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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: Frood on July 15, 2023, 09:32:37 PM

Title: Weird predicament
Post by: Frood on July 15, 2023, 09:32:37 PM
So I've got a really good mate going back to the late 90's who got with his early 20's sweetheart, bought a massive house together and now plan to tie the knot a few months from now.



I knew in advance this was happening and figured I'd be back in my home state by then but this is unlikely now, so I'll have to drive 20 hours each way or spend a day changing flights... which would normally be OK, but the invite states no plus one's and no children. Just me and wife.



It's in informal wedding on their property with finger food, drinks, and later barbecue/after party.



It doesn't sit well with me that our 11 year old  can't attend any of it, makes a huge hassle, besides me having to get down there, get time off of work, et cetera...



I'd rather make excuses and not go but it may be seen unfavourably by mate and bride...though would get them a great gift...



...but the kid thing... that really bothers me.



What to do....
Title: Re: Weird predicament
Post by: Reggie_Essent on July 15, 2023, 09:38:30 PM
Why wouldn't they want kids there?  All the weddings and receptions I've been to always had kid tables at the receptions for the urchins to keep out of the adults way.
Title: Re: Weird predicament
Post by: Frood on July 15, 2023, 09:45:05 PM
Quote from: Reggie_Essent post_id=507675 time=1689471510 user_id=3378
Why wouldn't they want kids there?  All the weddings and receptions I've been to always had kid tables at the receptions for the urchins to keep out of the adults way.




I dunno.... but our kid is very mature for her age, polite, respectful  does what she's told, and I only get to see her every few months because of this job I've been on.



But it's not the first time I've encountered the stipulation though it's not usually so set in stone.



If I have to choose, I'm spending the time with my little girl.



It's a dilemma..
Title: Re: Weird predicament
Post by: Reggie_Essent on July 15, 2023, 10:32:57 PM
Your girl comes first.  I'm sure your friend will understand.
Title: Re: Weird predicament
Post by: Frood on July 15, 2023, 10:39:44 PM
Quote from: Reggie_Essent post_id=507684 time=1689474777 user_id=3378
Your girl comes first.  I'm sure your friend will understand.


 :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:



Yeah, I'm thinking I'll attend the 2 pm ceremony solo and leave by 5... then we'll have movie/popcorn night.
Title: Re: Weird predicament
Post by: Dove on July 15, 2023, 10:48:03 PM
Quote from: Reggie_Essent post_id=507675 time=1689471510 user_id=3378
Why wouldn't they want kids there?  All the weddings and receptions I've been to always had kid tables at the receptions for the urchins to keep out of the adults way.


 Some people don't like it.



 If I see "no kids" I just don't go. Even if I was gonna get a babysitter anyway. I just don't wanna be at any family event that doesn't welcome children....I figure they wanna get drunk and wild and I don't.



 For a wedding like this I'll attend the ceremony but skip the reception.
Title: Re: Weird predicament
Post by: Dove on July 15, 2023, 10:48:34 PM
Quote from: Frood post_id=507677 time=1689471905 user_id=1676
Quote from: Reggie_Essent post_id=507675 time=1689471510 user_id=3378
Why wouldn't they want kids there?  All the weddings and receptions I've been to always had kid tables at the receptions for the urchins to keep out of the adults way.




I dunno.... but our kid is very mature for her age, polite, respectful  does what she's told, and I only get to see her every few months because of this job I've been on.



But it's not the first time I've encountered the stipulation though it's not usually so set in stone.



If I have to choose, I'm spending the time with my little girl.



It's a dilemma..


 I wouldn't go.
Title: Re: Weird predicament
Post by: Dove on July 15, 2023, 10:49:59 PM
Quote from: Frood post_id=507687 time=1689475184 user_id=1676
Quote from: Reggie_Essent post_id=507684 time=1689474777 user_id=3378
Your girl comes first.  I'm sure your friend will understand.


 :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:



Yeah, I'm thinking I'll attend the 2 pm ceremony solo and leave by 5... then we'll have movie/popcorn night.


 There you go. That's exactly what I would do.
Title: Re: Weird predicament
Post by: Lokmar on July 16, 2023, 01:16:07 AM
Dont go.
Title: Re: Weird predicament
Post by: Frood on July 16, 2023, 01:30:25 AM
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=507744 time=1689484567 user_id=3351Dont go.


I'm not going to do bad blood on their most special of moments.



Will just say that I'm down on a really short trip.
Title: Re: Weird predicament
Post by: caskur on July 16, 2023, 04:40:19 AM
Quote from: Frood post_id=507677 time=1689471905 user_id=1676
Quote from: Reggie_Essent post_id=507675 time=1689471510 user_id=3378
Why wouldn't they want kids there?  All the weddings and receptions I've been to always had kid tables at the receptions for the urchins to keep out of the adults way.




