Prime Minister Scott Morrison conceded defeat after an election on Saturday and the opposition Labor Party was set to end almost a decade of conservative rule, possibly with the support of pro-environment independents.
Partial results showed Morrison's Liberal-National coalition had been punished by voters in Western Australia and affluent urban seats in particular.
"Tonight, I have spoken to the Leader of the Opposition and the incoming Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese. And I've congratulated him on his election victory this evening," Morrison said, stepping down as leader of his party.
Labor had yet to reach the 76 of the 151 lower house seats required to form a government alone. Final results could take time as counting of a record number of postal votes is completed.
A strong showing by the Greens and a of group of so-called "teal independents," who campaigned on policies of integrity, equality and tackling climate change, means the makeup of the new parliament looks set to be much less climate-skeptic than the one that supported Morrison's pro-coal mining administration.
			
			
			
				Fucking socialist cunt Albanese..
He's worse than Bernie Sanders.
			
			
			
				Well thank Christ Albanese is willing to address climate change. Now let's see if he fulfils all of his promises and we don't have another lying muppet like Scomocchio governing the country. 
Good luck with him trying to unite a divided nation too. Standing in the centre and governing all Australians will be a massive task for sure. 
It won't be easy for Albanese!

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				Albanese is a stooge and man-made climate change is a farce. 
Australians deserve who we voted for. 
We'll soon be a Venezuela of the south seas.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=451489 time=1653209767 user_id=1676
Albanese is a stooge and man-made climate change is a farce. 
Australians deserve who we voted for. 
We'll soon be a Venezuela of the south seas.
Climate change isn't a farce. Albanese may help educate the nation!? Who the hell knows? Time will tell.
You should back up your claims when you choose to make such outlandish statements. Did you even know that disturbing the moon's lunar surface raised it's core temperature? Enough of the stubborn silly talk.
			 
			
			
				Anthropogenic climate change is a farce foisted on the gullible....
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=451497 time=1653218338 user_id=1676
Anthropogenic climate change is a farce foisted on the gullible....
Climate change has occurred in this world since the year dot. Not my point. The climate change today is a result of humankind's accelerated impact on the world. It's called a carbon footprint and it has implications on future generations. For people to argue against humankind's impact is both selfish and irresponsible. I'm qualified on the subject. But do continue to sway me...
			 
			
			
				:001_rolleyes: 
You've been duped...
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=451504 time=1653224787 user_id=1676
:001_rolleyes: 
You've been duped...
Hahahahaa...no I haven't. I'm quite in touch with the reality of situation life. The cold hard facts and negative impact that humanity has had on our world and the climate itself is irrefutable.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=451489 time=1653209767 user_id=1676
Albanese is a stooge and man-made climate change is a farce. 
Australians deserve who we voted for. 
We'll soon be a Venezuela of the south seas.
A socialist-green coalition. It doesn't get any worse for the middle class. Hold on to your wallets and say goodbye to investment. You see in Canada what an ideologically driven regime has meant for average Canadians. 
I predict this new Australian regime will be one and done.
			 
			
			
				Probably got thrown out because of the draconian Covid measures they forced on everyone.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Oliver Clotheshoffe" post_id=451559 time=1653233625 user_id=3349
Probably got thrown out because of the draconian Covid measures they forced on everyone.
But, the Labour Party probably wanted more and continue with them.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: cc post_id=451449 time=1653184819 user_id=88
Prime Minister Scott Morrison conceded defeat after an election on Saturday and the opposition Labor Party was set to end almost a decade of conservative rule, possibly with the support of pro-environment independents.
Partial results showed Morrison's Liberal-National coalition had been punished by voters in Western Australia and affluent urban seats in particular.
"Tonight, I have spoken to the Leader of the Opposition and the incoming Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese. And I've congratulated him on his election victory this evening," Morrison said, stepping down as leader of his party.
Labor had yet to reach the 76 of the 151 lower house seats required to form a government alone. Final results could take time as counting of a record number of postal votes is completed.
A strong showing by the Greens and a of group of so-called "teal independents," who campaigned on policies of integrity, equality and tackling climate change, means the makeup of the new parliament looks set to be much less climate-skeptic than the one that supported Morrison's pro-coal mining administration.
God help Australians. A prog green coalition means a few people do very well at the expense of the masses. The climate emergency that developed countries talk about is all baloney. It is a cover to make the middle class poor.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=451581 time=1653236596 user_id=2015
God help Australians. A prog green coalition means a few people do very well at the expense of the masses. The climate emergency that developed countries talk about is all baloney. It is a cover to make the middle class poor.
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=451536 time=1653229594 user_id=114
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=451489 time=1653209767 user_id=1676
Albanese is a stooge and man-made climate change is a farce. 
Australians deserve who we voted for. 
We'll soon be a Venezuela of the south seas.
A socialist-green coalition. It doesn't get any worse for the middle class. Hold on to your wallets and say goodbye to investment. You see in Canada what an ideologically driven regime has meant for average Canadians. 
I predict this new Australian regime will be one and done.
True dat  ... socialists with not quite enough votes to rule have to sell their soul  to green in order to rule
A deadly and destructive mix
			 
			
			
