And these animals wonder why conservatives seek to outlaw it
I'm inclined to be more of a moderate on this matter myself thinking it's up to the woman if she wants to have a child UNTIL there's a heartbeat. Then it's all bets are off
and I don't buy none of that but what if she's raped or doesn't know she's pregnant. bitch, in our day and age if there's no way you can enlighten yourself as to the fact that you are pregnant after 15 fucking weeks YOU fucking need to be aborted.
But with shit like this they're pulling I'm leaning towards saying fuckem... ban the shit all together.
animals
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/backlash-builds-after-democrats-vote-legalize-abortion-until-birth
It always snowballs.
Same thing with the gay situation.
First it was two men holding hands and now its gender reassignment surgery for kids and child drag-queens.
Today, he listens to jazz music... Tomorrow, he sells the motherland.
Truth
Quote from: Odinson post_id=450403 time=1652819284 user_id=136
It always snowballs.
Same thing with the gay situation.
First it was two men holding hands and now its gender reassignment surgery for kids and child drag-queens.
Today, he listens to jazz music... Tomorrow, he sells the motherland.
It's because people who push for things like partial birth abortion or gender reassignment for children will never be satisfied. You cannot compromise or negotiate with zealots and radicals.
Quote from: Renee post_id=450407 time=1652823995 user_id=156
Quote from: Odinson post_id=450403 time=1652819284 user_id=136
It always snowballs.
Same thing with the gay situation.
First it was two men holding hands and now its gender reassignment surgery for kids and child drag-queens.
Today, he listens to jazz music... Tomorrow, he sells the motherland.
It's because people who push for things like partial birth abortion or gender reassignment for children will never be satisfied. You cannot compromise or negotiate with zealots and radicals.
^^^ it's posts like these which clearly demonstrate this forum is in need of a post LIKE button :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
Quote from: "Biggie Smiles" post_id=450405 time=1652820533 user_id=3214
Truth
The Finn is right about that.
Quote from: Renee post_id=450407 time=1652823995 user_id=156
Quote from: Odinson post_id=450403 time=1652819284 user_id=136
It always snowballs.
Same thing with the gay situation.
First it was two men holding hands and now its gender reassignment surgery for kids and child drag-queens.
Today, he listens to jazz music... Tomorrow, he sells the motherland.
It's because people who push for things like partial birth abortion or gender reassignment for children will never be satisfied. You cannot compromise or negotiate with zealots and radicals.
I never thought in my fifty four years a nominee for the US Supreme Court doesn't know what a woman is. Am I in the Twilight Zone.
As some of you may have guessed, I am a social conservative..
I believe in a traditional definition of marriage, I'm pro life and identifying as the opposite gender doesn't make one that gender..
But, I am a Calvinist, and I don't believe in imposing my faith on secular society.
Quote from: "Biggie Smiles" post_id=450400 time=1652816557 user_id=3214
And these animals wonder why conservatives seek to outlaw it
I'm inclined to be more of a moderate on this matter myself thinking it's up to the woman if she wants to have a child UNTIL there's a heartbeat. Then it's all bets are off
and I don't buy none of that but what if she's raped or doesn't know she's pregnant. bitch, in our day and age if there's no way you can enlighten yourself as to the fact that you are pregnant after 15 fucking weeks YOU fucking need to be aborted.
But with shit like this they're pulling I'm leaning towards saying fuckem... ban the shit all together.
animals
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/backlash-builds-after-democrats-vote-legalize-abortion-until-birth
Who was the lone Senate Dem to vote against it? Joe Manchin?
Quote from: Renee post_id=450407 time=1652823995 user_id=156
Quote from: Odinson post_id=450403 time=1652819284 user_id=136
It always snowballs.
Same thing with the gay situation.
First it was two men holding hands and now its gender reassignment surgery for kids and child drag-queens.
Today, he listens to jazz music... Tomorrow, he sells the motherland.
It's because people who push for things like partial birth abortion or gender reassignment for children will never be satisfied. You cannot compromise or negotiate with zealots and radicals.
They have built their entire personalities around these issues... And they are lost without them.
I can almost understand abortion at the very early stages of pregnancy... But this is nazi stuff.
There is a point of no return... Its just plain homicide after that no matter what the law says and what you call it.
I don't like talking about abortion. I aint opposed to it in the first trimester. Hell, old Herman has paid a for a few gals's abortions. But, despite what progtards say, I could never get pregnant. This aint for men to decide.
Forget abortion. Let them eat feminine penis and catch the monkeypox. Problem solved.
Woman: Did you pull out in time?
Blazor: Yes I pulled out...
Woman: Oh, okay.
Blazor: [size=85]After I nutted[/size].
Woman: What!?
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=450419 time=1652829849 user_id=3254
As some of you may have guessed, I am a social conservative..
I believe in a traditional definition of marriage, I'm pro life and identifying as the opposite gender doesn't make one that gender..
But, I am a Calvinist, and I don't believe in imposing my faith on secular society.
Yes as a Calvinist Reformed Christian you know you cannot impose the gospel. God saves who He saves.
But law is law. Should it be legal to kill human beings? Not at all.
Homosexual civil unions are a government issue. It involves consenting people. As long as the church is the church and the state doesnt impose its standards ....is it really on the church to fuss about it?
Killing humans however? Nope nope nope. You dont even have to be a Christain to oppose that. You just have to be a Christian to account for your standards lol. We can say WHY we oppose murder, whereas secular society really cant. Secular pro life is an awesome group and they have the science ready.....but they miss the mark, because the heart of this is spiritual.
Quote from: Dove post_id=453395 time=1653643114 user_id=3266
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=450419 time=1652829849 user_id=3254
As some of you may have guessed, I am a social conservative..
