Are any posters Irish or part Irish?
What does the day mean to you? 
Is it only an excuse to drink or is there more to the day for you?
			
			
			
				Its honouring their heritage. Connecting them to the mother continent.
			
			
			
				Many of you "colonials" like to track down your roots... Theres nothing quite like it in the "original" continent.
			
			
			
				It's an excuse to party and nothing wrong with that either.
			
			
			
				Koreans are like the Irish of the East.
			
			
			
				I don't like Guinness very much. It's just too heavy. Give me a tasty lager on tap anyday. Harp is the best Irish beer I have tried.
			
			
			
				A few years ago I went to O'Byrne's pub on Whyte Ave for St. Paddy's. Packed to the max. Had some Irish stew and it wasn't half bad.
			
			
			
				If you decide to wear some green today in celebration of St. Patrick's Day, I hope it safe and enjoyable for you.
 :)
			
			
			
				Quote from: "seoulbro"
I don't like Guinness very much. It's just too heavy. Give me a tasty lager on tap anyday. Harp is the best Irish beer I have tried.
I much prefer Smithwick's.
			 
			
			
				Happy St Patric's day 
No green here, but pinch away :)
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Blue"
Happy St Patric's day 
No green here, but pinch away :)
Hello Blue, I hope it was a good day for you.
			 
			
			
				While I was out today, I saw a guy wearing a shirt that read "sex, drugs and leprechauns"!! :o  :lol:
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
While I was out today, I saw a guy wearing a shirt that read "sex, drugs and leprechauns"!! :o  :lol:
That guy must have been an idiot. Those freaking Leprechauns are bad people.
Would you party with this? :lol: 

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				EEEEEK!! :o 
I always thought leprechauns looked like this.

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Pink hearts, yellow moons, green clovers.
			 
			
			
				Yellow moon.. ;)
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Yellow moon.. ;)
Wow, two in one day. UR on a roll today eh Odinson. :lol:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
EEEEEK!! :o 
I always thought leprechauns looked like this.

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Pink hearts, yellow moons, green clovers.
As a kid I used to only eat the pink hearts, yellow moons and green clovers and leave that awful cereal in the bowl. That shit tasted like kibble. :o
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
EEEEEK!! :o 
I always thought leprechauns looked like this.

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Pink hearts, yellow moons, green clovers.
As a kid I used to only eat the pink hearts, yellow moons and green clovers and leave that awful cereal in the bowl. That shit tasted like kibble. :o
If you can believe it, I have never tried it. However, I am not into cereal, especially candy ones.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
EEEEEK!! :o 
I always thought leprechauns looked like this.

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Pink hearts, yellow moons, green clovers.
As a kid I used to only eat the pink hearts, yellow moons and green clovers and leave that awful cereal in the bowl. That shit tasted like kibble. :o
If you can believe it, I have never tried it. However, I am not into cereal, especially candy ones.
Growing up in my house we always had lots of that crap around. My mom worked and mornings were hectic so cereal was the quickest and easiest thing to grab. My sister and brother liked the surgery ones so as a majority rule we always had them around. I think all that sugary breakfast cereal I ate was a major contributor to why by the 8th grade I weighed over 200lbs.
Nowadays as an adult who has learned a thing or two, in my house that crap is forbidden. Any cereal in my house consists of either plain rice based cereal, whole grains cereals, or hot oatmeal.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Yellow moon.. ;)
Wow, two in one day. UR on a roll today eh Odinson. :lol:
Yea well life is good.
			 
			
			
				A parade is a parade. 
Now She. Have you ever been to a Pride Parade?
			
			
			
				I have no idea how I ended up replying in this thread.  DOH!
			
			
			
				Do you go to physiotherapy?
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Real Woman"
A parade is a parade. 
Now She. Have you ever been to a Pride Parade?
Pride isn't a parade, it's live porn that everyone is forced to watch. Rent a fucking hall for their nudity and simulated sex acts. Sick bastards.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Growing up in my house we always had lots of that crap around. My mom worked and mornings were hectic so cereal was the quickest and easiest thing to grab. My sister and brother liked the surgery ones so as a majority rule we always had them around. I think all that sugary breakfast cereal I ate was a major contributor to why by the 8th grade I weighed over 200lbs.
Nowadays as an adult who has learned a thing or two, in my house that crap is forbidden. Any cereal in my house consists of either plain rice based cereal, whole grains cereals, or hot oatmeal.
It's a cultural thing I realize and I understand how practical it is. You probably didn't eat a lot congee for breakfast like I did.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Real Woman"
A parade is a parade. 
Now She. Have you ever been to a Pride Parade?
Pride isn't a parade, it's live porn that everyone is forced to watch. Rent a fucking hall for their nudity and simulated sex acts. Sick bastards.
Its like when "artists" throw shit on people and call it art... 
It suddenly becomes acceptable.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Real Woman"
A parade is a parade. 
Now She. Have you ever been to a Pride Parade?
Pride isn't a parade, it's live porn that everyone is forced to watch. Rent a fucking hall for their nudity and simulated sex acts. Sick bastards.
Its like when "artists" throw shit on people and call it art... 
It suddenly becomes acceptable.
The only calls I would be making is to the cops if they did that to me.
			 
			
			
				So have you been to a Pride parade or not because given your comments, I'm better on not....
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Real Woman"
So have you been to a Pride parade or not because given your comments, I'm better on not....
I have been in the vicinity, but other than a 5 minute look, no I haven't been to one.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Do you go to physiotherapy?
I've been.  Just massage therapy lately.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
Growing up in my house we always had lots of that crap around. My mom worked and mornings were hectic so cereal was the quickest and easiest thing to grab. My sister and brother liked the surgery ones so as a majority rule we always had them around. I think all that sugary breakfast cereal I ate was a major contributor to why by the 8th grade I weighed over 200lbs.
Nowadays as an adult who has learned a thing or two, in my house that crap is forbidden. Any cereal in my house consists of either plain rice based cereal, whole grains cereals, or hot oatmeal.
It's a cultural thing I realize and I understand how practical it is. You probably didn't eat a lot congee for breakfast like I did.
No I didn't eat any of that. The few times I've seen it it reminds me a lot of cream of wheat, which of course reminds me of sperm which of course I also did not eat as a kid.   :lol:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Pride isn't a parade, it's live porn that everyone is forced to watch. Rent a fucking hall for their nudity and simulated sex acts. Sick bastards.
Its like when "artists" throw shit on people and call it art... 
It suddenly becomes acceptable.
The only calls I would be making is to the cops if they did that to me.
The point is that when you call the regular "flashing" gay pride parade... It suddenly becomes acceptable.
And I wouldnt call the cops if some1 throws shit on me.. I would be really upset for awhile if I didnt turn the "artist" into a mess right on the scene.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Real Woman"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Do you go to physiotherapy?
I've been.  Just massage therapy lately.
Helps with the symptoms.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
No I didn't eat any of that. The few times I've seen it it reminds me a lot of cream of wheat, which of course reminds me of sperm which of course I also did not eat as a kid.   :lol:
I just have to translate this one for my mommy. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
			 
			
			
				Well when you got tigers penis booze, sperm looking soup aint that big of a stretch.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Well when you got tigers penis booze, sperm looking soup aint that big of a stretch.
Hardly an analogy Odinson. Tiger dicks are not exactly a staple in China like congee is.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Well when you got tigers penis booze, sperm looking soup aint that big of a stretch.
Hardly an analogy Odinson. Tiger dicks are not exactly a staple in China like congee is.
Yea.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Real Woman"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Do you go to physiotherapy?
I've been.  Just massage therapy lately.
Helps with the symptoms.
Massage sure does.  I do a lot of stretching and such at home.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Real Woman"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Real Woman"
I've been.  Just massage therapy lately.
Helps with the symptoms.
Massage sure does.  I do a lot of stretching and such at home.
Massage is like chicken soup; good for whatever ails ya.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Real Woman"
A parade is a parade. 
Now She. Have you ever been to a Pride Parade?
Pride isn't a parade, it's live porn that everyone is forced to watch. Rent a fucking hall for their nudity and simulated sex acts. Sick bastards.
what she^^^^^^^ said.....why any self respecting normal person would subject themselves to watching these silly fucktards or why any city would allow them to do their shit in public completely baffles me.....and they wonder why normal people are getting fed up with this gay industry bullshit......who gives a shit if they are queer......just keep it to yourself and all will be well...keep shoving it in my face and i'll react badly just like i would with any other sick fucking deviant.....
			 
