She got it first. Yesterday was not a good day. My throat was so sore I could barely swallow. I am a little better today.
I got three jabs and the old lady had four. Those COVID vaccines are expensive ripoffs.
Quote from: Herman on December 12, 2023, 09:29:46 PMShe got it first. Yesterday was not a good day. My throat was so sore I could barely swallow. I am a little better today.
I got three jabs and the old lady had four. Those COVID vaccines are expensive ripoffs.
My sympathies Herman.
Hope you get better soon.
How long did it take for symptoms to set in?
When did you first notice them?
Quote from: JOE on December 12, 2023, 10:51:26 PMHow long did it take for symptoms to set in?
When did you first notice them?
Sunday. The old lady caught it, so I knew I would.
Quote from: JOE on December 12, 2023, 10:41:13 PMMy sympathies Herman.
Hope you get better soon.
It aint a big deal. Probably a week with a sore throat and no energy. I am glad I caught it now instead of mid fall when I have fifteen hours a day of work on the farm.
Dose up on vitamin C, as much as you can stomach. I used to pig out on 1000mg tablets - scarfed entire handfuls of the buggers, which likely gave my kidneys a bit of a workout, but at least I was assured my unwanted hitchhikers were practically swimming in the stuff. I also used to drink a lot of fruit juice... proper fruit juice mind you, not the reconstituted stuff. Great for soothing the throat, as well as flushing out the bugs.
The last cold I had (which a rapid antigen test insisted was the dreaded pinko pox) lasted about two days of symptoms. Mind you, I also vaped constantly throughout and there have been a few french studies that have claimed a connection between nicotine and lessened symptoms. Whatever, I've been laid up with worse colds than the last one and I always seemed to recover markedly quicker than healthier and more active people I knew, so...
In any event, you and your lady get well soon.
Quote from: Herman on December 12, 2023, 09:29:46 PMShe got it first. Yesterday was not a good day. My throat was so sore I could barely swallow. I am a little better today.
I got three jabs and the old lady had four. Those COVID vaccines are expensive ripoffs.
That is too bad Herman. You are a tough old codger. I have no doubt you will make a full recovery in no time.
Quote from: Herman on December 12, 2023, 10:58:14 PMIt aint a big deal. Probably a week with a sore throat and no energy. I am glad I caught it now instead of mid fall when I have fifteen hours a day of work on the farm.
Which brand or brands did you and your wife vaxx with?
Pfizer? Moderna? or other(s)?
Have some of your kid's 'special medicine' and you'll be fine
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Quote from: JOE on December 13, 2023, 10:42:00 AMWhich brand or brands did you and your wife vaxx with?
Pfizer? Moderna? or other(s)?
What the hell does that matter. None of them do what they were supposed to do and this is stop folks from catching COVID.
Quote from: Herman on December 13, 2023, 10:43:26 PMWhat the hell does that matter. None of them do what they were supposed to do and this is stop folks from catching COVID.
Just wondering cuz some vaccines appear to be (much?) better or effective than others.
I got the Moderna (2x) the first time, and 3rd shot was Novavax.
Reason I got Moderna first time is its safety record was better than Pfizer. I was concerned about stories coming from it crippling people, giving them heart attacks. And this was before reports of infections and people coming down with Covid AFTER they were vaccinated. Pfizer has or had a very poor record in this regard.
Reason I got a single shot of Novavax was it appeared to be more effective at preventing Omicron, which was the next wave Covid.
I'm not entirely sure if these vaccines were effective or not, but as a far as I know from the symptoms you and other have described, I didn't catch Covid. Hopefully I never will.
I just never got the Pfizer jab after hearing about its adverse effects.
Plus I waited a long time in between vaccinations instead of the time frames that were recommended by the authorities. I figger the body needed time to absorb them. I thought the recommneded dosage was too soon.
The Moderna was esp painful as I experienced swelling of the joints and pains all over the body. I needed anti inflamatory drugs to bring the swelling down. After than I decided never to get Moderna or any other mRNA vaccine ever again.
The Novavax also came with its share of side effects - extreme itchiness all over body.
Quote from: JOE on December 13, 2023, 10:55:50 PMJust wondering cuz some vaccines appear to be (much?) better or effective than others.
I got the Moderna (2x) the first time, and 3rd shot was Novavax.
Reason I got Moderna first time is its safety record was better than Pfizer. I was concerned about stories coming from it crippling people, giving them heart attacks. And this was before the infections and people coming down with Covid AFTER they were vaccinated. Pfizer has or had a very poor record in this regard.
Reason I got a single shot of Novavax was it appeared to be more effective at preventing Omicron, which was the next wave Covid.
I'm not entirely sure if these vaccines were effective or not, but as a far as I know from the symptoms you and other have described, I didn't catch Covid. Hopefully I never will.
I just never got the Pfizer jab after hearing about its adverse effects.
Plus I waited a long time in between vaccinations instead of the time frames that were recommended by the authorities. I figger the body needed time to absorb them. I thought the recommneded dosage was too soon.
The Moderna was esp painful as I experienced swelling of the joints and pains all over the body.
The Novavax also came with its share of side effects - extreme itchiness all over body.
The old lady had two Moderna and two Novascam shots. I had two Moderna and one Pfartzer.
All vaccines were an expensive big pharma ripoff.
Quote from: Herman on December 13, 2023, 10:43:26 PMWhat the hell does that matter. None of them do what they were supposed to do and this is stop folks from catching COVID.
one could make the argument that they're doing EXACTLY what they're supposed to do.... which is nothing like what they TOLD you they're supposed to do....
Quote from: deadskinmask on December 13, 2023, 11:09:03 PMone could make the argument that they're doing EXACTLY what they're supposed to do.... which is nothing like what they TOLD you they're supposed to do....
Brother, you nailed it. :drunk2:
Quote from: Herman on December 13, 2023, 10:59:58 PMThe old lady had two Moderna and two Novascam shots. I had two Moderna and one Pfartzer.
All vaccines were an expensive big pharma ripoff.
Oddly, a simple cheap vaccine that's been around for a long time, might have or offers more protection than the COVID vaccines:
MMR. Some nations that got vaccinated with it before COVID came along had much lower infection rates and deaths than everybody else:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
...like Samoa and Madagascar. Much lower per million than Canada.
But a simple trick like that...vaxxing with alternatives was never tried or promoted by the World Health Authorities.
But some did suggest or recommend MMR to combat the coronavirus.
I got the MMR vaccine along with a bunch of other traditional ones as well just prior to the Pandemic.
Quote from: deadskinmask on December 13, 2023, 11:09:03 PMone could make the argument that they're doing EXACTLY what they're supposed to do.... which is nothing like what they TOLD you they're supposed to do....
