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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: Superchecker on August 14, 2022, 08:00:23 PM

Title: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Superchecker on August 14, 2022, 08:00:23 PM
Will Teflon Don ever got to jail?



Or will he get re-elected in 2024?
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2022, 08:20:40 PM
Quote from: Superchecker post_id=470811 time=1660521623 user_id=101
Will Teflon Don ever got to jail?



Or will he get re-elected in 2024?

The democRATS got until November to block his nomination. After that, the GOP will take the House and the impeachement of Biden will begin.



I want Ron DeSantis to be the GOP nominee.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2022, 08:36:39 PM
Impeachment doesn't mean much anymore.



Also, I think Trump will avoid prison.



He won't be re-elected, if he even runs again.  No more old fucks in office, please.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2022, 08:40:37 PM
Quote from: "The Treasurer" post_id=470816 time=1660523799 user_id=3382
Impeachment doesn't mean much anymore.



Also, I think Trump will avoid prison.



He won't be re-elected, if he even runs again.  No more old fucks in office, please.

one hundred percent
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Lokmar on August 15, 2022, 01:25:52 AM
https://www.archives.gov/about/laws/appendix/12958.html



The President makes the rules when it comes to classification and declassification



The SCOTUS has reaffirmed this before.

https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=8022858120381728846&hl=en&as_sdt=6&as_vis=1&oi=scholarr



The President, after all, is the "Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States." U. S. Const., Art. II, § 2. His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security and to determine whether an individual is sufficiently trustworthy to occupy a position in the Executive Branch that will give that person access to such information flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant. See Cafeteria Workers v. McElroy, 367 U. S. 886, 890 (1961). This Court has recognized the Government's "compelling interest" in withholding national security information from unauthorized persons in the course of executive business. Snepp v. United States, 444 U. S. 507, 509, n. 3 (1980). See also United States v. Robel, 389 U. S. 258, 267 (1967); United States v. Reynolds, 345 U. S. 1, 10 (1953); Totten v. United States, 92 U. S. 105, 106 (1876). The authority to protect such information falls on the President as head of the Executive Branch and as Commander in Chief.



If anything, this has improved Trumps chances of being elected again. Mark my words, when Trump is elected to a third term, his most rabid opponents will try to invoke the 22nd Amendment.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Anonymous on August 15, 2022, 01:32:12 AM
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=470938 time=1660541152 user_id=3351
https://www.archives.gov/about/laws/appendix/12958.html



The President makes the rules when it comes to classification and declassification



The SCOTUS has reaffirmed this before.

https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=8022858120381728846&hl=en&as_sdt=6&as_vis=1&oi=scholarr



The President, after all, is the "Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States." U. S. Const., Art. II, § 2. His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security and to determine whether an individual is sufficiently trustworthy to occupy a position in the Executive Branch that will give that person access to such information flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant. See Cafeteria Workers v. McElroy, 367 U. S. 886, 890 (1961). This Court has recognized the Government's "compelling interest" in withholding national security information from unauthorized persons in the course of executive business. Snepp v. United States, 444 U. S. 507, 509, n. 3 (1980). See also United States v. Robel, 389 U. S. 258, 267 (1967); United States v. Reynolds, 345 U. S. 1, 10 (1953); Totten v. United States, 92 U. S. 105, 106 (1876). The authority to protect such information falls on the President as head of the Executive Branch and as Commander in Chief.



If anything, this has improved Trumps chances of being elected again. Mark my words, when Trump is elected to a third term, his most rabid opponents will try to invoke the 22nd Amendment.

This is all the democRATs looking for a lifeline before they get their asses handed to them in November.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Anonymous on August 15, 2022, 02:55:30 PM
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=470938 time=1660541152 user_id=3351
https://www.archives.gov/about/laws/appendix/12958.html



The President makes the rules when it comes to classification and declassification



The SCOTUS has reaffirmed this before.

https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=8022858120381728846&hl=en&as_sdt=6&as_vis=1&oi=scholarr



The President, after all, is the "Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States." U. S. Const., Art. II, § 2. His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security and to determine whether an individual is sufficiently trustworthy to occupy a position in the Executive Branch that will give that person access to such information flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant. See Cafeteria Workers v. McElroy, 367 U. S. 886, 890 (1961). This Court has recognized the Government's "compelling interest" in withholding national security information from unauthorized persons in the course of executive business. Snepp v. United States, 444 U. S. 507, 509, n. 3 (1980). See also United States v. Robel, 389 U. S. 258, 267 (1967); United States v. Reynolds, 345 U. S. 1, 10 (1953); Totten v. United States, 92 U. S. 105, 106 (1876). The authority to protect such information falls on the President as head of the Executive Branch and as Commander in Chief.



