Ukraine is the most openly racist country in Europe. The people fighting off Russians don't want the large scale immigration that Russia has had under Putin. They also are responsible for many war crimes.
Profile: Who are Ukraine's far-right Azov regiment?
The far-right neo-Nazi group has expanded to become part of Ukraine's armed forces, a street militia and a political party.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/1/who-are-the-azov-regiment
Azov is a far-right all-volunteer infantry military unit whose members – estimated at 900 – are ultra-nationalists and accused of harbouring neo-Nazi and white supremacist ideology.
The unit was initially formed as a volunteer group in May 2014 out of the ultra-nationalist Patriot of Ukraine gang, and the neo-Nazi Social National Assembly (SNA) group. Both groups engaged in xenophobic and neo-Nazi ideals and physically assaulted migrants, the Roma community and people opposing their views.
As a battalion, the group fought on the front lines against pro-Russian separatists in Donetsk, the eastern region of Ukraine. Just before launching the invasion, Putin recognised the independence of two rebel-held regions from Donbas.
A few months after recapturing the strategic port city of Mariupol from the Russian-backed separatists, the unit was officially integrated into the National Guard of Ukraine on November 12, 2014, and exacted high praise from then-President Petro Poroshenko.
"These are our best warriors," he said at an awards ceremony in 2014. "Our best volunteers."
Who founded Azov?
The unit was led by Andriy Biletsky, who served as the the leader of both the Patriot of Ukraine (founded in 2005) and the SNA (founded in 2008). The SNA is known to have carried out attacks on minority groups in Ukraine.
In 2010, Biletsky said Ukraine's national purpose was to "lead the white races of the world in a final crusade ... against Semite-led Untermenschen [inferior races]".
Biletsky was elected to parliament in 2014. He left Azov as elected officials cannot be in the military or police force. He remained an MP until 2019.
The 42-year-old is nicknamed Bely Vozd – or White Ruler – by his supporters. He established the far-right National Corps party in October 2016, whose core base is veterans of Azov.
Before becoming part of Ukraine's armed forces, who funded Azov?
The unit received backing from Ukraine's interior minister in 2014, as the government had recognised its own military was too weak to fight off the pro-Russian separatists and relied on paramilitary volunteer forces.
These forces were privately funded by oligarchs – the most known being Igor Kolomoisky, an energy magnate billionaire and then-governor of the Dnipropetrovska region.
In addition to Azov, Kolomoisky funded other volunteer battalions such as the Dnipro 1 and Dnipro 2, Aidar and Donbas units.
Azov received early funding and assistance from another oligarch: Serhiy Taruta, the billionaire governor of Donetsk region.
Neo-Nazi ideology
In 2015, Andriy Diachenko, the spokesperson for the regiment at the time said that 10 to 20 percent of Azov's recruits were Nazis.
In January 2018, Azov rolled out its street patrol unit called National Druzhyna to "restore" order in the capital, Kyiv. Instead, the unit carried out pogroms against the Roma community and attacked members of the LGBTQ community.
"Ukraine is the world's only nation to have a neo-Nazi formation in its armed forces," a correspondent for the US-based magazine, the Nation, wrote in 2019.
Human rights violations and war crimes
A 2016 report by the United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OCHA) has accused the Azov regiment of violating international humanitarian law.
The report detailed incidents over a period from November 2015-February 2016 where Azov had embedded their weapons and forces in used civilian buildings, and displaced residents after looting civilian properties. The report also accused the battalion of raping and torturing detainees in the Donbas region.
https://twitter.com/ng_ukraine/status/1497924614865002497?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1497924614865002497%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aljazeera.com%2Fnews%2F2022%2F2%2F28%2Fukrainian-fighters-grease-bullets-against-chechens-with-pig-fat
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Quote from: Herman post_id=442404 time=1646434608 user_id=1689
Ukraine is the most openly racist country in Europe. The people fighting off Russians don't want the large scale immigration that Russia has had under Putin. They also are responsible for many war crimes.
Profile: Who are Ukraine's far-right Azov regiment?
The far-right neo-Nazi group has expanded to become part of Ukraine's armed forces, a street militia and a political party.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/1/who-are-the-azov-regiment
Azov is a far-right all-volunteer infantry military unit whose members – estimated at 900 – are ultra-nationalists and accused of harbouring neo-Nazi and white supremacist ideology.
The unit was initially formed as a volunteer group in May 2014 out of the ultra-nationalist Patriot of Ukraine gang, and the neo-Nazi Social National Assembly (SNA) group. Both groups engaged in xenophobic and neo-Nazi ideals and physically assaulted migrants, the Roma community and people opposing their views.
As a battalion, the group fought on the front lines against pro-Russian separatists in Donetsk, the eastern region of Ukraine. Just before launching the invasion, Putin recognised the independence of two rebel-held regions from Donbas.
A few months after recapturing the strategic port city of Mariupol from the Russian-backed separatists, the unit was officially integrated into the National Guard of Ukraine on November 12, 2014, and exacted high praise from then-President Petro Poroshenko.
