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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: Obvious Li on April 16, 2014, 12:44:16 AM

Title: Ukraine
Post by: Obvious Li on April 16, 2014, 12:44:16 AM
the Ukraine is being conquered piece by piece by a ruthless communist dictator and the USA, NATO and EUROPE sit on their fucking hands.......what a bunch of fucking cowards...they don't mind trying out new weapon systems on a bunch of camel jockeys....but when the shit hits the fan and someone can fight back  they do the chicken...... fuckers
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Anonymous on April 16, 2014, 12:47:10 AM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"the Ukraine is being conquered piece by piece by a ruthless communist dictator and the USA, NATO and EUROPE sit on their fucking hands.......what a bunch of fucking cowards...they don't mind trying out new weapon systems on a bunch of camel jockeys....but when the shit hits the fan and someone can fight back  they do the chicken...... fuckers

The USA invades and conquers Iraq/Afghanistan and they are outraged at Russia for annexing a former territory which they used to own(Crimea) on their own border? I think Moscow is manipulating unrest in heavily Russian areas of East Ukraine, but who the fuck are the Americans to judge?
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Obvious Li on April 16, 2014, 12:53:18 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"the Ukraine is being conquered piece by piece by a ruthless communist dictator and the USA, NATO and EUROPE sit on their fucking hands.......what a bunch of fucking cowards...they don't mind trying out new weapon systems on a bunch of camel jockeys....but when the shit hits the fan and someone can fight back  they do the chicken...... fuckers

The USA invades and conquers Iraq/Afghanistan and they are outraged at Russia for annexing a former territory which they used to own(Crimea) on their own border? I think Moscow is manipulating unrest in heavily Russian areas of East Ukraine, but who the fuck are the Americans to judge?




i'll give em Crimea....it was theirs anyway.....but the rest of Ukraine is a sovereign country......not russian territory
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Anonymous on April 16, 2014, 12:57:13 AM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"i'll give em Crimea....it was theirs anyway.....but the rest of Ukraine is a sovereign country......not russian territory

What if another area of Ukraine wants to escape the chaos that is Ukraine and join Russia? What biz is that of Washington? More importantly, who the fuck are the Americans to judge anyone?
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Romero on April 16, 2014, 01:07:16 AM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"the Ukraine is being conquered piece by piece by a ruthless communist dictator and the USA, NATO and EUROPE sit on their fucking hands

The US, NATO and EU haven't been sitting on their hands at all. Quite the opposite. They're the ones who have been conquering Ukraine.



The current unelected government of Ukraine is planning on joining NATO and the EU, and getting its high interest loans from the IMF. It's a big win for Western hegemony so far.



Think about what the Warsaw Pact used to be. Now we're right up against Russia's borders though we promised the Cold War was over.



I'm certainly not defending Putin and his thugs, but going after little Crimea and the eastern border is actually mitigating a huge loss. We've got the big chunk in the bag. We're the aggressors and we're winning.



I do worry about what this will all lead to. Will there be the usual decades of conflict, or will it lead to new war?
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Anonymous on April 16, 2014, 01:16:26 AM
I have had just about enough of the West acting like their collective shit don't stink. Washington treated Russia like a banana republic since the downfall of the USSR. Russia is a proud country and Putin's success has been in exploiting that sense of pride. If parts of Eastern Ukraine do opt for Russia, so what? Recognize it and move on. The West are the ones creating an artificial international crisis.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: cc on April 16, 2014, 01:35:27 AM
Contrary to our usual dreamer, the West has been blowing it for the past 5 years at least and are totally impotent  without a creditable US. Putin will end up with a hunk of it. No one should be surprised



O'bambi can't even play marbles and Putin knows that too well.  The actual game on the table is chess ... which Putin plays with considerable skill.



As a wise woman said - "If parts of Eastern Ukraine do opt for Russia, so what? Recognize it and move on" - Exactly
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Romero on April 16, 2014, 02:06:58 AM
Obama, the US, the West, the EU, NATO, Canada, and even the friggin' neo-conservatives have gotten exactly what they wanted. Except the neo-cons would have wanted to bomb Moscow.



Control of Ukraine. The current Ukraine government is going to sign up with the EU, NATO and IMF. American and Western "diplomats" are in Kyiv on a daily basis.



Putin is desperate for what little Russia has left. NATO and the West are on his doorstep.



We're winning, no question. Just look at a world map.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Anonymous on April 16, 2014, 03:30:44 AM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"the Ukraine is being conquered piece by piece by a ruthless communist dictator and the USA, NATO and EUROPE sit on their fucking hands

The US, NATO and EU haven't been sitting on their hands at all. Quite the opposite. They're the ones who have been conquering Ukraine.



The current unelected government of Ukraine is planning on joining NATO and the EU, and getting its high interest loans from the IMF. It's a big win for Western hegemony so far.