			
			
				This shouldnt even be an issue..
			
			
			
				If you aren't at the parade the no one is shoving it in your face now are they? 
You haven't been to a Pride parade either have you?
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Real Woman"
A parade is a parade. 
Now She. Have you ever been to a Pride Parade?
Pride isn't a parade, it's live porn that everyone is forced to watch. Rent a fucking hall for their nudity and simulated sex acts. Sick bastards.
what she^^^^^^^ said.....why any self respecting normal person would subject themselves to watching these silly fucktards or why any city would allow them to do their shit in public completely baffles me.....and they wonder why normal people are getting fed up with this gay industry bullshit......who gives a shit if they are queer......just keep it to yourself and all will be well...keep shoving it in my face and i'll react badly just like i would with any other sick fucking deviant.....
If someone watched porn with children they would be arrested. Why don't the same standards apply to the sick old fucks at the pride parades?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Pride isn't a parade, it's live porn that everyone is forced to watch. Rent a fucking hall for their nudity and simulated sex acts. Sick bastards.
what she^^^^^^^ said.....why any self respecting normal person would subject themselves to watching these silly fucktards or why any city would allow them to do their shit in public completely baffles me.....and they wonder why normal people are getting fed up with this gay industry bullshit......who gives a shit if they are queer......just keep it to yourself and all will be well...keep shoving it in my face and i'll react badly just like i would with any other sick fucking deviant.....
If someone watched porn with children they would be arrested. Why don't the same standards apply to the sick old fucks at the pride parades?
Because they renamed it..
			 
			
			
				If someone wants to go to pride festivities let them. I don't think anyone, especially our elected leaders should feel obligated to attend.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "seoulbro"
If someone wants to go to pride festivities let them. I don't think anyone, especially our elected leaders should feel obligated to attend.
They invade public places and thus disrupting peoples routines.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Real Woman"
A parade is a parade. 
Now She. Have you ever been to a Pride Parade?
Pride isn't a parade, it's live porn that everyone is forced to watch. Rent a fucking hall for their nudity and simulated sex acts. Sick bastards.
what she^^^^^^^ said.....why any self respecting normal person would subject themselves to watching these silly fucktards or why any city would allow them to do their shit in public completely baffles me.....and they wonder why normal people are getting fed up with this gay industry bullshit......who gives a shit if they are queer......just keep it to yourself and all will be well...keep shoving it in my face and i'll react badly just like i would with any other sick fucking deviant.....
Just makes a person shake their head. Enough is enough already. Get the fuck back in the closet or at least a hotel room.
			 
			
			
				I'm going to have to call you ignorants out.  I've asked multiple times if any of you have actually been to a Pride Parade in person.  I'm going to take it the answer is no.  It's very similar to any other parade I've been to.  It's not awash with nudity.  When I went, the worst I saw was some guys in briefs (underwear).  To put it into perspective, that's pretty much the same thing the guys in my swim club wore on our float in our city parade.
If you don't know WTF you are talking about, get educated or just shut the fuck up.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Real Woman"
I'm going to have to call you ignorants out.  I've asked multiple times if any of you have actually been to a Pride Parade in person.  I'm going to take it the answer is no.  It's very similar to any other parade I've been to.  It's not awash with nudity.  When I went, the worst I saw was some guys in briefs (underwear).  To put it into perspective, that's pretty much the same thing the guys in my swim club wore on our float in our city parade.
If you don't know WTF you are talking about, get educated or just shut the fuck up.
Alrighty then, the Iron Chink has never seen a homo parade. However, that doesn't mean I don't want my baby boy seeing that sick triple XXX shit.
			 
			
			
				Baby boy... lol
			
			
			
				If you saw one Shen, you'd be really disappointed.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Real Woman"
If you saw one Shen, you'd be really disappointed.
Don't BS me with fucking facts sister. I am pissed off today and you are not going to ruin a perfectly good hate!! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
			 
			
			
				I don't have the engeey today.  Same time tomorrow? Hehe.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Real Woman"
I don't have the engeey today.  Same time tomorrow? Hehe.
It's a date!!
			 
			
			
				Need a rain check.  Too sick to do anything :(
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Real Woman"
Need a rain check.  Too sick to do anything :(
Ah fuck, illness acting up RW?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Real Woman"
Need a rain check.  Too sick to do anything :(
Ah fuck, illness acting up RW?
The downside in telling everybody you are sick...
Its "Illness acting up?" everytime...
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Real Woman"
I'm going to have to call you ignorants out.  I've asked multiple times if any of you have actually been to a Pride Parade in person.  I'm going to take it the answer is no.  It's very similar to any other parade I've been to.  It's not awash with nudity.  When I went, the worst I saw was some guys in briefs (underwear).  To put it into perspective, that's pretty much the same thing the guys in my swim club wore on our float in our city parade.
If you don't know WTF you are talking about, get educated or just shut the fuck up.
lets not get too fast and loose with the term ignorant.......if you think what these sick fucks do in public is ok family viewing for you and yours ...so be it....normal people however, do not....we won't even go into what they do in private......personally i have been visually assaulted by these losers as i was having a few beers  on a patio on English Bay some years back.......it was pathetic......certainly today, we would deal with the issue more satisfactorily back in Dog River......these people are sick and chockerblock full of severe mental, emotional and psychological problems.......they should be institutionalized or put back in the closet...s
o truthfully your comments about ignorance should be directed to people such as yourself who know fuck all about the detrimental effects of the (male) gay life style.....most of the female ones are just plain ugly and need to be put down as an act of kindness...now smarten the fuck up
			 
			
			
				I feel the mr. asian fetish here got upset by my whiteguy/asian wife comment... lol
			
			
			
				Fat ass ugly white man with a young asian woman..
Fat ass ugly white woman with a young african man.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
I feel the mr. asian fetish here got upset by my whiteguy/asian wife comment... lol
you are too stupid to comment on any of my posts so try not to.........and  i don't read your comments/posts...so whatever you are babbling on about is lost on me......ok
			 
			
			
				Seems so, genious...
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
I feel the mr. asian fetish here got upset by my whiteguy/asian wife comment... lol
you are too stupid to comment on any of my posts so try not to.........and  i don't read your comments/posts...so whatever you are babbling on about is lost on me......ok
Not only you handsome, it's lost on everyone. He's an idiot.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
I feel the mr. asian fetish here got upset by my whiteguy/asian wife comment... lol
you are too stupid to comment on any of my posts so try not to.........and  i don't read your comments/posts...so whatever you are babbling on about is lost on me......ok
Not only you handsome, it's lost on everyone. He's an idiot.
He is not sexually threatning. 
When Odie comes to a house... You better hide your curves or things get really savage.
			 
