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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: Anonymous on June 15, 2014, 12:44:51 PM

Title: IMHOtep
Post by: Anonymous on June 15, 2014, 12:44:51 PM
I thought it was mimi, but I guess it isn't. Bob/Pat has little tolerance for non-white conservatives, so it must be him.



What an intolerant braindead asshole!!
Title: Re: IMHOtep=RACIST ASSHOLE!!
Post by: keeper on June 15, 2014, 12:47:44 PM
Bake him cookies?
Title: Re: IMHOtep=RACIST ASSHOLE!!
Post by: Anonymous on June 15, 2014, 12:52:42 PM
Quote from: "Keeper"Bake him cookies?

If you are not an old white socialist, Bob will not allow you to post on Blurt's forum.
Title: Re: IMHOtep=RACIST ASSHOLE!!
Post by: Anonymous on June 15, 2014, 01:07:21 PM
Imhotep wrote:
QuoteIt's pretty simple: those members who intentionally and continuously seek to be disruptive and trollish will be given the boot.

Translation, intelligent Asian conservatives are not welcome on Stormfront lite.
Title: Re: IMHOtep=RACIST ASSHOLE!!
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2014, 12:15:46 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"Imhotep wrote:
QuoteIt's pretty simple: those members who intentionally and continuously seek to be disruptive and trollish will be given the boot.

Translation, intelligent Asian conservatives are not welcome on Stormfront lite.

I don't feel this particular moderator is a racist..



But, your banning seemed unfair.
Title: Re: IMHOtep=RACIST ASSHOLE!!
Post by: RW on June 16, 2014, 01:40:32 AM
I think it was more your potty mouth that got you canned my dear :)
Title: Re: IMHOtep=RACIST ASSHOLE!!
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2014, 02:33:10 AM
Quote from: "Real Woman"I think it was more your potty mouth that got you canned my dear :)

You mean comments like "idiotic homo"?
Title: Re: IMHOtep=RACIST ASSHOLE!!
Post by: jaysings on June 16, 2014, 03:14:21 AM
I thought most racists had all been extinct in Canada. Your banning tells me that I'm too naive.
Title: Re: IMHOtep=RACIST ASSHOLE!!
Post by: RW on June 16, 2014, 03:32:54 AM
She wasn't banned because of racism.
Title: Re: IMHOtep=RACIST ASSHOLE!!
Post by: Gary Oak on June 16, 2014, 09:09:09 AM
Quote from: "jaysings"I thought most racists had all been extinct in Canada. Your banning tells me that I'm too naive.


        Calling natives HUNG FAN isn't racist ? Calling blacks HAK KWAI isn't racist ? Calling whites [ that you asked to let you in LO FAN or KWAILO isn't racist ? You oriental guys aren't very openly racist but you are just as racist as the most racist people in Canada.
Title: Re: IMHOtep=RACIST ASSHOLE!!
Post by: Renee on June 16, 2014, 12:14:53 PM
Quote from: "Real Woman"I think it was more your potty mouth that got you canned my dear :)


I don't believe it; I'm so shocked.  :lol:
Title: Re: IMHOtep=RACIST ASSHOLE!!
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2014, 01:23:11 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Real Woman"I think it was more your potty mouth that got you canned my dear :)


I don't believe it; I'm so shocked.  :lol:

They don't value diversity of opinion. Oh well, what can you say about a forum that houses GrandmaP? He's almost as wise as he is masculine. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: IMHOtep=RACIST ASSHOLE!!
Post by: jaysings on June 16, 2014, 02:31:01 PM
Quote from: "Gary Oak"
Quote from: "jaysings"I thought most racists had all been extinct in Canada. Your banning tells me that I'm too naive.


        Calling natives HUNG FAN isn't racist ? Calling blacks HAK KWAI isn't racist ? Calling whites [ that you asked to let you in LO FAN or KWAILO isn't racist ? You oriental guys aren't very openly racist but you are just as racist as the most racist people in Canada.


