THeBlueCashew

....is it possible such as a freehold or fee simple arrangement?

Or is it all renting or limited lease for short period of time?

I wonder if Dove knows or can comment

Ive been thinking about alternatives to living in the city or apartment buildings

I really dont wanna go the condo route and buy a strata. One of my relatives actually inherited a condo outright with no pre-existing debt. However what happened is he drained his finances through monthly strata fees (referred to as HOMA fees in the US) and maintenance costs which got passed onto him and all the other occupants of the bldg

And as the bldg ages the costs keep mounting and the demands from the strata council for more repairs

So he can't really afford to stay in the bldg other than to continually take out reverse mortgages which is decimating his equity in the strata.

So I'd rather avoid his predicament and perhaps mistakes as he could have sold that condo when he inherited it and bought some land instead or perhaps a trailer

Anyway so I was just wondering if trailer parks offer that option of land ownership

How's my gold doing josephine? Keeping it safe for me for when the SHTF?  :popcorn:

Quote from: Lokmar on October 03, 2023, 12:24:01 AMHow's my gold doing josephine? Keeping it safe for me for when the SHTF?  :popcorn:

Got 10 worth....Lokmeer.

But Gold aint doin' so good lately, Bud.

It's been droppin' like a rock.

Silver too.

They say were gonna have a recession soon if we aren't in one already, eh?

Quote from: JOE on October 03, 2023, 01:06:47 AMGot 10 worth....Lokmeer.

But Gold aint doin' so good lately, Bud.

It's been droppin' like a rock.

Silver too.

They say were gonna have a recession soon if we aren't in one already, eh?

Keep buying josephine. Gold is going to $3200/oz within 10 years. You wont listen tho. You never do.

Quote from: JOE on October 02, 2023, 10:16:43 PM....is it possible such as a freehold or fee simple arrangement?

Or is it all renting or limited lease for short period of time?

I wonder if Dove knows or can comment

Ive been thinking about alternatives to living in the city or apartment buildings

I really dont wanna go the condo route and buy a strata. One of my relatives actually inherited a condo outright with no pre-existing debt. However what happened is he drained his finances through monthly strata fees (referred to as HOMA fees in the US) and maintenance costs which got passed onto him and all the other occupants of the bldg

And as the bldg ages the costs keep mounting and the demands from the strata council for more repairs

So he can't really afford to stay in the bldg other than to continually take out reverse mortgages which is decimating his equity in the strata.

So I'd rather avoid his predicament and perhaps mistakes as he could have sold that condo when he inherited it and bought some land instead or perhaps a trailer

Anyway so I was just wondering if trailer parks offer that option of land ownership

Generally....no.

If you owned it outright, it wouldn't be a valid part of the park.

There are a few here or there.... relics from decades ago... being phased out when they occupants die from old age.

If you want to live small, research rural land that doesn't bar the owners from building or planting a modular home or tiny house...(zoning and councils).

Quote from: Frood on October 03, 2023, 04:35:48 AMGenerally....no.

If you owned it outright, it wouldn't be a valid part of the park.

There are a few here or there.... relics from decades ago... being phased out when they occupants die from old age.

If you want to live small, research rural land that doesn't bar the owners from building or planting a modular home or tiny house...(zoning and councils).

So they kinda trap would be homeowners that way, huh?

Cut off one option and then force them to be inta stratas.

I see that a lot where I live.

"If you buy now, we'll give you 2 months free."

An attractive entry price point, low monthly strata/homa/maintenance fees.

And of course when they got their down payments, the strata fees keep going up.

And as the buildings age, so do the need for repairs which become costlier by the year.

Maybe I'll jes find a plot of land and sit on it for a while.

Then take out a loan build a house/structure/trailer on it one day, eh?

Quote from: JOE on October 03, 2023, 01:06:47 AMGot 10 worth....Lokmeer.

But Gold aint doin' so good lately, Bud.

It's been droppin' like a rock.

Silver too.

They say were gonna have a recession soon if we aren't in one already, eh?

Supply and demand strikes again. When money's too tight to mention, people have less use for precious baubles in the face of more immediate concerns.

I told you this would happen.

Here's a short video on the costs of building a bare bones standard sized home on an inexpensive piece of land without the interior finishing or the extras in US$:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPKcwcGLf78

...not sure how accurate this guy's prices/figures are.

In your own experience(s), anyone here care to comment what he missed or failed to mention in his cost estimate?

Quote from: JOE on October 02, 2023, 10:16:43 PM....is it possible such as a freehold or fee simple arrangement?

Or is it all renting or limited lease for short period of time?

I wonder if Dove knows or can comment

Ive been thinking about alternatives to living in the city or apartment buildings

I really dont wanna go the condo route and buy a strata. One of my relatives actually inherited a condo outright with no pre-existing debt. However what happened is he drained his finances through monthly strata fees (referred to as HOMA fees in the US) and maintenance costs which got passed onto him and all the other occupants of the bldg

And as the bldg ages the costs keep mounting and the demands from the strata council for more repairs

So he can't really afford to stay in the bldg other than to continually take out reverse mortgages which is decimating his equity in the strata.