			
			
				Naw Shen.  Picked up a bug in my travels.  UGGG!
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Obvious Li"
lets not get too fast and loose with the term ignorant.......if you think what these sick fucks do in public is ok family viewing for you and yours ...so be it....normal people however, do not....we won't even go into what they do in private......personally i have been visually assaulted by these losers as i was having a few beers  on a patio on English Bay some years back.......it was pathetic......certainly today, we would deal with the issue more satisfactorily back in Dog River......these people are sick and chockerblock full of severe mental, emotional and psychological problems.......they should be institutionalized or put back in the closet...s
o truthfully your comments about ignorance should be directed to people such as yourself who know fuck all about the detrimental effects of the (male) gay life style.....most of the female ones are just plain ugly and need to be put down as an act of kindness...now smarten the fuck up
Detrimental effects of the male gay lifestyle!  BUAHAHA!   Two of my closest friends are gay males and I hang out with them regularly.  Neither suffers from any mental illnesses or emotional problems. They have a beautiful house which is kept as neat as a pin.  They bathe daily, dress well, and smell good.  They drive expensive cars.  They have a cabin out at a local lake where we hang out in the summer.  Both make really good money and enjoy the finer things in life.  My husband and children adore them both.
From where I'm sitting, this "gay lifestyłe" ain't looking so terrible.
So listen, you have your objections based on whatever bullshit you want to invent or based on what you saw once down on Davie St.  That's your perogative but I stand by my claims of your ignorance and call to STFU.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Real Woman"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
lets not get too fast and loose with the term ignorant.......if you think what these sick fucks do in public is ok family viewing for you and yours ...so be it....normal people however, do not....we won't even go into what they do in private......personally i have been visually assaulted by these losers as i was having a few beers  on a patio on English Bay some years back.......it was pathetic......certainly today, we would deal with the issue more satisfactorily back in Dog River......these people are sick and chockerblock full of severe mental, emotional and psychological problems.......they should be institutionalized or put back in the closet...s
o truthfully your comments about ignorance should be directed to people such as yourself who know fuck all about the detrimental effects of the (male) gay life style.....most of the female ones are just plain ugly and need to be put down as an act of kindness...now smarten the fuck up
Detrimental effects of the male gay lifestyle!  BUAHAHA!   Two of my closest friends are gay males and I hang out with them regularly.  Neither suffers from any mental illnesses or emotional problems. They have a beautiful house which is kept as neat as a pin.  They bathe daily, dress well, and smell good.  They drive expensive cars.  They have a cabin out at a local lake where we hang out in the summer.  Both make really good money and enjoy the finer things in life.  My husband and children adore them both.
From where I'm sitting, this "gay lifestyłe" ain't looking so terrible.
So listen, you have your objections based on whatever bullshit you want to invent or based on what you saw once down on Davie St.  That's your perogative but I stand by my claims of your ignorance and call to STFU.
when someone is as uninformed and pigheaded as you are about the only response you can give is....whatever !!!!!!!
for me i will be just as happy not sharing a meal with someone who has a 75% plus chance of having contagious life threatening stomach parasites from injesting faeces.....or as we say in Dog River eating shit..
now run along.....you've lost another round
			 
			
			
				Gay males are non-threatning and females confess to them..
I have to squeeze the info of a female. Fetishes etc.
			
			
			
				I haven't lost one round, never mind another.
Face it, you're a simple minded prairie hick who's been bred to hate gays even though you know fuck all about them.  Around here, we call that ignorant.
Now you are welcome to be ignorant.  I can't stop you but I will offer another side (it's called reality) whether you like it or not.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Real Woman"
I haven't lost one round, never mind another.
Face it, you're a simple minded prairie hick who's been bred to hate gays even though you know fuck all about them.  Around here, we call that ignorant.
Now you are welcome to be ignorant.  I can't stop you but I will offer another side (it's called reality) whether you like it or not.
lol I hate niggers and towelheads... Not homosexuals.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Real Woman"
I haven't lost one round, never mind another.
Face it, you're a simple minded prairie hick who's been bred to hate gays even though you know fuck all about them.  Around here, we call that ignorant.
Now you are welcome to be ignorant.  I can't stop you but I will offer another side (it's called reality) whether you like it or not.
I have to concur with you RW. I know several gay men as well and they are all decent people who lead decent lives. I have no problem hanging out with them, sharing a meal or allowing my childern to be around them. 
Now ask me about some heterosexuals that I know who make my skin crawl.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Real Woman"
I haven't lost one round, never mind another.
Face it, you're a simple minded prairie hick who's been bred to hate gays even though you know fuck all about them.  Around here, we call that ignorant.
Now you are welcome to be ignorant.  I can't stop you but I will offer another side (it's called reality) whether you like it or not.
lol...you silly girl......i don`t hate gays.....i am just one of the silent majority who have had enough of the constant, continuous and ever present  in your face bullshit about the (gay lifestyle).....i wish they would just STFU and move on to something even infantisamily important...but of course they cannot be satisfied with everyone just accepting their deviency.....now the unbelievers must loudly proclaim and promote their lifestyle...........we must be subject to it in every facet of our daily lives......that is right of course because people like you say it is.....you shoud be gratefull that there are still a few no account prarie hicks left to save you progressive fools from your own folly.
one personal story, which matters neither here nor there...but is kinda funny...i have a neice who is brilliant...when she went to university she was married and an average happily adjusted 20 something...when she left university she had a degree in womens studies...a doctorate in Divinity.... had tried to commit suicide at least a dozen times that i know of (hospitalized) was a divorced, fat, ugly, now stupid, man hating re-married lesbian....she travels with her new fat ugly wife/husband giving lectures to other groups of  man hating lesbians...she hates her father, who absolutely worshiped her and is now crushed...her grandmother is completely confused about WTF happened to her favorite grand daughter....welcome to the world of higher education for the progressive left.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Real Woman"
I haven't lost one round, never mind another.
Face it, you're a simple minded prairie hick who's been bred to hate gays even though you know fuck all about them.  Around here, we call that ignorant.
Now you are welcome to be ignorant.  I can't stop you but I will offer another side (it's called reality) whether you like it or not.
lol...you silly girl......i don`t hate gays.....i am just one of the silent majority who have had enough of the constant, continuous and ever present  in your face bullshit about the (gay lifestyle).....i wish they would just STFU and move on to something even infantisamily important...but of course they cannot be satisfied with everyone just accepting their deviency.....now the unbelievers must loudly proclaim and promote their lifestyle...........we must be subject to it in every facet of our daily lives......that is right of course because people like you say it is.....you shoud be gratefull that there are still a few no account prarie hicks left to save you progressive fools from your own folly.
one personal story, which matters neither here nor there...but is kinda funny...i have a neice who is brilliant...when she went to university she was married and an average happily adjusted 20 something...when she left university she had a degree in womens studies...a doctorate in Divinity.... had tried to commit suicide at least a dozen times that i know of (hospitalized) was a divorced, fat, ugly, now stupid, man hating re-married lesbian....she travels with her new fat ugly wife/husband giving lectures to other groups of  man hating lesbians...she hates her father, who absolutely worshiped her and is now crushed...her grandmother is completely confused about WTF happened to her favorite grand daughter....welcome to the world of higher education for the progressive left.
What the fuck is the matter with SOME white people?? No offense OL, but your niece is nuts.
I don't give a flying fuck if homos want to be nude and carry giant dildo's if they rent a private hall. When they do that on public streets in front of small kiddies I want to slice their junk off.
			 
