how they will check your vaccine passports in the year 2023.... :laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2o2FRwn_hg
That's what I love about ya deader - you never give up on lost causes
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That's what I love about ya deader - you never give up on lost causes
there are no 'lost causes'.... only abandoned ones.... and if they're abandoned, there couldn't have been much worth fighting for to begin with....
keep up the good fight
Just please tell your friends to stop filling up our hospitals on a 20 / 1 on a per population basis & I'm good with it
We have Govt insurance here, and I may have to start a good fight to make them pay their fair share being as they are filling them up "by choice"
After-Edit: point being, I'm paying their hospital costs as it stands now
indeed....
Quote from: cc post_id=433600 time=1641502303 user_id=88
keep up the good fight
Just please tell your friends to stop filling up our hospitals on a 20 / 1 on a per population basis & I'm good with it
We have Govt insurance here, and I may have to start a good fight to make them pay their fair share
my friends? i have no friends in the hospital.... and you go ahead and 'start a good fight'.... i would begin that 'good fight' with a medical audit and demand transparency with covid numbers....
Not remotely concerned about that. It's not a problem we have here
I'm only concerned about my having to pay for the 20 / 1 (on per population basis) unvaxxed in hospitals & for much longer time periods
That's my cause for the moment
Otherwise, it's all good
then stop paying.... my tax money goes to nasa.... you think i'm okay with that? lmmfao.... :laugh:
nasa .. I get it ... ac_smile
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how they will check your vaccine passports in the year 2023.... :laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2o2FRwn_hg
I missed my booster appointment. The old lady rescheduled me for next week. My guests will be gone then, so I will make it this time.
But, to answer your question I assume they update your QR code. I hadn't though much about it.
I got my third dose. My DNA hasn't changed. We will see if I catch the new variant. And if I do I can stay home instead of going to a hospital.
I suspect that by the 4th booster injection, people will finally realize that we just have to live with covid and there's no combating it will jab campaigns.
However, gooberments will drag their feet about relinquishing their new dictatorial powers and will continue trying to set people against each other...
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=433642 time=1641518464 user_id=1676
I suspect that by the 4th booster injection, people will finally realize that we just have to live with covid and there's no combating it will jab campaigns.
However, gooberments will drag their feet about relinquishing their new dictatorial powers and will continue trying to set people against each other...
So long as hospitalizations are mostly unvaxxed (currently by a very wide margin) + being unvaxxed so sick they have to stay much longer , no one will stop getting a shot
It's a no brainer
End of story
No, it's not end of story. That's a BS story.
But do what you want and push as much propaganda as you like... Idgaf. The world is toast and purebloods are waiting to inherit it.
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Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=433642 time=1641518464 user_id=1676
I suspect that by the 4th booster injection, people will finally realize that we just have to live with covid and there's no combating it will jab campaigns.
However, gooberments will drag their feet about relinquishing their new dictatorial powers and will continue trying to set people against each other...
So long as hospitalizations are mostly unvaxxed (currently by a very wide margin) + being unvaxxed so sick they have to stay much longer , no one will stop getting a shot
It's a no brainer
End of story
I don't care if the unvaxxed want to get really sick. If they are that stupid, go for it. But, I don't want to pay for their recalcitrance. And so far, that is what they have forced me to do.
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=433655 time=1641523299 user_id=1676
No, it's not end of story. That's a BS story.
But do what you want and push as much propaganda as you like... Idgaf. The world is toast and purebloods are waiting to inherit it.
I invited you to submit solid data on your claim above & you failed to - that says you are unaware of anything & being lead by your nose by phony made up stories
Meaning anything you say is made up or gleaned from unreliable sources
= meaningless
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Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=433642 time=1641518464 user_id=1676
I suspect that by the 4th booster injection, people will finally realize that we just have to live with covid and there's no combating it will jab campaigns.
However, gooberments will drag their feet about relinquishing their new dictatorial powers and will continue trying to set people against each other...
So long as hospitalizations are mostly unvaxxed (currently by a very wide margin) + being unvaxxed so sick they have to stay much longer , no one will stop getting a shot
It's a no brainer
End of story
I don't care if the unvaxxed want to get really sick. If they are that stupid, go for it. But, I don't want to pay for their recalcitrance. And so far, that is what they have forced me to do.
That's my gripe - having to pay for losers who literally got themselves very ill :oeudC:
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Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=433655 time=1641523299 user_id=1676
No, it's not end of story. That's a BS story.
But do what you want and push as much propaganda as you like... Idgaf. The world is toast and purebloods are waiting to inherit it.
I invited you to submit solid data on your claim above & you failed to - that says you are unaware of anything & being lead by your nose by phony made up stories
Meaning anything you say is made up or gleaned from unreliable sources
= meaningless
:001_rolleyes:
What part of IDGAF isn't registering with you? The last thing I'm going to do is a curate a list of info for you to turn your nose up over like a trained covid circus seal since neither one of us is going to budge anyway. You only accept MSM/government sanctioned disinformation.
You believe the path to normalcy is injecting every single person and their dog with an experimental group of drugs on an open ended rolling schedule which don't stop the infection or its transmission as variants have inevitably become so mild now that it should be preferable for people to have omicron parties and spit in each other's mouths.
I believe these jabs are crap and they're causing more death and social chaos than any minimal benefit they're said to convey.
So we can continue to snipe at each other till the cows come home. I'm very confident my summary of what's happened and will continue to happen will ring true.
People will die, supply chains breakdown, social chaos will prevail, and I'll be on the other side of it eyeing up my by then rotting neighbours blue water yacht or other assorted possessions that have no heirs to go to....
...and I'm finding an island to get away from what's left of the raging fucktards.
You use a lot of prose to try to escape providing evidence for most all you say
Keep dancing my pretty
No, yuo....
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No, yuo....
its obvious that patience isn't your strongest virtue.... but inevitably you're still gonna have to wait.... its obvious that they will continue to juggle numbers and change definitions for as long as possible.... i imagine around booster number 6 these ppl will start to catch on.... i'm eager to see how they frame the situation when they're forced to come clean....
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That's my gripe - having to pay for losers who literally got themselves very ill :oeudC:
You will therefore support moves to disbar smokers, sportsmen, the elderly, the morbidly obese, drug dependants, incompetent drivers, single mothers, the clumsy, those with a genetic disposition to cancer, those with mental health issues and people who don't wear sunblock from that health system that you fund, I presume. These, by your definition as I understand it, are "losers" because of poor life choices.