Back in 16th century what were our ancestors supposed to call those foreigners? The given names are all being passed down to new generations as a cultural heritage. I, as the new generation,was barely aware of its connotation of the caucasians, natives, or blacks, and we call them those names the way exactly like you call them "Caucasians","natives",and "blacks" in English. We don't use the names to neither curse or insult any races deliberately. If I knew what they mean at the first place, I would never use them.
Title: Re: IMHOtep=RACIST ASSHOLE!!
Post by: Renee on June 16, 2014, 03:03:31 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Real Woman"I think it was more your potty mouth that got you canned my dear :)


I don't believe it; I'm so shocked.  :lol:

They don't value diversity of opinion. Oh well, what can you say about a forum that houses GrandmaP? He's almost as wise as he is masculine. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Shen from what I've seen the whole forum is just a rehash of VF, only it swings even further to the left.  :?  :lol:



You automatically piss people of just by showing your face around there.  :lol:
Title: Re: IMHOtep=RACIST ASSHOLE!!
Post by: Romero on June 16, 2014, 04:54:43 PM
Quote from: "Gary Oak"
Quote from: "jaysings"I thought most racists had all been extinct in Canada. Your banning tells me that I'm too naive.


        Calling natives HUNG FAN isn't racist ? Calling blacks HAK KWAI isn't racist ? Calling whites [ that you asked to let you in LO FAN or KWAILO isn't racist ? You oriental guys aren't very openly racist but you are just as racist as the most racist people in Canada.

jaysings has never said anything racist, but you say racist things all the time.



Pretending that others are more racist than you is no excuse.
Title: Re: IMHOtep=RACIST ASSHOLE!!
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2014, 07:29:06 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"


I don't believe it; I'm so shocked.  :lol:

They don't value diversity of opinion. Oh well, what can you say about a forum that houses GrandmaP? He's almost as wise as he is masculine. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Shen from what I've seen the whole forum is just a rehash of VF, only it swings even further to the left.  :?  :lol:



You automatically piss people of just by showing your face around there.  :lol:

Shen Li is angry right now..



But she did not deserve to be banned..



That forum is not better off without her presence.
Title: Re: IMHOtep=RACIST ASSHOLE!!
Post by: RW on June 17, 2014, 12:45:45 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"


I don't believe it; I'm so shocked.  :lol:

They don't value diversity of opinion. Oh well, what can you say about a forum that houses GrandmaP? He's almost as wise as he is masculine. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Shen from what I've seen the whole forum is just a rehash of VF, only it swings even further to the left.  :?  :lol:



You automatically piss people of just by showing your face around there.  :lol:

Where are all these leftist threads?  I'm not seeing much political debate for said leaning to show.
Title: Re: IMHOtep=RACIST ASSHOLE!!
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2014, 01:20:45 PM
Quote from: "Real Woman"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
They don't value diversity of opinion. Oh well, what can you say about a forum that houses GrandmaP? He's almost as wise as he is masculine. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Shen from what I've seen the whole forum is just a rehash of VF, only it swings even further to the left.  :?  :lol:



You automatically piss people of just by showing your face around there.  :lol:

Where are all these leftist threads?  I'm not seeing much political debate for said leaning to show.

Nobody to debate when those that disagree are sent packing.
Title: Re: IMHOtep=RACIST ASSHOLE!!
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2014, 07:23:30 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Real Woman"
Quote from: "Renee"


Shen from what I've seen the whole forum is just a rehash of VF, only it swings even further to the left.  :?  :lol:



You automatically piss people of just by showing your face around there.  :lol:

Where are all these leftist threads?  I'm not seeing much political debate for said leaning to show.

Nobody to debate when those that disagree are sent packing.

Thank you for changing the title of this thread.

 :)
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: RW on June 17, 2014, 11:17:11 PM
Shen.  Darling.  You weren't sent packing for disagreeing.  You were sent packing because you were being an insulting, mouthy little turd.
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: Anonymous on June 18, 2014, 02:16:11 AM
Quote from: "Real Woman"Shen.  Darling.  You weren't sent packing for disagreeing.  You were sent packing because you were being an insulting, mouthy little turd.

That is not a good enough reason to ban someone especially considering the mods presence in the offending thread was not required..



Shen Li and Gay Boy Bob were insulting each other and that's fine, they are both adults..



Imhotep's refereeing services were not needed at all..