If anything, this has improved Trumps chances of being elected again. Mark my words, when Trump is elected to a third term, his most rabid opponents will try to invoke the 22nd Amendment.

Thirty million documents left the Obama White House,
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Lokmar on August 15, 2022, 03:06:13 PM
Eventually, the Republicans will become as corrupt and hateful as the democrats once they get sick and tired of the double standard. When that happens, political persecution will be the norm on BOTH sides followed swiftly by civil war.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Anonymous on August 15, 2022, 03:24:03 PM
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=471000 time=1660590373 user_id=3351
Eventually, the Republicans will become as corrupt and hateful as the democrats once they get sick and tired of the double standard. When that happens, political persecution will be the norm on BOTH sides followed swiftly by civil war.

Do you think the Republicans will try to impeach Biden if they win the November elections?
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 15, 2022, 10:27:43 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=471006 time=1660591443 user_id=2015
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=471000 time=1660590373 user_id=3351
Eventually, the Republicans will become as corrupt and hateful as the democrats once they get sick and tired of the double standard. When that happens, political persecution will be the norm on BOTH sides followed swiftly by civil war.

Do you think the Republicans will try to impeach Biden if they win the November elections?


Probably not because the Republicans are always the nice guys who don't play dirty.  ac_dunno
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 15, 2022, 10:30:10 PM
Quote from: Superchecker post_id=470811 time=1660521623 user_id=101
Will Teflon Don ever got to jail?



Or will he get re-elected in 2024?


Will Crooked ever go to jail? How about Biden and Hunter?
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Lokmar on August 16, 2022, 01:33:12 AM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=471006 time=1660591443 user_id=2015
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=471000 time=1660590373 user_id=3351
Eventually, the Republicans will become as corrupt and hateful as the democrats once they get sick and tired of the double standard. When that happens, political persecution will be the norm on BOTH sides followed swiftly by civil war.

Do you think the Republicans will try to impeach Biden if they win the November elections?


I think if they can connect him to the latest witch hunt on Trump they will. Personally, I'm hopeful they get him on the 25th Amendment.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Frood on August 16, 2022, 01:59:26 AM
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=471169 time=1660627992 user_id=3351
Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=471006 time=1660591443 user_id=2015


Do you think the Republicans will try to impeach Biden if they win the November elections?


I think if they can connect him to the latest witch hunt on Trump they will. Personally, I'm hopeful they get him on the 25th Amendment.


I don't believe there will be an American civil system left for that to happen. This is just carry over from the 1st civil war. Tit for tat just escalates and leftists are quick to seize all authority and cancel their opponents by prison or firing squad...



A lot of the Republican Party are undercover leftists as well.



Then a hundred years later we'll watch Disney movies showing Colonel AOC, Pencilneck Schiff, and Jim "Pelosi" Bowie going out in a blaze of glory as the forces of Santa Trump Anna storm Los Alamos but ultimately are defeated by the light and goodness by patriotic and mutilated transgender children.... and if you don't let the children watch it, they're coming for you....
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2022, 08:04:55 AM
The recent raid by the FBI on former President Donald Trump's residence has solidified Trump's hold on the 2024 GOP presidential nomination, according to conservatives and analysts.



The raid of Mar-a-Lago, Trump's house in Palm Beach, Florida, was aimed at preventing the former president from gaining office again, they told The Epoch Times.



If anything, however, the raid has had the opposite effect, they said, as the belief grows that Trump will announce a new presidential run sooner rather than later.



Far from providing a smoking gun that opponents of Trump may have sought to bar the former president from office, the raid has demonstrated that Trump can never be reconciled to partisan special interests in Washington that have a lock on government, thus ensuring that Trump most certainly will run, said some.





