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Title: Michael Jackson
Post by: Trump’s Niece on November 23, 2022, 01:37:58 PM
Let's have this discussion





Do you guys believe he was molesting kids?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Shen Li on November 23, 2022, 01:43:05 PM
Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=483864 time=1669228678 user_id=2845
Let's have this discussion





Do you guys believe he was molesting kids?

OJ is innocent. MJ was guilty.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Dove on November 23, 2022, 02:25:51 PM
Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=483864 time=1669228678 user_id=2845
Let's have this discussion





Do you guys believe he was molesting kids?


 Not one single bit. That was extortion.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Dove on November 23, 2022, 02:34:32 PM
Here Rageaholic did a great breakdown of this



 https://youtu.be/6pnoQqlygQs



 https://youtu.be/9yTTEwBLfUQ
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Biggie Smiles on November 23, 2022, 02:35:06 PM
Nope.



MJ struck me as asexual



he's as guilty as R kelly in my mind



and if parents of the children would like to assert otherwise I would counter with their lack of good judgement allowing their children to spend overnight stays with a grown man to begin with
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Dove on November 23, 2022, 02:44:27 PM
Quote from: "Biggie Smiles" post_id=483884 time=1669232106 user_id=3214
Nope.



MJ struck me as asexual



he's as guilty as R kelly in my mind



and if parents of the children would like to assert otherwise I would counter with their lack of good judgement allowing their children to spend overnight stays with a grown man to begin with


 Come on. R Kelly is guilty as fuck.



 That's why in R Kelly's case they went after him with criminal charges.



 Micheal? They went after MONEY. No one ever filed criminal charges....not once. It was all civil lawsuits. Watch the what I posted....you be stunned how fucking sick the whole thing is.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Biggie Smiles on November 23, 2022, 02:46:18 PM
Quote from: Dove post_id=483886 time=1669232667 user_id=3266
Quote from: "Biggie Smiles" post_id=483884 time=1669232106 user_id=3214
Nope.



MJ struck me as asexual



he's as guilty as R kelly in my mind



and if parents of the children would like to assert otherwise I would counter with their lack of good judgement allowing their children to spend overnight stays with a grown man to begin with


 Come on. R Kelly is guilty as fuck.



 That's why in R Kelly's case they went after him with criminal charges.



 Micheal? They went after MONEY. No one ever filed criminal charges....not once. It was all civil lawsuits. Watch the what I posted....you be stunned how fucking sick the whole thing is.


Rkelly didn't do nothing to them Hoes they didn't want done



His problem is that he liked them young. Statutory rape at best!



I don't believe a word them bitches say
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Trump’s Niece on November 23, 2022, 02:50:05 PM
I agree about R. Kelly.





*hides from Bonesaw*
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Dove on November 23, 2022, 03:47:15 PM
Adults know better.



 I dont care how bad a minor thinks they want it. A grown male messing with anyone under the age of 16....even 16....needs to be publically castrated.  It's completely irrelevant who started what.





 If R Kelly knew he liked them young he should have luproned himself into a eunick....or however the fuck you spell it.  Or better still stayed AWAY from minor girls.



 Especially a man stupid enough to video himself urinating on a minor.  With a woman who to this day has not identified herself.



 https://www.thedailybeast.com/r-kelly-urination-pee-video-teen-speaks-out-in-chicago-court



 I mean this is child porn.  If we are going to argue age and capability of consent....how young are we prepared to discuss?  Are we to lower the age of consent to 13?  Because that's the only way R Kelly could escape the reality that he sexually abused a minor on film. I just do not accept the "they wanted him" defense.



 Kids will also hang outside liquor stores asking adults to buy alcohol for them. And if they do....that's a criminal charge. And if one of those minors dies of alcohol poisoning or an alcohol related accident...that adult who bought it is now guilty of manslaughter as well as buying alcohol for a minor.  



