The reason I don't venture far from this community is that quite frankly the competition appeals to adults who stopped maturing before they reached puberty. We were more for adults. That has changed lately. No longer do we reply with actual rebuttals. That has been replaced with kindergarten insults, laffy lol's, no yuo, and the oh so boring deflection, "you seem" this or that.
I've been here almost since the beginning. The reason I stay is because I like how the discussions flow. The reason I am not having fun anymore is because there are no more discussions. Lame insults and memes have replaced it. It reminds me of my brief time at SG.
Is it just me? How do other people feel about this? Has the tone changed in your opinion? Do you like the change? Has it improved the flow of discussions? I look forward to feedback.
A "flame" forum? Hardly lol.
Oh, and in case you didnt read that..... LOL.
toxic? absolutely.... flame forum? absolutely NOT....
Oh, and while you're counting "lol's and memes" as flames, dont forget "ridiculing and attacking a guy out of the blue while his little sister is dying" either. Or was that ok since they your friends?
Quote from: deadskinmask post_id=433218 time=1641347685 user_id=1582
toxic? absolutely.... flame forum? absolutely NOT....
He plays golf. Need I say more? :laugh:
Quote from: deadskinmask post_id=433218 time=1641347685 user_id=1582
toxic? absolutely.... flame forum? absolutely NOT....
OK. I can live with "recently turned VERY toxic"
:laugh:
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Is it just me?
No
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Has the tone changed in your opinion?
Yes
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Do you like the change?
It is what it is. We are dealing with uneducated white Americans. What did you expect? A dissertation on assessing social motivations during vaccination decisions.
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Has it improved the flow of discussions?
Obviously not.
Say what you want, but last I checked, I havent seen this many members on at once in a looooooong time.
:pop:
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Say what you want, but last I checked, I havent seen this many members on at once in a looooooong time.
:pop:
I can't see.... Shen's flapjack butt is blocking the view.
You leave Shen's butt out of this!!
Quote from: Blazor post_id=433239 time=1641349554 user_id=2221
Say what you want, but last I checked, I havent seen this many members on at once in a looooooong time.
That's true, but that's not why posters like myself or cc post here. We are for decent discussions, not kindergarten flame forum antics. It's never been about traffic with me anyway. If it was, I would have registered at whatever flame board is harbouring the SG refugees.
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Do you like the change?
It is what it is. We are dealing with uneducated white Americans. What did you expect? A dissertation on assessing social motivations during vaccination decisions.
:MG_216:
No decent discussions can happen here unless one conforms to the consensus. No offence, but there are a lot of closed minded people here.
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=433253 time=1641350211 user_id=1676
No decent discussions can happen here unless one conforms to the consensus. No offence, but there are a lot of closed minded people here.
Bullshit. Look at the Seoul brother and Ceec. Look at Kiebers and Fash. They disagree and still use their brains. It can be done.
Disagreement is fine. Attacking material before a review of it is not.
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=433215 time=1641347318 user_id=114
The reason I don't venture far from this community is that quite frankly the competition appeals to adults who stopped maturing before they reached puberty. We were more for adults. That has changed lately. No longer do we reply with actual rebuttals. That has been replaced with kindergarten insults, laffy lol's, no yuo, and the oh so boring deflection, "you seem" this or that.
I've been here almost since the beginning. The reason I stay is because I like how the discussions flow. The reason I am not having fun anymore is because there are no more discussions. Lame insults and memes have replaced it. It reminds me of my brief time at SG.
Is it just me? How do other people feel about this? Has the tone changed in your opinion? Do you like the change? Has it improved the flow of discussions? I look forward to feedback.
Let's be clear, flamers don't debate. I was a regular on SG, I know that. The CBT ladies posted more memes in a day than old Blazor in a month. We aint there yet, but things are a changing here.
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=433261 time=1641351459 user_id=1676
Disagreement is fine. Attacking material before a review of it is not.
Then cut it out.
Flaming is based in debate.. you've only seen SG.... it wasn't a classic flame forum.
Quote from: Herman post_id=433263 time=1641351513 user_id=1689
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=433261 time=1641351459 user_id=1676
Disagreement is fine. Attacking material before a review of it is not.
Then cut it out.
I do it far less than many here...
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Disagreement is fine. Attacking material before a review of it is not.
Fk the material
Attacking people is what's been goin on of late
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Disagreement is fine. Attacking material before a review of it is not.
Fk the material
Attacking people is what's been goin on of late
Yep
I understand the sentiment of the thread, but we are as far from a flame forum as you can get. With respect, unless you've been active on forums that overtly claim to be flame forums then they are just chat forums with some trolls exciting the punters.
A flame forum demands its exponents to insult, demean, degrade and humiliate its members at all times. It is cage match fighting.
We're just a knitting circle where a couple of members have raised the aggro levels a little. If the main protagonists calmed their farm and toned down the pointless and silly insults we'd be just fine.
So who is going to apologise first to Blazor and me? ac_biggrin
I will be happy too, were I guilty of inappropriate oprobrium.
:MG_216:
i'm with bricktop.... i've not committed no inappropriate ouroboras....
I too have not committed any inappropriate acts with flaming kookaburras...
one time i got drunk and ate a choco taco....
I do not regard our exchanges as inappropriate, because it has been that way for over a decade, and it ain't gonna change any time soon. You slap me, I slap you, we've been through the harsh extremities of Brawl Hall and so give no fucks either way. Water off a ducks back...although I've never made a recording about how much I despise you (an act of yours that gave me enormous pride and pleasure).
It would be inaccurate to categorise our banter in the same way as that between you, Blaze and cc for example. There's some real venom there that is way out of place.
We seem to be emulating what is happening in the world outside. Division, bitterness, anger and hatred.
