription at term end of the very site I promoted here a cpl of years ago
Vaccine has become a political football used by both sides to beat up each other - all sides flipping 180 degrees after election day
Fox who supported T's vaccine efforts 100 per ++++++ have turned 180 of late .. several show stars are now sickeningly antivaxx & anti regulations .. the very same people who backed and praise T's efforts to speed up vaccines .. and in fact, we would not have them yet but for T ... biggest fear monger is the libertarian Carlson who became obsessed with it .. but others are guilty of 180 turnabout also
I have been saddened:sad: to have to recognize that It's not just one side that is political in everything .. and especially vaccines so touted by them have flipped to become poison to the right & libertarian organizations .. very disappointing as it's all politics and not science (which gets distorted to suit).
This why I like raw data like this direct from the source and often post BC Health's data ... before it can be slanted to portray what someone wants it to portray
Seoul mentioned this in a pm.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on November 08, 2021, 05:43:17 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 08, 2021, 05:43:17 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on November 08, 2021, 06:26:56 AM
Post by: Frood on November 08, 2021, 06:26:56 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on November 08, 2021, 06:38:36 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 08, 2021, 06:38:36 AM
:001_rolleyes:
Post some real data and prove Seoul wrong..
That's what he's been asking for in this thread, but none of the anti vaxxers have accepted his challenge.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on November 08, 2021, 08:48:35 AM
Post by: Frood on November 08, 2021, 08:48:35 AM
Or don't watch.... idgaf...
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on November 08, 2021, 09:29:55 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 08, 2021, 09:29:55 AM
Watch the videos.... the real data points my way, not yours...
Or don't watch.... idgaf...
Read the thread title. No videos or memes. You can't back up your idiotic anti science claims that vaccines are harmful because there is no data to support your stupidity. None, zero nada. If there was you would have posted it.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on November 08, 2021, 12:14:08 PM
Post by: cc on November 08, 2021, 12:14:08 PM
.......You can't back up your idiotic anti science claims that vaccines are harmful because there is no data to support your stupidity. None, zero nada. If there was you would have posted it.
Are you telling me that bottom feeders in stolen Doctor's white top coats blabbering on are making up their speech?
I'm shocked ... shocked I say!!!
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on November 08, 2021, 12:17:42 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 08, 2021, 12:17:42 PM
.......You can't back up your idiotic anti science claims that vaccines are harmful because there is no data to support your stupidity. None, zero nada. If there was you would have posted it.
Are you telling me that bottom feeders in stolen Doctor's top coats blabbering on are making up their speech?
I'm shocked ... shocked I say!!!
No data yet. They lose.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on November 08, 2021, 01:10:03 PM
Post by: cc on November 08, 2021, 01:10:03 PM
we have a local example of their stupidity and self-destructive mindset
'Incredibly disheartening': Football league president responds to anti-vaxxers at Chilliwack game
"We feel that a sporting event for 10-year-olds is not the place for a political statement," David Rooney, president of the Valley Community Football League (VCFL) wrote in a statement to The Chilliwack Progress.
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Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on November 08, 2021, 03:17:43 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 08, 2021, 03:17:43 PM
As though protesting (or whatever they were doing) at hospitals so as to block entry to hospitals, insult and harass the heroes who have given their all for 1 1/2 years wasn't enough for these critters ...
we have a local example of their stupidity and self-destructive mindsetAnti-vaxxers push past security at 10 year-olds football game in Chilliwack(//https)
'Incredibly disheartening': Football league president responds to anti-vaxxers at Chilliwack game'A sporting event for 10-year-oldsis not the place for a political statement,'
"We feel that a sporting event for 10-year-olds is not the place for a political statement," David Rooney, president of the Valley Community Football League (VCFL) wrote in a statement to The Chilliwack Progress.
[There are no limits on how far these self-centered twatwhaffles will go - and they seem not bright enough (and / or are too obsessed) to figure out how to help their cause vs. how to hurt their cause]
I don't agree with any protest that prevents emergency services from doing their jobs..
It doesn't matter if it's hysterical climate extremists or hysterical anti vaxxers.......stop it.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on November 08, 2021, 05:35:45 PM
Post by: Frood on November 08, 2021, 05:35:45 PM
Watch the videos.... the real data points my way, not yours...
Or don't watch.... idgaf...
Read the thread title. No videos or memes. You can't back up your idiotic anti science claims that vaccines are harmful because there is no data to support your stupidity. None, zero nada. If there was you would have posted it.
Ok, Choo Choo Boy....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on November 08, 2021, 05:47:27 PM
Post by: cc on November 08, 2021, 05:47:27 PM
Stick to what you guys do best .. block hospitals from helping save your unvaxxed heroes from dying & scaring 10 year-olds at football games with screaming protests
Maybe up your game a notch & charge en masse into Kindergartens???
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on November 08, 2021, 05:59:40 PM
Post by: Frood on November 08, 2021, 05:59:40 PM
You're blinded to the real data because of your Stockholm Syndrome, you crazy covid kill shot cultist..
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on November 11, 2021, 06:10:25 PM
Post by: cc on November 11, 2021, 06:10:25 PM
I doubt these antivaxxers are good people who even deserve a place in society - Convince me otherwise ...
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on November 11, 2021, 06:27:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 11, 2021, 06:27:00 PM
Blocking Hospital workers & emergency patents ... scaring 10 yearolds at football games was not enough for our dear antivaxxersToday at 11:00 AM in Kelona BC at the ceremony- Antivaxxers forcefully took over the mike and whined / spat their venom
I doubt these antivaxxers are good people who even deserve a place in society - Convince me otherwise ...
I don't agree with any protests that prevent people from going about their daily lives..
That's climate fanatics to antivaxxer extremists.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on November 11, 2021, 07:09:46 PM
Post by: cc on November 11, 2021, 07:09:46 PM
In the above case, worse than their usual protests, antivaxx sub-humans pushed their way to the mike and took it by force at 11 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on November 11, 2021, 07:37:22 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 11, 2021, 07:37:22 PM
I agree. I do not think anyone has the right to even stop people from commuting .. often to earn a living
In the above case, worse than their usual protests, antivaxx sub-humans pushed their way to the mike and took it by force at 11 AM
I think was Extinction Rebellion in London, UK bocked raods preventing emergency vehicles from saving people's lives.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on November 11, 2021, 07:55:34 PM
Post by: cc on November 11, 2021, 07:55:34 PM
OH, and Kamloops BC also - How did was she / he in both places a (2 hour drive) at the same time??? .. assuming there cannot be more that 1 such stupid people in BC
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2021, 01:04:58 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2021, 01:04:58 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2021, 07:43:36 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2021, 07:43:36 PM
Of the 444 non-ICU, 73.4% are unvaccinated or partially vaccinated..
Of the 110 in ICU, 83.6% are unvaccinated or partially vaccinated.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2021, 07:45:44 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2021, 07:45:44 PM
The uploader has not made this video available in your country.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on November 13, 2021, 06:01:10 PM
Post by: cc on November 13, 2021, 06:01:10 PM
BC Totals per 100,000 population as of Thursday
Past week,
Not vaccinated: 255.0
Fully vaccinated: 31.4
Past two weeks, cases
Not vaccinated: 47.4
Fully vaccinated: 2.6
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on November 13, 2021, 06:14:17 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 13, 2021, 06:14:17 PM
This seems pretty conclusive RE: OP request (thot I had just posted, but maybe miscued as I can't find it)
BC Totals per 100,000 population as of Thursday
Past week,casesper 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Nov. 4-10)
Not vaccinated: 255.0
Fully vaccinated: 31.4
Past two weeks, caseshospitalizedper 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Oct. 28 to Nov. 10)
Not vaccinated: 47.4
Fully vaccinated: 2.6https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2021HLTH0071-002165
I wish there were hospitalization and ICU stats for the recovered.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on November 13, 2021, 08:02:03 PM
Post by: cc on November 13, 2021, 08:02:03 PM
This seems pretty conclusive RE: OP request (thot I had just posted, but maybe miscued as I can't find it)
BC Totals per 100,000 population as of Thursday
Past week,casesper 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Nov. 4-10)
Not vaccinated: 255.0
Fully vaccinated: 31.4
Past two weeks, caseshospitalizedper 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Oct. 28 to Nov. 10)
Not vaccinated: 47.4
Fully vaccinated: 2.6https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2021HLTH0071-002165 (I'm assuming others are somewhat similar)
I wish there were hospitalization and ICU stats for the recovered.