"These are our best warriors," he said at an awards ceremony in 2014. "Our best volunteers."
Who founded Azov?
The unit was led by Andriy Biletsky, who served as the the leader of both the Patriot of Ukraine (founded in 2005) and the SNA (founded in 2008). The SNA is known to have carried out attacks on minority groups in Ukraine.
In 2010, Biletsky said Ukraine's national purpose was to "lead the white races of the world in a final crusade ... against Semite-led Untermenschen [inferior races]".
Biletsky was elected to parliament in 2014. He left Azov as elected officials cannot be in the military or police force. He remained an MP until 2019.
The 42-year-old is nicknamed Bely Vozd – or White Ruler – by his supporters. He established the far-right National Corps party in October 2016, whose core base is veterans of Azov.
Before becoming part of Ukraine's armed forces, who funded Azov?
The unit received backing from Ukraine's interior minister in 2014, as the government had recognised its own military was too weak to fight off the pro-Russian separatists and relied on paramilitary volunteer forces.
These forces were privately funded by oligarchs – the most known being Igor Kolomoisky, an energy magnate billionaire and then-governor of the Dnipropetrovska region.
In addition to Azov, Kolomoisky funded other volunteer battalions such as the Dnipro 1 and Dnipro 2, Aidar and Donbas units.
Azov received early funding and assistance from another oligarch: Serhiy Taruta, the billionaire governor of Donetsk region.
Neo-Nazi ideology
In 2015, Andriy Diachenko, the spokesperson for the regiment at the time said that 10 to 20 percent of Azov's recruits were Nazis.
In January 2018, Azov rolled out its street patrol unit called National Druzhyna to "restore" order in the capital, Kyiv. Instead, the unit carried out pogroms against the Roma community and attacked members of the LGBTQ community.
"Ukraine is the world's only nation to have a neo-Nazi formation in its armed forces," a correspondent for the US-based magazine, the Nation, wrote in 2019.
Human rights violations and war crimes
A 2016 report by the United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OCHA) has accused the Azov regiment of violating international humanitarian law.
The report detailed incidents over a period from November 2015-February 2016 where Azov had embedded their weapons and forces in used civilian buildings, and displaced residents after looting civilian properties. The report also accused the battalion of raping and torturing detainees in the Donbas region.
A little secret the white libtards runing the West don't want you to know.
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=442408 time=1646436358 user_id=56
A little secret the white libtards runing the West don't want you to know.
Everything the media and our politicians has fed us about this war is bullshit.
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=442408 time=1646436358 user_id=56
A little secret the white libtards runing the West don't want you to know.
If it is a secret, why are there pages of info about it on Wikipedia?
//https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion
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Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=442408 time=1646436358 user_id=56
A little secret the white libtards runing the West don't want you to know.
If it is a secret, why are there pages of info about it on Wikipedia?
//https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion
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I haven't heard CNN, CBC, MSNBC, CTV, BBC, and TorStar mention them one time. And even though only ten percent of Ukraine's military are Nazi members, the majority of officers agree with them.
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Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=442408 time=1646436358 user_id=56
A little secret the white libtards runing the West don't want you to know.
If it is a secret, why are there pages of info about it on Wikipedia?
//https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion
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You were aware of this Bricktop?
Quote from: Herman post_id=442404 time=1646434608 user_id=1689
Ukraine is the most openly racist country in Europe. The people fighting off Russians don't want the large scale immigration that Russia has had under Putin. They also are responsible for many war crimes.
Profile: Who are Ukraine's far-right Azov regiment?
The far-right neo-Nazi group has expanded to become part of Ukraine's armed forces, a street militia and a political party.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/1/who-are-the-azov-regiment
Azov is a far-right all-volunteer infantry military unit whose members – estimated at 900 – are ultra-nationalists and accused of harbouring neo-Nazi and white supremacist ideology.
The unit was initially formed as a volunteer group in May 2014 out of the ultra-nationalist Patriot of Ukraine gang, and the neo-Nazi Social National Assembly (SNA) group. Both groups engaged in xenophobic and neo-Nazi ideals and physically assaulted migrants, the Roma community and people opposing their views.
As a battalion, the group fought on the front lines against pro-Russian separatists in Donetsk, the eastern region of Ukraine. Just before launching the invasion, Putin recognised the independence of two rebel-held regions from Donbas.
A few months after recapturing the strategic port city of Mariupol from the Russian-backed separatists, the unit was officially integrated into the National Guard of Ukraine on November 12, 2014, and exacted high praise from then-President Petro Poroshenko.
"These are our best warriors," he said at an awards ceremony in 2014. "Our best volunteers."
Who founded Azov?
The unit was led by Andriy Biletsky, who served as the the leader of both the Patriot of Ukraine (founded in 2005) and the SNA (founded in 2008). The SNA is known to have carried out attacks on minority groups in Ukraine.