				Quote from: cc post_id=451601 time=1653239809 user_id=88
Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=451581 time=1653236596 user_id=2015
God help Australians. A prog green coalition means a few people do very well at the expense of the masses. The climate emergency that developed countries talk about is all baloney. It is a cover to make the middle class poor.
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=451536 time=1653229594 user_id=114
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=451489 time=1653209767 user_id=1676
Albanese is a stooge and man-made climate change is a farce. 
Australians deserve who we voted for. 
We'll soon be a Venezuela of the south seas.
A socialist-green coalition. It doesn't get any worse for the middle class. Hold on to your wallets and say goodbye to investment. You see in Canada what an ideologically driven regime has meant for average Canadians. 
I predict this new Australian regime will be one and done.
True dat  ... socialists with not quite enough votes to rule have to sell their soul  to green in order to rule
A deadly and destructive mix
It makes me sick the way traditional socialist parties like the NDP or Aussie Labour have made a deal with the green devil.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: cc post_id=451449 time=1653184819 user_id=88
Prime Minister Scott Morrison conceded defeat after an election on Saturday and the opposition Labor Party was set to end almost a decade of conservative rule, possibly with the support of pro-environment independents.
Partial results showed Morrison's Liberal-National coalition had been punished by voters in Western Australia and affluent urban seats in particular.
"Tonight, I have spoken to the Leader of the Opposition and the incoming Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese. And I've congratulated him on his election victory this evening," Morrison said, stepping down as leader of his party.
Labor had yet to reach the 76 of the 151 lower house seats required to form a government alone. Final results could take time as counting of a record number of postal votes is completed.
A strong showing by the Greens and a of group of so-called "teal independents," who campaigned on policies of integrity, equality and tackling climate change, means the makeup of the new parliament looks set to be much less climate-skeptic than the one that supported Morrison's pro-coal mining administration.
I hope Australian families aren't forced to struggle financially because of the government elect.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: cc post_id=451449 time=1653184819 user_id=88
Prime Minister Scott Morrison conceded defeat after an election on Saturday and the opposition Labor Party was set to end almost a decade of conservative rule, possibly with the support of pro-environment independents.
Partial results showed Morrison's Liberal-National coalition had been punished by voters in Western Australia and affluent urban seats in particular.
"Tonight, I have spoken to the Leader of the Opposition and the incoming Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese. And I've congratulated him on his election victory this evening," Morrison said, stepping down as leader of his party.
Labor had yet to reach the 76 of the 151 lower house seats required to form a government alone. Final results could take time as counting of a record number of postal votes is completed.
A strong showing by the Greens and a of group of so-called "teal independents," who campaigned on policies of integrity, equality and tackling climate change, means the makeup of the new parliament looks set to be much less climate-skeptic than the one that supported Morrison's pro-coal mining administration.
Bricktop lead us to believe Australians had more sense than this.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: Thiel post_id=451634 time=1653244763 user_id=1688
Bricktop lead us to believe Australians had more sense than this.
Ya. Seems when he got to the fork, he took us down the wrong path
			 
			
			
				Quote from: Bonkerfist post_id=451477 time=1653201426 user_id=3358
Well thank Christ Albanese is willing to address climate change. Now let's see if he fulfils all of his promises and we don't have another lying muppet like Scomocchio governing the country. 
Good luck with him trying to unite a divided nation too. Standing in the centre and governing all Australians will be a massive task for sure. 
It won't be easy for Albanese
What the hell is this prog clown going to do about climate change besides take a bunch of planes to the next summit and promise Australian tax dollars to China. Australia, much like Canada is a bit player. The real action needs to be in the emerging nations who don't give a damn if the climate keeps changing or not.  Any Aussie politician that says he or she can stop the climate from changing is lying to you. What they will do is make life more expensive and make sure there are fewer job opportunities.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: Herman post_id=451786 time=1653263555 user_id=1689
Quote from: Bonkerfist post_id=451477 time=1653201426 user_id=3358
Well thank Christ Albanese is willing to address climate change. Now let's see if he fulfils all of his promises and we don't have another lying muppet like Scomocchio governing the country. 
Good luck with him trying to unite a divided nation too. Standing in the centre and governing all Australians will be a massive task for sure. 
It won't be easy for Albanese
What the hell is this prog clown going to do about climate change besides take a bunch of planes to the next summit and promise Australian tax dollars to China. Australia, much like Canada is a bit player. The real action needs to be in the emerging nations who don't give a damn if the climate keeps changing or not.  Any Aussie politician that says he or she can stop the climate from changing is lying to you. What they will do is make life more expensive and make sure there are fewer job opportunities.
The climate always changes, that much we know. But reducing our carbon footprint and reducing population growth will hopefully make a difference in the foreseeable future. We've decimated massive portions of the planet, destroyed vulnerable ecosystems, driven both fauna and flora into extinction...the list goes on and on. I could post almost countless facts of cold hard truths that would go on deaf ears. Humankind is a plague and out numbers need to drop drastically.
			 
			
			
				As far as Albanese goes...time will tell. Politicians are mostly full of deceit and broken promises. Hopefully this new prime minister steps up and makes a positive difference, because Australia is lagging behind when it comes to cleaning up it's act. We are still the 14th worst carbon emitters    of fossil fuels and contribute 1% to global emissions. Given our low population in Australia...that's just shit behaviour.
			
			
			
				Enviro-cults are loopy....
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=451805 time=1653265346 user_id=1676
Enviro-cults are loopy....
Any cult is loopy. But yeah, some tree-huggers can be the worst!
			 
			
			
				What was the final seat count?
			
			
			
				Quote from: seoulbro post_id=452489 time=1653417407 user_id=114
What was the final seat count?
"Six seats remain in doubt as vote counting continues after Saturday's election.
With Labor needing two more seats to form a majority government, there's a lot riding on them. 
The Labor Party currently has 74 lower house seats and needs to get to 76 to govern without the help of crossbenchers.
Of the six seats that remain in doubt, Labor is projected to be ahead or considered likely to win in four of them. "
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-23/australian-election-latest-these-seats-still-in-doubt-labor/101090802
While Sunday, situation has not changed from above
			 
			
			
				Quote from: cc post_id=452584 time=1653429064 user_id=88
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=452489 time=1653417407 user_id=114
What was the final seat count?
"Six seats remain in doubt as vote counting continues after Saturday's election.
With Labor needing two more seats to form a majority government, there's a lot riding on them. 
The Labor Party currently has 74 lower house seats and needs to get to 76 to govern without the help of crossbenchers.
Of the six seats that remain in doubt, Labor is projected to be ahead or considered likely to win in four of them. "
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-23/australian-election-latest-these-seats-still-in-doubt-labor/101090802
While Sunday, situation has not changed from above
Good luck Australia. You guys will need it more than ever now.
			 