I believe in a traditional definition of marriage, I'm pro life and identifying as the opposite gender doesn't make one that gender..
But, I am a Calvinist, and I don't believe in imposing my faith on secular society.
Yes as a Calvinist Reformed Christian you know you cannot impose the gospel. God saves who He saves.
But law is law. Should it be legal to kill human beings? Not at all.
Homosexual civil unions are a government issue. It involves consenting people. As long as the church is the church and the state doesnt impose its standards ....is it really on the church to fuss about it?
Killing humans however? Nope nope nope. You dont even have to be a Christain to oppose that. You just have to be a Christian to account for your standards lol. We can say WHY we oppose murder, whereas secular society really cant. Secular pro life is an awesome group and they have the science ready.....but they miss the mark, because the heart of this is spiritual.
I put my faith in a higher power than elected politicians or the Supreme Court of Canada..
Abortion horrifies me, but I have no illusion that Canada will ever even get an abortion law on the books..
We've no law law since 1987.
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=453427 time=1653651828 user_id=3254
Quote from: Dove post_id=453395 time=1653643114 user_id=3266
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=450419 time=1652829849 user_id=3254
As some of you may have guessed, I am a social conservative..
I believe in a traditional definition of marriage, I'm pro life and identifying as the opposite gender doesn't make one that gender..
But, I am a Calvinist, and I don't believe in imposing my faith on secular society.
Yes as a Calvinist Reformed Christian you know you cannot impose the gospel. God saves who He saves.
But law is law. Should it be legal to kill human beings? Not at all.
Homosexual civil unions are a government issue. It involves consenting people. As long as the church is the church and the state doesnt impose its standards ....is it really on the church to fuss about it?
Killing humans however? Nope nope nope. You dont even have to be a Christain to oppose that. You just have to be a Christian to account for your standards lol. We can say WHY we oppose murder, whereas secular society really cant. Secular pro life is an awesome group and they have the science ready.....but they miss the mark, because the heart of this is spiritual.
I put my faith in a higher power than elected politicians or the Supreme Court of Canada..
Abortion horrifies me, but I have no illusion that Canada will ever even get an abortion law on the books..
We've no law law since 1987.
Do you know who Laura Klassen is? Shes a Canadian anti abortion activist who runs an out reach called Choice42.
I think you would really like her.
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=453427 time=1653651828 user_id=3254
Quote from: Dove post_id=453395 time=1653643114 user_id=3266
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=450419 time=1652829849 user_id=3254
As some of you may have guessed, I am a social conservative..
I believe in a traditional definition of marriage, I'm pro life and identifying as the opposite gender doesn't make one that gender..
But, I am a Calvinist, and I don't believe in imposing my faith on secular society.
Yes as a Calvinist Reformed Christian you know you cannot impose the gospel. God saves who He saves.
But law is law. Should it be legal to kill human beings? Not at all.
Homosexual civil unions are a government issue. It involves consenting people. As long as the church is the church and the state doesnt impose its standards ....is it really on the church to fuss about it?
Killing humans however? Nope nope nope. You dont even have to be a Christain to oppose that. You just have to be a Christian to account for your standards lol. We can say WHY we oppose murder, whereas secular society really cant. Secular pro life is an awesome group and they have the science ready.....but they miss the mark, because the heart of this is spiritual.
I put my faith in a higher power than elected politicians or the Supreme Court of Canada..
Abortion horrifies me, but I have no illusion that Canada will ever even get an abortion law on the books..
We've had no law law since 1987.
There is no law in Canada prohibiting abortion in the third term.
Its relevant again.
Us guys dont seem to have the right to decide whether we want to be fathers or not.
There is that whole "dont have sex" argument but it could be applied to women who dont want to be mothers.
Quote from: Odinson post_id=461156 time=1656098865 user_id=136
Its relevant again.
Us guys dont seem to have the right to decide whether we want to be fathers or not.
There is that whole "dont have sex" argument but it could be applied to women who dont want to be mothers.
That's true Odi.
Quote from: Odinson post_id=461156 time=1656098865 user_id=136
Its relevant again.
Us guys dont seem to have the right to decide whether we want to be fathers or not.
Well it infringes upon the right of females to decide what they want to do with their bodies or not. I'm sure you've heard that argument floated before.
Very well then, let us apply this argument equally. If I as a Man have no right to comment on what a woman decides to do with her body, then in fairness the woman has no right to tell me what I might do with mine. This might reasonably include my decision on whether or not I chose to construct an abortion clinic with my bare hands. Last I checked, the lion's share of people in the construction industry were male, also that hard working bastards generally tended to NOT include the kinds of weedy, soy-sucking beta cucks whose noodly appendages were capable of brick and mortar work to construct anything.
If I have no right to tell a woman to consider her choice on whether or not to be a murderess, she has no right to force me to be complicit in her decision. That choice is mine and mine alone.
Now, shall we proceed on to how this line of reasoning might apply to things like second amendment rights, or can we assume the argiument will end just as badly for these leftards there too?
I support a woman's right to choose not to be forced into being a parent. But, I also support a man's right not be forced into a parent. Women have a window of time to decide if they don't want to be mothers. Men should have the same window of time to decide if they do not want to be fathers. Men and women deserve equal rights. Men cannot force women to be mothers, therefore women should not have the special privilege of forcing men to be fathers.
As I've told dozens of libtards, "you've done this to yourself". If only they had listened to me and agreed on sensible limitations, Roe wouldnt have been tossed out. America got tired after seeing so many buckets of torn apart, fully developed children. It was far too repulsive to ignore. I told em they were risking losing the whole enchilada.....and now they have.