Think about what the Warsaw Pact used to be. Now we're right up against Russia's borders though we promised the Cold War was over.



I'm certainly not defending Putin and his thugs, but going after little Crimea and the eastern border is actually mitigating a huge loss. We've got the big chunk in the bag. We're the aggressors and we're winning.



I do worry about what this will all lead to. Will there be the usual decades of conflict, or will it lead to new war?

thank you. it's nice to see people here, despite the ruthless cbc propaganda, calling things their real name.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Anonymous on April 16, 2014, 03:35:25 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"I have had just about enough of the West acting like their collective shit don't stink. Washington treated Russia like a banana republic since the downfall of the USSR. Russia is a proud country and Putin's success has been in exploiting that sense of pride. If parts of Eastern Ukraine do opt for Russia, so what? Recognize it and move on. The West are the ones creating an artificial international crisis.

agreed.. cept "the west" is way too vague, it's nato.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Obvious Li on April 16, 2014, 09:01:33 AM
Quote from: "bb"
Quote from: "Shen Li"I have just about enough of the West acting like their collective shit don't stink. Washington treated Russia like a banana republic since the downfall of the USSR. Russia is a proud country and Putin's success has been in exploiting that sense of pride. If parts of Eastern Ukraine do opt for Russia, so what? Recognize it and move on. The West are the ones creating an artificial international crisis.

agreed.. cept "the west" is way too vague, it's nato.






NATO is a joke.......and Obongo is a joke.......the only serious player in all this is Putin.....he is no less of a monster than Stalin was.......i guess, truth be told, if parts of eastern Ukraine end up under Russian control WTF is it to us....they probably deserve it.....Ukraine might be better off cutting the ties now rather that than end up like canada supporting a basket case like Quebec forever.....now that's a crime
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Anonymous on April 16, 2014, 09:10:07 AM
Quote from: "bb"
Quote from: "Shen Li"I have had just about enough of the West acting like their collective shit don't stink. Washington treated Russia like a banana republic since the downfall of the USSR. Russia is a proud country and Putin's success has been in exploiting that sense of pride. If parts of Eastern Ukraine do opt for Russia, so what? Recognize it and move on. The West are the ones creating an artificial international crisis.

agreed.. cept "the west" is way too vague, it's nato.

Hello bb, so nice to see you here.

 :)
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Anonymous on April 16, 2014, 11:57:13 AM
Quote from: "bb"
Quote from: "Shen Li"I have had just about enough of the West acting like their collective shit don't stink. Washington treated Russia like a banana republic since the downfall of the USSR. Russia is a proud country and Putin's success has been in exploiting that sense of pride. If parts of Eastern Ukraine do opt for Russia, so what? Recognize it and move on. The West are the ones creating an artificial international crisis.

agreed.. cept "the west" is way too vague, it's nato.

No, it's not, the WEST suits it perfectly. Do you think non-NATO members like Ireland are any different? Assertive yet powerful countries like Russia and China represent a threat to Western economic/military interests. India will be demonized too by the self-righteous West the second their own interests clash with the West's.



I'm so sick of the West's hypocrisy. Colonialism has ended, get over your stupid selves. :x  :x  :x
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: DKG on September 20, 2023, 03:33:24 PM
Four Republican senators have signed a letter urging President Joe Biden to send missile systems to Ukraine.

In the letter, Cotton and fellow GOP Sens. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, Susan Collins of Maine, and Roger Wicker of Mississippi pressed Biden to provide Ukraine with MGM-140 Army Tactical Missile Systems. :crazy:
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: DKG on September 21, 2023, 03:50:39 PM
Poland says it will stop arming Ukraine. Poland's decision was both sudden and predictable, coming after months of tensions over a temporary ban on Ukrainian grain imports to a number of European Union countries.

It also follows a pattern of increasingly confrontational behavior towards Kyiv from Poland's government, just weeks before a tight general election.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Garraty_47 on September 21, 2023, 04:02:54 PM
Quote from: DKG on September 21, 2023, 03:50:39 PMPoland says it will stop arming Ukraine. Poland's decision was both sudden and predictable, coming after months of tensions over a temporary ban on Ukrainian grain imports to a number of European Union countries.

It also follows a pattern of increasingly confrontational behavior towards Kyiv from Poland's government, just weeks before a tight general election.

Those Ukrainian missiles that landed in Poland (and were initially blamed on Russia) probably didn't help the diplomatic ties between those two countries. I know I'd definitely feel a certain way about it if I was in Poland's government.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: DKG on September 21, 2023, 04:08:16 PM
Quote from: Garraty_47 on September 21, 2023, 04:02:54 PMThose Ukrainian missiles that landed in Poland (and were initially blamed on Russia) probably didn't help the diplomatic ties between those two countries. I know I'd definitely feel a certain way about it if I was in Poland's government.
It probably soured support for Zelensky among Poles.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Oerdin on September 21, 2023, 04:26:31 PM
Quote from: Garraty_47 on September 21, 2023, 04:02:54 PMThose Ukrainian missiles that landed in Poland (and were initially blamed on Russia) probably didn't help the diplomatic ties between those two countries. I know I'd definitely feel a certain way about it if I was in Poland's government.

