Title: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2014, 03:19:10 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2014, 03:19:10 PM
You're standing in line to get into one of the popular nightclubs along Edmonton's Whyte Ave. when the air-raid sirens wail and you have to scramble for the nearest shelter along with hundreds of other clubbers. Radicals from Spruce Grove have once again fired missiles towards the Alberta capital where residents now have fewer than eight minutes to rush to safety.Quote
Or you're laid out on Toronto's Kew-Balmy Beach on a hot summer's day with your kids (and a few thousand of your closest friends) when your relaxation is shattered by an incoming-rocket warning. Insurgents in Markham have launched an aerial attack. Panic breaks out. There's nowhere to hide.
That's what it's like in Israel. Weddings, barbecues, shopping trips, business meetings, golf rounds, dinners at sidewalk cafes, days in the park are routinely interrupted by missiles launched from the Gaza Strip with the blessing and assistance of the terrorist Hamas government there.
In peaceful Canada it's hard to fathom, but in Israel millions of ordinary citizens live in the shadow of groups that wish them dead, every day. Jihadis, who are often close enough to see the Israeli towns they are firing on, have the weapons and the will to kill or maim Israelis who are simply going about their everyday routines.
If Canadian cities and citizens were being bombarded the same way – at random, from neighbouring communities – we and our governments would react just as Israel is, by bombing suspected missile sites, perhaps even sending in ground troops to flush out the enemy's weapons and military command structure.
Strike fighters from Ottawa would be asked to fly over Hull and remove the launch sites.
Blame for the current Israel-Hamas fight is very one-sided:If Hamas had stopped the incessant rocket attacks on Israeli civilians at any time in the past six years (since the last Israel-Hamas conflict) there would be no Israeli attacks now.
None. It's that simple.
The 175 or so Palestinians who have died in Israeli attacks in the past week are not victims of Israeli aggression or colonialism. They are victims of their own government's refusal to stop shelling Israel.
Eventually Israel lost patience with the endless Hamas rocket barrages and did what it has every right and duty to do: protect its citizens.
But Israel occupies Gaza, you say, so the Palestinian rocket attacks are justified attempts to win freedom.
Israel has had no troops stationed in Gaza nor any settlers in territory in nearly a decade.
For years, Gazan authorities promised terror attacks launched from their soil would end if Israel withdrew its troops and dismantled Jewish settlements there.
So in 2005 the government of Ariel Sharon removed 21 settlements from Gaza, many containing Israelis who had known no other home. Third and even fourth generation Gazan Jews were forcibly removed by Israeli soldiers. More than 2,500 homes were razed in heartwrenching scenes of crying settlers and teary infantrymen.
Rather than stopping, as promised, the rocket attacks escalated until 2008 when Israel last sent troops into Gaza.
OK, so Israel doesn't occupy Gaza, but it blockades it, you charge.
True, but Israel's land and sea blockades seek to stop weapons and fighters.Tons of food moves from Israel to Gaza every day, as well as medical and construction supplies. More than 10,000 Palestinians a year are treated for free in Israeli hospitals.Even the deaths of Palestinian civilians caused by Israeli airstrikes are the result of Hamas's deliberate decision to place its military assets and launch sites in school grounds, hospitals, apartment buildings and shopping centres.
Israel's response to being attacked might seem harsh, but it is what any country in the same position would do.http://www.edmontonsun.com/2014/07/15/terror----in-your-own-backyard
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2014, 07:29:52 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2014, 07:29:52 PM
An excellent piece here from Lorne Gunter. It's easy for some ultra-lefty Westerners to judge, but Israel's response has not only been justified but also measured.Quote from: "Shen Li"You're standing in line to get into one of the popular nightclubs along Edmonton's Whyte Ave. when the air-raid sirens wail and you have to scramble for the nearest shelter along with hundreds of other clubbers. Radicals from Spruce Grove have once again fired missiles towards the Alberta capital where residents now have fewer than eight minutes to rush to safety.Quote
Or you're laid out on Toronto's Kew-Balmy Beach on a hot summer's day with your kids (and a few thousand of your closest friends) when your relaxation is shattered by an incoming-rocket warning. Insurgents in Markham have launched an aerial attack. Panic breaks out. There's nowhere to hide.
That's what it's like in Israel. Weddings, barbecues, shopping trips, business meetings, golf rounds, dinners at sidewalk cafes, days in the park are routinely interrupted by missiles launched from the Gaza Strip with the blessing and assistance of the terrorist Hamas government there.
In peaceful Canada it's hard to fathom, but in Israel millions of ordinary citizens live in the shadow of groups that wish them dead, every day. Jihadis, who are often close enough to see the Israeli towns they are firing on, have the weapons and the will to kill or maim Israelis who are simply going about their everyday routines.