That is something we should ALL try to redress.
If I have caused any member undue and legitimate duress by any comment I have made, I offer an unconditional apology and will make a concerted effort to cease and desist such behaviour.
what about ol' skinz? nobody gonna come round and hug me? its okay.... i get it....
C'mon skin-man...you get a lot of love here, despite your rather controversial beliefs. You've always been welcome.
yall treat me good. thats true.... but i like to be included in a good ol' snugglefest occasionally.... sometimes i do shit just to have a chance to apologize.... sometimes i do shit just to have an opportunity to fight too....
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=433276 time=1641352866 user_id=1560
I do not regard our exchanges as inappropriate, because it has been that way for over a decade, and it ain't gonna change any time soon. You slap me, I slap you, we've been through the harsh extremities of Brawl Hall and so give no fucks either way. Water off a ducks back...although I've never made a recording about how much I despise you (an act of yours that gave me enormous pride and pleasure).
It would be inaccurate to categorise our banter in the same way as that between you, Blaze and cc for example. There's some real venom there that is way out of place.
We seem to be emulating what is happening in the world outside. Division, bitterness, anger and hatred.
That is something we should ALL try to redress.
If I have caused any member undue and legitimate duress by any comment I have made, I offer an unconditional apology and will make a concerted effort to cease and desist such behaviour.
It's all a game though underlying smiling or smirks often don't translate through the written word or through other mediums like voice and strategies/goals often not broadcast.
Despite our collective disagreements here, there is no venom.... but the perception of venom can sometimes amuse.
But I won't engage in most in-depth conversations here until all parties operate in good faith otherwise it's a pointless waste of time.
I know you know what I'm getting at, as it's as much intentional as unintentional at various points....and I'm cool with it either way as a switch hitter.
If people want to move towards less one upmanship and disses, instead choosing reasoned and fair discussion, bring it on...
I may not care to get bogged down in lengthy debates on some topics nor will you, but we're free to exercise our restraint and leave these things alone.

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Quote from: Bricktop post_id=433276 time=1641352866 user_id=1560
We seem to be emulating what is happening in the world outside. Division, bitterness, anger and hatred.
That is something we should ALL try to redress.
Well said...
It is "Well said." ^^
This all didn't "just happen"
How so? Elaborate please....
I owe you the Square Root of Fuck All
But tell me how you really feel....
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=433268 time=1641352109 user_id=1560
I understand the sentiment of the thread, but we are as far from a flame forum as you can get. With respect, unless you've been active on forums that overtly claim to be flame forums then they are just chat forums with some trolls exciting the punters.
A flame forum demands its exponents to insult, demean, degrade and humiliate its members at all times. It is cage match fighting.
We're just a knitting circle where a couple of members have raised the aggro levels a little. If the main protagonists calmed their farm and toned down the pointless and silly insults we'd be just fine.
What old Blazor and DD are doing aint too far from the CBT faggots at SG did. Disrupt, spam and add nothing.
Quote from: Herman post_id=433297 time=1641355568 user_id=1689
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=433268 time=1641352109 user_id=1560
I understand the sentiment of the thread, but we are as far from a flame forum as you can get. With respect, unless you've been active on forums that overtly claim to be flame forums then they are just chat forums with some trolls exciting the punters.
A flame forum demands its exponents to insult, demean, degrade and humiliate its members at all times. It is cage match fighting.
We're just a knitting circle where a couple of members have raised the aggro levels a little. If the main protagonists calmed their farm and toned down the pointless and silly insults we'd be just fine.
What old Blazor and DD are doing aint too far from the CBT faggots at SG did. Disrupt, spam and add nothing.
That's an unfair assessment and comparison.
This has been a closed shop for us on some topics and while I can't speak on Blazor's behalf, we've only given as good as we've gotten.
Anglo-Saxons have too much estrogen and that is why these cat-fights happen.
Have a pill of patriotism to boost your testosterone levels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v54vZ4W8598
And for the Queens loyal subjects..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akbzRuZmqVM
:laugh:
For the Scandinavians:
https://youtu.be/ptfZ3IPkAOY
ac_razz
Camilla Henemark was pretty hot in her youth.
Perfect blowjob lips.
Yeah, she was absolutely stunning in her day...
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=433299 time=1641355767 user_id=1676
Quote from: Herman post_id=433297 time=1641355568 user_id=1689
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=433268 time=1641352109 user_id=1560
I understand the sentiment of the thread, but we are as far from a flame forum as you can get. With respect, unless you've been active on forums that overtly claim to be flame forums then they are just chat forums with some trolls exciting the punters.
A flame forum demands its exponents to insult, demean, degrade and humiliate its members at all times. It is cage match fighting.
We're just a knitting circle where a couple of members have raised the aggro levels a little. If the main protagonists calmed their farm and toned down the pointless and silly insults we'd be just fine.
What old Blazor and DD are doing aint too far from the CBT faggots at SG did. Disrupt, spam and add nothing.
That's an unfair assessment and comparison.
This has been a closed shop for us on some topics and while I can't speak on Blazor's behalf, we've only given as good as we've gotten.
Thank you for speaking on my behalf my friend, you are spot on.
My toying did not come about til I was provoked.
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=433215 time=1641347318 user_id=114
The reason I don't venture far from this community is that quite frankly the competition appeals to adults who stopped maturing before they reached puberty. We were more for adults. That has changed lately. No longer do we reply with actual rebuttals. That has been replaced with kindergarten insults, laffy lol's, no yuo, and the oh so boring deflection, "you seem" this or that.
I've been here almost since the beginning. The reason I stay is because I like how the discussions flow. The reason I am not having fun anymore is because there are no more discussions. Lame insults and memes have replaced it. It reminds me of my brief time at SG.