These groups cost you FAR more than people with Covid symptoms in the grand scheme of things.
But, in keeping with the abrogation of human rights we might as well go the whole way.
Like it or not, "Universal Health" does not mean health care for all except people who are irresponsible as to their general well being.
The cost of treating Covid patients, at least here, is a mere speck on the whiteboard of health budgetary management.
I support vaccinations, and encourage everyone to be innoculated, FOR THEIR OWN SAKE.
I support the rights of people everywhere to choose what is injected into their own bodies, and the rights of parents to choose what is best for their child.
So far, other than emotive and sanctimonious lambasting, I have not seen any argument which renders my views invalid.
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Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=433669 time=1641526352 user_id=1676
No, yuo....
its obvious that patience isn't your strongest virtue.... but inevitably you're still gonna have to wait.... its obvious that they will continue to juggle numbers and change definitions for as long as possible.... i imagine around booster number 6 these ppl will start to catch on.... i'm eager to see how they frame the situation when they're forced to come clean....
I've got zero patience or respect anymore for a lot of these people. Does it show? ac_smile
My only concern now is protecting my family from them for as long as it takes for the whole house of cards to come tumbling down.
It's been difficult though.... because of the vindictive policies levelled at us from every strata of this unhinged society.
Good luck, brother....
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I've got zero patience or respect anymore for a lot of these people. Does it show? ac_smile
Come on now, Freud. Your respect and admiration for me has never wavered.
:JC_howdy:
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I've got zero patience or respect anymore for a lot of these people. Does it show? ac_smile
Come on now, Freud. Your respect and admiration for me has never wavered.
:JC_howdy:
:laugh3:
I don't care what others do with their bodies though I'm uneasy with abortions, especially later abortions. It's not just one body.
The town and region I live in is a hub of tourism.
I'm amazed that I havent been infected.
I've been around relatives and other folks.
Minimizing social contacts is the best option.
Thats how they controlled outbreaks of plague and small pox.
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Quote from: cc post_id=433659 time=1641524354 user_id=88
That's my gripe - having to pay for losers who literally got themselves very ill :oeudC:
You will therefore support moves to disbar smokers, sportsmen, the elderly, the morbidly obese, drug dependants, incompetent drivers, single mothers, the clumsy, those with a genetic disposition to cancer, those with mental health issues and people who don't wear sunblock from that health system that you fund, I presume. These, by your definition as I understand it, are "losers" because of poor life choices.
These groups cost you FAR more than people with Covid symptoms in the grand scheme of things.
Exactly BT. :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
This is hypocritical as well as being dangerous rationalizing. I smoked for twenty seven years. I paid a lot of taxes through my former habit to support our health care system. If I had developed lung cancer would they refuse to treat me.
I am sorry cc and IHJ, but this is not a justification for discrimination against the unvaccinated.
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Quote from: cc post_id=433659 time=1641524354 user_id=88
That's my gripe - having to pay for losers who literally got themselves very ill :oeudC:
You will therefore support moves to disbar smokers, sportsmen, the elderly, the morbidly obese, drug dependants, incompetent drivers, single mothers, the clumsy, those with a genetic disposition to cancer, those with mental health issues and people who don't wear sunblock from that health system that you fund, I presume. These, by your definition as I understand it, are "losers" because of poor life choices.
These groups cost you FAR more than people with Covid symptoms in the grand scheme of things.
But, in keeping with the abrogation of human rights we might as well go the whole way.
Like it or not, "Universal Health" does not mean health care for all except people who are irresponsible as to their general well being.
The cost of treating Covid patients, at least here, is a mere speck on the whiteboard of health budgetary management.
I support vaccinations, and encourage everyone to be innoculated, FOR THEIR OWN SAKE.
I support the rights of people everywhere to choose what is injected into their own bodies, and the rights of parents to choose what is best for their child.
So far, other than emotive and sanctimonious lambasting, I have not seen any argument which renders my views invalid.
In a Drama Queen mode I see
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Quote from: Bricktop post_id=433674 time=1641527092 user_id=1560
Quote from: cc post_id=433659 time=1641524354 user_id=88
That's my gripe - having to pay for losers who literally got themselves very ill :oeudC:
You will therefore support moves to disbar smokers, sportsmen, the elderly, the morbidly obese, drug dependants, incompetent drivers, single mothers, the clumsy, those with a genetic disposition to cancer, those with mental health issues and people who don't wear sunblock from that health system that you fund, I presume. These, by your definition as I understand it, are "losers" because of poor life choices.
These groups cost you FAR more than people with Covid symptoms in the grand scheme of things.
Exactly BT. :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
This is hypocritical as well as being dangerous rationalizing. I smoked for twenty seven years. I paid a lot of taxes through my former habit to support our health care system. If I had developed lung cancer would they refuse to treat me.
I am sorry cc and IHJ, but this is not a justification for discrimination against the unvaccinated.
What discrimination? No one is advocating doing anything against them.
PS - everyone has a right to gripe about unfairness brought on by irresponsibility .. which is the case here
Oh, and my gripe is not just cost of the irresponsible's care (which actually is already large and will be very large before we are done with this) ,, and not as Brick pontificates
but more so the otherwise unnecessary hospital fillings causing serious harm to others with serious and time-precious attention that it brings with it .... (something no one else has managed to voluntarily achieve in our history far as I can recall)
Anyone who cares to argue that is a good thing, the floor is their's
For argument's sake, how would you feel in 3 years if the jabbed were suddenly developing severe life threatening conditions needing hospitalisations and us purebloods said, "meh.... how selfish! I'm not paying huge taxes to mollycoddle these people"?
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Quote from: cc post_id=433659 time=1641524354 user_id=88
That's my gripe - having to pay for losers who literally got themselves very ill :oeudC:
You will therefore support moves to disbar smokers, sportsmen, the elderly, the morbidly obese, drug dependants, incompetent drivers, single mothers, the clumsy, those with a genetic disposition to cancer, those with mental health issues and people who don't wear sunblock from that health system that you fund, I presume. These, by your definition as I understand it, are "losers" because of poor life choices.