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=461666 time=1656350137 user_id=3351
As I've told dozens of libtards, "you've done this to yourself". If only they had listened to me and agreed on sensible limitations, Roe wouldnt have been tossed out. America got tired after seeing so many buckets of torn apart, fully developed children. It was far too repulsive to ignore. I told em they were risking losing the whole enchilada.....and now they have.
I think Canada and the USA are the only two countries with no laws about abortion..
Although I'd imagine the American congress will quickly pass an abortion law before November.
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=461667 time=1656350762 user_id=3254
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=461666 time=1656350137 user_id=3351
As I've told dozens of libtards, "you've done this to yourself". If only they had listened to me and agreed on sensible limitations, Roe wouldnt have been tossed out. America got tired after seeing so many buckets of torn apart, fully developed children. It was far too repulsive to ignore. I told em they were risking losing the whole enchilada.....and now they have.
I think Canada and the USA are the only two countries with no laws about abortion..
Although I'd imagine the American congress will quickly pass an abortion law before November.
No doubt this isnt over by a long shot!!!!
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=461670 time=1656351358 user_id=3351
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=461667 time=1656350762 user_id=3254
I think Canada and the USA are the only two countries with no laws about abortion..
Although I'd imagine the American congress will quickly pass an abortion law before November.
No doubt this isnt over by a long shot!!!!
Canada has had no abortion law for thirty five years..
The USA will have a federal law within a year would be my guess.
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=461666 time=1656350137 user_id=3351
As I've told dozens of libtards, "you've done this to yourself". If only they had listened to me and agreed on sensible limitations, Roe wouldnt have been tossed out. America got tired after seeing so many buckets of torn apart, fully developed children. It was far too repulsive to ignore. I told em they were risking losing the whole enchilada.....and now they have.
amen... I agree 100%
pushing the goal posts further to the time of actual birth is despicable which is why I don't care at all if they feel their rights are being trampled
You do not have the right to murder a living human being. Especially when that human being can be delivered and survive outside of the womb as many late term abortions are.
16 weeks is more than sensible and there isn't a woman alive who could convince me that in today's day and age she does not posses the ability to discover if she is pregnant by that time.
16 weeks and before is a matter between you and God that you will one day have to provide an answer for; After 16 weeks is homicide and should be treated as a homicide.
end of
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=461677 time=1656359572 user_id=3254
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=461670 time=1656351358 user_id=3351
No doubt this isnt over by a long shot!!!!
Canada has had no abortion law for thirty five years..
The USA will have a federal law within a year would be my guess.
And to be honest, that would be perfectly fine by me. If the people, through their elected officials in congress, vote to legalize abortion up until the day of birth I'd be sickened by the gross depravity of our society, but I'd respect the constitutionality of it all
but this legislating off the bench shit is for the birds.
Quote from: "Biggie Smiles" post_id=461679 time=1656360751 user_id=3214
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=461677 time=1656359572 user_id=3254
Canada has had no abortion law for thirty five years..
The USA will have a federal law within a year would be my guess.
And to be honest, that would be perfectly fine by me. If the people, through their elected officials in congress, vote to legalize abortion up until the day of birth I'd be sickened by the gross depravity of our society, but I'd respect the constitutionality of it all
but this legislating off the bench shit is for the birds.
Congress will make an abortion law a priority before November I would assume.
Quote from: "Biggie Smiles" post_id=461678 time=1656360490 user_id=3214
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=461666 time=1656350137 user_id=3351
As I've told dozens of libtards, "you've done this to yourself". If only they had listened to me and agreed on sensible limitations, Roe wouldnt have been tossed out. America got tired after seeing so many buckets of torn apart, fully developed children. It was far too repulsive to ignore. I told em they were risking losing the whole enchilada.....and now they have.
amen... I agree 100%
pushing the goal posts further to the time of actual birth is despicable which is why I don't care at all if they feel their rights are being trampled
You do not have the right to murder a living human being. Especially when that human being can be delivered and survive outside of the womb as many late term abortions are.
16 weeks is more than sensible and there isn't a woman alive who could convince me that in today's day and age she does not posses the ability to discover if she is pregnant by that time.
16 weeks and before is a matter between you and God that you will one day have to provide an answer for; After 16 weeks is homicide and should be treated as a homicide.
end of
Sixteen weeks is too far along in a pregnancy.
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=461681 time=1656361674 user_id=3254
Quote from: "Biggie Smiles" post_id=461678 time=1656360490 user_id=3214
amen... I agree 100%
pushing the goal posts further to the time of actual birth is despicable which is why I don't care at all if they feel their rights are being trampled
You do not have the right to murder a living human being. Especially when that human being can be delivered and survive outside of the womb as many late term abortions are.
16 weeks is more than sensible and there isn't a woman alive who could convince me that in today's day and age she does not posses the ability to discover if she is pregnant by that time.
16 weeks and before is a matter between you and God that you will one day have to provide an answer for; After 16 weeks is homicide and should be treated as a homicide.
end of
Sixteen weeks is too far along in a pregnancy.
I personally agree but unlike these democrat liberal scum bag vermin I do not believe in pushing my beliefs unto others
White libtards have no fucking clue what that Supreme Court ruling means.
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=461683 time=1656366505 user_id=56
White libtards have no fucking clue what that Supreme Court ruling means.
sad innit? How utterly dumb and misinformed they wish to remain?
I asked one of them to read and interpret a 7 page piece of legislation which was being completely twisted into a narrative and she nearly lost her fucking mind at the thought.
And this was someone who claimed competency in the legal field
Quote from: "Biggie Smiles" post_id=461687 time=1656371867 user_id=3214
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=461683 time=1656366505 user_id=56
White libtards have no fucking clue what that Supreme Court ruling means.
sad innit? How utterly dumb and misinformed they wish to remain?
