Good for gaming and video editing.
Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=501530 time=1684872477 user_id=2845
Good for gaming and video editing.
Pre-built?
Budget?
Yes pre built
Not trying to buy something cheaply made
Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=501538 time=1684874952 user_id=2845
Yes pre built
Not trying to buy something cheaply made
Its cheaper to order the components separately online and then assemble the PC yourself.
You get a lot more powerful PC with the same amount of money.
I'd say Apple or Dell. Since games are involved, I'd say Dell.
Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=501530 time=1684872477 user_id=2845
Good for gaming and video editing.
Buy trailing edge, consider your options when it comes to things like manufacturer refurbs, open box and possibly imports.
Do NOT buy from a box store unless you really cannot be arsed getting the best bang for your buck.
Familiarize yourself with the specs of what you are after. You are buying for gaming and video editing, that means 16 GB RAM system memory minimum and a video card with dedicated memory of its own (the more the merrier). Anyone who tries to sell you on the idea of CPU graphics, just nod politely and smile... and shop somewhere else.
Hewlett Packard is AIDS. Caveat emptor and all that shit. I've personally had more joy with brands like Asus, Acer and Dell, but that was in a laptop environment, not desktop. I like portability and am prepared to sacrifice a little performance for it.
You didn't mention which games you were intending to play. That can influence what configuration you're aiming for, and different games play nicely with different setups. Hit up YouTurd for gamer recommendations and see what's out there that applies to your case.
For instance....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iucU22tn51U
...I am currently considering for mounting in my bug-out van for when I'm on the road, but it might also function as a basic gaming and editing rig in a desktop environment. There are of course juicier rigs you can get, especially when you start getting into the five figure range, it really depends on how much you are prepared to spend and what use cases you have planned for it.
Quote from: Odinson post_id=501539 time=1684875538 user_id=136
Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=501538 time=1684874952 user_id=2845
Yes pre built
Not trying to buy something cheaply made
Its cheaper to order the components separately online and then assemble the PC yourself.
You get a lot more powerful PC with the same amount of money.
She knows this, she also knows she's not tech savvy to the level of picking out individual components and assembling them. No shame in that, but you're right - buying pre-made carries a labour component that presupposes a cut in performance.
Quote from: "Adolf Oliver Bush" post_id=501588 time=1684919225 user_id=3409
Quote from: Odinson post_id=501539 time=1684875538 user_id=136
Its cheaper to order the components separately online and then assemble the PC yourself.
You get a lot more powerful PC with the same amount of money.
She knows this, she also knows she's not tech savvy to the level of picking out individual components and assembling them. No shame in that, but you're right - buying pre-made carries a labour component that presupposes a cut in performance.
It is an awful waste of money... You dont have to be tech savvy to put things together since they are basically plug&play.
There is a 800 to 1000 euro difference between prebuilt and DIY.
You can update the Intel i7-13700k to i9-13900k.
And the RTX 4070 Ti to 4090 OC.
Quote from: "Adolf Oliver Bush" post_id=501587 time=1684918910 user_id=3409
Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=501530 time=1684872477 user_id=2845
Good for gaming and video editing.
Buy trailing edge, consider your options when it comes to things like manufacturer refurbs, open box and possibly imports.
Do NOT buy from a box store unless you really cannot be arsed getting the best bang for your buck.
Familiarize yourself with the specs of what you are after. You are buying for gaming and video editing, that means 16 GB RAM system memory minimum and a video card with dedicated memory of its own (the more the merrier). Anyone who tries to sell you on the idea of CPU graphics, just nod politely and smile... and shop somewhere else.
Hewlett Packard is AIDS. Caveat emptor and all that shit. I've personally had more joy with brands like Asus, Acer and Dell, but that was in a laptop environment, not desktop. I like portability and am prepared to sacrifice a little performance for it.
You didn't mention which games you were intending to play. That can influence what configuration you're aiming for, and different games play nicely with different setups. Hit up YouTurd for gamer recommendations and see what's out there that applies to your case.
For instance....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iucU22tn51U
...I am currently considering for mounting in my bug-out van for when I'm on the road, but it might also function as a basic gaming and editing rig in a desktop environment. There are of course juicier rigs you can get, especially when you start getting into the five figure range, it really depends on how much you are prepared to spend and what use cases you have planned for it.
It's for the kid. She edits videos and plays games like Genshin Impact. The current laptop (Gateway) is still running smoothly and I bought it in 2021. It runs good cuz I don't let her download whatever she wants.
I'm going to buy an external fan for now, just til I figure out which pc to buy.
Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=501608 time=1684940614 user_id=2845
Quote from: "Adolf Oliver Bush" post_id=501587 time=1684918910 user_id=3409
Buy trailing edge, consider your options when it comes to things like manufacturer refurbs, open box and possibly imports.
Do NOT buy from a box store unless you really cannot be arsed getting the best bang for your buck.
Familiarize yourself with the specs of what you are after. You are buying for gaming and video editing, that means 16 GB RAM system memory minimum and a video card with dedicated memory of its own (the more the merrier). Anyone who tries to sell you on the idea of CPU graphics, just nod politely and smile... and shop somewhere else.
Hewlett Packard is AIDS. Caveat emptor and all that shit. I've personally had more joy with brands like Asus, Acer and Dell, but that was in a laptop environment, not desktop. I like portability and am prepared to sacrifice a little performance for it.
You didn't mention which games you were intending to play. That can influence what configuration you're aiming for, and different games play nicely with different setups. Hit up YouTurd for gamer recommendations and see what's out there that applies to your case.
For instance....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iucU22tn51U
...I am currently considering for mounting in my bug-out van for when I'm on the road, but it might also function as a basic gaming and editing rig in a desktop environment. There are of course juicier rigs you can get, especially when you start getting into the five figure range, it really depends on how much you are prepared to spend and what use cases you have planned for it.
It's for the kid. She edits videos and plays games like Genshin Impact. The current laptop (Gateway) is still running smoothly and I bought it in 2021. It runs good cuz I don't let her download whatever she wants.
I'm going to buy an external fan for now, just til I figure out which pc to buy.
Acer Predator Orion 5000.
4K gameplay for Genshin impact with ray-tracing on.
You want something with Nvidia RTX 4000 series GPU and Intel 13th generation CPU.
Plus 32gb of DDR5 ram.
Plus at least 1 terabyte of SSD memory because you need space for the installed games.
The Quartering advertises an American company called "MetaPCs" and their Pyramid shaped PC has excellent specs plus it looks awesome.
2800 Dollars.
Acer... cheap and long life.
Ty! Now I know what to look for!
Shitttttt...this kid better save up for a year lol.
Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=501615 time=1684943499 user_id=2845
Shitttttt...this kid better save up for a year lol.
The PCs I mentioned are really high end and expensive.
But you can get good performance with lower cost.
Just give me the price range.
1k - 1200
Her ass better be an angel for this lol
Here is a good one... 1900 dollars.
MSI Aegis RS Gaming Desktop.
Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=501617 time=1684944014 user_id=2845
1k - 1200
Her ass better be an angel for this lol
Ok.
What is the brand and model of her laptop?
Just checking what she is used to.
Gateway. Everyone says Acer is a good brand
Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=501620 time=1684945240 user_id=2845
Gateway. Everyone says Acer is a good brand
It is the manufacturer of the components that count.
CyberpowerPC from Amazon 1170 dollars.
Intel core i7-12700f and RTX 3060.
Should blow the laptop out of the water.
Bear in mind that the keyboard, mouse and monitor are sold separately.
Quote from: Odinson post_id=501621 time=1684946248 user_id=136
Quote from: "Erica Mena" post_id=501620 time=1684945240 user_id=2845
Gateway. Everyone says Acer is a good brand
It is the manufacturer of the components that count.
CyberpowerPC from Amazon 1170 dollars.
Intel core i7-12700f and RTX 3060.
Should blow the laptop out of the water.
Bear in mind that the keyboard, mouse and monitor are sold separately.
Thank you! Definitely gonna look into these
What about Alienware from Dell or order from Falcon Northwest (they are one of the best around IMO)
https://www.falcon-nw.com/
https://deals.dell.com/en-ca/productdetail/geu1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXRuM__U6Ok&ab_channel=Dankchungus
They have new PC gaming toilets too.
To get best bang for your buck, don't get anything more than a 1K monitor (1080p) or at most only 2K, else you'll need to start pimping everything else up.
Might be able to get some info here - https://wccftech.com/
Quote from: Odinson post_id=501596 time=1684931712 user_id=136
Quote from: "Adolf Oliver Bush" post_id=501588 time=1684919225 user_id=3409
She knows this, she also knows she's not tech savvy to the level of picking out individual components and assembling them. No shame in that, but you're right - buying pre-made carries a labour component that presupposes a cut in performance.
It is an awful waste of money... You dont have to be tech savvy to put things together since they are basically plug&play.
There is a 800 to 1000 euro difference between prebuilt and DIY.
You can update the Intel i7-13700k to i9-13900k.
And the RTX 4070 Ti to 4090 OC.
Again, we both know all of that. We also know (or at least should know) that there are people in this world that see the insides of those towers as completely arcane and confusing as hell. I'm not saying Erica couldn't learn it either, but hers and Linus Sebastian's knowledge and confidence in pc builds are worlds apart. Even swapping out a graphics card would be an exercise in nail biting frustration, particularly if it didn't work out right first time. That has been known to happen, particularly when it comes to installing drivers.
She wants an out of the box experience. So it's more expensive than having someone ship her the parts and assembling it, in the end she's getting what she asked for. You and I would do things a little differently if it were us of course. I'd contend the suggestions you made regarding the Cyberpower option warrants shortlisting at the very least. though if it were me, then the first thing I'd be doing is unplugging the RGB at the least. That stuff shits me to tears. :laugh3:
For shits and giggles I took an old HP Prodesk 600 G1 SFF about a year ago now. Pulled out the mechanical HDD, replaced it with a matched pair of WD SSDs in a RAID 0 configuration, swapped the CPU out for a 4770, put in a GTX 1650 and a pair of 8 GB Kingstons. Thing flies faster than it has a right to now and I've hung three monitors out of the bastard, two at 1080, one at 2160. The spec sheet claimed it couldn't be done (the power supply is only rated at 240 watts) but it seems stable enough and I've yet to blackscreen it. Pretty sure I've done as much to the box as I can reasonably get away with, though if an A2000 lands in my lap any time soon I might see about a head to head comparison.
Its hard to say... We have pretty good consumer protection laws and you dont have to deal with some ignorant pakistani in the customer service.
The main parts of which your regular customer cares about, are all solid.
But the mobo and the PSU are question marks.
And its running a bit warm when playing something like RDR2... Its the fan cooler.
You can easily fix that.
The reviews and benchmarks are all good... The reviews only complain about trivial shit like cable management.
Did you get it?
It looks like I'm gonna have to spend near 3000 euros on the central unit alone..
And then buy the monitor, keyboard and mouse.
I want a PC that can run the upcoming God of war Ragnarök.
I aint playing that on low graphics detail.