 Because adults are expected to know better and we have a socail obligation to NOT involve minors in adult activities. We are responsible for our conduct with kids whose brains are not developed enough to understand what they are doing. Like drinking, drugs and especially sex. They are not mentally developed enough to fully grasp the consequences of their actions. They are EASY to manipulate and control. Especially by a famous hip hop artists with tons of money who can make them feel grown up, special, beautiful and sophisticated.  A male absolutely has the power to even make a grown ass woman feel specail and get HER to make the first move.



 Let's pretend they came onto him(and I'm not saying that matters) I'd have to ask HOW and WHY they were even ABLE to?  If they did, HE gave them the signals to let them know he would be okay with it. This is an adult male and teens we are talking about here.  He had all the power in these situations....they had NONE. He knew better. They didnt. The difference here is he is am adult who is expected to know better.  Teenagers are not....that's why we juvenile justice system and minors are rarely charged as adults in crimes. Most of them are just plain stupid and impulsive. We all know this.



 Unless we are gonna argue that R Kelly is the mental equivalent of a retarded 13 year old himself. Which I'm down to discuss. But unless he is proven incompetent he has to be held accountable for these bad decisions. He committed crimes.



 Is he mentally disabled or handicapped?  



 If that were MY 13, 14 year old .....first of all I'd never allow a strange male access to my daughters, and especially not a famous rich one. FUCK that. But if that had been one of my daughters I wouldnt be okay until i pissed on his grave.



 He knew they were too young. He knows it was wrong by evidence of him hiding it and denying it. He knew it was illegal. He did it anyway. He is guilty.  :howdy:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: cw_ on November 23, 2022, 03:58:56 PM
Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=483864 time=1669228678 user_id=2845
Let's have this discussion





Do you guys believe he was molesting kids?


No.

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Fun facts:  His 2005 trial was held in my town and I've visited Neverland Ranch.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Biggie Smiles on November 23, 2022, 04:00:48 PM
What an inconvenient time to run out of freshly baked cookies!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Lokmar on November 23, 2022, 04:12:42 PM
MJ liked to touch the little boys. I hear Sea Sandusky was his room mate when MJ was in the CR hovel.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Biggie Smiles on November 23, 2022, 04:14:15 PM
"sea sandusky"  :roll:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Trump’s Niece on November 23, 2022, 06:37:41 PM
Quote from: cw_ post_id=483895 time=1669237136 user_id=3226
Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=483864 time=1669228678 user_id=2845
Let's have this discussion





Do you guys believe he was molesting kids?


No.

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Fun facts:  His 2005 trial was held in my town and I've visited Neverland Ranch.






My mama LOVED Michael. She used to get so upset when they'd call him a child molester. I like to think she finally got to see him in heaven.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Herman on November 23, 2022, 08:03:13 PM
I don't know for sure if he was a kiddie diddler. But, he was a weird one. A grown man having sleepovers with little kids. If he was a diddler, the parents of the kids who went to his house were no better than the Epsteins.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Dove on November 24, 2022, 09:36:40 AM
Quote from: Herman post_id=483935 time=1669251793 user_id=3396
I don't know for sure if he was a kiddie diddler. But, he was a weird one. A grown man having sleepovers with little kids. If he was a diddler, the parents of the kids who went to his house were no better than the Epsteins.


 Micheal Jackson never got to be a person really. His parents pimped him out his entire life. He was like....5 when he became famous.



 He never got to be anyone besides "Micheal Jackson" the performer.



 I saw a documentary where his friends closed down a grocery store and dressed up as other people to play the part of "shoppers" so MJ could experience grocery shopping.  And he cried. How fucking SAD is that?  He couldnt go anywhere or do anything because he was so recognizable.  



 Same doc he was so determined to be the one to enjoy the zoo with his children that he just went ahead and went and relied on his body guards to keep the ridiculous crowd from grabbing at them.  



 Fame was a prison for him. And he didnt even get to make that decision for himself. It was made FOR him at a young age.



 No shit this poor guy created a haven named "Neverland" where people could indulge their inner childhood.



