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Title: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Dove on October 25, 2022, 01:59:27 PM
Last night.



 My 17 year old decided to take a walk as the sun was going down.  She does this sometimes.



 She was over by an internet provider building over by the woods ....very close to our house (it's a very small building). She was back there taking pictures and a man in a silver car stopped....got out of the car, approached her, said "hey" and reached out towards her shoulders.



 So she pepper sprayed him in the face twice and kicked him in the gut as hard she could, punched him a few times and than she ran home.



 And she came home crying, went to her room and didnt want to talk about it.  This isnt weird for her. When shes upset about something she normally goes to cry it out alone and when shes ready, she comes and tells me. So...I didnt push her and I carried on with my chores.



 This incident happened around 7:30/8pm and she didnt tell me until midnightish.



 I cant report this to the police. Because if I do....I could spend 90 days in jail because my daughter isnt old enough to have pepper spray.  I'm not even kidding. Look up the pepper spray laws in my fucking state.  



 We thought about just not telling the police about the pepper spray. Saying she was able to kick him and run. The problem is there is a video camera on that side of the building and she has no idea if the camera was able to pick the incident up.



 Shouldnt the fact it could be recorded be a GOOD fucking thing?  But no it isnt because my daughter and myself could end up in trouble over the fucking pepper spray even though it could have saved her LIFE. WHAT IF it didnt work or she didnt have it?  Today would be a much different day because my daughter would be GONE.



 Had she told us right away, no doubt my husband would have ran down there and you know that man wasnt able to drive away right away after taking so much pepper spray to the face.  



 She is still really upset and she doesnt want to talk to police and she says she cant remember much detail about him because it was getting dark and it happened so fast. She said he had a grey zipped up hoodie and looked to be in his late 40s. White or Hispanic. That's all shes got. Her hands are swollen and her knuckles are tore up. Shes in bed not feeling well and shes downcast.



 So now what the fuck?  I should be able to scream this from the rooftops and report it to police and warn the whole neighborhood but I cant because I'm afraid my of daughter getting in trouble because she had pepper spray. I guess 16 and 17 year olds are supposed to go die or just get raped and if they live....the cops might process the rape kit and act on it.



 I fucking hate democrats. I swear they force us to be victims. And now I totally understand why people dont always report instances of self defense where they had to use a weapon.



 She is no longer permitting to walk around off our land past 5pm. And shes getting a new pepper spray because she unloaded ALL of it in that demons face. And I hope she busted his fucking spleen. Her legs are STRONG and shes always been a bruiser.  Shes not a tiny delicate flower....this girl is solid muscle and gets retard strength when shes pissed.  She beat up one of Bigs sons when she was 4 and he was tormenting her. (Big took her side btw and told them if they are gonna torment the girls dont cry for help of they bring it lol).



 And fuck yes I was mad she didnt tell us IMMEDIATELY.  Fucking ANYTHING else yeah....go get yourself centered and tell me when you are ready.  But something like this we need to know asap. My husband and I could have killed him. And now we cant.  



 My daughters should be able to carry guns. She cant even carry pepper spray. Now that shes used it we cant even report what happened.



 And she even feels bad because she says she wasnt sure what he wanted and shes worried he was just some person who was going to ask something innocent. But he reached out to grab or otherwise touch her so she did the perfect right thing.



 I still want to take my chances with police and just lie about the pepper spray but she gets hysterical and my husband said a firm "No" and I have to listen to him.

 

 So yeah that happened. Right out here in the country.  ac_crying  



 I'm trying to carry on with our day as normal but my anxiety is so jacked up and everytime I hear a car I'm looking at it.  



 We are law abiding citizens who pay our taxes, respect and care for our communities who treat others with respect and kindness. And my daughter has no civil rights.  I wouldnt give a shit if it were just ME that would get in trouble and go do 90 stupid days in jail. I mean I'd rather not....I have to take care of my family. But my daughter would blame herself and she can also be sent to jail.  Its WRONG. This is an unjust law.



 And now there is a pervert psychopath cruising around (or a retard with bad judgement) who tried to grab a woman/girl and its gonna go unreported.



 I'm going to post it in our community FB page and say my daughter ran before he got close to her just so I can warn my neighbors.  I've already warned my "bonus kids"(those kids with the CPS case that come over here all the time....they walk here...now I want them to text me to get them when they want to be here).