I asked one of them to read and interpret a 7 page piece of legislation which was being completely twisted into a narrative and she nearly lost her fucking mind at the thought.
And this was someone who claimed competency in the legal field
lol, I can probably guess who that was.
Quote from: "Biggie Smiles" post_id=461687 time=1656371867 user_id=3214
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=461683 time=1656366505 user_id=56
White libtards have no fucking clue what that Supreme Court ruling means.
sad innit? How utterly dumb and misinformed they wish to remain?
I asked one of them to read and interpret a 7 page piece of legislation which was being completely twisted into a narrative and she nearly lost her fucking mind at the thought.
And this was someone who claimed competency in the legal field
That forum is idiots.
Quote from: Herman post_id=461702 time=1656383470 user_id=1689
Quote from: "Biggie Smiles" post_id=461687 time=1656371867 user_id=3214
sad innit? How utterly dumb and misinformed they wish to remain?
I asked one of them to read and interpret a 7 page piece of legislation which was being completely twisted into a narrative and she nearly lost her fucking mind at the thought.
And this was someone who claimed competency in the legal field
That forum is idiots.
The whole democratic party is for idiots
it's pathetic
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=461695 time=1656380138 user_id=3254
Quote from: "Biggie Smiles" post_id=461687 time=1656371867 user_id=3214
sad innit? How utterly dumb and misinformed they wish to remain?
I asked one of them to read and interpret a 7 page piece of legislation which was being completely twisted into a narrative and she nearly lost her fucking mind at the thought.
And this was someone who claimed competency in the legal field
lol, I can probably guess who that was.
:laugh3:
Quote from: Odinson post_id=450709 time=1652988616 user_id=136
Quote from: Renee post_id=450407 time=1652823995 user_id=156
It's because people who push for things like partial birth abortion or gender reassignment for children will never be satisfied. You cannot compromise or negotiate with zealots and radicals.
They have built their entire personalities around these issues... And they are lost without them.
I can almost understand abortion at the very early stages of pregnancy... But this is nazi stuff.
There is a point of no return... Its just plain homicide after that no matter what the law says and what you call it.
That is why most civilized countries in Europe and the Americas limit abortion on demand to 15 or 16 weeks gestation. Abortion on demand beyond the 15 week cutoff is monstrous. It's an abomination in the eyes of any moral or ethical individual. But liberal radicals have proven themselves to be anything but moral or ethical or even smart, time and time again. So no one should be surprised by the out pouring of histrionic tears and nashing of teeth on the left over being told that you have no constitutional right to kill babies.
Quote from: Renee post_id=461801 time=1656440279 user_id=156
Quote from: Odinson post_id=450709 time=1652988616 user_id=136
They have built their entire personalities around these issues... And they are lost without them.
I can almost understand abortion at the very early stages of pregnancy... But this is nazi stuff.
There is a point of no return... Its just plain homicide after that no matter what the law says and what you call it.
That is why most civilized countries in Europe and the Americas limit abortion on demand to 15 or 16 weeks gestation. Abortion on demand beyond the 15 week cutoff is monstrous. It's an abomination in the eyes of any moral or ethical individual. But liberal radicals have proven themselves to be anything but moral or ethical or even smart, time and time again. So no one should be surprised by the out pouring of histrionic tears and nashing of teeth on the left over being told that you have no constitutional right to kill babies.
Do you think the Democrats in congress will try and push through an abortion law before November?
Quote from: Renee post_id=461801 time=1656440279 user_id=156
Quote from: Odinson post_id=450709 time=1652988616 user_id=136
They have built their entire personalities around these issues... And they are lost without them.
I can almost understand abortion at the very early stages of pregnancy... But this is nazi stuff.
There is a point of no return... Its just plain homicide after that no matter what the law says and what you call it.
That is why most civilized countries in Europe and the Americas limit abortion on demand to 15 or 16 weeks gestation. Abortion on demand beyond the 15 week cutoff is monstrous. It's an abomination in the eyes of any moral or ethical individual. But liberal radicals have proven themselves to be anything but moral or ethical or even smart, time and time again. So no one should be surprised by the out pouring of histrionic tears and nashing of teeth on the left over being told that you have no constitutional right to kill babies.
Nothing has changed though, at least federally in the States. Late term abortions are still legal?
My recommendation is keep me out of you, ladies. I NEVER pull out!!!! Once you're knocked up, you havin muh BAYBEE!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=461882 time=1656464889 user_id=3351
My recommendation is keep me out of you, ladies. I NEVER pull out!!!! Once you're knocked up, you havin muh BAYBEE!!!!!!!!!!
:001_rolleyes:
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=461883 time=1656465838 user_id=3254
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=461882 time=1656464889 user_id=3351
My recommendation is keep me out of you, ladies. I NEVER pull out!!!! Once you're knocked up, you havin muh BAYBEE!!!!!!!!!!
:001_rolleyes:
Good news is I've stuck around for their entire lives!!!!!
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=461896 time=1656477983 user_id=3351
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=461883 time=1656465838 user_id=3254
:001_rolleyes:
Good news is I've stuck around for their entire lives!!!!!
:smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=461896 time=1656477983 user_id=3351
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=461883 time=1656465838 user_id=3254
:001_rolleyes:
Good news is I've stuck around for their entire lives!!!!!