			
			
				Australians said climate change was their number one issue. As if any government can stop it.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=452870 time=1653500151 user_id=56
Australians said climate change was their number one issue. As if any government can stop it.
Australians already voted out a carbon tax. Do they want one now.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: Herman post_id=452994 time=1653521255 user_id=1689
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=452870 time=1653500151 user_id=56
Australians said climate change was their number one issue. As if any government can stop it.
Australians already voted out a carbon tax. Do they want one now.
Doesn't matter what citizens here want. 
They'll let us know....
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=452996 time=1653521346 user_id=1676
Quote from: Herman post_id=452994 time=1653521255 user_id=1689
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=452870 time=1653500151 user_id=56
Australians said climate change was their number one issue. As if any government can stop it.
Australians already voted out a carbon tax. Do they want one now.
Doesn't matter what citizens here want. 
They'll let us know....
Like Justine's Canada.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=452870 time=1653500151 user_id=56
Australians said climate change was their number one issue. As if any government can stop it.
They're supposedly trying to crack down on emissions. I hear a lot of talk about encouraging commuters to take public transport to work instead of their own vehicles, but not a lot concerning industrial processes, particularly the burning of fossil fuels to produce electricity.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: Bonkerfist post_id=453111 time=1653555797 user_id=3358
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=452870 time=1653500151 user_id=56
Australians said climate change was their number one issue. As if any government can stop it.
They're supposedly trying to crack down on emissions. I hear a lot of talk about encouraging commuters to take public transport to work instead of their own vehicles, but not a lot concerning industrial processes, particularly the burning of fossil fuels to produce electricity.
None of which will change the climate nor reduce reliability on reliable, environmentally sustainable natural gas and petroleum products.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: seoulbro post_id=453120 time=1653565198 user_id=114
Quote from: Bonkerfist post_id=453111 time=1653555797 user_id=3358
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=452870 time=1653500151 user_id=56
Australians said climate change was their number one issue. As if any government can stop it.
They're supposedly trying to crack down on emissions. I hear a lot of talk about encouraging commuters to take public transport to work instead of their own vehicles, but not a lot concerning industrial processes, particularly the burning of fossil fuels to produce electricity.
None of which will change the climate nor reduce reliability on reliable, environmentally sustainable natural gas and petroleum products.
Global emissions from humankind's ceaseless fucking contributes to global warming. Testosterone and a maternal clock primed by religious orders and social debauchery. Overpopulation being the byproduct that has reached plague proportions. There's irrefutable evidence to support these facts. Elementary demographic reasoning...
 :howdy:
			 
			
			
				There is no global warming.... sorry, but it's true. 
Climate science is a bunk agenda.
			
			
			
				Quote from: Bonkerfist post_id=453136 time=1653569712 user_id=3358
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=453120 time=1653565198 user_id=114
Quote from: Bonkerfist post_id=453111 time=1653555797 user_id=3358
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=452870 time=1653500151 user_id=56
Australians said climate change was their number one issue. As if any government can stop it.
They're supposedly trying to crack down on emissions. I hear a lot of talk about encouraging commuters to take public transport to work instead of their own vehicles, but not a lot concerning industrial processes, particularly the burning of fossil fuels to produce electricity.
None of which will change the climate nor reduce reliability on reliable, environmentally sustainable natural gas and petroleum products.
Global emissions from humankind's ceaseless fucking contributes to global warming. Testosterone and a maternal clock primed by religious orders and social debauchery. Overpopulation being the byproduct that has reached plague proportions. There's irrefutable evidence to support these facts. Elementary demographic reasoning...
 :howdy:
Most new emissions are in developing countries. How is punishing Aussies supposed to change that fact.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=453204 time=1653583551 user_id=2015
Quote from: Bonkerfist post_id=453136 time=1653569712 user_id=3358
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=453120 time=1653565198 user_id=114
Quote from: Bonkerfist post_id=453111 time=1653555797 user_id=3358
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=452870 time=1653500151 user_id=56
Australians said climate change was their number one issue. As if any government can stop it.
They're supposedly trying to crack down on emissions. I hear a lot of talk about encouraging commuters to take public transport to work instead of their own vehicles, but not a lot concerning industrial processes, particularly the burning of fossil fuels to produce electricity.
None of which will change the climate nor reduce reliability on reliable, environmentally sustainable natural gas and petroleum products.
Global emissions from humankind's ceaseless fucking contributes to global warming. Testosterone and a maternal clock primed by religious orders and social debauchery. Overpopulation being the byproduct that has reached plague proportions. There's irrefutable evidence to support these facts. Elementary demographic reasoning...
 :howdy:
Most new emissions are in developing countries. How is punishing Aussies supposed to change that fact.
It makes liberal upper income folks in Sydney and Melbourne feel smug. It don't do jack to stop or even slow climate change.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=453204 time=1653583551 user_id=2015
Quote from: Bonkerfist post_id=453136 time=1653569712 user_id=3358
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=453120 time=1653565198 user_id=114
Quote from: Bonkerfist post_id=453111 time=1653555797 user_id=3358
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=452870 time=1653500151 user_id=56
Australians said climate change was their number one issue. As if any government can stop it.
They're supposedly trying to crack down on emissions. I hear a lot of talk about encouraging commuters to take public transport to work instead of their own vehicles, but not a lot concerning industrial processes, particularly the burning of fossil fuels to produce electricity.
None of which will change the climate nor reduce reliability on reliable, environmentally sustainable natural gas and petroleum products.
Global emissions from humankind's ceaseless fucking contributes to global warming. Testosterone and a maternal clock primed by religious orders and social debauchery. Overpopulation being the byproduct that has reached plague proportions. There's irrefutable evidence to support these facts. Elementary demographic reasoning...
 :howdy:
Most new emissions are in developing countries. How is punishing Aussies supposed to change that fact.
It's re-educating Australians, not punishing them. Developing countries are shocking when it comes to emissions...where does one even start? I've seen enough filth in places like Africa, Malaysia and Indonesia that would make the average person sick. It's disgusting.
			 
			
			
				
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				Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=453405 time=1653646818 user_id=1676

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It sounds like Australia will be following Canada's example, though not likely as extreme as what we have done to our population. 
This image illustrates the utter futility of countries like Australia and Canada deliberately lowering lowering living standards in the name of fighting climate change.
			 
			
			
				Pretty much...
			
			
			
				Quote from: seoulbro post_id=453455 time=1653653844 user_id=114
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=453405 time=1653646818 user_id=1676

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It sounds like Australia will be following Canada's example, though not likely as extreme as what we have done to our population. 
This image illustrates the utter futility of countries like Australia and Canada deliberately lowering lowering living standards in the name of fighting climate change.
Only capitalists can't see the value. How ironic!  :laugh3:
			 
			
			
				So, Australia has gone to shit too?
Damn this world
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=453405 time=1653646818 user_id=1676

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In Brazoo we need potassium to make fertilizer 
And most potassium reserves are under the control of injuns these days
			 
			
			
				Quote from: Rancidmilko post_id=453576 time=1653663886 user_id=2853
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=453405 time=1653646818 user_id=1676

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In Brazoo we need potassium to make fertilizer 
And most potassium reserves are under the control of injuns these days
I've heard of potash in fertilizer.
			 