 I hate the Michigan government. Tell me how this shit is right or fair?
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Blazor on October 25, 2022, 02:05:44 PM
Good on her for acting swiftly!



The Constitution is the law of the land, and a person's right to bear arms shall not be infringed. Arms is lots of things, used for defense.



If I was ever in some kind of situation like that, I would say I had my permit, and pull the Constitution out my back pocket lol.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Dove on October 25, 2022, 02:41:10 PM
Quote from: Blazor post_id=478522 time=1666721144 user_id=2221
Good on her for acting swiftly!



The Constitution is the law of the land, and a person's right to bear arms shall not be infringed. Arms is lots of things, used for defense.



If I was ever in some kind of situation like that, I would say I had my permit, and pull the Constitution out my back pocket lol.


 Its vile and disgusting bullshit that we pay taxes to a government that punishes innocent people for defending themselves against shit like this.



 "Oh a kidnapper?  Good luck kid. Too bad you arent 18 and can use a weapon to protect yourself. Godspeed"



 Shes suffering the aftermath of adrenaline. We were up until 4am. Now she doesnt feel good :(
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Blazor on October 25, 2022, 02:51:59 PM
Quote from: Dove post_id=478526 time=1666723270 user_id=3266
Quote from: Blazor post_id=478522 time=1666721144 user_id=2221
Good on her for acting swiftly!



The Constitution is the law of the land, and a person's right to bear arms shall not be infringed. Arms is lots of things, used for defense.



If I was ever in some kind of situation like that, I would say I had my permit, and pull the Constitution out my back pocket lol.


 Its vile and disgusting bullshit that we pay taxes to a government that punishes innocent people for defending themselves against shit like this.



 "Oh a kidnapper?  Good luck kid. Too bad you arent 18 and can use a weapon to protect yourself. Godspeed"



 Shes suffering the aftermath of adrenaline. We were up until 4am. Now she doesnt feel good :(


Nah, it aint right at all.



Thats like the bear story. I asked a Ranger what I should do. He said fuck it, carry a gun, at least you'll survive, and face 12 jurors, instead of 6 paw bearers.



Awww poor girl. Prolly nerves got her body screwed up.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Dove on October 25, 2022, 03:06:34 PM
Quote from: Blazor post_id=478529 time=1666723919 user_id=2221
Quote from: Dove post_id=478526 time=1666723270 user_id=3266




 Its vile and disgusting bullshit that we pay taxes to a government that punishes innocent people for defending themselves against shit like this.



 "Oh a kidnapper?  Good luck kid. Too bad you arent 18 and can use a weapon to protect yourself. Godspeed"



 Shes suffering the aftermath of adrenaline. We were up until 4am. Now she doesnt feel good :(


Nah, it aint right at all.



Thats like the bear story. I asked a Ranger what I should do. He said fuck it, carry a gun, at least you'll survive, and face 12 jurors, instead of 6 paw bearers.



Awww poor girl. Prolly nerves got her body screwed up.


 Shes tired, sick to her stomach, her hand is all swelled and knuckles are skinned.  Her knee where she kneed him in the abdomen is bruised....she must have got him in the ribs and I hope she broke a few of his ribs.



 I told her to write down every detail as she starts recalling it.  



 I do enjoy the fact that she basically beat the piss out of him.



 This pepper spray law is bullshit and needs to change. Michigan allows kids as young as 13 to get abortions, birth control and puberty blockers all without parental knowledge.  But my daughter uses pepper spray for self defense and we cant report it because we could get in trouble



 Seriously what the fucking fuck.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Aryan on October 25, 2022, 03:45:30 PM
Damn, predatory fucks everywhere nowadays, it seems.



Hope your daughter recovers soon from this traumatic experience, Dove.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Oliver Clotheshoffe on October 25, 2022, 04:11:57 PM
Tell you daughter we all congratulate her for KICKING ASS!!!!!!  Good job!  :thumbup:





Best thing you could do is get a dog and have her take it with her when she goes out for a walk. Most men will think twice when they see a dog.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Dove on October 25, 2022, 04:17:51 PM
My husband is getting another pepper spray because she seriously unloaded the entire container on this fuckhead.



 And now he wants her to have a knife as well.



 Of course I support this.