 He entertained entire families at his house. It was rarely just the kids. And when it was it was a group of them. And you dont hear this....but this mans "bedroom" was like a damn townhouse with a bed upstairs and downstairs as well as a living room and small kitchen.  It was not a "bed room" by any average persons standards.  



 If the same energy was placed into the vast amount of real abusers in the entertainment industry we could clean it out.  The blood thirsty focus on Micheal Jackson is ghoulish and unhinged.  Once all the facts and details are laid out, his innocence is undeniable.



 That being said I would never allow my kids to be hanging out at anyone's mansion... least of all with a pop star. I think that's irresponsible for so many reasons. They really could end up being abused OR a situation like MJs can happen. It's just not a good idea at all.  



 I mean even his response to the accusations show his innocence. If he were raping children why would he admit they were in a bed in his room? Without missing a beat? He clearly knew he did nothing wrong and saw these accusations as insane.



 The media is disgusting.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Herman on November 24, 2022, 08:43:26 PM
How come Janet, who had the same life aint as fucked up as her brother. I
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Dove on November 24, 2022, 10:59:52 PM
Quote from: Herman post_id=484072 time=1669340606 user_id=3396
How come Janet, who had the same life aint as fucked up as her brother. I


 Janet is super fucked up.



 She went Muslim to deal with her anxiety disorder. Figure that out.  ac_dunno
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Dove on November 25, 2022, 12:34:32 AM
https://youtube.com/shorts/DmddO65JPR0?feature=share
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: jeannie on November 25, 2022, 06:14:07 AM
Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=483864 time=1669228678 user_id=2845
Let's have this discussion





Do you guys believe he was molesting kids?

no, i think he just wanted 2 be surrounded by ppl that didnt intimidate him - kids r fun, innocent and non-judgemental
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: DKG on November 25, 2022, 06:26:39 AM
Quote from: jeannie post_id=484151 time=1669374847 user_id=3367
Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=483864 time=1669228678 user_id=2845
Let's have this discussion





Do you guys believe he was molesting kids?

no, i think he just wanted 2 be surrounded by ppl that didnt intimidate him - kids r fun, innocent and non-judgemental

He looked weaker than the average twelve year old boy.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: jeannie on November 25, 2022, 07:21:24 AM
he was a harmless weird dude and an easy target for tabloids
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: DKG on November 25, 2022, 07:24:12 AM
Quote from: jeannie post_id=484161 time=1669378884 user_id=3367
he was a harmless weird dude and an easy target for tabloids

That's plausible. I didn't pay much attention to the tabloid gossip about him.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Herman on November 25, 2022, 07:14:49 PM
Quote from: Dove post_id=484114 time=1669348792 user_id=3266
Quote from: Herman post_id=484072 time=1669340606 user_id=3396
How come Janet, who had the same life aint as fucked up as her brother. I


 Janet is super fucked up.



 She went Muslim to deal with her anxiety disorder. Figure that out.  ac_dunno

A lot of progtard celebrities are ignorant of Islam. That aint as fucked up as a forty year old man having sleepovers with little boys.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Dove on November 26, 2022, 01:16:48 AM
Quote from: Herman post_id=484361 time=1669421689 user_id=3396
Quote from: Dove post_id=484114 time=1669348792 user_id=3266




 Janet is super fucked up.



 She went Muslim to deal with her anxiety disorder. Figure that out.  ac_dunno

A lot of progtard celebrities are ignorant of Islam. That aint as fucked up as a forty year old man having sleepovers with little boys.


 This is probably closer to your time than mine but do you remember a movie called Mommie Dearest where Faye Dunaway portrays Joan Crawford as an alcoholic, completely neurotic narcissistic abusive monster who rips her sleeping daughter from her bed in the middle of the night, tears dresses from her closet and beats the girl with a wire hanger before forcing her to scrub an immaculately clean bathroom(among other very hard to watch instances of grotesque child abuse)?



 All based on a book written by that (adopted) daughter Christina Crawford?