If Canadian cities and citizens were being bombarded the same way – at random, from neighbouring communities – we and our governments would react just as Israel is, by bombing suspected missile sites, perhaps even sending in ground troops to flush out the enemy's weapons and military command structure.
Strike fighters from Ottawa would be asked to fly over Hull and remove the launch sites.
Blame for the current Israel-Hamas fight is very one-sided:If Hamas had stopped the incessant rocket attacks on Israeli civilians at any time in the past six years (since the last Israel-Hamas conflict) there would be no Israeli attacks now.
None. It's that simple.
The 175 or so Palestinians who have died in Israeli attacks in the past week are not victims of Israeli aggression or colonialism. They are victims of their own government's refusal to stop shelling Israel.
Eventually Israel lost patience with the endless Hamas rocket barrages and did what it has every right and duty to do: protect its citizens.
But Israel occupies Gaza, you say, so the Palestinian rocket attacks are justified attempts to win freedom.
Israel has had no troops stationed in Gaza nor any settlers in territory in nearly a decade.
For years, Gazan authorities promised terror attacks launched from their soil would end if Israel withdrew its troops and dismantled Jewish settlements there.
So in 2005 the government of Ariel Sharon removed 21 settlements from Gaza, many containing Israelis who had known no other home. Third and even fourth generation Gazan Jews were forcibly removed by Israeli soldiers. More than 2,500 homes were razed in heartwrenching scenes of crying settlers and teary infantrymen.
Rather than stopping, as promised, the rocket attacks escalated until 2008 when Israel last sent troops into Gaza.
OK, so Israel doesn't occupy Gaza, but it blockades it, you charge.
True, but Israel's land and sea blockades seek to stop weapons and fighters.Tons of food moves from Israel to Gaza every day, as well as medical and construction supplies. More than 10,000 Palestinians a year are treated for free in Israeli hospitals.Even the deaths of Palestinian civilians caused by Israeli airstrikes are the result of Hamas's deliberate decision to place its military assets and launch sites in school grounds, hospitals, apartment buildings and shopping centres.
Israel's response to being attacked might seem harsh, but it is what any country in the same position would do.http://www.edmontonsun.com/2014/07/15/terror----in-your-own-backyard
I would love to walk along the Via Dolorosa.
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Anonymous on July 18, 2014, 11:30:52 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 18, 2014, 11:30:52 AM
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Gary Oak on July 19, 2014, 11:28:11 AM
Post by: Gary Oak on July 19, 2014, 11:28:11 AM
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Anonymous on July 20, 2014, 12:47:42 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 20, 2014, 12:47:42 PM
Well the Romeros would then get to walk through muslims neighbourhoods and feel their pain of wanting to kill nonmuslim Canadians and lob bombs into nnmuslim neighbouhoods in hopes of random killings. The Romeros would also feel that nonmuslim Canadians shouldn't defend themselves from these attacks.Quote from: "Gary Oak"
Romero is so full of shit when it comes to Islamic scum. It's an ideology of hate and misogyny that belongs back in the 8th fucking century.
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: cc on July 21, 2014, 12:51:13 AM
Post by: cc on July 21, 2014, 12:51:13 AM
As he does not have the excuse of indoctrination from birth, it is voluntary for him .... making he and his ilk worse than the worse of the islamics. islamics have a lame excuse. He has no excuse beyond sheer stupidity and a vile hatred of the ethics of his own society.
Without the ludicrous hypocritical support of many of his "enabler" ilk trying to Lipstick the Pig, the Trojan Horse called islam would not be be a threat to anyone other than to itself.
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2014, 10:50:55 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2014, 10:50:55 AM
Our pretend good guy pet twists himself into an obscene pretzel in attempting to defend islam ... in effect supporting the misogyny, cruelty, violence, race hatred, non-believer hatred, supremacist core of the most vile supremacist ideology this earth has ever known. ..... and yes, ... worse than the monsters of the 30s and 40s.Quote from: "cc li tarte"
As he does not have the excuse of indoctrination from birth, it is voluntary for him .... making he and his ilk worse than the worse of the islamics. islamics have a lame excuse. He has no excuse beyond sheer stupidity and a vile hatred of the ethics of his own society.
Without the ludicrous hypocritical support of many of his "enabler" ilk trying to Lipstick the Pig, the Trojan Horse called islam would not be be a threat to anyone other than to itself.
Islam is totally opposite to everything people like old Vesna and Romero claim to believe in. I will never understand why some Western leftists choose to defend such a bigoted ideology? Not all leftists of course. Bill Maher for example speaks out against Islam. However, too many leftists are defending Islam even though it is opposed to everything they say they believe in. Maybe Romero and Vesna are a couple of phonies?