And yet it would appear that a simple vaccine which has been around for a while...MMR...may have done a better job at preventing COVID than Pfizer and Moderna...combined.
Ivermectin is safe, cheap and is a good treatment.
Quote from: Herman on December 14, 2023, 12:06:26 AMIvermectin is safe, cheap and is a good treatment.
did you take it prior to coming down with covid?
I was interested in getting some, but I think the authorities have made it ultra difficult to buy it. As you point out, they want Pig Pharma to have a monopoly on vaccines.
I had the J&J shot. Only did it once.
I'm only worried about covid because my boyfriend has MS and his meds weaken his immune system. I worry alot more about influenza but covid is a concern for me.
There is no point in me getting it if he won't. And he wont. He is weird about all of the covid shot options.
I can't even get through a day without him. I would not survive losing him....so I am trying to convince him lol.
I'm gonna be paranoid this winter.
Quote from: Dove on December 14, 2023, 01:26:50 AMI had the J&J shot. Only did it once.
I'm only worried about covid because my boyfriend has MS and his meds weaken his immune system. I worry alot more about influenza but covid is a concern for me.
There is no point in me getting it if he won't. And he wont. He is weird about all of the covid shot options.
I can't even get through a day without him. I would not survive losing him....so I am trying to convince him lol.
I'm gonna be paranoid this winter.
Don't be paranoid, Dove!
I'll send ya Joe's patented cat sculptures ta ward off the evil spirits and keep ya safe!
Quote from: JOE on December 14, 2023, 01:30:17 AMDon't be paranoid, Dove!
I'll send ya Joe's patented cat sculptures ta ward off the evil spirits and keep ya safe!
My attachment to this man probably isn't normal or healthy. I'm good with that. Its real and I honor it. I am a psycho.
I cried for days and forced him to talk to me constantly when he got diagnosed with MS back in 2016.
I'm terrified of him getting sick because his meds are heavy.. and weaken his immune system. And ill die without him lol.
I'm ready for germ season though. I got regular disinfectant. My natural "hippie shit"(as he calls it)....OTC meds up the ying yang...essential oils...humidifiers, supplements, shit tons of zinc and C and elderberry... everything. I have it all.
And Xanax for when that's not enough lol
Quote from: Dove on December 14, 2023, 01:36:55 AMMy attachment to this man probably isn't normal or healthy. I'm good with that. Its real and I honor it. I am a psycho.
I cried for days and forced him to talk to me constantly when he got diagnosed with MS back in 2016.
I'm terrified of him getting sick because his meds are heavy.. and weaken his immune system. And ill die without him lol.
I'm ready for germ season though. I got regular disinfectant. My natural "hippie shit"(as he calls it)....OTC meds up the ying yang...essential oils...humidifiers, supplements, shit tons of zinc and C and elderberry... everything. I have it all.
And Xanax for when that's not enough lol
MS is often caused by places with shitty weather - like Canada.
Long winters, little sunlight. I think where Herman lives MS is really bad. Highest in the world.
One reason I may be moving outta Vancouver soon - at least during the Winter months because we don't get enough sunshine or Vitamin D. If the body doesn't manufacture D, then it leaves man vulnerable to MS. Places with lotsa sunshine and good weather are less prone to it.
MS even felled a very good big strong professional hockey player like Dave Balon:
he was championship calibre won the Cup.
But his career was cut short by MS
He was from Saskatchewan where Herman lives.
Quote from: JOE on December 14, 2023, 01:42:48 AMMS is often caused by places with shitty weather - like Canada.
Long winters, little sunlight. I think where Herman lives MS is really bad. Highest in the world.
One reason I may be moving outta Vancouver soon - at least during the Winter months because we don't get enough sunshine or Vitamin D. If the body doesn't manufacture D, then it leaves man vulnerable to MS. Places with lotsa sunshine and good weather are less prone to it.
I really do not think the weather had anything to do with his MS.
I'm talking about multiple sclerosis.
But I always have a liquid spray vitamin D for when it's winter and we don't get much sun.
I was pleased to see he wasn't lying to me when he told me he takes vitamins everyday and records his vitals every week. He does work outs. He has brain exercises he does to keep himself sharp.
He shaves with a razor just to train his hands to not shake and so he notices any change in his motor skills.
He is on it. So I'm not AS anxious as I was like...last year when he was here alone and decided to go shovel snow in the middle of the night like an asshole.
Quote from: JOE on December 14, 2023, 01:47:19 AMMS even felled a very good big strong professional hockey player like Dave Balon:
he was championship calibre won the Cup.
But his career was cut short by MS
He was from Saskatchewan where Herman lives.
Yes it terrifies me.
So far he has no signs and it's been since 2016 that we knew.
But I'm very aware one day that can change drastically.
I just Thank God for each day he is healthy and ask for another. So far so good.
We read about all the new treatments and progress. Not a whole lot of that...but we stay on top of it just in case.
Quote from: Dove on December 14, 2023, 01:51:03 AMI really do not think the weather had anything to do with his MS.
I'm talking about multiple sclerosis.
But I always have a liquid spray vitamin D for when it's winter and we don't get much sun.
I was pleased to see he wasn't lying to me when he told me he takes vitamins everyday and records his vitals every week. He does work outs. He has brain exercises he does to keep himself sharp.
He shaves with a razor just to train his hands to not shake and so he notices any change in his motor skills.
He is on it. So I'm not AS anxious as I was like...last year when he was here alone and decided to go shovel snow in the middle of the night like an asshole.
Is he on disability?
Does he get an allowance from the government?
do they provide him with free healthcare due to his condition?
In Canada that'd be an automatic disability cheque every month.
Once a person is considered too ill to work, the government usu supports them here.
Quote from: JOE on December 14, 2023, 01:55:43 AMIs he on disability?
Does he get an allowance from the government?
do they provide him with free healthcare due to his condition?
In Canada that'd be an automatic disability cheque every month.
Once a person is considered too ill to work, the government usu supports them here.
He is a freelance writer and no he gets no government assistance.
He is on a medically fragile insurance through the state that he has no choice but to have.
He is working on his own business right now. He can buy his own insurance but he still has to have this. And it's not bad insurance ....however I don't like his doctors. Bad communication. They don't do MRIs every year and it's been two years and I'm wanting him to have one.
And his feet have some weird numbness. He says it always feels like he has socks on. Not total loss of sensation but a loss...and it's been like that for a while before he started fussing about it.
His biggest fear is ending up in a wheel chair.
Michigan has an unreal amount of MS afflicted.