So I'd rather avoid his predicament and perhaps mistakes as he could have sold that condo when he inherited it and bought some land instead or perhaps a trailer

Anyway so I was just wondering if trailer parks offer that option of land ownership

 Hey now. Just because i was living in a trailer doesn't mean I know shit about trailer parks lol.

 The place I lived was technically a camp ground. Owned by a family.

 As far as I know...you can't just buy a lot in a trailer park.

 If you want to live in a trailer or mod home....or tiny home...you can purchase land for that. That's what we were going to do. Or what I thought we were going to do.

Quote from: Dove on October 10, 2023, 06:07:08 PMHey now. Just because i was living in a trailer doesn't mean I know shit about trailer parks lol.

 The place I lived was technically a camp ground. Owned by a family.

 As far as I know...you can't just buy a lot in a trailer park.

 If you want to live in a trailer or mod home....or tiny home...you can purchase land for that. That's what we were going to do. Or what I thought we were going to do.

Thanks for your reply Dove.

So that's what I should do - look for a vacant lot of land somewhere outside my city.

Surprisingly, there still are some empty lots somewhat close to Vancouver that are still affordable. Not many but there's at least still a few. Vancouver has some of the highest property prices in North America. So I have no intention of ever buying here. A bachelor suite in my city is about the same price as a house in many cities in the States. I could rent for the next 30 years and it would be cheaper than buying a condo in my city.

Ironically, Vancouver is surrounded by the Sea and yet with all this available body of water they discourage people into alternative housing such as houseboats. I looked into it, and there's this huge waiting list for houseboat settlement. And if they are available, they're really expensive. So of course, they want people to buy into these condos.

Essentially, the city planners and politicians here are in kahoots with the developers and big money so they can line their pockets.

They claim they are interested in helping the people and solving the housing/homeless problem, but their actions make it clear that they are not.

They have them in Arizona -

https://www.mhvillage.com/blog/seven-fantastic-resident-owned-mobile-home-parks-in-arizona/

The website may be out of date, I'm not sure...

Quote from: Dove on October 10, 2023, 06:07:08 PMHey now. Just because i was living in a trailer doesn't mean I know shit about trailer parks lol.

 The place I lived was technically a camp ground. Owned by a family.

 As far as I know...you can't just buy a lot in a trailer park.

 If you want to live in a trailer or mod home....or tiny home...you can purchase land for that. That's what we were going to do. Or what I thought we were going to do.

Joe does not care. He wants attention.

Quote from: DKG on October 10, 2023, 07:29:38 PMJoe does not care. He wants attention.

This is all you get for $250,000 Canadian ($180,000 US) in Vancouver, DKG:

https://www.rew.ca/properties/5408297/1607-1251-cardero-street-vancouver-bc?direction=asc&page=1&search_params%5Bquery%5D=Vancouver%2C+BC&searchable_id=361&searchable_type=Geography&sort=price?direction=asc&page=1&search_params%5Bquery%5D=Vancouver%2C+BC&searchable_id=361&searchable_type=Geography&sort=price

..."A Prepaid lease to 2073"

That's all you get for yer money in Vancouver.

450 sq feet of nothin'

That's why I wanna get the hell outta here.

That's horseshit.

That's a lotta fuckin' money to be paying for something that isn't even permanent.

Even adjusted for inflation you could buy a house for that much back in the 90s. I remember when houses were selling for $100,000 then. So if you inflate that money, that's about $200-250,000 today.

Jo Jo, you can come live at my house. I have a large property perfect for us to grow our own beautiful garden. Doesn't that sound tempting.

Why is Old Man Joe going through this stage of his life now?

Most people his age are looking to downsize.

Is this because you came into a big chunk of money when your mother passed, Joe?  So you finally get to do things that regular adults do, like house shop?

How much cash are you working with, Senile Joe?

Quote from: TheProwler on October 11, 2023, 10:36:22 PMWhy is Old Man Joe going through this stage of his life now?

Most people his age are looking to downsize.

Is this because you came into a big chunk of money when your mother passed, Joe?  So you finally get to do things that regular adults do, like house shop?

How much cash are you working with, Senile Joe?

Not that much. He is a bum and a senior citizen virgin.

Quote from: Brent on October 11, 2023, 10:42:47 PMNot that much. He is a bum and a senior citizen virgin.

Yeah, Creepy Joe told a tale of standing in line at the Dollar Store where a cashier smiled at him.  It was an incredible experience and he considered asking her out.

It was something that happens to everyone just about everywhere they go, but Creepy Joe was sure that it was some kind of Soul Mate Love Connection.

After reading that, I knew Creepy Joe was a certain kind of special.