These groups cost you FAR more than people with Covid symptoms in the grand scheme of things.
Exactly BT. :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
This is hypocritical as well as being dangerous rationalizing. I smoked for twenty seven years. I paid a lot of taxes through my former habit to support our health care system. If I had developed lung cancer would they refuse to treat me.
I am sorry cc and IHJ, but this is not a justification for discrimination against the unvaccinated.
hmmm
ac_umm
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Quote from: Bricktop post_id=433674 time=1641527092 user_id=1560
Quote from: cc post_id=433659 time=1641524354 user_id=88
That's my gripe - having to pay for losers who literally got themselves very ill :oeudC:
You will therefore support moves to disbar smokers, sportsmen, the elderly, the morbidly obese, drug dependants, incompetent drivers, single mothers, the clumsy, those with a genetic disposition to cancer, those with mental health issues and people who don't wear sunblock from that health system that you fund, I presume. These, by your definition as I understand it, are "losers" because of poor life choices.
These groups cost you FAR more than people with Covid symptoms in the grand scheme of things.
But, in keeping with the abrogation of human rights we might as well go the whole way.
Like it or not, "Universal Health" does not mean health care for all except people who are irresponsible as to their general well being.
The cost of treating Covid patients, at least here, is a mere speck on the whiteboard of health budgetary management.
I support vaccinations, and encourage everyone to be innoculated, FOR THEIR OWN SAKE.
I support the rights of people everywhere to choose what is injected into their own bodies, and the rights of parents to choose what is best for their child.
So far, other than emotive and sanctimonious lambasting, I have not seen any argument which renders my views invalid.
In a Drama Queen mode I see
I think it's time I pointed something out to you.
YOU are at the epicentre of the insults, aggravation and disharmony that we are experiencing.
I do not accuse you of instigation. I have no idea "who started it". But you are as culpable as anyone else because you simply cannot discuss this matter with any dignity, respect or acceptance that others have a different view than you.
I acknowledge that you have been the brunt of insults. But your response is to throw fuel on the fire. Then you complain that it's too hot in here.
You have alleged that some here are here to dismantle or destroy this forum. That is asinine and absurd. You have even implied that I am involved with this plot.
Your are not, in my view, demonstrating conduct other than that against which you rail. You are a hypocrite in that respect. You are not discussing or debating anything as far as I can see. You are crusading and ignoring the fact that other people have valid issues that are worthy of DISCUSSION.
I do not condone the abuse you've received. But I cannot help think that you are bringing this on yourself with your haughty and condescending attitude to the subject at hand. I made a comment which reflects my view that no argument has yet been forwarded to justify the unlawful measures that have been inflicted on all of us. YOUR NAME WAS NOT MENTIONED, NOR WAS MY COMMENT DIRECTED AT ANY PARTICULAR PERSON.
But you accuse me of being a drama queen???? Is that what you regard as an adult response.
I cannot be help but think that behind your hostility is an essence of sexism against males. Not for the first time have you made snide remarks at male posters, myself included.
Some of us have made it clear that things need to change around here. You have not heeded that message. I note that Freud has attempted to temper his demeanour in discussions...a rare thing, I can testify to.
But you don't get it. You have no idea that you are part of this problem. Here's a newsflash from the elder statesman of this forum; you ARE part of the problem. The last time I took a powder it was because of YOUR attitude, and I can say with confidence I am not the first to tire of it.
There we go, folks. The senior member has thrown a hand grenade into our heart. Let's see who has the maturity and commitment to this community to turn things around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehnGqY_5RxQ
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I note that Freud has attempted to temper his demeanour in discussions.
I only do that for Kiebers and Fash.
My gut instinct, as you know, is to fan such stuff to forum imploding bitch-fight fruition...but a few people here don't understand it's for sport rather than malice. And more than a few don't comprehend that a legitimate issue can be enmeshed with no small or large degree of peacocking and hubris in order to get under then turned up skin.
I have no skin in the game towards making Kieber's or Fash's job any harder, so I fall on my sword...
...but that sword is conveniently situated exactly between my torso and closet outermost arm.
If I pull it out again, it's to slay somebody in one fell swoop or in notches. I prefer notches. I really like notches. The swoop only gives one a momentarily fleeting euphoria. The notches feeds an ego for years or decades.
Bricktop knows a bit about me... we go back maybe 17-18 years. Listen to Bricktop on this. I'm not some King Martini internet warrior (though he does have his great merits).... I've been more like a slow burn. Such burns started out a long time ago and capped at weeks....then months, then decades.
And I invite cc to approach me in pm for a legitimately honest and private talk that never gets broadcast unless the cone of silence gets broken.
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Quote from: Bricktop
I note that Freud has attempted to temper his demeanour in discussions.
I only do that for Kiebers and Fash.
My gut instinct, as you know, is to fan such stuff to forum imploding bitch-fight fruition...but a few people here don't understand it's for sport rather than malice. And more than a few don't comprehend that a legitimate issue can be enmeshed with no small or large degree of peacocking and hubris in order to get under then turned up skin.
I have no skin in the game towards making Kieber's or Fash's job any harder, so I fall on my sword...
...but that sword is conveniently situated exactly between my torso and closet outermost arm.
If I pull it out again, it's to slay somebody in one fell swoop or in notches. I prefer notches. I really like notches. The swoop only gives one a momentarily fleeting euphoria. The notches feeds an ego for years or decades.
Bricktop knows a bit about me... we go back maybe 17-18 years. Listen to Bricktop on this. I'm not some King Martini internet warrior (though he does have his great merits).... I've been more like a slow burn. Such burns started out a long time ago and capped at weeks....then months, then decades.
And I invite cc to approach me in pm for a legitimately honest and private talk that never gets broadcast unless the cone of silence gets broken.
I really appreciate that DD.
ac_smile
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Quote from: Bricktop
I note that Freud has attempted to temper his demeanour in discussions.
I only do that for Kiebers and Fash.
My gut instinct, as you know, is to fan such stuff to forum imploding bitch-fight fruition...but a few people here don't understand it's for sport rather than malice. And more than a few don't comprehend that a legitimate issue can be enmeshed with no small or large degree of peacocking and hubris in order to get under then turned up skin.
I have no skin in the game towards making Kieber's or Fash's job any harder, so I fall on my sword...
