https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww47bR86wSc
What makes white people so fucking dogmatic. I'm not asking this just because I hate whites. Why the fuck do white people double down on failed ideas. We are a pragmatic people. We will change course if something isn't working. We sure as hell won't try to bring back failed systems of the past. You dumb fucks want to repeat your mistakes.
I think the video above offers some level of explanation.
We are so controlled and dominated by those in power and by a socio-economic system that is flawed and corrupt, that being stupid is just our coping mechanism.
How often do you hear someone say "this system is broken and serves only the rich and powerful". When the obvious follow up question asks what the speaker would do to change things, they shrug and say "I don't know". What they are really saying is "I don't think".
We sneer at totalitarian nations like North Korea and China, where citizens are programmed to think in pure and precise Marxist terms, but we are simply living under an identical tyranny with the difference being we get to vote for our dictator.
We are stupid because it's easier this way.
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I think the video above offers some level of explanation.
We are so controlled and dominated by those in power and by a socio-economic system that is flawed and corrupt, that being stupid is just our coping mechanism.
How often do you hear someone say "this system is broken and serves only the rich and powerful". When the obvious follow up question asks what the speaker would do to change things, they shrug and say "I don't know". What they are really saying is "I don't think".
We sneer at totalitarian nations like North Korea and China, where citizens are programmed to think in pure and precise Marxist terms, but we are simply living under an identical tyranny with the difference being we get to vote for our dictator.
We are stupid because it's easier this way.
I have had to travel to China for business many times. In some ways they are more willing to assert themselves to protect their interests than Canadians are.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww47bR86wSc
There was a dearth of Dietrich Bonhoeffers in 1935 and their is a shortage of people like him today.
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I have had to travel to China for business many times. In some ways they are more willing to assert themselves to protect their interests than Canadians are.
Yes, I'm trying to get a handle on how Canada is tracking at the moment.
We used to see Canadians as fellow travellers...our northern cousins with whom we had some affinity and shared values.
Now I'm not so sure. Canada seems to be falling under liberalism and losing what once made it great.
Opinion only. I may well be wrong and will stand corrected by my Canadian "amis".
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I think the video above offers some level of explanation.
We are so controlled and dominated by those in power and by a socio-economic system that is flawed and corrupt, that being stupid is just our coping mechanism.
How often do you hear someone say "this system is broken and serves only the rich and powerful". When the obvious follow up question asks what the speaker would do to change things, they shrug and say "I don't know". What they are really saying is "I don't think".
We sneer at totalitarian nations like North Korea and China, where citizens are programmed to think in pure and precise Marxist terms, but we are simply living under an identical tyranny with the difference being we get to vote for our dictator.
We are stupid because it's easier this way.
I have had to travel to China for business many times. In some ways they are more willing to assert themselves to protect their interests than Canadians are.
The CCP wouldn't dare block critical natural resource infrastructure and effectively fire people befor they are hired like Trudeau has done. Trudeau raised the carbon tax 33% in the middle of the worst economic slump in 90 years. The CCP knows they are allowed to continue in power as long as living standards continue to rise. Cost of living goes up, living standards go down and it's bye bye communist dynasty. True Dope doesn't have that worry. His employment is not affected by declining living standards. He has the freedom to fuck people the way the CCP doesn't.
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I have had to travel to China for business many times. In some ways they are more willing to assert themselves to protect their interests than Canadians are.
Yes, I'm trying to get a handle on how Canada is tracking at the moment.
We used to see Canadians as fellow travellers...our northern cousins with whom we had some affinity and shared values.
Now I'm not so sure. Canada seems to be falling under liberalism and losing what once made it great.
Opinion only. I may well be wrong and will stand corrected by my Canadian "amis".
You are on the right track. Canada is changing rapidly. I'm not speaking of demographics. This country has always believed in sound economic management whether the Liberals or the Conservatives were in power. We knew we were only great if we had a strong economy and an attainable middle class.
Something happened after Trudeau defeated Stephen Harper. Poll after poll shows Canadians place bread and butter issues below meeting Paris Agreement targets for example. Other polls however show Canadians think this country admits too many refugees, but Mr Trudeau ignores those polls.