Quote from: JOE on December 13, 2023, 10:55:50 PMJust wondering cuz some vaccines appear to be (much?) better or effective than others.
I got the Moderna (2x) the first time, and 3rd shot was Novavax.
Reason I got Moderna first time is its safety record was better than Pfizer. I was concerned about stories coming from it crippling people, giving them heart attacks. And this was before reports of infections and people coming down with Covid AFTER they were vaccinated. Pfizer has or had a very poor record in this regard.
Reason I got a single shot of Novavax was it appeared to be more effective at preventing Omicron, which was the next wave Covid.
I'm not entirely sure if these vaccines were effective or not, but as a far as I know from the symptoms you and other have described, I didn't catch Covid. Hopefully I never will.
I just never got the Pfizer jab after hearing about its adverse effects.
Plus I waited a long time in between vaccinations instead of the time frames that were recommended by the authorities. I figger the body needed time to absorb them. I thought the recommneded dosage was too soon.
The Moderna was esp painful as I experienced swelling of the joints and pains all over the body. I needed anti inflamatory drugs to bring the swelling down. After than I decided never to get Moderna or any other mRNA vaccine ever again.
The Novavax also came with its share of side effects - extreme itchiness all over body.
Itchiness is a sign of an allergy.
You were lucky you didn't get a worse allergic reaction and dying.
Quote from: Herman on December 12, 2023, 09:29:46 PMShe got it first. Yesterday was not a good day. My throat was so sore I could barely swallow. I am a little better today.
I got three jabs and the old lady had four. Those COVID vaccines are expensive ripoffs.
Shared the bong did you?
I told you covid hurts.
Quote from: JOE on December 13, 2023, 11:42:54 PMAnd yet it would appear that a simple vaccine which has been around for a while...MMR...may have done a better job at preventing COVID than Pfizer and Moderna...combined.
look, man.... modern medicine is completely off the fuckin rails.... the best thing you can do is stop taking injections altogether.... you can't inject "health".... eat right and take better care of yourself if you're "concerned".... but stop thinking doctors are trying to help you.... they don't give a fuck about you....
Quote from: deadskinmask on December 14, 2023, 05:40:21 AMlook, man.... modern medicine is completely off the fuckin rails.... the best thing you can do is stop taking injections altogether.... you can't inject "health".... eat right and take better care of yourself if you're "concerned".... but stop thinking doctors are trying to help you.... they don't give a fuck about you....
Some might. There are people who get into the trade because they genuinely want to make a difference in their communities. What percentage they make up of the total I really couldn't say.
The MMR... Dovey and I got into a slanging match back in the day over some of its reported side effects, some of which were mentioned in the documentary "Vaxxed". This particular documentary also cast aspersions on the attempts of a CDC coverup, as well as shining a light on some of the raw data of which groups of infants were more likely to be affected and pharmaceutical giant Merck's decision to render the MMR as the only treatment by pulling all others off the market a mere month after doctors started asking questions.
Kind of like what we witnessed in the whole COVID thing, really...
Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on December 14, 2023, 08:16:44 AMSome might. There are people who get into the trade because they genuinely want to make a difference in their communities. What percentage they make up of the total I really couldn't say.
The MMR... Dovey and I got into a slanging match back in the day over some of its reported side effects, some of which were mentioned in the documentary "Vaxxed". This particular documentary also cast aspersions on the attempts of a CDC coverup, as well as shining a light on some of the raw data of which groups of infants were more likely to be affected and pharmaceutical giant Merck's decision to render the MMR as the only treatment by pulling all others off the market a mere month after doctors started asking questions.
Kind of like what we witnessed in the whole COVID thing, really...
when i was checking out flat earth, it took me down alot of rabbit holes.... the rockefellers and what they did to medicine and education were unforgivable.... "a patient cured is a customer lost" has always remained in the forefront of my thoughts when "dealing with doctors".... the journey has been a real wake-up call for me but trying to "sound the alarm" is almost pointless....
Pretty much. Pointless.
Quote from: deadskinmask on December 14, 2023, 10:09:55 AM...trying to "sound the alarm" is almost pointless....
I'd have to agree with you there. People as an aggregate tend toward the need to suffer Personal Pain before they'll come to the table.
Quote from: caskur on December 14, 2023, 03:04:20 AMShared the bong did you?
I told you covid hurts.
I had COVID and I have had a jab. It is not bad enough to warrant the draconian measures we took. I would guess Herman would agree.
Quote from: deadskinmask on December 14, 2023, 05:40:21 AMlook, man.... modern medicine is completely off the fuckin rails.... the best thing you can do is stop taking injections altogether.... you can't inject "health".... eat right and take better care of yourself if you're "concerned".... but stop thinking doctors are trying to help you.... they don't give a fuck about you....
I think there was a way to combat the coronavirus, but merely vaxxing with Pfizer or Moderna clearly didn't work.
I took a different route and vaxxed with other products which I thought could combat the virus.
What I gathered was that COVID was some hybrid virus made up from many others. ie - why did people come down with meningitis, pneumonia, encephalitis, shingles, loss of hair if this was a singular virus. So I thought it came out of a lab. I felt that the official explanation didn't make any sense. And there were also stories of patients recovering from the virus who cross-vaccinated like this boy from your part of the world who got the meningitis vaccine prior to catching COVID. It may have saved his life. And there were other stories just lie his:
(Watch on YouTube)
therefore, the logical route was to vax with those products which offered protection against the symptoms which unfolded. Cross protection. I didn't just get the covid vaccine. I got many other shots as well. like 5 different vaccines other than Moderna. MMR. Meningitis. Hep B. Shingles. Pneumonia. I chose the Vax to the Max strategy.
So far as I know, I didn't get COVID but I was probably exposed to it as I drove many people who may have come down with it.
Quote from: Oliver the Second on December 13, 2023, 05:13:43 PMHave some of your kid's 'special medicine' and you'll be fine
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:crampe:
Quote from: Herman on December 12, 2023, 09:29:46 PMShe got it first. Yesterday was not a good day. My throat was so sore I could barely swallow. I am a little better today.
I got three jabs and the old lady had four. Those COVID vaccines are expensive ripoffs.
I've had 3 doses and the rona twice. All the vaccines are super-expensive placebos.
Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on December 14, 2023, 08:16:44 AMSome might. There are people who get into the trade because they genuinely want to make a difference in their communities. What percentage they make up of the total I really couldn't say.
The MMR... Dovey and I got into a slanging match back in the day over some of its reported side effects, some of which were mentioned in the documentary "Vaxxed". This particular documentary also cast aspersions on the attempts of a CDC coverup, as well as shining a light on some of the raw data of which groups of infants were more likely to be affected and pharmaceutical giant Merck's decision to render the MMR as the only treatment by pulling all others off the market a mere month after doctors started asking questions.