There's not that many posters there and since nobody is posting porn, gore or personal information, Imhotep's green jacket is not required period.
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: RW on June 18, 2014, 04:32:24 AM
I would have banned her on principle for the racism shit. *wagging finger*
Title: Re: IMHOtep=RACIST ASSHOLE!!
Post by: Renee on June 18, 2014, 10:07:24 AM
Quote from: "Real Woman"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
They don't value diversity of opinion. Oh well, what can you say about a forum that houses GrandmaP? He's almost as wise as he is masculine. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Shen from what I've seen the whole forum is just a rehash of VF, only it swings even further to the left.  :?  :lol:



You automatically piss people of just by showing your face around there.  :lol:

Where are all these leftist threads?  I'm not seeing much political debate for said leaning to show.


I'm not talking about the threads. I'm talking about the known ideology of the members.



They are a bunch of the usual players, so it doesn't take a brain surgen to figure out that the enviornment, social or political, will be pretty predictable. Don't play dumb with me; that's beneath you and insulting to what little intelligence I have.
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: RW on June 18, 2014, 11:34:43 AM
I can't tell you how sick I am of this leftie / rightie shit.
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: Renee on June 18, 2014, 11:43:51 AM
Quote from: "Real Woman"I can't tell you how sick I am of this leftie / rightie shit.


Unfortunately it is a fact of sociopolitical life and interaction between people of opposing ideologies. Don't like it, then don't engage and move on.



Don't know what else to tell you.
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: keeper on June 18, 2014, 01:39:59 PM
Quote from: "Real Woman"I can't tell you how sick I am of this leftie / rightie shit.




Im right handed , Left on occasion  :o  :lol:
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: RW on June 18, 2014, 02:00:39 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Real Woman"I can't tell you how sick I am of this leftie / rightie shit.


Unfortunately it is a fact of sociopolitical life and interaction between people of opposing ideologies. Don't like it, then don't engage and move on.



Don't know what else to tell you.

What I mean is how you get pegged as one or the other then that stereotype is applied without thought or reason.  It's rather silly.
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: Anonymous on June 18, 2014, 02:03:24 PM
Quote from: "Real Woman"Shen.  Darling.  You weren't sent packing for disagreeing.  You were sent packing because you were being an insulting, mouthy little turd.

In other words, I was being myself. ;)
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: Anonymous on June 18, 2014, 02:38:23 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"Imhotep's refereeing services were not needed at all.

What the fuck did you expect? The same thing would happen here if those catty, self-righteous, effeminate dickheads GP or Bob registered here and got into an argument with Renee or CC. Munday would swiftly ban them and we would say they had it coming. The only difference would be that OL doesn't need to conceal his forum handle behind a pretty green dress like IAMHOMO. It doesn't matter though as neither of them nor Dick Yamada has the balls to post here even though I am sure they read us regularly.



What is this about merging the two of us? Newsflash, it will never fucking happen. There is a reason Renee, CC or OL haven't joined there and Bob/GP haven't registered here. I actually like Blurt, but some of his posters rub us the wrong way and vice versa.



Just let it go ffs. I don't care I was banned and I understand. I am not going to kiss IAMHOMO's ass to stay. As I said, I can pretty much guarantee the same would happen to one of them if they registered here and started arguing with one of us.
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: Renee on June 18, 2014, 03:40:25 PM
Quote from: "Real Woman"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Real Woman"I can't tell you how sick I am of this leftie / rightie shit.


Unfortunately it is a fact of sociopolitical life and interaction between people of opposing ideologies. Don't like it, then don't engage and move on.



Don't know what else to tell you.

What I mean is how you get pegged as one or the other then that stereotype is applied without thought or reason.  It's rather silly.


I guess I can see your point because it's only a few of us that are overwhelmingly left or right. But you have to admit that it's not a stretch to apply the stereotypes when it comes to certain people.
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: Obvious Li on June 18, 2014, 07:36:54 PM
Quote from: "Real Woman"I can't tell you how sick I am of this leftie / rightie shit.