Is it just me? How do other people feel about this? Has the tone changed in your opinion? Do you like the change? Has it improved the flow of discussions? I look forward to feedback.
I pm'd Christmas greetings to members here including some who rarely make an appearance anymore..
One of those infrequent posters replied with some of the same concerns you've expressed Seoul.
Quote from: Odinson post_id=433301 time=1641356266 user_id=136
Anglo-Saxons have too much estrogen and that is why these cat-fights happen.
Have a pill of patriotism to boost your testosterone levels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v54vZ4W8598
Mr Smarty Pants.
We must be careful not to over-sanitise our expectations. Forums are, by definition, a gathering place where viewpoints are exchanged, discussed and debated. If everyone had the same viewpoint, there would be no forums.
I've said before...it you want to start an argument between 2 humans, just put them in a room together and say "Black".
We will argue because that's why we're here. And some find the exercise frustrating and leave, or visit rarely. This is the way, as some spacemen say.
But arguing and abusing are 2 different things, and there are a large proportion of the members here that are being rather abusive to their peers.
If we were that interested, we might search back until we find a post that took the "I disagree" approach and made it "You're a fucking idiot" debate.
But we're not that interested. As the senior citizen here, I could call upon you kiddies to act like adults, but I doubt anyone would take notice.
But I cannot help but wonder where this path leads? How many forums have disappeared in the last few years simply because members couldn't play nicely any more.
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=433331 time=1641362774 user_id=1560
We must be careful not to over-sanitise our expectations. Forums are, by definition, a gathering place where viewpoints are exchanged, discussed and debated. If everyone had the same viewpoint, there would be no forums.
I've said before...it you want to start an argument between 2 humans, just put them in a room together and say "Black".
We will argue because that's why we're here. And some find the exercise frustrating and leave, or visit rarely. This is the way, as some spacemen say.
But arguing and abusing are 2 different things, and there are a large proportion of the members here that are being rather abusive to their peers.
If we were that interested, we might search back until we find a post that took the "I disagree" approach and made it "You're a fucking idiot" debate.
But we're not that interested. As the senior citizen here, I could call upon you kiddies to act like adults, but I doubt anyone would take notice.
But I cannot help but wonder where this path leads? How many forums have disappeared in the last few years simply because members couldn't play nicely any more.
I agree Bricktop.....some of the things I've noticed too recently have left me wondering where this is going..
One of the reasons most forums ban Seamajor is that he doesn't know how to play nice which negatively affects the community..
As our most senior poster, do you have any recommendations that would save us from the same fate as so many other little communities in the past few years?
Senior poster?
Lol.... he was a late add in who we had to train up like a young grasshoppa' in all things Flame and Trollyagi- Do
ac_biggrin
1. Make it clearer that the main board is for discussion and Rejected or whatever is for shit slinging. Spirited debates are fine but take it to Rejected if you want to sledge with impunity. There you can do anything legal or non TOS violating to your hearts content.....but it stays there.
2. Consider allowing call out threads on the main board to redirect into Rejected so people can put each other on notice publicly but not have it destroy the serenity of the main page.
3. Repeat violators get their avatars changed to something embarrassing for a predetermined amount of time, and a three strikes and a time out policy for the feisty ones with pancake butts (Hi, Shen!.... ac_razz )
4. Mild stirring is acceptable on the main page threads. Maliciousness not. Most of us can recognize the difference except possibly Mainlanders who can uniformly press leaves and flowers for scrapbooks with just their butts....
5. Memes are allowed in any thread but no single person can post more than 5 except if it's a dedicated meme thread.
6. If debate adversaries in a main page thread refuse to read/view/watch/listen to information or multimedia supplied by the other, the onus is on the person doing the refusing to cease debate or they should take it to Rejected and carry on. No legitimate discussion can happen if one side refuses to deal with the other side's sources, even if they are considered suspect by one party.
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=433336 time=1641368322 user_id=1676
1. Make it clearer that the main board is for discussion and Rejected or whatever is for shit slinging. Spirited debates are fine but take it to Rejected if you want to sledge with impunity. There you can do anything legal or non TOS violating to your hearts content.....but it stays there.
2. Consider allowing call out threads on the main board to redirect into Rejected so people can put each other on notice publicly but not have it destroy the serenity of the main page.
3. Repeat violators get their avatars changed to something embarrassing for a predetermined amount of time, and a three strikes and a time out policy for the feisty ones with pancake butts (Hi, Shen!.... ac_razz )
4. Mild stirring is acceptable on the main page threads. Maliciousness not. Most of us can recognize the difference except possibly Mainlanders who can uniformly press leaves and flowers for scrapbooks with just their butts....
5. Memes are allowed in any thread but no single person can post more than 5 except if it's a dedicated meme thread.
What if a thread states in it's title no memes?
The others seem reasonable enough in my opinion..
Anyone else?
7. Anybody who writes or voices the word "shenanigans" either on TBC or through Vocaroo.com gets a time out for 1 day.
https://youtu.be/JNPW2wZ4D2s
Edit: No Memes threads are fair enough, but no person can make more than 1-3 of them per year?
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=433276 time=1641352866 user_id=1560
I do not regard our exchanges as inappropriate, because it has been that way for over a decade, and it ain't gonna change any time soon. You slap me, I slap you, we've been through the harsh extremities of Brawl Hall and so give no fucks either way. Water off a ducks back...although I've never made a recording about how much I despise you (an act of yours that gave me enormous pride and pleasure).
It would be inaccurate to categorise our banter in the same way as that between you, Blaze and cc for example. There's some real venom there that is way out of place.
We seem to be emulating what is happening in the world outside. Division, bitterness, anger and hatred.