Kind of like what we witnessed in the whole COVID thing, really...
Well I still hold true to my position on MMR....however I'm much more open to the scrutiny.
When you and I were tusseling over that, didn't I just give birth to my last child? I was pretty hyper sensitive and I can be VERY stubborn. I also felt like you were making fun of me (because you probably were lol) and that makes me even bitchier.
But no I absolutely get the issues people have. You are a very smart guy so you know even the other side has its share of propaganda and agendas.
It's hard to find that balanced middle ground.
And I'm on your side of the MRNA vaccine shit. Fuck that stuff.
Quote from: caskur on December 14, 2023, 03:04:20 AMShared the bong did you?
I told you covid hurts.
No, it doesn't hurt. You have been drinking the Kool Aid.
It is a frickin cold for Christ sake. I am already seventy percent over it.
I have never had a flu vaccine or a Covid vaccine and I plan to keep it that way.
The only prescription medicine that I have had in the last 20 or 30 years was a mild antibiotic.
Joe, do you still drive limos? If not, when did you stop? And why?
Quote from: Herman on December 14, 2023, 10:49:07 PMNo, it doesn't hurt. You have been drinking the Kool Aid.
It is a frickin cold for Christ sake. I am already seventy percent over it.
Quote from: Herman on December 12, 2023, 09:29:46 PMMy throat was so sore I could barely swallow. I am a little better today.
Contradict much ol' boy?
It is not just a cold and the vaccine is not just a vaccine but a treatment so you survive the virus that kills people.
Quote from: Shen Li on December 14, 2023, 04:13:48 PMI've had 3 doses and the rona twice. All the vaccines are super-expensive placebos.
You got it twice huh? Unlucky. How do you think you caught it the second time?
The only people that I know who got the Wu Flu, took between 1-4 doses of the Wu Flu Goo beforehand.
And some of them have out of nowhere cancers, heart disease, and uncharacteristic auto immune diseases since too...
People who got jabbed were so gullible.... :Doh2:
Quote from: Frood on December 15, 2023, 03:05:28 AMThe only people that I know who got the Wu Flu, took between 1-4 doses of the Wu Flu Goo beforehand.
And some of them have out of nowhere cancers, heart disease, and uncharacteristic auto immune diseases since too...
People who got jabbed were so gullible.... :Doh2:
I just got the two recommended novavax as you well know.
I couldn't care less what other people did or do. They are going to do what feels right for them.
You are going to do what you feel is right for you.
Quote from: caskur on December 15, 2023, 03:21:29 AMI just got the two recommended novavax as you well know.
I couldn't care less what other people did or do. They are going to do what feels right for them.
You are going to do what you feel is right for you.
"Stay healthy" was right for me and mine....
:popcorn:
Quote from: TheProwler on December 15, 2023, 02:32:45 AMThe only prescription medicine that I have had in the last 20 or 30 years was a mild antibiotic.
Herpes or Chlamydia?
We were told:
"get the vax and you wont get covid"
"get the vax and when you get covid, you wont spread it"
"vax immunity is better than immunity after having covid"
"the vax is completely safe"
Are ANY of these statements true? I was called a murderer during COVID. Well, I'm a proud murderer!
Dont even get me started on if a mask stops a virus!
Quote from: Lokmar on December 15, 2023, 10:23:21 AMWe were told:
"get the vax and you wont get covid"
"get the vax and when you get covid, you wont spread it"
"vax immunity is better than immunity after having covid"
"the vax is completely safe"
Are ANY of these statements true? I was called a murderer during COVID. Well, I'm a proud murderer!
Dont even get me started on if a mask stops a virus!
Trust the science. :s_laugh:
Quote from: Oliver the Second on December 15, 2023, 09:52:09 AMHerpes or Chlamydia?
No, it was not for an STD.
I actually forget what it was for, but I remember getting that prescription because I almost never get prescriptions.
Quote from: caskur on December 15, 2023, 02:53:24 AMContradict much ol' boy?
It is not just a cold and the vaccine is not just a vaccine but a treatment so you survive the virus that kills people.
No,
Quote from: caskur on December 15, 2023, 02:53:24 AMContradict much ol' boy?
Quote from: caskur on December 15, 2023, 02:53:24 AMContradict much ol' boy?
It is not just a cold and the vaccine is not just a vaccine but a treatment so you survive the virus that kills people.
It is not just a cold and the vaccine is not just a vaccine but a treatment so you survive the virus that kills people.
For a day and like a cold. Like I said, it is like a cold. Nothing to fear and no contradiction.
All the vaccines are utterly useless. They offer no protection from catching the rona cold.
Quote from: caskur on December 15, 2023, 02:59:43 AMYou got it twice huh? Unlucky. How do you think you caught it the second time?
Because I took three jabs of those horseshit vaccines that provide little to now immunity.
We tried to warn youse all...
Quote from: Frood on December 16, 2023, 01:07:11 AMWe tried to warn youse all...
Warn me about what. I only got vaccinated, so I can travel. I never had any faith in any of the rona vaccines. If they worked, we would have ended social distancing and masking immediately.
Quote from: Shen Li on December 16, 2023, 01:19:01 AMWarn me about what. I only got vaccinated, so I can travel. I never had any faith in any of the rona vaccines. If they worked, we would have ended social distancing and masking immediately.
It's a bio weapon that slowly kills.
Quote from: Herman on December 15, 2023, 11:27:16 PMNo,
It is not just a cold and the vaccine is not just a vaccine but a treatment so you survive the virus that kills people.
For a day and like a cold. Like I said, it is like a cold. Nothing to fear and no contradiction.
All the vaccines are utterly useless. They offer no protection from catching the rona cold.
How would know its useless???.... you were vaccinated.
The FDA released the final batch of documents it relied upon in licensing Pfizer's Comirnaty COVID-19 vaccine for ages 16 and up—more than 800 days after the agency approved the shot.
The documents are "finally in the hands of the public, where they belong," the Informed Consent Action Network said in a press release. "Now, independent scientists and researchers can see everything FDA saw when it made its decision that this vaccine was 'safe and effective.'"
The recent documents disclosed as part of a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit against the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) show the agency knew its safety monitoring system was "not sufficient" for assessing the risk of heart conditions associated with Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine when it licensed the company's "Comirnaty" vaccine.
Quote from: caskur on December 17, 2023, 08:00:35 AMHow would know its useless???.... you were vaccinated.
HE WAS TRIPLE VAXXED AND GOT THE RONA. Like duh caskur.
