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Title: Supreme Court case could end affirmative action policies once and for all
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2022, 12:26:48 PM
The Supreme Court on Monday said it will hear a challenge to affirmative action policies in a case that will consider wither the admissions process at certain universities discriminates against students of Asian descent.



The court agreed to hear two companion lawsuits brought by Students for Fair Admissions, a nonprofit group that believes policies that use race as a factor in college admissions unconstitutionally discriminate against certain students in favor of others.



The group claims that Harvard's undergraduate admissions process discriminates against Asian-Americans and that UNC's discriminates against both Asian-Americans and white students. The lawsuits were brought against both a private and a public university to challenge the affirmative action policies at both kinds of institution. Lower courts have rejected these challenges, ruling that Supreme Court precedent upholds the right of colleges and universities to consider race in admissions decisions as a way to promote diversity.



The court has said racial quotas for admissions are illegal. But in a 2003 ruling supporting the University of Michigan's affirmative action policies, the court ruled schools may use race as a "plus factor" among an applicant's other qualities to ensure that the student body is diverse. Most recently, the court in 2016 voted 4-3 against a white woman who had sued the University of Texas' admissions policy. Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote the majority opinion in that case, citing court precedent to uphold the university's admissions policy.



Students for Fair Admissions is asking the court to overturn the 2003 ruling, arguing that Title VI of U.S. code prohibits federal funding recipients from using race in admissions.



The court is widely expected to hear the case sometime next fall, with a decision potentially coming after the 2022 midterm elections.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/supreme-court-case-could-end-affirmative-action-policies-once-and-for-all?utm_source=theblaze-7DayTrendingTest&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=The%20Blaze%20PM%20Trending%202022-01-24&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%207%20Day%20Engagement



There isn't much that unites the Asian-American community. But, affirmative action admissions at universities puts late forties conservatives like myself on the same side as eighteen year old Sanders supporters.



Penalizing Asian=Americans for academic success is un-American. Discriminating against Asian-Americans is unconstitutional. I am hopeful the nation's top court will agree.
Title: Re: Supreme Court case could end affirmative action policies once and for all
Post by: Frood on January 25, 2022, 12:35:38 PM
It doesn't matter anymore... the US Supreme Court is corrupted.
Title: Re: Supreme Court case could end affirmative action policies once and for all
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2022, 12:38:11 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=436147 time=1643132138 user_id=1676
It doesn't matter anymore... the US Supreme Court is corrupted.

This is not the same Supreme Court that last ruled on affirmative action nineteen years ago. I am cautiously optimistic they will make the right decision.
Title: Re: Supreme Court case could end affirmative action policies once and for all
Post by: Frood on January 25, 2022, 12:41:03 PM
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=436149 time=1643132291 user_id=114
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=436147 time=1643132138 user_id=1676
It doesn't matter anymore... the US Supreme Court is corrupted.

This is not the same Supreme Court that last ruled on affirmative action nineteen years ago. I am cautiously optimistic they will make the right decision.




I've watched the cowardice of new members... they're shit scared about rendering a constitutional ruling.
Title: Re: Supreme Court case could end affirmative action policies once and for all
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2022, 01:07:18 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=436150 time=1643132463 user_id=1676
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=436149 time=1643132291 user_id=114
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=436147 time=1643132138 user_id=1676
It doesn't matter anymore... the US Supreme Court is corrupted.

This is not the same Supreme Court that last ruled on affirmative action nineteen years ago. I am cautiously optimistic they will make the right decision.




I've watched the cowardice of new members... they're shit scared about rendering a constitutional ruling.

Legalized racial discrimination has never had a better chance of being stopped dead in it's tracks. They are going to hear it, and that is good.
Title: Re: Supreme Court case could end affirmative action policies once and for all
Post by: Frood on January 25, 2022, 01:47:11 PM
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=436156 time=1643134038 user_id=114
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=436150 time=1643132463 user_id=1676
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=436149 time=1643132291 user_id=114
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=436147 time=1643132138 user_id=1676
It doesn't matter anymore... the US Supreme Court is corrupted.

This is not the same Supreme Court that last ruled on affirmative action nineteen years ago. I am cautiously optimistic they will make the right decision.




I've watched the cowardice of new members... they're shit scared about rendering a constitutional ruling.

Legalized racial discrimination has never had a better chance of being stopped dead in it's tracks. They are going to hear it, and that is good.


