New Zealand shooting – news: Gunman who killed two in Auckland was being monitored for domestic violence
A gunman shot and killed two people and wounded several others in a mass shooting in Auckland, New Zealand.
The gunman also died during the incident, according to police.
Police said at least five people were injured, including a police officer.
The 24-year-old gunman, who hasn't been named yet, was reportedly supposed to be on home confinement for domestic violence charges at the time of the shooting.
The incident comes on the eve of the FIFA Women's World Cup, which is due to kick off on Thursday.
https://www.aol.com/zealand-shooting-news-gunman-kills-224536848.html
Police commissioner Andrew Coster said the gunman was a 24-year-old who had previously worked at the building site in Aukland and the motivation for the shooting appeared connected to his work there.
The gunman had a history of family violence and was serving a sentence of home detention but had an exemption to work at the lower Queen Street site, Mr Coster said.
The gunman began shooting at about 7.20am and police soon swarmed the area.
He moved through the building firing at people as many workers fled or hid.
The gunman then barricaded himself in an elevator shaft on the third floor, Mr Coster said, where Swat-type officers engaged him after securing the floors above and below.
"The offender fired at police, injuring an officer," Mr Coster said. "Shots were exchanged and the offender was later found deceased."
He said it was not yet clear if police had shot the gunman or he had killed himself. He said the gunman did not have a gun licence and so should not have been in possession of a weapon.
He's been named, but because he's not White, the media will be a bit slow to slam his name and face everywhere...

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I thought the Kiwis were all disarmed?
There goes shotguns for Kucked Kiwis. The will eventually have to spit on their leaders during a revolution because all their guns and knives will be confiscated.
Quote from: Reggie_Essent post_id=508814 time=1689879431 user_id=3378
I thought the Kiwis were all disarmed?
He used a shotgun, so much like Canada's 'gun ban', those weren't on the chopping block...
Quote from: "Melson Gibson" post_id=508816 time=1689879684 user_id=3397
Quote from: Reggie_Essent post_id=508814 time=1689879431 user_id=3378
I thought the Kiwis were all disarmed?
He used a shotgun, so much like Canada's 'gun ban', those weren't on the chopping block...
Ahhh. So as Lokmar says, those will go next.
If someone want to kill someone, there's not much you can do. Sounds like this kid had issues with some people he worked with. A baseball bat or a knife would have worked just as well.
Quote from: "Melson Gibson" post_id=508807 time=1689879013 user_id=3397
He's been named, but because he's not White, the media will be a bit slow to slam his name and face everywhere...

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I think non Whites are the majority in Auckland or soon will be, so I knew there was a high probability the shooter was not of Eurpean origin.
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If someone want to kill someone, there's not much you can do.
Pretty much. It's cheaper and easier to rent a U-Haul truck than it is to buy a gun, and that truck can cause just as much damage or more...
Quote from: Reggie_Essent post_id=508814 time=1689879431 user_id=3378
I thought the Kiwis were all disarmed?
Chicago is effectively disarmed
and bro not a week goes by without someone getting their wig pushed back
Same with Baltimore
funny how that works eh?
Quote from: DKG post_id=508823 time=1689880331 user_id=3390
I think non Whites are the majority in Auckland or soon will be, so I knew there was a high probability the shooter was not of Eurpean origin.
Appears that Auckland is about 50% White, so it's typical of any larger Western city in that it's very multicultural...
Cain killed his brother with a rock
we should ban all rocks
you know, cause they're all dangerous
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Quote from: Reggie_Essent post_id=508814 time=1689879431 user_id=3378
I thought the Kiwis were all disarmed?
Chicago is effectively disarmed
and bro not a week goes by without someone getting their wig pushed back
Same with Baltimore
funny how that works eh?
Our Chicago shoot/kill score this last weekend was 62 shot, 7 killed. I think most were black folks, but I'm sure there were a few latinos and at least one white person.
Quote from: Reggie_Essent post_id=508832 time=1689881220 user_id=3378
Quote from: "Biggie Smiles" post_id=508826 time=1689880654 user_id=3214
Chicago is effectively disarmed
and bro not a week goes by without someone getting their wig pushed back
Same with Baltimore
funny how that works eh?
Our Chicago shoot/kill score this last weekend was 62 shot, 7 killed.
Nice
good to see those strict gun laws of yours are really working
you know, it's crazy..