That's going to the next level and I have seen nothing on it
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on November 13, 2021, 09:13:12 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 13, 2021, 09:13:12 PM
This seems pretty conclusive RE: OP request (thot I had just posted, but maybe miscued as I can't find it)
BC Totals per 100,000 population as of Thursday
Past week,casesper 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Nov. 4-10)
Not vaccinated: 255.0
Fully vaccinated: 31.4
Past two weeks, caseshospitalizedper 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Oct. 28 to Nov. 10)
Not vaccinated: 47.4
Fully vaccinated: 2.6https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2021HLTH0071-002165
I wish there were hospitalization and ICU stats for the recovered.
Seoul agrees.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on November 13, 2021, 09:30:40 PM
Post by: cc on November 13, 2021, 09:30:40 PM
If it means what % recovered from hospital and / or ICU, that's pretty rare .. never seen that info
If you mean recovered vaxxxed vs unvaxxed that info is not gonna be around -
best I can do is how many of each are in which is highly significant and alone makes the case for vax vs unvaxxed for both infection & hospitalization
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on November 14, 2021, 12:11:09 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 14, 2021, 12:11:09 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on November 14, 2021, 12:58:13 PM
Post by: cc on November 14, 2021, 12:58:13 PM
There is very little study or data on that which is disgraceful. Seems they have to get vaccinated to get a passport, Provincial or Federal
I think part of it is that any data I've seen, the antibodies vary greatly & more important T & B cell count would be needed for it to have meaning. How long it lasts? Again little detail and varies greatly .. a catch 22 for those infected and for those assessing benefit
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on November 14, 2021, 01:12:06 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 14, 2021, 01:12:06 PM
I assume you mean becoming infected a 2nd time for the 1 in 22 in Canada who caught it?
yes
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 05, 2021, 11:07:05 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 05, 2021, 11:07:05 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 05, 2021, 11:10:13 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 05, 2021, 11:10:13 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 05, 2021, 11:46:52 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 05, 2021, 11:46:52 AM
One area where I am in 100 percent agreement with DD and Blazor is opposition to vaccine mandates, mask wearing and passports. Oregon is drafting a rule to make wearing masks permanent.:dash1:
I oppose vaccine mandates and lockdowns too. I'm not sure about passports and mask mandates.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 05, 2021, 11:56:05 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 05, 2021, 11:56:05 AM
One area where I am in 100 percent agreement with DD and Blazor is opposition to vaccine mandates, mask wearing and passports. Oregon is drafting a rule to make wearing masks permanent.:dash1:
I oppose vaccine mandates and lockdowns too. I'm not sure about passports and mask mandates.
Liberty first, liberty always. It's non negotiable for me.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 05, 2021, 02:53:32 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 05, 2021, 02:53:32 PM
One area where I am in 100 percent agreement with DD and Blazor is opposition to vaccine mandates, mask wearing and passports.Oregon is drafting a rule to make wearing masks permanent.:dash1:
COVID measures shouldn't be permanent.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 07, 2021, 01:15:47 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 07, 2021, 01:15:47 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 09, 2021, 11:12:29 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 09, 2021, 11:12:29 AM
The Food and Drug Administration is asking a judge to give it 75 years to produce data concerning the Pfizer and BioNTech vaccine, up 20 years from a previous request.
The FDA told the court it can work faster than its previously proposed 500-pages-per-month rate, but it also said there are more than 59,000 more pages than mentioned in an earlier filing.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on December 09, 2021, 12:07:32 PM
Post by: cc on December 09, 2021, 12:07:32 PM
Seems all the conservative media has gone off the rails on covid .. Fox & Epoch, big vax development pushers when Trump was in have now done a total 180 - I cannot find a conservative or libertarian news person who is remotely objective anymore & no longer can trust them on the subject .. which of course means there is no media to trust
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 09, 2021, 02:49:07 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 09, 2021, 02:49:07 PM
I have heard this. While It was I who recommended Epoch some time ago, I have no faith in it of late .. it's virtually become an anti-vaxx site starting almost a year ago
Seems all the conservative media has gone off the rails on covid .. Fox & Epoch, big vax development pushers when Trump was in have now done a total 180 - I cannot find a conservative or libertarian news person who is remotely objective anymore & no longer can trust them on the subject .. which of course means there is no media to trust
I know they have both reversed themselves for opportunistic political reasons. But, that does not change the fact that the relationship between Pfizer and Washington has been too cozy long before we ever heard of the word coronavirus.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on December 09, 2021, 04:55:05 PM
Post by: Bricktop on December 09, 2021, 04:55:05 PM
How much money did the pharmaceutical and health product industry spend on lobbying and campaign contributions in the US from 1999 to 2018?
Findings
This observational study, which analyzed publicly available data on campaign contributions and lobbying in the US from 1999 to 2018, found that the pharmaceutical and health product industry spent $4.7 billion, an average of $233 million per year, on lobbying the US federal government; $414 million on contributions to presidential and congressional electoral candidates, national party committees, and outside spending groups; and $877 million on contributions to state candidates and committees. Contributions were targeted at senior legislators in Congress involved in drafting health care laws and state committees that opposed or supported key referenda on drug pricing and regulation.
Meaning
An understanding of the large sums of money the pharmaceutical and health product industry spends on lobbying and campaign contributions can inform discussions about how to temper the influence of industry on US health policy.
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Abstract
Importance
Government efforts to lower drug costs and other legislative and regulatory initiatives may be counteracted by campaign donors and lobbyists in the pharmaceutical and health product industry."
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 09, 2021, 06:26:17 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 09, 2021, 06:26:17 PM
"Question
How much money did the pharmaceutical and health product industry spend on lobbying and campaign contributions in the US from 1999 to 2018?
Findings
This observational study, which analyzed publicly available data on campaign contributions and lobbying in the US from 1999 to 2018, found that the pharmaceutical and health product industry spent $4.7 billion, an average of $233 million per year, on lobbying the US federal government; $414 million on contributions to presidential and congressional electoral candidates, national party committees, and outside spending groups; and $877 million on contributions to state candidates and committees. Contributions were targeted at senior legislators in Congress involved in drafting health care laws and state committees that opposed or supported key referenda on drug pricing and regulation.
Meaning
An understanding of the large sums of money the pharmaceutical and health product industry spends on lobbying and campaign contributions can inform discussions about how to temper the influence of industry on US health policy.
Go to:
Abstract
Importance
Government efforts to lower drug costs and other legislative and regulatory initiatives may be counteracted by campaign donors and lobbyists in the pharmaceutical and health product industry."//https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7054854/
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 11, 2021, 07:00:11 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 11, 2021, 07:00:11 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on December 11, 2021, 07:42:42 PM
Post by: cc on December 11, 2021, 07:42:42 PM
seeing that yall are somehowallergic tobitchute videos, i thought this might be of some interest to yall.... enjoy....
www undocumented bitchute video by some guy from somewhere
Damn .. Now I'm scratching all over
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on December 11, 2021, 07:58:57 PM
Post by: Bricktop on December 11, 2021, 07:58:57 PM
seeing that yall are somehow allergic to bitchute videos, i thought this might be of some interest to yall.... enjoy....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCbohvmiigY
47 minutes!!!
Exec summary, please.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on December 11, 2021, 08:06:40 PM
Post by: Frood on December 11, 2021, 08:06:40 PM
seeing that yall are somehowallergic tobitchute videos, i thought this might be of some interest to yall.... enjoy....
www undocumented bitchute video by some guy from somewhere
Damn .. Now I'm scratching all over:mad:
ac_smile
Have Dr. Coleman check it out for you... his predictions stats are rather prophetic....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 12, 2021, 12:49:37 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 12, 2021, 12:49:37 PM
seeing that yall are somehow allergic to bitchute videos, i thought this might be of some interest to yall.... enjoy....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCbohvmiigY
Ah Chris Marernson, the buy gold, expect a big crash huckster. I hope you're not getting your facts from that scammer
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 02:18:39 PM
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 02:18:39 PM
seeing that yall are somehow allergic to bitchute videos, i thought this might be of some interest to yall.... enjoy....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCbohvmiigY
Ah Chris Marernson, the buy gold, expect a big crash huckster. I hope you're not getting your facts from that scammer
Good spot
And it's not just him & of course they get their "info" from scammers
Antivaxx has become an industry of its own .. driven by Click Loot.
Hucksterville Inc, trolls the reeds along the shoreline for & catches suckerfish 24/7
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 12, 2021, 04:05:14 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 12, 2021, 04:05:14 PM
seeing that yall are somehow allergic to bitchute videos, i thought this might be of some interest to yall.... enjoy....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCbohvmiigY
Ah Chris Marernson, the buy gold, expect a big crash huckster. I hope you're not getting your facts from that scammer
Good spot
And it's not just him & of course they get their "info" from scammers
Antivaxx has become an industry of its own .. driven by Click Loot.