In 2010, Biletsky said Ukraine's national purpose was to "lead the white races of the world in a final crusade ... against Semite-led Untermenschen [inferior races]".
Biletsky was elected to parliament in 2014. He left Azov as elected officials cannot be in the military or police force. He remained an MP until 2019.
The 42-year-old is nicknamed Bely Vozd – or White Ruler – by his supporters. He established the far-right National Corps party in October 2016, whose core base is veterans of Azov.
Before becoming part of Ukraine's armed forces, who funded Azov?
The unit received backing from Ukraine's interior minister in 2014, as the government had recognised its own military was too weak to fight off the pro-Russian separatists and relied on paramilitary volunteer forces.
These forces were privately funded by oligarchs – the most known being Igor Kolomoisky, an energy magnate billionaire and then-governor of the Dnipropetrovska region.
In addition to Azov, Kolomoisky funded other volunteer battalions such as the Dnipro 1 and Dnipro 2, Aidar and Donbas units.
Azov received early funding and assistance from another oligarch: Serhiy Taruta, the billionaire governor of Donetsk region.
Neo-Nazi ideology
In 2015, Andriy Diachenko, the spokesperson for the regiment at the time said that 10 to 20 percent of Azov's recruits were Nazis.
In January 2018, Azov rolled out its street patrol unit called National Druzhyna to "restore" order in the capital, Kyiv. Instead, the unit carried out pogroms against the Roma community and attacked members of the LGBTQ community.
"Ukraine is the world's only nation to have a neo-Nazi formation in its armed forces," a correspondent for the US-based magazine, the Nation, wrote in 2019.
Human rights violations and war crimes
A 2016 report by the United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OCHA) has accused the Azov regiment of violating international humanitarian law.
The report detailed incidents over a period from November 2015-February 2016 where Azov had embedded their weapons and forces in used civilian buildings, and displaced residents after looting civilian properties. The report also accused the battalion of raping and torturing detainees in the Donbas region.
Ukrainians are more right wing than Russians.
Quote from: Gaon post_id=442434 time=1646446058 user_id=3170
Quote from: Herman post_id=442404 time=1646434608 user_id=1689
Ukraine is the most openly racist country in Europe. The people fighting off Russians don't want the large scale immigration that Russia has had under Putin. They also are responsible for many war crimes.
Profile: Who are Ukraine's far-right Azov regiment?
The far-right neo-Nazi group has expanded to become part of Ukraine's armed forces, a street militia and a political party.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/1/who-are-the-azov-regiment
Azov is a far-right all-volunteer infantry military unit whose members – estimated at 900 – are ultra-nationalists and accused of harbouring neo-Nazi and white supremacist ideology.
The unit was initially formed as a volunteer group in May 2014 out of the ultra-nationalist Patriot of Ukraine gang, and the neo-Nazi Social National Assembly (SNA) group. Both groups engaged in xenophobic and neo-Nazi ideals and physically assaulted migrants, the Roma community and people opposing their views.
As a battalion, the group fought on the front lines against pro-Russian separatists in Donetsk, the eastern region of Ukraine. Just before launching the invasion, Putin recognised the independence of two rebel-held regions from Donbas.
A few months after recapturing the strategic port city of Mariupol from the Russian-backed separatists, the unit was officially integrated into the National Guard of Ukraine on November 12, 2014, and exacted high praise from then-President Petro Poroshenko.
"These are our best warriors," he said at an awards ceremony in 2014. "Our best volunteers."
Who founded Azov?
The unit was led by Andriy Biletsky, who served as the the leader of both the Patriot of Ukraine (founded in 2005) and the SNA (founded in 2008). The SNA is known to have carried out attacks on minority groups in Ukraine.
In 2010, Biletsky said Ukraine's national purpose was to "lead the white races of the world in a final crusade ... against Semite-led Untermenschen [inferior races]".
Biletsky was elected to parliament in 2014. He left Azov as elected officials cannot be in the military or police force. He remained an MP until 2019.
The 42-year-old is nicknamed Bely Vozd – or White Ruler – by his supporters. He established the far-right National Corps party in October 2016, whose core base is veterans of Azov.
Before becoming part of Ukraine's armed forces, who funded Azov?
The unit received backing from Ukraine's interior minister in 2014, as the government had recognised its own military was too weak to fight off the pro-Russian separatists and relied on paramilitary volunteer forces.
These forces were privately funded by oligarchs – the most known being Igor Kolomoisky, an energy magnate billionaire and then-governor of the Dnipropetrovska region.
In addition to Azov, Kolomoisky funded other volunteer battalions such as the Dnipro 1 and Dnipro 2, Aidar and Donbas units.
Azov received early funding and assistance from another oligarch: Serhiy Taruta, the billionaire governor of Donetsk region.
Neo-Nazi ideology
In 2015, Andriy Diachenko, the spokesperson for the regiment at the time said that 10 to 20 percent of Azov's recruits were Nazis.
