I am genuinely sorry that my recent presence here caused a major fracas within the Asian Forum community.
I understand Obvious Li has departed.
I had absolutely no intent or desire to be other than a normal poster and contributor here, and even start a thread that said so, in case there were concerns I would bring combative baggage from Van. I wanted to assure everyone that I like this forum and its people, unlike others, and no aggressive conduct would be forthcoming.
Unfortunately, there was indeed aggressive conduct that led to an unpleasant circumstance for all involved, and which I fully regret.
I would remind people from "over there" that this is not the place to continue hostilities that are focussed "over there".
To each and every one, friend or foe, especially admins and mods, I offer my sincere apology for those recent events. Whilst I don't take full responsibility, I do accept a level of culpability, and hope that this episode is NOT repeated.
Munday has done what now? Departed?
OH HELL NO!
So he has reported in that other place...
Again ... OH. HELL. NO.
"i was protecting the integrity of the forum, which every mod should do...once the Bosses decided that was not important then my job was finished....it is a very simple concept and why women will never rule the world.....so...sorry this incident means nothing to me...LS was a piece of shit, still is a piece of shit and will always remain a piece of shit....i left (mostly left) this forum because Gambino and LS were allowed to run rampant and destroy it...the same applies to ACC.....when he is finished killing it, if there is anyone left i want to interact with, i will go back"
Unless I am misreading his post, it seems clear that he has packed up his belongings, emptied his locker, and walked out.
You men are such drama queens!
Can't you two just shake hands like gentlemen and we can get back to arguing about the fundemental wrongs in this world as polarized by political leanings?
Sheesh!
Obvious Li should not go.
This is wrong.
And, no, Blurt should not have left VF, either.
There is an ill wind blowing across the forums, lately.
Quote from: "Real Woman"
Munday has done what now? Departed?
OH HELL NO!
This is terrible, I want Obvious Li to return.
:(
Quote from: "Real Woman"
You men are such drama queens!
Can't you two just shake hands like gentlemen and we can get back to arguing about the fundemental wrongs in this world as polarized by political leanings?
Sheesh!
They are and they also stubborn asses with fragile egos.
I just found out that Sox was over on VF crowing about Fash overturning his ban. What a stupid fucking move!! :x This all would have worked out if Sox hadn't pulled such a bonehead move. What the fuck was Sox thinking.
Two wrong fail where three lefts succeed.
Quote from: "Real Woman"
Two wrong fail where three lefts succeed.
Whatever, it was a dick move by Sox and you know it.
Quote from: "Leopardsocks"
I am genuinely sorry that my recent presence here caused a major fracas within the Asian Forum community.
I understand Obvious Li has departed.
I had absolutely no intent or desire to be other than a normal poster and contributor here, and even start a thread that said so, in case there were concerns I would bring combative baggage from Van. I wanted to assure everyone that I like this forum and its people, unlike others, and no aggressive conduct would be forthcoming.
Unfortunately, there was indeed aggressive conduct that led to an unpleasant circumstance for all involved, and which I fully regret.
I would remind people from "over there" that this is not the place to continue hostilities that are focussed "over there".
To each and every one, friend or foe, especially admins and mods, I offer my sincere apology for those recent events. Whilst I don't take full responsibility, I do accept a level of culpability, and hope that this episode is NOT repeated.
Where's my box Kleenex.
Probably right where you left it - on your night stand next to your favourite wanking material - The Tartan Dragon.
Quote from: "Real Woman"
Probably right where you left it - on your night stand next to your favourite wanking material - The Tartan Dragon.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol:
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Real Woman"
Two wrong fail where three lefts succeed.
Whatever, it was a dick move by Sox and you know it.
Poetic license is wasted on you woman!
Quote from: "Shen Li"
I just found out that Sox was over on VF crowing about Fash overturning his ban. What a stupid fucking move!! :x This all would have worked out if Sox hadn't pulled such a bonehead move. What the fuck was Sox thinking.
Er, wrong, dear.
He pulled the pin here before I gave him a spray over there.
He had no business attacking me in the first place. What I was thinking was this boy needed a kick in the ass. This would not have occurred if he had not acted pre-emptively, unnecessarily and maliciously.
Now, I am no angel. I admit that. If I am prodded, like many here, I give back what I get. Always been the same. For you to criticise me in that regard is a little hypocritical.
But this thread title is self explanatory. I at least have apologised for this turmoil. I did not come here to cause trouble. And remember, I was here waaaaaaaay back as well.
The truth is, Leopardsocks, you have not a single ounce of respect for admins or mods who refuse to play by your rules. You've demonstrated this more than amply. When a mod or an admin prods you, the proper response is not to "give back what you get" but rather to shape up or ship out.
I don't believe for one second that you've ever done anything "humbly" in your life, let alone apologize; you don't have the skill set.
Also, any man looking to put another notch in his gun is, by definition, looking for trouble no matter what he says. You need to stop waving that thing around. You'll scare the children.
I repeatedly state I want no friction in here.
There is no evidence that I have disrespected ANYONE in this forum. If I bitchslapped Obvious Li, it was a matter of returning what he was giving at a personal level. Attacking me to protect his "friends" is NOT the duty of a mod. My response had nothing to do with his responsibility here.
I have taken task with mods in another forum, and my actions were given strong support from people in here. At no stage did any remarks made elsewhere relate to any other forum.
I sought no more notches. He owned himself, and HE ran off when called on it. Not only did he run away, but his remarks elsewhere were offensive to his peers here.
If anyone, yourself included, prods me, then I will return fire. If, by now, you have not come to realise that, then you need to remove your cranium from your rectum. I am not a soft and gentle person, nor do I pretend to be. But, even Munday knew that unprovoked aggression would be returned kind for kind.
However, I will accept that doing things "humbly" does not come naturally. Perhaps you can offer me some tips.
People want to root for you Leo but sometimes you make it really fucking hard.
Yeah, I know.
I post. Must be provocative just to say "hello".
Spare me...I did nothing here to warrant this degree of mob enragement. I made nothing hard. That was Munday. He could have shut up, and let the dice roll. If I breached the rules, then he could do as required.
But I didn't. He did. Yet I MAKE IT HARD.
Just by showing up? Just by clearly stating, as if it needed to be said, that I mean to harm here at all? That what happens THERE is not relevant here?
Yeah. I can see where that must have really caused great concern.
Shame on me...
Oh, and tell me this...
Out of all this tumult and bitching, who is the only one who has apologised for the disruption, despite being the one attacked?
Yeah. I'm a piece of work all right.
How is it that people whose intent is to harm inevitably preface their actions with the words "I mean no harm"?
It's a Hollywood cliché. The aliens have landed but, no worries, they come in peace.
I suggest that, if you seriously believe your own words, you ought to seek therapy. Wait. What am I saying? That would expose you to a situation where a therapist could score another notch on his pencil at your expense. We can't have that.
Quote from: "Leopardsocks"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
I just found out that Sox was over on VF crowing about Fash overturning his ban. What a stupid fucking move!! :x This all would have worked out if Sox hadn't pulled such a bonehead move. What the fuck was Sox thinking.
Er, wrong, dear.
He pulled the pin here before I gave him a spray over there.
He had no business attacking me in the first place. What I was thinking was this boy needed a kick in the ass. This would not have occurred if he had not acted pre-emptively, unnecessarily and maliciously.
Now, I am no angel. I admit that. If I am prodded, like many here, I give back what I get. Always been the same. For you to criticise me in that regard is a little hypocritical.
But this thread title is self explanatory. I at least have apologised for this turmoil. I did not come here to cause trouble. And remember, I was here waaaaaaaay back as well.
That's not the way I heard it.
The thread was started by your favourite trouble maker and mine Shen :). Munday explained his rationale for banning including saying he would remove it if the powers that be give the nod. Leo responded and it was on.
No one rocks the Bee like the queen herself.
Quote from: "Real Woman"
The thread was started by your favourite trouble maker and mine Shen :). Munday explained his rationale for banning including saying he would remove it if the powers that be give the nod. Leo responded and it was on.
No one rocks the Bee like the queen herself.
She's a nasty piece of fucking work.
Quote from: "Chickenfeets"
How is it that people whose intent is to harm inevitably preface their actions with the words "I mean no harm"?
It's a Hollywood cliché. The aliens have landed but, no worries, they come in peace.
I suggest that, if you seriously believe your own words, you ought to seek therapy. Wait. What am I saying? That would expose you to a situation where a therapist could score another notch on his pencil at your expense. We can't have that.
All I know Chickenfeets is that Obvious Li is gone and I feel terrible about it.
i am really sorry you feel terrible, fash. i went through the very same thing more than once. it heartbreaking, but it does leave you a bit smarter so there are good sides to it too. you know better your community and your mods and your own needs in btwn theirs.
no apologies for posting about it, tho. i though it needed to be said.
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i am really sorry you feel terrible, fash.
no apologies for posting about it, tho. i though it needed to be said.
I never wanted this to happen bb, I really didn't.
:(
Yeah, I know.
I'd go get him myself, Fash, but Dog River is closer to Calgary than it is to Montreal.
Let the dust settle a bit (and there's lots of that in Saskatchewan); he'll come back. I'm sure he still loves you and that other sweet-as-sugar lady despite this fracas.
He feels wounded, is all. I would, too. You do your best. He does his best. And, then, a tension, and a moment of friction. And yet the sun comes up tomorrow, regardless.
You guys will be fine.
i know, fash. truth is, you cannot make everyone happy. fwiw, i like munday regardless of what we post at each other on forums, i know him for a very long time, but if he were my mod and he did what he did here, i'd ask him to go back on his decision too. dunno if that makes things worse being how your members dislike me.. but it is the truth.
i feel that mods should apply the rules evenly as much as possible and not their personal likes or dislikes. and because i had those kinds of misunderstandings on my board with mods in the past, when getting a new mod now i ask them if they are ok with what my expectations are - no perma banning, just TO's, using mod tools for modding only, and "if in doubt, leave it up" strategy.
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Yeah, I know.
I'd go get him myself, Fash, but Dog River is closer to Calgary than it is to Montreal.
Let the dust settle a bit (and there's lots of that in Saskatchewan); he'll come back. I'm sure he still loves you and that other sweet-as-sugar lady despite this fracas.
He feels wounded, is all. I would, too. You do your best. He does his best. And, then, a tension, and a moment of friction. And yet the sun comes up tomorrow, regardless.
You guys will be fine.
Oh gosh I hope you are right Chickenfeets..
We are not the same without him.
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Chickenfeets"
Yeah, I know.
I'd go get him myself, Fash, but Dog River is closer to Calgary than it is to Montreal.
Let the dust settle a bit (and there's lots of that in Saskatchewan); he'll come back. I'm sure he still loves you and that other sweet-as-sugar lady despite this fracas.
He feels wounded, is all. I would, too. You do your best. He does his best. And, then, a tension, and a moment of friction. And yet the sun comes up tomorrow, regardless.
You guys will be fine.
Oh gosh I hope you are right Chickenfeets..
We are not the same without him.
talk to him offline. send him an email and if that doesn't work, just be patient.. maybe with time he'll reconsider. and in time you will stop hurting too. *hugs*
Quote from: "bb"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Chickenfeets"
Yeah, I know.
I'd go get him myself, Fash, but Dog River is closer to Calgary than it is to Montreal.
Let the dust settle a bit (and there's lots of that in Saskatchewan); he'll come back. I'm sure he still loves you and that other sweet-as-sugar lady despite this fracas.
He feels wounded, is all. I would, too. You do your best. He does his best. And, then, a tension, and a moment of friction. And yet the sun comes up tomorrow, regardless.
You guys will be fine.
Oh gosh I hope you are right Chickenfeets..
We are not the same without him.
talk to him offline. send him an email and if that doesn't work, just be patient.. maybe with time he'll reconsider.
Shen Li has been chatting with him and I have sent him some pm's..
You are right bb, patience is required.