I wish I had your opportunism...





Unfortunately, I hail from that hot mess.









It's  a shit-show...
Title: Re: Supreme Court case could end affirmative action policies once and for all
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2022, 02:29:13 PM
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=436146 time=1643131608 user_id=114
The Supreme Court on Monday said it will hear a challenge to affirmative action policies in a case that will consider wither the admissions process at certain universities discriminates against students of Asian descent.



The court agreed to hear two companion lawsuits brought by Students for Fair Admissions, a nonprofit group that believes policies that use race as a factor in college admissions unconstitutionally discriminate against certain students in favor of others.



The group claims that Harvard's undergraduate admissions process discriminates against Asian-Americans and that UNC's discriminates against both Asian-Americans and white students. The lawsuits were brought against both a private and a public university to challenge the affirmative action policies at both kinds of institution. Lower courts have rejected these challenges, ruling that Supreme Court precedent upholds the right of colleges and universities to consider race in admissions decisions as a way to promote diversity.



The court has said racial quotas for admissions are illegal. But in a 2003 ruling supporting the University of Michigan's affirmative action policies, the court ruled schools may use race as a "plus factor" among an applicant's other qualities to ensure that the student body is diverse. Most recently, the court in 2016 voted 4-3 against a white woman who had sued the University of Texas' admissions policy. Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote the majority opinion in that case, citing court precedent to uphold the university's admissions policy.



Students for Fair Admissions is asking the court to overturn the 2003 ruling, arguing that Title VI of U.S. code prohibits federal funding recipients from using race in admissions.



The court is widely expected to hear the case sometime next fall, with a decision potentially coming after the 2022 midterm elections.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/supreme-court-case-could-end-affirmative-action-policies-once-and-for-all?utm_source=theblaze-7DayTrendingTest&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=The%20Blaze%20PM%20Trending%202022-01-24&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%207%20Day%20Engagement



There isn't much that unites the Asian-American community. But, affirmative action admissions at universities puts late forties conservatives like myself on the same side as eighteen year old Sanders supporters.



Penalizing Asian=Americans for academic success is un-American. Discriminating against Asian-Americans is unconstitutional. I am hopeful the nation's top court will agree.

Canadian universities don't ahave this blatant discrimination against East Asians..



I know I would be speaking with my MP if my daughter was denied admission to the U of C because she's half Asian.
Title: Re: Supreme Court case could end affirmative action policies once and for all
Post by: Frood on January 25, 2022, 02:43:30 PM
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=436172 time=1643138953 user_id=3254
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=436146 time=1643131608 user_id=114
The Supreme Court on Monday said it will hear a challenge to affirmative action policies in a case that will consider wither the admissions process at certain universities discriminates against students of Asian descent.



The court agreed to hear two companion lawsuits brought by Students for Fair Admissions, a nonprofit group that believes policies that use race as a factor in college admissions unconstitutionally discriminate against certain students in favor of others.



The group claims that Harvard's undergraduate admissions process discriminates against Asian-Americans and that UNC's discriminates against both Asian-Americans and white students. The lawsuits were brought against both a private and a public university to challenge the affirmative action policies at both kinds of institution. Lower courts have rejected these challenges, ruling that Supreme Court precedent upholds the right of colleges and universities to consider race in admissions decisions as a way to promote diversity.



The court has said racial quotas for admissions are illegal. But in a 2003 ruling supporting the University of Michigan's affirmative action policies, the court ruled schools may use race as a "plus factor" among an applicant's other qualities to ensure that the student body is diverse. Most recently, the court in 2016 voted 4-3 against a white woman who had sued the University of Texas' admissions policy. Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote the majority opinion in that case, citing court precedent to uphold the university's admissions policy.



Students for Fair Admissions is asking the court to overturn the 2003 ruling, arguing that Title VI of U.S. code prohibits federal funding recipients from using race in admissions.



The court is widely expected to hear the case sometime next fall, with a decision potentially coming after the 2022 midterm elections.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/supreme-court-case-could-end-affirmative-action-policies-once-and-for-all?utm_source=theblaze-7DayTrendingTest&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=The%20Blaze%20PM%20Trending%202022-01-24&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%207%20Day%20Engagement



There isn't much that unites the Asian-American community. But, affirmative action admissions at universities puts late forties conservatives like myself on the same side as eighteen year old Sanders supporters.