In January 2018, Azov rolled out its street patrol unit called National Druzhyna to "restore" order in the capital, Kyiv. Instead, the unit carried out pogroms against the Roma community and attacked members of the LGBTQ community.
"Ukraine is the world's only nation to have a neo-Nazi formation in its armed forces," a correspondent for the US-based magazine, the Nation, wrote in 2019.
Human rights violations and war crimes
A 2016 report by the United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OCHA) has accused the Azov regiment of violating international humanitarian law.
The report detailed incidents over a period from November 2015-February 2016 where Azov had embedded their weapons and forces in used civilian buildings, and displaced residents after looting civilian properties. The report also accused the battalion of raping and torturing detainees in the Donbas region.
Ukrainians are more right wing than Russians.
Frickin right they are. Putin is a nationalist, but he aint very right wing. All the immigrants that have entered Russia under his watch aint something a right winger would do.
Quote from: Herman post_id=442437 time=1646446492 user_id=1689
Quote from: Gaon post_id=442434 time=1646446058 user_id=3170
Quote from: Herman post_id=442404 time=1646434608 user_id=1689
Ukraine is the most openly racist country in Europe. The people fighting off Russians don't want the large scale immigration that Russia has had under Putin. They also are responsible for many war crimes.
Profile: Who are Ukraine's far-right Azov regiment?
The far-right neo-Nazi group has expanded to become part of Ukraine's armed forces, a street militia and a political party.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/1/who-are-the-azov-regiment
Azov is a far-right all-volunteer infantry military unit whose members – estimated at 900 – are ultra-nationalists and accused of harbouring neo-Nazi and white supremacist ideology.
The unit was initially formed as a volunteer group in May 2014 out of the ultra-nationalist Patriot of Ukraine gang, and the neo-Nazi Social National Assembly (SNA) group. Both groups engaged in xenophobic and neo-Nazi ideals and physically assaulted migrants, the Roma community and people opposing their views.
As a battalion, the group fought on the front lines against pro-Russian separatists in Donetsk, the eastern region of Ukraine. Just before launching the invasion, Putin recognised the independence of two rebel-held regions from Donbas.
A few months after recapturing the strategic port city of Mariupol from the Russian-backed separatists, the unit was officially integrated into the National Guard of Ukraine on November 12, 2014, and exacted high praise from then-President Petro Poroshenko.
"These are our best warriors," he said at an awards ceremony in 2014. "Our best volunteers."
Who founded Azov?
The unit was led by Andriy Biletsky, who served as the the leader of both the Patriot of Ukraine (founded in 2005) and the SNA (founded in 2008). The SNA is known to have carried out attacks on minority groups in Ukraine.
In 2010, Biletsky said Ukraine's national purpose was to "lead the white races of the world in a final crusade ... against Semite-led Untermenschen [inferior races]".
Biletsky was elected to parliament in 2014. He left Azov as elected officials cannot be in the military or police force. He remained an MP until 2019.
The 42-year-old is nicknamed Bely Vozd – or White Ruler – by his supporters. He established the far-right National Corps party in October 2016, whose core base is veterans of Azov.
Before becoming part of Ukraine's armed forces, who funded Azov?
The unit received backing from Ukraine's interior minister in 2014, as the government had recognised its own military was too weak to fight off the pro-Russian separatists and relied on paramilitary volunteer forces.
These forces were privately funded by oligarchs – the most known being Igor Kolomoisky, an energy magnate billionaire and then-governor of the Dnipropetrovska region.
In addition to Azov, Kolomoisky funded other volunteer battalions such as the Dnipro 1 and Dnipro 2, Aidar and Donbas units.
Azov received early funding and assistance from another oligarch: Serhiy Taruta, the billionaire governor of Donetsk region.
Neo-Nazi ideology
In 2015, Andriy Diachenko, the spokesperson for the regiment at the time said that 10 to 20 percent of Azov's recruits were Nazis.
In January 2018, Azov rolled out its street patrol unit called National Druzhyna to "restore" order in the capital, Kyiv. Instead, the unit carried out pogroms against the Roma community and attacked members of the LGBTQ community.
"Ukraine is the world's only nation to have a neo-Nazi formation in its armed forces," a correspondent for the US-based magazine, the Nation, wrote in 2019.
Human rights violations and war crimes
A 2016 report by the United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OCHA) has accused the Azov regiment of violating international humanitarian law.
The report detailed incidents over a period from November 2015-February 2016 where Azov had embedded their weapons and forces in used civilian buildings, and displaced residents after looting civilian properties. The report also accused the battalion of raping and torturing detainees in the Donbas region.
Ukrainians are more right wing than Russians.
Frickin right they are. Putin is a nationalist, but he aint very right wing. All the immigrants that have entered Russia under his watch aint something a right winger would do.
If Putin is a nationalist, he is a soft nationalist. Giving Islam equal status with the Russian Orthodox Church like he has is the opposite of nationalism.