No secret that I like rap music -- and it's just nuts that every time I start to like a song out of a rapper coming outta chicago my son be like "dad, that dude been dead"
wtf?
Quote from: "Biggie Smiles" post_id=508834 time=1689881328 user_id=3214
Quote from: Reggie_Essent post_id=508832 time=1689881220 user_id=3378
Our Chicago shoot/kill score this last weekend was 62 shot, 7 killed.
Nice
good to see those strict gun laws of yours are really working
If the Italians were still running our street crime, there'd be fewer shootings but a much higher kill ratio.
Quote from: Reggie_Essent post_id=508836 time=1689881467 user_id=3378
If the Italians were still running our street crime, there'd be fewer shootings but a much higher kill ratio.
That's like the Hells Angels too. They know it's bad for business to involve innocent civilians into their business dealings, so they act accordingly.
I've seen videos of drive by shootings happening at funerals for victims of drive by shootings..
what the fuck?
Quote from: "Biggie Smiles" post_id=508838 time=1689881981 user_id=3214
I've seen videos of drive by shootings happening at funerals for victims of drive by shootings..
what the fuck?
Dat's dey culcha. Don't question it.
Gun bans sure worked there.
Quote from: Oerdin post_id=508842 time=1689882219 user_id=3374
Gun bans sure worked there.
We had many gun control debates when Britcktop was here. I have never owned any type of firearm in my life. I have never even touched a firearm. But, I have never seen a convincing argument in favour of a total firearms ban. I can be persuaded, but so far nobody has put up a convincing argument in favour of a sweeping ban.
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=508815 time=1689879494 user_id=3351
There goes shotguns for Kucked Kiwis. The will eventually have to spit on their leaders during a revolution because all their guns and knives will be confiscated.
Lol. Spitting on leaders.
I think they did that before guns existed in Medieval Europe
Guns are dangerous
They aren't toys....Lokmar!
Quote from: "Melson Gibson" post_id=508841 time=1689882173 user_id=3397
Quote from: "Biggie Smiles" post_id=508838 time=1689881981 user_id=3214
I've seen videos of drive by shootings happening at funerals for victims of drive by shootings..
what the fuck?
Dat's dey culcha. Don't question it.
But then they want reparations...
wake me a black man can walk the streets of chicago without being in imminent danger of being blasted by someone who looks just like him
Quote from: "Biggie Smiles" post_id=508838 time=1689881981 user_id=3214
I've seen videos of drive by shootings happening at funerals for victims of drive by shootings..
what the fuck?
Yeah, that just happened a couple weeks ago. It IS a cultural thang, as Mel points out. Todays gangstas have no honor.
Quote from: Reggie_Essent post_id=508836 time=1689881467 user_id=3378
Quote from: "Biggie Smiles" post_id=508834 time=1689881328 user_id=3214
Nice
good to see those strict gun laws of yours are really working
If the Italians were still running our street crime, there'd be fewer shootings but a much higher kill ratio.
In Chicago it is mostly black on black crime mostly gang related. It suck if you just happen to be at the wrong place at the wrong time though.
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Quote from: Lokmar post_id=508815 time=1689879494 user_id=3351
There goes shotguns for Kucked Kiwis. The will eventually have to spit on their leaders during a revolution because all their guns and knives will be confiscated.
Lol. Spitting on leaders.
I think they did that before guns existed in Medieval Europe
Guns are dangerous
They aren't toys....Lokmar!
Swords, pitchforks, and torches josephine. Read some fukin history FFS!
Quote from: DKG post_id=508845 time=1689882447 user_id=3390
We had many gun control debates when Britcktop was here. I have never owned any type of firearm in my life. I have never even touched a firearm. But, I have never seen a convincing argument in favour of a total firearms ban. I can be persuaded, but so far nobody has put up a convincing argument in favour of a sweeping ban.
I view firearms no differently than I view cars or knives. A required tool for many, a hobby for many more, life saving in certain situations, but dangerous when in the hands of moronic idiots.
Quote from: "Melson Gibson" post_id=508859 time=1689883314 user_id=3397
Quote from: DKG post_id=508845 time=1689882447 user_id=3390
We had many gun control debates when Britcktop was here. I have never owned any type of firearm in my life. I have never even touched a firearm. But, I have never seen a convincing argument in favour of a total firearms ban. I can be persuaded, but so far nobody has put up a convincing argument in favour of a sweeping ban.