 And yeah.....the fact my daughter beat the fuck out of a predatory male in under 5 minutes does make me pretty proud. It still terrifies me that it even happened.



 Bet he thought she was gonna be an easy victim. I hope he has broken ribs and his eyes are fucked up. Better still if he had an allergic reaction to the spray and died.



 I was wondering if he went to the hospital. What would he say though? That he got into a fight with a little girl after dark?
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: JOE on October 25, 2022, 05:04:37 PM
The United States of Americs sure is a violent place Dove.



Yer daughter oughta spend time in a more laid back locale like Vancouver Canada. At least 1/2 the men are as gay as Blurt & the other 1/2 are stoned 90% of the time. She'd be much safer here.



But for safe measure she could always huddle into one of our public sanctuary sites.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Dove on October 25, 2022, 05:14:40 PM
Quote from: JOE post_id=478540 time=1666731877 user_id=97
The United States of Americs sure is a violent place Dove.



Yer daughter oughta spend time in a more laid back locale like Vancouver Canada. At least 1/2 the men are as gay as Blurt & the other 1/2 are stoned 90% of the time. She'd be much safer here.



But for safe measure she could always huddle into one of our public sanctuary sites.


 It's not safe in any location where you be charged for self defense.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Dove on October 25, 2022, 05:15:57 PM
The crime rate is higher there Joe than it is here in my area



 https://www.numbeo.com/crime/in/Vancouver



 For safety measures she should be able to avoid crowds and have a gun. Or at least be able to use some fucking pepper spray without fear of us getting in trouble.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Dove on October 25, 2022, 05:41:29 PM
Quote from: "Oliver Clotheshoffe" post_id=478537 time=1666728717 user_id=3349
Tell you daughter we all congratulate her for KICKING ASS!!!!!!  Good job!  :thumbup:





Best thing you could do is get a dog and have her take it with her when she goes out for a walk. Most men will think twice when they see a dog.


 She says thanks  :thumbup:



 My daughters are savages. I wasnt kidding when I've said that lol.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2022, 10:33:30 PM
so they are so hardcore and savages? wow turn all the clocks back a thousand or so years. fuck em your kids will eventually be killed by bullets... and oh your revenge won't matter in the real world. your kids will be dead by niggers that don't give a fuck. wake the fuck up wannabe nigger. they won't rest in peace as those niggers will fuck your daughters corpses for giggles alone. bye KID.. and your responses prove your kid more than your actual KIDS.. kid. they actually think they got more balls than you ever had and you KNOW that ain't true. if you don't by now after all these years you deserve worse of an end then your wannabe thugs. YOU KNOW YOU HAD WORSE... they haven't had one hard day in their lives. WAKE THEM UP WHILE YOU CAN or the niggers will kill them. YOU HAD IT AND WILL HAVE IT HARDER THAN ANY OF THEM SCUMBAGS



Fucking worthless kids. WE ALL HAD IT HARDER. fuck them kids of yours or anybody elses. THEY WILL NEVER KNOW HARDSHIP.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Dove on October 25, 2022, 10:41:25 PM
Since when can guests post in the Flea trap?



 Guuuuuyyyss......clean up alert!  Ole Frankenshitdick is bleeding in muh threads
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Dove on October 26, 2022, 11:51:00 AM
Her hand looks much better today. Still puffy but not nearly as bad as it was. It looks good now but this looked horrible a day ago.



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 And Raven I know it. We did end up reporting it to police and in posted it in the community group but i said the guy got out of the car, approached my daughter and she ran. I didnt go into her physically fighting him.



 There is a guy who moved to this town 4 months ago....he is in a house like 5 or 6 miles from here...he is a convicted pedophile predator who was released from Jackson prison this year.  According to some people in the town he has friends over all the time and there is a silver car that comes there



 NO IDEA if it's the same silver car.  So I'm not making accusations or saying it's absolutely this guy.  People started bringing this up after I posted it was man in a silver car.  The road he was on when he stopped and went after my daughter is the road you would have to be on to go down to town (where the prison guy lives).



 I guess a bunch of people here have been trying to get this guy removed from that house on the basis there are children and his crime was pretty gnarly.  A whole thing I didnt even know about.



 Either way....we are definately watching for this. I thought about taking her past there to see if she recognizes any of the cars.  