It seems Vladimir Putin is doing the EU and NATO a favour by keeping Ukraine outside those organizations. Could you imagine Ukraine's nazified military on training exercises with the multiracial forces of the US and Britain. That would not go very well.
Ukraine can be corrupt.
It can be populated by thousands of Nazis.
Ukraine can be anything it wants to be, just like Canada, Australia and every other sovereign nation.
It still does NOT justify Russia invading it, destroying its buildings and killing its people.
How about recognising the real criminal act in the war, not the failings of the victim.
*I have no problem recognizing the real criminal in this. That of course is Washington, DC who encouraged this unnecessary war that Putin did not want. NATO acted as the cheerleader.
They're nazis?
Even if they are then
It's their country and if they want to be nazis then they can be nazis. As long as they stay within their borders and aren't committing atrocities then it's nobody's business but their own.
If I'm in my house and I feel like stripping down naked, spray painting myself purple, cracking a dozen eggs over my head and dancing the Hoochie Coo all night then that's exactly what I'm going to do. I'm minding my own business and not bothering anybody.
My neighbor may peek in my window and think me some kind of nut case but it does NOT give him the right to invade my home and kill me.
If you're now saying "Oh, it's okay, they're nazis" you'll soon be saying "Oh, it's okay, they're jews... or they're whites... or they're poor..."
Very very dangerous road to start treading down.
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They're nazis?
Even if they are then
It's their country and if they want to be nazis then they can be nazis. As long as they stay within their borders and aren't committing atrocities then it's nobody's business but their own.
If I'm in my house and I feel like stripping down naked, spray painting myself purple, cracking a dozen eggs over my head and dancing the Hoochie Coo all night then that's exactly what I'm going to do. I'm minding my own business and not bothering anybody.
My neighbor may peek in my window and think me some kind of nut case but it does NOT give him the right to invade my home and kill me.
If you're now saying "Oh, it's okay, they're nazis" you'll soon be saying "Oh, it's okay, they're jews... or they're whites... or they're poor..."
Very very dangerous road to start treading down.
I do not give a shit how messed up their army is.
I am Ukrainian, I have been to the country, I speak the language, and I almost retired there. I find it hilarious the bullshit narrative English language media is giving. Ukes make Poles and Hungarians look as left wing as American democRATs and yet they want them in the EU and NATO just so they can surround Russia. It is so frickin funny.
Democrats love what's happening in Ukraine—yes, you read that right. In today's show, Liz reveals the shocking truth about the Left's agenda as it relates to Ukraine, and it goes way beyond foreign policy and energy policy. If you thought the Democrats were corrupt before, wait until you hear this.
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I posted a video compilation of Azov units with nazi symbols on their uniforms or gear in another thread.
These are the type of people who gun down their own people and destroy buildings then blame it on their enemies.
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=442453 time=1646449903 user_id=1676
I posted a video compilation of Azov units with nazi symbols on their uniforms or gear in another thread.
These are the type of people who gun down their own people and destroy buildings then blame it on their enemies.
They are dirty little bastards.
Quote from: Herman post_id=442455 time=1646450143 user_id=1689
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=442453 time=1646449903 user_id=1676
I posted a video compilation of Azov units with nazi symbols on their uniforms or gear in another thread.
These are the type of people who gun down their own people and destroy buildings then blame it on their enemies.
They are dirty little bastards.
I believe they're the tip of the spear for information warfare and propaganda making....
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=442457 time=1646450624 user_id=1676
Quote from: Herman post_id=442455 time=1646450143 user_id=1689
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=442453 time=1646449903 user_id=1676
I posted a video compilation of Azov units with nazi symbols on their uniforms or gear in another thread.
These are the type of people who gun down their own people and destroy buildings then blame it on their enemies.
They are dirty little bastards.
I believe they're the tip of the spear for information warfare and propaganda making....
Any atrocities they commit, Russian forces will be blamed for.
Quote from: Herman post_id=442458 time=1646451453 user_id=1689
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=442457 time=1646450624 user_id=1676
Quote from: Herman post_id=442455 time=1646450143 user_id=1689
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=442453 time=1646449903 user_id=1676
I posted a video compilation of Azov units with nazi symbols on their uniforms or gear in another thread.
These are the type of people who gun down their own people and destroy buildings then blame it on their enemies.
They are dirty little bastards.
I believe they're the tip of the spear for information warfare and propaganda making....
Any atrocities they commit, Russian forces will be blamed for.
A lot of the nasty videos from last week were found to be the work of these units or likely supporters.... Ukrainian armor running over Ukrainians, checkpoint blood lust, shelling of Ukrainian residential buildings.
And it's not on the MSM.
The MSM won't mention the the Azov regiment.
The decision by the U.S. in the 1990s to expand NATO after the collapse of the Soviet Union shoud be judged as the cause of wars in the former Soviet Union and the former Yugoslavia. The US and Britain brainwashed their populations into believing the lie that Slobodan Milosevic and Vladimir Putin were responsible for Washington/NATO's warmongering.