In the end, either Trump or the "deep state"—a group of powerful bureaucrats who Trump and others say really control the shots in Washington—will prevail: That's the message conservatives should take from the raid, said two people interviewed who are the most familiar with Trump's thinking, Ken Blackwell and Sebastian Gorka, although neither men claimed to represent the views of the former president.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Oliver Clotheshoffe on August 16, 2022, 05:36:38 PM
Democrats have no intention of jailing Trump because they know massive riots will be the result of it. All they're doing is keeping Trump front and center in the media hoping  that everyone forgets about how bad Joe Biden is fucking things up.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2022, 06:38:51 PM
Quote from: "Oliver Clotheshoffe" post_id=471254 time=1660685798 user_id=3349
Democrats have no intention of jailing Trump because they know massive riots will be the result of it. All they're doing is keeping Trump front and center in the media hoping  that everyone forgets about how bad Joe Biden is fucking things up.

They don't want him running again. But, that is dumb because it pretty much guarantees Ron DeSantis is the nominee. He has a better chance of winning an election against any democRAT.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Frood on August 16, 2022, 06:53:16 PM
I want Trump to win again..... just for the meltdown lulzs.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 16, 2022, 07:12:55 PM
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=471183 time=1660651495 user_id=114
The recent raid by the FBI on former President Donald Trump's residence has solidified Trump's hold on the 2024 GOP presidential nomination, according to conservatives and analysts.



The raid of Mar-a-Lago, Trump's house in Palm Beach, Florida, was aimed at preventing the former president from gaining office again, they told The Epoch Times.



If anything, however, the raid has had the opposite effect, they said, as the belief grows that Trump will announce a new presidential run sooner rather than later.



Far from providing a smoking gun that opponents of Trump may have sought to bar the former president from office, the raid has demonstrated that Trump can never be reconciled to partisan special interests in Washington that have a lock on government, thus ensuring that Trump most certainly will run, said some.





In the end, either Trump or the "deep state"—a group of powerful bureaucrats who Trump and others say really control the shots in Washington—will prevail: That's the message conservatives should take from the raid, said two people interviewed who are the most familiar with Trump's thinking, Ken Blackwell and Sebastian Gorka, although neither men claimed to represent the views of the former president.


Amen. bro. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Oerdin on August 16, 2022, 10:38:52 PM
Dems have nothing and they know it.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2022, 10:39:49 PM
Quote from: @realAzhyaAryola post_id=471271 time=1660691575 user_id=73
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=471183 time=1660651495 user_id=114
The recent raid by the FBI on former President Donald Trump's residence has solidified Trump's hold on the 2024 GOP presidential nomination, according to conservatives and analysts.



The raid of Mar-a-Lago, Trump's house in Palm Beach, Florida, was aimed at preventing the former president from gaining office again, they told The Epoch Times.



If anything, however, the raid has had the opposite effect, they said, as the belief grows that Trump will announce a new presidential run sooner rather than later.



Far from providing a smoking gun that opponents of Trump may have sought to bar the former president from office, the raid has demonstrated that Trump can never be reconciled to partisan special interests in Washington that have a lock on government, thus ensuring that Trump most certainly will run, said some.





In the end, either Trump or the "deep state"—a group of powerful bureaucrats who Trump and others say really control the shots in Washington—will prevail: That's the message conservatives should take from the raid, said two people interviewed who are the most familiar with Trump's thinking, Ken Blackwell and Sebastian Gorka, although neither men claimed to represent the views of the former president.


Amen. bro. :thumbup:

Hwy Azhya. ac_drinks
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Frood on August 16, 2022, 11:14:00 PM
Liz Cheney the cunt is out on her big fat egotistical arse!   :yahoo:
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2022, 03:58:11 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=471333 time=1660706040 user_id=1676
Liz Cheney the cunt is out on her big fat egotistical arse!   :yahoo:

 :thumbup:
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2022, 04:20:38 PM
She seems to be toying with the idea of running for president.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Frood on August 17, 2022, 04:38:45 PM
Gag...
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2022, 06:13:58 PM
Quote from: "The Treasurer" post_id=471430 time=1660767638 user_id=3382
She seems to be toying with the idea of running for president.

 :ohmy:
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2022, 06:24:16 PM
Quote from: "The Treasurer" post_id=471430 time=1660767638 user_id=3382
She seems to be toying with the idea of running for president.

She will do even worse with that than she did with her Republican primary.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2022, 06:24:40 PM
Quote from: "The Treasurer" post_id=471430 time=1660767638 user_id=3382
She seems to be toying with the idea of running for president.

She will do even worse with that than she did with her Republican primary.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 18, 2022, 06:58:31 PM
Quote from: Herman post_id=471322 time=1660703989 user_id=1689
Quote from: @realAzhyaAryola post_id=471271 time=1660691575 user_id=73




Amen. bro. :thumbup:

Hwy Azhya. ac_drinks


Hey, Man! Howdy!? ac_hithere
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2022, 08:24:03 PM
Quote from: @realAzhyaAryola post_id=471636 time=1660863511 user_id=73
Quote from: Herman post_id=471322 time=1660703989 user_id=1689


Hwy Azhya. ac_drinks


Hey, Man! Howdy!? ac_hithere

It looks like I wrote a cross between hey and howdy.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Frood on August 19, 2022, 04:03:27 AM
Wasn't Howdy Doody made of hay and plaster?
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2022, 05:04:14 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=471689 time=1660896207 user_id=1676
Wasn't Howdy Doody made of hay and plaster?

I never met him.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 26, 2022, 05:14:33 PM
Quote from: Herman post_id=471648 time=1660868643 user_id=1689
Quote from: @realAzhyaAryola post_id=471636 time=1660863511 user_id=73




Hey, Man! Howdy!? ac_hithere

It looks like I wrote a cross between hey and howdy.


 :roll:
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Frood on August 28, 2022, 01:18:02 AM
Hwy Azhya could be a roadway.....
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Herman on June 13, 2023, 08:30:12 PM
Rep. Clay Higgins (R-La.) has issued a warning to conservative Americans about "falling for the trap" if they choose to protest against former President Donald Trump's latest indictment.



Higgins, a member of the Homeland Security Committee, warned Trump supporters that the Department of Justice would like to have "J6 again," a reference to the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.



"My fellow conservatives, the DOJ/FBI doesn't expect to imprison Trump, they expect to imprison you. They want J6 again, in Miami and in your city and in mine. They want MAGA conservatives to react to this perimeter probe and in doing so, set yourselves up for targeted persecution and further entrapment," Higgins said in a statement on June 11.





"They want to intercept a busload of conservatives en route to protest and create conflicts during the stop. They are hoping to provoke conservative Americans. Don't fall for the trap. Maintain your family. Live your life. Live free and pay close attention and make your voice heard," Higgins added.



"Don't become an incarcerated pawn in the agenda driven DOJ/FBI strategy to oppress conservatives across America."



Trump arrived in Miami on June 12, one day before his scheduled appearance in federal court, where he will be arraigned on federal charges. The former president faces a total of 37 felony counts over his handling of documents at his Mar-a-Lago resort, including violating the federal Espionage Act and other federal statutes for allegedly making false statements, concealing documents, and conspiring to obstruct justice.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Herman on June 13, 2023, 08:43:23 PM
Jim Crow Joe is more unpopular than Donald Trump was at the same stage in his presidency, according to a comparison of polling data conducted by political analytics website FiveThirtyEight.



The website gave Biden a net approval rating of -14.6 percent on June 11, notably lower than the -10.9 percent Trump recorded the same number of days into his administration.



The FiveThirtyEight study also shows Biden is less popular following 874 days in the White House than all other post-war U.S. presidents, with the sole exception of Jimmy Carter. Just 41 percent of voters approve of the incumbent's performance at this stage in the electoral cycle, versus 42.3 percent for President Trump, 47.4 percent for Barack Obama and 61.5 for George W. Bush. Carter was significantly less popular than any other president 874 days into his administration, with an approval rating of just 28.8 percent.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Oerdin on June 14, 2023, 03:49:18 AM
My guess is Trump will get convicted on 4-5 counts on the south Florida document case.  These will probably get thrown out eventually on appeal to the Supreme Court but it won't matter as corrupt Democrats, their primary goal is to influence the 2024 election, so when Trump is exonerated it will be to late.