Hucksterville Inc, trolls the reeds along the shoreline for & catches suckerfish 24/7I am setting up a thread on this con artist billion dollar industry for suckers - Click Click Click Click Click Click Click Click Click Click = Mega $$$$
Anti vaxxers are making a living off of disinformation.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 06:13:58 PM
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 06:13:58 PM
Without the gullible suckers swallowing the hook, these 2-bit & sooo obvious phonies couldn't make a dollar
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 12, 2021, 06:16:20 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 12, 2021, 06:16:20 PM
seeing that yall are somehow allergic to bitchute videos, i thought this might be of some interest to yall.... enjoy....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCbohvmiigY
Ah Chris Marernson, the buy gold, expect a big crash huckster. I hope you're not getting your facts from that scammer
For Christ sake. I hope old dsm aint giving that con man money.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 06:48:16 PM
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 06:48:16 PM
The idea is to create & then give the suckers ammo they want - they click & copy paste, then others click it = mega bucks
Posters are slaves to their phony but rich owners .. doing their bidding like good little slave puppets who get paid nothing while their puppeteers get rich
"work yer butts off for ME & make me rich my pretties" ..
I'm preparing a thread laying out how how the scamming all works & the puppets unpaid role in it
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 12, 2021, 07:02:41 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 12, 2021, 07:02:41 PM
Money is obtained by the suckers clicking on antivaxx videos ... lots of sucker clicks = mega bucks for the phonies / con men
The idea is to create & then give the suckers ammo they want - they click & copy paste, then others click it = mega bucks
Posters are slaves to their phony but rich owners .. doing their bidding like good little slave puppets who get paid nothing while their puppeteers get rich
"work yer butts off for ME & make me rich my pretties" ..:laugh:
That's what I meant. I hope he aint making that con artist rich(er).
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 07:06:23 PM
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 07:06:23 PM
We know a few of the hard working (dedicated in fact) unpaid puppets / fools making others rich
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 12, 2021, 07:09:15 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 12, 2021, 07:09:15 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 07:10:22 PM
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 07:10:22 PM
Youtube, Instagram, and Tik Tok provide an opportunity for unemployable people to earn a living.
U got it right, gal!!
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on December 12, 2021, 07:14:26 PM
Post by: Bricktop on December 12, 2021, 07:14:26 PM
Youtube, Instagram, and Tik Tok provide an opportunity for unemployable people to earn a living.
Especially Youtube and Google employees.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 07:18:24 PM
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 07:18:24 PM
they also help make the entities they hate bitterly .. big internet companies richer
And they get not a penny for their efforts
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 12, 2021, 07:20:31 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 12, 2021, 07:20:31 PM
Yes. What's even funnier than the fact these dedicated puppet fools make these hokey video makers rich,
they also help make the entities they hate bitterly like big internet companies richer
That would piss off the conspiracy theorists if they knew that.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 07:23:01 PM
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 07:23:01 PM
Yes. What's even funnier than the fact these dedicated puppet fools make these hokey video makers rich,
they also help make the entities they hate bitterly like big internet companies richer
That would piss off the conspiracy theorists if they knew that.:laugh3:
Yes. It would be shattering to know how they are being played like a fiddle for the benefit of those they hate
Amazing how naïve / dumb they are .. they can't make a penny from their efforts to make others (including some they hate) filthy rich
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 12, 2021, 07:25:41 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 12, 2021, 07:25:41 PM
Yes. What's even funnier than the fact these dedicated puppet fools make these hokey video makers rich,
they also help make the entities they hate bitterly like big internet companies richer
That would piss off the conspiracy theorists if they knew that.:laugh3:
Yes. It would be shattering to know how they are being played like a fiddle for the benefit of those they hate
Amazing how naïve / dumb some can be
Maybe one or two of them will read this.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 07:29:12 PM
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 07:29:12 PM
Yes. What's even funnier than the fact these dedicated puppet fools make these hokey video makers rich,
they also help make the entities they hate bitterly like big internet companies richer
That would piss off the conspiracy theorists if they knew that.:laugh3:
Yes. It would be shattering to know how they are being played like a fiddle for the benefit of those they hate
Amazing how naïve / dumb some can be
Maybe one or two of them will read this.
I dunno. With some it's hard to take the fool out of the voluntary slave
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 12, 2021, 07:31:34 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 12, 2021, 07:31:34 PM
Yes. What's even funnier than the fact these dedicated puppet fools make these hokey video makers rich,
they also help make the entities they hate bitterly like big internet companies richer
That would piss off the conspiracy theorists if they knew that.:laugh3:
Yes. It would be shattering to know how they are being played like a fiddle for the benefit of those they hate
Amazing how naïve / dumb some can be
Maybe one or two of them will read this.
I dunno. With some it's hard to take the fool out of the voluntary slave:laugh:
Who in your opinion is the most blinded by conspiracy theory nonsense on these forums?
In my opinion, it has to be SCOUSE.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 07:36:17 PM
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 07:36:17 PM
That would piss off the conspiracy theorists if they knew that.:laugh3:
Yes. It would be shattering to know how they are being played like a fiddle for the benefit of those they hate
Amazing how naïve / dumb some can be
Maybe one or two of them will read this.
I dunno. With some it's hard to take the fool out of the voluntary slave:laugh:
Who in your opinion is the most blinded by conspiracy theory nonsense on these forums?
In my opinion, it has to be SCOUSE.
Yes, he would be the world's worse sucker in overall terms ...
but this is specifically about our antivaxx voluntary slaves / suckers for "the man" pets
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 12, 2021, 07:40:43 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 12, 2021, 07:40:43 PM
Yes. It would be shattering to know how they are being played like a fiddle for the benefit of those they hate
Amazing how naïve / dumb some can be
Maybe one or two of them will read this.
I dunno. With some it's hard to take the fool out of the voluntary slave:laugh:
Who in your opinion is the most blinded by conspiracy theory nonsense on these forums?
In my opinion, it has to be SCOUSE.
Yes, he would be the world's worse sucker in overall terms ...
but this is specifically about our antivaxx voluntary slaves / suckers for "the man" pets
SCOUSE is an anti vaxxer too.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 07:41:38 PM
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 07:41:38 PM
Who in your opinion is the most blinded by conspiracy theory nonsense on these forums?
In my opinion, it has to be SCOUSE.
Yes, he would be the world's worse sucker in overall terms ...
but this is specifically about our antivaxx voluntary slaves / suckers for "the man" pets
SCOUSE is an anti vaxxer too.
I'm not surprised ... so I guess he even beats out our voluntary slave pets in working his buns off for those he hates
Our pet suckers just can't win
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 08:57:30 PM
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 08:57:30 PM
All they care about is using the suckers to make a lot of money
Sucker's Click > Cha Ching
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on December 12, 2021, 08:59:24 PM
Post by: Frood on December 12, 2021, 08:59:24 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 09:09:46 PM
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 09:09:46 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on December 12, 2021, 09:14:52 PM
Post by: Frood on December 12, 2021, 09:14:52 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Thiel on December 12, 2021, 09:16:17 PM
Post by: Thiel on December 12, 2021, 09:16:17 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on December 12, 2021, 09:18:16 PM
Post by: Frood on December 12, 2021, 09:18:16 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 09:24:42 PM
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 09:24:42 PM
...... Satan's Helper....
That's moi!!
"Logic" .. Good one!!
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Thiel on December 12, 2021, 09:30:19 PM
Post by: Thiel on December 12, 2021, 09:30:19 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 09:31:34 PM
Post by: cc on December 12, 2021, 09:31:34 PM
As CNN proves, there is a market for lying to the masses.
Good point.
..
And not only the masses ... the . .errr ... "select" few as well
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 09:47:02 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 09:47:02 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 09:51:07 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 09:51:07 AM
no offense.... but yall are gullible as fuck.... this place depresses the hell outta me because yall claim to be conservative.... but yall keep drinking the koolaid... i really believe its a mental illness....https://www.bitchute.com/video/bvxsCHVY10dK/
You and I are not that far apart.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 09:55:30 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 09:55:30 AM
You and I are not that far apart.
i agree.... same restaurant.... different tables....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 09:57:41 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 09:57:41 AM
no offense.... but yall are gullible as fuck.... this place depresses the hell outta me because yall claim to be conservative.... but yall keep drinking the koolaid... i really believe its a mental illness....https://www.bitchute.com/video/bvxsCHVY10dK/
You and I are not that far apart.