I doubt that old issue has anything to do with it.  What is a big issue is the Polish elections happen next month and the ruling party desperately needs the support of farmers.  Ukraine and the EU came to a unilateral agreement (without any voting by members and in violation of existing laws as written) to let Ukraine flood the grain markets of specifically neighboring states like Poland, Romania, Slovakia, and Hungary but only those states.  This would financially ruin grain farmers in the effected states, the EU is not offering any compensation to farmers, and the EU is saying it can't effect western European farmers.  So it is deliberately just to fuck over farmers in the eastern EU.

So Poland's government simply refused to comply.  Both the EU and Ukraine said they will sue in the EU's totally politically motivated and not remotely objective court system but that will take years.  To respond to this lawsuit Poland has said they will no longer give weapons to Ukraine in order to teach Zilinski not to bight the hand that feeds him.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Garraty_47 on September 21, 2023, 04:45:10 PM
The missile strike was last year so it's not exactly ancient history but yeah, I can see where the other factors you spelled out are probably the driving forces behind the current tension.

I don't know what I was thinking- as usual: Follow The Money.

#smdh
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Lokmar on September 21, 2023, 04:57:21 PM
Zellinski is doing a fine job of fucking himself the last few days.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Oerdin on September 22, 2023, 05:15:40 AM
https://youtu.be/UDTUJz9-d58?si=wJ-5oSEVaIlAvhTc
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Garraty_47 on September 22, 2023, 10:25:05 AM
Gosh, I wonder why they never include this perspective on the pro-war "news" channels?

It's a mystery.

Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Brent on September 26, 2023, 07:04:16 PM
60 Minutes has reported that the U.S. is purchasing seeds and fertilizer for Ukrainian farmers and covering the salaries of Ukraine's first responders — all 57,000 of them. The report also stated that the U.S. is subsidizing small businesses.

Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. responded to the report by indicating that the U.S. should help its own. "Modest suggestion: Let's support farmers, small businesses, and first responders in our own country instead," he tweeted.

Americans don't live in a country. They live in a tax fish bowl for a global empire.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Shen Li on October 01, 2023, 01:48:17 PM
A bill to keep the US federal government open excluded Biden's request to provide more money to the Ukrainian regime. :yeahhh:  :thumbup2:
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Herman on October 01, 2023, 07:42:35 PM
Slovakia's new government has had enough of wasting money on Zelenskyy too.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Garraty_47 on October 01, 2023, 08:56:28 PM
I've read Poland is trying to extradite that 90-year old WW2 veteran Trudeau and the Canadian parliament applauded and gave a standing ovation to when Zelensky was in town.

Something tells me relations between Poland and Ukraine haven't started warming again quite yet.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Herman on October 01, 2023, 09:13:16 PM
Quote from: Garraty_47 on October 01, 2023, 08:56:28 PMI've read Poland is trying to extradite that 90-year old WW2 veteran Trudeau and the Canadian parliament applauded and gave a standing ovation to when Zelensky was in town.

Something tells me relations between Poland and Ukraine haven't started warming again quite yet.
I aint heard that one. He is ninety eight.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Garraty_47 on October 01, 2023, 09:56:13 PM
Quote from: Herman on October 01, 2023, 09:13:16 PMI aint heard that one. He is ninety eight.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/yaroslav-hunka-poland-minister-extradite-1.6978266
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Herman on December 05, 2023, 12:00:17 AM
Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky is failing as a war leader and will soon be on his way out of the job, the mayor of Kyiv Vitali Klitschko has suggested. Klitschko, a former heavyweight boxing world champion, admitted in an interview with Swiss outlet '20 minuten' that Ukraine's counter-offensive had stalled and Zelensky is now 'paying for his mistakes'.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: JOE on December 05, 2023, 12:41:32 PM
Quote from: Garraty_47 on September 22, 2023, 10:25:05 AMGosh, I wonder why they never include this perspective on the pro-war "news" channels?

It's a mystery.


I wonder why Ukraine didn't hit the South/Crimea.

That part seemed to be where they were making inroads and coulda hit Russia hardest. and it was Russia's soft spot where they seemed most vulnerable. Knocking out their black sea fleet and airfields would have done a lotta damage to Russia.

But maybe they lacked the manpower/resources to take it back?

Maybe Ukraine thought they had to cut the South of first by winning in the North and East first.