...but that sword is conveniently situated exactly between my torso and closet outermost arm.
If I pull it out again, it's to slay somebody in one fell swoop or in notches. I prefer notches. I really like notches. The swoop only gives one a momentarily fleeting euphoria. The notches feeds an ego for years or decades.
Bricktop knows a bit about me... we go back maybe 17-18 years. Listen to Bricktop on this. I'm not some King Martini internet warrior (though he does have his great merits).... I've been more like a slow burn. Such burns started out a long time ago and capped at weeks....then months, then decades.
And I invite cc to approach me in pm for a legitimately honest and private talk that never gets broadcast unless the cone of silence gets broken.
I really appreciate that DD.
ac_smile
Thank Bricktop too... he's been watching me operate and wondering how to manage it this time... and to his credit, he dropped the cunthound and bravado, in order to address both sides of the divide.
He cares about this forum heaps too...
As do cc and IHJ...
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I don't care what others do with their bodies though I'm uneasy with abortions, especially later abortions. It's not just one body.
It's a conundrum for those of us who defend liberty. I am pro choice, but not late term. That is ghastly.
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=433690 time=1641534503 user_id=1676
For argument's sake, how would you feel in 3 years if the jabbed were suddenly developing severe life threatening conditions needing hospitalisations and us purebloods said, "meh.... how selfish! I'm not paying huge taxes to mollycoddle these people"?
I think that is unlikely, but it is analogous. This is a slippery slope that cc and IHJ are advocating.
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Quote from: Bricktop
I note that Freud has attempted to temper his demeanour in discussions.
I only do that for Kiebers and Fash.
My gut instinct, as you know, is to fan such stuff to forum imploding bitch-fight fruition...but a few people here don't understand it's for sport rather than malice. And more than a few don't comprehend that a legitimate issue can be enmeshed with no small or large degree of peacocking and hubris in order to get under then turned up skin.
I have no skin in the game towards making Kieber's or Fash's job any harder, so I fall on my sword...
...but that sword is conveniently situated exactly between my torso and closet outermost arm.
If I pull it out again, it's to slay somebody in one fell swoop or in notches. I prefer notches. I really like notches. The swoop only gives one a momentarily fleeting euphoria. The notches feeds an ego for years or decades.
Bricktop knows a bit about me... we go back maybe 17-18 years. Listen to Bricktop on this. I'm not some King Martini internet warrior (though he does have his great merits).... I've been more like a slow burn. Such burns started out a long time ago and capped at weeks....then months, then decades.
And I invite cc to approach me in pm for a legitimately honest and private talk that never gets broadcast unless the cone of silence gets broken.
I really appreciate that DD.
ac_smile
Thank Bricktop too... he's been watching me operate and wondering how to manage it this time... and to his credit, he dropped the cunthound and bravado, in order to address both sides of the divide.
He cares about this forum heaps too...
As do cc and IHJ...
I think you are a terrific contributor. And I have never had a problem with your positions, including COVID. But, you sometimes let your temper get the best of you in disagreements. I've seen in the nine years I have been here that letting one's temper get the best of a poster is a major discussion killer. God, did we see it with Shen Li in the early days of this community. I am not comparing you to a younger SL, so did get angry.
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I don't care what others do with their bodies though I'm uneasy with abortions, especially later abortions. It's not just one body.
It's a conundrum for those of us who defend liberty. I am pro choice, but not late term. That is ghastly.
i think abortions should be regulated.... there are plenty of justifications for abortion. rape, incest, health issues, etc.... its when they're performed on a whim that i want to slam on the brakes.... this is medical personnel that swore an oath to 'do no harm'.... but because someone has money to pay for the service, suddenly they're fine with killing healthy babies or mangling a perfectly normal penis or vagina to accommodate the mentally ill owner.... or stretching, fabricating and even straight out lying about the number of covid deaths to promote more vaccinations.... they've even diagnosed ppl with 'climate change'.... i've watched the decline of an otherwise respected field as they lose all credibility by putting money above morality.... its never been more clear to me than now....
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That's my gripe - having to pay for losers who literally got themselves very ill :oeudC:
You will therefore support moves to disbar smokers, sportsmen, the elderly, the morbidly obese, drug dependants, incompetent drivers, single mothers, the clumsy, those with a genetic disposition to cancer, those with mental health issues and people who don't wear sunblock from that health system that you fund, I presume. These, by your definition as I understand it, are "losers" because of poor life choices.
These groups cost you FAR more than people with Covid symptoms in the grand scheme of things.
Exactly BT. :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
This is hypocritical as well as being dangerous rationalizing. I smoked for twenty seven years. I paid a lot of taxes through my former habit to support our health care system. If I had developed lung cancer would they refuse to treat me.
I am sorry cc and IHJ, but this is not a justification for discrimination against the unvaccinated.
What discrimination? No one is advocating doing anything against them.
PS - everyone has a right to gripe about unfairness brought on by irresponsibility .. which is the case here
Oh, and my gripe is not just cost of the irresponsible's care (which actually is already large and will be very large before we are done with this) ,, and not as Brick pontificates
but more so the otherwise unnecessary hospital fillings causing serious harm to others with serious and time-precious attention that it brings with it .... (something no one else has managed to voluntarily achieve in our history far as I can recall)
Anyone who cares to argue that is a good thing, the floor is their's
Vaccine passports are discriminatory. That is why governments have them-to discriminate.
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I don't care what others do with their bodies though I'm uneasy with abortions, especially later abortions. It's not just one body.
It's a conundrum for those of us who defend liberty. I am pro choice, but not late term. That is ghastly.
i think abortions should be regulated.... there are plenty of justifications for abortion. rape, incest, health issues, etc.... its when they're performed on a whim that i want to slam on the brakes.... this is medical personnel that swore an oath to 'do no harm'.... but because someone has money to pay for the service, suddenly they're fine with killing healthy babies or mangling a perfectly normal penis or vagina to accommodate the mentally ill owner.... or stretching, fabricating and even straight out lying about the number of covid deaths to promote more vaccinations.... they've even diagnosed ppl with 'climate change'.... i've watched the decline of an otherwise respected field as they lose all credibility by putting money above morality.... its never been more clear to me than now....