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The decision by the U.S. in the 1990s to expand NATO after the collapse of the Soviet Union shoud be judged as the cause of wars in the former Soviet Union and the former Yugoslavia. The US and Britain brainwashed their populations into believing the lie that
There's a name I haven't heard in a long time..
But, I remember when he was considered a rogue leader and a war criminal by the Clinton administration and Tony Blair.
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=442453 time=1646449903 user_id=1676
I posted a video compilation of Azov units with nazi symbols on their uniforms or gear in another thread.
These are the type of people who gun down their own people and destroy buildings then blame it on their enemies.
As the egg caked purple Oliver has stated...so what? It is none of Russia's business.
Civilians are dying in a country that posed no imminent threat to Russia.
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=442483 time=1646462654 user_id=1560
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=442453 time=1646449903 user_id=1676
I posted a video compilation of Azov units with nazi symbols on their uniforms or gear in another thread.
These are the type of people who gun down their own people and destroy buildings then blame it on their enemies.
As the egg caked purple Oliver has stated...so what? It is none of Russia's business.
Civilians are dying in a country that posed no imminent threat to Russia.
That part of the equation isn't but the part where the Ukraine would invite in NATO missile batteries is....
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=442485 time=1646463251 user_id=1676
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=442483 time=1646462654 user_id=1560
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=442453 time=1646449903 user_id=1676
I posted a video compilation of Azov units with nazi symbols on their uniforms or gear in another thread.
These are the type of people who gun down their own people and destroy buildings then blame it on their enemies.
As the egg caked purple Oliver has stated...so what? It is none of Russia's business.
Civilians are dying in a country that posed no imminent threat to Russia.
That part of the equation isn't but the part where the Ukraine would invite in NATO missile batteries is....
I was reading in another thread the Biden administration could have prevented this. Not only did they not try to prevent it, they deliberately escalated it.
I am moving towards the opinion that NATO should be history. The Warsaw Pact is gone, it's time NATO packed it in too.
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I posted a video compilation of Azov units with nazi symbols on their uniforms or gear in another thread.
These are the type of people who gun down their own people and destroy buildings then blame it on their enemies.
As the egg caked purple Oliver has stated...so what? It is none of Russia's business.
Civilians are dying in a country that posed no imminent threat to Russia.
That part of the equation isn't but the part where the Ukraine would invite in NATO missile batteries is....
I was reading in another thread the Biden administration could have prevented this. Not only did they not try to prevent it, they deliberately escalated it.
I am moving towards the opinion that NATO should be history. The Warsaw Pact is gone, it's time NATO packed it in too.
NATO got mission creep after the fall of the USSR, then refused to dissolve itself. They're responsible for the loss of good faith which arose in the 90's and early 2000's.
Like/respect Russia or not, the US wouldn't allow nuke missiles n Cuba. The shoe is on the other foot now.
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Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=442453 time=1646449903 user_id=1676
I posted a video compilation of Azov units with nazi symbols on their uniforms or gear in another thread.
These are the type of people who gun down their own people and destroy buildings then blame it on their enemies.
As the egg caked purple Oliver has stated...so what? It is none of Russia's business.
Civilians are dying in a country that posed no imminent threat to Russia.
That part of the equation isn't but the part where the Ukraine would invite in NATO missile batteries is....
Agreed.
But that is WHEN NATO moved first strike weapons on Russia's eastern border, not IF.
There is no imminent threat to Russia's security, and Ukraine joining NATO was a long way off, if ever.
I agree that to this point, America has failed to act with respect to Russia's security. As they always have.
Invading Ukraine is not going to change their attitude. America needs to get out of Europe and let them handle their affairs.
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Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=442485 time=1646463251 user_id=1676
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=442483 time=1646462654 user_id=1560
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=442453 time=1646449903 user_id=1676
I posted a video compilation of Azov units with nazi symbols on their uniforms or gear in another thread.
These are the type of people who gun down their own people and destroy buildings then blame it on their enemies.
As the egg caked purple Oliver has stated...so what? It is none of Russia's business.
Civilians are dying in a country that posed no imminent threat to Russia.
That part of the equation isn't but the part where the Ukraine would invite in NATO missile batteries is....
Agreed.
But that is WHEN NATO moved first strike weapons on Russia's eastern border, not IF.
There is no imminent threat to Russia's security, and Ukraine joining NATO was a long way off, if ever.
I agree that to this point, America has failed to act with respect to Russia's security. As they always have.
Invading Ukraine is not going to change their attitude. America needs to get out of Europe and let them handle their affairs.
They've already been pushing for purely "defensive" missile capabilities on their Russian borders... by defensive, they mean can be swapped out for offensive in under 10 minutes and there's no way to know by others if it's happened.
Once launched, they can hit Moscow in under 6 minutes....
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Ukraine is the most openly racist country in Europe. The people fighting off Russians don't want the large scale immigration that Russia has had under Putin. They also are responsible for many war crimes.
Profile: Who are Ukraine's far-right Azov regiment?
The far-right neo-Nazi group has expanded to become part of Ukraine's armed forces, a street militia and a political party.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/1/who-are-the-azov-regiment
Azov is a far-right all-volunteer infantry military unit whose members – estimated at 900 – are ultra-nationalists and accused of harbouring neo-Nazi and white supremacist ideology.
The unit was initially formed as a volunteer group in May 2014 out of the ultra-nationalist Patriot of Ukraine gang, and the neo-Nazi Social National Assembly (SNA) group. Both groups engaged in xenophobic and neo-Nazi ideals and physically assaulted migrants, the Roma community and people opposing their views.
As a battalion, the group fought on the front lines against pro-Russian separatists in Donetsk, the eastern region of Ukraine. Just before launching the invasion, Putin recognised the independence of two rebel-held regions from Donbas.
A few months after recapturing the strategic port city of Mariupol from the Russian-backed separatists, the unit was officially integrated into the National Guard of Ukraine on November 12, 2014, and exacted high praise from then-President Petro Poroshenko.
"These are our best warriors," he said at an awards ceremony in 2014. "Our best volunteers."
Who founded Azov?
The unit was led by Andriy Biletsky, who served as the the leader of both the Patriot of Ukraine (founded in 2005) and the SNA (founded in 2008). The SNA is known to have carried out attacks on minority groups in Ukraine.
In 2010, Biletsky said Ukraine's national purpose was to "lead the white races of the world in a final crusade ... against Semite-led Untermenschen [inferior races]".
Biletsky was elected to parliament in 2014. He left Azov as elected officials cannot be in the military or police force. He remained an MP until 2019.
The 42-year-old is nicknamed Bely Vozd – or White Ruler – by his supporters. He established the far-right National Corps party in October 2016, whose core base is veterans of Azov.
Before becoming part of Ukraine's armed forces, who funded Azov?
The unit received backing from Ukraine's interior minister in 2014, as the government had recognised its own military was too weak to fight off the pro-Russian separatists and relied on paramilitary volunteer forces.
These forces were privately funded by oligarchs – the most known being Igor Kolomoisky, an energy magnate billionaire and then-governor of the Dnipropetrovska region.
In addition to Azov, Kolomoisky funded other volunteer battalions such as the Dnipro 1 and Dnipro 2, Aidar and Donbas units.
Azov received early funding and assistance from another oligarch: Serhiy Taruta, the billionaire governor of Donetsk region.
Neo-Nazi ideology
In 2015, Andriy Diachenko, the spokesperson for the regiment at the time said that 10 to 20 percent of Azov's recruits were Nazis.
In January 2018, Azov rolled out its street patrol unit called National Druzhyna to "restore" order in the capital, Kyiv. Instead, the unit carried out pogroms against the Roma community and attacked members of the LGBTQ community.
"Ukraine is the world's only nation to have a neo-Nazi formation in its armed forces," a correspondent for the US-based magazine, the Nation, wrote in 2019.
Human rights violations and war crimes
A 2016 report by the United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OCHA) has accused the Azov regiment of violating international humanitarian law.
The report detailed incidents over a period from November 2015-February 2016 where Azov had embedded their weapons and forces in used civilian buildings, and displaced residents after looting civilian properties. The report also accused the battalion of raping and torturing detainees in the Donbas region.
From what I have read about Ukraine, every leader they have had since the dissolution of the USSR would make Putin appear transparent by comparison.
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There is no imminent threat to Russia's security, and Ukraine joining NATO was a long way off, if ever.
Not according to the Biden administration. They wanted US troop buildups in NATO countries like Poland and fast tracking Ukraine into NATO. Putin's demands that the US reverse course were not only ignored, VP Harris escalated the tensions. Russia had no choice.
The US lead NATO instigates yet another war in Europe. The Warsaw Pact is gone, NATO should be history too.
Quote from: Herman post_id=442404 time=1646434608 user_id=1689
Ukraine is the most openly racist country in Europe. The people fighting off Russians don't want the large scale immigration that Russia has had under Putin. They also are responsible for many war crimes.
Profile: Who are Ukraine's far-right Azov regiment?
The far-right neo-Nazi group has expanded to become part of Ukraine's armed forces, a street militia and a political party.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/1/who-are-the-azov-regiment
Azov is a far-right all-volunteer infantry military unit whose members – estimated at 900 – are ultra-nationalists and accused of harbouring neo-Nazi and white supremacist ideology.
The unit was initially formed as a volunteer group in May 2014 out of the ultra-nationalist Patriot of Ukraine gang, and the neo-Nazi Social National Assembly (SNA) group. Both groups engaged in xenophobic and neo-Nazi ideals and physically assaulted migrants, the Roma community and people opposing their views.
As a battalion, the group fought on the front lines against pro-Russian separatists in Donetsk, the eastern region of Ukraine. Just before launching the invasion, Putin recognised the independence of two rebel-held regions from Donbas.