 I think that's all bullshit too. Joan Crawford was probably a disciplinarian and somewhat strict as that generation was(I was raised by a Greatest Generation woman myself and had my ass whooped a few times. With a yellow plastic fly swatter and switches from trees, and while I dont agree with spanking I would challange any assertion that was abuse. It was NOT abuse)....but that story(and portrayal of Joan Crawford) was never corroborated by the other children who were there or any of the people who knew them well and were in the house.



 And the book wasnt written until after Joan Crawford had died and was unable to defend herself.



  I dont know why I just thought of that one but the topic is false accusations against celebrities so. I think that whole Joan Crawford/Mommie Dearest dramas is one of the saddest.  People see this movie and just believe it with no question and I think that's horrible.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: caskur on November 26, 2022, 02:32:46 AM
Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=483864 time=1669228678 user_id=2845
Let's have this discussion





Do you guys believe he was molesting kids?


Absolutely not.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: DKG on November 26, 2022, 06:35:27 AM
Quote from: caskur post_id=484405 time=1669447966 user_id=2156
Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=483864 time=1669228678 user_id=2845
Let's have this discussion





Do you guys believe he was molesting kids?


Absolutely not.

I don't know. I agree with Herman that an adult man having children share his bed is very disturbing. But, the parents gave their permission.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: caskur on November 26, 2022, 08:30:01 PM
Quote from: Dove post_id=484394 time=1669443408 user_id=3266
Quote from: Herman post_id=484361 time=1669421689 user_id=3396


A lot of progtard celebrities are ignorant of Islam. That aint as fucked up as a forty year old man having sleepovers with little boys.


 This is probably closer to your time than mine but do you remember a movie called Mommie Dearest where Faye Dunaway portrays Joan Crawford as an alcoholic, completely neurotic narcissistic abusive monster who rips her sleeping daughter from her bed in the middle of the night, tears dresses from her closet and beats the girl with a wire hanger before forcing her to scrub an immaculately clean bathroom(among other very hard to watch instances of grotesque child abuse)?



 All based on a book written by that (adopted) daughter Christina Crawford?



 I think that's all bullshit too. Joan Crawford was probably a disciplinarian and somewhat strict as that generation was(I was raised by a Greatest Generation woman myself and had my ass whooped a few times. With a yellow plastic fly swatter and switches from trees, and while I dont agree with spanking I would challange any assertion that was abuse. It was NOT abuse)....but that story(and portrayal of Joan Crawford) was never corroborated by the other children who were there or any of the people who knew them well and were in the house.



 And the book wasnt written until after Joan Crawford had died and was unable to defend herself.



  I dont know why I just thought of that one but the topic is false accusations against celebrities so. I think that whole Joan Crawford/Mommie Dearest dramas is one of the saddest.  People see this movie and just believe it with no question and I think that's horrible.


 Britney Spears is another one they target...



AS Chris Crocker says, "LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE"
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: caskur on November 26, 2022, 08:31:25 PM
Quote from: jeannie post_id=484161 time=1669378884 user_id=3367
he was a harmless weird dude and an easy target for tabloids


Yeah and they targeted him AFTER DEATH...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Herman on November 26, 2022, 08:34:33 PM
Quote from: caskur post_id=484587 time=1669512685 user_id=2156
Quote from: jeannie post_id=484161 time=1669378884 user_id=3367
he was a harmless weird dude and an easy target for tabloids


Yeah and they targeted him AFTER DEATH...

I remember him travelling all over the world and marrying Priscilla Presley when the accusations started.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: caskur on November 26, 2022, 08:44:20 PM
I just wrote a freaking post to soulbro and lost it...





Why doesn't this site have cache  ?????? Grrrrrrr.



I will have to rewrite it now....grrrrr.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: caskur on November 26, 2022, 08:45:14 PM
Quote from: Herman post_id=484588 time=1669512873 user_id=3396
Quote from: caskur post_id=484587 time=1669512685 user_id=2156




Yeah and they targeted him AFTER DEATH...