I didn't think that was a good idea either.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Adolf Oliver Bush on December 06, 2023, 03:11:59 AM
Maybe they were thinking about Penis.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: DKG on December 07, 2023, 10:56:10 AM
Ukraine's failure to make a decisive breakthrough in its counter-offensive during the summer has all but silenced the optimistic predictions made by Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky and his senior commanders that victory was within Kyiv's grasp.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Adolf Oliver Bush on December 08, 2023, 09:21:28 PM
Heheheh...


Quote from: PoliticoFinland hopes to ease restrictions on its eastern border with Russia after the traffic of migrants stopped following Helsinki's complete closure of the frontier last week, Finnish Foreign Minister Elina Valtonen said.

"We are closely following the situation, how it evolves," Valtonen told POLITICO in an interview on Friday. "And now that it has been peaceful, we hope that we can, if not go directly to normal ... at least open a few border crossings if possible."
https://archive.ph/w8bRx


That wouldn't have anything to do with this next bit now, would it?


Quote from: ReMixAfrican and Middle Eastern migrants who failed to breach the Finnish border from Russia are being offered work permits by Moscow on one condition — that they fight on the front line in Ukraine for a year.

(https://i.imgur.com/5QpcA17.jpg)

According to the BBC's Russian Service, the Kremlin is seeking to repurpose the migrants it is accused of allowing into Russia only to facilitate a mass influx of asylum seekers on the European Union's external border.

A report by the broadcaster claims that after Finland closed its border with Russia, the Russian authorities detained large numbers of migrants they are now seeking to deport. However, many have been offered the chance to stay in the country if they fight on the front line
https://archive.ph/dtwne

"Oh no! All those future engineers and scientists going to fight in the You-Crane? Quick! Open the borders! OPEN THE BORDERRRRSSSS!!!!"
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: DKG on December 10, 2023, 11:00:52 AM
Quote
Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on December 08, 2023, 09:21:28 PMHeheheh...

https://archive.ph/w8bRx


That wouldn't have anything to do with this next bit now, would it?

https://archive.ph/dtwne

"Oh no! All those future engineers and scientists going to fight in the You-Crane? Quick! Open the borders! OPEN THE BORDERRRRSSSS!!!!"
Let me get this straight. They are seeking refugee status in Western Europe, probably claiming they are fleeing internal strife at home, but some might be willing to fight on the frontlines of a war in a foreign country??

Unless they have military training, I doubt they would be helpful to the Russian war effort anyway.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Adolf Oliver Bush on December 10, 2023, 04:31:02 PM
Quote from: DKG on December 10, 2023, 11:00:52 AMLet me get this straight. They are seeking refugee status in Western Europe, probably claiming they are fleeing internal strife at home, but some might be willing to fight on the frontlines of a war in a foreign country??

Unless they have military training, I doubt they would be helpful to the Russian war effort anyway.
Two words for you; "cannon fodder".

And do tell, in a world like the west, which is constantly stripping agency from the melanin-enhanced brothers of the world to the point where they are throwing money and privilege at them, even going as far to import them in vast numbers for the purposes of raping white women and children en-masse, how do you think it looks to the average libtard when the side they are funneling tax dollars to start pink-misting niggers en-masse.

And that's if they treat them as any other person in a Russian uniform. Hell, you put a bunch of the latter day wokels in the US military in front of them and they would probably shit themselves at the idea "because rayciss"!

Putin is one smart bastard, I'll give him that. Offering payment in citizenship for a year's service on the front line is a stroke of fucking genius. You saw how fast the Fins backed down... probably shitting themselves at the opprobrium that would have been dished out to them by the rest of the leftist EU and indeed the rest of the leftarded world otherwise. Meanwhile, the Russians that didn't invite their asses in the first place can keep throwing niggers in front of the enemy and keep the Russian forces for operations more befitting the training invested in them. 
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Lokmar on December 10, 2023, 05:40:11 PM
Lets just hope Putin is smart enough to dispose of those barbarians after he's done with em!
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: DKG on December 11, 2023, 08:52:36 AM
I read this morning an article by Daniel Hannan of the Telegraph that it is all but inevitable now that Russia will win the war.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Lokmar on December 11, 2023, 10:38:23 AM
Quote from: DKG on December 11, 2023, 08:52:36 AMI read this morning an article by Daniel Hannan of the Telegraph that it is all but inevitable now that Russia will win the war.

It does seem that way. The US is done giving money for now which is a major disaster. I wonder if Russia just settles for the land it has or if it takes the whole country.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Shen Li on December 11, 2023, 11:25:20 AM
The walls are closing in on Biden's Ukrainian business partner.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Adolf Oliver Bush on December 12, 2023, 04:07:42 AM
Quote from: DKG on December 11, 2023, 08:52:36 AMI read this morning an article by Daniel Hannan of the Telegraph that it is all but inevitable now that Russia will win the war.
That much was obvious over a year and a half ago. But then our side was never in it to win it.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Frood on December 12, 2023, 04:16:20 AM
Quote from: DKG on December 07, 2023, 10:56:10 AMUkraine's failure to make a decisive breakthrough in its counter-offensive during the summer has all but silenced the optimistic predictions made by Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky and his senior commanders that victory was within Kyiv's grasp.