Well the covid shots don't really prevent covid infections nor do they prevent spreading but the reason is like with the flu shot....you may still catch it but you won't get nearly as sick as you would have if you didn't have it.
Quote from: Dove on December 17, 2023, 06:35:58 PMWell the covid shots don't really prevent covid infections nor do they prevent spreading but the reason is like with the flu shot....you may still catch it but you won't get nearly as sick as you would have if you didn't have it.
Then stop pretending it's a vax. I was jabbed 3 times and I caught the fucking rona twice.
We spent billions of taxpayers money on these horseshit vaccines when we already had effective treatments that we know alleviate symptoms and at a fraction of the price.
As for the seasonal flu vaccine, in my province it prevents individuals from catching seasonal influenza between 40 and 60 percent of the time.
The seasoanl vaccines are based on what they believe will be the flu strains that year. With the fake rona vaxxes, they know the variant and they still doesn't stop transmission.
Quote from: Shen Li on December 17, 2023, 06:39:36 PMThen stop pretending it's a vax. I was jabbed 3 times and I caught the fucking rona twice.
We spent billions of taxpayers money on these horseshit vaccines when we already had effective treatments that we know alleviate symptoms and at a fraction of the price.
I'm not pretending anything. I don't even bother getting them. I'm just saying what the idea behind them is.
I got the one J&J. That's it. I'm not getting that MRNA shit.
Like you said there are other ways to get through the symptoms.
Quote from: Dove on December 17, 2023, 06:53:08 PMI'm not pretending anything. I don't even bother getting them. I'm just saying what the idea behind them is.
I got the one J&J. That's it. I'm not getting that MRNA shit.
Like you said there are other ways to get through the symptoms.
Sorry, I don't mean you specifically. Collectively, why do we call them vaccines when they do not prevent transmission.
Quote from: Shen Li on December 17, 2023, 06:56:23 PMSorry, I don't mean you specifically. Collectively, why do we call them vaccines when they do not prevent transmission.
Because they changed the definition of 'vaccine'.
https://www.iflscience.com/fact-check-why-did-the-cdc-change-its-definition-of-vaccination-62577
Quote from: Shen Li on December 17, 2023, 06:56:23 PMSorry, I don't mean you specifically. Collectively, why do we call them vaccines when they do not prevent transmission.
Gotcha
I was gonna say....You've seen my opinions lol
They changed what vaccine means. So it's as Orwellian as usual.
Quote from: Dove on December 17, 2023, 06:35:58 PMWell the covid shots don't really prevent covid infections nor do they prevent spreading but the reason is like with the flu shot....you may still catch it but you won't get nearly as sick as you would have if you didn't have it.
Dove the hardest thing I ever had to do in my life was enforce a government vaccine mandate and let go four of my employees. It ripped my libertarian heart out when I did that.
Quote from: Shen Li on December 17, 2023, 06:20:07 PMHE WAS TRIPLE VAXXED AND GOT THE RONA. Like duh caskur.
Had he NOT had the shots he would have died. He is in the high risk category for death.
They said in Australia the shots were to take away the severity of the virus not that you wouldn't catch it. If you were told differently then you should get onto your media for false reporting.
And dont you duh me ya little snot nosed runt.
Quote from: caskur on December 17, 2023, 08:51:39 PMHad he NOT had the shots he would have died. He is in the high risk category for death.
They said in Australia the shots were to take away the severity of the virus not that you wouldn't catch it. If you were told differently then you should get onto your media for false reporting.
And dont you duh me ya little snot nosed runt.
That is a ridicuolus unprovable comment and you know it. Nobody knows if those vaccines work as treatments. We do know however, they do not work as vaccines.
We have no proof vaccines work as treatments, but we do know they have killed people.
Quote from: Thiel on December 17, 2023, 08:09:59 PMDove the hardest thing I ever had to do in my life was enforce a government vaccine mandate and let go four of my employees. It ripped my libertarian heart out when I did that.
I'd have quit.
People say I'm wild and I don't plan well and that may be true.
But i would have quit right then.
Yesterday, I fell off the tractor and broke two ribs when I was cleaning the windows. Ya, I had a few thimbles of barrel wash.
Quote from: Herman on December 17, 2023, 09:32:41 PMYesterday, I fell off the tractor and broke two ribs when I was cleaning the windows. Ya, I had a few thimbles of barrel wash.
Dude! No tractor after barrel wash!
Barrel wash AFTER the tractor lol.
Feel better :drunk2:
Quote from: Thiel on December 17, 2023, 09:00:49 PMThat is a ridicuolus unprovable comment and you know it. Nobody knows if those vaccines work as treatments. We do know however, they do not work as vaccines.
Nothing I ever say is unprovable so what part do you require proof over?
From a board we all talked about jabs, the do and don't and everything covid in Australia with a Canadian too...
Hang on, let me get links.
Quote from: Dove on December 17, 2023, 09:37:39 PMDude! No tractor after barrel wash!
Barrel wash AFTER the tractor lol.
Feel better :drunk2:
Now ya tell me kid.
Quote from: caskur on December 17, 2023, 09:42:11 PMNothing I ever say is unprovable so what part do you require proof over?
Vaccines that are not vaccines saved our lives???? Even the CDC admitted folks are more likely to get COVID and have worse symptoms if they are multi-vaccinated like we are and catch the latest strain like we did. They have since scrubbed that leak, but I saw it before they did.
Come on caskur, you are better than this. Ya aint getting paid. Why shill for big pharma.
I am not rehash all your right winged conspiracy bullshit.
Who said This, who said fucking that... bah bah bah times eternity
...you all got vaccinated so you are all full of shit.. as for the timeline it's all recorded on another board as PROOF WHAT WAS REPORTED IN THE MEDIA....
Looking at the figures for NSW from 26/11/21 to 12/02/2022.
We know that vaccination did not make you immune to COVID, but it certainly improved your chances of surviving. Those who were unvaccinated made up only 4.6 per cent of COVID-19 cases, but 22.8 per cent of deaths were among people who had not received any doses. The unvaccinated are grossly over-represented in terms of deaths.
If you caught COVID-19 after receiving two or more doses of a vaccine, you had one chance in 800 of dying. If you caught it unvaccinated, your chance of dying of the disease was one in 126.
www.smh.com.au/national/people-are-still-dying-from-covid-but-who-and-are-they-vaccinated-20220314-p5a4d6.html
My vaccinated 77 year old obese stepfather, 2 aunties 75, 83 and twin brother, and 77 year old neighbour have been vaccinated multiple times and never caught covid nor suffered ill affects from the jab and quite frankly everybody's paranoia is quite mind boggling to me.