JFC....in my life i have never met a liberal who A) would admit it and B) was proud of it.....so FFS why do you aspire to be on if you are so shit scared of actually owning up to it...me and my conservative pals are PROUD to be cons...we love it...we proclaim it from the roof tops....so maybe the problem is you can't seem to reconcile the rhetoric you spout with the facts.....don't be ashamed...never met a leftie yet that could
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: Obvious Li on June 18, 2014, 07:40:09 PM
and oh by the way....saying you are sick of it and/or it doesn't exist is just a chickenshit way of admitting you realize your position is untenable.....i coulda told you that 20 fucking years ago...cheers toots
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: Anonymous on June 18, 2014, 08:12:57 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Real Woman"
Quote from: "Renee"


Unfortunately it is a fact of sociopolitical life and interaction between people of opposing ideologies. Don't like it, then don't engage and move on.



Don't know what else to tell you.

What I mean is how you get pegged as one or the other then that stereotype is applied without thought or reason.  It's rather silly.


I guess I can see your point because it's only a few of us that are overwhelmingly left or right. But you have to admit that it's not a stretch to apply the stereotypes when it comes to certain people.

I have never understood why anyone could get into an argument about something like politics?



But, then I am apolitical and I realize some people are very passionate about politics..



I did not know you were one of them Renee?
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: reel on June 18, 2014, 08:21:54 PM
I can't believe you thought it was Mimi.



Politics is a fool's game.  I can't stand politicians.  They are arrogant, power hungry, and incompetent regardless of political bent.



I'll second RW that the leftie/rightie schtik is tired and boring.  It reminds me of avid sports fans.



Those three statements were entirely unrelated.
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: Anonymous on June 18, 2014, 08:27:01 PM
Quote from: "reel"I can't believe you thought it was Mimi.



Politics is a fool's game.  I can't stand politicians.  They are arrogant, power hungry, and incompetent regardless of political bent.



I'll second RW that the leftie/rightie schtik is tired and boring.  It reminds me of avid sports fans.



Those three statements were entirely unrelated.


I will third that reel..



Welcome to our little discussion group..



It is very nice to meet you.

 :)
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: Anonymous on June 19, 2014, 01:50:42 AM
Quote from: "Real Woman"I can't tell you how sick I am of this leftie / rightie shit.

As I am I. People that label others or worse take sides based on what side of the spectrum an issue falls on.
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: Obvious Li on June 19, 2014, 03:55:14 AM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Real Woman"I can't tell you how sick I am of this leftie / rightie shit.

As I am I. People that label others or worse take sides based on what side of the spectrum an issue falls on.




there is a reason this country went from being a world power to a third world shithole over the last 50 years....and it relates directly to the rightie/leftie issue......so you should fucking care about rightie/leftie....... it affects everything you do every day of your life
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: Renee on June 19, 2014, 09:13:42 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Real Woman"
What I mean is how you get pegged as one or the other then that stereotype is applied without thought or reason.  It's rather silly.


I guess I can see your point because it's only a few of us that are overwhelmingly left or right. But you have to admit that it's not a stretch to apply the stereotypes when it comes to certain people.

I have never understood why anyone could get into an argument about something like politics?



But, then I am apolitical and I realize some people are very passionate about politics..



I did not know you were one of them Renee?


It's not just limited to politics or politicians; there are social aspects of the left/right issue that are directly affected and cause by following one ideology or the other. You cannot really ignore how these ideological issues affect your life.

 

I understand that you are not political but hopefully you understand that politics creates the policies and laws that affect us all in our daily lives. It's not that I'm passionate about politics, I just think it is prudent to be aware of who or what is fucking me over or reaching into my wallet.
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: Anonymous on June 19, 2014, 12:11:47 PM
Quote from: "reel"I can't believe you thought it was Mimi.

Hey, nice to see ya stud.  :D  :D  :D



I was really pissed at the time and mimi just happened to be around. Next time you are on Blurt's forum, tell mimi I am sorry about that and I hope no hard feelings.



I do not apologize about anything I said to straight white boy Bob though. I joined that forum in good faith. I had no intentions of trolling or disrupting anything. If Bob had said that about my grandpa in real life, I would've ripped his adam's apple out his left nostril. He's a cowardly scumbag, so he would never have the stones to say shit like that to my face.



I am banned there, but Bob is free to post. I like Blurt, but he can stick his fucking hyper-biased forum up his ass sideways. :x
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: RW on June 19, 2014, 02:35:01 PM
I'm not afraid to own up to anything Munday but the fact that you wear your ignorance like a badge of honour is fitting.