			
			
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I haven't lost one round, never mind another.
Face it, you're a simple minded prairie hick who's been bred to hate gays even though you know fuck all about them.  Around here, we call that ignorant.
Now you are welcome to be ignorant.  I can't stop you but I will offer another side (it's called reality) whether you like it or not.
lol...you silly girl......i don`t hate gays.....i am just one of the silent majority who have had enough of the constant, continuous and ever present  in your face bullshit about the (gay lifestyle).....i wish they would just STFU and move on to something even infantisamily important...but of course they cannot be satisfied with everyone just accepting their deviency.....now the unbelievers must loudly proclaim and promote their lifestyle...........we must be subject to it in every facet of our daily lives......that is right of course because people like you say it is.....you shoud be gratefull that there are still a few no account prarie hicks left to save you progressive fools from your own folly.
one personal story, which matters neither here nor there...but is kinda funny...i have a neice who is brilliant...when she went to university she was married and an average happily adjusted 20 something...when she left university she had a degree in womens studies...a doctorate in Divinity.... had tried to commit suicide at least a dozen times that i know of (hospitalized) was a divorced, fat, ugly, now stupid, man hating re-married lesbian....she travels with her new fat ugly wife/husband giving lectures to other groups of  man hating lesbians...she hates her father, who absolutely worshiped her and is now crushed...her grandmother is completely confused about WTF happened to her favorite grand daughter....welcome to the world of higher education for the progressive left.
What the fuck is the matter with SOME white people?? No offense OL, but your niece is nuts.
I don't give a flying fuck if homos want to be nude and carry giant dildo's if they rent a private hall. When they do that on public streets in front of small kiddies I want to slice their junk off.
hahaha....no worries..........she is loonier than a shithouse rat...........i won't even go to family functions if her and her wife/husband are going because of the way she treats her father.......just be thankful your dad and mom settled in Edmonton so you could go to a university dedicated to producing business ready grads........instead she was born in the NDP stronghold of Sask. whose universities were pioneers in the 80's whacko, feminist, man hating, modern progressive left........for the last 25 years they have been basically absent from the teaching of any serious academia...producing 100's of thousand of humanities, women's studies, and native studies grads.......i could not think of a greater waste of tax payer dollars....not including the total waste of thousands of unemployable young minds..........the buildings would be of better use by just being abandoned
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Obvious Li"
hahaha....no worries..........she is loonier than a shithouse rat...........i won't even go to family functions if her and her wife/husband are going because of the way she treats her father.......just be thankful your dad and mom settled in Edmonton so you could go to a university dedicated to producing business ready grads........instead she was born in the NDP stronghold of Sask. whose universities were pioneers in the 80's whacko, feminist, man hating, modern progressive left........for the last 25 years they have been basically absent from the teaching of any serious academia...producing 100's of thousand of humanities, women's studies, and native studies grads.......i could not think of a greater waste of tax payer dollars....not including the total waste of thousands of unemployable young minds..........the buildings would be of better use by just being abandoned
I don't even consider those pieces of paper a degree. As we can see from your niece the only occupation those wastes of time prepare one for is lunatic asshole, but there seems to be far more applicants for those positions than our economy needs.
			 
			
			
				I took a Woman's Studies class in college.  It should be outlawed IMHO.  I found it far more offensive than any gay pride parade. 
I still don't get this "gay lifestyle" shit.  Wtf does that even mean?!
No one has to accept their "deviancy".  They just to not treat them like lesser human beings for being attracted to the same sex.  Simple.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Real Woman"
I took a Woman's Studies class in college.  It should be outlawed IMHO.  I found it far more offensive than any gay pride parade. 
I still don't get this "gay lifestyle" shit.  Wtf does that even mean?!
No one has to accept their "deviancy".  They just to not treat them like lesser human beings for being attracted to the same sex.  Simple.
I don't know about the homo lifestyle either, but public nudity and simulated sex acts in the vicinity of my son means junk removal day.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Real Woman"
I took a Woman's Studies class in college.  It should be outlawed IMHO.  I found it far more offensive than any gay pride parade. 
I still don't get this "gay lifestyle" shit.  Wtf does that even mean?!
No one has to accept their "deviancy".  They just to not treat them like lesser human beings for being attracted to the same sex.  Simple.
ok i will give you a couple of points....those being,  no one should be treated as a lesser human being or discriminated against as a result of their sexual orientation or choice of orientation.....and yes women's studies is offensive ......
as far as the gay lifestyle goes  i will let you figure it out......if you are unwilling to accept the medical literature or comparative studies on the differences in sexual contacts and spread of diseases among practicing  homos or hetros so be it....you are free to believe as you wish......but i would refrain from calling other people ignorant who know more about the subject than you do.....
deviancy is simple a deviation from the norm.....anything that affects only 2-3% of any population is by definition statistically abnormal...thus it is a deviant....the percentages of gays in any given population are statistically in line with many other abnormalities from diseases to disfigurations to good baseball players.......they are not, nor ever can be, equals to or the same as, the other 97% of the population.....
i was about to give you a treatise on gay marriage but i feel we have probably beat this subject to death......when sanity returns to the civilized world i will still be here (i hope) to put the pieces back together again......cheerio
			 
			
			
				Why don't homos hold their nudity and simulated sex exhibitionism(parade) in a private hall and charge admission to consenting adults who actually want to see that shit? Public streets in daytime is no place for that.
			
			
			
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hahaha....no worries..........she is loonier than a shithouse rat...........i won't even go to family functions if her and her wife/husband are going because of the way she treats her father.......just be thankful your dad and mom settled in Edmonton so you could go to a university dedicated to producing business ready grads........instead she was born in the NDP stronghold of Sask. whose universities were pioneers in the 80's whacko, feminist, man hating, modern progressive left........for the last 25 years they have been basically absent from the teaching of any serious academia...producing 100's of thousand of humanities, women's studies, and native studies grads.......i could not think of a greater waste of tax payer dollars....not including the total waste of thousands of unemployable young minds..........the buildings would be of better use by just being abandoned
I don't even consider those pieces of paper a degree. As we can see from your niece the only occupation those wastes of time prepare one for is lunatic asshole, but there seems to be far more applicants for those positions than our economy needs.
The world would be one sterile, boring place without arts degree grads.
			 
			
			
				Why don't you go to a parade Shen.  I hope all those straight people sitting on the backs of stupid old cars don't harm your baby.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Obvious Li"
the percentages of gays in any given population are statistically in line with many other abnormalities from diseases to disfigurations to good baseball players
Good baseball players are abnormal deviants? Maybe they were just born that way and some people like playing baseball.
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
if you are unwilling to accept the medical literature or comparative studies
Medical literature and comparative studies say there's nothing abnormal with being gay. It's no less abnormal than being straight.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Obvious Li"
ok i will give you a couple of points....those being,  no one should be treated as a lesser human being or discriminated against as a result of their sexual orientation or choice of orientation.....and yes women's studies is offensive ......
as far as the gay lifestyle goes  i will let you figure it out......if you are unwilling to accept the medical literature or comparative studies on the differences in sexual contacts and spread of diseases among practicing  homos or hetros so be it....you are free to believe as you wish......but i would refrain from calling other people ignorant who know more about the subject than you do.....
deviancy is simple a deviation from the norm.....anything that affects only 2-3% of any population is by definition statistically abnormal...thus it is a deviant....the percentages of gays in any given population are statistically in line with many other abnormalities from diseases to disfigurations to good baseball players.......they are not, nor ever can be, equals to or the same as, the other 97% of the population.....
i was about to give you a treatise on gay marriage but i feel we have probably beat this subject to death......when sanity returns to the civilized world i will still be here (i hope) to put the pieces back together again......cheerio
I really can't figure out this "gay lifestyle" business.  Is it where two guys live together but actually clean their bathrooms?  *shrug*
I'm very familiar with disease statistics.  An4l sex is a higher risk sexual act.  No doubt about it.  But regardless of who they fuck, they are people just the same as you and I, although I like to think of myself as more human than you.
			 