That is something we should ALL try to redress.
If I have caused any member undue and legitimate duress by any comment I have made, I offer an unconditional apology and will make a concerted effort to cease and desist such behaviour.
Unfortunately this is true, and it's spilling into many threads.
Quote from: Herman post_id=433297 time=1641355568 user_id=1689
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=433268 time=1641352109 user_id=1560
I understand the sentiment of the thread, but we are as far from a flame forum as you can get. With respect, unless you've been active on forums that overtly claim to be flame forums then they are just chat forums with some trolls exciting the punters.
A flame forum demands its exponents to insult, demean, degrade and humiliate its members at all times. It is cage match fighting.
We're just a knitting circle where a couple of members have raised the aggro levels a little. If the main protagonists calmed their farm and toned down the pointless and silly insults we'd be just fine.
What old Blazor and DD are doing aint too far from the CBT faggots at SG did. Disrupt, spam and add nothing.
It's funny you should mention CBT..
We had one poster from that forum register here.....I believe his handle is apeman at CBT and Admin at BF..
The only posts he made here were anti Donald Trump memes..
It didn't matter the topic of the thread, that's what he posted..
We restricted him to Rejected and he never posted or rather spammed again again.
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=433342 time=1641370107 user_id=3254
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=433276 time=1641352866 user_id=1560
I do not regard our exchanges as inappropriate, because it has been that way for over a decade, and it ain't gonna change any time soon. You slap me, I slap you, we've been through the harsh extremities of Brawl Hall and so give no fucks either way. Water off a ducks back...although I've never made a recording about how much I despise you (an act of yours that gave me enormous pride and pleasure).
It would be inaccurate to categorise our banter in the same way as that between you, Blaze and cc for example. There's some real venom there that is way out of place.
We seem to be emulating what is happening in the world outside. Division, bitterness, anger and hatred.
That is something we should ALL try to redress.
If I have caused any member undue and legitimate duress by any comment I have made, I offer an unconditional apology and will make a concerted effort to cease and desist such behaviour.
Unfortunately this is true, and it's spilling into many threads.
I didn't realize... I have a high tolerance to venom and it doesn't register especially if I'm responding to someone and chuckling to myself while doing it.
But I do realize I have a rather dark sense of humour and I enjoy riling up people.
Maybe I could tone it down with some of the rule changes or actions Kiebers and you are considering.
As Bricktop mentioned with he and I, it's all water off a ducks back, but others may not have had the necessary experiences to arrive to such an understanding.
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=433345 time=1641370613 user_id=1676
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=433342 time=1641370107 user_id=3254
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=433276 time=1641352866 user_id=1560
I do not regard our exchanges as inappropriate, because it has been that way for over a decade, and it ain't gonna change any time soon. You slap me, I slap you, we've been through the harsh extremities of Brawl Hall and so give no fucks either way. Water off a ducks back...although I've never made a recording about how much I despise you (an act of yours that gave me enormous pride and pleasure).
It would be inaccurate to categorise our banter in the same way as that between you, Blaze and cc for example. There's some real venom there that is way out of place.
We seem to be emulating what is happening in the world outside. Division, bitterness, anger and hatred.
That is something we should ALL try to redress.
If I have caused any member undue and legitimate duress by any comment I have made, I offer an unconditional apology and will make a concerted effort to cease and desist such behaviour.
Unfortunately this is true, and it's spilling into many threads.
I didn't realize... I have a high tolerance to venom and it doesn't register especially if I'm responding to someone and chuckling to myself while doing it.
But I do realize I have a rather dark sense of humour and I enjoy riling up people.
Maybe I could tone it down with some of the rule changes or actions Kiebers and you are considering.
As Bricktop mentioned with he and I, it's all water off a ducks back, but others may not have had the necessary experiences to arrive to such an understanding.
We can't become like BF or it's predecessors, TRF and SG.....that will be our eulogy..
You made some reasonable suggestions to restore order, let's wait to see what others have to say.....it's early in the morning in North America....only Mel is still awake.
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=433215 time=1641347318 user_id=114
The reason I don't venture far from this community is that quite frankly the competition appeals to adults who stopped maturing before they reached puberty. We were more for adults. That has changed lately. No longer do we reply with actual rebuttals. That has been replaced with kindergarten insults, laffy lol's, no yuo, and the oh so boring deflection, "you seem" this or that.
I've been here almost since the beginning. The reason I stay is because I like how the discussions flow. The reason I am not having fun anymore is because there are no more discussions. Lame insults and memes have replaced it. It reminds me of my brief time at SG.
Is it just me? How do other people feel about this? Has the tone changed in your opinion? Do you like the change? Has it improved the flow of discussions? I look forward to feedback.
We got rid of Seamoron, but his two sons are here carrying on their dad's work.
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=433331 time=1641362774 user_id=1560
But arguing and abusing are 2 different things, and there are a large proportion of the members here that are being rather abusive to their peers.
If we were that interested, we might search back until we find a post that took the "I disagree" approach and made it "You're a fucking idiot" debate.
But we're not that interested. As the senior citizen here, I could call upon you kiddies to act like adults, but I doubt anyone would take notice.
But I cannot help but wonder where this path leads? How many forums have disappeared in the last few years simply because members couldn't play nicely any more.
The forum is so much better since those two idiots started that-said nobody.
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=433337 time=1641369169 user_id=1676
1. Make it clearer that the main board is for discussion and Rejected or whatever is for shit slinging. Spirited debates are fine but take it to Rejected if you want to sledge with impunity. There you can do anything legal or non TOS violating to your hearts content.....but it stays there.
2. Consider allowing call out threads on the main board to redirect into Rejected so people can put each other on notice publicly but not have it destroy the serenity of the main page.