I tend to be more issue based in my political opinions and don't subscribe to one ideology.  Sound decisions and ideas come from all sides so why would I be so stupid as to ignore something reasonable because it doesn't come from the "side" I'm on?  That may work for you, but it doesn't work for me.
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: RW on June 19, 2014, 02:35:59 PM
Shen...



Diplomacy - the art of telling people to go fuck themselves and not getting banned :)
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: Anonymous on June 19, 2014, 02:45:25 PM
Quote from: "Real Woman"Shen...



Diplomacy - the art of telling people to go fuck themselves and not getting banned :)

Can't do it RW. Not when it comes to cheapshots/insults about my family. Anybody does that and IT'S FUCKIN ON!! Just ask oddstain.
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: reel on June 19, 2014, 02:53:22 PM
Quote from: "Renee"It's not just limited to politics or politicians; there are social aspects of the left/right issue that are directly affected and cause by following one ideology or the other. You cannot really ignore how these ideological issues affect your life.

 

I understand that you are not political but hopefully you understand that politics creates the policies and laws that affect us all in our daily lives. It's not that I'm passionate about politics, I just think it is prudent to be aware of who or what is fucking me over or reaching into my wallet.


I'm not sure what it's like in the US, but in Canada the policies and laws that affect us on a day to day basis are created by bureaucrats and courts, both groups that are notionally apolitical.  Politicians only touch the day to day decisions after they are already decided by the bureaucrats and primarily deal with issues that have a high media profile, but little impact on most of our day to day lives.  The political side of the government is mostly about showmanship, media sound bites, the latest polls, and cronyism, altogether independent of political party.  Most of it is irrelevant to political ideology and has far more to do with direct benefit of a particular minority group.



As to opinions on the issues that do come up, why should they follow an ideology at all?  Why would they not follow a logical analysis of the issue at hand, based on costs and benefits?  If I'm called a lefty or a righty, you are basically saying that my mind is pre-determined by someone else's ideology on any given issue.  Is that the case with you?  It's not with me and I take offense to the implication that I am unable to decide my opinion on an issue for myself.  I will base my opinion on the facts presented and if new facts are presented that invalidate my previous conclusion, I may change my mind.  



I view those who argue an issue based on pre-determined talking points created by their "team" as weak-willed, arrogant, and/or intellectually indolent.  Categorizing your opponent in a debate as belonging to a particular political team is equally intellectually lazy and most often constitutes a straw man logical fallacy (assuming that they have not already categorized themselves as their only  support to their argument).
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: Obvious Li on June 19, 2014, 04:32:54 PM
Quote from: "Real Woman"I'm not afraid to own up to anything Munday but the fact that you wear your ignorance like a badge of honour is fitting.



I tend to be more issue based in my political opinions and don't subscribe to one ideology.  Sound decisions and ideas come from all sides so why would I be so stupid as to ignore something reasonable because it doesn't come from the "side" I'm on?  That may work for you, but it doesn't work for me.




i'm repeating myself but here goes........denile denile denile denile denile denile denile...... :ugeek:
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: Obvious Li on June 19, 2014, 04:45:14 PM
Quote from: "reel"
Quote from: "Renee"It's not just limited to politics or politicians; there are social aspects of the left/right issue that are directly affected and cause by following one ideology or the other. You cannot really ignore how these ideological issues affect your life.

 

I understand that you are not political but hopefully you understand that politics creates the policies and laws that affect us all in our daily lives. It's not that I'm passionate about politics, I just think it is prudent to be aware of who or what is fucking me over or reaching into my wallet.


I'm not sure what it's like in the US, but in Canada the policies and laws that affect us on a day to day basis are created by bureaucrats and courts, both groups that are notionally apolitical.  Politicians only touch the day to day decisions after they are already decided by the bureaucrats and primarily deal with issues that have a high media profile, but little impact on most of our day to day lives.  The political side of the government is mostly about showmanship, media sound bites, the latest polls, and cronyism, altogether independent of political party.  Most of it is irrelevant to political ideology and has far more to do with direct benefit of a particular minority group.