That's what real men do
I even raised mine on my own
that's why those feminist cunts can gain an ounce of traction with me like I'm one of their soyboi cockstains who doesn't know how to take care of his kids
Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=461851 time=1656456345 user_id=2015
Quote from: Renee post_id=461801 time=1656440279 user_id=156
That is why most civilized countries in Europe and the Americas limit abortion on demand to 15 or 16 weeks gestation. Abortion on demand beyond the 15 week cutoff is monstrous. It's an abomination in the eyes of any moral or ethical individual. But liberal radicals have proven themselves to be anything but moral or ethical or even smart, time and time again. So no one should be surprised by the out pouring of histrionic tears and nashing of teeth on the left over being told that you have no constitutional right to kill babies.
Nothing has changed though, at least federally in the States. Late term abortions are still legal?
In certain states, the "blue" states, late term abortion is still legal.
About 17 states had "trigger laws" on the books so as soon as Roe was overturned, at least 6 of those 17 states banned abortion. But at this time no one really knows what the outcome will be with exact certainty. In the rest of the 17 states abortion is in legal limbo. It appears that most of the "trigger" law states will ultimately craft some kind of "heartbeat" law and limit abortion on demand to 15 or 16 weeks gestation.
Quote from: Renee post_id=461941 time=1656530677 user_id=156
Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=461851 time=1656456345 user_id=2015
Nothing has changed though, at least federally in the States. Late term abortions are still legal?
In certain states, the "blue" states, late term abortion is still legal.
About 17 states had "trigger laws" on the books so as soon as Roe was overturned, at least 6 of those 17 states banned abortion. But at this time no one really knows what the outcome will be with exact certainty. In the rest of the 17 states abortion is in legal limbo. It appears that most of the "trigger" law states will ultimately craft some kind of "heartbeat" law and limit abortion on demand to 15 or 16 weeks gestation.
Could you explain trigger laws Renee?
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=461945 time=1656531239 user_id=3254
Quote from: Renee post_id=461941 time=1656530677 user_id=156
In certain states, the "blue" states, late term abortion is still legal.
About 17 states had "trigger laws" on the books so as soon as Roe was overturned, at least 6 of those 17 states banned abortion. But at this time no one really knows what the outcome will be with exact certainty. In the rest of the 17 states abortion is in legal limbo. It appears that most of the "trigger" law states will ultimately craft some kind of "heartbeat" law and limit abortion on demand to 15 or 16 weeks gestation.
Could you explain trigger laws Renee?
Trigger laws are reactive laws. They are uninforcable laws that are put on the books, just in case a particular law or circumstance should change. If that particular law or circumstance changes then the so called "trigger law" goes into effect. Many times they are used by a state or municipality as a "cover your ass" kind of thing but in the case of Roe v Wade they are ideologically driven.
Quote from: Renee post_id=461953 time=1656532712 user_id=156
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=461945 time=1656531239 user_id=3254
Could you explain trigger laws Renee?
Trigger laws are reactive laws. They are uninforcable laws that are put on the books, just in case a particular law or circumstance should change. If that particular law or circumstance changes then the so called "trigger law" goes into effect. Many times they are used by a state or municipality as a "cover your ass" kind of thing but in the case of Roe v Wade they are ideologically driven.
Oh, I see, thank you Renee.
Quote from: Renee post_id=461801 time=1656440279 user_id=156
Quote from: Odinson post_id=450709 time=1652988616 user_id=136
They have built their entire personalities around these issues... And they are lost without them.
I can almost understand abortion at the very early stages of pregnancy... But this is nazi stuff.
There is a point of no return... Its just plain homicide after that no matter what the law says and what you call it.
That is why most civilized countries in Europe and the Americas limit abortion on demand to 15 or 16 weeks gestation. Abortion on demand beyond the 15 week cutoff is monstrous. It's an abomination in the eyes of any moral or ethical individual. But liberal radicals have proven themselves to be anything but moral or ethical or even smart, time and time again. So no one should be surprised by the out pouring of histrionic tears and nashing of teeth on the left over being told that you have no constitutional right to kill babies.
These baby-killers are calling the killing of animals a "holocaust".
:laugh3:
They care more about animals than they do of human babies because the animal thing enables them to harass other people.
Quote from: Odinson post_id=462920 time=1657125554 user_id=136
Quote from: Renee post_id=461801 time=1656440279 user_id=156
That is why most civilized countries in Europe and the Americas limit abortion on demand to 15 or 16 weeks gestation. Abortion on demand beyond the 15 week cutoff is monstrous. It's an abomination in the eyes of any moral or ethical individual. But liberal radicals have proven themselves to be anything but moral or ethical or even smart, time and time again. So no one should be surprised by the out pouring of histrionic tears and nashing of teeth on the left over being told that you have no constitutional right to kill babies.
These baby-killers are calling the killing of animals a "holocaust".
:laugh3:
They care more about animals than they do of human babies because the animal thing enables them to harass other people.
I saw a video of some white libtard comparing deer hunting to a holocaust. :crazy:
Quote from: Odinson post_id=462920 time=1657125554 user_id=136
Quote from: Renee post_id=461801 time=1656440279 user_id=156
That is why most civilized countries in Europe and the Americas limit abortion on demand to 15 or 16 weeks gestation. Abortion on demand beyond the 15 week cutoff is monstrous. It's an abomination in the eyes of any moral or ethical individual. But liberal radicals have proven themselves to be anything but moral or ethical or even smart, time and time again. So no one should be surprised by the out pouring of histrionic tears and nashing of teeth on the left over being told that you have no constitutional right to kill babies.
These baby-killers are calling the killing of animals a "holocaust".
:laugh3:
They care more about animals than they do of human babies because the animal thing enables them to harass other people.
I like fur babies, but human babies are more important.
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=462932 time=1657135619 user_id=56
Quote from: Odinson post_id=462920 time=1657125554 user_id=136
These baby-killers are calling the killing of animals a "holocaust".
:laugh3:
They care more about animals than they do of human babies because the animal thing enables them to harass other people.