I view firearms no differently than I view cars or knives. A required tool for many, a hobby for many more, life saving in certain situations, but dangerous when in the hands of moronic idiots.
That seems reaonable. This is where I am leaning on the subject because no gun confiscation advocate has put up a sound argument so far.
I'm thankful I live in America where politician blood will run high in the streets if they ever go the way of Australia, England, and New Zealand.
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=508866 time=1689883510 user_id=3351
I'm thankful I live in America where politician blood will run high in the streets if they ever go the way of Australia, England, and New Zealand.
Canada now too.
Quote from: DKG post_id=508867 time=1689883554 user_id=3390
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=508866 time=1689883510 user_id=3351
I'm thankful I live in America where politician blood will run high in the streets if they ever go the way of Australia, England, and New Zealand.
Canada now too.
Yea, I read recently that they're even trying to ban the lever action rifles the injuns use to hunt for food! Fuck that! Its way past time for them to start killing Canadian Politicians.
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=508871 time=1689883718 user_id=3351
Quote from: DKG post_id=508867 time=1689883554 user_id=3390
Canada now too.
Yea, I read recently that they're even trying to ban the lever action rifles the injuns use to hunt for food! Fuck that! Its way past time for them to start killing Canadian Politicians.
I don't know what lever action rifles are, but I will take your word for it.
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=508871 time=1689883718 user_id=3351
Yea, I read recently that they're even trying to ban the lever action rifles the injuns use to hunt for food! Fuck that! Its way past time for them to start killing Canadian Politicians.
That's not true. They're just focusing on prohibiting semi-auto center fire rifles, and freezing the sales of handguns.
Quote from: DKG post_id=508845 time=1689882447 user_id=3390
Quote from: Oerdin post_id=508842 time=1689882219 user_id=3374
Gun bans sure worked there.
We had many gun control debates when Britcktop was here. I have never owned any type of firearm in my life. I have never even touched a firearm. But, I have never seen a convincing argument in favour of a total firearms ban. I can be persuaded, but so far nobody has put up a convincing argument in favour of a sweeping ban.
There is no convincing argument for disarming free people. Only persons in favor of imposing tyranny favor disarming the public. Tyrants deserve death.
The slogan of the US Marine Corps is the latin slogan "Sic Semper Tyrannis," which is what Julius Caesar's assassin's are said to have shouted as they killed him.
The slogan translates as "Thus Always for Tyrants."
What the Romans really shouted as they freed themselves from tyranny and killed their last King was "Mortem ad Tyrannis."
Death to Tyrants.
That's what I say to anyone who favors disarming a free people.
Quote from: Reggie_Essent post_id=508883 time=1689884393 user_id=3378
Quote from: DKG post_id=508845 time=1689882447 user_id=3390
We had many gun control debates when Britcktop was here. I have never owned any type of firearm in my life. I have never even touched a firearm. But, I have never seen a convincing argument in favour of a total firearms ban. I can be persuaded, but so far nobody has put up a convincing argument in favour of a sweeping ban.
There is no convincing argument for disarming free people. Only persons in favor of imposing tyranny favor disarming the public. Tyrants deserve death.
The slogan of the US Marine Corps is the latin slogan "Sic Semper Tyrannis," which is what Julius Caesar's assassin's are said to have shouted as they killed him.
The slogan translates as "Thus Always for Tyrants."
What the Romans really shouted as they freed themselves from tyranny and killed their last King was "Mortem ad Tyrannis."
Death to Tyrants.
That's what I say to anyone who favors disarming a free people.
That is your position and it seems reasonable. I would like to see an argument in favour of banning firearms.
Quote from: DKG post_id=508886 time=1689884743 user_id=3390
That is your position and it seems reasonable. I would like to see an argument in favour of banning firearms.
If you, or anyone else, have time I'd like you to read this recent BC Supreme Court decision. These incidents often don't make the news, but are still a reality in even a peaceful country like Canada.
https://www.bccourts.ca/jdb-txt/sc/22/24/2022BCSC2454.htm
And because I know that people are out there like in above ruling, my home will be armed whether or not my government (who openly hates me) says I can or can't. My safety on my own property is my business, and no one else's...