Bunch of bullshit from the start. It was never going to happen...
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Adolf Oliver Bush on December 12, 2023, 07:36:22 AM
Save for the war pigs (like the USA and the UK puppets of Davos) meddling, that war would have been put to bed over a year ago. The only reason it's still going now is because Zelenskyy was forced away from the negotiations table by Biden and Boris.

Both of whom ought to be strung up and publicly flayed for their part in it.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: DKG on December 13, 2023, 11:08:23 AM
Was the war in Ukraine planned ahead of time by the US?

In a shocking clip from 2016 that has just emerged, it seems that may be the case.

Watch from 3:05 on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7orM3bxc2U
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: JOE on December 13, 2023, 01:05:31 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on December 11, 2023, 10:38:23 AMIt does seem that way. The US is done giving money for now which is a major disaster. I wonder if Russia just settles for the land it has or if it takes the whole country.

I doubt it, Lokmar.

The US can't afford to let Ukraine fall because it's right next to their trading partners in Europe. And it doesn't want Russia to be any threat to them. It's more like TEAM USA/Europe  vs Russia. they're all in it together. so like it or not, your country will likely keep sending money to Ukraine to fight Russia.

There's a lot at stake in this War. It appears to be a very pivotal one much like WWII was.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Lokmar on December 13, 2023, 07:41:11 PM
Quote from: JOE on December 13, 2023, 01:05:31 PMI doubt it, Lokmar.

The US can't afford to let Ukraine fall because it's right next to their trading partners in Europe. And it doesn't want Russia to be any threat to them. It's more like TEAM USA/Europe  vs Russia. they're all in it together. so like it or not, your country will likely keep sending money to Ukraine to fight Russia.

There's a lot at stake in this War. It appears to be a very pivotal one much like WWII was.

Did you even look at a fukin map, josephine? What country does Ukraine border that we're so concerned about? Dipshit. The Russians already control Belarus which borders all our "friends".
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: JOE on December 13, 2023, 11:55:56 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on December 13, 2023, 07:41:11 PMDid you even look at a fukin map, josephine? What country does Ukraine border that we're so concerned about? Dipshit. The Russians already control Belarus which borders all our "friends".

ie - Poland.

Poland is a Big Time supporter of your country.

They actually pay the USA at least $1 billion of 'protection money' per year  against Russia. Im sure they are not alone. Poland has probably increased this allocation in their defense budget since the war started.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Lokmar on December 14, 2023, 12:01:42 AM
Quote from: JOE on December 13, 2023, 11:55:56 PMie - Poland.

Poland is a Big Time supporter of your country.

They actually pay the USA at least $1 billion of 'protection'  against Russia. Im sure they are not alone. Poland has probably increased this allocation in their defense budget since the war started.

As I said, tard, Belarus already borders Poland. Putin could walk the fuck into Poland through Belarus.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: JOE on December 14, 2023, 12:05:04 AM
Quote from: Lokmar on December 14, 2023, 12:01:42 AMAs I said, tard, Belarus already borders Poland. Putin could walk the fuck into Poland through Belarus.

except he'd have to deal with all the other NATO countries there too.

It's like an old Warsaw Pact alliance but in reverse against Russia

All their old satellites they occupied are now against them. Germany,Bulgaria, etc
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Herman on December 14, 2023, 12:13:28 AM
Quote from: Lokmar on December 14, 2023, 12:01:42 AMAs I said, tard, Belarus already borders Poland. Putin could walk the fuck into Poland through Belarus.
Fuck Poland. Poles look down on Eastern Slavs.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Lokmar on December 14, 2023, 12:29:36 AM
Quote from: Herman on December 14, 2023, 12:13:28 AMFuck Poland. Poles look down on Eastern Slavs.

My ONLY point is, Russia already has an ally that borders Poland so if Putin was ACTUALLY stupid enough to invade Poland, he can already do it through Belarus.

Of course if that murdering douchebag actually did it, russia would be doomed.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Lokmar on December 14, 2023, 12:31:57 AM
Quote from: JOE on December 14, 2023, 12:05:04 AMexcept he'd have to deal with all the other NATO countries there too.

It's like an old Warsaw Pact alliance but in reverse against Russia

All their old satellites they occupied are now against them. Germany,Bulgaria, etc

Look, josephine, when WW3 goes down, Ukraine being a foe or ally wont matter much. I'll be more concerned how big of a mountain I'm inside.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Herman on December 14, 2023, 12:42:59 AM
Quote from: Lokmar on December 14, 2023, 12:29:36 AMMy ONLY point is, Russia already has an ally that borders Poland so if Putin was ACTUALLY stupid enough to invade Poland, he can already do it through Belarus.

Of course if that murdering douchebag actually did it, russia would be doomed.
Do you Anglos Saxons see Putin in your nightmares. Putin, Lukashenko and any Ukrainian leader since the end of the USSR are all about the same. They suit Eastern Slavs, but horrify you guys.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: JOE on December 14, 2023, 12:52:29 AM
Quote from: Lokmar on December 14, 2023, 12:31:57 AMLook, josephine, when WW3 goes down, Ukraine being a foe or ally wont matter much. I'll be more concerned how big of a mountain I'm inside.

The World is gittin' more violent every year...Lokmar!

Things are heatin' up around the World.
China has its eyes on Taiwan.
Israel - Palestinian War.
The Ukraine War.

Why Pretty soon Canada may be USA's only friend Bud.

So be nice to us, eh?

Don't diss yer friends, Bud.  You need us more than we need you!
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Herman on December 14, 2023, 01:02:07 AM
Quote from: JOE on December 14, 2023, 12:52:29 AMThe World is gittin' more violent every year...Lokmar!

Things are heatin' up around the World.
China has its eyes on Taiwan.
Israel - Palestinian War.
The Ukraine War.

Why Pretty soon Canada may be USA's only friend Bud.

So be nice to us, eh?

Don't diss yer friends, Bud.  You need us more than we need you!
English speaking countries like Canada, the US, Australia, New Zealand, and Britain are just dumping grounds for fake refugees and banks for corrupt scumbags like that Jew prick Zelenskyy.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: JOE on December 14, 2023, 01:03:13 AM
Quote from: Herman on December 14, 2023, 01:02:07 AMEnglish speaking countries like Canada, the US, Australia, New Zealand, and Britain are just dumping grounds for fake refugees and banks for corrupt scumbags like that Jew prick Zelenskyy.

I thought you said yer part Jewish Herman

Not that it matters.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Herman on December 14, 2023, 01:07:34 AM
Quote from: JOE on December 14, 2023, 01:03:13 AMI thought you said yer part Jewish Herman

Not that it matters.
My maternal great grandmother was Ashkenazi, but she was Ukrainian Orthodox. What does that have to do with anything?
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: JOE on December 14, 2023, 01:10:09 AM
Quote from: Herman on December 14, 2023, 01:07:34 AMMy maternal great grandmother was Ashkenazi, but she was Ukrainian Orthodox. What does that have to do with anything?

Oh I thought you made a snide remark about Zelensky bein Jewish Herm

Actually I think he's been rather magnificent holding his own and the Russians off.

Russia's military stanks ta high heaven.

It's like their botched military campaign in the Russo Finnish war.
Another foe where the USSR suffered way more casualties than the country they fought

Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Herman on December 14, 2023, 01:11:31 AM
Quote from: JOE on December 14, 2023, 01:10:09 AMOh I thought you made a snide remark about Zelensky bein Jewish Herm
I did, so?
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Lokmar on December 14, 2023, 08:20:42 AM
Quote from: Herman on December 14, 2023, 12:42:59 AMDo you Anglos Saxons see Putin in your nightmares. Putin, Lukashenko and any Ukrainian leader since the end of the USSR are all about the same. They suit Eastern Slavs, but horrify you guys.

Its simply not tolerable to have foreign agents using radioactive and chemical poisons to murder people on foreign soil. Putin should remain a pariah until the day he dies. If he wants to novichok motherfuckers in russia all day long, by all means, do it. If the chanks did this, I'd be calling for Xi's head too.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Lokmar on December 14, 2023, 08:22:13 AM
Quote from: JOE on December 14, 2023, 12:52:29 AMThe World is gittin' more violent every year...Lokmar!

Things are heatin' up around the World.
China has its eyes on Taiwan.
Israel - Palestinian War.
The Ukraine War.

Why Pretty soon Canada may be USA's only friend Bud.

So be nice to us, eh?

Don't diss yer friends, Bud.  You need us more than we need you!

Well, you're disarmed so we can come take whatever we want. Step aside, josephine!
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Brent on December 14, 2023, 07:20:17 PM
Washington is funding one third of Ukraine's government; that includes teacher salaries, janitor salaries — everybody, not just the military — everybody's salaries are funded by the U.S. taxpayers as the people in America are deciding between food or medicine right now.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Herman on December 14, 2023, 10:55:26 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on December 14, 2023, 08:20:42 AMIts simply not tolerable to have foreign agents using radioactive and chemical poisons to murder people on foreign soil. Putin should remain a pariah until the day he dies. If he wants to novichok motherfuckers in russia all day long, by all means, do it. If the chanks did this, I'd be calling for Xi's head too.
You mean the way that Jew prick Zelenskyy had an opposition lawmaker killed near Moscow?

https://www.ft.com/content/834e90a5-6ae0-4839-b184-2c7c5e22ced0
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: caskur on December 15, 2023, 03:53:33 AM
Quote from: JOE on December 14, 2023, 01:10:09 AMOh I thought you made a snide remark about Zelensky bein Jewish Herm

Actually I think he's been rather magnificent holding his own and the Russians off.