 And then I can start slashing tires and cutting break lines.  :evilthoughts2:
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Oliver Clotheshoffe on October 26, 2022, 05:32:57 PM
IMHO don't let your daughter carry a knife, too much chance it will be taken and used against her.



Get a dog. A big, mean, ugly, very hungry dog.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Dove on October 26, 2022, 07:25:43 PM
Quote from: "Oliver Clotheshoffe" post_id=478699 time=1666819977 user_id=3349
IMHO don't let your daughter carry a knife, too much chance it will be taken and used against her.



Get a dog. A big, mean, ugly, very hungry dog.


 We are planning on getting a service dog. Not while we live here though....too small of a space when we have 11 cats.



 And two guinea pigs.



 And a lionhead rabbit.



 And two tree frogs lol.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Oliver Clotheshoffe on October 26, 2022, 10:54:48 PM
Damn and I can barely handle my one cat   ac_crying
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Frood on October 27, 2022, 06:36:53 AM
Quote from: "Oliver Clotheshoffe" post_id=478699 time=1666819977 user_id=3349
IMHO don't let your daughter carry a knife, too much chance it will be taken and used against her.



Get a dog. A big, mean, ugly, very hungry dog.


Unless they haven't already gotten in somebody to train her on slash and thrust points...



Please don't rehash Californian Lib points....
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Blazor on October 27, 2022, 09:23:43 AM
Same I was always taught, dont carry a knife unless you know how to use it, or the attacker can take it from you.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Dove on October 27, 2022, 11:51:34 AM
Guys my daughters can use knives. And swords.  Believe she would FUCK someone up with a knife if she had to.



 She just doesnt want to have to is all.  She doesnt want to let a rapist get close enough but then....she just had one get close enough where she had to throw hands so...yeah.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Trump’s Niece on October 27, 2022, 07:38:05 PM
I'd have went and reported it anyway. That man is gonna strike again.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Dove on October 27, 2022, 08:33:41 PM
Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=478817 time=1666913885 user_id=2845
I'd have went and reported it anyway. That man is gonna strike again.


 We did.



 We just left out the part where she pepper sprayed him until the container was empty, punched him twice and kneed him in the ribs.



 We said he got out of his car and came towards her and she ran.



 She is MUCH better today.  Squish is at Babbas for the night....so her and I went for a 2 mile long walk and it was nice. She was jumpy but it was good  :thumbup:
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Odinson on October 28, 2022, 03:38:40 PM
If you are gonna go with swords...



Wear an armor too for extra protection.



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Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: JOE on October 29, 2022, 02:33:03 PM
I wonder if Dove is teaching her daughters to hate men.



We're not all beasts, Dove.



Heck I live on an apartment floor where 90% of the other tenants are young White women in their 20s.



We get along just fine. I dunno. I leave them alone & there've been no incidents or complaints. There are some real young hotties living on my floor.



Your daughter would be safe where I live, Dove.

She wouldn't need mace, weapons or pepper spray in my building.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Dove on October 29, 2022, 04:47:03 PM
Wow.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: JOE on October 29, 2022, 04:52:52 PM
Quote from: Dove post_id=479047 time=1667076423 user_id=3266Wow.


You must have grown up in a bad neighborhood or environment to feel as traumatized as you are Dove.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: kooch on October 29, 2022, 10:57:05 PM
Should buy her a gun.



Glad she did end up the topic of a low rent Nexflix doco in 15 years time.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Dove on October 30, 2022, 01:37:47 AM
Quote from: kooch post_id=479080 time=1667098625 user_id=3187
Should buy her a gun.



Glad she did end up the topic of a low rent Nexflix doco in 15 years time.


 We have guns...but MI requires you to be 21 to carry.



 She can have rifles and all that just not any hand guns to carry around. Which I think is bullshit. My oldest cant carry for another two years and shell be working in a bad area eventually. Hopefully she wont until she can carry.



 And yeah....me too! My kid handled that nightmare perfectly!
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Dove on October 30, 2022, 01:46:41 AM
Quote from: JOE post_id=479048 time=1667076772 user_id=97
Quote from: Dove post_id=479047 time=1667076423 user_id=3266Wow.


You must have grown up in a bad neighborhood or environment to feel as traumatized as you are Dove.


 Well Joe I've said many time I grew up in Metro Detroit and am a rape survivor.