			
			
				Coal and gas plants drive fertiliser plants... 
Brace your yourselves if you don't understand...
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=453653 time=1653672165 user_id=1676
Coal and gas plants drive fertiliser plants... 
Brace your yourselves if you don't understand...
Canada exports a lot of potash to Asia for fertilizer production.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: Bonkerfist post_id=451796 time=1653264548 user_id=3358
The climate always changes, that much we know. But reducing our carbon footprint and reducing population growth will hopefully make a difference in the foreseeable future. We've decimated massive portions of the planet, destroyed vulnerable ecosystems, driven both fauna and flora into extinction...the list goes on and on. I could post almost countless facts of cold hard truths that would go on deaf ears. Humankind is a plague and out numbers need to drop drastically.
I agree that we need to stop destroying the environment and we should fix what we fucked up. I agree 8 billion people living the way we are is too much.
But let's be honest, has humanity destroyed earth so much when compared to some natural disasters? Like A meteor strike? Or an ice age? I think even the super-volcanoes have done more damage. Of course, if we continue doing what we're doing, we could do worse, especially with a nuke war. Depending on how much radioactive material we dump on the surface, we might almost sterilize it. But we haven't done that.
And apparently we won't, because the plan to dominate and control everyone is working just fine. 
When you say we're a plague, you're pretty much agreeing with the elite. 
There's a spiritual side to all of this. You might think things are out of control, with exception of the billionaires pulling the strings. But there's a lot more than that. 
The world is a pretty much fucked place if you try to see it as "home". How can home be that way? And we do see it as a home, although it's more of a school. When you see things under that optic, it makes more sense. And not any kind school, a school that almost a boot camp, almost an institution for those rebellious children who like to act up more than they should.
Unfortunately we're living in the most materialistic times this world has ever seen, so the most important concepts are being quickly lost, before they could really make a impact in the coming generation. But that's also part of the lesson. So, what happens when you follow "your heart"? What happens when you live like there's no soul, no afterlife, no punishment for bad deeds if man's justice doesn't catch you? What happens when you remove God from the equation? What happens when you put your fate on the hands of other men? What happens when you live only to find pleasure and physical satisfaction, when all you care for is comfort? 
One things is for sure, there's a factor that nobody takes in consideration and that's the innate beliefs. And we saw a lot of people with certain types of mentality born in the last decades but now, there's a new generation coming. You might try to mold and shape people thoughts, but certain tools you use to achieve that end up bringing unintended effects. When you try to remove the divine from people, you will only make it more prevalent. So the younger ones that are being groomed to accept atheism, will do the opposite, because they'll keep having experiences that defy all that emptiness they're being offered.
			 
			
			
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				Quote from: Rancidmilko post_id=453670 time=1653676100 user_id=2853
Quote from: Bonkerfist post_id=451796 time=1653264548 user_id=3358
The climate always changes, that much we know. But reducing our carbon footprint and reducing population growth will hopefully make a difference in the foreseeable future. We've decimated massive portions of the planet, destroyed vulnerable ecosystems, driven both fauna and flora into extinction...the list goes on and on. I could post almost countless facts of cold hard truths that would go on deaf ears. Humankind is a plague and out numbers need to drop drastically.
I agree that we need to stop destroying the environment and we should fix what we fucked up. I agree 8 billion people living the way we are is too much.
But let's be honest, has humanity destroyed earth so much when compared to some natural disasters? Like A meteor strike? Or an ice age? I think even the super-volcanoes have done more damage. Of course, if we continue doing what we're doing, we could do worse, especially with a nuke war. Depending on how much radioactive material we dump on the surface, we might almost sterilize it. But we haven't done that.
And apparently we won't, because the plan to dominate and control everyone is working just fine. 
When you say we're a plague, you're pretty much agreeing with the elite. 
There's a spiritual side to all of this. You might think things are out of control, with exception of the billionaires pulling the strings. But there's a lot more than that. 
The world is a pretty much fucked place if you try to see it as "home". How can home be that way? And we do see it as a home, although it's more of a school. When you see things under that optic, it makes more sense. And not any kind school, a school that almost a boot camp, almost an institution for those rebellious children who like to act up more than they should.
Unfortunately we're living in the most materialistic times this world has ever seen, so the most important concepts are being quickly lost, before they could really make a impact in the coming generation. But that's also part of the lesson. So, what happens when you follow "your heart"? What happens when you live like there's no soul, no afterlife, no punishment for bad deeds if man's justice doesn't catch you? What happens when you remove God from the equation? What happens when you put your fate on the hands of other men? What happens when you live only to find pleasure and physical satisfaction, when all you care for is comfort? 
One things is for sure, there's a factor that nobody takes in consideration and that's the innate beliefs. And we saw a lot of people with certain types of mentality born in the last decades but now, there's a new generation coming. You might try to mold and shape people thoughts, but certain tools you use to achieve that end up bringing unintended effects. When you try to remove the divine from people, you will only make it more prevalent. So the younger ones that are being groomed to accept atheism, will do the opposite, because they'll keep having experiences that defy all that emptiness they're being offered.
Beautiful words... and not in your native.
			 