			
			
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Why don't you go to a parade Shen.  I hope all those straight people sitting on the backs of stupid old cars don't harm your baby.
It's not people in cars or costumes that should be restricted to those over 18. If this was in a Cineplex kiddies could not see it. Call it pride and hold it on a weekend during daytime and no problem. :roll: 

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ok i will give you a couple of points....those being,  no one should be treated as a lesser human being or discriminated against as a result of their sexual orientation or choice of orientation.....and yes women's studies is offensive ......
as far as the gay lifestyle goes  i will let you figure it out......if you are unwilling to accept the medical literature or comparative studies on the differences in sexual contacts and spread of diseases among practicing  homos or hetros so be it....you are free to believe as you wish......but i would refrain from calling other people ignorant who know more about the subject than you do.....
deviancy is simple a deviation from the norm.....anything that affects only 2-3% of any population is by definition statistically abnormal...thus it is a deviant....the percentages of gays in any given population are statistically in line with many other abnormalities from diseases to disfigurations to good baseball players.......they are not, nor ever can be, equals to or the same as, the other 97% of the population.....
i was about to give you a treatise on gay marriage but i feel we have probably beat this subject to death......when sanity returns to the civilized world i will still be here (i hope) to put the pieces back together again......cheerio
I really can't figure out this "gay lifestyle" business.  Is it where two guys live together but actually clean their bathrooms?  *shrug*
I'm very familiar with disease statistics.  An4l sex is a higher risk sexual act.  No doubt about it.  But regardless of who they fuck, they are people just the same as you and I, although I like to think of myself as more human than you.
They go bareback because theres no threat of pregnancy. The condom tip blows off pretty easily even during normal sex.
The disease is rampant...
I dont want to see some ugly old naked people.
			 
			
			
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hahaha....no worries..........she is loonier than a shithouse rat...........i won't even go to family functions if her and her wife/husband are going because of the way she treats her father.......just be thankful your dad and mom settled in Edmonton so you could go to a university dedicated to producing business ready grads........instead she was born in the NDP stronghold of Sask. whose universities were pioneers in the 80's whacko, feminist, man hating, modern progressive left........for the last 25 years they have been basically absent from the teaching of any serious academia...producing 100's of thousand of humanities, women's studies, and native studies grads.......i could not think of a greater waste of tax payer dollars....not including the total waste of thousands of unemployable young minds..........the buildings would be of better use by just being abandoned
I don't even consider those pieces of paper a degree. As we can see from your niece the only occupation those wastes of time prepare one for is lunatic asshole, but there seems to be far more applicants for those positions than our economy needs.
The world would be one sterile, boring place without arts degree grads.
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ya...you are right......if they paid for them themselves all would be well......but we pay for most of it...so i prefer they actually learn something.......
			 
			
			
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I don't even consider those pieces of paper a degree. As we can see from your niece the only occupation those wastes of time prepare one for is lunatic asshole, but there seems to be far more applicants for those positions than our economy needs.
The world would be one sterile, boring place without arts degree grads.
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ya...you are right......if they paid for them themselves all would be well......but we pay for most of it...so i prefer they actually learn something.......
Yep, couldn't agree more. In fact, all funding of the arts and athletes should end. Let corporate sponsors pay for that unnecessary stuff.
			 
			
			
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The world would be one sterile, boring place without arts degree grads.
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ya...you are right......if they paid for them themselves all would be well......but we pay for most of it...so i prefer they actually learn something.......
Yep, couldn't agree more. In fact, all funding of the arts and athletes should end. Let corporate sponsors pay for that unnecessary stuff.
Athletes are something to look up to but they are pulling some ridiculous salaries... Like Tiger Woods.. The dude is a kazillionaire for swinging a small ball.
He aint exactly a rolemodel due to his ball swinging in his private time also.
			 
			
			
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hahaha....no worries..........she is loonier than a shithouse rat...........i won't even go to family functions if her and her wife/husband are going because of the way she treats her father.......just be thankful your dad and mom settled in Edmonton so you could go to a university dedicated to producing business ready grads........instead she was born in the NDP stronghold of Sask. whose universities were pioneers in the 80's whacko, feminist, man hating, modern progressive left........for the last 25 years they have been basically absent from the teaching of any serious academia...producing 100's of thousand of humanities, women's studies, and native studies grads.......i could not think of a greater waste of tax payer dollars....not including the total waste of thousands of unemployable young minds..........the buildings would be of better use by just being abandoned
I don't even consider those pieces of paper a degree. As we can see from your niece the only occupation those wastes of time prepare one for is lunatic asshole, but there seems to be far more applicants for those positions than our economy needs.
The world would be one sterile, boring place without arts degree grads.
Well said but that being the case, I believe that an arts or humanities degree as a "major" is a viable path toward employment for limited applications only. Most of the kids studying these degrees are merely hiding out from the real world, on their parent's dime for 4 or sometimes more years.
A friend of mine has a daughter that graduated with an anthropology degree 4 years ago. Since graduation she has worked several retail jobs and has waited table's part time, why; because her degree is basically useless in the real world. For that degree to even have a ghost of a chance at being useful she will have to go on to her masters and possibly even her doctorate. Even then her employment opportunities based on her degree will be very finite. It also doesn't help that since going to college this girl has garnered a crapload of very visible garish tats and a plethora of facial piercings. She was once an attractive girl who now looks like graffiti covered rack of nuts and bolts.
  
The really sad part is her family took out a second mortgage to send her to NYU and both her and her family didn't even have the foresight to realize that the degree she was pursuing was a 100 thousand dollar anchor.
 
You have to wonder what goes thru some people's minds when making important decisions that will affect their lives. But then again anyone who goes to or sends their kid to a high priced Univ and chases an anthropology degree in the hopes of getting a job upon graduation, can't have much going thru their minds in the first place.
			 
			
			
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I don't even consider those pieces of paper a degree. As we can see from your niece the only occupation those wastes of time prepare one for is lunatic asshole, but there seems to be far more applicants for those positions than our economy needs.
The world would be one sterile, boring place without arts degree grads.
Well said but that being the case, I believe that an arts or humanities degree as a "major" is a viable path toward employment for limited applications only. Most of the kids studying these degrees are merely hiding out from the real world, on their parent's dime for 4 or sometimes more years.
A friend of mine has a daughter that graduated with an anthropology degree 4 years ago. Since graduation she has worked several retail jobs and has waited table's part time, why; because her degree is basically useless in the real world. For that degree to even have a ghost of a chance at being useful she will have to go on to her masters and possibly even her doctorate. Even then her employment opportunities based on her degree will be very finite. It also doesn't help that since going to college this girl has garnered a crapload of visible tats and a plethora of facial piercings. She was once an attractive girl who now looks like graffiti covered rack of nuts and bolts. 
  
The really sad part is her family took out a second mortgage to send her to NYU and both her and her family didn't even have the foresight to realize that the degree she was pursuing was a 100 thousand dollar anchor.
 