Quote from: "Melson Gibson" post_id=508891 time=1689885759 user_id=3397
Quote from: DKG post_id=508886 time=1689884743 user_id=3390
That is your position and it seems reasonable. I would like to see an argument in favour of banning firearms.
If you, or anyone else, have time I'd like you to read this recent BC Supreme Court decision. These incidents often don't make the news, but are still a reality in even a peaceful country like Canada.
https://www.bccourts.ca/jdb-txt/sc/22/24/2022BCSC2454.htm
And because I know that people are out there like in above ruling, my home will be armed whether or not my government (who openly hates me) says I can or can't. My safety on my own property is my business, and no one else's...
Thanks for the link.
Quote from: Reggie_Essent post_id=508814 time=1689879431 user_id=3378
I thought the Kiwis were all disarmed?
Drugs are behind all these killings.
New Zealand is targeted by Sth American drug cartels.
Quote from: Reggie_Essent post_id=508883 time=1689884393 user_id=3378
Quote from: DKG post_id=508845 time=1689882447 user_id=3390
We had many gun control debates when Britcktop was here. I have never owned any type of firearm in my life. I have never even touched a firearm. But, I have never seen a convincing argument in favour of a total firearms ban. I can be persuaded, but so far nobody has put up a convincing argument in favour of a sweeping ban.
There is no convincing argument for disarming free people. Only persons in favor of imposing tyranny favor disarming the public. Tyrants deserve death.
The slogan of the US Marine Corps is the latin slogan "Sic Semper Tyrannis," which is what Julius Caesar's assassin's are said to have shouted as they killed him.
The slogan translates as "Thus Always for Tyrants."
What the Romans really shouted as they freed themselves from tyranny and killed their last King was "Mortem ad Tyrannis."
Death to Tyrants.
That's what I say to anyone who favors disarming a free people.
WHEN Russians murdered their royal family the leaders behind the coup ended up living in the Czars Palace...
Those murderers of Caesar are no different to the tyrant they killed. Don't romanticise assassinations. That is a mistake.
Quote from: DKG post_id=508874 time=1689883800 user_id=3390
I don't know what lever action rifles are...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsitJZUcFL4
Quote from: "Melson Gibson" post_id=508859 time=1689883314 user_id=3397
Quote from: DKG post_id=508845 time=1689882447 user_id=3390
We had many gun control debates when Britcktop was here. I have never owned any type of firearm in my life. I have never even touched a firearm. But, I have never seen a convincing argument in favour of a total firearms ban. I can be persuaded, but so far nobody has put up a convincing argument in favour of a sweeping ban.
I view firearms no differently than I view cars or knives. A required tool for many, a hobby for many more, life saving in certain situations, but dangerous when in the hands of moronic idiots.
And we aren't allowed to commit euthanasia on morons.
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Quote from: Reggie_Essent post_id=508814 time=1689879431 user_id=3378
I thought the Kiwis were all disarmed?
Drugs are behind all these killings.
New Zealand is targeted by Sth American drug cartels.
The drugs will go wherever there is demand for them. It will be interesting if I see what this Maori kids beef was about, but they might sweep it under the rug the way the media reports these days.
Quote from: Reggie_Essent post_id=508905 time=1689888381 user_id=3378
The drugs will go wherever there is demand for them. It will be interesting if I see what this Maori kids beef was about, but they might sweep it under the rug the way the media reports these days.
The Maori was under some kind of house arrest for violent crimes, but was allowed to leave for work. My guess is that he tried to act hard with the construction crew he started working with, and they smartened him up fast.
And as a Maori, being negro-like, don't take kindly to being 'dissed', since their egos are fragile as they know they'll never manage to be equal to the White man, had to exact revenge the only way he thought he could... with a shotgun.
Quote from: "Melson Gibson" post_id=508908 time=1689888926 user_id=3397
Quote from: Reggie_Essent post_id=508905 time=1689888381 user_id=3378
The drugs will go wherever there is demand for them. It will be interesting if I see what this Maori kids beef was about, but they might sweep it under the rug the way the media reports these days.
The Maori was under some kind of house arrest for violent crimes, but was allowed to leave for work. My guess is that he tried to act hard with the construction crew he started working with, and they smartened him up fast.
And as a Maori, being negro-like, don't take kindly to being 'dissed', since their egos are fragile as they know they'll never manage to be equal to the White man, had to exact revenge the only way he thought he could... with a shotgun.