3. Repeat violators get their avatars changed to something embarrassing for a predetermined amount of time, and a three strikes and a time out policy for the feisty ones with pancake butts (Hi, Shen!.... ac_razz )
4. Mild stirring is acceptable on the main page threads. Maliciousness not. Most of us can recognize the difference except possibly Mainlanders who can uniformly press leaves and flowers for scrapbooks with just their butts....
5. Memes are allowed in any thread but no single person can post more than 5 except if it's a dedicated meme thread.
Cool, I can make a spread sheet for each thread to keep up with the number of meme's posted. ]
6. If debate adversaries in a main page thread refuse to read/view/watch/listen to information or multimedia supplied by the other, the onus is on the person doing the refusing to cease debate or they should take it to Rejected and carry on. No legitimate discussion can happen if one side refuses to deal with the other side's sources, even if they are considered suspect by one party.
Current rules
5. If we believe your intention is to be irritating, obnoxious or make the board less fun for others we will confine to Rejected or revoke your posting privileges.
The way the "debate" is going on vaccines, this rule could apply, and I would be required to restrict 7-8 members there. I can only imagine how that would be recieved. Although, not much imagination is needed to know how much outrage would come from members about that.
7. If you are going to troll, please do so in the Rejected section of our board.
In other words, for the most part, do what the original forum rules say to do. We need members to remain within the context the original rules lay out. The last thing we need is more rules.
I guess we could restrict people to rejected, but I can only imagine how that will go down when someone believes they are right and others are wrong. Lord knows how many "I didn't start it they did" we will get out of that. Right now due to the language/attitude that is going on, I would restrict some on both sides of the issue to rejected. There is no debate going on here. People are firmly entrenched.
Maybe we need another (gasp) sub forum for debate. I could move threads there to keep the crap down. Of course we would still have all the butt hurt that would bleed into other forums so probably not a good idea.
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In other words, for the most part, do what the original forum rules say to do. We need members to remain within the context the original rules lay out. The last thing we need is more rules.
People have insulted each other enough that bad feelings have developed between members. I may wind up moving all of the vaccine threads to rejected. But then again, it wouldn't do any good, it seems those bad feelings creep their way into all threads.
All in all, it winds up on the backs of the adult members to police themselves in these threads. I can't make you change, and if I go the tough route, a good number of y'all will be restricted to rejected for quite a while.
Basically, some of you need to slow your roll on the main and take it to Rejected before I have to force the issue.
I don't think anybody needs to be confined to Rejected or should be.
I have seen you move posts there when things got out of hand on the main board. People usually get the message right away when that happens. Calm quickly returns. Anyway, that's my cents.
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But arguing and abusing are 2 different things, and there are a large proportion of the members here that are being rather abusive to their peers.
If we were that interested, we might search back until we find a post that took the "I disagree" approach and made it "You're a fucking idiot" debate.
But we're not that interested. As the senior citizen here, I could call upon you kiddies to act like adults, but I doubt anyone would take notice.
But I cannot help but wonder where this path leads? How many forums have disappeared in the last few years simply because members couldn't play nicely any more.
The forum is so much better since those two idiots started that-said nobody.
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We got rid of Seamoron, but his two sons are here carrying on their dad's work.
Thanks for convincing me to move this thread. ac_biggrin
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But arguing and abusing are 2 different things, and there are a large proportion of the members here that are being rather abusive to their peers.
If we were that interested, we might search back until we find a post that took the "I disagree" approach and made it "You're a fucking idiot" debate.
But we're not that interested. As the senior citizen here, I could call upon you kiddies to act like adults, but I doubt anyone would take notice.
But I cannot help but wonder where this path leads? How many forums have disappeared in the last few years simply because members couldn't play nicely any more.
The forum is so much better since those two idiots started that-said nobody.
Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=433359 time=1641386383 user_id=2015
We got rid of Seamoron, but his two sons are here carrying on their dad's work.
Thanks for convincing me to move this thread. ac_biggrin
Oh shit. SB will know exactly who to blame.
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Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=433361 time=1641386503 user_id=2015
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=433331 time=1641362774 user_id=1560
But arguing and abusing are 2 different things, and there are a large proportion of the members here that are being rather abusive to their peers.
If we were that interested, we might search back until we find a post that took the "I disagree" approach and made it "You're a fucking idiot" debate.
But we're not that interested. As the senior citizen here, I could call upon you kiddies to act like adults, but I doubt anyone would take notice.
But I cannot help but wonder where this path leads? How many forums have disappeared in the last few years simply because members couldn't play nicely any more.
The forum is so much better since those two idiots started that-said nobody.
Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=433359 time=1641386383 user_id=2015
We got rid of Seamoron, but his two sons are here carrying on their dad's work.
Thanks for convincing me to move this thread. ac_biggrin
Oh shit. SB will know exactly who to blame.
Trust me you're not the only one...LOL
IHJ, I don't care that this thread has been moved. The purpose of this thread was a reminder that we are not a flame forum. We have this section for spam and school yard battles.
Given the entrenched views held by many members here, I'd have to seriously consider whether proceeding with a turn the other cheek approach or vacating entirely would be the best option.
I don't say that as a threat but how I feel people like Blazor and me have been held to a different standard, and to a lesser extent....DSM.
Though in DSM's defence (not that he needs it), he approaches all this in a flippant manner. I do too.... but from an animalistic place he probably doesn't get.
When I see disparities on how people engage with us, I'm like "alright, motherfucker.....game on". It isn't personal on my half but I will get under such a skin and get them barking like a feral dog or make them bark like a cat pretending to be a feral dog. It's what I do....I'm good at it. I've had over 35 years of practice doing as such. When I read between the lines and ascertain the underlying thoughts, motives, insecurities, egos, and hubris... I attack but more to the point, I set up domino blocks and bide my time. I don't need a panel of judges to render judgement on whether I'm successful. I can read it for myself and celebrate or try harder the next time should I not quite get the result my goal was aimed for.