I remember him travelling all over the world and marrying Priscilla Presley when the accusations started.




He married Elvis Daughter not Elvis ex wife.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Frood on November 26, 2022, 08:49:03 PM
Quote from: Herman post_id=484588 time=1669512873 user_id=3396
Quote from: caskur post_id=484587 time=1669512685 user_id=2156




Yeah and they targeted him AFTER DEATH...

I remember him travelling all over the world and marrying Priscilla Presley when the accusations started.




Not Priscilla... but enjoy the tune.





https://youtu.be/E8lLItlcaZI
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Herman on November 26, 2022, 08:49:26 PM
Quote from: caskur post_id=484592 time=1669513514 user_id=2156
Quote from: Herman post_id=484588 time=1669512873 user_id=3396


I remember him travelling all over the world and marrying Priscilla Presley when the accusations started.




He married Elvis Daughter not Elvis ex wife.

I meant his daughter. I got the names mixed up.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: caskur on November 26, 2022, 09:12:41 PM
Quote from: DKG post_id=484410 time=1669462527 user_id=3390
Quote from: caskur post_id=484405 time=1669447966 user_id=2156




Absolutely not.

I don't know. I agree with Herman that an adult man having children share his bed is very disturbing. But, the parents gave their permission.


Michael Jackson grew up in a household that had 9 children and two bedrooms. It was normal for him to share beds.



When he was younger, he fell in love with Brooke Shields but she did not return that love. She only wanted friendship... then he got himself a chimpanzee and shared his bed with that ... he carried it around like a baby until it got too big and dangerous....then he married Elvis daughter and that marriage didn't last long.



It wasn't until he met Debbie Rowe who offered to give him the children/family he craved. He accepted.



He was a good dad according to his children and if was a Paedophile he would have diddled them... he didn't.



And what about the accursor?.... why did the parents allow the little shit to stay with a grown man UNACCOMPANIED? IF THE STORY is true then why aren't they held accountable?



if he did harm the kid, why wait until Michael died before coming forward....I no longer believe accursors. If it is not reported in a timely manor then I am not interested.



They (American women) used to constantly take Australian actor Errol Flynn as a grab for money... once you are a target, the cockroaches start coming out of the wood work and target you.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Herman on November 26, 2022, 09:21:40 PM
Quote from: caskur post_id=484597 time=1669515161 user_id=2156
Quote from: DKG post_id=484410 time=1669462527 user_id=3390


I don't know. I agree with Herman that an adult man having children share his bed is very disturbing. But, the parents gave their permission.


Michael Jackson grew up in a household that had 9 children and two bedrooms. It was normal for him to share beds.



When he was younger, he fell in love with Brooke Shields but she did not return that love. She only wanted friendship... then he got himself a chimpanzee and shared his bed with that ... he carried it around like a baby until it got to big and dangerous....then he married Elvis daughter and that marriage didn't last long.



It wasn't until he met Debbie Rowe who offered to give him the children/family he craved. He accepted.



He was a good dad according to his children and if was a Paedophile he would have diddled them... he didn't.



And what about the accursor?.... why did the parents allow the little shit to stay with a grown man UNACCOMPANIED? IF THE STORY is true then why aren't they held accountable?



if he did harm the kid, why wait until Michael died before coming forward....I no longer believe accursors. If it is not reported in a timely manor then I am not interested.



They (American women) used to constantly take Australian actor Errol Flynn as a grab for money... once you are a target, the cockroaches start coming out of the wood work and target you.

Did the other Jackson boys share their beds with kids when they were forty. How many poor boys who grew up to be men had sleepovers with little boys.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Frood on November 26, 2022, 10:34:01 PM
I'm out to the jury about Michael Jackson. He was seriously fucked up but what child star in a bubble isn't?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: caskur on November 26, 2022, 10:49:09 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=484608 time=1669520041 user_id=1676
I'm out to the jury about Michael Jackson. He was seriously fucked up but what child star in a bubble isn't?