I feel Skinz was talking about me and cc.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 09:59:27 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 09:59:27 AM
You and I are not that far apart.
i agree.... same restaurant.... different tables....:laugh:
Something like that. I'm a bit of an outlier here. You and I agree on about 95 percent of everything related to this pandemic.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 10:04:58 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 10:04:58 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 10:33:49 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 10:33:49 AM
no offense.... but yall are gullible as fuck.... this place depresses the hell outta me because yall claim to be conservative.... but yall keep drinking the koolaid... i really believe its a mental illness....https://www.bitchute.com/video/bvxsCHVY10dK/
You and I are not that far apart.
I feel Skinz was talking about me and cc.
not exclusively.... seems to me this place is chock-full of covid enthusiasts.... i dunno how yall can make such a blatant disconnect from reality.... but you do it._._ and quite successfully.... its almost impressive....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 10:38:10 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 10:38:10 AM
no offense.... but yall are gullible as fuck.... this place depresses the hell outta me because yall claim to be conservative.... but yall keep drinking the koolaid... i really believe its a mental illness....https://www.bitchute.com/video/bvxsCHVY10dK/
You and I are not that far apart.
I feel Skinz was talking about me and cc.
not exclusively.... seems to me this place is chock-full of covid enthusiasts.... i dunno how yall can make such a blatant disconnect from reality.... but you do it._._ and quite successfully.... its almost impressive....
COVID enthusiasts....I don't know what that means..
I want out of this pandemic.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 10:43:34 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 10:43:34 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 10:50:12 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 10:50:12 AM
we're not in a pandemic.... YOU'RE in a pandemic.... and compliance is not gonna 'end it faster'.... compliance is what makes it last.... everytime you say 'OK', they add 10 more yards to goal line.... i know thats hard for you to understand.... but its right in your face....
I wear a mask when I'm out and at work because I have to..
I don't use hand sanitizer as much as I used to..
About one quarter to one third of people who've caught COVID in my province have had long term effects.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 10:55:37 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 10:55:37 AM
we're not in a pandemic.... YOU'RE in a pandemic.... and compliance is not gonna 'end it faster'.... compliance is what makes it last.... everytime you say 'OK', they add 10 more yards to goal line.... i know thats hard for you to understand.... but its right in your face....
I wear a mask when I'm out and at work because I have to..
I don't use hand sanitizer as much as I used to..
About one quarter to one third of people who've caught COVID in my province have had long term effects.
I made a full recovery. I'm actually surprised I did because I smoked for twenty seven years. I didn't catch the Delta variant which seems to cause worse symptoms.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 10:59:04 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 10:59:04 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 11:04:19 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 11:04:19 AM
i dunno what else to tell you.... i haven't worn a mask since this started.... i haven't changed a single thing about my life.... none of my friends have participated in covid cosplay.... and none of us have had any problems.... i live in alabama and that is/was 'covid country'.... we just go on with life as usual.... when everyone else joins us, this won't have a choice but to 'be over'....
My life has changed in that I work half of the time from my condo. Here in Ontario you have to mask up to go in any building. I make sure I have one in my car at all times.
What pisses me off is that my province does not recognize my natural immunity. I didn't want to get vaxxed, but I did because I want to go to Florida for a golf trip next month. If not for travel, I would not have gotten jabbed.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 11:07:44 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 11:07:44 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 11:09:11 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 11:09:11 AM
correction - my life has improved because now idiots have identifying markers like masks and face shields so i no longer need to talk to someone in order to discover they're fuckin retarded....
I gather your state and has dropped most rules.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 11:18:11 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 11:18:11 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 11:27:18 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 11:27:18 AM
my state never enforced rules.... we don't go around doing what we're told to do.... its just a mandate and i don't date men....
The problem in Canada is that our public funded no competition health care system could not cope with one thousand extra people in ICU. Don't ask me where the eighty billion a year goes.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 11:32:53 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 11:32:53 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 11:36:02 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 11:36:02 AM
my state never enforced rules.... we don't go around doing what we're told to do.... its just a mandate and i don't date men....
The problem in Canada is that our public funded no competition health care system could not cope with one thousand extra people in ICU. Don't ask me where the eighty billion a year goes.
COVID has exposed weaknesses in Canadian public health care.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 11:37:14 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 11:37:14 AM
theres alot about the inner workings of the basic hospital that aren't 'common knowledge'.... the numbers are easily manipulated by a small handful of top executives.... if they were motivated by money and not concerned with accuracy, they could make anything look like a pandemic....
You are talking about the US. It doesn't quite work that way here.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 11:41:12 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 11:41:12 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 11:48:53 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 11:48:53 AM
yes.... i'm sure corruption is just an american thing.... canada is 100% above board.... no propaganda for yall....
American health care encourages fraud. I am a proponent of a private health care option, but not the way the US does it. Think Japan, Switzerland, and Singapore.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 11:53:09 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 11:53:09 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 11:56:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 11:56:00 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 12:05:19 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 12:05:19 PM
partner.... i'm not a proponent of ANYTHING america is/was doing.... but now that communism has reared its ugly head, i'm not afforded the option of not being pro-american.... i'll be super excited when all these blue-haired transgender commies are dead and i can once again go back to hating on america....
The US spends more per capita on health care than any other G20 nation, but gets some of worst outcomes. Canadians don't get very good bang for our tax dollars either. The US is the worst example of private health care delivery and Canada is the worst example of public health care delivery.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 12:06:15 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 12:06:15 PM
I don't trust anything from the US. I'm becoming as anti-American as Sox.
I've noticed that.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 12:10:34 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 12:10:34 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 12:13:32 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 12:13:32 PM
i love america.... but i hate the government.... and as much as i hate the government, i hate the ppl who support the current government even more.... we need less government and liberals should go die in a fire....
The regime you have is dangerously ideological and incompetent. Just like Justin Trudeau.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 12:19:15 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 12:19:15 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 12:22:48 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 12:22:48 PM
you can look at california and see whats gonna happen to america if its not stopped soon.... biden is a fuckin imbecile and the ppl who voted for that trash need to be pistol-whipped....
The Democratic Party has always been corrupt, but now they are an authoritarian party.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 12:25:40 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 12:25:40 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on December 13, 2021, 01:09:07 PM
Post by: cc on December 13, 2021, 01:09:07 PM
I feel Skinz was talking about me and cc.
Nether of whom have any use for Fauci. Oh the irony (or rather deception
He should know that I don't click vids - I let the suckers / believers make the actors in the videos and Google rich off them
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 01:13:10 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 01:13:10 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on December 13, 2021, 01:22:16 PM
Post by: cc on December 13, 2021, 01:22:16 PM
That's twice today you didn't get what I was saying .. strange .. maybe the wind?
Meantime keep promoting & clicking ... and making the video actors and Google rich .. Ka Ching!!
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 01:26:58 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 01:26:58 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on December 13, 2021, 01:38:17 PM
Post by: cc on December 13, 2021, 01:38:17 PM
Seems we agree. .. "hate the game"
Being as we are together on that, do any other people have a comment to make on that?
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 01:55:53 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 01:55:53 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on December 13, 2021, 01:58:47 PM
Post by: cc on December 13, 2021, 01:58:47 PM
From the gitgo in fact
What you are saying is merely left media blabber .. it never was fact
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 02:05:55 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 13, 2021, 02:05:55 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on December 13, 2021, 02:08:46 PM
Post by: cc on December 13, 2021, 02:08:46 PM
I don't click on nor believe any videos. The anti industry is a large and lucrative scam and quite effective upon the naïve .. and on those who "want" to believe them
Drama Queens par exceedance
Got any vids using Vaers data we can have some fun with?
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 02:25:28 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2021, 02:25:28 PM
I feel Skinz was talking about me and cc.
Nether of whom have any use for Fauci. Oh the irony (or rather deception:wink: )
He should know that I don't click vids - I let the suckers / believers make the actors in the videos and Google rich off them
As others have said, it's incredible Dr Fauci has kept his job......and his freedom.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 14, 2021, 09:35:32 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 14, 2021, 09:35:32 AM
found this to be of interest.... but yall hurry up and get boosters anyway.... mark it down and see how soon the next one comes....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2021, 09:55:35 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2021, 09:55:35 AM
https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/news/post/vaccine-acquired-immune-deficiency-syndrome-vaids-we-should-anticipate-seeing-this-immune-erosion-more-widely/
found this to be of interest.... but yall hurry up and get boosters anyway.... mark it down and see how soon the next one comes....:laugh:
This might interest you.
COVID-19 vaccines don't cause immunodeficiency syndrome
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 14, 2021, 10:02:00 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 14, 2021, 10:02:00 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2021, 10:13:03 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2021, 10:13:03 AM
why would that interest me? i'm not vaccinated.... i have nothing invested....