 However.....I'm not the one here afraid of dangerous America and talking like I need to move for safety. Statistically, my family is more likely to experience a violent crime in your area.....your crime rates are higher.



 Not that I'm concerned about the crime rates in your area vs mine....you are concerned about that.



 And you took a huge leap from that to wondering if me and my HUSBAND are teaching our daughters to hate men and how evidently I sound traumatized and like I hate men.....which is really off the fucking bean here. Especially since the vast majority of my "board buddies" are males and I dont think any of the males I openly communicate with here are feeling misunderstood by a traumatized woman who hates them when they interact with me.



 I mean you are free to put it up to a poll. Should prove amusing.



 Are you on drugs, Joe? Are you drunk? Because I dont even know how that's attached to this topic.



 Are saying you are wondering if my daughter was taught to hate men because she peppered sprayed, punched (twice) and kneed one in the ribs because he was a stranger who got out of a car and tried to grab her?
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Frood on October 30, 2022, 01:53:11 AM
Dove has always been sweet with me....



(Aside from the many years before where we messed with each other)...  :43(2):
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: JOE on October 30, 2022, 02:46:55 AM
Quote from: Dove post_id=479111 time=1667108801 user_id=3266
Quote from: JOE post_id=479048 time=1667076772 user_id=97




You must have grown up in a bad neighborhood or environment to feel as traumatized as you are Dove.


 Well Joe I've said many time I grew up in Metro Detroit and am a rape survivor.



 However.....I'm not the one here afraid of dangerous America and talking like I need to move for safety. Statistically, my family is more likely to experience a violent crime in your area.....your crime rates are higher.



 Not that I'm concerned about the crime rates in your area vs mine....you are concerned about that.



 And you took a huge leap from that to wondering if me and my HUSBAND are teaching our daughters to hate men and how evidently I sound traumatized and like I hate men.....which is really off the fucking bean here. Especially since the vast majority of my "board buddies" are males and I dont think any of the males I openly communicate with here are feeling misunderstood by a traumatized woman who hates them when they interact with me.



 I mean you are free to put it up to a poll. Should prove amusing.



 Are you on drugs, Joe? Are you drunk? Because I dont even know how that's attached to this topic.



 Are saying you are wondering if my daughter was taught to hate men because she peppered sprayed, punched (twice) and kneed one in the ribs because he was a stranger who got out of a car and tried to grab her?


Hey Dove when someone sexually assaults a woman & you're trying to save them this is what it feels like:



https://youtu.be/4nSkJZ3i2-g



I thought that it portrays it very well.



I still remember how that kid was trying to tear off that womans blouse and bra off. He was trying to grab her breasts and he tore her necklace off.  And I had to grab his hands off of her. Just think if I hadnt been there eh? Or it was another helpless woman being assaulted to.



I think you always think the worst of men and that we arent of acts of kindness or salvation. Trouble is we rarely get credit. We're expected to fight for women and to protect you.



But youre wrong in your perceptions. Just sayin.



Anyways thats why I quit that job. It was rather traumatic that experience.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Frood on October 30, 2022, 04:50:33 AM
90 percent of rapists are men..... 10 percent of female rapists are completely fucked in the head.



I say this as a father, Joe.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Dove on October 30, 2022, 11:01:42 AM
Quote from: JOE post_id=479119 time=1667112415 user_id=97
Quote from: Dove post_id=479111 time=1667108801 user_id=3266




 Well Joe I've said many time I grew up in Metro Detroit and am a rape survivor.



 However.....I'm not the one here afraid of dangerous America and talking like I need to move for safety. Statistically, my family is more likely to experience a violent crime in your area.....your crime rates are higher.



 Not that I'm concerned about the crime rates in your area vs mine....you are concerned about that.



 And you took a huge leap from that to wondering if me and my HUSBAND are teaching our daughters to hate men and how evidently I sound traumatized and like I hate men.....which is really off the fucking bean here. Especially since the vast majority of my "board buddies" are males and I dont think any of the males I openly communicate with here are feeling misunderstood by a traumatized woman who hates them when they interact with me.



 I mean you are free to put it up to a poll. Should prove amusing.



 Are you on drugs, Joe? Are you drunk? Because I dont even know how that's attached to this topic.