			
			
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The climate always changes, that much we know. But reducing our carbon footprint and reducing population growth will hopefully make a difference in the foreseeable future. We've decimated massive portions of the planet, destroyed vulnerable ecosystems, driven both fauna and flora into extinction...the list goes on and on. I could post almost countless facts of cold hard truths that would go on deaf ears. Humankind is a plague and out numbers need to drop drastically.
I agree that we need to stop destroying the environment and we should fix what we fucked up. I agree 8 billion people living the way we are is too much.
But let's be honest, has humanity destroyed earth so much when compared to some natural disasters? Like A meteor strike? Or an ice age? I think even the super-volcanoes have done more damage. Of course, if we continue doing what we're doing, we could do worse, especially with a nuke war. Depending on how much radioactive material we dump on the surface, we might almost sterilize it. But we haven't done that.
And apparently we won't, because the plan to dominate and control everyone is working just fine. 
When you say we're a plague, you're pretty much agreeing with the elite. 
There's a spiritual side to all of this. You might think things are out of control, with exception of the billionaires pulling the strings. But there's a lot more than that. 
The world is a pretty much fucked place if you try to see it as "home". How can home be that way? And we do see it as a home, although it's more of a school. When you see things under that optic, it makes more sense. And not any kind school, a school that almost a boot camp, almost an institution for those rebellious children who like to act up more than they should.
Unfortunately we're living in the most materialistic times this world has ever seen, so the most important concepts are being quickly lost, before they could really make a impact in the coming generation. But that's also part of the lesson. So, what happens when you follow "your heart"? What happens when you live like there's no soul, no afterlife, no punishment for bad deeds if man's justice doesn't catch you? What happens when you remove God from the equation? What happens when you put your fate on the hands of other men? What happens when you live only to find pleasure and physical satisfaction, when all you care for is comfort? 
One things is for sure, there's a factor that nobody takes in consideration and that's the innate beliefs. And we saw a lot of people with certain types of mentality born in the last decades but now, there's a new generation coming. You might try to mold and shape people thoughts, but certain tools you use to achieve that end up bringing unintended effects. When you try to remove the divine from people, you will only make it more prevalent. So the younger ones that are being groomed to accept atheism, will do the opposite, because they'll keep having experiences that defy all that emptiness they're being offered.
Beautiful words... and not in your native.
Thanks mang
			 
			
			
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The climate always changes, that much we know. But reducing our carbon footprint and reducing population growth will hopefully make a difference in the foreseeable future. We've decimated massive portions of the planet, destroyed vulnerable ecosystems, driven both fauna and flora into extinction...the list goes on and on. I could post almost countless facts of cold hard truths that would go on deaf ears. Humankind is a plague and out numbers need to drop drastically.
I agree that we need to stop destroying the environment and we should fix what we fucked up. I agree 8 billion people living the way we are is too much.
But let's be honest, has humanity destroyed earth so much when compared to some natural disasters? Like A meteor strike? Or an ice age? I think even the super-volcanoes have done more damage. Of course, if we continue doing what we're doing, we could do worse, especially with a nuke war. Depending on how much radioactive material we dump on the surface, we might almost sterilize it. But we haven't done that.
And apparently we won't, because the plan to dominate and control everyone is working just fine. 
When you say we're a plague, you're pretty much agreeing with the elite. 
There's a spiritual side to all of this. You might think things are out of control, with exception of the billionaires pulling the strings. But there's a lot more than that. 
The world is a pretty much fucked place if you try to see it as "home". How can home be that way? And we do see it as a home, although it's more of a school. When you see things under that optic, it makes more sense. And not any kind school, a school that almost a boot camp, almost an institution for those rebellious children who like to act up more than they should.
Unfortunately we're living in the most materialistic times this world has ever seen, so the most important concepts are being quickly lost, before they could really make a impact in the coming generation. But that's also part of the lesson. So, what happens when you follow "your heart"? What happens when you live like there's no soul, no afterlife, no punishment for bad deeds if man's justice doesn't catch you? What happens when you remove God from the equation? What happens when you put your fate on the hands of other men? What happens when you live only to find pleasure and physical satisfaction, when all you care for is comfort? 
One things is for sure, there's a factor that nobody takes in consideration and that's the innate beliefs. And we saw a lot of people with certain types of mentality born in the last decades but now, there's a new generation coming. You might try to mold and shape people thoughts, but certain tools you use to achieve that end up bringing unintended effects. When you try to remove the divine from people, you will only make it more prevalent. So the younger ones that are being groomed to accept atheism, will do the opposite, because they'll keep having experiences that defy all that emptiness they're being offered.
Beautiful words... and not in your native.
Thanks mang
I like your new avatar Rancidmilko.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: Bonkerfist post_id=451796 time=1653264548 user_id=3358
The climate always changes, that much we know. But reducing our carbon footprint and reducing population growth will hopefully make a difference in the foreseeable future. We've decimated massive portions of the planet, destroyed vulnerable ecosystems, driven both fauna and flora into extinction...the list goes on and on. I could post almost countless facts of cold hard truths that would go on deaf ears. Humankind is a plague and out numbers need to drop drastically.
I agree that we need to stop destroying the environment and we should fix what we fucked up. I agree 8 billion people living the way we are is too much.
But let's be honest, has humanity destroyed earth so much when compared to some natural disasters? Like A meteor strike? Or an ice age? I think even the super-volcanoes have done more damage. Of course, if we continue doing what we're doing, we could do worse, especially with a nuke war. Depending on how much radioactive material we dump on the surface, we might almost sterilize it. But we haven't done that.
And apparently we won't, because the plan to dominate and control everyone is working just fine. 
When you say we're a plague, you're pretty much agreeing with the elite. 
There's a spiritual side to all of this. You might think things are out of control, with exception of the billionaires pulling the strings. But there's a lot more than that. 
The world is a pretty much fucked place if you try to see it as "home". How can home be that way? And we do see it as a home, although it's more of a school. When you see things under that optic, it makes more sense. And not any kind school, a school that almost a boot camp, almost an institution for those rebellious children who like to act up more than they should.
Unfortunately we're living in the most materialistic times this world has ever seen, so the most important concepts are being quickly lost, before they could really make a impact in the coming generation. But that's also part of the lesson. So, what happens when you follow "your heart"? What happens when you live like there's no soul, no afterlife, no punishment for bad deeds if man's justice doesn't catch you? What happens when you remove God from the equation? What happens when you put your fate on the hands of other men? What happens when you live only to find pleasure and physical satisfaction, when all you care for is comfort? 
One things is for sure, there's a factor that nobody takes in consideration and that's the innate beliefs. And we saw a lot of people with certain types of mentality born in the last decades but now, there's a new generation coming. You might try to mold and shape people thoughts, but certain tools you use to achieve that end up bringing unintended effects. When you try to remove the divine from people, you will only make it more prevalent. So the younger ones that are being groomed to accept atheism, will do the opposite, because they'll keep having experiences that defy all that emptiness they're being offered.
Well said. I would love to see a more sustainable world though. As I've mentioned before, I could do without cheap tech imports if it means less Aussie exports offshore. Most of our own Aussie produce is inflated in cost due to a better price achieved elsewhere.
All my wife and I do is try to lessen our carbon footprint wherever possible. Converting to gas and uninstalling solar. Growing our own vegetables and herbs. Recycling our water and collecting rainwater. Recycling our kitchen wastes. Limited use of vehicles etc.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: Bonkerfist post_id=453798 time=1653717743 user_id=3358
 I would love to see a more sustainable world though. As I've mentioned before, I could do without cheap tech imports if it means less Aussie exports offshore. Most of our own Aussie produce is inflated in cost due to a better price achieved elsewhere.
All my wife and I do is try to lessen our carbon footprint wherever possible. Converting to gas and uninstalling solar. Growing our own vegetables and herbs. Recycling our water and collecting rainwater. Recycling our kitchen wastes. Limited use of vehicles etc.
The word sustainable is used as a buzzword in greenspeak. WInd, solar, electric cars have bigger enviro footprints than LNG or muclear. They don't reduce the usage of fossils either.
It's fine, that you have the resources to do what you do. I limit the amount of pollution I produce as much as possible too. But, in a world with a popultion approaching eight billion it's symbolism for those with the means to do it. 
Do you know what the best way to reduce pollution is? It's not wind, solar, ending plastic bags in developed countries or carbon pricing. It's lifitng people out of poverty in the developed world. When people become more affuent and better educated they have smaller families and don't do things like clear forests for firewood for cooking and heating.
			 