Penalizing Asian=Americans for academic success is un-American. Discriminating against Asian-Americans is unconstitutional. I am hopeful the nation's top court will agree.

Canadian universities don't ahave this blatant discrimination against East Asians..



I know I would be speaking with my MP if my daughter was denied admission to the U of C because she's half Asian.


But you couldn't sling that if you said half white...
Title: Re: Supreme Court case could end affirmative action policies once and for all
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2022, 03:02:52 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=436176 time=1643139810 user_id=1676
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=436172 time=1643138953 user_id=3254
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=436146 time=1643131608 user_id=114
The Supreme Court on Monday said it will hear a challenge to affirmative action policies in a case that will consider wither the admissions process at certain universities discriminates against students of Asian descent.



The court agreed to hear two companion lawsuits brought by Students for Fair Admissions, a nonprofit group that believes policies that use race as a factor in college admissions unconstitutionally discriminate against certain students in favor of others.



The group claims that Harvard's undergraduate admissions process discriminates against Asian-Americans and that UNC's discriminates against both Asian-Americans and white students. The lawsuits were brought against both a private and a public university to challenge the affirmative action policies at both kinds of institution. Lower courts have rejected these challenges, ruling that Supreme Court precedent upholds the right of colleges and universities to consider race in admissions decisions as a way to promote diversity.



The court has said racial quotas for admissions are illegal. But in a 2003 ruling supporting the University of Michigan's affirmative action policies, the court ruled schools may use race as a "plus factor" among an applicant's other qualities to ensure that the student body is diverse. Most recently, the court in 2016 voted 4-3 against a white woman who had sued the University of Texas' admissions policy. Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote the majority opinion in that case, citing court precedent to uphold the university's admissions policy.



Students for Fair Admissions is asking the court to overturn the 2003 ruling, arguing that Title VI of U.S. code prohibits federal funding recipients from using race in admissions.



The court is widely expected to hear the case sometime next fall, with a decision potentially coming after the 2022 midterm elections.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/supreme-court-case-could-end-affirmative-action-policies-once-and-for-all?utm_source=theblaze-7DayTrendingTest&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=The%20Blaze%20PM%20Trending%202022-01-24&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%207%20Day%20Engagement



There isn't much that unites the Asian-American community. But, affirmative action admissions at universities puts late forties conservatives like myself on the same side as eighteen year old Sanders supporters.



Penalizing Asian=Americans for academic success is un-American. Discriminating against Asian-Americans is unconstitutional. I am hopeful the nation's top court will agree.

Canadian universities don't ahave this blatant discrimination against East Asians..



I know I would be speaking with my MP if my daughter was denied admission to the U of C because she's half Asian.


But you couldn't sling that if you said half white...

They don't discriminate based on race, so it's irrelevant.
Title: Re: Supreme Court case could end affirmative action policies once and for all
Post by: Frood on January 25, 2022, 03:38:01 PM
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=436179 time=1643140972 user_id=3254
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=436176 time=1643139810 user_id=1676
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=436172 time=1643138953 user_id=3254
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=436146 time=1643131608 user_id=114
The Supreme Court on Monday said it will hear a challenge to affirmative action policies in a case that will consider wither the admissions process at certain universities discriminates against students of Asian descent.



The court agreed to hear two companion lawsuits brought by Students for Fair Admissions, a nonprofit group that believes policies that use race as a factor in college admissions unconstitutionally discriminate against certain students in favor of others.



The group claims that Harvard's undergraduate admissions process discriminates against Asian-Americans and that UNC's discriminates against both Asian-Americans and white students. The lawsuits were brought against both a private and a public university to challenge the affirmative action policies at both kinds of institution. Lower courts have rejected these challenges, ruling that Supreme Court precedent upholds the right of colleges and universities to consider race in admissions decisions as a way to promote diversity.



The court has said racial quotas for admissions are illegal. But in a 2003 ruling supporting the University of Michigan's affirmative action policies, the court ruled schools may use race as a "plus factor" among an applicant's other qualities to ensure that the student body is diverse. Most recently, the court in 2016 voted 4-3 against a white woman who had sued the University of Texas' admissions policy. Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote the majority opinion in that case, citing court precedent to uphold the university's admissions policy.



Students for Fair Admissions is asking the court to overturn the 2003 ruling, arguing that Title VI of U.S. code prohibits federal funding recipients from using race in admissions.