You have to wonder what goes thru some people's minds when making important decisions that will affect their lives. But then again anyone who goes to or sends their kid to a high priced Univ and chases an anthropology degree in the hopes of getting a job upon graduation, can't have much going thru their minds in the first place.
as is the case i pretty much always agree with Miss Renee......truthfully the world would be a boring place if it was full of MBA's and Engineers.......but it is not possible to justify putting yourself in debt to the tune of 100k or more just for the privilege of attending a university.....couldn't you have just borrowed the books and gone to the library.....??????
of course in canada  close to 75% of a university degree is paid for by the taxpayers so it is no big deal to these kids.......so what if the degree is more than useless....someone else is paying for it...even then my real issue with that is the incompetence of the teaching profession and their eco-enviro-antibusness indoctrination of uneducated young minds is both dangerous and damaging as these grads are basically useless for the rest of their lives.......i liken it to Hitler youth....those that are still alive today....70 years after the war still are believers......indoctrinations absorbed during youth rarely are overcome......
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "seoulbro"
The world would be one sterile, boring place without arts degree grads.
Well said but that being the case, I believe that an arts or humanities degree as a "major" is a viable path toward employment for limited applications only. Most of the kids studying these degrees are merely hiding out from the real world, on their parent's dime for 4 or sometimes more years.
A friend of mine has a daughter that graduated with an anthropology degree 4 years ago. Since graduation she has worked several retail jobs and has waited table's part time, why; because her degree is basically useless in the real world. For that degree to even have a ghost of a chance at being useful she will have to go on to her masters and possibly even her doctorate. Even then her employment opportunities based on her degree will be very finite. It also doesn't help that since going to college this girl has garnered a crapload of visible tats and a plethora of facial piercings. She was once an attractive girl who now looks like graffiti covered rack of nuts and bolts. 
  
The really sad part is her family took out a second mortgage to send her to NYU and both her and her family didn't even have the foresight to realize that the degree she was pursuing was a 100 thousand dollar anchor.
 
You have to wonder what goes thru some people's minds when making important decisions that will affect their lives. But then again anyone who goes to or sends their kid to a high priced Univ and chases an anthropology degree in the hopes of getting a job upon graduation, can't have much going thru their minds in the first place.
as is the case i pretty much always agree with Miss Renee......truthfully the world would be a boring place if it was full of MBA's and Engineers.......but it is not possible to justify putting yourself in debt to the tune of 100k or more just for the privilege of attending a university.....couldn't you have just borrowed the books and gone to the library.....??????
of course in canada  close to 75% of a university degree is paid for by the taxpayers so it is no big deal to these kids.......so what if the degree is more than useless....someone else is paying for it...even then my real issue with that is the incompetence of the teaching profession and their eco-enviro-antibusness indoctrination of uneducated young minds is both dangerous and damaging as these grads are basically useless for the rest of their lives.......i liken it to Hitler youth....those that are still alive today....70 years after the war still are believers......indoctrinations absorbed during youth rarely are overcome......
You have hit another issue that is much more disturbing than a useless arts degree and that is the sociopolitical indoctrination of our youth. I'm not sure how it is in Canada but in the US progressives have found a very insidious way of achieving their agenda. They have taken to hiding out in our colleges and universities masquerading as educators. The reality is that have no desire to educate because an educated free thinking populace is detrimental to their cause. Their true aim is to brainwash the younger generation and indoctrinate them into their ideology. This way they can effect elections, change cultural and societal norms and essentially change the very fabric and face of the US. Thankfully the problem they are running into at this point is that after graduation many young people are sadly discovering that everything they were told by these prog weasels was basically a lie. There are no jobs for them because the prog politicians who are currently in power have stagnated the US economy with their policies so badly that it has become a sinking ship. 
Furthermore the very wealthy in America (whom the progs spend endless hours demonizing) are and have done quite well for themselves under the progressive's watch these past 6 years. A lot of people in the US are waking up to this far left political charade the exact same way that they did at the end of the 1970s and they don't like what they see and nor do they like what the future looks to be bringing.
			 
			
			
				Munday, can you show me where 75% of a degree is tax payer funded?  I'd be interested in reading up on that.
			
			
			
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Munday, can you show me where 75% of a degree is tax payer funded?  I'd be interested in reading up on that.
up and until the 1990's approximately 75% of the costs of a university education was picked up by the taxpayers......currently it ranges from 50% to 75% depending on how enlightened the province you live in happens to be.......they latest stats i have read for BC put the taxpayers on the hook for 60% of the cost.....this does not take into account if students win scholarships, bursaries etc.....
my second daughter (yes i am proud) graduated tops in her class in the international baccalaureate program in high school....she went to Queens became a doctor and now practices (research) in Edmonton....and yes i am very proud of her....but my point here is, her degrees cost us basically nothing as she was eligible for many many scholarships and she was from Alberta which rebates most tuition fees no matter where you go, as long as your marks are high enough.......great system (seriously)
			 
			
			
				You have hit another issue that is much more disturbing than a useless arts degree and that is the sociopolitical indoctrination of our youth. I'm not sure how it is in Canada but in the US progressives have found a very insidious way of achieving their agenda. They have taken to hiding out in our colleges and universities masquerading as educators. The reality is that have no desire to educate because an educated free thinking populace is detrimental to their cause. Their true aim is to brainwash the younger generation and indoctrinate them into their ideology. This way they can effect elections, change cultural and societal norms and essentially change the very fabric and face of the US. Thankfully the problem they are running into at this point is that after graduation many young people are sadly discovering that everything they were told by these prog weasels was basically a lie. There are no jobs for them because the prog politicians who are currently in power have stagnated the US economy with their policies so badly that it has become a sinking ship. 
Furthermore the very wealthy in America (whom the progs spend endless hours demonizing) are and have done quite well for themselves under the progressive's watch these past 6 years. A lot of people in the US are waking up to this far left political charade the exact same way that they did at the end of the 1970s and they don't like what they see and nor do they like what the future looks to be bringing.[/quote]
i could not say it any better and will only add that the leftist infiltration into centers of education and the socialist indoctrination of young minds, is worse in Canada by factors of 10.....Canada was ground zero for the era of progressive insanity we now live in.....my son actually had to change universities ...he wanted to get a degree in poli sci and go into politics...but all his profs were naxi feminists and when he openly challenged their course materials and political philosophy they made it impossible for him to continue...ok by me as he took a business program and now runs a fairly large publicly traded business in Calgary.....
			
			
			
				i apologize for bringing up family examples.......so just for clarification....i have six kids....four are mine and two are step kids.....they have all turned out very successful except my stepson who has had a few issues...knock on wood...............four went to university, two did not......
			
			
			
				Thanks Munday.
			
			
			
				Don't apologize!  You have to work with what you have and I sounds like you've done a great job with your muppets.
			
			
			
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Munday, can you show me where 75% of a degree is tax payer funded?  I'd be interested in reading up on that.
up and until the 1990's approximately 75% of the costs of a university education was picked up by the taxpayers......currently it ranges from 50% to 75% depending on how enlightened the province you live in happens to be.......they latest stats i have read for BC put the taxpayers on the hook for 60% of the cost.....this does not take into account if students win scholarships, bursaries etc.....
my second daughter (yes i am proud) graduated tops in her class in the international baccalaureate program in high school....she went to Queens became a doctor and now practices (research) in Edmonton....and yes i am very proud of her....but my point here is, her degrees cost us basically nothing as she was eligible for many many scholarships and she was from Alberta which rebates most tuition fees no matter where you go, as long as your marks are high enough.......great system (seriously)
Many of the states here in the US work in similar fashion. If you have the grades and you are a full time resident of the state and you are going to a state sponsored school, you go to school for next to nothing. But it only works for state sponsored colleges and universities. Private institutions you are on the hook to either pay the full boat or find scholarships or apply for student loans. Many of the loans are federally funded but you are still required to pay them back and at ridiculous interest rates I might add. The only bright spot is that millions in scholarship money goes un-awarded every year. All one needs to do is chase it down but unfortunately it is almost a 24/7 endeavor. 
The average student coming out of a 4 year college in the US today has about 30 to 40 grand hanging on their ass. If you go on to a degree that is more than 4 years expect to be anywhere from 50 to 100 thousand in debt. Currently the default rate on student loans is enormous because kids coming out of college have very few employment opportunities. So if you have a BS in something ridiculous like art history expect to be pumping gas or flipping burgers as a career for some time to come.
 