A few months after recapturing the strategic port city of Mariupol from the Russian-backed separatists, the unit was officially integrated into the National Guard of Ukraine on November 12, 2014, and exacted high praise from then-President Petro Poroshenko.
"These are our best warriors," he said at an awards ceremony in 2014. "Our best volunteers."
Who founded Azov?
The unit was led by Andriy Biletsky, who served as the the leader of both the Patriot of Ukraine (founded in 2005) and the SNA (founded in 2008). The SNA is known to have carried out attacks on minority groups in Ukraine.
In 2010, Biletsky said Ukraine's national purpose was to "lead the white races of the world in a final crusade ... against Semite-led Untermenschen [inferior races]".
Biletsky was elected to parliament in 2014. He left Azov as elected officials cannot be in the military or police force. He remained an MP until 2019.
The 42-year-old is nicknamed Bely Vozd – or White Ruler – by his supporters. He established the far-right National Corps party in October 2016, whose core base is veterans of Azov.
Before becoming part of Ukraine's armed forces, who funded Azov?
The unit received backing from Ukraine's interior minister in 2014, as the government had recognised its own military was too weak to fight off the pro-Russian separatists and relied on paramilitary volunteer forces.
These forces were privately funded by oligarchs – the most known being Igor Kolomoisky, an energy magnate billionaire and then-governor of the Dnipropetrovska region.
In addition to Azov, Kolomoisky funded other volunteer battalions such as the Dnipro 1 and Dnipro 2, Aidar and Donbas units.
Azov received early funding and assistance from another oligarch: Serhiy Taruta, the billionaire governor of Donetsk region.
Neo-Nazi ideology
In 2015, Andriy Diachenko, the spokesperson for the regiment at the time said that 10 to 20 percent of Azov's recruits were Nazis.
In January 2018, Azov rolled out its street patrol unit called National Druzhyna to "restore" order in the capital, Kyiv. Instead, the unit carried out pogroms against the Roma community and attacked members of the LGBTQ community.
"Ukraine is the world's only nation to have a neo-Nazi formation in its armed forces," a correspondent for the US-based magazine, the Nation, wrote in 2019.
Human rights violations and war crimes
A 2016 report by the United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OCHA) has accused the Azov regiment of violating international humanitarian law.
The report detailed incidents over a period from November 2015-February 2016 where Azov had embedded their weapons and forces in used civilian buildings, and displaced residents after looting civilian properties. The report also accused the battalion of raping and torturing detainees in the Donbas region.
Wowzers. Ukraine is a mess.
The irony out of all this is that Putin will achieve exactly the opposite of what he would have hoped.
NATO will strengthen their forces, Russia will never be trusted again and will remain encircled by increasingly menacing NATO first strike capabilities.
Russia will have gained nothing.
Ukraine a racist country?
What you are gonna see here is a talking rat trying to jump the ship after 9 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUja0J6mMds
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The irony out of all this is that Putin will achieve exactly the opposite of what he would have hoped.
NATO will strengthen their forces, Russia will never be trusted again and will remain encircled by increasingly menacing NATO first strike capabilities.
Russia will have gained nothing.
Someone posted that the German chancellor has said that NATO membership is off the table for Ukraine despite the American viec president saying before all of this that it should be fast tracked.
ac_dunno
U.S. and Western officials are grappling with the embarrassing fact that they oversold their backing for Kyiv and now face the reality that Putin has called their bluff with an invasion,
The West giving assistance to guerrrilla fighters in Ukraine is a really bad idea. Western governments don't seem all that selective about their potential partners in a Ukrainian resistance force. British military personnel already appear to be working with the National Guard to facilitate future cooperation.
Washington's experience in trying to vet factions in other countries to warrant similar U.S. support is not an encouraging one. U.S. backing for the Afghan Mujahedin in the 1980s ended up strengthening and disproportionately benefitting the most radical Islamic factions who were battling the Soviet army of occupation. Of course we now know one of the Arab volunteers the United States worked with was a young man named Osama Bin Laden. Washington's assistance to the Afghan resistance ultimately did not benefit either Afghanistan or the United States.
Other U.S. Cold War ventures did not fare much better. The United States embarrassed itself and thoroughly compromised American values by supporting unworthy, even odious, foreign clients in proxy wars against regimes that U.S. policymakers designated as adversaries. Backing the likes of the Nicaraguan Contras and Jonas Savimbi's authoritarian UNITA organization in Angola was not a source of pride for the United States.
Such follies did not end with the passing of the Cold War. Barack Obama's administration supported a motley collection of insurgents in Syria who were seeking to overthrow the government of Bashar al-Assad. Most of those factions proved to be radical Islamists, not advocates of Western democratic values. Moreover, even when Washington tried to confine its support to relatively moderate elements, much of the money and weaponry ended up in the hands of the Nusra Front and other extremist, even outright terrorist, operatives. We don't need a repetition of such embarrassing associations by supporting an armed resistance in Ukraine that would inevitably include fascistic elements.