This is online chess.
I suck at offline chess.
But if you want such an animal to be marginally domesticated (and I have done it to myself multitudes of times since I first registered here in 2015 for various reasons), you've got to apply the same pressure to your flock.
I'm actually not a nasty fellow and I don't believe anyone here is nasty either.... except maybe Shen Li's pancake arse farts...
....but I can't abide by double standards and if I have to behave, I expect others to follow the same regiment.
well.... my attitude towards this is pretty laid back.... my journey wasn't so much one of 'discovery' so much as it was an 'unburdening of issues'.... things that seem to latch on and drain you of your reasoning and independence.... i shook all that shit right off.... i know this is gonna get worse before it gets better.... i also understand that i can't make anyone come with me.... so its not really an issue for me.... yeah.... i think yall made a terrible error in judgement.... and yeah. i think yall have fucked yourselves and your future generations.... but i also know that until 'they' announce it, explaining it to yall is pointless....
I can only speak for myself. I don't take issue with anyone who disagrees with me. Fash and cc know I wanted a regular left of centre poster to challenge my fiscal conservatism. Unfortunately, the ones who registered were drive by artists. Such is forum life.
Why was this thread which was made to address and fix a serious problem rather than just let it go on .. of all threads ... moved here?
especially when there has been so much site-wrecking & usually childish junk posted of late
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Why was this thread which was made to address and fix a serious problem rather than just let it go on .. of all threads ... moved here?
If I had to guess, it was when Iron Horse started hurling insults.
????????????????????????????????
I just checked IHJ's posts and they were not 1/100th as bad as what we have been getting of late. He was quite gentle from what I saw
And he did not use a single dumb meme NOR a plethora of embarrassing childish laffy faces and insults DESIGNED to turn the site into a Kindergarten
He did nothing out of line .. unless expression of the decent many feel is a problem here now
Ok CovidKaren :001_rolleyes:
Perhaps you should move on, if you want it to stop.
Or is that Karen with a C?
CovidCaren lol.
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Ok CovidKaren :001_rolleyes:
[size=150]Perhaps you should move on[/size], if you want it to stop.
Careful now. You are giving away EXACTLY what you came back here to achieve ... and not just with regard to myself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIIufQKM2K0&t=18s

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I am beginning to suspect that this thread is an indication that this forum is on the road to imminent ruin and extinction.
It reflects modern society. One side thinks it's right and the other side must therefore be evil.
Fault lines are appearing, which if left unaddressed will become fractures and ultimate collapse.
The evidence clearly shows that the animosity on display is genuine. Unless those responsible accept that their behaviour is not in the best interests of the forum, then my advice to members is to start looking for an alternative venue. Good luck with that.
I hear Van is looking for new members.
This critter came here to make people leave ... period - I knew it all along, but now he put it out in the open
First by blatant disruption c/w a million dumb laffy faces, meems ++++++
Now he's telling me to leave.. giving away his motive for others who maybe couldn't see the game for what it was
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Ok CovidKaren :001_rolleyes:
Perhaps you should move on, if you want it to stop.
Sorry mate, Deliberate contrived Disruption >> Takeover when he killed the site so no one wanted to post here is the WHOLE problem
If you couldn't see it for what it was or don't have the balls to call it for what it is, I have the ovaries to
Which critter are you referring to?
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Quote from: cc post_id=433412 time=1641417181 user_id=88
Why was this thread which was made to address and fix a serious problem rather than just let it go on .. of all threads ... moved here?
If I had to guess, it was when Iron Horse started hurling insults.
Wait a minute there partner. That was a reaction, frustration at the bullshit on the main board.
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=433420 time=1641421804 user_id=1560
I am beginning to suspect that this thread is an indication that this forum is on the road to imminent ruin and extinction.
It reflects modern society. One side thinks it's right and the other side must therefore be evil.
Fault lines are appearing, which if left unaddressed will become fractures and ultimate collapse.
The evidence clearly shows that the animosity on display is genuine. Unless those responsible accept that their behaviour is not in the best interests of the forum, then my advice to members is to start looking for an alternative venue. Good luck with that.
I hear Van is looking for new members.
I heard the owner of VF is pulling the pin on it.
But, this coronavirus and the never ending government imposed restrictions are taking it's toll on all of us. You and old Shen Li are right, the Americans have have taken to conspiracy theories as a coping mechanism. Whatever floats their boat I guess. But, some of the shit that was on the main board should have been here in the first place. Insults are fine up here. Hell, people may even have something to say about my flat head and green skin. I promise not to cry if they do.
I myself am intrigued by the bolts in your neck. What are they for?
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I myself am intrigued by the bolts in your neck. What are they for?
To prevent the barrel wash from leaking out on it's way down of course. Come man, think before you ask questions with obvious answers.
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Where is this flaming? I ain't seen no flaming here
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Where is this flaming? I ain't seen no flaming here
Frankly I never saw any flaming during my brief time on SG either. I would post, some "flamer" replies that I eat dogs. That is not a knock against you, flaming looks unimpressive to me. But hey, I am a nerd.
The tone has changed here. Bricktop too has noticed this. It's primarily two people, one is a fake meme spammer and the other posts childish laffys and insults. Although I am in agreement with most of their views on the pandemic, the way they respond is not us. At least not on the main board. Basically, grow up or shut up.
Flaming is not abusing!!!
It is a far different craft.
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=433455 time=1641436649 user_id=1560
Flaming is not abusing!!!