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 02:15:25 PM
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 02:15:25 PM
Our pretend good guy pet twists himself into an obscene pretzel in attempting to defend islam ... in effect supporting the misogyny, cruelty, violence, race hatred, non-believer hatred, supremacist core of the most vile supremacist ideology this earth has ever known. ..... and yes, ... worse than the monsters of the 30s and 40s.Quote from: "cc li tarte"
As he does not have the excuse of indoctrination from birth, it is voluntary for him .... making he and his ilk worse than the worse of the islamics. islamics have a lame excuse. He has no excuse beyond sheer stupidity and a vile hatred of the ethics of his own society.
Without the ludicrous hypocritical support of many of his "enabler" ilk trying to Lipstick the Pig, the Trojan Horse called islam would not be be a threat to anyone other than to itself.
Knowing that an e-mail hoax is an e-mail hoax isn't "defending Islam". Not falling for some hoax doesn't exactly make me a woman hater and supporter of violence. Your ridiculous accusations can't alter reality.
You only have yourself to blame for being wrong. Don't like it? Stop doing it!
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 02:19:27 PM
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 02:19:27 PM
Islam is totally opposite to everything people like old evs and Romero claim to believe in. I will never understand why some Western leftists choose to defend such a bigoted ideology?Quote from: "Shen Li"
I've never once defended Islam. None of you have ever found one post showing so and none of you ever will.
I defend good people. Bad Muslims are bad and good Muslims are good. You got a problem with that?
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2014, 02:28:45 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2014, 02:28:45 PM
Islam is totally opposite to everything people like old evs and Romero claim to believe in. I will never understand why some Western leftists choose to defend such a bigoted ideology?Quote from: "Shen Li"
I've never once defended Islam. None of you have ever found one post showing so and none of you ever will.
I defend good people. Bad Muslims are bad and good Muslims are good. You got a problem with that?
Do you agree then that Islam is an evil ideology?
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 02:37:21 PM
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 02:37:21 PM
Islam is totally opposite to everything people like old evs and Romero claim to believe in. I will never understand why some Western leftists choose to defend such a bigoted ideology?Quote from: "Shen Li"
I've never once defended Islam. None of you have ever found one post showing so and none of you ever will.
I defend good people. Bad Muslims are bad and good Muslims are good. You got a problem with that?
Do you agree then that Islam is an evil ideology?
Nope. It can be used for evil just as other religions can, but the vast majority of Muslims are good people.
Do you believe most Muslims are evil?
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2014, 03:03:11 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2014, 03:03:11 PM
I've never once defended Islam. None of you have ever found one post showing so and none of you ever will.
I defend good people. Bad Muslims are bad and good Muslims are good. You got a problem with that?
Do you agree then that Islam is an evil ideology?
Nope. It can be used for evil just as other religions can, but the vast majority of Muslims are good people.
Do you believe most Muslims are evil?
I believe anyone that follows commandments to kill non-believers, gays women is evil. Anyone that follows Islamic commandments is evil. The question is why you give Islam a free pass to hate?
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: cc on July 21, 2014, 03:08:05 PM
Post by: cc on July 21, 2014, 03:08:05 PM
It's islam stupid!!! ...... islam the supremacist "ideology" affecting an extremely high ratio of indoctrinated-from-birth and living that ideology .... 24/7/365 ....Stockholm Syndrome blinded followers
I suggest he do neither of the above as I don't know how he would handle having his "happy bubble" busted. Sometimes its best to just bump along thinking it's all OK
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 03:30:10 PM
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 03:30:10 PM
Anyone that follows Islamic commandments is evil.Quote from: "Shen Li"
So you believe all Muslims are evil. Yet you have Muslim friends.
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 03:31:47 PM
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 03:31:47 PM
He has not 1. Read Mein Kuranpf (much less the other two hate books) nor has he 2. Followed its effect on so many followers throughout the world and in the West ... so his view is based on merely "wishes" and has zero creditable value in the real wordQuote from: "cc li tarte"
It's islam stupid!!! ...... islam the supremacist "ideology" affecting an extremely high ratio of indoctrinated-from-birth and living that ideology .... 24/7/365 ....Stockholm Syndrome blinded followers
I suggest he do neither of the above as I don't know how he would handle having his "happy bubble" busted. Sometimes its best to just bump along thinking it's all OKAt the same time, I fail to comprehend how (and have no tolerance for) anyone who looks at the world and sees islam-in-action everywhere ... and does not get the message that "something" is very unique about and very wrong within islam
Have you fired your Islamic employee yet? Or are you still writing him checks?
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2014, 03:39:09 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2014, 03:39:09 PM
Anyone that follows Islamic commandments is evil.Quote from: "Shen Li"
So you believe all Muslims are evil. Yet you have Muslim friends.