Just keep your miseries to yourselves... you are hypocrites that got vaccinated and lucky to survive a VERY painful virus.
Shuddup already.
That's funny caskur, because the CDC said fols were more likely to catch the strain the old lady and I did if you were vaccintated.
Hospitalizations in Saskatchewan are negligible. Vaccinated or not vaccinated. But, at least you admit they aint vaccines that prevent the spread.
The owner of this forum had COVID and he aint vaccinated. You said if you get COVID and you aint vaccinated, you die. That was your Rachel Maddow moment.
Quote from: DKG on December 17, 2023, 12:03:19 PMThe FDA released the final batch of documents it relied upon in licensing Pfizer's Comirnaty COVID-19 vaccine for ages 16 and up—more than 800 days after the agency approved the shot.
The documents are "finally in the hands of the public, where they belong," the Informed Consent Action Network said in a press release. "Now, independent scientists and researchers can see everything FDA saw when it made its decision that this vaccine was 'safe and effective.'"
The recent documents disclosed as part of a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit against the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) show the agency knew its safety monitoring system was "not sufficient" for assessing the risk of heart conditions associated with Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine when it licensed the company's "Comirnaty" vaccine.
Pfizer is scum, DKG.
for that reason, I didn't vaxx with them.
Quote from: JOE on December 17, 2023, 10:20:37 PMPfizer is scum, DKG.
for that reason, I didn't vaxx with them.
Good for you.
Quote from: Herman on December 17, 2023, 10:13:13 PMThe owner of this forum had COVID and he aint vaccinated. You said if you get COVID and you aint vaccinated, you die. That was your Rachel Maddow moment.
I didn't even go to the hospital.
Quote from: caskur on December 17, 2023, 10:11:13 PMMy vaccinated 77 year old obese stepfather, 2 aunties 75, 83 and twin brother, and 77 year old neighbour have been vaccinated multiple times and never caught covid nor suffered ill affects from the jab and quite frankly everybody's paranoia is quite mind boggling to me.
Just keep your miseries to yourselves... you are hypocrites that got vaccinated and lucky to survive a VERY painful virus.
Shuddup already.
My wife, mom, and step dad all got multi vaxed AND got covid.
Just about everybody who catches COVID in Canada has had at least two doses of one of the placebo vaccines.
Quote from: caskur on December 17, 2023, 10:11:13 PMMy vaccinated 77 year old obese stepfather, 2 aunties 75, 83 and twin brother, and 77 year old neighbour have been vaccinated multiple times and never caught covid nor suffered ill affects from the jab and quite frankly everybody's paranoia is quite mind boggling to me.
Just keep your miseries to yourselves... you are hypocrites that got vaccinated and lucky to survive a VERY painful virus.
Shuddup already.
However, there is another side to that story too, caskur.
There is a danger of overvaxxing as well.
And too many shots can weaken the immune system.
This was an actual warning from health agencies such as the FDA in the US, altho they later contradicted themselves but advocating additional doses. I guess they gave into pressure from Pig Pharma and the payoffs were simply too great to resist.
I never went beyond 2 mRNA doses & spaced them quite far apart.
I thought that the recommended intervals in between the doses was too short because the body needs time to absorb them and adjust.
I stopped at 2 mRNA does because the side effects were too severe & I was concerned that additional doses might damage the body.
We were all initially informed that 2 was the absolute maximum. But then the authorities changed their minds and kept recommending booster shots.
Quote from: DKG on December 18, 2023, 11:55:12 AMJust about everybody who catches COVID in Canada has had at least two doses of one of the placebo vaccines.
I never caught COVID but I cross vaccinated with other conventional vaccines too. People who came down with COVID were also getting pneumonia, shingles, meningitis even polio symptoms. So COVID was clearly a virus made in a lab. Likewise a person doesn't stub their toe and the next day, suddenly gets lung cancer.
I would even go so far to suggest that COVID is a bioweapon which was developed for germ warfare. I believe China has large bioweapons program & they will be ready to launch the next pandemic should its enemies get too close to the underbelly of the Dragon.
Xi jin Ping murdered millions with this virus.
Quote from: JOE on December 18, 2023, 11:59:48 AMHowever, there is another side to that story too, caskur.
There is a danger of overvaxxing as well.
And too many shots can weaken the immune system.
This was an actual warning from health agencies such as the FDA in the US, altho they later contradicted themselves but advocating additional doses. I guess they gave into pressure from Pig Pharma and the payoffs were simply too great to resist.
I never went beyond 2 mRNA doses & spaced them quite far apart.
I thought that the recommended intervals in between the doses was too short because the body needs time to absorb them and adjust.
I stopped at 2 mRNA does because the side effects were too severe & I was concerned that additional doses might damage the body.
We were all initially informed that 2 was the absolute maximum. But then the authorities changed their minds and kept recommending booster shots.
Over servicing is a problem. They did it to our pets years ago giving them shots every year for cat and dog flu.
I agree with what you have done because I virtually done the same thing... I feel protected from the two shots and a bout of the virus itself.
The problem is that the virus has mutated many times so when is a good time to get the updated shots?
The other flaw in this whole treatment regime is indeed they keep changing their approach which makes me suspicious.
I agree, they are full of shit.
I do not believe vaccines, change the body.
I believe the disease changes the body to the bodies detriment. For example... if you think a useless vaccine gives you heart problems, what will the actual disease do to you?
They best thing you did was step back and take a good look at the issue and that is all that should be asked of any of us.
Quote from: JOE on December 18, 2023, 12:07:53 PMI never caught COVID but I cross vaccinated with other conventional vaccines too. People who came down with COVID were also getting pneumonia, shingles, meningitis even polio symptoms. So COVID was clearly a virus made in a lab. Likewise a person doesn't stub their toe and the next day, suddenly gets lung cancer.
I would even go so far to suggest that COVID is a bioweapon which was developed for germ warfare. I believe China has large bioweapons program & they will be ready to launch the next pandemic should its enemies get too close to the underbelly of the Dragon.
Xi jin Ping murdered millions with this virus.
I am pretty sure man cannot create a new virus. He does not have the ability to do that, so I'm informed but they were experimenting with the covid virus and it escaped quarantine.
Quote from: Herman on December 17, 2023, 09:32:41 PMYesterday, I fell off the tractor and broke two ribs when I was cleaning the windows. Ya, I had a few thimbles of barrel wash.
Oh my Herman.....I know cracked ribs are very painful.
I've lost a lot of enthusiasm for the COVID vaccines that are available..
I don't personally know anybody who isn't vaccinated, but most people I know caught COVID..
I don't regret getting vaccinated though......it only took a few minutes of my time.