Quote from: TheProwler on October 12, 2023, 03:20:17 AMYeah, Creepy Joe told a tale of standing in line at the Dollar Store where a cashier smiled at him.  It was an incredible experience and he considered asking her out.

It was something that happens to everyone just about everywhere they go, but Creepy Joe was sure that it was some kind of Soul Mate Love Connection.

After reading that, I knew Creepy Joe was a certain kind of special.

BTW, did you remember to take your meds today, Prowler?

I know how agitated & angry you become when cornered.

I've seen it many times at BF.

And just remember, you are not & can never be like Brad Schlegel, even tho you wannabe Prowler.
Brad is handsome, wealthy and has a full head of hair.
You on the other hand, are an ugly and bald wannabe.

...Just thought I'd remind you, Prowler.

Quote from: JOE on October 12, 2023, 12:03:33 PMBTW, did you remember to take your meds today, Prowler?

I know how agitated & angry you become when cornered.

I've seen it many times at BF.

And just remember, you are not & can never be like Brad Schlegel, even tho you wannabe Prowler.
Brad is handsome, wealthy and has a full head of hair.
You on the other hand, are an ugly and bald wannabe.

...Just thought I'd remind you, Prowler.

Senile Joe, shall we look at some actual facts?


I have played and excelled at multiple sports since I was a young child.

I did so well in school that I was admitted to one of the Top 2 Mathematics schools in the world.

After graduating, I worked in software development for 2-3 years in junior/intermediate roles, after which I started a 7 year stint in the top IS/IT management position in a small insurance company.

In that time, less than 10 years in the work force, I had already bought and paid for my first house (a 3 bedroom condo townhouse).  I paid that mortgage off in under 5 years.

I then bought my current house with my wife.  A brand new 2700 square foot 4 bedroom house.  I finished the basement (mostly) by myself, boosting our living space to over 3600 square feet.

After developing the best software in the entire sector of group insurance, I decided that I did not want to work so hard, so I went out on my own.

I have not had a boss in over 20 years.  Unless you count my wife.

I have not worked hard for more than an occasional week or two stint in over 20 years.

I am basically fully retired, although I do spend about 50-75 hours per year keeping my business functional.

My wife is fully retired since the age of 49.

I still play hockey.

I still play baseball.

I still play several other sports at a recreational level.

I play guitar in several music acts.

I can give you a glimpse of my schedule any time you like, Senile Joe.  It is packed with fun activities.  Because being retired with a lot of free time is the privilege I earned, Senile Joe.

It is too late for you, Weepy Joe.  You did not take the opportunities that were there for you.  Or, more likely, you lacked the natural abilities to excel.

Just thought I would remind you.

Oh, this was me at the speedway just a few weeks ago...in one of my sports cars....

(https://i.imgur.com/sCXpqVv.jpg)

Joe is a broke and a virgin.

Quote from: TheProwler on October 12, 2023, 08:40:21 PMSenile Joe, shall we look at some actual facts?


I have played and excelled at multiple sports since I was a young child.

I did so well in school that I was admitted to one of the Top 2 Mathematics schools in the world.

After graduating, I worked in software development for 2-3 years in junior/intermediate roles, after which I started a 7 year stint in the top IS/IT management position in a small insurance company.

In that time, less than 10 years in the work force, I had already bought and paid for my first house (a 3 bedroom condo townhouse).  I paid that mortgage off in under 5 years.

I then bought my current house with my wife.  A brand new 2700 square foot 4 bedroom house.  I finished the basement (mostly) by myself, boosting our living space to over 3600 square feet.

After developing the best software in the entire sector of group insurance, I decided that I did not want to work so hard, so I went out on my own.

I have not had a boss in over 20 years.  Unless you count my wife.

I have not worked hard for more than an occasional week or two stint in over 20 years.

I am basically fully retired, although I do spend about 50-75 hours per year keeping my business functional.

My wife is fully retired since the age of 49.

I still play hockey.

I still play baseball.

I still play several other sports at a recreational level.

I play guitar in several music acts.

I can give you a glimpse of my schedule any time you like, Senile Joe.  It is packed with fun activities.  Because being retired with a lot of free time is the privilege I earned, Senile Joe.

It is too late for you, Weepy Joe.  You did not take the opportunities that were there for you.  Or, more likely, you lacked the natural abilities to excel.

Just thought I would remind you.

Oh, this was me at the speedway just a few weeks ago...in one of my sports cars....

(https://i.imgur.com/sCXpqVv.jpg)

I know Jo Jo is not very successful, but he is great in bed.

Quote from: Thiel on October 12, 2023, 11:32:30 PMI know Jo Jo is not very successful, but he is great in bed.

If you consider "great in bed" to be face first into a pillow while getting your ass pounded...

Yeah, Senile Joe must be great in bed!!!

Quote from: TheProwler on October 13, 2023, 02:58:08 PMIf you consider "great in bed" to be face first into a pillow while getting your ass pounded...

Yeah, Senile Joe must be great in bed!!!

Yes, that is what I meant.