Abortion is an issue I rarely discuss. Now that the can of worms has been opened, I think I will close it.
abortion wasn't the crux of my post.... it was the corruption of the medical field in general.... but thats cool....
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That's my gripe - having to pay for losers who literally got themselves very ill :oeudC:
You will therefore support moves to disbar smokers, sportsmen, the elderly, the morbidly obese, drug dependants, incompetent drivers, single mothers, the clumsy, those with a genetic disposition to cancer, those with mental health issues and people who don't wear sunblock from that health system that you fund, I presume. These, by your definition as I understand it, are "losers" because of poor life choices.
These groups cost you FAR more than people with Covid symptoms in the grand scheme of things.
But, in keeping with the abrogation of human rights we might as well go the whole way.
Like it or not, "Universal Health" does not mean health care for all except people who are irresponsible as to their general well being.
The cost of treating Covid patients, at least here, is a mere speck on the whiteboard of health budgetary management.
I support vaccinations, and encourage everyone to be innoculated, FOR THEIR OWN SAKE.
I support the rights of people everywhere to choose what is injected into their own bodies, and the rights of parents to choose what is best for their child.
So far, other than emotive and sanctimonious lambasting, I have not seen any argument which renders my views invalid.
In a Drama Queen mode I see
I think it's time I pointed something out to you.
YOU are at the epicentre of the insults, aggravation and disharmony that we are experiencing.
I do not accuse you of instigation. I have no idea "who started it". But you are as culpable as anyone else because you simply cannot discuss this matter with any dignity, respect or acceptance that others have a different view than you.
I acknowledge that you have been the brunt of insults. But your response is to throw fuel on the fire. Then you complain that it's too hot in here.
You have alleged that some here are here to dismantle or destroy this forum. That is asinine and absurd. You have even implied that I am involved with this plot.
Your are not, in my view, demonstrating conduct other than that against which you rail. You are a hypocrite in that respect. You are not discussing or debating anything as far as I can see. You are crusading and ignoring the fact that other people have valid issues that are worthy of DISCUSSION.
I do not condone the abuse you've received. But I cannot help think that you are bringing this on yourself with your haughty and condescending attitude to the subject at hand. I made a comment which reflects my view that no argument has yet been forwarded to justify the unlawful measures that have been inflicted on all of us. YOUR NAME WAS NOT MENTIONED, NOR WAS MY COMMENT DIRECTED AT ANY PARTICULAR PERSON.
But you accuse me of being a drama queen???? Is that what you regard as an adult response.
I cannot be help but think that behind your hostility is an essence of sexism against males. Not for the first time have you made snide remarks at male posters, myself included.
Some of us have made it clear that things need to change around here. You have not heeded that message. I note that Freud has attempted to temper his demeanour in discussions...a rare thing, I can testify to.
But you don't get it. You have no idea that you are part of this problem. Here's a newsflash from the elder statesman of this forum; you ARE part of the problem. The last time I took a powder it was because of YOUR attitude, and I can say with confidence I am not the first to tire of it.
There we go, folks. The senior member has thrown a hand grenade into our heart. Let's see who has the maturity and commitment to this community to turn things around.
I have never had anything less than total respect for cc. But, in this case she is guilty of what she has accused others of. You are right BT, and I see it too.
CC, we had a peace understanding. All sides were on board. Don't be the one to break it.
BT's comments were not insults and you didn't have to step over meme spam. Please respond as the highly intelligent woman that you are.
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abortion wasn't the crux of my post.... it was the corruption of the medical field in general.... but thats cool....
Yes, I know. The subject was on the table before you got here. I should not have responded to DD's post about abortion. My bad.
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I don't care what others do with their bodies though I'm uneasy with abortions, especially later abortions. It's not just one body.
It's a conundrum for those of us who defend liberty. I am pro choice, but not late term. That is ghastly.
i think abortions should be regulated.... there are plenty of justifications for abortion. rape, incest, health issues, etc.... its when they're performed on a whim that i want to slam on the brakes.... this is medical personnel that swore an oath to 'do no harm'.... but because someone has money to pay for the service, suddenly they're fine with killing healthy babies or mangling a perfectly normal penis or vagina to accommodate the mentally ill owner.... or stretching, fabricating and even straight out lying about the number of covid deaths to promote more vaccinations.... they've even diagnosed ppl with 'climate change'.... i've watched the decline of an otherwise respected field as they lose all credibility by putting money above morality.... its never been more clear to me than now....
All these nutjobs are white. Probably American too.
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I don't care what others do with their bodies though I'm uneasy with abortions, especially later abortions. It's not just one body.
It's a conundrum for those of us who defend liberty. I am pro choice, but not late term. That is ghastly.
i think abortions should be regulated.... there are plenty of justifications for abortion. rape, incest, health issues, etc.... its when they're performed on a whim that i want to slam on the brakes.... this is medical personnel that swore an oath to 'do no harm'.... but because someone has money to pay for the service, suddenly they're fine with killing healthy babies or mangling a perfectly normal penis or vagina to accommodate the mentally ill owner.... or stretching, fabricating and even straight out lying about the number of covid deaths to promote more vaccinations.... they've even diagnosed ppl with 'climate change'.... i've watched the decline of an otherwise respected field as they lose all credibility by putting money above morality.... its never been more clear to me than now....
All these nutjobs are white. Probably American too.
look here, fangfang.... i get it. you hate americans. i dunno what swalwell did to you but i'm sorry.... i'm not him.... and i'm not a big fan of america either.... if you really wanna fight, you need to find a topic i care about....
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I don't care what others do with their bodies though I'm uneasy with abortions, especially later abortions. It's not just one body.
It's a conundrum for those of us who defend liberty. I am pro choice, but not late term. That is ghastly.
i think abortions should be regulated.... there are plenty of justifications for abortion. rape, incest, health issues, etc.... its when they're performed on a whim that i want to slam on the brakes.... this is medical personnel that swore an oath to 'do no harm'.... but because someone has money to pay for the service, suddenly they're fine with killing healthy babies or mangling a perfectly normal penis or vagina to accommodate the mentally ill owner.... or stretching, fabricating and even straight out lying about the number of covid deaths to promote more vaccinations.... they've even diagnosed ppl with 'climate change'.... i've watched the decline of an otherwise respected field as they lose all credibility by putting money above morality.... its never been more clear to me than now....