I saw a video of some white libtard comparing deer hunting to a holocaust. :crazy:
A sure sign that someone is not fit to live in society is when they value animal life over human.
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=462948 time=1657149378 user_id=3351
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=462932 time=1657135619 user_id=56
I saw a video of some white libtard comparing deer hunting to a holocaust. :crazy:
A sure sign that someone is not fit to live in society is when they value animal life over human.
They lack basic humanity.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oy3fU7TxCQ0
Quote from: Odinson post_id=463217 time=1657317813 user_id=136
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oy3fU7TxCQ0
What the hell is that thing. As if it would ever get knocked up.
If you gave it a hard pelvic thrust it's likely Krispy Kremes's batter and melted Slurpee would come flowing out like a busted dam....
Quote from: Herman post_id=463250 time=1657333088 user_id=1689
Quote from: Odinson post_id=463217 time=1657317813 user_id=136
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oy3fU7TxCQ0
What the hell is that thing. As if it would ever get knocked up.
The same kind of steaming pile of flubberguts that would doubtless be screaming for the forced "inoculation" of the "vaccine hesitant... a hypocritical fuckpig who, because they are so un-rootable, spend their every waking moment screaming for the right to fuck things up for everyone else.
"My body my choice"? John Lydon has these cunts dead to rights a generation ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzT5sBg79XQ
"When you run about without precautions, you'll get diseased and need abortions
And up till now no vaccination can give you back your reputation
We want your body"
It's all very well to scream "my body, my choice", even if you're 600 pounds light and cracking concrete slabs with your every step. But for fucks sake, WALK that walk and learn to tread lightly when it comes to other peoples bodies.
Including those who have yet to feel the sun on their brow.
Fuckers.
What happened to my body on vaccinations.
Abortion in the first trimester, fine. Both sides of the debate South of the border should be able to agree to that.
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=463608 time=1657557323 user_id=56
Abortion in the first trimester, fine. Both sides of the debate South of the border should be able to agree to that.
That is how it is in most first world countries. American progs want to kill in the final trimester.
I believe Canada and the USA are the only advanced nations that don't have federal abortion laws.
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=463670 time=1657593205 user_id=3254
I believe Canada and the USA are the only advanced nations that don't have federal abortion laws.
It appears the U.S. is the only country that does it on a state-by-state basis - https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-where-abortion-is-illegal
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=462932 time=1657135619 user_id=56
Quote from: Odinson post_id=462920 time=1657125554 user_id=136
These baby-killers are calling the killing of animals a "holocaust".
:laugh3:
They care more about animals than they do of human babies because the animal thing enables them to harass other people.
I saw a video of some white libtard comparing deer hunting to a holocaust. :crazy:
The loony anti-hunting morons come out to play every hunting season. Every year dozens of them get arrested for harrassing legal hunters... They have been doing it for decades. They are usually white, hygienically challenged, perpetually outraged, coddled, urban, neck beards and their homely blue haired, facially pierced girlfriends named Adison or Emily.
Quote from: Renee post_id=463866 time=1657732300 user_id=156
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=462932 time=1657135619 user_id=56
I saw a video of some white libtard comparing deer hunting to a holocaust. :crazy:
The loony anti-hunting morons come out to play every hunting season. Every year dozens of them get arrested for harrassing legal hunters... They have been doing it for decades. They are usually white, hygienically challenged, perpetually outraged, coddled, urban, neck beards and their homely blue haired, facially pierced girlfriends named Adison or Emily.
You lick my arse right now!
This strength!???
https://youtu.be/a66QCJ1eRko
Quote from: Breakfall post_id=463868 time=1657732532 user_id=3358
Quote from: Renee post_id=463866 time=1657732300 user_id=156
The loony anti-hunting morons come out to play every hunting season. Every year dozens of them get arrested for harrassing legal hunters... They have been doing it for decades. They are usually white, hygienically challenged, perpetually outraged, coddled, urban, neck beards and their homely blue haired, facially pierced girlfriends named Adison or Emily.
You lick my arse right now!
Sexual harassment!
Triggering.
Quote from: Renee post_id=463866 time=1657732300 user_id=156
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=462932 time=1657135619 user_id=56
I saw a video of some white libtard comparing deer hunting to a holocaust. :crazy:
The loony anti-hunting morons come out to play every hunting season. Every year dozens of them get arrested for harrassing legal hunters... They have been doing it for decades. They are usually white, hygienically challenged, perpetually outraged, coddled, urban, neck beards and their homely blue haired, facially pierced girlfriends named Adison or Emily.
:roll:
Quote from: Odinson post_id=463870 time=1657735666 user_id=136
Quote from: Breakfall post_id=463868 time=1657732532 user_id=3358
You lick my arse right now!
Sexual harassment!
Triggering.
Jesus! Was it that easy?
Quote from: Renee post_id=463866 time=1657732300 user_id=156
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=462932 time=1657135619 user_id=56
I saw a video of some white libtard comparing deer hunting to a holocaust. :crazy:
The loony anti-hunting morons come out to play every hunting season. Every year dozens of them get arrested for harrassing legal hunters... They have been doing it for decades. They are usually white, hygienically challenged, perpetually outraged, coddled, urban, neck beards and their homely blue haired, facially pierced girlfriends named Adison or Emily.
Sounds like a good opportunity for a "hunting accident".
Paternity fraud should get you at least 10 years prison-time.
And paternity-tests should be mandatory.
We should also have the right to deny the fatherhood if we dont want the baby.
Quote from: Odinson post_id=464219 time=1657898465 user_id=136
We should also have the right to deny the fatherhood if we dont want the baby.
Herman has been saying that for a long, long time.