Yes, devout belief in Islam is evil to it's very core. The question is why don't you believe murder and misogyny are not evil?
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 03:43:30 PM
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 03:43:30 PM
I don't have any Muslims friends or employees. I simply don't hate all Muslims.
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2014, 03:47:48 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2014, 03:47:48 PM
The question is why do you have murderers and misogynists as friends? Why is a murderer and misogynist cc's top employee?Quote from: "Romero"
I don't have any Muslims friends or employees. I simply don't hate all Muslims.
I don't have devout Muslims as friends. I told you before they are secular Muslims just like Salman Rushdie. They know devout belief in Islam is evil as you should too.
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 03:50:35 PM
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 03:50:35 PM
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2014, 03:53:06 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2014, 03:53:06 PM
You said "Anyone that follows Islamic commandments is evil". Your friends, cc's top employee and Salman Rushdie follow Islam.Quote from: "Romero"
No, my friends don't follow islam any more than you or Ifollow Christianity because we celebrate X-mas. As for Salman Rushdie, he is not in hiding because he follows the commandments of Islam.
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 03:59:54 PM
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 03:59:54 PM
You said "Anyone that follows Islamic commandments is evil". Your friends, cc's top employee and Salman Rushdie follow Islam.Quote from: "Romero"
No, my friends don't follow islam any more than you or Ifollow Christianity because we celebrate X-mas. As for Salman Rushdie, he is not in hiding because he follows the commandments of Islam.
Your Muslim friends don't follow Islam? Really?
And cc's Islamic employee isn't Islamic!
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: cc on July 21, 2014, 04:05:42 PM
Post by: cc on July 21, 2014, 04:05:42 PM
When you do your homework ... rather IF you do your homework ... get back to me
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 04:13:46 PM
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 04:13:46 PM
When you do your homework ... rather IF you do your homework ... get back to me then.Quote from: "cc li tarte"
According to your expertise, your Islamic employee believes in violence and misogyny.
How could you hire someone like that? I would never hire someone like that.
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2014, 04:19:08 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2014, 04:19:08 PM
You said "Anyone that follows Islamic commandments is evil". Your friends, cc's top employee and Salman Rushdie follow Islam.Quote from: "Romero"
No, my friends don't follow islam any more than you or Ifollow Christianity because we celebrate X-mas. As for Salman Rushdie, he is not in hiding because he follows the commandments of Islam.
Your Muslim friends don't follow Islam? Really?
And cc's Islamic employee isn't Islamic.
No more than you or I follow xtianity because we celebrate X-mas.
BTW, Salman Rushdie has been divorced 4 times. He is also a member of the advisory board of the Secular Coalition for America. Doesn't sound like someone who follows Islamic commandments too closely.
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: cc on July 21, 2014, 04:27:35 PM
Post by: cc on July 21, 2014, 04:27:35 PM
Dodge / divert / obfuscate / dream ... all you can do ... time wasterQuote
When you do your homework ... ratherIFyou do your homework ... get back to me
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 04:36:04 PM
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 04:36:04 PM
No more than you or I follow xtianity because we celebrate X-mas.Quote from: "Shen Li"
BTW, Salman Rushdie has been divorced 4 times. He is also a member of the advisory board of the Secular Coalition for America. Doesn't sound like someone who follows Islamic commandments too closely.
We don't follow Christianity because we're not Christian. Your Muslim friends and cc's Islamic employee follow Islam.
They don't follow "evil Islamic commandments" "too closely"? Wouldn't that mean they're still somewhat evil? Because if your Muslim friends and cc's Islamic employee are good people, then not everyone who follows Islam is evil.
We all detest Islamic extremism but believe not all Muslims are evil. You have Muslim friends and cc has an Islamic employee yet I'm accused of supporting violence and misogyny simply because I don't hate them just like you two don't hate them.
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 04:39:19 PM
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 04:39:19 PM
SHAME on you Querky!!Quote from: "cc li tarte"Dodge / divert / obfuscate / dream ... all you can do ... time wasterQuote
When you do your homework ... ratherIFyou do your homework ... get back to me
I will never hate Muslims. I will never hate Chinese because of Gary Oak, never hate Jews because of yck, never hate homosexuals because of bruce and I will never hate Muslims because of you.
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: cc on July 21, 2014, 04:45:42 PM
Post by: cc on July 21, 2014, 04:45:42 PM
the lengths you go to stating exactly what all of us feel in your desperation "to look like a good guy" are astounding
the lengths you go to miss-labeling others in your desperation "to look like a good guy" are astounding
FAKE!!!! ... SHAME on you
Dodge / divert / obfuscate / dream ... all you can do ... time wasterQuote
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 04:50:08 PM
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 04:50:08 PM
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: cc on July 21, 2014, 04:56:16 PM
Post by: cc on July 21, 2014, 04:56:16 PM
Dodge / divert / obfuscate / dream ... all you can do ... time wasterQuote
What do you think Shen? Is he a deliberate contrived planner? - i.e. a FAKE?
or is he just unable to comprehend simple things .. i.e. really stupid?