As to opinions on the issues that do come up, why should they follow an ideology at all?  Why would they not follow a logical analysis of the issue at hand, based on costs and benefits?  If I'm called a lefty or a righty, you are basically saying that my mind is pre-determined by someone else's ideology on any given issue.  Is that the case with you?  It's not with me and I take offense to the implication that I am unable to decide my opinion on an issue for myself.  I will base my opinion on the facts presented and if new facts are presented that invalidate my previous conclusion, I may change my mind.  



I view those who argue an issue based on pre-determined talking points created by their "team" as weak-willed, arrogant, and/or intellectually indolent.  Categorizing your opponent in a debate as belonging to a particular political team is equally intellectually lazy and most often constitutes a straw man logical fallacy (assuming that they have not already categorized themselves as their only  support to their argument).




the concept that the courts and bureaucrats are apolitical, is to put it kindly, silly.....as is the notion that one can realistically look at each individual issue and take them as they come...there is a theme and emphasis that run through all policies and laws whether you come from the more conservative side or liberal point of view.....these themes are consistent with a certain point of view, left or right, on every issue.......i have heard countless and countless people make that same argument over the years only to find they consistently vote the same (or a certain way) on every issue...they are all for free speech as long as it is their speech that is heard........you could be that one in 33 million....but i suspect it is the same old spiel........ :ugeek:
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: Renee on June 19, 2014, 05:13:18 PM
Quote from: "reel"I'm not sure what it's like in the US, but in Canada the policies and laws that affect us on a day to day basis are created by bureaucrats and courts, both groups that are notionally apolitical.  Politicians only touch the day to day decisions after they are already decided by the bureaucrats and primarily deal with issues that have a high media profile, but little impact on most of our day to day lives.  The political side of the government is mostly about showmanship, media sound bites, the latest polls, and cronyism, altogether independent of political party.  Most of it is irrelevant to political ideology and has far more to do with direct benefit of a particular minority group.


Well you are lucky that way because in the US activist bureaucrats and judges usually fill the role you describe. It is the ideology of the particular administration in power that sets the tone for much of the policies be they social or political. Legislators make laws that either directly or indirectly affects people's lives. Yes there is showmanship involved but it's all part of the greater game.


Quote from: "reel"As to opinions on the issues that do come up, why should they follow an ideology at all?  Why would they not follow a logical analysis of the issue at hand, based on costs and benefits?  If I'm called a lefty or a righty, you are basically saying that my mind is pre-determined by someone else's ideology on any given issue.  Is that the case with you?  It's not with me and I take offense to the implication that I am unable to decide my opinion on an issue for myself.  I will base my opinion on the facts presented and if new facts are presented that invalidate my previous conclusion, I may change my mind.


 I hear you Reel and I know that you are an independent thinker but it is a fact that others are not so much.  We all have the ability to decide an issue on its merits but those merits can be up to interpretation based on "perceived" benefits and costs. How those merits are perceived are a direct result of the predominate ideology you prescribe to. Example; on social issues if you lean left you are going to view a given issue from a left point of view. Now that doesn't mean YOU cannot change your mind based on examination of the facts but since when do the facts always play a part? It is an unfortunate fact that politics is a partisan game and issues and facts can be twisted and changed as needed to suit an agenda.  


Quote from: "reel"I view those who argue an issue based on pre-determined talking points created by their "team" as weak-willed, arrogant, and/or intellectually indolent.  Categorizing your opponent in a debate as belonging to a particular political team is equally intellectually lazy and most often constitutes a straw man logical fallacy (assuming that they have not already categorized themselves as their only  support to their argument).


Okay all too often people do categorize themselves by consistently siding one way or another on almost every given issue. That is what I'm talking about. I understand what you are saying but unfortunately it doesn't always apply. Sometimes you know what you are dealing with before the first shot is fired.
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: RW on June 19, 2014, 05:55:11 PM
And sometimes you are pleasantly surprised.  Either way, debating and countering arguments serves to solidify your own.
Title: Re: IMHOtep
Post by: Obvious Li on June 19, 2014, 05:58:32 PM
Quote from: "Real Woman"And sometimes you are pleasantly surprised.  Either way, debating and countering arguments serves to solidify your own.




when you are on the side of the angels that is easy....... :ugeek: