What you say?
These "arguments" online are insane!! Nothing but going around in circles. Muslims getting upset and Christianity is said to be from the devil...and apparently I'm going to hell...wtf is wrong with people!?
He is the son of God.
Jesus=Son of God and the Jewish Messiah.
islam is a false and evil religion. However, they do know how to deal with homosexuals. I admire that. Its the ONLY good thing about islam.
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What you say?
I say I've yet to meet anyone on this earth or otherwise who has any authority whatsoever on the topic. I say that until someone gets the carpenter's son on speed dial and he establishes his bona fides beyond a shadow of a doubt, he might at best expect the arguments over his origins and nature to continue unabated, his works questioned endlessly and many to perish... often quite horribly.
You are welcome to your faith of course, but you have no proof he even existed. Nor does anyone have proof that he did not. And in the balance, what does it matter anyway? You can take the tales handed down to you through the generations and do with them as you will... use their parables and teachings to guide you to whatever goals you deem worthy of your efforts.
If it so happens that you got it right, then well and good. Kudos to you even. But you could just as easily be wrong. For my part, I don't see the reason in making others lives miserable about it, much less my own. IF there is a God and IF his plan includes us squabbling with each other like vicious hyenas, I am perfectly content to do my own thing. A divine and omniscient being would have incontrovertibly solved this question long ago, not hidden the answer on an under-trafficked message board.
My two cents worth, and I'm welcome to them. Here, chew on
He was just some troll dude.... with mega swagger.
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He is the son of God.
He is indeed the son of God...
John Wayne's first line in a movie, I thought it was in Ben Hur... but the net is saying it is in The Greatest Story Ever Told.
"Truly this man was the son of God."
Not saying the dude didn't care about humanity but he was still ultimately one of the greatest trolls that ever got recorded....
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Not saying the dude didn't care about humanity but he was still ultimately one of the greatest trolls that ever got recorded....
Or "invented" if you subscribe to the theory that the Romans were reverse engineering Judaeo traditions to get their ceasars into the houses of worship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrTBelGZYYs
Quote from: "Berry Sweet" post_id=497359 time=1681005788 user_id=164
What you say?
These "arguments" online are insane!! Nothing but going around in circles. Muslims getting upset and Christianity is said to be from the devil...and apparently I'm going to hell...wtf is wrong with people!?
If you are Muslim, he was a prophet.
Quote from: "Berry Sweet" post_id=497359 time=1681005788 user_id=164
What you say?
These "arguments" online are insane!! Nothing but going around in circles. Muslims getting upset and Christianity is said to be from the devil...and apparently I'm going to hell...wtf is wrong with people!?
Are you going through a spiritual awakening Berry?
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Quote from: "Berry Sweet" post_id=497359 time=1681005788 user_id=164
What you say?
These "arguments" online are insane!! Nothing but going around in circles. Muslims getting upset and Christianity is said to be from the devil...and apparently I'm going to hell...wtf is wrong with people!?
Are you going through a spiritual awakening Berry?
I've most likely already had that with my near death experience. I have been looking around for some info on what I saw and why I saw what I did.
This topic must be trending on TikTok because of Easter? So I just listen in. I'm just shocked with the amount of ignorance abd unnacceptance from Muslims. Not only kicking off other Christian speakers but their own Muslim woman speaking gett8ng treated like crap and sgit down....like wow!
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Are you going through a spiritual awakening Berry?
I've most likely already had that with my near death experience. I have been looking around for some info on what I saw and why I saw what I did.
This topic must be trending on TikTok because of Easter? So I just listen in. I'm just shocked with the amount of ignorance abd unnacceptance from Muslims. Not only kicking off other Christian speakers but their own Muslim woman speaking gett8ng treated like crap and sgit down....like wow!
CC would have a lot to say about this.
Mary cheated on Joseph and made up an elaborate lie to explain the pregnancy.
Joseph was a feminist and believed all women.
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Mary cheated on Joseph and made up an elaborate lie to explain the pregnancy.
Joseph was a feminist and believed all women.
Highly doubtful. Anyway, prophecy declared Jesus would be born to a virgin. Sure, I'm aware of all the science, but I'm also aware of all the DEBUNKED science in my 50 some years. Science is ALWAYS fucking changing to fit the narrative of the latest discovery. The Bible ALWAYS declared the big bang.
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Mary cheated on Joseph and made up an elaborate lie to explain the pregnancy.
Joseph was a feminist and believed all women.
Highly doubtful.
Whereas tales of the holy ghost slipping you a bit of side action is beyond question. ac_toofunny
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I seem to recall hearing the definition of "virgin" was not the same then as it is today (kind of like words like "vaccine" and "effective" have been redefined in recent times) and that the original meaning was lost in the translation. Certainly it gave the Vatican pause when the Dead Sea Scrolls were unearthed - those documents lifted the veil on the meaning of a good many definitions in the bible ("resurrection" was another one) and the scrolls were disappeared off into the vaults quick smart with only pre-approved scholars being allowed to inspect them henceforth.
Apparently the meaning of "virgin" was closer to "barren" than it was "person who's never had a fuck ever". And while that unearthed definition might adequately feed into the whole idea of her getting knocked up was a miracle only achievable by godly intervention, it is also perfectly possible that she was an incorrigible slut who put out because Joseph was shooting blanks.
We don't know.
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Highly doubtful.
Whereas tales of the holy ghost slipping you a bit of side action is beyond question. ac_toofunny
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I seem to recall hearing the definition of "virgin" was not the same then as it is today (kind of like words like "vaccine" and "effective" have been redefined in recent times) and that the original meaning was lost in the translation. Certainly it gave the Vatican pause when the Dead Sea Scrolls were unearthed - those documents lifted the veil on the meaning of a good many definitions in the bible ("resurrection" was another one) and the scrolls were disappeared off into the vaults quick smart with only pre-approved scholars being allowed to inspect them henceforth.
Apparently the meaning of "virgin" was closer to "barren" than it was "person who's never had a fuck ever". And while that unearthed definition might adequately feed into the whole idea of her getting knocked up was a miracle only achievable by godly intervention, it is also perfectly possible that she was an incorrigible slut who put out because Joseph was shooting blanks.
We don't know.
Good job avoiding the FACT that the Bible proclaimed the big bang as the origin of the universe. Thats always been a toughie for gaytheists to deal with.
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Highly doubtful.
Whereas tales of the holy ghost slipping you a bit of side action is beyond question. ac_toofunny
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I seem to recall hearing the definition of "virgin" was not the same then as it is today (kind of like words like "vaccine" and "effective" have been redefined in recent times) and that the original meaning was lost in the translation. Certainly it gave the Vatican pause when the Dead Sea Scrolls were unearthed - those documents lifted the veil on the meaning of a good many definitions in the bible ("resurrection" was another one) and the scrolls were disappeared off into the vaults quick smart with only pre-approved scholars being allowed to inspect them henceforth.
Apparently the meaning of "virgin" was closer to "barren" than it was "person who's never had a fuck ever". And while that unearthed definition might adequately feed into the whole idea of her getting knocked up was a miracle only achievable by godly intervention, it is also perfectly possible that she was an incorrigible slut who put out because Joseph was shooting blanks.
We don't know.
Contemporary definition of virgin: JOE
Soo...Jesus was born a Jew but is actually a Muslim....and some think he was born Muslim. Its about 50/50...its like they don't know...
...also...a debate that Jesus can NOT save the world....he was very adamant on that....then 5 min later starts talking about how Jesus is going to save the world.....lots of serious wtf's here....
Apparently almost like Christian belief...they believe Jesus is coming back as the messiah, the dead shall rise, blah blah, He will fight the beasts..HOWEVER...He will only rule for 40 years...
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....and then what????!!!
This doesn't make any sense....people have been suffering for thousands of years, they've prayed and worshipped...they most likely want eternity of peace...not 40 years....im trying to understand Islam (and other religions for fun and educational purposes) but this 40 year thing sounds like a massive rip off....I'm 100% sure God is greater than that...and has much bigger plans than this 40 years thing....
Also....the Muslim women are very nice....I like listening to them talk....a few are not worth my time....but it's the men that are something else....
Jesus died long before Islam was created.
Quote from: "Berry Sweet" post_id=497359 time=1681005788 user_id=164
What you say?
These "arguments" online are insane!! Nothing but going around in circles. Muslims getting upset and Christianity is said to be from the devil...and apparently I'm going to hell...wtf is wrong with people!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws6X-zV_Wgs
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Whereas tales of the holy ghost slipping you a bit of side action is beyond question. ac_toofunny
I seem to recall hearing the definition of "virgin" was not the same then as it is today (kind of like words like "vaccine" and "effective" have been redefined in recent times) and that the original meaning was lost in the translation. Certainly it gave the Vatican pause when the Dead Sea Scrolls were unearthed - those documents lifted the veil on the meaning of a good many definitions in the bible ("resurrection" was another one) and the scrolls were disappeared off into the vaults quick smart with only pre-approved scholars being allowed to inspect them henceforth.
Apparently the meaning of "virgin" was closer to "barren" than it was "person who's never had a fuck ever". And while that unearthed definition might adequately feed into the whole idea of her getting knocked up was a miracle only achievable by godly intervention, it is also perfectly possible that she was an incorrigible slut who put out because Joseph was shooting blanks.
We don't know.
Good job avoiding the FACT that the Bible proclaimed the big bang as the origin of the universe. Thats always been a toughie for gaytheists to deal with.
Fact you say? So why is it called the Big Bang THEORY?
Ohhh right, an absence of proof again, but I'm supposed to believe it as incontrovertible proof because some gullible dullard hitched his trailer to it... yeah, we all know how this argument goes. :pop:
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Good job avoiding the FACT that the Bible proclaimed the big bang as the origin of the universe. Thats always been a toughie for gaytheists to deal with.
Fact you say? So why is it called the Big Bang THEORY?
Ohhh right, an absence of proof again, but I'm supposed to believe it as incontrovertible proof because some gullible dullard hitched his trailer to it... yeah, we all know how this argument goes. :pop:
Look, when I was a child, my dad told me he was taught that the universe had no beginning. Why? Because thats what science of the day pushed through public screwel. I'm sure you people dismiss this as coincidental.
Now, science teaches the universe had a beginning in a manner that lines right up with the account of Genesis.
The above is yet more proof that SCIENCE constantly changes BECAUSE it is wrong while the Biblical accounts remain constant and have never been proven incorrect by science. There are a multitude of Biblical accounts that science has dismissed that science latter had to align with.
He's both.