Trump repeals independents so he is a losing candidate.  Either Republicans nominate DeSantis or they lose in 2024.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: DKG on June 14, 2023, 10:27:40 AM
Quote from: Oerdin post_id=503316 time=1686728958 user_id=3374
My guess is Trump will get convicted on 4-5 counts on the south Florida document case.  These will probably get thrown out eventually on appeal to the Supreme Court but it won't matter as corrupt Democrats, their primary goal is to influence the 2024 election, so when Trump is exonerated it will be to late.



Trump repeals independents so he is a losing candidate.  Either Republicans nominate DeSantis or they lose in 2024.

Trump is likely to get convicted on at least one count, but the verdict may not be reached before the election. And it if it happens before the election and he won, he could pardon himself.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: DKG on June 14, 2023, 10:37:27 AM
How this works.



The indictment of former President Donald Trump for holding military documents and obstructing the government from taking them is built on a novel legal theory that has multiple weaknesses, according to several lawyers and other experts.



The case has been portrayed in the media as being about Trump's retaining classified documents from his presidency. However, the charges sidestep that issue and instead use a clause in the Espionage Act that criminalizes a failure to hand over national defense information. The indictment further alleges that Trump and staffer Waltine Nauta hid some documents when the government demanded them through a subpoena.



The alleged Espionage Act violations impose a high burden of proof and raise the question of whether the statute should have been applied to begin with and, if not, whether the underlying investigation should serve as a basis for obstruction charges.





"The key legal issue here is the interplay between the Presidential Records Act and the Espionage Act," said Will Scharf, a former federal prosecutor.



The Presidential Records Act of 1978 stipulates that after a president leaves office, the National Archive and Records Administration (NARA) takes custody of all his official records.



The law allows former presidents to keep personal documents such as "diaries, journals, or other personal notes" not used for government business.



"If a former President or Vice President finds Presidential records among personal materials, he or she is expected to contact NARA in a timely manner to secure the transfer of those Presidential records to NARA," NARA's website states.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Thiel on June 14, 2023, 12:27:15 PM
I am in the United States right now. Opinions on Donald Trump's indictment are polarized. Democrats believe he should have been indicted. They also believe Biden and Clinton should not even though they did the same thing. Republicans, on the other hand believe the sitting president is abusing his office to eliminate his main political opponent.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Thiel on June 14, 2023, 12:29:46 PM
Trump faces 37 counts of criminal charges, 31 of which relate to the Espionage Act. Any conviction will be on the charges unrelated to the Espionage Act.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Oliver Clotheshoffe on June 14, 2023, 03:06:35 PM
What democrat idiots don't realize is all this court stuff is only serving to make Trump appear even more badass than he already is. If he does somehow go to prison his street cred will go through the roof. Nobody is going to support feeble old Joe over Badass Don.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Oerdin on June 14, 2023, 04:46:11 PM
Quote from: DKG post_id=503333 time=1686752860 user_id=3390
Quote from: Oerdin post_id=503316 time=1686728958 user_id=3374
My guess is Trump will get convicted on 4-5 counts on the south Florida document case.  These will probably get thrown out eventually on appeal to the Supreme Court but it won't matter as corrupt Democrats, their primary goal is to influence the 2024 election, so when Trump is exonerated it will be to late.



Trump repeals independents so he is a losing candidate.  Either Republicans nominate DeSantis or they lose in 2024.

Trump is likely to get convicted on at least one count, but the verdict may not be reached before the election. And it if it happens before the election and he won, he could pardon himself.


True but Trump won't win.  Independents hate him and Trump is about the only candidate brain dead Joe can beat.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Herman on June 14, 2023, 07:21:21 PM
Quote from: "Oliver Clotheshoffe" post_id=503351 time=1686769595 user_id=3349
What democrat idiots don't realize is all this court stuff is only serving to make Trump appear even more badass than he already is. If he does somehow go to prison his street cred will go through the roof. Nobody is going to support feeble old Joe over Badass Don.

It aint hurting him raising cash either.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Herman on June 14, 2023, 07:22:47 PM
Quote from: Oerdin post_id=503352 time=1686775571 user_id=3374
Quote from: DKG post_id=503333 time=1686752860 user_id=3390


Trump is likely to get convicted on at least one count, but the verdict may not be reached before the election. And it if it happens before the election and he won, he could pardon himself.