BIPOCs, as the Wokies call them, seem to be a bit touchy about shit like that. It couldn't be that their heads are filled with the refrain that they'e all victims of evil white people all their lives in school, could it?
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BIPOCs, as the Wokies call them, seem to be a bit touchy about shit like that. It couldn't be that their heads are filled with the refrain that they'e all victims of evil white people all their lives in school, could it?
That certainly could be a contributing factor, no doubt.
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Quote from: caskur post_id=508899 time=1689887467 user_id=2156
Drugs are behind all these killings.
New Zealand is targeted by Sth American drug cartels.
The drugs will go wherever there is demand for them. It will be interesting if I see what this Maori kids beef was about, but they might sweep it under the rug the way the media reports these days.
It about drugs or not being able to get money for drugs... we've had HUGE success in busting imports recently. New Zealand is between us and Sth America.... the drugs are floating around in international waters and boats go out to meet them. We have some really amazing drug bust stories but I cannot be bothered posting the news stories. These days c&p seems like too much effort.
It's actually funny watching Lily get all stirred up about whites wanting their own nation.
Quote from: "Melson Gibson" post_id=508908 time=1689888926 user_id=3397
Quote from: Reggie_Essent post_id=508905 time=1689888381 user_id=3378
The drugs will go wherever there is demand for them. It will be interesting if I see what this Maori kids beef was about, but they might sweep it under the rug the way the media reports these days.
The Maori was under some kind of house arrest for violent crimes, but was allowed to leave for work. My guess is that he tried to act hard with the construction crew he started working with, and they smartened him up fast.
And as a Maori, being negro-like, don't take kindly to being 'dissed', since their egos are fragile as they know they'll never manage to be equal to the White man, had to exact revenge the only way he thought he could... with a shotgun.
Maori are really good workers. Their bodies are stacked and they're built for work.
Quote from: caskur post_id=508917 time=1689890403 user_id=2156
It's actually funny watching Lily get all stirred up about whites wanting their own nation.
And the funniest part is she's almost a pure blood white Spaniard. Even her birth certificate says "white" on it as she admitted to me once.
Quote from: caskur post_id=508919 time=1689890539 user_id=2156
Maori are really good workers. Their bodies are stacked and they're built for work.
I don't buy it. Just like our Injuns, sure, the odd ones get their lazy asses off the reserve and actually work and contribute, but as a whole they're your stereotypical bums.
White people see one Injun working and think, "Boy, they're upstanding contributing members of society!" When in reality, as a group they're not.
Quote from: "Melson Gibson" post_id=508875 time=1689883859 user_id=3397
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=508871 time=1689883718 user_id=3351
Yea, I read recently that they're even trying to ban the lever action rifles the injuns use to hunt for food! Fuck that! Its way past time for them to start killing Canadian Politicians.
That's not true. They're just focusing on prohibiting semi-auto center fire rifles, and freezing the sales of handguns.
Towards the end of last year, I read an article about the proposed law that would include bans on lever actions. They interviewed some Candudhduh injuns who were ready to go on the warpath about it. I suppose they could have walked all that shit back but it was at least proposed.
Quote from: "Melson Gibson" post_id=508922 time=1689891872 user_id=3397
Quote from: caskur post_id=508919 time=1689890539 user_id=2156
Maori are really good workers. Their bodies are stacked and they're built for work.
I don't buy it. Just like our Injuns, sure, the odd ones get their lazy asses off the reserve and actually work and contribute, but as a whole they're your stereotypical bums.
White people see one Injun working and think, "Boy, they're upstanding contributing members of society!" When in reality, as a group they're not.
I promise you... they are nothing like abos... Maori are workers. Don't get the wrong impression by that movie Once Were Warriors...3 Maori guys did our colourbond iron roof...
When Europeans found New Zealand, the Maori were clothed and lived in permanent dwellings unlike abos who were naked and had NO permanent dwelling.
Maori are good!!!
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Quote from: caskur post_id=508917 time=1689890403 user_id=2156
It's actually funny watching Lily get all stirred up about whites wanting their own nation.
And the funniest part is she's almost a pure blood white Spaniard. Even her birth certificate says "white" on it as she admitted to me once.
Like skanky MeAgain Markle... she had Caucasian on her driver's license... she is only 20% African. She was struck the pale lottery so said the American comedian... I don't know his name.