I thought you might be interested in facts....here's some more in response to your article..
I've seen that claim before and it's been debunked many times.
There is no evidence that COVID-19 vaccines weaken the body's immune system.
See the sources for this fact-check
An article citing United Kingdom government reports raises alarms about the risk of AIDS, falsely claiming that COVID-19 vaccinations are degrading people's immune systems.
The article, by an author identified only as "a concerned reader," appeared on a website called The Exposé, which describes itself as an alternative to the U.K. government-owned BBC and "lying" mainstream media.
"UK Government reports suggest the Fully Vaccinated are rapidly developing Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome," read the first part of the headline.
The post was flagged as part of Facebook's efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.)
The Oct. 30 article began with claims that reports on COVID-19 cases show that "double-vaccinated 40- to 79-year-olds have now lost lost 50% of their immune system capability," and that 30- to 49-year-olds "will have zero COVID / viral defense at best, or a form of vaccine mediated acquired immunodeficiency syndrome at worst, by the first week in January."
The article adds: "Everybody over 30 will have lost 100% of their entire immune capability, certainly for COVID and most likely for viruses and certain cancers....Fully vaccinated 30- to 49-year-olds will have lost it by the first week in January. These people will then have no immune defence against Covid-19 at all."
A spokesperson for the UK Health Security Agency dismissed the claim, saying: "COVID-19 vaccines do not cause AIDS."
We found no evidence to support the claim that the vaccines weaken, let alone destroy, the body's immune system.
Here's what the latest Surveillance Report from the agency says about the vaccines' effectiveness in the U.K., which administers vaccines from Pfizer, Moderna and AstraZeneca:
After a two-dose course, the vaccines are 65% to 90% effective in preventing symptomatic disease from the Delta variant, and 90% to 99% effective against hospitalization.
Rates of COVID-19 infection, hospitalization and death are substantially higher among unvaccinated people than among vaccinated people.
The effectiveness of the vaccines in preventing certain outcomes may wane over a period of several months. But the report contains no indication that the vaccines degrade the immune system overall.
Research in the U.S. — which uses vaccines from Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson — similarly shows that the vaccines do not degrade the immune system.
Earlier in October, we rated False a claim that a person's immune system "tanks" after their second COVID-19 vaccine dose. On the contrary, we found that research from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and others show that the vaccines boost the body's immune response. For example, one Aug. 13 CDC report found that people who had been infected with COVID-19 in 2020 got a dramatic boost in virus-killing immune cells later because they were vaccinated.
Dr. Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center and an attending physician in the Division of Infectious Diseases at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, told PolitiFact that the suggestion that the immune system is weakened by the COVID-19 shots rather than bolstered by them isn't supported by clinical trial data, which includes thousands of people. "This wasn't observed in any of the phase 3 trials, where complete blood counts were obtained," he said.
Other fact-checks reached the same conclusion.
The Associated Press rated false a claim that a study from the Francis Crick Institute in London found that Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine destroys a type of white blood cell called the T cell and weakens the immune system.
The AP found that the vaccine doesn't destroy T cells or weaken the immune system. On the contrary, it generates a strong T cell response and boosts immunity, according to experts.
Health Feedback also found no evidence to back the claim that COVID-19 vaccines weaken the immune system.
A claim that U.K. "government reports suggest the fully vaccinated are rapidly developing Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome" has no factual basis.
We rate it False.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 14, 2021, 10:21:48 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 14, 2021, 10:21:48 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2021, 10:32:22 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2021, 10:32:22 AM
fact checkers? like the ones who said Russian Collusion was 'totally true'? Hunters laptop was 'totally fake'? Lab leak theory was impossible? No fraud during 2020 elections? yeah.... fact checkers.... LMMFAO....:laugh:
Fact checkers like epidemiologists..
Now they don't make bitchute videos, but their little medicine hobby keeps them pretty busy..
There are lots of other sources that debunk VAIDS if you like..
Here's another one.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 14, 2021, 10:36:38 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 14, 2021, 10:36:38 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 14, 2021, 10:39:06 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 14, 2021, 10:39:06 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2021, 10:49:03 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2021, 10:49:03 AM
i remember when 9 out of 10 doctors chose Pall Mall as their preferred cigarette.... and asbestos was great for baby blankets and such....:laugh:
And McDonald's Canada uses one hundred per cent Canadian beef..
Marketing gimmicks that had no scientific basis in reality, but most of us knew that.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 14, 2021, 10:50:29 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 14, 2021, 10:50:29 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 14, 2021, 10:55:55 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 14, 2021, 10:55:55 AM
i remember when 9 out of 10 doctors chose Pall Mall as their preferred cigarette.... and asbestos was great for baby blankets and such....:laugh:
And McDonald's Canada uses one hundred per cent Canadian beef..
Marketing gimmicks that had no scientific basis in reality, but most of us knew that.
remember back when the vaccine made you 'completely immune to covid'? followed shortly by 'unable to transmit covid'? followed shortly by 'won't get sick from covid'? followed shortly by 'won't die from covid'? followed by 'maybe won't die from covid'? followed by 'yall come get some boosters NOW. covids coming'? i sure do.... science moves fast as fuck, boiiiiii....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2021, 11:05:02 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2021, 11:05:02 AM
i remember when 9 out of 10 doctors chose Pall Mall as their preferred cigarette.... and asbestos was great for baby blankets and such....:laugh:
And McDonald's Canada uses one hundred per cent Canadian beef..
Marketing gimmicks that had no scientific basis in reality, but most of us knew that.
remember back when the vaccine made you 'completely immune to covid'? followed shortly by 'unable to transmit covid'? followed shortly by 'won't get sick from covid'? followed shortly by 'won't die from covid'? followed by 'maybe won't die from covid'? followed by 'yall come get some boosters NOW. covids coming'? i sure do.... science moves fast as fuck, boiiiiii....:laugh:
I don't remember that....I remember ninety five per cent efficacy for Pfizer ninety four for Moderna and seventyy five-eighty for AZ and seventy five per cent for the new plant based vaccine that recently passed third stage trials in Canada..
But, vaccines are helping a lot and here is the data from BC to prove it.
Here's today's update from BC Health (which echos similar data from UK etc. etc. etc.)
Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Oct. 4-10 2021)
Not vaccinated: 281.3
Partially vaccinated: 84.4
Fully vaccinated: 33.1
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2021, 11:06:59 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2021, 11:06:59 AM
3 years from now - "DID YOU OR A LOVED ONE TAKE THE COVID VACCINE? I represent the law firm of Cheetum And Steele and you can join our class action lawsuit today".....:laugh:
There will be lawsuits in the US no matter what. That is a given.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 14, 2021, 11:08:43 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 14, 2021, 11:08:43 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2021, 11:15:02 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2021, 11:15:02 AM
https://www.bitchute.com/video/rQq6d6AvCImg/ :laugh:
I believe all of us here are in agreement that Fauci is a pathological liar. I believe if you go to VF, Blurt and and asal still shill for that criminal.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on December 14, 2021, 11:21:23 AM
Post by: cc on December 14, 2021, 11:21:23 AM
A hokey Click Bate video designed for suckers has even less to do with it or anything
Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Oct. 4-10 2021)Quote from: Fashionista post_id=430771 time=1639497902 user_id=3254
Not vaccinated: 281.3
Partially vaccinated: 84.4
Fully vaccinated: 33.1
That's a consistent ratio with us in BC for past week per 100,000
Not vaccinated: 164
Fully vaccinated: 23
I do allow that some of both groups may not report
However, Hospitalizations are of course all reported here - per 100,000
Not vaccinated: 25.0
Partially vaccinated: 1.5
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 14, 2021, 11:24:12 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 14, 2021, 11:24:12 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2021, 11:33:05 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2021, 11:33:05 AM
fauci is indeed a criminal and a liar.... and pfizer have an extensive record of criminal behavior and lying.... not to mention unethical business practices.... yet these ppl have 'complete trust' in the vaccine.... the cognitive dissonance is palpable here....:laugh:
Obama should have fired Fauci. He will never be prosecuted for lying to congress.
As for Pfizer, it's relationship with DC is similar to Bayer and the nazi regime.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 14, 2021, 11:35:14 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 14, 2021, 11:35:14 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2021, 11:42:43 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2021, 11:42:43 AM
you forgot to say "but the vaccine is totally safe and effective"....:laugh:
No vaccine is totally effective or even safe, depending on the individual..
But, as the data cc has posted proves they've been very good at keeping our hospitals from overflowing..