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2014, 04:56:58 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2014, 04:56:58 PM
SHAME on you Querky!!Quote from: "cc li tarte"Dodge / divert / obfuscate / dream ... all you can do ... time wasterQuote
When you do your homework ... ratherIFyou do your homework ... get back to me
I will never hate Muslims.
There you have it. You will never hate murderers, misogynists and gay-bashers as long as it is done in the name of Islam.
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2014, 04:59:05 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2014, 04:59:05 PM
Pathetic Effort!!Quote from: "cc li tarte"
What do you think Shen? Is he a Fake contrived planner? - or is he just unable to comprehend simple things .. i.e. stupid?
It's hard to take anyone seriously that says they have little tolerance for haters and then in the same breath defends the most hateful ideology on the planet.
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: cc on July 21, 2014, 05:15:52 PM
Post by: cc on July 21, 2014, 05:15:52 PM
There you have it. You will never hate murderers, misogynists and gay-bashers as long as it is done in the name of Islam.Quote from: "Shen Li"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://becomingpeculiar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/confessions-of-a-hypocrite-b.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://becomingpeculiar.com/wp-content/%20...%20rite-b.jpg%22%3Ehttp://becomingpeculiar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/confessions-of-a-hypocrite-b.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 05:58:30 PM
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 05:58:30 PM
Our pretend good guy pet twists himself into an obscene pretzel in attempting to defend islam ... in effect supporting the misogyny, cruelty, violence, race hatred, non-believer hatred, supremacist core of the most vile supremacist ideology this earth has ever known. ..... and yes, ... worse than the monsters of the 30s and 40s.Quote from: "cc li tarte"
As he does not have the excuse of indoctrination from birth, it is voluntary for him .... making he and his ilk worse than the worse of the islamics. islamics have a lame excuse. He has no excuse beyond sheer stupidity and a vile hatred of the ethics of his own society.
Without the ludicrous hypocritical support of many of his "enabler" ilk trying to Lipstick the Pig, the Trojan Horse called islam would not be be a threat to anyone other than to itself.
Just because I didn't fall for some e-mail hoax!
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: cc on July 21, 2014, 06:59:05 PM
Post by: cc on July 21, 2014, 06:59:05 PM
I have no idea about any email you are trying to obfuscate with. What the hell scam will you try on for size next??
I'll add another sadly-necessary-with-you provision:Dodge / divert / obfuscate / dream ... all you can do ... time wasterQuote
When you do your homework ... rather IF you do your homework ... get back to me
When / IF you get some ethics and learn to play straight ball, get back to me.
Put Oscar style : Ethics - Get some!!
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Renee on July 21, 2014, 07:15:18 PM
Post by: Renee on July 21, 2014, 07:15:18 PM
SHAME on you Querky!!Quote from: "cc li tarte"Dodge / divert / obfuscate / dream ... all you can do ... time wasterQuote
When you do your homework ... ratherIFyou do your homework ... get back to me
I will never hate Muslims. I will never hate Chinese because of Gary Oak, never hate Jews because of yck, never hate homosexuals because of bruce and I will never hate Muslims because of you.
No one expects you to "hate' any one or any thing. All we are looking for is an admission of truth. Radical Islam is a violent, misogynistic, antisocial, ideology and all your denial of that sad fact will not change that truth.
Sorry that you simply do not get it.
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2014, 07:17:57 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2014, 07:17:57 PM
SHAME on you Querky!!Quote from: "cc li tarte"
I will never hate Muslims. I will never hate Chinese because of Gary Oak, never hate Jews because of yck, never hate homosexuals because of bruce and I will never hate Muslims because of you.
No one expects you to "hate' any one or any thing. All we are looking for is an admission of truth.Radical Islam is a violent, misogynistic, antisocial, ideology and all your denial of that sad fact will not change that truth.
Sorry that you simply do not get it.
I am sure he knows Islamic fundamentalism is rotten to it's very core. What I don't get is why he finds it so hard to admit that obvious truth?
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 07:27:18 PM
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 07:27:18 PM
Radical Islam is a violent, misogynistic, antisocial, ideologyQuote from: "Renee"
I completely agree with this and have never once denied it. I simply don't hate all Muslims.
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2014, 07:28:09 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2014, 07:28:09 PM
Radical Islam is a violent, misogynistic, antisocial, ideologyQuote from: "Renee"
I completely agree with this and have never once denied it. I simply don't hate all Muslims.
Then you agree with CC and I that Islam is evil?
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 07:30:22 PM
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 07:30:22 PM
I agree with you and cc that your Muslim friends and her Islamic employee aren't evil. What's all the fuss?
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: cc on July 21, 2014, 07:45:12 PM
Post by: cc on July 21, 2014, 07:45:12 PM
Can't believe you said that. There is only ONE islam. If you think there is 2, show us both. When you find that you cannot, man up to that. It is what it is ... the ultimate raw evil ... more evil and FAR moreRadical Islam is evil. Islam is not.Quote from: "Romero"
What you said above is preposterous. You know nothing about it and are just faking it. When you actually
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2014, 07:55:24 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2014, 07:55:24 PM
Radical Islam is evil. Islam is not.Quote from: "Romero"
I agree with you and cc that your Muslim friends and her Islamic employee aren't evil. What's all the fuss?
Do they use a different Quran/Hadith? Those books are pure hate literature.
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: cc on July 21, 2014, 07:56:55 PM
Post by: cc on July 21, 2014, 07:56:55 PM
All islamics use the exact same books ... exact to the letter
Querk Lesson C134: The Q'Book is the exact literal word of allah. Anyone changing one word of it would be condemned to eternal hellfire
Learn up Querk ... then get back to us
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 07:58:51 PM
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 07:58:51 PM
Radical Islam is evil. Islam is not.Quote from: "Romero"
I agree with you and cc that your Muslim friends and her Islamic employee aren't evil. What's all the fuss?
Do they use a different Quran/Hadith? Those books are pure hate literature.
I would assume that your Muslim friends and cc's Islamic employee follow the same Quran. Or else they wouldn't be Muslim and Islamic.
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: cc on July 21, 2014, 08:02:51 PM
Post by: cc on July 21, 2014, 08:02:51 PM
There are only 1. true islamics and 2. selective cafeteria islamics .. until pressed by circumstances to be otherwise
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2014, 08:15:52 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2014, 08:15:52 PM
Radical Islam is evil. Islam is not.Quote from: "Romero"
I agree with you and cc that your Muslim friends and her Islamic employee aren't evil. What's all the fuss?
Do they use a different Quran/Hadith? Those books are pure hate literature.
I would assume that your Muslim friends and cc's Islamic employee follow the same Quran. Or else they wouldn't be Muslim and Islamic.
I told you a bazillion times, they are secular.
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 09:05:18 PM
Post by: Romero on July 21, 2014, 09:05:18 PM
The vast majority of Muslims such as your friends and cc's employee are good Muslims. So it's not true that "anyone that follows Islamic commandments is evil".
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: cc on July 22, 2014, 12:10:14 AM
Post by: cc on July 22, 2014, 12:10:14 AM
"Bad islamics" are OK .. those who DON'T follow MOST of the directions, selective cafeteria islamics ... all is well ..... at least while within a small minority when that they can be what they want to be.
For a noob infidel to attempt define what is a "good islamic" is hilarious and also the very height of arrogance.
islam alone defines that .. not some arrogant agnostic atheist lalaland dreamer who knows zero about islam.
Study up .... then get back to me
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Anonymous on July 22, 2014, 12:21:15 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 22, 2014, 12:21:15 AM
Nope. "Good islamics" follow the books = not someone you or any of us do not appreciate.Quote from: "cc li tarte"
"Bad islamics" are OK .. those who don't follow MOST of the directions,selective cafeteria islamics ... all is well ..... at least while within a small minority.
For a noob infidel to attempt define what is a "good islamic" is hilarious and the very height of arrogance.
islam alone defines that .. not some arrogant agnostic atheist lalaland dreamer who knows zero about islam.
Study up .... then get back to me
A lot of people that claim to be Christians are like that too cc li tarte.
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: cc on July 22, 2014, 12:24:25 AM
Post by: cc on July 22, 2014, 12:24:25 AM
True Fash. Lots of cafeteria Christians. But even the very strong followers are not supremacist.
ALL strong followers of islam are. In fact, that is what being a devout / good islamic is all about .... one cannot be devout islamic without being supremacist.
For a "good islamic" to not be supremacist would as absurd as a good Christian not believing in Christ .... neither is going to happen
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Anonymous on July 22, 2014, 12:27:18 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 22, 2014, 12:27:18 AM
True. Lots of cafeteria Christians. But even the very strong followers are not supremacist. Stong followers are. In fact, that is what being a devout islamic isQuote from: "cc li tarte"
I am a bible believing Christian, but I do not consider myself a
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: cc on July 22, 2014, 12:56:08 AM
Post by: cc on July 22, 2014, 12:56:08 AM
I have never encountered or heard of a strong "good islamic" believer was not a supremacist - because a "good islamic" believer cannot not be
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Anonymous on July 22, 2014, 12:59:29 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 22, 2014, 12:59:29 AM
That's the point. I have never encountered a strong "good Christian" believer that ever had the thought enter their mindQuote from: "cc li tarte"
I have never encountered or heard of a strong "good islamic" believer was not a supremacist - because a "good islamic" believer cannot not be
I work with a very warm lovely Muslim lady..
Maybe she's a
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: cc on July 22, 2014, 01:10:19 AM
Post by: cc on July 22, 2014, 01:10:19 AM
No belief system can be judged by one of even a few followers. I know Christians I don't like and islamics that I do like for example.
Assessing the merits (or lack of merit) of any belief system requires understanding the basic beliefs / requirements for starters. Step 2, it requires examining the overall consistent actions of systems throughout the world as the best way to assess what is good or bad system. How groups as a whole and in general act in all ways demonstrates the merits of the system for all to see ... especially when it is in a majority situation or at least a large portion of any overall country ... or even in large numbers within a local area.
I see Christianity as a religion and not an ideology or social system.There may be a few small extreme sect exceptions but even they do not affect others. .... islam proves itself to be more a supremacist and social ideology system than a religion .. based upon its instruction to followers and upon its followers actions within the world
On the subject of " social ideology system", did you know that the Q Book instructs its followers in EVERY SINGLE facet of their lives ..... how to clean their ears .. how to wipe their bum ... how to clean their genitals ... how to pick their nose etc. etc. ad infinitum ... for just a few examples ... I'm NOT kidding!!! It covers ALL life aspects so intensively that it leaves nothing for the individual to figure out or to decide for themselves.
Result = Stifling the human mind and spirit, it stunts thinking and decision making ... BY DESIGN ... making its people less human and more willing to do the terrible things it demands of its people ... as has every supremacist authoritarian ideology of the past.
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Anonymous on July 22, 2014, 03:39:20 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 22, 2014, 03:39:20 PM
Radical Islam is evil. Islam is not.Quote from: "Romero"
I agree with you and cc that your Muslim friends and her Islamic employee aren't evil. What's all the fuss?
Do they use a different Quran/Hadith? Those books are pure hate literature.
I would assume that your Muslim friends and cc's Islamic employee follow the same Quran. Or else they wouldn't be Muslim and Islamic.
Is the litmus test for being Christian or Muslim pedantic interpretation of books at least 1300 years old?
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Romero on July 22, 2014, 04:01:11 PM
Post by: Romero on July 22, 2014, 04:01:11 PM
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: JOE2 on July 22, 2014, 05:28:37 PM
Post by: JOE2 on July 22, 2014, 05:28:37 PM
I read your post with great interest because I also have visited Israel but have a much different perspective than you. I found it to be a hot elitist shitty little country in the middle of a desert whose residents are living in lah lah land under a bubble (or as they now call it The Iron Dome). They constantly cry about being persecuted and worry about attacks from all sides. I wonder why that is? Individuals who think like that usually have to go to a doctor to get meds.
Yes, the holocaust, i agree did happen and was terrible, tragic, and unspeakable, but I find it ironic that these poor "persecuted" people are treating the Palestinians no better than the Nazis treated the Jews in pre war Europe. Putting them under seige, cutting off their water, food, and medicine while they bask in swimming pools and miles and miles of irrigated orchards for olives and grapes as Palestinians beg for water for basic humanitarian reasons.
I applaud Hamas for fighting against this facist oppressive Jewish state and the sooner Israel realizes that peace will only come through real negotiations for a two state solution there will always be war. And eventually the Arabic states will win and probably push Israel out to the sea. This is of course will take 100 years because they do now have support (now waning) of one powerful country in the world - USA and of course Conservative Canada. Thank goodness the Liberals will win the next election and we can get a more balanced approach to this problem Isreal has created for itself.
Its disproportiante response to small rockets from Hamas will be the undoing of Israel. The world has lost patience and its time to get a grip on reality. The Palestinians are the oppressed and the Israeli war machine has always been the trouble maker, bully, and aggressor. 600 Palestinians slaughtered (mostly civilians including countless babies) and Israel loses a few soldiers.....pretty good pinpoint accuracy with those drones and war planes Nutinyahoo (as John Kerry more or less said yesterday).
Hezbollah in the north has threatened to join the fight and ally with Hamas...if this happens Israel has a real problem and will learn it cannot bomb babies and women out of that prediciment. I used to feel sorry for Israel years ago but that has long since dried up and i now fully support whatever it takes to put them in their place. They produce nothing but war materials they sell to anyone in the world, other than that what else are they famous for? Gods chosen people is a myth based in a religon based on a myth. Christianity is probably the most violent and bloody religion in the world. The millions slaughtered over the centuries in the name of God is sickening. Remember what the christian romans did, remember the millions slaughtered during the Inquisitions of the middle ages , and of course the spaniards slaughtering the indiginous peoples of Central America. Christianity trumps Islam when it comes to extremisim.