I don't watch all those tv shows who bag him. I refused to. I listened to Michael himself and believed him way back when.



The other thing to is the parents of the kid... would you let your 13 year old stay  with a man, ALONE.



 I call bullshit on the whole accusation.



Everybody in that  last video were PAID to bag Michael.



 The guy was a musical genius....
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: caskur on November 26, 2022, 11:00:23 PM
Quote from: Herman post_id=484598 time=1669515700 user_id=3396
Quote from: caskur post_id=484597 time=1669515161 user_id=2156




Michael Jackson grew up in a household that had 9 children and two bedrooms. It was normal for him to share beds.



When he was younger, he fell in love with Brooke Shields but she did not return that love. She only wanted friendship... then he got himself a chimpanzee and shared his bed with that ... he carried it around like a baby until it got to big and dangerous....then he married Elvis daughter and that marriage didn't last long.



It wasn't until he met Debbie Rowe who offered to give him the children/family he craved. He accepted.



He was a good dad according to his children and if was a Paedophile he would have diddled them... he didn't.



And what about the accursor?.... why did the parents allow the little shit to stay with a grown man UNACCOMPANIED? IF THE STORY is true then why aren't they held accountable?



if he did harm the kid, why wait until Michael died before coming forward....I no longer believe accursors. If it is not reported in a timely manor then I am not interested.



They (American women) used to constantly take Australian actor Errol Flynn as a grab for money... once you are a target, the cockroaches start coming out of the wood work and target you.

Did the other Jackson boys share their beds with kids when they were forty. How many poor boys who grew up to be men had sleepovers with little boys.


 We are not talking about other men and other boys....



 How many children have lied about being diddled...? How many people USE celebs to grab attention and money?



And which part of MJ death and he not being here to fight any allegations didn't you get the first few times I wrote it.



 All these wankers are just trying to get money for jam...



 Any psychiatric history of the extortioner complaining to a Psychiatrist for being molested?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: DKG on November 27, 2022, 06:21:49 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=484608 time=1669520041 user_id=1676
I'm out to the jury about Michael Jackson. He was seriously fucked up but what child star in a bubble isn't?

This is undeniably true. And I'm sorry,  but there is no excuse for Michael Jackson's unusual relationships with kids. I'm not saying there was inappropriate contact, because none of us know. But I would not be too surprised if it did happen.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Dove on November 27, 2022, 03:14:11 PM
If you actually dig into the facts....including the fact this guys bedroom was the size of a 3 bedroom townhouse and had more than one bed....include a giant bed that went across the whole room...his innocence is obvious.



 If Micheal Jackson actually molested those boys WHY didnt any of the families file criminal charges?  Wouldnt you file criminal charges?  They went civil and wanted a pay out.



 We have that Home Alone star who is a millionaire on his own who spent considerable time with MJ who has said several times absolutely nothing happened. Remove the financial motive and the claims dont stand.



 Those boys defended him in court. They were cross examined and those attorneys knew how to get the truth. Children are not so mentally sophisticated they will be able to bullshit through hours of cross examination.  



 MJ was innocent.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Herman on November 27, 2022, 07:02:50 PM
One of the guys that testified for Jackson later reversed what he said. He said Jackson did molest him. I read the Leaving Neverland movie said he was a diddler. Bottom line is that Jackson was weird as hell.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Dove on November 29, 2022, 09:22:19 AM
Quote from: Herman post_id=484705 time=1669593770 user_id=3396
One of the guys that testified for Jackson later reversed what he said. He said Jackson did molest him. I read the Leaving Neverland movie said he was a diddler. Bottom line is that Jackson was weird as hell.


 Yeah. That guy defended him up until he auditioned for some Micheal Jackson circus show and they didnt hire him....then he sued the estate over child abuse and they used claims that were in a book written by some pedo guy activists that Micheal Jackson successfully sued.



 All of that is in the Rageaholics videos on this I posted.