All these nutjobs are white. Probably American too.
look here, fangfang.... i get it. you hate americans. i dunno what swalwell did to you but i'm sorry.... i'm not him.... and i'm not a big fan of america either.... if you really wanna fight, you need to find a topic i care about....
I have about 335 million reasons to hate your shithole of a country. I don't need any particular topic. If Americans, especially white ones are giving opinions, it's not a topic worth my time.
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I don't need any particular topic. If Americans, especially white ones are giving opinions, it's not a topic worth my time.
well.... i'm so white, i scare ghosts.... i make bread look yellowish.... so move along if you don't wanna talk to me.... thats fine.... its not a problem....
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I don't need any particular topic. If Americans, especially white ones are giving opinions, it's not a topic worth my time.
well.... i'm so white, i scare ghosts.... i make bread look yellowish.... so move along if you don't wanna talk to me.... thats fine.... its not a problem....
Unfortunately, you Americans, white, black, Asian, and hispanic are exporting your ratardation. Your country used to export cars, steel, and machinery. Now you export CRT. Thank you so fucking much.
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I don't need any particular topic. If Americans, especially white ones are giving opinions, it's not a topic worth my time.
well.... i'm so white, i scare ghosts.... i make bread look yellowish.... so move along if you don't wanna talk to me.... thats fine.... its not a problem....
Unfortunately, you Americans, white, black, Asian, and hispanic are exporting your ratardation. Your country used to export cars, steel, and machinery. Now you export CRT. Thank you so fucking much.
Were you dissatisfied with an order from Amazon in Seattle?
What is this anti American kick about?
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I don't need any particular topic. If Americans, especially white ones are giving opinions, it's not a topic worth my time.
well.... i'm so white, i scare ghosts.... i make bread look yellowish.... so move along if you don't wanna talk to me.... thats fine.... its not a problem....
Unfortunately, you Americans, white, black, Asian, and hispanic are exporting your ratardation. Your country used to export cars, steel, and machinery. Now you export CRT. Thank you so fucking much.
i'm against the fake ass 2020 election.... i'm against CRT too.... me and ppl like me are labeled as 'domestic terrorists' in our own fuckin country.... the country we were raised to love and defend.... you think i'm not sick as hell about where we are as a nation? i was raised to kill communists.... not vote for em.... and if you wanna 'split hairs', take a wild guess at what country is responsible for most all of our current predicaments.... so thank YOU very much....
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I don't need any particular topic. If Americans, especially white ones are giving opinions, it's not a topic worth my time.
well.... i'm so white, i scare ghosts.... i make bread look yellowish.... so move along if you don't wanna talk to me.... thats fine.... its not a problem....
Unfortunately, you Americans, white, black, Asian, and hispanic are exporting your ratardation. Your country used to export cars, steel, and machinery. Now you export CRT. Thank you so fucking much.
i'm against the fake ass 2020 election.... i'm against CRT too.... me and ppl like me are labeled as 'domestic terrorists' in our own fuckin country.... the country we were raised to love and defend.... you think i'm not sick as hell about where we are as a nation? i was raised to kill communists.... not vote for em.... and if you wanna 'split hairs', take a wild guess at what country is responsible for most all of our current predicaments.... so thank YOU very much....
Oh my, Shen won't like that.
:laugh:
you couldn't make a decent list of things she DOES like.... so don't color me 'surprised'.... :laugh:
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I don't need any particular topic. If Americans, especially white ones are giving opinions, it's not a topic worth my time.
well.... i'm so white, i scare ghosts.... i make bread look yellowish.... so move along if you don't wanna talk to me.... thats fine.... its not a problem....
Unfortunately, you Americans, white, black, Asian, and hispanic are exporting your ratardation. Your country used to export cars, steel, and machinery. Now you export CRT. Thank you so fucking much.
i'm against the fake ass 2020 election.... i'm against CRT too.... me and ppl like me are labeled as 'domestic terrorists' in our own fuckin country.... the country we were raised to love and defend.... you think i'm not sick as hell about where we are as a nation? i was raised to kill communists.... not vote for em.... and if you wanna 'split hairs', take a wild guess at what country is responsible for most all of our current predicaments.... so thank YOU very much....
Oh my, Shen won't like that.
:laugh:
Sure, side with the white American guy you treasonous Taiwanese twat. :mad:
And just so you know mr white Alabama guy, it was your fucking country, not China that created COVID. Last time I checked. Dr Death(Fauci) was yours, not ours. Now go get a room with your new Taiwanese white wannabe gf.
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well.... i'm so white, i scare ghosts.... i make bread look yellowish.... so move along if you don't wanna talk to me.... thats fine.... its not a problem....
Unfortunately, you Americans, white, black, Asian, and hispanic are exporting your ratardation. Your country used to export cars, steel, and machinery. Now you export CRT. Thank you so fucking much.
i'm against the fake ass 2020 election.... i'm against CRT too.... me and ppl like me are labeled as 'domestic terrorists' in our own fuckin country.... the country we were raised to love and defend.... you think i'm not sick as hell about where we are as a nation? i was raised to kill communists.... not vote for em.... and if you wanna 'split hairs', take a wild guess at what country is responsible for most all of our current predicaments.... so thank YOU very much....
Oh my, Shen won't like that.
:laugh:
Sure, side with the white American guy you treasonous Taiwanese twat. :mad:
Cover up Shen......your nationalism is showing,
:laugh:
lab leak or wet market.... its your yard.... fauci is indeed a criminal.... but you were the source of remorse....
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lab leak or wet market.... its your yard.... fauci is indeed a criminal.... but you were the source of remorse....
The real market was in DC, you rube. Your country created this pandemic, not mine.
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lab leak or wet market.... its your yard.... fauci is indeed a criminal.... but you were the source of remorse....
The real market was in DC, you rube. Your country created this pandemic, not mine.
seems to me that BOTH countries have a hand in this.... i'm all for full transparency and execution of any and all parties responsible.... but i refuse to bare the burden of personal responsibility for anything contributing to the virus.... i'm no more guilty than you are.... we should actually be on the same fuckin team.... but if you still wanna delegate responsibility based on race, you're no better than the CRT peddlers that you just berated....
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lab leak or wet market.... its your yard.... fauci is indeed a criminal.... but you were the source of remorse....
The real market was in DC, you rube. Your country created this pandemic, not mine.
seems to me that BOTH countries have a hand in this.... i'm all for full transparency and execution of any and all parties responsible.... but i refuse to bare the burden of personal responsibility for anything contributing to the virus.... i'm no more guilty than you are.... we should actually be on the same fuckin team.... but if you still wanna delegate responsibility based on race, you're no better than the CRT peddlers that you just berated....
Nope. The US paid for this pandemic and you owe the world trillions in reparations.
wrong.... fauci funded your lab and fauci and company are equally responsible.... fauci isn't even an 'elected official'.... again, i'm all in favor of guilty parties being held accountable.... but i'm not on board with your assessment of guilt....
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wrong.... fauci funded your lab and fauci and company are equally responsible.... fauci isn't even an 'elected official'.... again, i'm all in favor of guilty parties being held accountable.... but i'm not on board with your assessment of guilt....
I wish he was elected instead of being a deep state above the law civil servant. Fuck, your country is a criminal organization.
china is so legit....
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china is so legit....
Compared to your corrupt shithole of a country, Zimbabwe is.
:pop:
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china is so legit....
Compared to your corrupt shithole of a country, Zimbabwe is.
i don't think you're in a position to talk.... my country is shit.... thats true.... but i'm aware of it.... you seem to be in denial all the way across the board.... how about you sweep your porch before you complain about my dirty sidewalk....
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china is so legit....
Compared to your corrupt shithole of a country, Zimbabwe is.
i don't think you're in a position to talk.... my country is shit.... thats true.... but i'm aware of it.... you seem to be in denial all the way across the board.... how about you sweep your porch before you complain about my dirty sidewalk....
You really are ignorant of Chinese. We know our country is corrupt to the core. But, if Dr Death(Fauci) was still on the Chinese payroll we would overthrow the government unless that pos was canned and jailed.
there isn't multiple 'governments'.... there is only ONE government and multiple illusions.... russia and china are the 'invisible boogie-men' that my country uses to scare ppl into compliance with insane new protocols.... america and such are what china uses.... the world is a giant business and each country is just a branch office.... theres no competition in reality.... the only goal is to oppress us.... they will continue to tiptoe past our civil rights until they're gone.... this is the hill i die on but i'm not gonna go on the offensive.... they'll come to me soon enough....
Jeez Shen, keep that up and you will soon be as much the "bad seed" here as I
Know that I will fight like a tiger, even dirty, to maintain my current position as the top "bad seed" pariah here :wink:
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I note that Freud has attempted to temper his demeanour in discussions.
I only do that for Kiebers and Fash.
My gut instinct, as you know, is to fan such stuff to forum imploding bitch-fight fruition...but a few people here don't understand it's for sport rather than malice. And more than a few don't comprehend that a legitimate issue can be enmeshed with no small or large degree of peacocking and hubris in order to get under then turned up skin.
I have no skin in the game towards making Kieber's or Fash's job any harder, so I fall on my sword...
...but that sword is conveniently situated exactly between my torso and closet outermost arm.
If I pull it out again, it's to slay somebody in one fell swoop or in notches. I prefer notches. I really like notches. The swoop only gives one a momentarily fleeting euphoria. The notches feeds an ego for years or decades.
Bricktop knows a bit about me... we go back maybe 17-18 years. Listen to Bricktop on this. I'm not some King Martini internet warrior (though he does have his great merits).... I've been more like a slow burn. Such burns started out a long time ago and capped at weeks....then months, then decades.
And I invite cc to approach me in pm for a legitimately honest and private talk that never gets broadcast unless the cone of silence gets broken.
I really appreciate that DD.
ac_smile
Thank Bricktop too... he's been watching me operate and wondering how to manage it this time... and to his credit, he dropped the cunthound and bravado, in order to address both sides of the divide.
He cares about this forum heaps too...
As do cc and IHJ...
I think you are a terrific contributor. And I have never had a problem with your positions, including COVID. But, you sometimes let your temper get the best of you in disagreements. I've seen in the nine years I have been here that letting one's temper get the best of a poster is a major discussion killer. God, did we see it with Shen Li in the early days of this community. I am not comparing you to a younger SL, so did get angry.
Thanks but temper? What temper?
Of late, Pomposity rules and is spreading like the XI virus. That combined with the current unholy alliance / group ass- kissing I find to be is vomit-inducing
Seems Fash and only a few others others are the only ones (of late) who post decently and intelligently and without even a touch of pomposity
I had prepared a direct fact-based rebuttal to Brick and seoul's attacks / pomposity & "pack mentality in action" / gross distortion of facts aimed directly at me and to a lesser extent to IHJ
On further thought, I realized it was not worth the group insults it would further incur no matter how accurate my facts were
From here on, y'all can have your know-it-all group circle jerk in peace ... without me interfering or distracting y'all
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Rather than defend myself, from here on I choose to stick to facts .... to not respond to fact-void personal ego based group attacks ... and instead to be highly selective of which discussions I enter ... and back out fast when they turn stupid, pack-like and / or personal
Reply if you wish, but be aware that I will not be returning to this thread that turned so ugly .. nor joining any like it
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china is so legit....
Compared to your corrupt shithole of a country, Zimbabwe is.
i don't think you're in a position to talk.... my country is shit.... thats true.... but i'm aware of it.... you seem to be in denial all the way across the board.... how about you sweep your porch before you complain about my dirty sidewalk....
There is a deep state in the US that nobody can touch. That includes the president. This is what makes the US a little different in terms of corruption. You have a government within a government. And it's the unelected one that endures and is never held to account.
Brother, don't get me wrong. there is a lot I like about the US. I lived in Western Pennsylvania a long time ago. I was there during local and state elections. Unlike Canada, politicians listen to what voters want rather than tell them what the elected elite wants. But, this pandemic has shown the elected are not the real power.
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Of late, Pomposity rules and is spreading like the XI virus. That combined with the current unholy alliance / group ass- kissing I find to be is vomit-inducing
Seems Fash and only a few others others are the only ones (of late) who post decently and intelligently and without even a touch of pomposity
I had prepared a direct fact-based rebuttal to Brick and seoul's attacks / pomposity & "pack mentality in action" / gross distortion of facts aimed directly at me and to a lesser extent to IHJ
On further thought, I realized it was not worth the group insults it would further incur no matter how accurate my facts were
From here on, y'all can have your know-it-all group circle jerk in peace ... without me interfering or distracting y'all
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Rather than defend myself, from here on I choose to stick to facts .... to not respond to fact-void personal ego based group attacks ... and instead to be highly selective of which discussions I enter ... and back out fast when they turn stupid, pack-like and / or personal
Reply if you wish, but be aware that I will not be returning to this thread that turned so ugly .. nor joining any like it
I like all the folks here. And ceec, you are one of the best. You can shine old Herman's shitter anyday.
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You can shine old Herman's shitter anyday.
:roll:
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Of late, Pomposity rules and is spreading like the XI virus. That combined with the current unholy alliance / group ass- kissing I find to be is vomit-inducing
Seems Fash and only a few others others are the only ones (of late) who post decently and intelligently and without even a touch of pomposity
I had prepared a direct fact-based rebuttal to Brick and seoul's attacks / pomposity & "pack mentality in action" / gross distortion of facts aimed directly at me and to a lesser extent to IHJ
On further thought, I realized it was not worth the group insults it would further incur no matter how accurate my facts were
From here on, y'all can have your know-it-all group circle jerk in peace ... without me interfering or distracting y'all
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Rather than defend myself, from here on I choose to stick to facts .... to not respond to fact-void personal ego based group attacks ... and instead to be highly selective of which discussions I enter ... and back out fast when they turn stupid, pack-like and / or personal
Reply if you wish, but be aware that I will not be returning to this thread that turned so ugly .. nor joining any like it

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Quote from: cc post_id=433775 time=1641605955 user_id=88
Of late, Pomposity rules and is spreading like the XI virus. That combined with the current unholy alliance / group ass- kissing I find to be is vomit-inducing
Seems Fash and only a few others others are the only ones (of late) who post decently and intelligently and without even a touch of pomposity
I had prepared a direct fact-based rebuttal to Brick and seoul's attacks / pomposity & "pack mentality in action" / gross distortion of facts aimed directly at me and to a lesser extent to IHJ
On further thought, I realized it was not worth the group insults it would further incur no matter how accurate my facts were
From here on, y'all can have your know-it-all group circle jerk in peace ... without me interfering or distracting y'all
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Rather than defend myself, from here on I choose to stick to facts .... to not respond to fact-void personal ego based group attacks ... and instead to be highly selective of which discussions I enter ... and back out fast when they turn stupid, pack-like and / or personal
Reply if you wish, but be aware that I will not be returning to this thread that turned so ugly .. nor joining any like it
This is pure idiocy.
People who share a different view to others are not automatically an "alliance". The term implies a common purpose and organised actions. That is NOT the case here as far as I am aware.
What you are doing in that drivel is saying "I am innocent, it's the people who disagree with me that's the problem". This is EXACTLY the attitude of the lefty snowflakes we so often deride.
Whilst I have acknowledged that you have been "attacked", there is NO way you can claim I have attacked anyone. Disagreeing with you is NOT an attack unless you are one of the left snowflakes as mentioned above.
Or is this a sign of new femininity? If someone disputes you, play the victim card? Your conduct seems synonymous with modern female histrionics. "You're out to destroy this forum" is an accusation you've played that has no basis in fact and seems to be hysteria over reason to deflect your inability to converse like an adult. Or male.
And drawing Fashionista into this debacle is a pathetic attempt to deflect your own failings and errors.
She has nothing to do with either of those.
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=433716 time=1641556130 user_id=114
I think you are a terrific contributor. And I have never had a problem with your positions, including COVID. But, you sometimes let your temper get the best of you in disagreements. I've seen in the nine years I have been here that letting one's temper get the best of a poster is a major discussion killer. God, did we see it with Shen Li in the early days of this community. I am not comparing you to a younger SL, so did get angry.
What the fuck are you on about. I have always been sweeter than fucking sugar. Oh you probably mean when I used to wish death on Homo-ero and Blurt. I meant it in a loving way.
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=433813 time=1641610483 user_id=56
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=433716 time=1641556130 user_id=114
I think you are a terrific contributor. And I have never had a problem with your positions, including COVID. But, you sometimes let your temper get the best of you in disagreements. I've seen in the nine years I have been here that letting one's temper get the best of a poster is a major discussion killer. God, did we see it with Shen Li in the early days of this community. I am not comparing you to a younger SL, so did get angry.
What the fuck are you on about. I have always been sweeter than fucking sugar. Oh you probably mean when I used to wish death on Homo-ero and Blurt. I meant it in a loving way.
All Rohomo did was spam the board with prog propaganda. He didn't reply to anything, just spam. He sucked-good riddance.

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I know what you're insuating Odi.
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Quote from: Herman post_id=433825 time=1641612586 user_id=1689
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=433813 time=1641610483 user_id=56
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=433716 time=1641556130 user_id=114
I think you are a terrific contributor. And I have never had a problem with your positions, including COVID. But, you sometimes let your temper get the best of you in disagreements. I've seen in the nine years I have been here that letting one's temper get the best of a poster is a major discussion killer. God, did we see it with Shen Li in the early days of this community. I am not comparing you to a younger SL, so did get angry.
What the fuck are you on about. I have always been sweeter than fucking sugar. Oh you probably mean when I used to wish death on Homo-ero and Blurt. I meant it in a loving way.
All Rohomo did was spam the board with prog propaganda. He didn't reply to anything, just spam. He sucked-good riddance.
He used to be a mod here....and he did a good job..
But, he decided he didn't want to post anywhere anymore and that's when the spam started.
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=433813 time=1641610483 user_id=56
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=433716 time=1641556130 user_id=114
I think you are a terrific contributor. And I have never had a problem with your positions, including COVID. But, you sometimes let your temper get the best of you in disagreements. I've seen in the nine years I have been here that letting one's temper get the best of a poster is a major discussion killer. God, did we see it with Shen Li in the early days of this community. I am not comparing you to a younger SL, so did get angry.
What the fuck are you on about. I have always been sweeter than fucking sugar. Oh you probably mean when I used to wish death on Homo-ero and Blurt. I meant it in a loving way.
That just might be what he meant..
Having a family forces one to mature doesn't it.