We'll see going forward if they work as well against the Omicron variant.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 14, 2021, 11:49:21 AM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 14, 2021, 11:49:21 AM
No vaccine is totally effective or even safe
where there is risk, there should also be choice.... and that, my friend, is what i'm fighting for.... thats all....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2021, 11:54:45 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2021, 11:54:45 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on December 14, 2021, 01:06:46 PM
Post by: cc on December 14, 2021, 01:06:46 PM
don't blame Blazor and DSM one bit.
I absolutely have zero sympathy.
Falling for the slimeball Huckster Videos is a "choice" .. and "choice" is what they claim to be all about ... all they yap about constantly
Wanting it both ways at the same time, or what?
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 14, 2021, 01:27:36 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 14, 2021, 01:27:36 PM
don't blame Blazor and DSM one bit.
I absolutely have zero sympathy.
Falling for the slimeball Huckster Videos is a "choice" .. and "choice" is what they claim to be all about ... all they yap about constantly
Wanting it both ways at the same time, or what?
look here, man.... i dunno about the rest of these cats but i don't care whos vaxxed.... my only major issue is the mandates.... nobody has any right to force compliance on another person.... NOBODY....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on December 14, 2021, 01:31:00 PM
Post by: cc on December 14, 2021, 01:31:00 PM
That said, Don't cry to me.
I already offered anyone the chance to watch me sip a dry red through the window
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on December 14, 2021, 01:34:39 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on December 14, 2021, 01:34:39 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2021, 01:40:16 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2021, 01:40:16 PM
don't blame Blazor and DSM one bit.
I absolutely have zero sympathy.
Falling for the slimeball Huckster Videos is a "choice" .. and "choice" is what they claim to be all about ... all they yap about constantly
Wanting it both ways at the same time, or what?
This is how some people(less educated) respond when they feel the state and it's institutions have screwed them.
The elites don't fall for online cons of course. They continued to travel, to host big parties at Martha's Vineyard and to get hair salons to open when they were supposed to be closed. The con industry is offering average Americans a release meachanism for their righteous anger. I don't buy their snake oil sales pitches, but I totally get it's appeal.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on December 14, 2021, 01:47:37 PM
Post by: cc on December 14, 2021, 01:47:37 PM
don't blame Blazor and DSM one bit.
I absolutely have zero sympathy.
Falling for the slimeball Huckster Videos is a "choice" .. and "choice" is what they claim to be all about ... all they yap about constantly
Wanting it both ways at the same time, or what?
This is how some people(less educated) respond when they feel the state and it's institutions have screwed them.
The elites don't fall for online cons of course. They continued to travel, to host big parties at Martha's Vineyard and to get hair salons to open when they were supposed to be closed. The con industry is offering average Americans a release meachanism for their righteous anger. I don't buy their snake oil sales pitches, but I totally get it's appeal.
I'm OK with them swallowing the con if they keep it to themselves ... That's their "choice" (that they claim to value so highly)
Missionaries / voluntary obsessed lackys for Con Hucksters spreading misinformation & fear 24/7, ... uh uh .. no sympathy
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on December 14, 2021, 01:59:38 PM
Post by: cc on December 14, 2021, 01:59:38 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Oliver Clotheshoffe on December 14, 2021, 02:20:35 PM
Post by: Oliver Clotheshoffe on December 14, 2021, 02:20:35 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2021, 03:34:34 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2021, 03:34:34 PM
On the front page of the KTLA website today -(//%3C/s%3E%3CIMGUR%20id=%22W0D8tnm%22%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://i.imgur.com/W0D8tnm.png%22%3Ehttps://i.imgur.com/W0D8tnm.png%3C/URL%3E%3C/IMGUR%3E%3Ce%3E)
:2r4ml1j_th:
I saw those headlines this morning.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2021, 07:23:36 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2021, 07:23:36 PM
don't blame Blazor and DSM one bit.
I absolutely have zero sympathy.
Falling for the slimeball Huckster Videos is a "choice" .. and "choice" is what they claim to be all about ... all they yap about constantly
Wanting it both ways at the same time, or what?
This is how some people(less educated) respond when they feel the state and it's institutions have screwed them.The elites don't fall for online cons of course. They continued to travel, to host big parties at Martha's Vineyard and to get hair salons to open when they were supposed to be closed.The con industry is offering average Americans a release meachanism for their righteous anger. I don't buy their snake oil sales pitches, but I totally get it's appeal.
I know they never felt any inconveniences from the lockdowns.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on December 15, 2021, 11:26:18 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 15, 2021, 11:26:18 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on January 03, 2022, 06:43:55 AM
Post by: Anonymous on January 03, 2022, 06:43:55 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on January 03, 2022, 07:31:05 AM
Post by: Frood on January 03, 2022, 07:31:05 AM
It's been a while since I issued this challenge. I have yet to see DD, Blazor or anyone else post some hard data showing vaccines are dangerous. You were given lots of time to find something to support your position, but you couldn't.
Yet you can't supply any info why these short term approved experimental jabs are safe, except for very soft data with moving goalposts by government orgs, Mega Pharma, and media organisations which have turned civil liberties up on their heads.
WE ACTUALLY WANT lots of time to assess this crap.
YOU swallow the tripe each and every time it's reformulated and force-fed to you.
Demanding that anybody give a serious rebuttal to false data's or they're "false" is the epitome of stupid, both for the brainwashed covidians and if anybody responds to such bait and switch tactics, the people not smart enough to just throw memes back or a combination of memes and ripe textual backhands because of their consciences and therefore your bodily and spiritual gain.
This is not a pandemic. It was always going to be endemic. It is not a killer any more than the seasonal influenza has ever been. It's got a high survivability rate, except if nations lockdown their economies, healthcare systems, freedom of movement, and now....freedom of choice.
This is the breaking point. To jab our kids or even our infants with untested unstudied shit.
I don't give a shit if I live or die except to kill as many fuckwits as possible if they try to jab my kids.
THAT is where we're at now, bud.
All the crap....all the goalpost moves over the last 2 years, and I'm saying, "come at me, motherfuckers"....they won't touch my kids.
You don't seem like you're a parent... if you are, I apologise.
But PARENTS GO BEFORE THE KIDS.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on January 03, 2022, 05:20:59 PM
Post by: Bricktop on January 03, 2022, 05:20:59 PM
The numbers upon which we religiously rely tell a number of stories, not just those that tell us being vaccinated protects us from the worst symptoms.
These same numbers tell us that young people are largely unaffected by the virus. If that is the case, why does the government insist on innoculating them? And taking the numbers further, the proportion of infected adults that develop life threatening symptoms is low.
The answer is simple. Children gathering in schools can become a hotspot for viral dissemination on a massive scale.
In other words, the injection is not for their benefit, but for others...predominantly those who can and do make a CHOICE about being injected.
Mandating dosing our children to protect adults is not acceptable. Mandatory injection of chemicals is abhorrent at any level.Adults are responsible for their own stupidity, but injecting children against their will or on specious pretences is wrong. Even if they are perfectly safe.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on January 03, 2022, 08:22:11 PM
Post by: Anonymous on January 03, 2022, 08:22:11 PM
The numbers upon which we religiously rely tell a number of stories, not just those that tell us being vaccinated protects us from the worst symptoms.
These same numbers tell us that young people are largely unaffected by the virus. If that is the case, why does the government insist on innoculating them? And taking the numbers further, the proportion of infected adults that develop life threatening symptoms is low.
I disagree. The data across Canada showed us that the Delta variant was not as kind to people under the age of forty five as previous strains. I know this to be true from the outbreaks we've had at several departments at CP. The fully vaxxed were less likely to test positive and if they did, they had milder symptoms.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on January 03, 2022, 08:25:43 PM
Post by: Anonymous on January 03, 2022, 08:25:43 PM
It's been a while since I issued this challenge. I have yet to see DD, Blazor or anyone else post some hard data showing vaccines are dangerous. You were given lots of time to find something to support your position, but you couldn't.
They can't. They are still on this totally debunked bs about vaccines being new and changing DNA.
DD and Blazor are gullible idiots. Their science comes from memes and bitchute. They failed the challenge. We knew they would. You are a skeptic and I think you knew they would too.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on January 03, 2022, 08:30:47 PM
Post by: Frood on January 03, 2022, 08:30:47 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on January 03, 2022, 08:33:50 PM
Post by: Bricktop on January 03, 2022, 08:33:50 PM
I disagree. The data across Canada showed us that the Delta variant was not as kind to people under the age of forty five as previous strains. I know this to be true from the outbreaks we've had at several departments at CP. The fully vaxxed were less likely to test positive and if they did, they had milder symptoms.