It is a far different craft.
I made an appearance recently at BF..
I was greeted with a puerile racial tirade by a man approaching sixty years old who pretends to be a young woman..
The only examples of flaming I've seen anywhere are from yourself and Blurt.
Much of Freuds contributions are more flaming than abuse...but as I think he stated elsewhere, some members here won't see the subtle difference.
But he's been drawn into bitter personal confrontation and his posts are more inclined to be aggressive abuse than jocular flaming.
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Much of Freuds contributions are more flaming than abuse...but as I think he stated elsewhere, some members here won't see the subtle difference.
But he's been drawn into bitter personal confrontation and his posts are more inclined to be aggressive abuse than jocular flaming.
He doesn't have the intellect for flaming. None of those dumb white Americans at BF do.
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Ok CovidKaren :001_rolleyes:
[size=150]Perhaps you should move on[/size], if you want it to stop.
Careful now. You are giving away EXACTLY what you came back here to achieve ... and not just with regard to myself
There you go again, I'll go into further detail based on your next post.
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This critter came here to make people leave ... period - I knew it all along, but now he put it out in the open
First by blatant disruption c/w a million dumb laffy faces, meems ++++++
Now he's telling me to leave.. giving away his motive for others who maybe couldn't see the game for what it was
Quote from: Blazor post_id=433415 time=1641418188 user_id=2221
Ok CovidKaren :001_rolleyes:
Perhaps you should move on, if you want it to stop.
Sorry mate, Deliberate contrived Disruption >> Takeover when he killed the site so no one wanted to post here is the WHOLE problem
If you couldn't see it for what it was or don't have the balls to call it for what it is, I have the ovaries to
Hey, you, the product of that island that made experimental animals, yeah, YOU!
You are full of shit, like you always been since the start of covid. I bet you are so full of shit that your eyes are brown and your hair too.
I "came here" LONG ago. When have I ever wanted folks to leave? I've done nothing but love you guys from day one.
You dumb cunt, when I said "perhaps you should move on", I was referring to your bitterness here. Harry and I played nice all day, while you were still bitter. And STILL are! Butt hurt much? Attack me, and then claim innocent? Dont work that way.
You get your way, by complaining and whining. I see how it is. How many PMs have you sent out to Fash and company? Im honestly curious.
Y'all motherfuckers attacked me, when I posted one fucking thing, that wasnt "fact checked", at a time my sister was dying, you fucking bitch. FUCK YOU! THOSE are the only motherfuckers I have a problem with right now! Not the whole site, you dumb ass cunt! Pull your panties out yo ass! They wedged too deep!
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Where is this flaming? I ain't seen no flaming here
Aint no flaming, just angry cunts :laugh:
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Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=433444 time=1641434346 user_id=2845
Where is this flaming? I ain't seen no flaming here
Frankly I never saw any flaming during my brief time on SG either. I would post, some "flamer" replies that I eat dogs. That is not a knock against you, flaming looks unimpressive to me. But hey, I am a nerd.
The tone has changed here. Bricktop too has noticed this. It's primarily two people, one is a fake meme spammer and the other posts childish laffys and insults. Although I am in agreement with most of their views on the pandemic, the way they respond is not us. At least not on the main board. Basically, grow up or shut up.
Oh I see. So I pop in, and react accordingly to how I was treated a couple months ago, after reading that those certain people never shut the fuck up about me, and suddenly its ME? Wtf man?
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=433455 time=1641436649 user_id=1560
Flaming is not abusing!!!
It is a far different craft.
There has been no flaming here. Flaming is meant to be humorous, you and I know that.
What's flaming?
I think everyone needs to take off their pants and relax.
Freud is posting ass crack photo's at BF, so he is halfway there already.
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Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=433444 time=1641434346 user_id=2845
Where is this flaming? I ain't seen no flaming here
Frankly I never saw any flaming during my brief time on SG either. I would post, some "flamer" replies that I eat dogs. That is not a knock against you, flaming looks unimpressive to me. But hey, I am a nerd.
The tone has changed here. Bricktop too has noticed this. It's primarily two people, one is a fake meme spammer and the other posts childish laffys and insults. Although I am in agreement with most of their views on the pandemic, the way they respond is not us. At least not on the main board. Basically, grow up or shut up.
Oh I see. So I pop in, and react accordingly to how I was treated a couple months ago, after reading that those certain people never shut the fuck up about me, and suddenly its ME? Wtf man?
I don't know what you are referring to. But, I do know some two year old threads have taken a dramatic change. You and DD have a posting style is not conducive to the spirit of those threads. Take a look at dsm's style. He agrees with both of you as I do too, but he can present a rebuttal without turning into something that makes Seamajor blush.
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What's flaming?
I think everyone needs to take off their pants and relax.
Freud is posting ass crack photo's at BF, so he is halfway there already.
I'v been told it's roasting..
But, what I see at BF is not roasting.
Quote from: Poppy post_id=433501 time=1641446347 user_id=3287
What's flaming?
I don't know. I've read lots of boasting about past flaming prowess, but I've never seen any examples of it.
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Quote from: Poppy post_id=433501 time=1641446347 user_id=3287
What's flaming?
I don't know. I've read lots of boasting about past flaming prowess, but I've never seen any examples of it.
There were folks on SG who talked about flaming and matches, but I didn't see the walk to back up the talk.
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=433455 time=1641436649 user_id=1560
Flaming is not abusing!!!
It is a far different craft.
Flaming is making an opponent look bad, whether with comedy, aggression, or both.
Quote from: Poppy post_id=433501 time=1641446347 user_id=3287
What's flaming?
I think everyone needs to take off their pants and relax.
Freud is posting ass crack photo's at BF, so he is halfway there already.