 Leaving Neverland was 4 hours long and all based on a NAMBLA book.  None of that was real or true.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: DKG on November 29, 2022, 09:59:17 AM
Quote from: Dove post_id=484922 time=1669731739 user_id=3266
Quote from: Herman post_id=484705 time=1669593770 user_id=3396
One of the guys that testified for Jackson later reversed what he said. He said Jackson did molest him. I read the Leaving Neverland movie said he was a diddler. Bottom line is that Jackson was weird as hell.


 Yeah. That guy defended him up until he auditioned for some Micheal Jackson circus show and they didnt hire him....then he sued the estate over child abuse and they used claims that were in a book written by some pedo guy activists that Micheal Jackson successfully sued.



 All of that is in the Rageaholics videos on this I posted.



 Leaving Neverland was 4 hours long and all based on a NAMBLA book.  None of that was real or true.

That is often true of posthumous documentaries.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Odinson on December 14, 2022, 12:37:25 AM
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Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: caskur on December 14, 2022, 08:02:59 AM
Quote from: Dove post_id=484685 time=1669580051 user_id=3266
If you actually dig into the facts....including the fact this guys bedroom was the size of a 3 bedroom townhouse and had more than one bed....include a giant bed that went across the whole room...his innocence is obvious.



 If Micheal Jackson actually molested those boys WHY didnt any of the families file criminal charges?  Wouldnt you file criminal charges?  They went civil and wanted a pay out.



 We have that Home Alone star who is a millionaire on his own who spent considerable time with MJ who has said several times absolutely nothing happened. Remove the financial motive and the claims dont stand.



 Those boys defended him in court. They were cross examined and those attorneys knew how to get the truth. Children are not so mentally sophisticated they will be able to bullshit through hours of cross examination.  



 MJ was innocent.


Excellent points Dovey.



 :thumbup:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: caskur on December 14, 2022, 08:07:14 AM
Quote from: Herman post_id=484705 time=1669593770 user_id=3396
One of the guys that testified for Jackson later reversed what he said. He said Jackson did molest him. I read the Leaving Neverland movie said he was a diddler. Bottom line is that Jackson was weird as hell.


We wasn't that weird.



He was a talented genius...



He gave MUCH love and enjoyment to the entire globe...









https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAi3VTSdTxU
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Trump’s Niece on December 14, 2022, 10:16:52 PM
My mama loved him. I hope shes happy up there with him
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Shen Li on December 14, 2022, 10:45:57 PM
Quote from: Odinson post_id=487666 time=1670996245 user_id=136
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OMIGOD!! Michael Jackson used to be black. :swoon:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Breakfall on December 15, 2022, 01:01:50 AM
Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=483864 time=1669228678 user_id=2845
Let's have this discussion





Do you guys believe he was molesting kids?


I'd like to think not, buuuuuuuuut... the nutter did fancy himself as a kid himself! I reckon some touchy_feely went on. Why would he settle out of court if he wasn't guilty to some degree? "Lost childhood and all. As for Bubbles the chimpanzee...unfortunately the animal can't speak out, but some beastly shenanigans for surely went on!



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Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Breakfall on December 15, 2022, 01:03:08 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=487810 time=1671075957 user_id=3389
Quote from: Odinson post_id=487666 time=1670996245 user_id=136
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OMIGOD!! Michael Jackson used to be black. :swoon:


 ac_lmfao
Title: Re: Michael Jackson
Post by: Dove on December 15, 2022, 01:03:37 AM
Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=487804 time=1671074212 user_id=2845
My mama loved him. I hope shes happy up there with him


 So Squish loves dancing and sometimes she goes into her sisters room and they watch videos and do dances.



 She came out and showed me a perfect Moon walk....it was hilarious. Perfect. I mean she nailed it.



 She didnt know who Micheal Jackson was so I told her about him and how he was so famous for his dancing and his music and now shes hooked. She LOVES him lol.  She was watching him dance yelling "how! How does he do that!" And she tries to copy him. She does a freakishly good job too.



 I'm gonna have to video her and I'll show it to you lol