Markle bronzes up her face now but her white freckly skin on her chicken neck arms and hand are almost as white as Harry.
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=508923 time=1689891989 user_id=3351
Towards the end of last year, I read an article about the proposed law that would include bans on lever actions. They interviewed some Candudhduh injuns who were ready to go on the warpath about it. I suppose they could have walked all that shit back but it was at least proposed.
A lot of people were spewing false info, simply because not even the government was clear about their intentions initially, or vague at the very least, so as usual people started jumping to conclusions.
The prohibition specifically targets semi-auto center fire long guns. That specific class. Basically AR style firearms. There are exceptions though, such as the SKS, which is still OK to shoot.
And a handgun freeze. What you own you can still shoot, but you cannot buy any more nor sell what you have. Basically an extreme version of Grandfathering for handguns.
Quote from: "Melson Gibson" post_id=508930 time=1689894404 user_id=3397
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=508923 time=1689891989 user_id=3351
Towards the end of last year, I read an article about the proposed law that would include bans on lever actions. They interviewed some Candudhduh injuns who were ready to go on the warpath about it. I suppose they could have walked all that shit back but it was at least proposed.
A lot of people were spewing false info, simply because not even the government was clear about their intentions initially, or vague at the very least, so as usual people started jumping to conclusions.
The prohibition specifically targets semi-auto center fire long guns. That specific class. Basically AR style firearms. There are exceptions though, such as the SKS, which is still OK to shoot.
And a handgun freeze. What you own you can still shoot, but you cannot buy any more nor sell what you have. Basically an extreme version of Grandfathering for handguns.
Do the handguns have to be registered and do they have to be turned in to the government when you die?
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=508947 time=1689899492 user_id=3351
Quote from: "Melson Gibson" post_id=508930 time=1689894404 user_id=3397
A lot of people were spewing false info, simply because not even the government was clear about their intentions initially, or vague at the very least, so as usual people started jumping to conclusions.
The prohibition specifically targets semi-auto center fire long guns. That specific class. Basically AR style firearms. There are exceptions though, such as the SKS, which is still OK to shoot.
And a handgun freeze. What you own you can still shoot, but you cannot buy any more nor sell what you have. Basically an extreme version of Grandfathering for handguns.
Do the handguns have to be registered and do they have to be turned in to the government when you die?
They have to be registered and no you do not have ti surrender them when you die. The new rules for restricted PAL's I don't know.
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=508947 time=1689899492 user_id=3351
Quote from: "Melson Gibson" post_id=508930 time=1689894404 user_id=3397
A lot of people were spewing false info, simply because not even the government was clear about their intentions initially, or vague at the very least, so as usual people started jumping to conclusions.
The prohibition specifically targets semi-auto center fire long guns. That specific class. Basically AR style firearms. There are exceptions though, such as the SKS, which is still OK to shoot.
And a handgun freeze. What you own you can still shoot, but you cannot buy any more nor sell what you have. Basically an extreme version of Grandfathering for handguns.
Do the handguns have to be registered and do they have to be turned in to the government when you die?
"Registered?"
Oh yeah, that FOID thingie. (Shrugs) Never cared. It's an infringement. It's a "Shall Not" thing in the Constitution, therefore our Illinois Constitution of 1971 violates the US Constitution.
At least, that's what I'd argue if I ever get dragged into Court for owning weapons I don't have. Who would have unregistered firearms when it's against the law to possess them?
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For those interested in exactly how jackbooted Cucknadia's goobermints is. WOW! You people need to assassinate your leaders PRONTO!!!
https://thegunblog.ca/2018/07/25/how-to-buy-a-handgun-in-canada-regulatory-and-procedural-steps/
https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/firearms-armes-a-feu/firearms-reference-table-tableau-reference-armes-feu-eng.htm#s2
https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releases/2022/05/30/further-strengthening-our-gun-control-laws
National "freeze" on handguns
A national freeze on the sale, purchase or transfer of handguns by individuals within Canada, and bringing newly-acquired handguns into Canada came into force by regulations on October 21, 2022.
Individuals can continue to possess and use their registered handguns and can sell or transfer their registered handguns to exempted individuals or businesses.
https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/gun-control
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=508947 time=1689899492 user_id=3351
Do the handguns have to be registered and do they have to be turned in to the government when you die?
