Title: Calgary Sadness - It is not ending well
Post by: cc on July 14, 2014, 03:36:30 PM
Post by: cc on July 14, 2014, 03:36:30 PM
Murder charges made - will be laid in court this afternoon - then they will confirm identity of the perp. Bodies not yet found, but obviously they have enough to be certain the victims are dead
"evidence was sufficient to make arrest"
Two 1st degree murder charges (proven pre-intent) - One 2nd degree (cannot prove pre-intent
Dammit!! The %^ker killed them all
Title: Re: Calgary Sadness - It is not ending well
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2014, 07:52:22 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2014, 07:52:22 PM
On the kiddie and grandparentsQuote from: "cc li tarte"
Murder charges made - will be laid in court this afternoon - then they will confirm identity of the perp. Bodies not yet found, but obviously they have enough to be certain the victims are dead
"evidence was sufficient to make arrest"
Two 1st degree murder charges (proven pre-intent) - One 2nd degree (cannot prove pre-intent
Dammit!! The %^ker killed them all
Thanks for posting this cc li tarte..
Last I read was that the police had a
Very, very sad indeed.
Title: Re: Calgary Sadness - It is not ending well
Post by: cc on July 15, 2014, 12:48:08 AM
Post by: cc on July 15, 2014, 12:48:08 AM
Title: Re: Calgary Sadness - It is not ending well
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2014, 02:09:44 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2014, 02:09:44 AM
I believe the guy previously in custody is the same guy charged todayQuote from: "cc li tarte"
It is cc, Douglas Garland was in custody, then released and now charged with two counts of first degree murder and one count of second degree murder. Police still have no leads on the location of the bodies.
Title: Re: Calgary Sadness - It is not ending well
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2014, 12:17:13 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2014, 12:17:13 PM
I believe the guy previously in custody is the same guy charged todayQuote from: "cc li tarte"
Yes, you are right CC. It must be tough on the family who still held out hope their loved ones were still alive.
Title: Re: Calgary Sadness - It is not ending well
Post by: cc on July 15, 2014, 03:00:57 PM
Post by: cc on July 15, 2014, 03:00:57 PM
The feelings of fear that a missing child "could be" dead, and then later to be "pretty sure" the child was dead but whereabouts is unknown is certainly different from that. I cannot imagine the feelings. Sadly it happens to many.
Title: Re: Calgary Sadness - It is not ending well
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2014, 07:14:24 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2014, 07:14:24 PM
I too well know the never ending feeling of losing children when cause and whereabouts were known almost immediately. In both cases there were no "doubts" to contend with.Quote from: "cc li tarte"
The feelings of fear that a missing child "could be" dead, and then later to be "pretty sure" the child was dead but whereabouts is unknown is certainly different from that.I cannot imagine the feelings. Sadly it happens to many.
Nor can I cc li tarte. What a terrible ending even if we knew it was inevitable.
:(
Title: Re: Calgary Sadness - It is not ending well
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2014, 12:51:54 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2014, 12:51:54 PM
I too well know the never ending feeling of losing children when cause and whereabouts were known almost immediately. In both cases there were no "doubts" to contend with.Quote from: "cc li tarte"
The feelings of fear that a missing child "could be" dead, and then later to be "pretty sure" the child was dead but whereabouts is unknown is certainly different from that. I cannot imagine the feelings. Sadly it happens to many.
Reading more about this tragedy, the accused did everything but leave his phone behind.
Title: Re: Calgary Sadness - It is not ending well
Post by: RW on July 16, 2014, 01:08:50 PM
Post by: RW on July 16, 2014, 01:08:50 PM
I too well know the never ending feeling of losing children when cause and whereabouts were known almost immediately. In both cases there were no "doubts" to contend with.Quote from: "cc li tarte"
The feelings of fear that a missing child "could be" dead, and then later to be "pretty sure" the child was dead but whereabouts is unknown is certainly different from that. I cannot imagine the feelings. Sadly it happens to many.
I'm so sorry for your loss cc. I know you've mentioned it before, but it still brings me to tears. My heart breaks for you.
I've experienced a loved one going missing and after two weeks finding out he was deceased. The news is such a bitter relief.
Title: Re: Calgary Sadness - It is not ending well
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2014, 02:42:19 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2014, 02:42:19 PM
I too well know the never ending feeling of losing children when cause and whereabouts were known almost immediately. In both cases there were no "doubts" to contend with.Quote from: "cc li tarte"
The feelings of fear that a missing child "could be" dead, and then later to be "pretty sure" the child was dead but whereabouts is unknown is certainly different from that. I cannot imagine the feelings. Sadly it happens to many.