My point was that children are largely unaffected. I know that people above 40 have been made ill around the globe.
And I support vaccination, wholeheartedly.
I simply cannot support mandatory vaccinations in any form. I do not disagree that those to choose not to be vaccinated are ignoring truth and reality, but that is their right. Mandatory safety measures such as seat belts, hard hats and smoking prohibitions are arguable a breach of our right to choice, but we accept them because they do not by design cause us harm or require a modification to our bodies. Vaccines do.
Yes, you are foolish not to take care of your health...but it is far more important to ensure governments do not take any MORE of our rights from us.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on January 03, 2022, 08:35:24 PM
Post by: Bricktop on January 03, 2022, 08:35:24 PM
^ fuckwit lil choo choo boi loser...:laugh3:
What are you mad about. Calling you a "gullible loser" is a more gentle way of expressing that you're fucking batshit crazy.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on January 03, 2022, 08:38:49 PM
Post by: Frood on January 03, 2022, 08:38:49 PM
^ fuckwit lil choo choo boi loser...:laugh3:
What are you mad about. Calling you a "gullible loser" is a more gentle way of expressing that you're fucking batshit crazy.
I enjoy poking the grubby lil mouthbreather almost as much as I take great delight in ridiculing your overall mental decline...
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on January 03, 2022, 08:43:16 PM
Post by: Bricktop on January 03, 2022, 08:43:16 PM
On the other hand, you re-inforce the general view that you're somewhat psychologically impaired.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on January 03, 2022, 08:52:39 PM
Post by: Frood on January 03, 2022, 08:52:39 PM
It's never been about what happens with you, spanky...
I'm not surprised you and Lil Choo Choo Boi missed it though.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on January 03, 2022, 09:40:36 PM
Post by: Anonymous on January 03, 2022, 09:40:36 PM
Yeah...the problem with that is I'm sure IHJ, like me, is largely unaffected by your drivel.
On the other hand, you re-inforce the general view that you're somewhat psychologically impaired.
Nobody over the age of ten is affected by remedial school level insults. It's the reason my stay on flame forums was brief.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on January 03, 2022, 10:06:42 PM
Post by: Blazor on January 03, 2022, 10:06:42 PM
It's been a while since I issued this challenge. I have yet to see DD, Blazor or anyone else post some hard data showing vaccines are dangerous. You were given lots of time to find something to support your position, but you couldn't.
They can't. They are still on this totally debunked bs about vaccines being new and changing DNA.
DD and Blazor are gullible idiots. Their science comes from memes and bitchute. They failed the challenge. We knew they would. You are a skeptic and I think you knew they would too.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on January 03, 2022, 10:15:08 PM
Post by: cc on January 03, 2022, 10:15:08 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on January 03, 2022, 10:17:17 PM
Post by: cc on January 03, 2022, 10:17:17 PM
PARENTS GO BEFORE THE KIDS.
You can have no idea how much I wish that were true
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on January 03, 2022, 10:23:32 PM
Post by: Blazor on January 03, 2022, 10:23:32 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on January 03, 2022, 10:56:13 PM
Post by: Blazor on January 03, 2022, 10:56:13 PM
100'S OF ATHLETES COLLAPSING AND DYING WORLDWIDE FROM HEART FAILURE CAUSED BY TOXIC VACCINES
Shows news. But y'all wont watch it.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on January 03, 2022, 11:44:02 PM
Post by: Bricktop on January 03, 2022, 11:44:02 PM
That is just fear mongering stupidity. Not a single death, not one, is reported to have occurred as a direct result of ANY medication.
Athletes collapsing during training and games is not a new phenomena. It has become much more prevalent because modern sportsmen must train and play at levels unheard of as few as 20 years ago. Take Australian football. The average player would run 3 to 5 kilometres during an entire 100 minute game. Now they're at 13 to 15 kilometres at a far faster rate and longer sprints. Underlying health issues that are benign under normal conditions are triggering heart failures as athletes strive to go further faster.
That video is silly. Its just the same as the governments report thousands of people dying WITH covid, not as a result of Covid. Scam numbers.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on January 03, 2022, 11:58:58 PM
Post by: Frood on January 03, 2022, 11:58:58 PM
Oh its effective alright.....
100'S OF ATHLETES COLLAPSING AND DYING WORLDWIDE FROM HEART FAILURE CAUSED BY TOXIC VACCINES
Shows news. But y'all wont watch it.https://www.bitchute.com/video/SFCtoKEyKfFa/
Just chuck memes at these people and point and giggle...
They've got their heads in the mass psychosis sand...
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on January 04, 2022, 12:07:57 AM
Post by: cc on January 04, 2022, 12:07:57 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on January 04, 2022, 12:10:14 AM
Post by: Frood on January 04, 2022, 12:10:14 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on January 04, 2022, 01:13:47 AM
Post by: Bricktop on January 04, 2022, 01:13:47 AM
They've got their heads in the mass psychosis sand...
Hypocrisy, thy name is Freud.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Berry Sweet on January 04, 2022, 01:16:20 AM
Post by: Berry Sweet on January 04, 2022, 01:16:20 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on January 04, 2022, 01:17:11 AM
Post by: Frood on January 04, 2022, 01:17:11 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on January 04, 2022, 01:19:37 AM
Post by: Bricktop on January 04, 2022, 01:19:37 AM
I'll wait.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on January 04, 2022, 01:24:19 AM
Post by: Frood on January 04, 2022, 01:24:19 AM
You're suggesting that healthy young athletes didn't start dropping on courts and fields over the last year with cardiovascular issues, some leading to instant death?
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on January 04, 2022, 04:04:11 AM
Post by: Bricktop on January 04, 2022, 04:04:11 AM
I'm suggesting that neither Covid nor the vaccine played any part in their ailment or demise.
Now, prove me wrong or STFU. You're embarrassing yourself.
Again.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2022, 04:12:39 AM
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2022, 04:12:39 AM
So, little man...please advise me of the time stamp in that video that relates ANY collapse or death of those athletes to the vaccine.
I'll wait.
It's been debunked already.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on January 04, 2022, 09:30:04 AM
Post by: Frood on January 04, 2022, 09:30:04 AM
No.
I'm suggesting that neither Covid nor the vaccine played any part in their ailment or demise.
Now, prove me wrong or STFU. You're embarrassing yourself.
Again.
No, yuo!
So, little man...please advise me of the time stamp in that video that relates ANY collapse or death of those athletes to the vaccine.
I'll wait.
It's been debunked already.
Your jab hangover is going to be a doozy....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on January 04, 2022, 10:17:10 AM
Post by: Blazor on January 04, 2022, 10:17:10 AM
Dude...c'mon.
That is just fear mongering stupidity. Not a single death, not one, is reported to have occurred as a direct result of ANY medication.
Athletes collapsing during training and games is not a new phenomena. It has become much more prevalent because modern sportsmen must train and play at levels unheard of as few as 20 years ago. Take Australian football. The average player would run 3 to 5 kilometres during an entire 100 minute game. Now they're at 13 to 15 kilometres at a far faster rate and longer sprints. Underlying health issues that are benign under normal conditions are triggering heart failures as athletes strive to go further faster.
That video is silly. Its just the same as the governments report thousands of people dying WITH covid, not as a result of Covid. Scam numbers.
But there has been deaths over the jab. Wish I was making it up
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on January 04, 2022, 06:11:15 PM
Post by: Bricktop on January 04, 2022, 06:11:15 PM
However, it does raise an interesting moral issue; it is right for governments to MANDATE the injecting of it's population to protect a small minority, full in the knowledge that at least one or more people will die as a result of receiving the drug?
Kill a few to save a few more. I'm not in support of that at any level.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on January 04, 2022, 06:36:33 PM
Post by: Blazor on January 04, 2022, 06:36:33 PM
There is no dispute there. But the numbers are tiny relative to the numbers who've been protected from the virus.
However, it does raise an interesting moral issue; it is right for governments to MANDATE the injecting of it's population to protect a small minority, full in the knowledge that at least one or more people will die as a result of receiving the drug?
Kill a few to save a few more. I'm not in support of that at any level.
Im glad you understand man
I literally know more folks that have died from the vax, than I do from Covid, no lie.
People that "feel" something is off, and that it is not right for them, should not be mandated shit. It goes entirely against the Nuremberg Code.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2022, 07:10:39 PM
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2022, 07:10:39 PM
it is right for governments to MANDATE the injecting of it's population to protect a small minority, full in the knowledge that at least one or more people will die as a result of receiving the drug?