Russia's military stanks ta high heaven.

It's like their botched military campaign in the Russo Finnish war.
Another foe where the USSR suffered way more casualties than the country they fought


Russians were conscripted..  they aren't real soldiers..  they filthy rapists with assault rifles.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Oerdin on December 15, 2023, 06:45:34 AM
Quote from: Herman on December 14, 2023, 10:55:26 PMYou mean the way that Jew prick Zelenskyy had an opposition lawmaker killed near Moscow?

https://www.ft.com/content/834e90a5-6ae0-4839-b184-2c7c5e22ced0

The guy literally was a paid Moscow backed traitor so who cares? 
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: JOE on December 15, 2023, 09:57:36 AM
Quote from: caskur on December 15, 2023, 03:53:33 AMRussians were conscripted..  they aren't real soldiers..  they filthy rapists with assault rifles.

Yes, and now the ugly truth about their war crimes during World War II is becoming more well known.


How they raped their way through Eastern Europe and finally Germany. By some fluke they got be on the side of 'the good guys' who helped the allies win WWII.

Ironic that people like evs over at VF adore Russia so much when their soldiers even did it to their own communist allied women in Yugoslavia.

Rape was a common practice during WWII, but the Russians were especially known for it.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Odinson on December 15, 2023, 10:18:12 AM
Real barbarians rape all the men as well.

Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Lokmar on December 15, 2023, 10:58:34 AM
Quote from: JOE on December 15, 2023, 09:57:36 AMYes, and now the ugly truth about their war crimes during World War II is becoming more well known.

How they raped their way through Eastern Europe and finally Germany. By some fluke they got be on the side of 'the good guys' who helped the allies win WWII.

Ironic that people like evs over at VF adore Russia so much when their soldiers even did it to their own communist allied women in Yugoslavia.

Rape was a common practice during WWII, but the Russians were especially known for it.

Its well known that russia is a shit society full of alcoholic trash. If they werent, they wouldnt have been allies with the nazis ITFP and they wouldnt have tolerated their shit form of government for 70 years.

The biggest mistake the US ever made was allowing Russia outside its borders after WW2.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: DKG on December 15, 2023, 11:23:46 AM
Quote from: Lokmar on December 15, 2023, 10:58:34 AMThe biggest mistake the US ever made was allowing Russia outside its borders after WW2.
Spoken like Madame Albright.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Lokmar on December 15, 2023, 11:32:46 AM
Quote from: DKG on December 15, 2023, 11:23:46 AMSpoken like Madame Albright.

Oh? Well I certainly cant allow for anything half assed or weak to be out there! Allow me to correct:

The biggest mistake the US made after WW2 was not marching into russia, decapitating their government, and democratizing the entirety of the eastern bloc!
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Herman on December 15, 2023, 10:06:14 PM
The latest Zelenskyy attempt to create a bridgehead on the eastern bank of the Dnipro River had fizzled and that Ukrainian troops suffered heavy losses.

Moscow demands that Ukraine remain neutral — and not join the NATO alliance.

Much of today's Ukraine, including the Black Sea port of Odesa and other coastal areas, historically belonged to Russia and were given away by Vladimir Lenin.

Russians and Ukrainians are one people, and what's going on now is a huge tragedy, a civil war between brothers who have found themselves on the opposite sides because of American interference and colonialism.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: caskur on December 17, 2023, 08:45:48 PM
BROTHERS HUH? So Ukainian women are their sisters then?

Did they learn raping their sisters from Colonialism too?


All Europe's monarchy were related I wouldn't call Russians foreigners to be colonised. Catherine the Great was German or (Polish). The Rusian left turds got rid of their monarchy because the lefturds thought they could do a better job at being the Czar.

The countries in the world doing the best are countries who have constitutional monarchies intact.

Monarchs are born and trained to serve. Republicans are about seizing power and serving themselves.

Between Russia and the Ukraine leader its about whose balls are bigger at the cost of everyone's lives. I strongly object to sending money to the Ukraine or Gaza.... although the Ukrainian are more deserving of a helping hand.


How many little Russian and Ukrainian kids are now going to grow up without dads and educations and learning to be responsible world citizens?

No respect!!

 

Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Odinson on December 18, 2023, 05:19:35 AM
Joining NATO was a bad move.

Now we have an American occupation instead of Russian.


15 military areas for American use Vs 4 in Norway.

Though they are mostly for storage of equipment.



We were not supposed to get military bases... Nor nukes... Now they are talking about nukes as well.


People wonder why I react to everything with a solid FUCK NO... Its because if you give an inch, they´ll soon want another inch.
And then another.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: DKG on December 18, 2023, 10:34:14 AM
Quote from: Odinson on December 18, 2023, 05:19:35 AMJoining NATO was a bad move.

Now we have an American occupation instead of Russian.


15 military areas for American use Vs 4 in Norway.

Though they are mostly for storage of equipment.



We were not supposed to get military bases... Nor nukes... Now they are talking about nukes as well.


People wonder why I react to everything with a solid FUCK NO... Its because if you give an inch, they´ll soon want another inch.
And then another.
The US already has bases in Finland?
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Odinson on December 18, 2023, 10:50:20 AM
Quote from: DKG on December 18, 2023, 10:34:14 AMThe US already has bases in Finland?

No.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: DKG on December 18, 2023, 10:55:49 AM
Quote from: Odinson on December 18, 2023, 10:50:20 AMNo.
Your government made a mistake joining NATO.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: caskur on December 18, 2023, 11:13:39 AM
Quote from: Odinson on December 18, 2023, 05:19:35 AMJoining NATO was a bad move.

Now we have an American occupation instead of Russian.


15 military areas for American use Vs 4 in Norway.

Though they are mostly for storage of equipment.



We were not supposed to get military bases... Nor nukes... Now they are talking about nukes as well.


People wonder why I react to everything with a solid FUCK NO... Its because if you give an inch, they´ll soon want another inch.
And then another.

They are gearing up for WW 3. THEY (whoever they are) want a war. There are too many people on the earth so they are going to cull us possibly.

Don't stress until it happens and according to the Bible it won't be coming during a northern hemisphere winter so you are safe for a good 3-6 months.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Lokmar on December 18, 2023, 11:24:27 AM
I WANT WW3!!!!  :yeahhh:
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Shen Li on December 29, 2023, 10:16:59 PM
Biden is threatening direct US involvement in the war he started in Eastern Europe. Neocons and neolibtards are the same stinking pile of pig dung.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Biggie Smiles on December 29, 2023, 10:43:40 PM
Quote from: Shen Li on December 29, 2023, 10:16:59 PMBiden is threatening direct US involvement in the war he started in Eastern Europe. Neocons and neolibtards are the same stinking pile of pig dung.

This is why any conservative who votes for Nikki Halely needs to be marched off the side of a cliff
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Lokmar on December 29, 2023, 10:52:08 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on December 29, 2023, 10:43:40 PMThis is why any conservative who votes for Nikki Halely needs to be marched off the side of a cliff

Yea, fuk that bitch!
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Herman on December 30, 2023, 12:01:27 AM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on December 29, 2023, 10:43:40 PMThis is why any conservative who votes for Nikki Halely needs to be marched off the side of a cliff
She is John McCain or Mitt Romney in a frickin sari. I would not vote rather than vote for her.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Odinson on January 23, 2024, 03:34:20 PM
Security guarantees from the UK mean nothing.

They have to mothball their ships because nobody wants to join the army.

Patriotism = Racist.


Their army is too woke for anybody of value to join.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Brent on January 23, 2024, 06:55:52 PM
Quote from: Odinson on January 23, 2024, 03:34:20 PMSecurity guarantees from the UK mean nothing.

They have to mothball their ships because nobody wants to join the army.

Patriotism = Racist.


Their army is too woke for anybody of value to join.
I you are serious, they are in a desperate situation.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Odinson on February 04, 2024, 04:54:46 PM
They have been mothballing ships for years now.

Two landing ships are the latest.


They mothball them and transfer the personnel to other ships.


The UK sends 25k troops to a joint military exercise.

Thats damn near all of their combat troops... From the total of 73k army personnel.



And the UK is supposedly the 2nd strongest NATO country.


Its not due to lack of funding, they just dont have enough people enlisting.
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Lokmar on February 04, 2024, 05:28:03 PM
Someone say racist? IM RAYCIS!!!  :s_hi:
Title: Re: Ukraine
Post by: Brent on February 04, 2024, 06:33:52 PM
Quote from: Odinson on February 04, 2024, 04:54:46 PMThey have been mothballing ships for years now.

Two landing ships are the latest.


They mothball them and transfer the personnel to other ships.


The UK sends 25k troops to a joint military exercise.

Thats damn near all of their combat troops... From the total of 73k army personnel.



And the UK is supposedly the 2nd strongest NATO country.


Its not due to lack of funding, they just dont have enough people enlisting.
I read the British military has become so woke that working class Brits are embarrased by it.