True but Trump won't win.  Independents hate him and Trump is about the only candidate brain dead Joe can beat.

Trump will lose again if he is the nominee. And unless he is convicted, he will be the nominee.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Lokmar on June 14, 2023, 09:33:04 PM
Quote from: Herman post_id=503363 time=1686784967 user_id=3396
Quote from: Oerdin post_id=503352 time=1686775571 user_id=3374




True but Trump won't win.  Independents hate him and Trump is about the only candidate brain dead Joe can beat.

Trump will lose again if he is the nominee. And unless he is convicted, he will be the nominee.


He didnt lose in 2020.



Anyway, Part of me hopes the country spirals into civil war.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: DKG on June 15, 2023, 09:38:31 AM
A significant amount of the indictment against former President Donald Trump is based on attorney-client communications which are protected under U.S. law and will likely lead to a long and drawn-out legal battle in the months ahead, according to legal experts.



Trump has been charged with 31 counts of willful retention of national defense information; one count of conspiracy to obstruct justice, one count of withholding a document or record, one count of scheme to conceal, one count of corruptly concealing a document or record, one count of concealing a document in a federal investigation, and one count of false statements and representations.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Lokmar on June 15, 2023, 10:29:28 AM
As I predicted long ago:



An ex-GOP Florida congressman who opposed Trump says DeSantis would be 'far more dangerous' if elected president



https://www.businessinsider.com/desantis-far-more-dangerous-than-trump-ex-gop-congressman-2023-5?op=1



Anyway, Trump will never see the inside of a prison. Well, not unless the left wants to be butchered in the streets.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Lokmar on June 15, 2023, 10:37:05 AM
Side note: After watching the cunts on the view rail on about DeSantis, I've concluded they should all be forced to become the wives of wife beating Saudi's.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: DKG on June 15, 2023, 10:38:25 AM
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=503445 time=1686839825 user_id=3351
Side note: After watching the cunts on the view rail on about DeSantis, I've concluded they should all be forced to become the wives of wife beating Saudi's.

And move there.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Herman on June 15, 2023, 07:37:34 PM
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=503396 time=1686792784 user_id=3351
Quote from: Herman post_id=503363 time=1686784967 user_id=3396


Trump will lose again if he is the nominee. And unless he is convicted, he will be the nominee.


He didnt lose in 2020.



Anyway, Part of me hopes the country spirals into civil war.

How much can working class folks take from prog elites in government, media, academia, and industry dictating to them.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Adolf Oliver Bush on June 17, 2023, 06:33:24 AM
Quote from: DKG post_id=503333 time=1686752860 user_id=3390
Quote from: Oerdin post_id=503316 time=1686728958 user_id=3374
My guess is Trump will get convicted on 4-5 counts on the south Florida document case.  These will probably get thrown out eventually on appeal to the Supreme Court but it won't matter as corrupt Democrats, their primary goal is to influence the 2024 election, so when Trump is exonerated it will be to late.



Trump repeals independents so he is a losing candidate.  Either Republicans nominate DeSantis or they lose in 2024.

Trump is likely to get convicted on at least one count, but the verdict may not be reached before the election. And it if it happens before the election and he won, he could pardon himself.

You saw what Vivek did I take it?





https://www.bitchute.com/video/f0O0LQjYIAD3/





You're wrong about DeSantis by the way. Look, I know you have a boner for him and all, but I'm telling you flat-out: if the Republicans nominate him, they lose 2024 when vast swathes of the MAGA crowd write in Trump on their ballots. You will have another four years of Biden being shuffled about, or if the best drugs money can buy aren't sufficient to keep his corporeal form in front of the cameras, some Butt-gig level incompetent in his stead.



As Reznor sang some thirty years ago "bow down before the one you serve, you're going to get what you deserve".
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: DKG on June 17, 2023, 09:17:37 AM
QuoteYou saw what Vivek did I take it?

Yes, I did.




QuoteYou're wrong about DeSantis by the way. Look, I know you have a boner for him and all, but I'm telling you flat-out: if the Republicans nominate him, they lose 2024 when vast swathes of the MAGA crowd write in Trump on their ballots. You will have another four years of Biden being shuffled about, or if the best drugs money can buy aren't sufficient to keep his corporeal form in front of the cameras, some Butt-gig level incompetent in his stead.