			
			
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 I would love to see a more sustainable world though. As I've mentioned before, I could do without cheap tech imports if it means less Aussie exports offshore. Most of our own Aussie produce is inflated in cost due to a better price achieved elsewhere.
All my wife and I do is try to lessen our carbon footprint wherever possible. Converting to gas and uninstalling solar. Growing our own vegetables and herbs. Recycling our water and collecting rainwater. Recycling our kitchen wastes. Limited use of vehicles etc.
The word sustainable is used as a buzzword in greenspeak. WInd, solar, electric cars have bigger enviro footprints than LNG or muclear. They don't reduce the usage of fossils either.
It's fine, that you have the resources to do what you do. I limit the amount of pollution I produce as much as possible too. But, in a world with a popultion approaching eight billion it's symbolism for those with the means to do it. 
Do you know what the best way to reduce pollution is? It's not wind, solar, ending plastic bags in developed countries or carbon pricing. It's lifitng people out of poverty in the developed world. When people become more affuent and better educated they have smaller families and don't do things like clear forests for firewood for cooking and heating.
The labour government here  in Australia just put a ban on packets today...so that's a step in the right direction. 
Trying to provide work to lift people out of poverty as such in developed worlds can be a hard task. So many are just too lazy, while others are too the drug-fucked or alcohol dependent. 
I remember in South Africa that a percentage of your earnings went into your unemployment fund. If you were out of work, you would use that unemployment fund while looking for work. But once depleted, that was that and you were out on the street.
			 
			
			
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The labour government here  in Australia just put a ban on packets today...so that's a step in the right direction. 
Even after a search, I still can't find what packets are?
			 
			
			
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Quote from: Bonkerfist post_id=454849 time=1654067698 user_id=3358
The labour government here  in Australia just put a ban on packets today...so that's a step in the right direction. 
Even after a search, I still can't find what packets are?
Plastic shopping bags. Lol
			 
			
			
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Quote from: seoulbro post_id=454961 time=1654100597 user_id=114
Quote from: Bonkerfist post_id=454849 time=1654067698 user_id=3358
The labour government here  in Australia just put a ban on packets today...so that's a step in the right direction. 
Even after a search, I still can't find what packets are?
Plastic shopping bags. Lol
That is so stupid..
Stores here stopped using plastic bags..
They are not single use, I used them for garbage and storing things..
So now, instead of using plastic grocery bags I have to buy plastic bags..
It does nothing for the environment, but it takes money away from families.......so dumb.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: Bonkerfist post_id=455090 time=1654117875 user_id=3358
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=454961 time=1654100597 user_id=114
Quote from: Bonkerfist post_id=454849 time=1654067698 user_id=3358
The labour government here  in Australia just put a ban on packets today...so that's a step in the right direction. 
Even after a search, I still can't find what packets are?
Plastic shopping bags. Lol
That is so stupid..
Stores here stopped using plastic bags..
They are not single use, I used them for garbage and storing things..
So now, instead of using plastic grocery bags I have to buy plastic bags..
It does nothing for the environment, but it takes money away from families.......so dumb.
Most supermarkets already stopped using single use plastic bags, but gave the option of purchasing biodegradable multi-use bags or fabric bags. Fast-food joints and stores still offered plastic bags. Companies have to make the change to biodegradable plastics, which is good for the environment and the right step ahead. We need to start somewhere to make this work for future generations. Reducing emissions effectively will be a major task for sure.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: Bonkerfist post_id=455329 time=1654154815 user_id=3358
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=455098 time=1654120315 user_id=3254
Quote from: Bonkerfist post_id=455090 time=1654117875 user_id=3358
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=454961 time=1654100597 user_id=114
Quote from: Bonkerfist post_id=454849 time=1654067698 user_id=3358
The labour government here  in Australia just put a ban on packets today...so that's a step in the right direction. 
Even after a search, I still can't find what packets are?
Plastic shopping bags. Lol
That is so stupid..
Stores here stopped using plastic bags..
They are not single use, I used them for garbage and storing things..
So now, instead of using plastic grocery bags I have to buy plastic bags..
It does nothing for the environment, but it takes money away from families.......so dumb.
Most supermarkets already stopped using single use plastic bags, but gave the option of purchasing biodegradable multi-use bags or fabric bags. Fast-food joints and stores still offered plastic bags. Companies have to make the change to biodegradable plastics, which is good for the environment and the right step ahead. We need to start somewhere to make this work for future generations. Reducing emissions effectively will be a major task for sure.
No, they are in fact worse..
Plastic grocery bags in developed countries made sense economically and environmentally..
			 