We are now developing an entire generation of college graduates who if lucky enough to get a job, say the same thing every day: 
"Welcome to McDonalds, may I take your order?"   :cry:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Real Woman"
Munday, can you show me where 75% of a degree is tax payer funded?  I'd be interested in reading up on that.
 i did not post any of the studies i have read but the information is readily available online.........the theory as proposed is that by subsidizing a university education you more than make up for it in taxes paid over the persons life time.....i'm not sure if i buy that........for three reasons..
1. most of the serious people would still go to university and pay for it themselves as they realize the value of a professional degree.
2. It encourages people to go and get useless degrees, waste taxpayers money, and still end up working in low paying jobs because their degrees are worthless...thus paying less taxes than they would have had they started working directly after high school.
3.The personal philosophy of ..if you are not willing to pay for your kids education why the hell should i.
			 
			
			
				I read some studies.
It's not so much that degrees are worthless but industry standards are such that a bachelor's degree has become the minimum requirement for jobs that didn't used to require one.  Like if you want to be a receptionist, or a secretary you better have a post secondary degree.  Want a monkey job doing data entry?  Better have a degree.  It's ridiculous.
A Mc Job is about the only one you don't need a fricken degree for.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Real Woman"
I read some studies.
It's not so much that degrees are worthless but industry standards are such that a bachelor's degree has become the minimum requirement for jobs that didn't used to require one.  Like if you want to be a receptionist, or a secretary you better have a post secondary degree.  Want a monkey job doing data entry?  Better have a degree.  It's ridiculous.
A Mc Job is about the only one you don't need a fricken degree for.
That's the other problem, a BS is now basically needed for what used to be entry level HS education jobs (which as you say is absolutely ridiculous). Unfortunately a lot of college's grads today don't want to work the 25,000 dollar a year entry level jobs because they were told that upon graduation they would be worth so much more. 
It's not their fault that they were lied to but a little bit of realism is needed on their part. The employment world has changed dramatically in recent years and people need to realize that or they will end up mopping floors and washing windows for a living.
			 
			
			
				College grad dont mean shit...
They are like coffee machines which deliver the coffee on your table.
			
			
			
				16000e/year... At max.
			
			
			
				I would like to thank Real Woman, Obvious Li and Renee for their input..
My husband and I find the more we save and live within our means the brighter our futures.
			
			
			
				Trades is where it's at.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Real Woman"
Trades is where it's at.
My husband is a master electrician, so I agree with you Real Woman.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Real Woman"
Trades is where it's at.
In Alberta, Saskatchewan, Newfoundland and parts of BC, the demand for most journeymen tradespeople far exceeds the supply. Many are able to negotiate perks almost unheard of in other occupations. 
What needs to change is the perception of the trades. East Asian parents in particular view the trades as unacceptable occupations for their kids.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Real Woman"
Trades is where it's at.
In Alberta, Saskatchewan, Newfoundland and parts of BC, the demand for most journeymen tradespeople far exceeds the supply. Many are able to negotiate perks almost unheard of in other occupations. 
What needs to change is the perception of the trades. East Asian parents in particular view the trades as unacceptable occupations for their kids.
i know...we had a lot of asian trades people years ago but they came from a lower status as far as they were concerned.......you know i heard something on one of the radio talk shows last week that i found hard to believe...the commentator stated that the average wage in the Fort Mcmurray oil sands industry had hit $100 per hr........can you believe that.....and people still frown upon going to trade school..
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Real Woman"
Trades is where it's at.
In Alberta, Saskatchewan, Newfoundland and parts of BC, the demand for most journeymen tradespeople far exceeds the supply. Many are able to negotiate perks almost unheard of in other occupations. 
What needs to change is the perception of the trades. East Asian parents in particular view the trades as unacceptable occupations for their kids.
i know...we had a lot of asian trades people years ago but they came from a lower status as far as they were concerned.......you know i heard something on one of the radio talk shows last week that i found hard to believe...the commentator stated that the average wage in the Fort Mcmurray oil sands industry had hit $100 per hr........can you believe that.....and people still frown upon going to trade school..
The study that says that the oilsands pays $100/hr vs. $50/hr in auto manufacturing includes more than just base hourly wages.
http://www.edmontonsun.com/2014/03/18/canada-should-prioritize-exporting-natural-resources-report
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
In Alberta, Saskatchewan, Newfoundland and parts of BC, the demand for most journeymen tradespeople far exceeds the supply. Many are able to negotiate perks almost unheard of in other occupations. 
What needs to change is the perception of the trades. East Asian parents in particular view the trades as unacceptable occupations for their kids.
i know...we had a lot of asian trades people years ago but they came from a lower status as far as they were concerned.......you know i heard something on one of the radio talk shows last week that i found hard to believe...the commentator stated that the average wage in the Fort Mcmurray oil sands industry had hit $100 per hr........can you believe that.....and people still frown upon going to trade school..
The study that says that the oilsands pays $100/hr vs. $50/hr in auto manufacturing includes more than just base hourly wages.
http://www.edmontonsun.com/2014/03/18/canada-should-prioritize-exporting-natural-resources-report
thx for the read...it is unbelievable....in a good way
			 
			
			
				Will anyone do anything special for St. Patrick's Day tomorrow?
Any special food you will eat or perhaps go to a parade or bar?
Will you wear green?
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Will anyone do anything special for St. Patrick's Day tomorrow?
Any special food you will eat or perhaps go to a parade or bar?
Will you wear green?
Not me, I celebrated on Saturday. Fuck, did I celebrate. :stupid:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Will anyone do anything special for St. Patrick's Day tomorrow?
Any special food you will eat or perhaps go to a parade or bar?
Will you wear green?
Not me, I celebrated on Saturday. Fuck, did I celebrate. :stupid:
oh boy.....any cameras around this time ?????? lordy lordy.... ac_lmfao  ac_toofunny  ac_wub  acc_devil  :howdy:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Will anyone do anything special for St. Patrick's Day tomorrow?
Any special food you will eat or perhaps go to a parade or bar?
Will you wear green?
Not me, I celebrated on Saturday. Fuck, did I celebrate. :stupid:
oh boy.....any cameras around this time ?????? lordy lordy.... ac_lmfao  ac_toofunny  ac_wub  acc_devil  :howdy:
I'll never tell. ac_razz  ac_dance
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Will anyone do anything special for St. Patrick's Day tomorrow?
Any special food you will eat or perhaps go to a parade or bar?
Will you wear green?
Not me, I celebrated on Saturday. Fuck, did I celebrate. :stupid:
Yeah, I got the impression you were pretty celebrated. ac_toofunny
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Will anyone do anything special for St. Patrick's Day tomorrow?
Any special food you will eat or perhaps go to a parade or bar?
Will you wear green?
Not me, I celebrated on Saturday. Fuck, did I celebrate. :stupid:
Yeah, I got the impression you were pretty celebrated. ac_toofunny
You have some Irish ancestry don't you Renee? The day mean anything to you?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Not me, I celebrated on Saturday. Fuck, did I celebrate. :stupid:
Yeah, I got the impression you were pretty celebrated. ac_toofunny
You have some Irish ancestry don't you Renee? The day mean anything to you?
Yeah, bad food.
That and when I was 17 I got may ass pinched about a dozen times by drunks at the parade in NYC. That left a lasting impression regarding my heritage.  ac_rollseyes
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
Yeah, I got the impression you were pretty celebrated. ac_toofunny
You have some Irish ancestry don't you Renee? The day mean anything to you?
Yeah, bad food.
That and when I was 17 I got may ass pinched about a dozen times by drunks at the parade in NYC. That left a lasting impression.  ac_rollseyes
We have a pub in Edmonton owned by people from Ireland. To be honest, I don't know the diff between Irish and British food.
Ass pinched eh? Reminds of my days riding the LRT in my first year of uni before my parents bought me my first car.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
You have some Irish ancestry don't you Renee? The day mean anything to you?
Yeah, bad food.
That and when I was 17 I got may ass pinched about a dozen times by drunks at the parade in NYC. That left a lasting impression.  ac_rollseyes
We have a pub in Edmonton owned by people from Ireland. To be honest, I don't know the diff between Irish and British food.
Ass pinched eh? Reminds of my days riding the LRT in my first year of uni before my parents bought me my first car.
There isn't a whole lot of difference nowadays but years ago as bad as British food can be, Irish food was way worse. Lots of bland boiled meats with cabbage, potatoes and parsnips, BLEECH! For many years boiled potatoes were a staple because they were cheap and can feed large families. 
But there are some decent dishes like Dublin Coddle, steak and Guinness pie and lamb stew. Good soda bread is one of my faves as well. Some of the desserts aren't bad either. My mom makes an Irish whiskey cake that's very good.
Also I like a good hard Irish cheddar with a few beers.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
You have some Irish ancestry don't you Renee? The day mean anything to you?
Yeah, bad food.
That and when I was 17 I got may ass pinched about a dozen times by drunks at the parade in NYC. That left a lasting impression.  ac_rollseyes
We have a pub in Edmonton owned by people from Ireland. To be honest, I don't know the diff between Irish and British food.
Ass pinched eh? Reminds of my days riding the LRT in my first year of uni before my parents bought me my first car.
Yeah, ain't it a real treat? 
I don't know about you but I bruise real easy. My husband always says I'm like a piece of overripe fruit.  ac_rollseyes
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
There isn't a whole lot of difference nowadays but years ago as bad as British food can be, Irish food was way worse. Lots of bland boiled meats with cabbage, potatoes and parsnips, BLEECH! For many years boiled potatoes were a staple because they were cheap and can feed large families. 
But there are some decent dishes like Dublin Coddle, steak and Guinness pie and lamb stew. Good soda bread is one of my faves as well. Some of the desserts aren't bad either. My mom makes an Irish whiskey cake that's very good.
Also I like a good hard Irish cheddar with a few beers.
I had Steak and Guinness pie at the Irish owned pub in Edmonton. It was alright. Not my kind of food.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
Yeah, bad food.
That and when I was 17 I got may ass pinched about a dozen times by drunks at the parade in NYC. That left a lasting impression.  ac_rollseyes
We have a pub in Edmonton owned by people from Ireland. To be honest, I don't know the diff between Irish and British food.
Ass pinched eh? Reminds of my days riding the LRT in my first year of uni before my parents bought me my first car.
Yeah, ain't it a real treat? 
I don't know about you but I bruise real easy. My husband always says I'm like a piece of overripe fruit.  ac_rollseyes
It's my golden/yellow flesh. Bruises aren't as visible on me as they are on you pasty types. ac_razz
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
We have a pub in Edmonton owned by people from Ireland. To be honest, I don't know the diff between Irish and British food.
Ass pinched eh? Reminds of my days riding the LRT in my first year of uni before my parents bought me my first car.
Yeah, ain't it a real treat? 
I don't know about you but I bruise real easy. My husband always says I'm like a piece of overripe fruit.  ac_rollseyes
It's my golden/yellow flesh. Bruises aren't as visible on me as they are on you pasty types. ac_razz
So if you get punched in the face you won't get raccoon eyes?  ac_toofunny 
You're a wife beaters dream. Odie really missed out when you told him to fuck off. ac_lmfao
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
So if you get punched in the face you won't get raccoon eyes?  ac_toofunny 
You're a wife beaters dream. Odie really missed out when you told him to fuck off. ac_lmfao
That idiot is ALL talk. Rambling, idiotic bullshit and nothing more. I'm about as scared of that clown as I am of Fash.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
So if you get punched in the face you won't get raccoon eyes?  ac_toofunny 
You're a wife beaters dream. Odie really missed out when you told him to fuck off. ac_lmfao
That idiot is ALL talk. Rambling, idiotic bullshit and nothing more. I'm about as scared of that clown as I am of Fash.
Don't worry, Odie wants me; but sometimes he want's RW, or Inky, or evs or mimi......or Blurt.
But you're safe.  ac_toofunny
			 
			
			
				It is always pleasant to see everyone wearing something green on St. Patrick's Day.
 ac_smile
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
It is always pleasant to see everyone wearing something green on St. Patrick's Day.
 ac_smile
Even if it's their teeth.  ac_biggrin
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
It is always pleasant to see everyone wearing something green on St. Patrick's Day.
 ac_smile
Even if it's their teeth.  ac_biggrin
Oh my, I have never seen that Renee..
They must be following their doctor's advice to eat their greens.
 ac_toofunny
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
It is always pleasant to see everyone wearing something green on St. Patrick's Day.
 ac_smile
Even if it's their teeth.  ac_biggrin
Oh my, I have never seen that Renee..
They must be following their doctor's advice to eat their greens.
 ac_toofunny
You'll usually smell it before you see it. ac_wot
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Renee"
Even if it's their teeth.  ac_biggrin
Oh my, I have never seen that Renee..
They must be following their doctor's advice to eat their greens.
 ac_toofunny
You'll usually smell it before you see it. ac_wot
Do you mean alcohol Renee?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Oh my, I have never seen that Renee..
They must be following their doctor's advice to eat their greens.
 ac_toofunny
You'll usually smell it before you see it. ac_wot
Do you mean alcohol Renee?
No , it's a bad breath joke. 
People with green teeth usually have rotten breath.
			 
			
			
				ac_dance Tops
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Renee"
You'll usually smell it before you see it. ac_wot
Do you mean alcohol Renee?
No , it's a bad breath joke. 
People with green teeth usually have rotten breath.
I haven't been around many people with green teeth Renee..
I assumed you meant green beer..
Toothpaste is still very cheap, so there's no excuse for foul breath.
			 
			
			
				Holy Angelina Jolie ! Canadians celebrating St. Patricks day smacks of colonial mentality ! Why isn't there Dr San Yat Sen day ?
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Rambo Wong"
Holy Angelina Jolie ! Canadians celebrating St. Patricks day smacks of colonial mentality ! Why isn't there Dr San Yat Sen day ?
Because this is not Taiwan Rambo.
			 
			
			
				I am not Irish myself, but for those that are or want to be, happy St Patrick's Day.
 ac_smile 
			
			
			
				Thanks, Fash. Happy St. Pats Day to you and yours.
Everyone is Irish on St. Patrick's Day.
Pass the Jameson. :thumbup:
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Thanks, Fash. Happy St. Pats Day to you and yours.
Everyone is Irish on St. Patrick's Day.
Pass the Jameson. :thumbup:
To go with an order of corned beef and cabbage.
 ac_smile
			 
			
			
				Tonight I will drop by an Irish themed bar I know for a real Irish coffee. Why not, Koreans are the Irish of the East.
			
			
			
				
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Happy shamrock day.
			 
			
			
				Some of my best friends are Irish.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "The Donald"
Some of my best friends are Irish.
You are so open minded Donald Trump..
That must be why millions of Americans love you.
 :wink:
			 
			
			
				Kiss me I am Ukrainian.