I am not very confident about a GOP win with either of them. Trump has a problem with independents and Trump's supporters might stay away if the nominee is anybody other than Trump.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Lokmar on June 17, 2023, 11:01:08 AM
The normies are pissed. We want Trump to smash the system. No milquetoast republican will do either. Everyone other than Trump and DeSantis is a spineless RINO.
Title: Re: Will Trump ever go to jail? Or get re-elected?
Post by: Adolf Oliver Bush on June 17, 2023, 12:30:59 PM
Quote from: DKG post_id=503576 time=1687007857 user_id=3390
QuoteYou saw what Vivek did I take it?

Yes, I did.




QuoteYou're wrong about DeSantis by the way. Look, I know you have a boner for him and all, but I'm telling you flat-out: if the Republicans nominate him, they lose 2024 when vast swathes of the MAGA crowd write in Trump on their ballots. You will have another four years of Biden being shuffled about, or if the best drugs money can buy aren't sufficient to keep his corporeal form in front of the cameras, some Butt-gig level incompetent in his stead.

I am not very confident about a GOP win with either of them. Trump has a problem with independents and Trump's supporters might stay away if the nominee is anybody other than Trump.

"Might"?



Look to historical account, specifically the shenanigans of the 2016 "steal" that Hillary supporters thought they had in the bag after railroading Bernie Sanders out of the nomination. A lot of very pissed off Bernie Bros who had gravitated towards his platform from the independent and swing voters jumped ship. And we know where a lot of them jumped, for all the "blue no matter who" hectoring and swatting attempts, a great number of them said "fuck the left, I'm outta here". I know because I was one of them.



And Bernie had brought around 15% of that base over to the Dems. That's a sizeable whack of votes. Coupled with the gross missampling biases inherent in an outdated polling methodology and a dogmatic faith in the power of a bought and paid for legacy media, Hillary's gang were convinced they had it in the bag. Hell, I thought they had it in the bag, there being no truly independent commentators that I knew of at the time to highlight what wasn't being said on the usual outlets. And I really did not enjoy the prospect of Clinton enjoying a 4 year run, let alone 8. Especially not after her open admission that she had one story for the voting public and another for the donor class. No points for guessing whose interests she was planning to serve, it sure as hell wasn't about to be yours or mine. Well, not unless you're insanely richer than you let on and are in the habit of buying your favours from her foetid part of the swamp.



We are watching a similar scenario play out now. Trump scares the powerbrokers of the left, you need only look to all the effort they are going to to divide the electorate. They want a safe candidate who can be influenced even if they cannot beat him. That's why they are going all out in the attempt to make sure that anyone BUT Trump is the nominee. They cannot abide another four years under a president that put the skids on their corrupt money laundering operations. We are being sold the same line that he cannot do it, the exact same fiction as we were sold in 2016 and frankly, it rather seems like they have done a bloody good job of brainwashing a good deal of the right into thinking that Trump is a liability in spite of his overwhelming in-party support. Not to mention him being six percentage points ahead of Biden if memory serves, at least according to the aggregate. It's going to take an awful lot of rigged Dominion machines and cured ballots to get out ahead of that, potentially even a bullet or two. I wouldn't put any of it past them.



Why would you listen to the vested interests of your political opposition who have been fucking you over a barrel for all these years? You have only to look at all the times they've lied openly to you in the past. Russiagate, Pissgate, the pretense of him being a warmongering fuckhead who was going to bankrupt the country, lie to the people and rig elections... all things they accused him of doing with no evidence to back up their stories before proceeding to do exactly what they accused him of.



They know they can rely on their core support, the partisans that would vote for anything with a D after its name. But it's not enough, hence why they astroturfed DeSantis long before he ever announced his run and why they are selling his attempts to curtail free speech and all but eliminate the middle class and small business owners as being a "good thing". I wouldn't vote for the guy, he might have done some amazing things for Florida, but that is one state out of fifty and last I heard, Trump was out-polling him there too.



But hey, conservatives have traditionally been good at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory before. Why wouldn't they disappoint us all by living up to the same up-to shit example they're famous for?