Vasectomy.
You would be shooting blanks.
:swoon:
I am pro choice, Men should not have the right to force women to be mothers. Women should not have the right to force men to be fathers. Men should be given a three month opting out window just like women have.
Quote from: "Oliver Clotheshoffe" post_id=463744 time=1657661762 user_id=3349
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=463670 time=1657593205 user_id=3254
I believe Canada and the USA are the only advanced nations that don't have federal abortion laws.
It appears the U.S. is the only country that does it on a state-by-state basis - https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-where-abortion-is-illegal
Well a yank could weigh in on this and correct me here, but I was under the impression it was a constitutional republic, and the states themselves functioned more or less as countries in their own right. More or less like the individual member states of the EU. You should almost expect the question of things like abortion to be left to the states to decide, the federal government should stick to things like... I dunno... defending the fucking borders for a start. Treating and parleying on behalf of the states it represents for goods that cannot be managed at a state level and attempting to secure the best possible price on the surplus they export. That would be a lot more sensible than screeching the sky was falling because SCOTUS had told them to wind their bloody necks in.
Quote from: UoT post_id=466057 time=1658387601
Quote from: "Oliver Clotheshoffe" post_id=463744 time=1657661762 user_id=3349
It appears the U.S. is the only country that does it on a state-by-state basis - https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-where-abortion-is-illegal
Well a yank could weigh in on this and correct me here, but I was under the impression it was a constitutional republic, and the states themselves functioned more or less as countries in their own right. More or less like the individual member states of the EU. You should almost expect the question of things like abortion to be left to the states to decide, the federal government should stick to things like... I dunno... defending the fucking borders for a start. Treating and parleying on behalf of the states it represents for goods that cannot be managed at a state level and attempting to secure the best possible price on the surplus they export. That would be a lot more sensible than screeching the sky was falling because SCOTUS had told them to wind their bloody necks in.
I read the American congress is going to codify same sex marriage......they'll probably do the same with abortion.
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=466058 time=1658402933 user_id=3254
Quote from: UoT post_id=466057 time=1658387601
Well a yank could weigh in on this and correct me here, but I was under the impression it was a constitutional republic, and the states themselves functioned more or less as countries in their own right. More or less like the individual member states of the EU. You should almost expect the question of things like abortion to be left to the states to decide, the federal government should stick to things like... I dunno... defending the fucking borders for a start. Treating and parleying on behalf of the states it represents for goods that cannot be managed at a state level and attempting to secure the best possible price on the surplus they export. That would be a lot more sensible than screeching the sky was falling because SCOTUS had told them to wind their bloody necks in.
I read the American congress is going to codify same sex marriage......they'll probably do the same with abortion.
I've no doubt they will saber rattle to that effect and the current administration is arguably despotic enough to resort to that level of power grab. Give it enough time they might even push drag queens and MAPs to the head of the queue for preferred child adopters.
Which is why it is important to cement the lame duck status of the current administration at the mid terms.
Quote from: UoT post_id=466205 time=1658485597
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=466058 time=1658402933 user_id=3254
I read the American congress is going to codify same sex marriage......they'll probably do the same with abortion.
I've no doubt they will saber rattle to that effect and the current administration is arguably despotic enough to resort to that level of power grab. Give it enough time they might even push drag queens and MAPs to the head of the queue for preferred child adopters.
Which is why it is important to cement the lame duck status of the current administration at the mid terms.
I checked the acronym MAP.
:shock:
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=466206 time=1658489611 user_id=3254
Quote from: UoT post_id=466205 time=1658485597
I've no doubt they will saber rattle to that effect and the current administration is arguably despotic enough to resort to that level of power grab. Give it enough time they might even push drag queens and MAPs to the head of the queue for preferred child adopters.
Which is why it is important to cement the lame duck status of the current administration at the mid terms.
I checked the acronym MAP.
:shock:
Mmm. Would it shock you to learn there are those who are trying to fold that particular cancer into the LGBTWIA2+etc movement, right along with other groups that similarly have no business in being there?
Quote from: UoT post_id=466057 time=1658387601
Well a yank could weigh in on this and correct me here, but I was under the impression it was a constitutional republic, and the states themselves functioned more or less as countries in their own right. More or less like the individual member states of the EU.
Abortion is mentioned nowhere in the constitution and any powers not specifically granted to the federal government by the constitution revert to the states or the people.
Quote from: "Oliver Clotheshoffe" post_id=466585 time=1658686589 user_id=3349
Quote from: UoT post_id=466057 time=1658387601
Well a yank could weigh in on this and correct me here, but I was under the impression it was a constitutional republic, and the states themselves functioned more or less as countries in their own right. More or less like the individual member states of the EU.
Abortion is mentioned nowhere in the constitution and any powers not specifically granted to the federal government by the constitution revert to the states or the people.
Is that how it works? I honestly didn't know that.
Quote from: UoT post_id=466566 time=1658658388
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=466206 time=1658489611 user_id=3254
I checked the acronym MAP.
:shock:
Mmm. Would it shock you to learn there are those who are trying to fold that particular cancer into the LGBTWIA2+etc movement, right along with other groups that similarly have no business in being there?
But, minor attracted person.
:swoon:
Quote from: UoT post_id=466566 time=1658658388
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=466206 time=1658489611 user_id=3254
I checked the acronym MAP.
:shock:
Mmm. Would it shock you to learn there are those who are trying to fold that particular cancer into the LGBTWIA2+etc movement, right along with other groups that similarly have no business in being there?
Like furries. Furries want to be a protected group.
Glorified cosplayers is what they are.