Quote from: caskur on December 18, 2023, 01:07:47 PMI am pretty sure man cannot create a new virus. He does not have the ability to do that, so I'm informed but they were experimenting with the covid virus and it escaped quarantine.
New viruses have been created. As I understand, they even use virus husks and fill them with new genetic material and the virus passes this new genetic material into the target hosts cells. Think genetic modification.
Quote from: formosan on December 18, 2023, 01:26:50 PMI've lost a lot of enthusiasm for the COVID vaccines that are available..
I don't personally know anybody who isn't vaccinated, but most people I know caught COVID..
I don't regret getting vaccinated though......it only took a few minutes of my time.
We all had to get vaccinated at CP and nearly all of us caught COVID.
Quote from: Brent on December 18, 2023, 02:47:20 PMWe all had to get vaccinated at CP and nearly all of us caught COVID.
My employees are all vaccinated and most of them caught the virus.
Quote from: Lokmar on December 18, 2023, 01:27:55 PMNew viruses have been created. As I understand, they even use virus husks and fill them with new genetic material and the virus passes this new genetic material into the target hosts cells. Think genetic modification.
And I have read men cannot make new viruses....
I have also read men CAN make new viruses.
I am leaning towards altering virus but if they do the virus wouldn't be stronger than the original I'll wagerl.
MUTATIONS in animals and us are weaknesses and deformities not strengths.
But does that mean simple cells can mutate and strengthen? We already know they naturally mutate.
I don't know enough about this subject to be definative. It looks like you need a university qualification to discuss itp.
We do know virus mutate on their own but does it make them stronger or weaker? Maybe both depending on the variety.
Science is FULL of fraud and fiction.
The man who told me viruses cannot be man-made was a scientist from CSIRO.
Quote from: Brent on December 18, 2023, 02:47:20 PMWe all had to get vaccinated at CP and nearly all of us caught COVID.
Most of the folks catching COVID now have had multiple jabs like the old lady and I.
Quote from: caskur on December 18, 2023, 09:10:43 PMAnd I have read men cannot make new viruses....
I have also read men CAN make new viruses.
I am leaning towards altering virus but if they do the virus wouldn't be stronger than the original I'll wagerl.
MUTATIONS in animals and us are weaknesses and deformities not strengths.
But does that mean simple cells can mutate and strengthen? We already know they naturally mutate.
I don't know enough about this subject to be definative. It looks like you need a university qualification to discuss itp.
We do know virus mutate on their own but does it make them stronger or weaker? Maybe both depending on the variety.
Science is FULL of fraud and fiction.
The man who told me viruses cannot be man-made was a scientist from CSIRO.
Here is a link to what I'll call thereputic use of gene alteration in a virus:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8780015/
I'd wager they'd be able to make one that could exterminate a shitload of people too!
Quote from: Lokmar on December 18, 2023, 09:30:33 PMHere is a link to what I'll call thereputic use of gene alteration in a virus:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8780015/
I'd wager they'd be able to make one that could exterminate a shitload of people too!
I will read that link after breakfast but the second half of your post is just science fiction and this is what I mean and remain sceptical.
After a university degree is the start of a person's science journey.
Quote from: Lokmar on December 18, 2023, 09:30:33 PMHere is a link to what I'll call thereputic use of gene alteration in a virus:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8780015/
I'd wager they'd be able to make one that could exterminate a shitload of people too!
It's all science fiction... and dangerous... from your link...
Vvv
"However, gene therapy experienced a major setback in late 1990s following the death of a patient due to immune responses caused by the viral vector in a trial in 1999 and the development of viral vector‐induced leukemia in four patients after receiving a retrovirus‐based gene therapy in another trial in 2000. 9 These two events brought gene therapy to a temporary halt in the clinic, raised concerns about its safety, and highlighted the critical need for safer viral vectors."
They don't know what they are doing.... and we are just Guinea pigs and lab rats but to wipe us humans out on a grand scale with gene therapy is a stretch of the imagination.
Good movie idea I guess.
Human modification on virus would weaken them.
Covid has been around forever apparently and Sars 2 escaped the lab in China but not modified by scientist but rather as itself. That is my opinion. They were playing with it.. but they didn't MAKE it.
Quote from: caskur on December 18, 2023, 10:20:03 PMIt's all science fiction... and dangerous... from your link...
Vvv
"However, gene therapy experienced a major setback in late 1990s following the death of a patient due to immune responses caused by the viral vector in a trial in 1999 and the development of viral vector‐induced leukemia in four patients after receiving a retrovirus‐based gene therapy in another trial in 2000. 9 These two events brought gene therapy to a temporary halt in the clinic, raised concerns about its safety, and highlighted the critical need for safer viral vectors."
They don't know what they are doing.... and we are just Guinea pigs and lab rats but to wipe us humans out on a grand scale with gene therapy is a stretch of the imagination.
Good movie idea I guess.
Human modification on virus would weaken them.
Covid has been around forever apparently and Sars 2 escaped the lab in China but not modified by scientist but rather as itself. That is my opinion. They were playing with it.. but they didn't MAKE it.
The evidence all points to a weaponized virus. Virus' tend to get weaker on their own in the wild, opting for more replication and spreading rather than fatality. COVID-19 has done that very thing as predicted. The only question to me is was it done intentionally or accidentally. With how bad the chanks hated Trump, I believe it was intentional.
Quote from: Lokmar on December 19, 2023, 12:02:36 AMThe evidence all points to a weaponized virus. Virus' tend to get weaker on their own in the wild, opting for more replication and spreading rather than fatality. COVID-19 has done that very thing as predicted. The only question to me is was it done intentionally or accidentally. With how bad the chanks hated Trump, I believe it was intentional.
If it was intentional why start it in your own country?
That doesn't make sense
Quote from: caskur on December 19, 2023, 12:14:20 AMIf it was intentional why start it in your own country?
That doesn't make sense
I believe it does. The chanks DGAF about their own people. They literally murdered 100 MILLION of them last century!!! Thats a verifiable fact. But that isnt what the important part of this anyway.
The US is prevented from bio weapon experimentation here on US soil and we've shut down all of our programs to an absolute bare minimum. We have invested heavily in off shore co-ops. It is also an indisputable fact that the Wuhan Lab operated partially off US funding through an agency which Fauchi was part of. Again, we know that for a fact because Congress traced the payments.
The Wuhan lab has a bioweapons program. Now it could be that the chanks are so fucking lapse in their security and safety protocals that the virus accidentally escaped. Its possible. However, the odds go down when you consider all the grief Trump was causing the chanks. There's absolutely no damned way that some pangolin got bit by a bat and then a chank ate the pangolin and viola!, COVID-19. Thats some serious sci-fi.