History will show that plunking them all in the middle of Arab lands and dislocating Palestinians after WW2 was a major mistake. Too bad the Arab states didnt have a vote on that. My personal solution is that all the illegal settlements should be demolished or (even better) handed over to Palestinians who are the rightful owners, water should be channeled into Gaza and the West Bank where it rightfully belongs, and perhaps all Israelis should get a free one way plane ticket to the lands of their origins before WW2 - ie. Poland, Germany, France, Russia (I am sure they would welcome that) etc. Its the only viable solution as Israel now seems unable to cope with the reality of living peacefully with its Arab neighbors who have tolerated their bullshit for more than 50 years. Time to move on and try to live somewhere else and leave the Arab states in peace. We are all tired of Israel and its self created problems and inablility to find the correct solutions.
Respectfully,
Cheng_Zi
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Anonymous on July 22, 2014, 09:34:42 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 22, 2014, 09:34:42 PM
Shen LiQuote from: "Cheng_Zi"
I read your post with great interest because I also have visited Israel but have a much different perspective than you. I found it to be a hot elitist shitty little country in the middle of a desert whose residents are living in lah lah land under a bubble (or as they now call it The Iron Dome). They constantly cry about being persecuted and worry about attacks from all sides. I wonder why that is? Individuals who think like that usually have to go to a doctor to get meds.
Yes, the holocaust, i agree did happen and was terrible, tragic, and unspeakable, but I find it ironic that these poor "persecuted" people are treating the Palestinians no better than the Nazis treated the Jews in pre war Europe. Putting them under seige, cutting off their water, food, and medicine while they bask in swimming pools and miles and miles of irrigated orchards for olives and grapes as Palestinians beg for water for basic humanitarian reasons.
I applaud Hamas for fighting against this facist oppressive Jewish state and the sooner Israel realizes that peace will only come through real negotiations for a two state solution there will always be war. And eventually the Arabic states will win and probably push Israel out to the sea. This is of course will take 100 years because they do now have support (now waning) of one powerful country in the world - USA and of course Conservative Canada. Thank goodness the Liberals will win the next election and we can get a more balanced approach to this problem Isreal has created for itself.
Its disproportiante response to small rockets from Hamas will be the undoing of Israel. The world has lost patience and its time to get a grip on reality. The Palestinians are the oppressed and the Israeli war machine has always been the trouble maker, bully, and aggressor. 600 Palestinians slaughtered (mostly civilians including countless babies) and Israel loses a few soldiers.....pretty good pinpoint accuracy with those drones and war planes Nutinyahoo (as John Kerry more or less said yesterday).
Hezbollah in the north has threatened to join the fight and ally with Hamas...if this happens Israel has a real problem and will learn it cannot bomb babies and women out of that prediciment. I used to feel sorry for Israel years ago but that has long since dried up and i now fully support whatever it takes to put them in their place. They produce nothing but war materials they sell to anyone in the world, other than that what else are they famous for? Gods chosen people is a myth based in a religon based on a myth. Christianity is probably the most violent and bloody religion in the world. The millions slaughtered over the centuries in the name of God is sickening. Remember what the christian romans did, remember the millions slaughtered during the Inquisitions of the middle ages , and of course the spaniards slaughtering the indiginous peoples of Central America. Christianity trumps Islam when it comes to extremisim.
History will show that plunking them all in the middle of Arab lands and dislocating Palestinians after WW2 was a major mistake. Too bad the Arab states didnt have a vote on that. My personal solution is that all the illegal settlements should be demolished or (even better) handed over to Palestinians who are the rightful owners, water should be channeled into Gaza and the West Bank where it rightfully belongs, and perhaps all Israelis should get a free one way plane ticket to the lands of their origins before WW2 - ie. Poland, Germany, France, Russia (I am sure they would welcome that) etc. Its the only viable solution as Israel now seems unable to cope with the reality of living peacefully with its Arab neighbors who have tolerated their bullshit for more than 50 years. Time to move on and try to live somewhere else and leave the Arab states in peace. We are all tired of Israel and its self created problems and inablility to find the correct solutions.
Respectfully,
Cheng_Zi
Welcome again Cheng_Zi..
:)
I did not read all of your post, but I will try to do it later.
Title: Re: Imagine If Canada Was Like Israel
Post by: Anonymous on July 23, 2014, 10:54:59 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 23, 2014, 10:54:59 AM