Quote from: "The Treasurer" post_id=466627 time=1658710926 user_id=3382
Quote from: UoT post_id=466566 time=1658658388
Mmm. Would it shock you to learn there are those who are trying to fold that particular cancer into the LGBTWIA2+etc movement, right along with other groups that similarly have no business in being there?
Like furries. Furries want to be a protected group.
Glorified cosplayers is what they are.
They do?
Quote from: Herman post_id=466613 time=1658706300 user_id=1689
Is that how it works? I honestly didn't know that.
Yup. It's the 10th amendment to the constitution -
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=466629 time=1658711183 user_id=3254
Quote from: "The Treasurer" post_id=466627 time=1658710926 user_id=3382
Like furries. Furries want to be a protected group.
Glorified cosplayers is what they are.
They do?
There's been talk of it, yes. They want to be taken seriously. What better way than to ride the coattails of the queers?
It'll never happen though.
I don't hate anyone on an individual level, but I despise furries in general.
Quote from: "The Treasurer" post_id=466631 time=1658711424 user_id=3382
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=466629 time=1658711183 user_id=3254
They do?
There's been talk of it, yes. They want to be taken seriously. What better way than to ride the coattails of the queers?
It'll never happen though.
They like to wear costumes. that's all.
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=466632 time=1658711525 user_id=3254
Quote from: "The Treasurer" post_id=466631 time=1658711424 user_id=3382
There's been talk of it, yes. They want to be taken seriously. What better way than to ride the coattails of the queers?
It'll never happen though.
They like to wear costumes. that's all.
That's what they want you to think. Don't leave any of them alone with your pets.
Quote from: "The Treasurer" post_id=466633 time=1658712096 user_id=3382
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=466632 time=1658711525 user_id=3254
They like to wear costumes. that's all.
That's what they want you to think. Don't leave any of them alone with your pets.
Thank you, I won't.
Quote from: Odinson post_id=464219 time=1657898465 user_id=136
Paternity fraud should get you at least 10 years prison-time.
And paternity-tests should be mandatory.
We should also have the right to deny the fatherhood if we dont want the baby.
I offered for mine to walk away and leave us alone and I don't want his money.
But nooo...he had to stick it out and be a prick... the courts fucked me too.....in the end I put him and the courts in their spot....either go to jail OR give me what I request. He lost custody and pays me money....he got what he was asking for.
I don't like talking about abortion.
Birth-rates are very low in Spain...
And they have started some feminist campaign where they show rainbow T-shirt wearing cuckolds borderline breastfeeding the kids with a fake-tit.
I´m sure that encourages the Spanish men to start a family.
You know what I like about abortion?
The people who advocate for it most strenuously are the ones who will end up breeding themselves out of the human race.
And these same empowered women are pro-abortion...
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/G8GEfeWc_r4
Quote from: Odinson post_id=467666 time=1659293492 user_id=136
Birth-rates are very low in Spain...
And they have started some feminist campaign where they show rainbow T-shirt wearing cuckolds borderline breastfeeding the kids with a fake-tit.
I´m sure that encourages the Spanish men to start a family.
:ohmy:
Quote from: Odinson post_id=467666 time=1659293492 user_id=136
Birth-rates are very low in Spain...
And they have started some feminist campaign where they show rainbow T-shirt wearing cuckolds borderline breastfeeding the kids with a fake-tit.
I´m sure that encourages the Spanish men to start a family.
...maybe cuz few except the rich can afford children.
I hear the cost of living and taxes are very high in Europe so it doesn't leave much left over to start a family.
Quote from: "Just Joe" post_id=469511 time=1659933641
Quote from: Odinson post_id=467666 time=1659293492 user_id=136
Birth-rates are very low in Spain...
And they have started some feminist campaign where they show rainbow T-shirt wearing cuckolds borderline breastfeeding the kids with a fake-tit.
I´m sure that encourages the Spanish men to start a family.
...maybe cuz few except the rich can afford children.
I hear the cost of living and taxes are very high in Europe so it doesn't leave much left over to start a family.
Are you saying Europe's birth rate is so low because they don't have much disposable income?
Niger has the highet birth rate in the world.
Maybe its because the Spanish men dont want to be mothers.
"Today, you change the diaper; Tomorrow, you turn into a woman" - Old Russian proverb.
If you have a limp noodle, no viagra for you...it is God's will. Ban viagra. Limp for life, yo!
Quote from: "Berry Sweet" post_id=469743 time=1660016985 user_id=164
If you have a limp noodle, no viagra for you...it is God's will. Ban viagra. Limp for life, yo!
What if you are my viagra?
Quote from: Breakfall post_id=463868 time=1657732532 user_id=3358
Quote from: Renee post_id=463866 time=1657732300 user_id=156
The loony anti-hunting morons come out to play every hunting season. Every year dozens of them get arrested for harrassing legal hunters... They have been doing it for decades. They are usually white, hygienically challenged, perpetually outraged, coddled, urban, neck beards and their homely blue haired, facially pierced girlfriends named Adison or Emily.
You lick my arse right now!
How about I just shove my fist up your asshole?
Would you like that better? Hold on while I take off my watch.
Quote from: Renee post_id=474273 time=1662491982 user_id=156
Quote from: Breakfall post_id=463868 time=1657732532 user_id=3358
You lick my arse right now!
How about I just shove my fist up your asshole?
Would you like that better? Hold on while I take off my watch.
ac_toofunny
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=474278 time=1662492694
Quote from: Renee post_id=474273 time=1662491982 user_id=156
How about I just shove my fist up your asshole?
Would you like that better? Hold on while I take off my watch.
ac_toofunny
ac_lmfao
Legalize abortion up to two years.
Quote from: Edward post_id=474567 time=1662699119
Legalize abortion up to two years.
Make it 52 years and society is done with a burden like you.