 Are saying you are wondering if my daughter was taught to hate men because she peppered sprayed, punched (twice) and kneed one in the ribs because he was a stranger who got out of a car and tried to grab her?


Hey Dove when someone sexually assaults a woman & you're trying to save them this is what it feels like:



https://youtu.be/4nSkJZ3i2-g



I thought that it portrays it very well.



I still remember how that kid was trying to tear off that womans blouse and bra off. He was trying to grab her breasts and he tore her necklace off.  And I had to grab his hands off of her. Just think if I hadnt been there eh? Or it was another helpless woman being assaulted to.



I think you always think the worst of men and that we arent of acts of kindness or salvation. Trouble is we rarely get credit. We're expected to fight for women and to protect you.



But youre wrong in your perceptions. Just sayin.



Anyways thats why I quit that job. It was rather traumatic that experience.


 Joe...NO ONE save ME when I was being attacked. So I do not have to "imagine" what would have happened had you not stepped into that. I LIVED it. I have a huge scar on the back of my head where I had 34 stiches....so I'm marred for life.



 What I only imagine is the opposite. Who would I be today had that NOT happened? I'll never know. Because I got to go through the rest of my youth and life with war vet level PTSD.  



 I'm not some innocent pretty thing who skips around this world delusional of its safety.....nor am I paranoid constantly afraid of danger.



 Where are you in your head here where this thread has made you feel attacked as a man? I dont think it's my perceptions you are responding to here.



 Do I fear men? No and yes. I dont put myself into situations where I'm vulnerable to a male I dont know. That doesnt mean I "fear men". It means bad men exist....and every male on this planet who loves a woman, be it his wife/daughter/mother/sisters and fear friends will be the first to tell you that what concerns them is the danger of other men.  There are piece of shit men. And the reason they are more of a concern is because I cant just fight one off.  A woman I can stand a chance with. A man? They are too physically strong for a female.



 My daughters saving grace was that pepper spray, if she hadn't been to unload that whole container in his face this would have turned out differently.  He was still grabbing at her even after she nailed him with it.



 It would be pretty fucked up if I just hated men because I'm married to one and as i pointed out....all my "forum buddies" are GUYS. And Flea.  



 People are not monolith, Joe. You are trying to simplify something here that cant be simplified.



 Are you aware that men commit the vast amount of violent crime not just against women....but against other men? In fact, men are the victims of male on male violence MORE than women are the victims of male violence.  You are statistically more likely to be harmed or murdered by another man.  



 Judge people and situations wisely.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Dove on October 30, 2022, 11:30:53 AM
When I say things like "men are more violent than women".....I'm not ripping on men or espousing misandrist views. I'm also not saying I fear or hate men.



 It's a simple FACT.



 You have more testosterone. Men are more aggressive on every level. More competitive. Men play all the rough sports and they generally blossom in all the competitive jobs. Men are more sexual and sexually aggressive.  This is natural for healthy men.



 And with GOOD men (which I'll say is most men or close to most men.....at least as far as the working and middle class ranks....once you get into the very wealthy and very poor, you start to see some pathology and undesirable traits and a potential for danger).  



 Take from this what you will.  Men also are more likely to use lethal force.....even against themselves in suicide. Men are more violent even in suicide. That's why we see men and women both attempt suicide at mostly the same rate.....but men will succeed more frequently.



 Women will wish an easy death where they fall asleep and that's that. Leave a pretty corpse. Men will blow their brains all over the walls.



 This is why the gender cult is so dangerous and must be opposed and rejected because the differences between men and women are important. Very important.  



 And none of this means women dont come with their own unique issues and dangers and all that.  Women can be the most heartless and conniving sociopaths imaginable. When men are detecting possible dangers involving themselves with women.....they are sizing up completely different risks.



 Saying that doesnt mean I hate and fear women, either.



 What will put me off on either a male or female is if they are unpredictable.  That's a red flag to me regardless of the sort of relationship it is. I get that some view predictability as boring .....I view it as stable.  If I cant accurately predict someone's behaviour after a year....forget it. I dont like dramatic surprises or drama.  My little ptsd addled heart cant handle that shit.  Emotional and physical safety are needs I have and I wont stick around if they are not being met.



 So there are some of my actual perceptions. If all you take from that is "Dovey hates and fears men and is traumatized!"....you clearly are not listening and you've got some damage in there you need to look at.  Perhaps I'm reminding you of some toxic female you were involved with.