Yes, handguns have to be registered, with some old antiques being exempt from those requirements.
Under the new rules, an executor would be expected to turn the handguns over to the police upon your death, since at this time handguns can neither be bought nor sold, meaning they cannot be transferred over to anyone.
That said, our gun laws aren't set in stone, and any government can easily amend these rules, for better or for worse.
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Quote from: Lokmar post_id=508947 time=1689899492 user_id=3351
Do the handguns have to be registered and do they have to be turned in to the government when you die?
"Registered?"
Oh yeah, that FOID thingie. (Shrugs) Never cared. It's an infringement. It's a "Shall Not" thing in the Constitution, therefore our Illinois Constitution of 1971 violates the US Constitution.
At least, that's what I'd argue if I ever get dragged into Court for owning weapons I don't have. Who would have unregistered firearms when it's against the law to possess them?
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Yea, Illinois is trying to be like Cucknadia. I'm supposed to register any AR's I might have starting in October. As if! LMFAO!
Quote from: "Melson Gibson" post_id=508960 time=1689901427 user_id=3397
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=508947 time=1689899492 user_id=3351
Do the handguns have to be registered and do they have to be turned in to the government when you die?
Yes, handguns have to be registered, with some old antiques being exempt from those requirements.
Under the new rules, an executor would be expected to turn the handguns over to the police upon your death, since at this time handguns can neither be bought nor sold, meaning they cannot be transferred over to anyone.
That said, our gun laws aren't set in stone, and any government can easily amend these rules, for better or for worse.
Oh, you can bet your sweet ass that they'll get worse and in 20 years, you'll be lucky to own bolt action .22LR's. Fuck, you already have to apply for a permit to transfer a gun from place to place, it has to be within a reasonable path (whatever they decide that means) to the destination, and the gun has to then be locked up and unloaded.
You people already lost the war. You're as fucked as those slaves in Australia.
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=508962 time=1689901525 user_id=3351
Yea, Illinois is trying to be like Cucknadia. I'm supposed to register any AR's I might have starting in October. As if! LMFAO!
Never register anything you don't have to. The only reason our "AR Style" prohibition isn't going to go as smoothly as they think it may, is because the majority of them didn't require registration. The government literally doesn't know who owns what, and that's a good thing.
Quote from: "Melson Gibson" post_id=508965 time=1689901752 user_id=3397
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=508962 time=1689901525 user_id=3351
Yea, Illinois is trying to be like Cucknadia. I'm supposed to register any AR's I might have starting in October. As if! LMFAO!
Never register anything you don't have to. The only reason our "AR Style" prohibition isn't going to go as smoothly as they think it may, is because the majority of them didn't require registration. The government literally doesn't know who owns what, and that's a good thing.
Yea, everyone I know to own AR's and such, I ask, are you going to register? They either say "HELL NO!" or "register what?".
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=508964 time=1689901696 user_id=3351
Fuck, you already have to apply for a permit to transfer a gun from place to place, it has to be within a reasonable path (whatever they decide that means) to the destination, and the gun has to then be locked up and unloaded.
That's just for handguns. Basically they just want you to be traveling back and forth to gun ranges with it, and if you're moving you get an authorization to transport so if you're caught with a handgun in some weird place, you have a reason to possess it due to moving to new house.
Quote from: "Melson Gibson" post_id=508968 time=1689902093 user_id=3397
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=508964 time=1689901696 user_id=3351
Fuck, you already have to apply for a permit to transfer a gun from place to place, it has to be within a reasonable path (whatever they decide that means) to the destination, and the gun has to then be locked up and unloaded.
That's just for handguns. Basically they just want you to be traveling back and forth to gun ranges with it, and if you're moving you get an authorization to transport so if you're caught with a handgun in some weird place, you have a reason to possess it due to moving to new house.
I guess I'd have to read it again but I thought that applied to any gun on the restricted list?
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=508969 time=1689902369 user_id=3351
I guess I'd have to read it again but I thought that applied to any gun on the restricted list?
Handguns are generally in the restricted class here (although there are prohibited handgun owners here too that have been Grandfathered in and can still shoot those handguns also).
The "AR style" ban actually prohibited these AR Style rifles, but with those there is no provision to use them, even at the range. They literally cannot leave your house.