I'm so sorry for your loss cc. I know you've mentioned it before, but it still brings me to tears. My heart breaks for you.
I've experienced a loved one going missing and after two weeks finding out he was deceased. The news is such a bitter relief.
Fuck, how did I miss that post by CC? Just don't know what to say, so I will leave it to the native English speakers to convey what we all feel.
Title: Re: Calgary Sadness - It is not ending well
Post by: cc on July 16, 2014, 11:27:28 PM
Post by: cc on July 16, 2014, 11:27:28 PM
THANKS!!!
Even with my two immediately known situations, I cannot imagine what a parent or child in this particular type situation of suspecting but not knowing must feel ..... followed later by knowing they are gone .... compounded by not knowing where they are
Edit: Actually now I think back on it, I was in that position briefly .... I don't re-think the details much. I'm recalling that horrible evening now ... and how a friend of my son called to say my son's girlfriend was killed ... Immediately and for a while I tried to track son down when it hit me between the eyes ..... my daughter was likely with her and the caller was afraid to tell me? ... Without confirmation, I "knew" ... sheer indescribable panic and terror ... I called to confirm the worse. Son lost 18 yr old girl friend and 16 yr old sister in the crash
Title: Re: Calgary Sadness - It is not ending well
Post by: RW on July 17, 2014, 02:30:24 PM
Post by: RW on July 17, 2014, 02:30:24 PM
After reading your story cc, it's taken me almost 20 minutes to stop bawling my eyes out and hyperventilating enough to type. No mother should have to know that panic or that terror. It's not right! I'm so sorry that happened to your family. I'm sorry that there is some crazy murderous asshole reminding you that he intentionally took life that was stolen from you.
Title: Re: Calgary Sadness - It is not ending well
Post by: cc on July 17, 2014, 04:06:43 PM
Post by: cc on July 17, 2014, 04:06:43 PM
As for my own losses, knowing that others and especially fine people like yourself and some others care does help. Our son took the worse hit and it affected his future in many ways ... far too much for a 19 yr old boy to contend with .. a major life changer for him and to maybe a slightly lesser degree to myself. In the aftermath I see life, all parts of it and priorities through a VERY different lense
Title: Re: Calgary Sadness - It is not ending well
Post by: Renee on July 17, 2014, 06:24:29 PM
Post by: Renee on July 17, 2014, 06:24:29 PM
S'OK gang. There is nothing anyone can say. Just knowing you care is good.Quote from: "cc li tarte"
THANKS!!!
Even with my two immediately known situations, I cannot imagine what a parent or child in this particular type situation of suspecting but not knowing must feel ..... followed later by knowing they are gone .... compounded by not knowing where they are
Edit: Actually now I think back on it, I was in that position briefly .... I don't re-think the details much. I'm recalling that horrible evening now ... and how a friend of my son called to say my son's girlfriend was killed ... Immediately and for a while I tried to track son down when it hit me between the eyes ..... my daughter was likely with her and the caller was afraid to tell me? ... Without confirmation, I "knew" ... sheer indescribable panic and terror ... I called to confirm the worse. Son lost 18 yr old girl friend and 16 yr old sister in the crash
It took me a while to gather myself after reading this. I had no idea.
In a situation like this "I'm sorry" always sounds so inane and not nearly adequate enough. But what else can we convey but our feelings of sorrow at a loss so great? My biggest fear is losing one of my children and I'm not sure I could emotionally or even physically survive something like that. My thoughts and prayers go out to you cc as well as your son.
Title: Re: Calgary Sadness - It is not ending well
Post by: Anonymous on July 17, 2014, 08:14:41 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 17, 2014, 08:14:41 PM
S'OK gang. There is nothing anyone can say. Just knowing you care is good.Quote from: "cc li tarte"
THANKS!!!
Even with my two immediately known situations, I cannot imagine what a parent or child in this particular type situation of suspecting but not knowing must feel ..... followed later by knowing they are gone .... compounded by not knowing where they are
Edit: Actually now I think back on it, I was in that position briefly .... I don't re-think the details much. I'm recalling that horrible evening now ... and how a friend of my son called to say my son's girlfriend was killed ... Immediately and for a while I tried to track son down when it hit me between the eyes ..... my daughter was likely with her and the caller was afraid to tell me? ... Without confirmation, I "knew" ... sheer indescribable panic and terror ...I called to confirm the worse. Son lost 18 yr old girl friend and 16 yr old sister in the crash