 It's kinda weird and awkward though Joe.....for you to chose a thread like this and the content in it to go to that place.  Just saying. This thread is literally about a bad man who tried to attack my daughter....you should definately not be feeling the need to lecture me on trauma led misjudging here when none of that is happening.

 

 Do you see how the other men are responding?  That's the normal response.  To cheer my kid whooping ass and getting away and talk about weapons. It's not normal to respond as if you are being attacked as a man.



 Unless you are the kind of guy to jump out of your car and grab a strange 17 year old. And I dont think you are that kinda guy ......but I could be wrong.



 Am i wrong, Joe?  You got some skeletons in the closet over there, buddy?
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Odinson on October 30, 2022, 12:50:01 PM
Women are pretty violent... They just suck at it.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Dove on October 30, 2022, 12:57:50 PM
Quote from: Odinson post_id=479181 time=1667148601 user_id=136
Women are pretty violent... They just suck at it.


 Yes. We tend to suck at things that are not in our nature.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Odinson on October 30, 2022, 01:58:51 PM
Quote from: Dove post_id=479182 time=1667149070 user_id=3266
Quote from: Odinson post_id=479181 time=1667148601 user_id=136
Women are pretty violent... They just suck at it.


 Yes. We tend to suck at things that are not in our nature.


Loathing and fighting in general against other women is in your nature.



Wayyy back in the day your chance of survival depended on trapping the strongest guys by becoming their favorite... That meant competition.

You see other women as threats.



It didnt make any sense for you to form a female community... It would have just concentrated the coochie in one place for some warlord.



It does make sense for us to join forces with other guys for extra protection and power to take on bigger targets.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Anonymous on October 30, 2022, 03:04:17 PM
Quote from: Odinson post_id=479184 time=1667152731 user_id=136
Quote from: Dove post_id=479182 time=1667149070 user_id=3266




 Yes. We tend to suck at things that are not in our nature.


Loathing and fighting in general against other women is in your nature.



Wayyy back in the day your chance of survival depended on trapping the strongest guys by becoming their favorite... That meant competition.

You see other women as threats.



It didnt make any sense for you to form a female community... It would have just concentrated the coochie in one place for some warlord.



It does make sense for us to join forces with other guys for extra protection and power to take on bigger targets.

 :crazy:
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Dove on October 31, 2022, 05:15:22 AM
Lmao!!
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Dove on October 31, 2022, 05:03:42 PM
So I'm NOT sure if this had anything to do with the guy who tried to fuck with my kid.....but several police and even FBI were here in my town arresting people. Like 5 guys.



 Freaky shit.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Odinson on November 01, 2022, 06:14:19 PM
You should get her pepper-spray made by Samuel Colt...
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Odinson on November 07, 2022, 07:36:12 PM
Quote from: Dove post_id=479308 time=1667250222 user_id=3266
So I'm NOT sure if this had anything to do with the guy who tried to fuck with my kid.....but several police and even FBI were here in my town arresting people. Like 5 guys.



 Freaky shit.


Dove... Serious question.





What if you got kidnapped by Peter Steele...



How would you feel about that?
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Dove on November 07, 2022, 10:57:52 PM
Quote from: Odinson post_id=480250 time=1667867772 user_id=136
Quote from: Dove post_id=479308 time=1667250222 user_id=3266
So I'm NOT sure if this had anything to do with the guy who tried to fuck with my kid.....but several police and even FBI were here in my town arresting people. Like 5 guys.



 Freaky shit.


Dove... Serious question.





What if you got kidnapped by Peter Steele...



How would you feel about that?


 He has been dead for like 12 years.....so that would be horrifying.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Odinson on November 10, 2022, 09:37:00 AM
Quote from: Dove post_id=480297 time=1667879872 user_id=3266
Quote from: Odinson post_id=480250 time=1667867772 user_id=136




Dove... Serious question.





What if you got kidnapped by Peter Steele...



How would you feel about that?


 He has been dead for like 12 years.....so that would be horrifying.


He raised from the grave just for you..



You know that is ro-mantic.





You would giggling like a fangirl.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Dove on November 10, 2022, 09:47:43 AM
Quote from: Odinson post_id=480673 time=1668091020 user_id=136
Quote from: Dove post_id=480297 time=1667879872 user_id=3266




 He has been dead for like 12 years.....so that would be horrifying.


He raised from the grave just for you..



You know that is ro-mantic.





You would giggling like a fangirl.


 I KINDA met him.



 Back in 99. I was 19. Me and my bestie female friend were concert buddies and went to every show we could.



 This night my friend called me and wanted me to go see a show where she knew some of the band. I had no idea Type O was gonna be there.  But they were. We were in some backstage room hanging out and suddenly in walked Peter Steel.  



 He really was a giant. Knocked the wind right out of me lol. I couldnt even talk to him....I stood there like a tard. He smiled at me though. TWICE.



 I did end up having a brief convo with Kenny Hickey about how much they love doing small venue shows and hanging out with fans.



 Good guys. Down to earth. Loved to hang with fans. Just funny, cool as fuck people.  



 I am glad I never banged any rockstars though i did consider trying.  Peter Steels physical presence was overwhelming and intimidating (until he started talking).  Way too much man for little ole me.... if you know what I'm sayin.



 https://youtu.be/JWiDauyEDv0
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Trump’s Niece on November 10, 2022, 09:54:45 AM
Eddie's stalking you again, Dovey
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Odinson on November 10, 2022, 09:55:28 AM
Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=480677 time=1668092085 user_id=2845
Eddie's stalking you again, Dovey


There is a thread about you too.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Dove on November 10, 2022, 01:56:44 PM
Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=480677 time=1668092085 user_id=2845
Eddie's stalking you again, Dovey


 Whhhyyyyy??
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: Odinson on November 10, 2022, 05:57:49 PM
Quote from: Dove post_id=480676 time=1668091663 user_id=3266
Quote from: Odinson post_id=480673 time=1668091020 user_id=136




He raised from the grave just for you..



You know that is ro-mantic.





You would giggling like a fangirl.


 I KINDA met him.



 Back in 99. I was 19. Me and my bestie female friend were concert buddies and went to every show we could.



 This night my friend called me and wanted me to go see a show where she knew some of the band. I had no idea Type O was gonna be there.  But they were. We were in some backstage room hanging out and suddenly in walked Peter Steel.  



 He really was a giant. Knocked the wind right out of me lol. I couldnt even talk to him....I stood there like a tard. He smiled at me though. TWICE.



 I did end up having a brief convo with Kenny Hickey about how much they love doing small venue shows and hanging out with fans.



 Good guys. Down to earth. Loved to hang with fans. Just funny, cool as fuck people.  



 I am glad I never banged any rockstars though i did consider trying.  Peter Steels physical presence was overwhelming and intimidating (until he started talking).  Way too much man for little ole me.... if you know what I'm sayin.



 https://youtu.be/JWiDauyEDv0


He would have destroyed you.



He was probably pretty normal dude.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: JOE on November 11, 2022, 12:23:31 AM
Quote from: Dove post_id=480697 time=1668106604 user_id=3266
Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=480677 time=1668092085 user_id=2845
Eddie's stalking you again, Dovey


 Whhhyyyyy??


...because eddy is lonely and he can't meet a normal woman as they don't want anything to do with him due to his mental illness. He says his mother hasn't spoken to him for over 10 years and seems she wants nothing to do with him. The Vancouver police paid him a visit once cuz some woman at VF complained that he was stalking her. Poor guy. But at least he has a Well known wealthy grandfathero is his guardian & takes care of him.



I believe I met Eddy once. He was a rather meek fellow.
Title: Re: My daughter beat up a possible kidnapper
Post by: TheProwler on November 11, 2022, 06:17:42 PM
Quote from: JOE post_id=480748 time=1668144211 user_id=97
...because eddy is lonely and he can't meet a normal woman as they don't want anything to do with him due to his mental illness. He says his mother hasn't spoken to him for over 10 years and seems she wants nothing to do with him. The Vancouver police paid him a visit once cuz some woman at VF complained that he was stalking her. Poor guy. But at least he has a Well known wealthy grandfathero is his guardian & takes care of him.



I believe I met Eddy once. He was a rather meek fellow.


If anyone is interested in the relationship between Senile Joe and this Eddy "person", you can read up on it here:  https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/dissociative-identity-disorder-multiple-personality-disorder



Dissociative Identity Disorder (Multiple Personality Disorder)