In my opinion, younger Canadians take prosperity for granted. They don't see how Ottawa has eroded it in the name of climate action. This is still a very wealthy nation. It will take time, possibly a decade or more to start seeing the negative impact of today's policies.
I could see a brain drain of this country's top earners in the not too distan future.
South Korea will temporarily cut fuel taxes to soften the blow of skyrocketing gasoline prices, which put upward pressure on inflation.
Along with the temporary fuel tax cut, the government will also introduce a plan to lower tariff rates on imported liquefied natural gas -- currently at 2 percent -- to ease consumer burden stemming from a surge in energy prices.
Justine raised taxes and restricted domestic oil and gas production.
Canadians won't wake up until they get a good kick in the ass. Unless there is a reversal soon the kick is coming.
98 octane is nearly 2 euros per litre in Finland.
Thats high even for us.
120 euros to gas up your car.
Quote from: Odinson post_id=427081 time=1636782506 user_id=136
98 octane is nearly 2 euros per litre in Finland.
Thats high even for us.
120 euros to gas up your car.
Gas up your vehicle and live in it. Nobody can afford a home at those prices.
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98 octane is nearly 2 euros per litre in Finland.
Thats high even for us.
120 euros to gas up your car.
I don't know what that is.....perhaps same as regular gasoline here.
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Quote from: Odinson post_id=427081 time=1636782506 user_id=136
98 octane is nearly 2 euros per litre in Finland.
Thats high even for us.
120 euros to gas up your car.
Gas up your vehicle and live in it. Nobody can afford a home at those prices.
After True Dope bans internal combustion engines, abandoned cars will be the new dream of home ownership for millions of Canadians.
And we fill up, shut up and drive off.
Are we, thus, stupid?
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And we fill up, shut up and drive off.
Are we, thus, stupid?
According to our prime minister, yes you are.
I doubt that that sentiment is unique to your Prime Minister. All politicians rely and depend on the stupidity of the people they reign over.
When did a politician ever admit they were wrong and made a mistake.
Lie. Deceive. Cheat. Deny.
Every time.
And we let them get away with it.
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98 octane is nearly 2 euros per litre in Finland.
Thats high even for us.
120 euros to gas up your car.
I don't know what that is.....perhaps same as regular gasoline here.
We have 95-Octane, 98-Octane and Shell V-power fuels.
95-Octane is your premium gasoline.
98-Octane is your ultra gasoline.
The V-power gasoline turns your cars straight-four into a V-8 Hemi.
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I doubt that that sentiment is unique to your Prime Minister. All politicians rely and depend on the stupidity of the people they reign over.
When did a politician ever admit they were wrong and made a mistake.
Lie. Deceive. Cheat. Deny.
Every time.
And we let them get away with it.
Our pm is exceptionally stupid/inept. He assumes all of us are on his level.
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Quote from: Odinson post_id=427081 time=1636782506 user_id=136
98 octane is nearly 2 euros per litre in Finland.
Thats high even for us.
120 euros to gas up your car.
I don't know what that is.....perhaps same as regular gasoline here.
We have 95-Octane, 98-Octane and Shell V-power fuels.
95-Octane is your premium gasoline.
98-Octane is your ultra gasoline.
The V-power gasoline turns your cars straight-four into a V-8 Hemi.
Whatever. I just fill up when it's needed.
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Quote from: Odinson post_id=427081 time=1636782506 user_id=136
98 octane is nearly 2 euros per litre in Finland.
Thats high even for us.
120 euros to gas up your car.
I don't know what that is.....perhaps same as regular gasoline here.
We have 95-Octane, 98-Octane and Shell V-power fuels.
95-Octane is your premium gasoline.
98-Octane is your ultra gasoline.
The V-power gasoline turns your cars straight-four into a V-8 Hemi.
Whatever. I just fill up when it's needed.
Get some standards.
Your regular gas is bad for the engine.
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Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=427173 time=1636922457 user_id=56
Quote from: Odinson post_id=427124 time=1636860564 user_id=136
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=427088 time=1636819345 user_id=3254
Quote from: Odinson post_id=427081 time=1636782506 user_id=136
98 octane is nearly 2 euros per litre in Finland.
Thats high even for us.
120 euros to gas up your car.
I don't know what that is.....perhaps same as regular gasoline here.
We have 95-Octane, 98-Octane and Shell V-power fuels.
95-Octane is your premium gasoline.
98-Octane is your ultra gasoline.
The V-power gasoline turns your cars straight-four into a V-8 Hemi.
Whatever. I just fill up when it's needed.
Get some standards.
Your regular gas is bad for the engine.
True Dope is really bad for family finances. Priorities my Nordic friend.
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Quote from: Fashionista post_id=427088 time=1636819345 user_id=3254
Quote from: Odinson post_id=427081 time=1636782506 user_id=136
98 octane is nearly 2 euros per litre in Finland.
Thats high even for us.
120 euros to gas up your car.
I don't know what that is.....perhaps same as regular gasoline here.
We have 95-Octane, 98-Octane and Shell V-power fuels.
95-Octane is your premium gasoline.
98-Octane is your ultra gasoline.
The V-power gasoline turns your cars straight-four into a V-8 Hemi.
Whatever. I just fill up when it's needed.
Get some standards.
Your regular gas is bad for the engine.
I always thought which gasoline to choose depends on our engine type, unless I'm mistaken here.
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=427154 time=1636913622 user_id=114
Our pm is exceptionally stupid/inept. He assumes all of us are on his level.
Gasoline issues aside, is he not entitled to assume you are stupid if you continue to give him political power?
Frankly, if I were in his place and committed the range of idiotic acts people have described in this forum yet still get elected, I would have little respect for the intellectucal capacity of those who voted for me.
Canada, it may be argued, is a clear example of people turned stupid by politicians. Not the only one, but a good one nonetheless.
America is still by far the finest example, but past Australian political leaders indicate that we are well in the mix of stupid countries. In fact the current premier of Victoria might be clear evidence that we're near the top of the tree.
Only fools vote for fools, right?
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Quote from: seoulbro post_id=427154 time=1636913622 user_id=114
Our pm is exceptionally stupid/inept. He assumes all of us are on his level.
Gasoline issues aside, is he not entitled to assume you are stupid if you continue to give him political power?
Frankly, if I were in his place and committed the range of idiotic acts people have described in this forum yet still get elected, I would have little respect for the intellectucal capacity of those who voted for me.
Canada, it may be argued, is a clear example of people turned stupid by politicians. Not the only one, but a good one nonetheless.
America is still by far the finest example, but past Australian political leaders indicate that we are well in the mix of stupid countries. In fact the current premier of Victoria might be clear evidence that we're near the top of the tree.
Only fools vote for fools, right?
This hits home for Onarians like the Seoul broter and Zetsu. Their province keeps Justine in power.
True. It's ON that keeps him in for all of us
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I always thought which gasoline to choose depends on our engine type, unless I'm mistaken here.
Type, sort of. It's all about compression ratio and nothing else. High performance engines only need apply
Ours is 10 + so to run it on less than premium would be very foolish
Mate let me know about it and why as he wants nothing else in it
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True. It's ON that keeps him in for all of us
Then your exposing the flaw in our "democracy" perfectly.
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True. It's ON that keeps him in for all of us
Quote from: Zetsu post_id=427182 time=1636926470 user_id=61
I always thought which gasoline to choose depends on our engine type, unless I'm mistaken here.
Type, sort of. It's all about compression ratio and nothing else. High performance engines only need apply
Ours is 10 + so to run it on less than premium would be very foolish
Mate let me know about it and why as he wants nothing else in it
Ahh gotcha, I used to drive a Honda civic and was told my car only needs regular fuel and won't benefit from premium. I just googled out the fuel type and still so much for me to learn.
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True. It's ON that keeps him in for all of us
Then your exposing the flaw in our "democracy" perfectly.
In Canada's version of democracy, yes.
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True. It's ON that keeps him in for all of us
Then your exposing the flaw in our "democracy" perfectly.
In Canada's version of democracy, yes.
Our system is completely dysfunctional in the tasks a govt is supposed to perform to work for the benefit of all of its people
Quote from: Zetsu post_id=427219 time=1636967437 user_id=61
Ahh gotcha, I used to drive a Honda civic and was told my car only needs regular fuel and won't benefit from premium. I just googled out the fuel type and still so much for me to learn.
Very true. If compression is low, premium does no good. It's not that premium is "better in itself" ... it's simply needed for performance engines to operate correctly
Is more provincial power the answer to Canada's democratic malaise?
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Is more provincial power the answer to Canada's democratic malaise?
That is the way our confederation is meant to be. Trudeau has been ursurping provincial jusrisdiction since he came to power.
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Our pm is exceptionally stupid/inept. He assumes all of us are on his level.
Gasoline issues aside, is he not entitled to assume you are stupid if you continue to give him political power?
Frankly, if I were in his place and committed the range of idiotic acts people have described in this forum yet still get elected, I would have little respect for the intellectucal capacity of those who voted for me.
Canada, it may be argued, is a clear example of people turned stupid by politicians. Not the only one, but a good one nonetheless.
America is still by far the finest example, but past Australian political leaders indicate that we are well in the mix of stupid countries. In fact the current premier of Victoria might be clear evidence that we're near the top of the tree.
Only fools vote for fools, right?
Our Western voting systems are corrupt. To not elect a POS is a rare and wonderful thing.
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Quote from: Velvet post_id=427231 time=1636999163 user_id=2021
Is more provincial power the answer to Canada's democratic malaise?
That is the way our confederation is meant to be. Trudeau has been ursurping provincial jusrisdiction since he came to power.
Just like his old man did.
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To not elect a POS is a rare and wonderful thing.
Finally...after all these years!!!
You said something SMART!!!
:23tfup5:
If we're agreeing on something, I may need to re-examine my statement for fallacies or inaccuracies..
I read it twice. We're good.
I may need to fact check it with a non-authoritarian liberty lover.
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To not elect a POS is a rare and wonderful thing.
Finally...after all these years!!!
You said something SMART!!!
:23tfup5:
At the federal level in Canada, there is nothing to vote for.
Likewise here.
Which is why, despite the law mandating everybody MUST vote, I don't vote.
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Likewise here.
Which is why, despite the law mandating everybody MUST vote, I don't vote.
It's worse here. We have five parties in our federal parliament, All of them are centre-left. Take immigration and refugees. None of them mention it in their party platforms because they all believe more is better and you are a racist if you say the numbers are too high.
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Likewise here.
Which is why, despite the law mandating everybody MUST vote, I don't vote.
It's worse here. We have five parties in our federal parliament, All of them are centre-left. Take immigration and refugees. None of them mention it in their party platforms because they all believe more is better and you are a racist if you say the numbers are too high.
I've totally given on this democracy charade we have in Canada.
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Likewise here.
Which is why, despite the law mandating everybody MUST vote, I don't vote.
It's worse here. We have five parties in our federal parliament, All of them are centre-left. Take immigration and refugees. None of them mention it in their party platforms because they all believe more is better and you are a racist if you say the numbers are too high.
We have a choice of 2. Just 2. Every election. Everywhere. Just like the US, I suppose.
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Quote from: Bricktop post_id=427307 time=1637027557 user_id=1560
Likewise here.
Which is why, despite the law mandating everybody MUST vote, I don't vote.
It's worse here. We have five parties in our federal parliament, All of them are centre-left. Take immigration and refugees. None of them mention it in their party platforms because they all believe more is better and you are a racist if you say the numbers are too high.
We have a choice of 2. Just 2. Every election. Everywhere. Just like the US, I suppose.
What choice do we have when all parties want massive unsustainable immigration levels and climate change poverty.
Both are parties are close on most issues. There is a bit of "left vs right" on some issues such as immigration and climate change, but the distinction is small.
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Both are parties are close on most issues. There is a bit of "left vs right" on some issues such as immigration and climate change, but the distinction is small.
I look at India and Italy. They offer voters a real political spectrum. If we can't have political choice, we need more citizen initiatives. That won't happen though.
It won't happen as long as we sustain the dead system of representative government. Electing some ideological flunky who wants to be king or queen for their own fulfilment is an absurd means of managing our society.
The circumstances that led to electing a representative to speak for us in government deliberations are buried deep in the medieval past.
We can do better. We have the means to express our views directly to the government without mealy-mouthed middlemen and women distorting our views with their own.
We need the courage to make changes. Those who benefit from apathy and an anachronastic system won't hand back the reins willingly.
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It won't happen as long as we sustain the dead system of representative government. Electing some ideological flunky who wants to be king or queen for their own fulfilment is an absurd means of managing our society.
The circumstances that led to electing a representative to speak for us in government deliberations are buried deep in the medieval past.
We can do better. We have the means to express our views directly to the government without mealy-mouthed middlemen and women distorting our views with their own.
We need the courage to make changes. Those who benefit from apathy and an anachronastic system won't hand back the reins willingly.
I think direct democracy..
Taiwan uses that more than Canada.
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It won't happen as long as we sustain the dead system of representative government. Electing some ideological flunky who wants to be king or queen for their own fulfilment is an absurd means of managing our society.
The circumstances that led to electing a representative to speak for us in government deliberations are buried deep in the medieval past.
We can do better. We have the means to express our views directly to the government without mealy-mouthed middlemen and women distorting our views with their own.
We need the courage to make changes. Those who benefit from apathy and an anachronastic system won't hand back the reins willingly.
I think direct democracy..
Taiwan uses that more than Canada.
It aint happening here. Ottawa doesn't trust citizens.
No government will willingly yield their power back to the people.
But until we are willing to work as a single community with fairness and justice distributed equally we probably don't deserve it.
When I say fairness and justice, I mean for ALL, not shrieking minorities.
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It won't happen as long as we sustain the dead system of representative government. Electing some ideological flunky who wants to be king or queen for their own fulfilment is an absurd means of managing our society.
The circumstances that led to electing a representative to speak for us in government deliberations are buried deep in the medieval past.
We can do better. We have the means to express our views directly to the government without mealy-mouthed middlemen and women distorting our views with their own.
We need the courage to make changes. Those who benefit from apathy and an anachronastic system won't hand back the reins willingly.
The checks and balances were there in all Western societies, but got slowly whittled down via democracy.
Without a Bill of Enshrined Rights and the willingness and ability of the people to push back, democracies turn dictatorships....
Which is why limited term elections are worthwhile modifications of the current selection process as to who gets to put their snout in the trough.
I think America's 2 term limit on the President is a good start, but why shouldn't it apply to ALL elected politicians.
I'd be happy to allow 5 year terms for the top job, maximum of 2 terms. This will also apply to cabinet ministers.
For the rest, 4 year terms, maximum of 2.
The standard superannuation rules will apply to politicians as with other peons. You get back what you put in. The current super privileges our MP's get encourages them to stay in their jobs long after their value has decreased to zero. There will be a limit on candidates from identical vocations; no more than 2 lawyers, 2 unionists, 2 doctors, 2 truck drivers...maybe 3.
A plebiscite of 10% of the voters in an electorate can recall the MP in the case of unacceptable conduct.
A plebiscite of 10% of voters in any FIVE electorates can recall the PM or Minister.
Premiers and state politicians are excluded because they will be eliminated as unnecessary. No state governments. Having three levels of government, as we do in Australia, is simply another means of stifling the public will.
Political parties should be banned...but if that's a bridge too far, then pre-selection processes are outlawed, as is enforcing voting along party lines. No MP shall be penalised for voting in accordance with his electorates wishes, rather than a party.
If parties are permitted to continue, political donations to them will be banned. Donations can be made to individuals up to a certain limit and no further.
Judges and Heads of Departments will be appointed subject to a public tribunals, and those appointments are reviewed every two years unless the judge or bureaucrat quits before the review is due.
See. System repaired.
You're welcome.
There are issues with your proposal....
State governments need to remain as a balance against Federal overreach and vice versa.... but codifying the rights in stone for both is necessary. They've burst their constraints but retreated in other ways.
Superannuation is a forced service and has no place in a free society.
Those are non starters for me. There are some merit to your other points.
Without a bill of civil rights linked to a nationhood kill switch (ie. Nation must be dissolved if any of the rights are violated) and the human right to self defence, we'll be right back where we are now.
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It won't happen as long as we sustain the dead system of representative government. Electing some ideological flunky who wants to be king or queen for their own fulfilment is an absurd means of managing our society.
The circumstances that led to electing a representative to speak for us in government deliberations are buried deep in the medieval past.
We can do better. We have the means to express our views directly to the government without mealy-mouthed middlemen and women distorting our views with their own.
We need the courage to make changes. Those who benefit from apathy and an anachronastic system won't hand back the reins willingly.
The checks and balances were there in all Western societies, but got slowly whittled down via democracy.
Without a Bill of Enshrined Rights and the willingness and ability of the people to push back, democracies turn dictatorships....
We have a Charter of Rights and Freedoms in Canada.....it hasn't stopped Justin Trudeau from taking more power away from people and provinces.
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It won't happen as long as we sustain the dead system of representative government. Electing some ideological flunky who wants to be king or queen for their own fulfilment is an absurd means of managing our society.
The circumstances that led to electing a representative to speak for us in government deliberations are buried deep in the medieval past.
We can do better. We have the means to express our views directly to the government without mealy-mouthed middlemen and women distorting our views with their own.
We need the courage to make changes. Those who benefit from apathy and an anachronastic system won't hand back the reins willingly.
The checks and balances were there in all Western societies, but got slowly whittled down via democracy.
Without a Bill of Enshrined Rights and the willingness and ability of the people to push back, democracies turn dictatorships....
We have a Charter of Rights and Freedoms in Canada.....it hasn't stopped Justin Trudeau from taking more power away from people and provinces.
There has to be a dissolution/kill switch mechanism when human rights are violated, plus the ability of citizens to physically rise up.
You don't have those, you have what we have everywhere now.
One thing I like about the US is that it keeps a check on American politicians. Activist judges are the problem.
How, then, does Nancy Pelosi and her husband make millions over investments in businesses directly influenced by her role in the government?
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How, then, does Nancy Pelosi and her husband make millions over investments in businesses directly influenced by her role in the government?
Congress is a great way to get rich.
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=427400 time=1637140259 user_id=1676
There are issues with your proposal....
State governments need to remain as a balance against Federal overreach and vice versa.... but codifying the rights in stone for both is necessary. They've burst their constraints but retreated in other ways.
Superannuation is a forced service and has no place in a free society.
Those are non starters for me. There are some merit to your other points.
Without a bill of civil rights linked to a nationhood kill switch (ie. Nation must be dissolved if any of the rights are violated) and the human right to self defence, we'll be right back where we are now.
There are issues with every proposal.
The problem is we've lost the ability to respect different views and to look from anothers perspective.
You've convinced me on superannuation...it's just another scam to take your money so they can pay politicians fortunes for doing nothing when they get voted out.
We're not going to agree on State governments, but I refer you to the recent and ongoing debacle in Australia of the Covid response. We have a Federal government and 8 State governments all pulling in different directions and locking down borders contrary to the Constitution they wave in our faces when WE demand change.
When did humans NOT have the right to defend themselves? ac_dunno
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=427439 time=1637184882 user_id=1560
How, then, does Nancy Pelosi and her husband make millions over investments in businesses directly influenced by her role in the government?
Isn't Washington's lobbying industry wonderful.
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=427412 time=1637145253 user_id=114
One thing I like about the US is that it keeps a check on American politicians.
The constitution prevents them from abusing power, but not from enriching themselves.
Ah. There had to be a reason.
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=427471 time=1637202152 user_id=1560
Ah. There had to be a reason.
And after they leave congress they become lobbyists. Pigs at the frickin trough.
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Quote from: seoulbro post_id=427412 time=1637145253 user_id=114
One thing I like about the US is that it keeps a check on American politicians.
The constitution prevents them from abusing power, but not from enriching themselves.
Not if they stack the various courts.... then they can do both with rubber stamp approvals.
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Quote from: Bricktop post_id=427471 time=1637202152 user_id=1560
Ah. There had to be a reason.
And after they leave congress they become lobbyists. Pigs at the frickin trough.
Lobbyists should be given one of two options.
Find another job, or put the blindfold on and stand against the wall. It is despicable element of government.
Lots of MPs seem to be getting high positions in corporations after their term is done.
It is as if they get rewarded for something.
Quote from: Odinson post_id=427503 time=1637209927 user_id=136
Lots of MPs seem to be getting high positions in corporations after their term is done.
It is as if they get rewarded for something.
I noticed that too.