But, for these newly prohibited rifles, there is an amnesty period (currently until Oct. 2023, but it'll probably be extended, again) where simply possessing them won't lead to criminal charges, so you should be safe to throw it in your trunk trigger locked and in a locked case, and not have any problems if you're moving, which is the transport requirement for restricted/prohibited.
Our government really didn't think this through. The new gun ban was implemented in May 2020, if you can believe that. And here we are over three years later, still stuck in limbo. There's been no buy-back scheme initiated, nothing. They just keep extending the amnesty period.
And all John can do with his Mini-14 is handle it in his living room.
After the mass shooting in Christchurch, didn't New Zealand pass very restrictive gun legislation?
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After the mass shooting in Christchurch, didn't New Zealand pass very restrictive gun legislation?
Yea, that cunt PM pretty much banned a fuckload of stuff. Bet your ass though that plenty of Kiwi's still have AR rifles stowed away in case they need to mass murder their leaders.
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=509022 time=1689914677 user_id=3351
Bet your ass though that plenty of Kiwi's still have AR rifles stowed away in case they need to mass murder their leaders.
Kiwi's had similar regs as we did, in that most of those 'AR Style' rifles didn't require registration, so like us, their government doesn't really know who owns what, and that's a good thing.
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=509022 time=1689914677 user_id=3351
Quote from: Thiel post_id=509018 time=1689914424 user_id=1688
After the mass shooting in Christchurch, didn't New Zealand pass very restrictive gun legislation?
Yea, that cunt PM pretty much banned a fuckload of stuff. Bet your ass though that plenty of Kiwi's still have AR rifles stowed away in case they need to mass murder their leaders.
People who want to keep their guns will not be enticed or threatend by buy back mandates.
Quote from: Thiel post_id=509030 time=1689915166 user_id=1688
Quote from: Lokmar post_id=509022 time=1689914677 user_id=3351
Yea, that cunt PM pretty much banned a fuckload of stuff. Bet your ass though that plenty of Kiwi's still have AR rifles stowed away in case they need to mass murder their leaders.
People who want to keep their guns will not be enticed or threatend by buy back mandates.
Except Canadians, Australians, and UK residents.
They crumbled like chalk...
Quote from: Frood post_id=509041 time=1689919244 user_id=1676
Except Canadians, Australians, and UK residents.
They crumbled like chalk...
You should educate yourself before speaking. Nothing has been turned in, in this country. And most likely nothing will ever be turned in.
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Quote from: Frood post_id=509041 time=1689919244 user_id=1676
Except Canadians, Australians, and UK residents.
They crumbled like chalk...
You should educate yourself before speaking. Nothing has been turned in, in this country. And most likely nothing will ever be turned in.
So where did all the firearms deemed now or then illegal go afterwards? They simply didn't just vanish into thin air. Canadians enjoyed relatively unfettered access to all manner of firearms... now they don't.
Where did they all go, Lassie? Down the well with Timmy?
Quote from: Frood post_id=509045 time=1689920851 user_id=1676
So where did all the firearms deemed now or then illegal go afterwards? They simply didn't just vanish into thin air. Canadians enjoyed relatively unfettered access to all manner of firearms... now they don't.
Where did they all go, Lassie? Down the well with Timmy?
They are in our homes, waiting for an outcome of a now three year long "ban"...
Timmy.
Quote from: "Melson Gibson" post_id=509050 time=1689921607 user_id=3397
Quote from: Frood post_id=509045 time=1689920851 user_id=1676
So where did all the firearms deemed now or then illegal go afterwards? They simply didn't just vanish into thin air. Canadians enjoyed relatively unfettered access to all manner of firearms... now they don't.
Where did they all go, Lassie? Down the well with Timmy?
They are in our homes, waiting for an outcome of a now three year long "ban"...
Timmy.
So you've gotten a temporary reprieve from crumbling like chalk eventually?
Quote from: Frood post_id=509051 time=1689922509 user_id=1676
So you've gotten a temporary reprieve from crumbling like chalk eventually?
Nobody knows.
Some gun owners want the promised buyback scheme to materialize, so they can get some money for their guns and buy something that they can legally shoot.
But, after three years, nothing has materialized. I don't think Canada has the money to implement a buyback (we went woke, so we're broke), and going door-to-door asking about firearms isn't something they want to contemplate.
No other gun ban has ever functioned in this manner. And come October, they'll simply just extend the amnesty once again.