I dunno.... but our kid is very mature for her age, polite, respectful  does what she's told, and I only get to see her every few months because of this job I've been on.



But it's not the first time I've encountered the stipulation though it's not usually so set in stone.



If I have to choose, I'm spending the time with my little girl.



It's a dilemma..


If everyones kids go, it adds 1000s to the bill.



You are definitely very inconvenienced however how much do you and your wife deserve a lovely outting together?
Title: Re: Weird predicament
Post by: Frood on July 16, 2023, 05:26:03 AM
Quote from: caskur post_id=507760 time=1689496819 user_id=2156
Quote from: Frood post_id=507677 time=1689471905 user_id=1676






I dunno.... but our kid is very mature for her age, polite, respectful  does what she's told, and I only get to see her every few months because of this job I've been on.



But it's not the first time I've encountered the stipulation though it's not usually so set in stone.



If I have to choose, I'm spending the time with my little girl.



It's a dilemma..


If everyones kids go, it adds 1000s to the bill.



You are definitely very inconvenienced however how much do you and your wife deserve a lovely outting together?


Party pies, springrolls, and lemonade for the otherwise elderly and jet ins, then at 6 pm, the barbecues and piss roars up.



I just don't understand why no kids are allowed at the beautiful moment. Kids need to see great rare positive happenings...



...when I grew up, there was never a thought of excluding kids from celebrations....but I also get that the world is a different place these days.



I never thought he would be the type to exclude all kids. He's changed.
Title: Re: Weird predicament
Post by: caskur on July 16, 2023, 05:42:45 AM
Quote from: Frood post_id=507765 time=1689499563 user_id=1676
Quote from: caskur post_id=507760 time=1689496819 user_id=2156




If everyones kids go, it adds 1000s to the bill.



You are definitely very inconvenienced however how much do you and your wife deserve a lovely outting together?


Party pies, springrolls, and lemonade for the otherwise elderly and jet ins, then at 6 pm, the barbecues and piss roars up.



I just don't understand why no kids are allowed at the beautiful moment. Kids need to see great rare positive happenings...



...when I grew up, there was never a thought of excluding kids from celebrations....but I also get that the world is a different place these days.



I never thought he would be the type to exclude all kids. He's changed.




Listen you've got only one kid, others have more. There would be a sound reason behind the restrctions. Sometimes adults want to act like adults without worrying about offending children and especially other peoples children at a piss-up. Like I said.... go on a date with your wife. It'll be romantic.



Get your daughters friends parents to look after her.
Title: Re: Weird predicament
Post by: Frood on July 16, 2023, 05:46:10 AM
You're not getting what I'm saying...but, meh...that's OK too.
Title: Re: Weird predicament
Post by: caskur on July 16, 2023, 06:23:47 AM
Quote from: Frood post_id=507772 time=1689500770 user_id=1676
You're not getting what I'm saying...but, meh...that's OK too.


 I have gotten what you say... 100%... but I am trying to get you to see another side.



 I personally would say no BECAUSE of the travel alone, not because my kid couldn't come. I mean do you escourt and stay at kids birthday parties with your daughter when she goes to kids birthday parties?



it is a weighing up dilemma .... anyway, talk about it with your wife. See what she thinks.
Title: Re: Weird predicament
Post by: JOE on July 22, 2023, 04:35:05 AM
Quote from: Frood post_id=507671 time=1689471157 user_id=1676
So I've got a really good mate going back to the late 90's who got with his early 20's sweetheart, bought a massive house together and now plan to tie the knot a few months from now.



I knew in advance this was happening and figured I'd be back in my home state by then but this is unlikely now, so I'll have to drive 20 hours each way or spend a day changing flights... which would normally be OK, but the invite states no plus one's and no children. Just me and wife.



It's in informal wedding on their property with finger food, drinks, and later barbecue/after party.



It doesn't sit well with me that our 11 year old  can't attend any of it, makes a huge hassle, besides me having to get down there, get time off of work, et cetera...



I'd rather make excuses and not go but it may be seen unfavourably by mate and bride...though would get them a great gift...



...but the kid thing... that really bothers me.



What to do....


There was someone in my family who did that.



Held a wedding way out in the middle of nowhere which required 2 boats/ferries to get to the wedding destination. Altogether no less than a 3 or 4 hour journey to get there. In the process most of the guests had to book expensive accommodation to attend the wedding. And those who didn't had an arduous trip there and had to go back just to get back to work on time.



It was a nice wedding - but cost everyone a good chunk of change.

Maybe $200-300 cost incurred for each guest including travel and accommodation/food.



Personally I would never impose on anyone like that.

Find a compromise and a halfway point that would satisfy the needs of the bride/groom and their guests.



And if I were the parents of the children and had some say, I would tell them to scale back their demands.



Wedding settings or locations have to be reasonable and should require no more than an hour's journey from point A to Point B.



Anyways I can identify with this post because I've experienced it myself.



As a general guideline, do unto others as you would want them to do onto you.



Be considerate of their time and their pocketbooks.
Title: Re: Weird predicament
Post by: Frood on July 22, 2023, 04:40:05 AM
Thank you Joe.



We don't want to impose on the wedding plans but fucking hell!! It's a huge sacrifice and I've already agreed to be the best man.
Title: Re: Weird predicament
Post by: JOE on July 22, 2023, 04:44:50 AM
Quote from: Frood post_id=509375 time=1690015205 user_id=1676
Thank you Joe.



We don't want to impose on the wedding plans but fucking hell!! It's a huge sacrifice and I've already agreed to be the best man.


No, not you.



I feel the hosts are imposing on you, the guests or members of the wedding party.



I wouldn't do that to anybody



I'd be considerate of their time.



And yes if they ask you to make sacrifices fo rthem, they should do something back for you, like a perk as you suggested which would enable your children to attend the wedding.
Title: Re: Weird predicament
Post by: Frood on July 22, 2023, 04:49:48 AM
Just one 11 year old adorable and well behaved girl who they love to have around, teach her to drive stuff, shoot stuff... I love my mate and his girl but fucking hell... this ban on kids hurts me.



And like I said before. They can lay out a few extra chairs for the ceremony and expect the kids go home before the party kicks off...
Title: Re: Weird predicament
Post by: Frood on July 22, 2023, 04:51:47 AM
Oh shit... just realised I'm confusing the marriages of two close mates over a year apart.



Yeah nah.... the 1st one isn't THAT close and the 2nd ones love our daughter to bits.



Sorry
Title: Re: Weird predicament
Post by: JOE on July 22, 2023, 04:55:13 AM
Quote from: Frood post_id=509381 time=1690015788 user_id=1676
Just one 11 year old adorable and well behaved girl who they love to have around, teach her to drive stuff, shoot stuff... I love my mate and his girl but fucking hell... this ban on kids hurts me.



And like I said before. They can lay out a few extra chairs for the ceremony and expect the kids go home before the party kicks off...


It appears they just don't want children at their wedding period.



It's supposed to be an adults only affair.
Title: Re: Weird predicament
Post by: Frood on July 22, 2023, 05:14:46 AM
Quote from: JOE post_id=509383 time=1690016113 user_id=97
Quote from: Frood post_id=509381 time=1690015788 user_id=1676
Just one 11 year old adorable and well behaved girl who they love to have around, teach her to drive stuff, shoot stuff... I love my mate and his girl but fucking hell... this ban on kids hurts me.



And like I said before. They can lay out a few extra chairs for the ceremony and expect the kids go home before the party kicks off...


It appears they just don't want children at their wedding period.



It's supposed to be an adults only affair.


All of their children are grown up and in my mate's case, out of the house for many years... but hers still stick around. Her kids are very late teens and early 20 somethings.



I'm going to do what Dovey agreed with me over. I'll attend all on my own and leave 2-3 hours after. Won't make a fuss. I'll make excuses for my wife or whatever.



I don't want or need to ruin their perfect day but it's not perfect because kids aren't allowed to share in the celebration.



It's incredibly selfish.. short sighted... and I think disgusting when you consider how much the institution of marriage has been eroded over the last few decades in the eyes of children.



So if my mate and his girl don't want to be seen taking their vows, by big eyed sponges of little human being peoples, it's probably a sign of what's to eventually transpire.



He's still my mate....I will go along with this shit... and support him when it all goes to shit.



.....and I believe it will.
Title: Re: Weird predicament
Post by: JOE on July 22, 2023, 05:26:15 AM
Still, it seems to reflect the rather selfish and narcissistic Western. culture we live in.



"No children allowed"



I've seen how other cultures do it and they embrace the presence of children crying or well behaved. They accept that it's just part of life and our everyday existence.



ie - Filipino, East Indian, Chinese



That's why they often assign children as flowegirls.
Title: Re: Weird predicament
Post by: Frood on July 22, 2023, 05:47:02 AM
You know... you're pretty pleasant to interact with when you're not intentionally being a dick..