The only thing we dont know for sure is did the chanks say fuck all to their own people and release it intentionally or was it coincidental that it was released in time to fuck the US during election season.
God help us if ever another one gets released.
No one is going to tolerate another lock down.
*disclosure.... lockdown borders worked for us but the suffering on the opposite side of my country was draconian.
Damn, broken ribs are painful. Give me COVID anyday over this.
I remember when Boris told the world he nearly died and if it wasn't for the NZ NURSE and another one, he would have.
Quote from: Herman on December 19, 2023, 12:38:22 AMDamn, broken ribs are painful. Give me COVID anyday over this.
Yeah because the nasty painful lingering edge was taken off because YOU WERE JABBED.... are you taking anti virals as well?
Quote from: caskur on December 19, 2023, 12:41:04 AMYeah because the nasty painful lingering edge was taken off because YOU WERE JABBED.... are you taking anti virals as well?
At least you were finally forced to admit they aint vaccines at all because they do even come close to preventing transmission. So, now you claim they are expensive treatments, even though Ivermectin, and Zip packs are cheaper and work better to reduce symptoms.
Caskur, do you know who Albert Bourla is? I will tell you, he is the CEO of Pfizer. In 2022, he admitted his company's "two-dose vaccine offered limited or no protection against COVID-19." Not as as vaccine or a treatment.
Big pharma is super powerful, so they made sure his honest admission was scrubbed. But, I remember it and he was right of course.
Quote from: formosan on December 18, 2023, 01:26:50 PMI don't personally know anybody who isn't vaccinated, but most people I know caught COVID..
Now ya do, Im still a Pureblood :yeahhh:
Quote from: Herman on December 19, 2023, 01:16:25 AMCaskur, do you know who Albert Bourla is? I will tell you, he is the CEO of Pfizer. In 2022, he admitted his company's "two-dose vaccine offered limited or no protection against COVID-19." Not as as vaccine or a treatment.
Big pharma is super powerful, so they made sure his honest admission was scrubbed. But, I remember it and he was right of course.
Well nope, never heard of Albert Bourla.
DID this Albert Bourla actually say it with his own lips or was it in an article?
They have been working on curing virus infections since AIDS became a HUGE problem. THE ANTIVIRALS keep AIDS PATIENTS ALIVE.
They have been working on virus infections wayyy before AIDS.
Science on virus have come along way.
They aren't there yet though.
Quote from: Blazor on December 19, 2023, 01:26:44 AMNow ya do, Im still a Pureblood :yeahhh:
Not if you smoke and drink... alcohol is a poison that causes cancer.
Have you seen our ads?
https://youtu.be/khZM0JBeNOI?si=Ql_28Nwsm8WFlICp
Quote from: Herman on December 19, 2023, 01:16:25 AMCaskur, do you know who Albert Bourla is? I will tell you, he is the CEO of Pfizer. In 2022, he admitted his company's "two-dose vaccine offered limited or no protection against COVID-19." Not as as vaccine or a treatment.
Big pharma is super powerful, so they made sure his honest admission was scrubbed. But, I remember it and he was right of course.
Yeah, I sent Pfizer a nasty email during the pandemic and told them their CEO was a greedy pig.
He profited heavily from the Pandemic, but kept himself safe while many health care workers put their lives on the line and many got sick or even died from COVID.
Lined his pockets.
Greedy Man whose company threatened & blackmailed entire nations if they didnt sign on to Pfizer.
Quote from: JOE on December 19, 2023, 02:19:08 AMHe profited heavily from the Pandemic, but kept himself safe while many health care workers put their lives on the line and many got sick or even died from COVID.
Yeah but according to slow learners here it's only a cold and those doctors and nurses who died from it are figments of our imagination.
Those early days before we got vaccines killed doctors and nurses and that was tragic...
There were medical people dying and leaving kids orphans.
Quote from: Herman on December 19, 2023, 01:16:25 AMCaskur, do you know who Albert Bourla is? I will tell you, he is the CEO of Pfizer. In 2022, he admitted his company's "two-dose vaccine offered limited or no protection against COVID-19." Not as as vaccine or a treatment.
Big pharma is super powerful, so they made sure his honest admission was scrubbed. But, I remember it and he was right of course.
Shareholders, governments, and the msm spun his candor quick after that slip of the tongue.
Everybody who works at or is employed by senior's care facilities around here has had multiple jabs. Yet, they keep antivirals like Remdesivir and Paxlovid on hand when there is a Covid outbreak.
Mr Bourla is indeed correct, they do not even work as treatments let alone vaccines. It's little wonder that so few Canadians want anymore boosters. Fool us once, shame on you, fool us thirty five times, shame on us.
Quote from: caskur on December 19, 2023, 02:07:09 AMNot if you smoke and drink... alcohol is a poison that causes cancer.
I dont smoke cigs. Guilty on alcohol. But my survival rate is way higher drinking alcohol than getting a death jab lol.
Quote from: Blazor on December 19, 2023, 01:32:21 PMI dont smoke cigs. Guilty on alcohol. But my survival rate is way higher drinking alcohol than getting a death jab lol.
Gawd, what waste of money the rona jabs were/are.
Quote from: JOE on December 18, 2023, 12:07:53 PMI never caught COVID but I cross vaccinated with other conventional vaccines too. People who came down with COVID were also getting pneumonia, shingles, meningitis even polio symptoms. So COVID was clearly a virus made in a lab. Likewise a person doesn't stub their toe and the next day, suddenly gets lung cancer.
I would even go so far to suggest that COVID is a bioweapon which was developed for germ warfare. I believe China has large bioweapons program & they will be ready to launch the next pandemic should its enemies get too close to the underbelly of the Dragon.
Xi jin Ping murdered millions with this virus.
Two words-COW EXCREMNT!!
This lying, corrupt white mad scientist illegally financed and oversaw the grotesque gain-of-function research that created the coronavirus. Like most murderers, he has no conscience and his ghoulish "scientific research" was protected for decades by the deep state in the US.
(https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.ZkgKBKLP8XK3pe3doulEFgHaEc&pid=Api&P=0&h=180)
Quote from: Shen Li on December 19, 2023, 01:45:34 PMGawd, what waste of money the rona jabs were/are.
To me, the money was less a factor than all the division that was caused.
Quote from: Blazor on December 20, 2023, 03:42:06 AMTo me, the money was less a factor than all the division that was caused.
And the ongoing illness and death..
Quote from: Brent on December 18, 2023, 02:47:20 PMWe all had to get vaccinated at CP and nearly all of us caught COVID.
It was like that with provincial government employees even though those that could, worked remotely.