^ this is an average mild flame with a quotient of comedy in it. It's not got a malicious angle to it besides building on the faux contempt Fox and I have fostered at each other over more modern years.
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Much of Freuds contributions are more flaming than abuse...but as I think he stated elsewhere, some members here won't see the subtle difference.
But he's been drawn into bitter personal confrontation and his posts are more inclined to be aggressive abuse than jocular flaming.
He doesn't have the intellect for flaming. None of those dumb white Americans at BF do.
^ this is a generic Shen Li flame. She's just mad that people pick on her flat CCP nationalism farting pancake butt.
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=433464 time=1641438081 user_id=1560
Much of Freuds contributions are more flaming than abuse...but as I think he stated elsewhere, some members here won't see the subtle difference.
But he's been drawn into bitter personal confrontation and his posts are more inclined to be aggressive abuse than jocular flaming.
Aggressive abuse taps on a different facet of the game, which you'll know of... it's part of flaming.
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Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=433444 time=1641434346 user_id=2845
Where is this flaming? I ain't seen no flaming here
Frankly I never saw any flaming during my brief time on SG either. I would post, some "flamer" replies that I eat dogs. That is not a knock against you, flaming looks unimpressive to me. But hey, I am a nerd.
The tone has changed here. Bricktop too has noticed this. It's primarily two people, one is a fake meme spammer and the other posts childish laffys and insults. Although I am in agreement with most of their views on the pandemic, the way they respond is not us. At least not on the main board. Basically, grow up or shut up.
Oh I see. So I pop in, and react accordingly to how I was treated a couple months ago, after reading that those certain people never shut the fuck up about me, and suddenly its ME? Wtf man?
I don't know what you are referring to. But, I do know some two year old threads have taken a dramatic change. You and DD have a posting style is not conducive to the spirit of those threads. Take a look at dsm's style. He agrees with both of you as I do too, but he can present a rebuttal without turning into something that makes Seamajor blush.
Flaming and inciting responses from opponents for personal amusement isn't always about a popularity contest. It's often designed to highlight disparity and double standards or to just simply wind somebody up and laugh at them spin. Quote from: Fashionista post_id=433513 time=1641458078 user_id=3254
Quote from: Poppy post_id=433501 time=1641446347 user_id=3287
What's flaming?
I think everyone needs to take off their pants and relax.
Freud is posting ass crack photo's at BF, so he is halfway there already.
I'v been told it's roasting..
But, what I see at BF is not roasting.
That was Poofer's attempt to change the game. It never took off. His idea of roasts would never have worked.
However, one wants to define flaming, I don't think flame forums are for me and vice versa..
There are some people on flame forums I really like though.
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However, one wants to define flaming, I don't think flame forums are for me and vice versa..
There are some people on flame forums I really like though.
I've heard a lot about these great flamers, but I've never seen anything other than chest thumping.
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Quote from: Fashionista post_id=433865 time=1641629173 user_id=3254
However, one wants to define flaming, I don't think flame forums are for me and vice versa..
There are some people on flame forums I really like though.
I've heard a lot about these great flamers, but I've never seen anything other than chest thumping.
The bravado is a big part of it.... one needs cajones to walk digitally into a new place and stir the locals without getting banned from the get go.
It's kind of like online martial arts.
Ask Fox (Poppy) about how it's done.... ask Bricktop too (Rotwang). It isn't an exact science but there are methods to get under the skin and rile up individuals, whole forums, and start really fruitful shit shows that can last near indefinitely.
Take for instance my occasional use of the phrase 'lil choo choo boy" towards you. It's paid dividends. I'm no train driver but I did get a ride along where two aussie blokes let me control the deceleration and acceleration of the diesel train going through NSW, according to their strict instructions (do this, do that, not enough, too much sort of thing)... they sat there watching me like a hawk and if at any point I didn't do exactly like they said, there would two big beefy guys ready to remove me..... not that they needed to... one of the guys was an old employee in my prior company and we'd worked for years with each other. I got the ride along because the company was hiring new potential drivers. I had applied and the company ok'd the ride. They drove us all out in a luxury cab because on that day, they couldn't get their assured normal.
So my stating that train drivers are just bus drivers on training wheels is obviously mischievous.
But it worked.
You maintained that I was a liar, and if I wasn't, people were up for criminal prosecution or firings.
It was all kosher though.
I repeatedly got told that if even fast tracked, it would take 18-36 months to get accreditation. Signalling was first and foremost, then the interesting shit.
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=433889 time=1641637480 user_id=1676
Ask Fox (Poppy) about how it's done.... ask Bricktop too (Rotwang). It isn't an exact science but there are methods to get under the skin and rile up individuals, whole forums, and start really fruitful shit shows that can last near indefinitely.
Take for instance my occasional use of the phrase 'lil choo choo boy" towards you. It's paid dividends. I'm no train driver but I did get a ride along where two aussie blokes let me control the deceleration and acceleration of the diesel train going through NSW, according to their strict instructions (do this, do that, not enough, too much sort of thing)... they sat there watching me like a hawk and if at any point I didn't do exactly like they said, there would two big beefy guys ready to remove me..... not that they needed to... one of the guys was an old employee in my prior company and we'd worked for years with each other. I got the ride along because the company was hiring new potential drivers. I had applied and the company ok'd the ride. They drove us all out in a luxury cab because on that day, they couldn't get their assured normal.
So my stating that train drivers are just bus drivers on training wheels is obviously mischievous.
But it worked.
You maintained that I was a liar, and if I wasn't, people were up for criminal prosecution or firings.
It was all kosher though.
I repeatedly got told that if even fast tracked, it would take 18-36 months to get accreditation. Signalling was first and foremost, then the interesting shit.
I f you believe so.