Nobody knows that. If they thought the vaccines were risky, they wouldn't be in use let alone mandated.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on January 04, 2022, 07:13:14 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on January 04, 2022, 07:13:14 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2022, 07:20:11 PM
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2022, 07:20:11 PM
the FDA knew that... they saw the trial data and approved them anyway....
If I was an American, I'd believe that too. Your country is so fukt up, I don't know why birds would want to lay eggs inside your borders let alone citizens believing anything corporate or political America tells them. Illegals should come, collect their half mill courtesy of Uncle Joe, and then get they fuck out. I recommend you and Blaze consider emigration too. You guys are white and working class. Your country hates you.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: deadskinmask on January 04, 2022, 07:23:06 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on January 04, 2022, 07:23:06 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2022, 08:07:21 PM
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2022, 08:07:21 PM
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What are these lame memes doing in my thread. Can we have at least one thread for those of us who can debate at a post junior high school level.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on January 04, 2022, 08:12:04 PM
Post by: Blazor on January 04, 2022, 08:12:04 PM
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What are these lame memes doing in my thread. Can we have at least one thread for those of us who can debate at a post junior high school level.
Oh, so sensitive lol.
Its ok. You obviously dont care about kids, since you have none.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2022, 08:18:54 PM
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2022, 08:18:54 PM
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What are these lame memes doing in my thread. Can we have at least one thread for those of us who can debate at a post junior high school level.
Oh, so sensitive lol.
Its ok. You obviously dont care about kids, since you have none.
We're adults here. Why would adults want to read memes. They are created to support an agenda. They aren't news, they aren't data, they aren't science and they certainly aren't believable. The question you should be asking is knowing this as any adult should, why are posting them in the first place. It doesn't make a lot of sense now does it.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on January 04, 2022, 08:29:19 PM
Post by: Blazor on January 04, 2022, 08:29:19 PM
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What are these lame memes doing in my thread. Can we have at least one thread for those of us who can debate at a post junior high school level.
Oh, so sensitive lol.
Its ok. You obviously dont care about kids, since you have none.
We're adults here. Why would adults want to read memes. They are created to support an agenda. They aren't news, they aren't data, they aren't science and they certainly aren't believable. The question you should be asking is knowing this as any adult should, why are posting them in the first place. It doesn't make a lot of sense now does it.
But Seoul, the "news" is in on it. THEY are the ones supporting the agenda.
Any science that goes against the agenda, is censored.
Surely you know this.
Just because something is a meme, doesnt always make it less true. Im trying to get y'all to think.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on January 04, 2022, 09:20:30 PM
Post by: Frood on January 04, 2022, 09:20:30 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on January 04, 2022, 09:21:38 PM
Post by: Bricktop on January 04, 2022, 09:21:38 PM
They're highly effective and that's what shits centrists, leftists, and progressives up trees.
They are?
There's some breaking news I didn't see coming.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Blazor on January 04, 2022, 09:21:52 PM
Post by: Blazor on January 04, 2022, 09:21:52 PM
Memes cut through propaganda and deliver digital backhands of info or humour, often both. They're highly effective and that's what shits centrists, leftists, and progressives up trees.
Leftists really been hating the NPC meme lately
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2022, 07:27:34 PM
Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2022, 07:27:34 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on January 17, 2022, 08:54:52 PM
Post by: cc on January 17, 2022, 08:54:52 PM
They're highly effective and that's what shits centrists, leftists, and progressives up trees.
They are? There's some breaking news I didn't see coming.
Not your fault. Don't beat yourself up
You didn't have an American Aussie Ex-Spurt to clue you in before
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on January 17, 2022, 09:00:21 PM
Post by: Frood on January 17, 2022, 09:00:21 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2022, 09:16:55 PM
Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2022, 09:16:55 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on January 17, 2022, 09:23:44 PM
Post by: cc on January 17, 2022, 09:23:44 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on January 17, 2022, 09:45:02 PM
Post by: Frood on January 17, 2022, 09:45:02 PM
Namaste, nasty....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2022, 09:49:55 PM
Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2022, 09:49:55 PM
I'm quickly tiring of the drama in Australia with Novak Djokovic.
I could imagine how tired Australians are of the spoiled athlete.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on January 17, 2022, 09:57:32 PM
Post by: Bricktop on January 17, 2022, 09:57:32 PM
I'm quickly tiring of the drama in Australia with Novak Djokovic.
YOU'RE tired of it???
It's ten times worse here.
Apparently the ball hitter got a "heroes welcome" when he got back to Serbia.
I guess the term heroism has a different meaning there...something along the lines of "lie to obtain a visa".
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on January 17, 2022, 09:58:42 PM
Post by: Frood on January 17, 2022, 09:58:42 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on January 17, 2022, 09:58:57 PM
Post by: Bricktop on January 17, 2022, 09:58:57 PM
You've made your decisions and you'll either live or die from them. Same as anyone else.
Including you.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on January 17, 2022, 10:03:03 PM
Post by: Frood on January 17, 2022, 10:03:03 PM
You've made your decisions and you'll either live or die from them. Same as anyone else.
Including you.
I have had to.
Despite being completely healthy, our family has had to cease employments and live off our savings for a considerable time while our panicked and deranged society has treated us with contempt.
That society will have to deal with future lawsuits when this Apartheid stops.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on January 17, 2022, 10:19:22 PM
Post by: Bricktop on January 17, 2022, 10:19:22 PM
Good luck with your legal action.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on January 17, 2022, 10:26:17 PM
Post by: Frood on January 17, 2022, 10:26:17 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Odinson on January 18, 2022, 01:10:08 AM
Post by: Odinson on January 18, 2022, 01:10:08 AM
That kind of thing would piss me off.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on January 18, 2022, 03:09:06 AM
Post by: Frood on January 18, 2022, 03:09:06 AM
Thats why you need savings.
That kind of thing would piss me off.
We have shifted our whole lifestyle around to preserve personal wealth and not let these assaults against our choices break us.
We're frugal where it counts but not above ordering in food from local places which never excluded us for not masking up, checking in with QR codes, or winking when both parties lied to each other's faces and made a sale.
We've been in plenty of places that went full Nazi and made an event out of it. We've walked out or walked out with middle fingers extended if their bile was extreme.
But we don't spend money on cunts or cunt businesses anymore.
If they want our money, they've got to work towards our shared free market rights to it....the access....
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on January 18, 2022, 07:08:48 PM
Post by: Bricktop on January 18, 2022, 07:08:48 PM
When this shit blows over, people will remember the businesses who played it smart, and those that fucked their customers around.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on January 18, 2022, 11:23:08 PM
Post by: Frood on January 18, 2022, 11:23:08 PM
I refuse to be in the vicinity of any of them now. If I see them buying something in a shop I'm at, I tell the employees out loud they've lost my business for serving cowards, down items, and walk out.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Bricktop on January 18, 2022, 11:25:06 PM
Post by: Bricktop on January 18, 2022, 11:25:06 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Frood on January 18, 2022, 11:28:05 PM
Post by: Frood on January 18, 2022, 11:28:05 PM
Yep, that'll show them cops you're a real hard man.
It just shows my contempt for their cowardice.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Thiel on February 04, 2022, 11:55:35 PM
Post by: Thiel on February 04, 2022, 11:55:35 PM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Anonymous on February 05, 2022, 12:09:55 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 05, 2022, 12:09:55 AM
Has anyone seen this? Three and in some cases four jabs are losing effectiveness against the omicron variant.https://twitter.com/Covid19Crusher/status/1487680929061654530?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1487680929061654530%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theblaze.com%2Fop-ed%2Fhorowitz-the-country-the-covid-cultists-dont-want-to-discuss https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1488949148099428363?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1488949148099428363%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theblaze.com%2Fop-ed%2Fhorowitz-the-country-the-covid-cultists-dont-want-to-discuss
I haven't seen that Thiel..
But, I know Israel has hight case counts with low death rates..
Yesterday Isreal had 62,302 case and ninety deaths.
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on February 05, 2022, 12:23:16 AM
Post by: cc on February 05, 2022, 12:23:16 AM
So clearly they are getting extreme severity protection
1 in every 3 has caught it & total deaths are 8599 as of today
Dunno how many actually had 4th nor do I know how open things are .. or are not
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Thiel on February 05, 2022, 12:37:59 AM
Post by: Thiel on February 05, 2022, 12:37:59 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: cc on February 05, 2022, 12:45:02 AM
Post by: cc on February 05, 2022, 12:45:02 AM
Title: Re: I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos
Post by: Thiel on February 05, 2022, 12:49:10 AM
Post by: Thiel on February 05, 2022, 12:49:10 AM
True .. generally healthier
Mediterranean diet, and pleasant climate.