			
			
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Quote from: seoulbro post_id=454961 time=1654100597 user_id=114
Even after a search, I still can't find what packets are?
Plastic shopping bags. Lol
That is so stupid..
Stores here stopped using plastic bags..
They are not single use, I used them for garbage and storing things..
So now, instead of using plastic grocery bags I have to buy plastic bags..
It does nothing for the environment, but it takes money away from families.......so dumb.
Most supermarkets already stopped using single use plastic bags, but gave the option of purchasing biodegradable multi-use bags or fabric bags. Fast-food joints and stores still offered plastic bags. Companies have to make the change to biodegradable plastics, which is good for the environment and the right step ahead. We need to start somewhere to make this work for future generations. Reducing emissions effectively will be a major task for sure.
No, they are in fact worse..
Plastic grocery bags in developed countries made sense economically and environmentally..
Not to mention they require more energy, raw materials and produce more pollution to produce.
			 
			
			
				I work for a multi national corporation and most of our products are made in asia where no effective pollution controls exist. Even if you believe in the hoaxology, nothing is being done about it other than making 1st world nations suffer.
			
			
			
				Quote from: Lokmar post_id=455749 time=1654229436 user_id=3351
I work for a multi national corporation and most of our products are made in asia where no effective pollution controls exist. Even if you believe in the hoaxology, nothing is being done about it other than making 1st world nations suffer.
I agree Lokmar..
Despite all our sacrifices in Canada, we haven't stopped the climate from changing at all.
			 
			
			
				It's like punching a tiny hole in the Western nation's jerry cans (fuel/gas/petrol) but not in the dissenting nations'.... 
The West is eventually empty, the East has a stockpile, and if you believe in the environmentalism hoax.... there is even more disaster. 
But the West says it has to do with a largely symbolic act to gain nothing except collapse, death, and destruction of the West. 
So this has nothing to do with the environment and never has. It's about control and power between factions seeking to either secure global hegemony or thwart it.
			
			
			
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Quote from: Fashionista post_id=455098 time=1654120315 user_id=3254
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Quote from: seoulbro post_id=454961 time=1654100597 user_id=114
Even after a search, I still can't find what packets are?
Plastic shopping bags. Lol
That is so stupid..
Stores here stopped using plastic bags..
They are not single use, I used them for garbage and storing things..
So now, instead of using plastic grocery bags I have to buy plastic bags..
It does nothing for the environment, but it takes money away from families.......so dumb.
Most supermarkets already stopped using single use plastic bags, but gave the option of purchasing biodegradable multi-use bags or fabric bags. Fast-food joints and stores still offered plastic bags. Companies have to make the change to biodegradable plastics, which is good for the environment and the right step ahead. We need to start somewhere to make this work for future generations. Reducing emissions effectively will be a major task for sure.
No, they are in fact worse..
Plastic grocery bags in developed countries made sense economically and environmentally..
Depends on the degradable "plastics". My wife's company is using cellulose derived from corn. The waxy outer layer on the kernel.
PS: it's the reason why corn can be present in turds from people that don't masticate their food appropriately. Lol
			 
			
			
				Quote from: Bonkerfist post_id=455833 time=1654238043 user_id=3358
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=455383 time=1654179104 user_id=3254
Quote from: Bonkerfist post_id=455329 time=1654154815 user_id=3358
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=455098 time=1654120315 user_id=3254
Quote from: Bonkerfist post_id=455090 time=1654117875 user_id=3358
Plastic shopping bags. Lol
That is so stupid..
Stores here stopped using plastic bags..
They are not single use, I used them for garbage and storing things..
So now, instead of using plastic grocery bags I have to buy plastic bags..
It does nothing for the environment, but it takes money away from families.......so dumb.
Most supermarkets already stopped using single use plastic bags, but gave the option of purchasing biodegradable multi-use bags or fabric bags. Fast-food joints and stores still offered plastic bags. Companies have to make the change to biodegradable plastics, which is good for the environment and the right step ahead. We need to start somewhere to make this work for future generations. Reducing emissions effectively will be a major task for sure.
No, they are in fact worse..
Plastic grocery bags in developed countries made sense economically and environmentally..
Depends on the degradable "plastics". My wife's company is using cellulose derived from corn. The waxy outer layer on the kernel.
PS: it's the reason why corn can be present in turds from people that don't masticate their food appropriately. Lol
My doctor recommended I get more cellulose derived from corn in my diet.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: Fashionista post_id=455383 time=1654179104 user_id=3254
Quote from: Bonkerfist post_id=455329 time=1654154815 user_id=3358
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=455098 time=1654120315 user_id=3254
That is so stupid..
Stores here stopped using plastic bags..
They are not single use, I used them for garbage and storing things..
So now, instead of using plastic grocery bags I have to buy plastic bags..
It does nothing for the environment, but it takes money away from families.......so dumb.
Most supermarkets already stopped using single use plastic bags, but gave the option of purchasing biodegradable multi-use bags or fabric bags. Fast-food joints and stores still offered plastic bags. Companies have to make the change to biodegradable plastics, which is good for the environment and the right step ahead. We need to start somewhere to make this work for future generations. Reducing emissions effectively will be a major task for sure.
No, they are in fact worse..
Plastic grocery bags in developed countries made sense economically and environmentally..
Depends on the degradable "plastics". My wife's company is using cellulose derived from corn. The waxy outer layer on the kernel.
PS: it's the reason why corn can be present in turds from people that don't masticate their food appropriately. Lol
My doctor recommended I get more cellulose derived from corn in my diet.
Lol...that's a corny recommendation. Is he a quack?  :laugh3:
			 
			
			
				You two guys are sick.
			
			
			
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				Lovely article here...
https://anthonyalbanese.com.au/my-plan/protecting-our-unique-environment

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Lovely article here...
https://anthonyalbanese.com.au/my-plan/protecting-our-unique-environment

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Poppycock. Labour and Green Party supporters caused the forest fires. 
The Albanese government's environmental policy means Aussies pay and corporations play.
			 
			
			
				Colombia's supreme court tried to house arrest the president.
The persecution against conservatives in America Latrina is endless
			
			
			
				Quote from: Rancidmilko post_id=456934 time=1654461336 user_id=2853
Colombia's supreme court tried to house arrest the president.
The persecution against conservatives in America Latrina is endless
Not a word of this was on our state broadcaster.
			 