The court is widely expected to hear the case sometime next fall, with a decision potentially coming after the 2022 midterm elections.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/supreme-court-case-could-end-affirmative-action-policies-once-and-for-all?utm_source=theblaze-7DayTrendingTest&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=The%20Blaze%20PM%20Trending%202022-01-24&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%207%20Day%20Engagement



There isn't much that unites the Asian-American community. But, affirmative action admissions at universities puts late forties conservatives like myself on the same side as eighteen year old Sanders supporters.



Penalizing Asian=Americans for academic success is un-American. Discriminating against Asian-Americans is unconstitutional. I am hopeful the nation's top court will agree.

Canadian universities don't ahave this blatant discrimination against East Asians..



I know I would be speaking with my MP if my daughter was denied admission to the U of C because she's half Asian.


But you couldn't sling that if you said half white...

They don't discriminate based on race, so it's irrelevant.


You wouldn't.. I wouldn't.   But heaps wouldn't leave race well enough alone....



Just saying...
Title: Re: Supreme Court case could end affirmative action policies once and for all
Post by: Bricktop on January 25, 2022, 04:43:43 PM
Once again, we need to bear in the forefront of our minds that this is an American issue.



Nothing to do with us.
Title: Re: Supreme Court case could end affirmative action policies once and for all
Post by: cc on January 25, 2022, 04:45:46 PM
Many Canadians follow US affairs closely. It's their prerogative to do so
Title: Re: Supreme Court case could end affirmative action policies once and for all
Post by: Bricktop on January 25, 2022, 04:50:05 PM
Of course it is. But "many" Canadians need to be able to differentiate between the internal affairs of another foreign nation and their own.



Reading some of the submissions here from "many" Canadians, I sometimes doubt that they see a distinction.
Title: Re: Supreme Court case could end affirmative action policies once and for all
Post by: cc on January 25, 2022, 04:53:27 PM
I could reply to that, but as seoul is the most prolific "here" on it, I'll invite him reply to that
Title: Re: Supreme Court case could end affirmative action policies once and for all
Post by: Bricktop on January 25, 2022, 04:57:20 PM
No need. I don't seek contention. I just like to remind people from countries other than America that the insanity in that nation does not have to be relevant to theirs.



Many people like to monitor events in the US, as it is fascinating watching a country die in slow motion, by its own hand. I get that.



Too often in our respective histories we have emulated America...its culture, mannerisms and socio-political conduct. We need to distance ourselves from what is currently a toxic nation.
Title: Re: Supreme Court case could end affirmative action policies once and for all
Post by: Frood on January 25, 2022, 05:24:50 PM
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=436190 time=1643147840 user_id=1560
No need. I don't seek contention. I just like to remind people from countries other than America that the insanity in that nation does not have to be relevant to theirs.



Many people like to monitor events in the US, as it is fascinating watching a country die in slow motion, by its own hand. I get that.



Too often in our respective histories we have emulated America...its culture, mannerisms and socio-political conduct. We need to distance ourselves from what is currently a toxic nation.




Like the California Rangers hired by the miners in Victoria did?





They weren't the actual California Rangers ... and they rode around the Eureka Stockade and decided to not join them....because they were largely unarmed and stupid.
Title: Re: Supreme Court case could end affirmative action policies once and for all
Post by: Frood on January 25, 2022, 05:25:02 PM
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=436190 time=1643147840 user_id=1560
No need. I don't seek contention. I just like to remind people from countries other than America that the insanity in that nation does not have to be relevant to theirs.



Many people like to monitor events in the US, as it is fascinating watching a country die in slow motion, by its own hand. I get that.



Too often in our respective histories we have emulated America...its culture, mannerisms and socio-political conduct. We need to distance ourselves from what is currently a toxic nation.




Like the California Rangers hired by the miners in Victoria did?





They weren't the actual California Rangers ... and they rode around the Eureka Stockade and decided to not join them....because they were largely unarmed and stupid.
Title: Re: Supreme Court case could end affirmative action policies once and for all
Post by: Bricktop on January 25, 2022, 06:14:54 PM
You mean, like people who double post??
Title: Re: Supreme Court case could end affirmative action policies once and for all
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2022, 06:27:06 PM
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=436185 time=1643147023 user_id=1560
Once again, we need to bear in the forefront of our minds that this is an American issue.



Nothing to do with us.

True. But, I hope SCOTUS ends it even though it does not affect anyone related to me.