			
			
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Lovely article here...
https://anthonyalbanese.com.au/my-plan/protecting-our-unique-environment

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Poppycock. Labour and Green Party supporters caused the forest fires. 
The Albanese government's environmental policy means Aussies pay and corporations play.
Honestly it's hard to tell if things are going in the right direction sometimes or it's just a big scam. You could be right, but at least I personally try do good for the planet.
It shits me to tears, but many bush fires are sparked off by juvenile delinquents or smokers flicking their cigarettes into the bush.
I was very close to the fires, and the ash falling down for kilometres looks like snow...that's how bad it was. A creek separated me from the fire, but my neighbours caravan was a goner. The embers blew across the creek and ignited his backyard.
			 
			
			
				Also the build up of fuel on the forest floor..
We have had forest fires caused by that too.
			
			
			
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Lovely article here...
https://anthonyalbanese.com.au/my-plan/protecting-our-unique-environment

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Poppycock. Labour and Green Party supporters caused the forest fires. 
The Albanese government's environmental policy means Aussies pay and corporations play.
Honestly it's hard to tell if things are going in the right direction sometimes or it's just a big scam. You could be right, but at least I personally try do good for the planet.
It shits me to tears, but many bush fires are sparked off by juvenile delinquents or smokers flicking their cigarettes into the bush.
I was very close to the fires, and the ash falling down for kilometres looks like snow...that's how bad it was. A creek separated me from the fire, but my neighbours caravan was a goner. The embers blew across the creek and ignited his backyard.
The greenies influenced Victoria's government nearly two decades ago.... they wanted all bush tracks shut down for recreational campers because we were supposedly "ruining" the environment by going down remote tracks and pitching tents and a fire. 
So what did the progressive Victorian government do? They caved and made it illegal to camp on public property without a permit.... and they made little tiny campsites with drop toilets all cramped up against each other full of refuse like shitty toilet paper and plastics melted into every inch of these tiny plots....and at a steep price.... roughly 30-35 bucks per night when you'd get a much cleaner camp at a caravan park or winter showgrounds. 
All the places I once went have large native trees intentionally chopped down with newly excavated ditches to prevent even a Jeep rock-climber from getting over them. 
But get this.... these were the same fucking tracks which our CFA (volunteer bush fire service) needed to get down.... and suddenly they couldn't. So the canopy floor builds and builds, no campers....no back burning..... no fire fighting when the canopy floor erupts... 
Talk about stupid! 
To save the environment we have to prevent ourselves from accessing it, even to save the environment. 
I hope greenies get rapid colon cancer.... so they can return to the environment asap.
			 
			
			
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Lovely article here...
https://anthonyalbanese.com.au/my-plan/protecting-our-unique-environment

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Poppycock. Labour and Green Party supporters caused the forest fires. 
The Albanese government's environmental policy means Aussies pay and corporations play.
Honestly it's hard to tell if things are going in the right direction sometimes or it's just a big scam. You could be right, but at least I personally try do good for the planet.
It shits me to tears, but many bush fires are sparked off by juvenile delinquents or smokers flicking their cigarettes into the bush.
I was very close to the fires, and the ash falling down for kilometres looks like snow...that's how bad it was. A creek separated me from the fire, but my neighbours caravan was a goner. The embers blew across the creek and ignited his backyard.
The greenies influenced Victoria's government nearly two decades ago.... they wanted all bush tracks shut down for recreational campers because we were supposedly "ruining" the environment by going down remote tracks and pitching tents and a fire. 
So what did the progressive Victorian government do? They caved and made it illegal to camp on public property without a permit.... and they made little tiny campsites with drop toilets all cramped up against each other full of refuse like shitty toilet paper and plastics melted into every inch of these tiny plots....and at a steep price.... roughly 30-35 bucks per night when you'd get a much cleaner camp at a caravan park or winter showgrounds. 
All the places I once went have large native trees intentionally chopped down with newly excavated ditches to prevent even a Jeep rock-climber from getting over them. 
But get this.... these were the same fucking tracks which our CFA (volunteer bush fire service) needed to get down.... and suddenly they couldn't. So the canopy floor builds and builds, no campers....no back burning..... no fire fighting when the canopy floor erupts... 
Talk about stupid! 
To save the environment we have to prevent ourselves from accessing it, even to save the environment. 
I hope greenies get rapid colon cancer.... so they can return to the environment asap.
I read bits about this.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=457162 time=1654513632 user_id=1676
Quote from: Bonkerfist post_id=457141 time=1654496829 user_id=3358
Honestly it's hard to tell if things are going in the right direction sometimes or it's just a big scam. You could be right, but at least I personally try do good for the planet.
It shits me to tears, but many bush fires are sparked off by juvenile delinquents or smokers flicking their cigarettes into the bush.
I was very close to the fires, and the ash falling down for kilometres looks like snow...that's how bad it was. A creek separated me from the fire, but my neighbours caravan was a goner. The embers blew across the creek and ignited his backyard.
The greenies influenced Victoria's government nearly two decades ago.... they wanted all bush tracks shut down for recreational campers because we were supposedly "ruining" the environment by going down remote tracks and pitching tents and a fire. 
So what did the progressive Victorian government do? They caved and made it illegal to camp on public property without a permit.... and they made little tiny campsites with drop toilets all cramped up against each other full of refuse like shitty toilet paper and plastics melted into every inch of these tiny plots....and at a steep price.... roughly 30-35 bucks per night when you'd get a much cleaner camp at a caravan park or winter showgrounds. 
All the places I once went have large native trees intentionally chopped down with newly excavated ditches to prevent even a Jeep rock-climber from getting over them. 
But get this.... these were the same fucking tracks which our CFA (volunteer bush fire service) needed to get down.... and suddenly they couldn't. So the canopy floor builds and builds, no campers....no back burning..... no fire fighting when the canopy floor erupts... 
Talk about stupid! 
To save the environment we have to prevent ourselves from accessing it, even to save the environment. 
I hope greenies get rapid colon cancer.... so they can return to the environment asap.
In Western Australia the government was right onto maintaining the bush tracks and back-burning, or at least the southern part. Here in NSW, every time they start a back-burn, they seem to read the weather wrong and the fires get out of control. Different councils and different states seem to oppose one another. But that's government and politicians for you.
PS: I don't want rapid colon cancer ya bastard!!! 
 :shock: