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Title: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Anonymous on August 30, 2014, 05:37:33 PM
http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/union-wages-benefit-calgary-1941785.htm

CLC report says belonging to a union benefits workers, communities



OTTAWA, ONTARIO--(Marketwired - Aug. 27, 2014) - Researchers at the Canadian Labour Congress have found that being in a union is especially important for women and younger workers, and that benefits everyone in the community, says Hassan Yussuff, president of the Canadian Labour Congress.



"In Alberta, women who belong to a union earn an average of $7.80 an hour more than do women in non-unionized workplaces, and young workers in the province aged 15 to 29 earn an additional $5.35 an hour if they belong to a union," says Yussuff.



CLC researchers surveyed wages in 76 Canadian metropolitan and other census areas. They discovered that overall in Alberta unionized workers earn an average of $4.75 an hour more than their non-union counterparts, which puts an extra $493.54 million a week into the provincial economy. "We are proud of the contributions our members have made to build a stronger middle class and a more secure economy for everyone who lives here," says Yussuff.



The CLC researchers also found that centres with more union members support a richer mix of businesses and services. "Union members spend their pay cheques close to home and that helps local businesses, Yussuff says. "We bolster the tax base which also supports public works, community services and charities."



Most Canadians, Yussuff says, believe that unions have a positive role to play in society. "People do want unions to advocate for minimum wages, overtime pay, workplace safety standards, parental leaves, vacation pay and protection from discrimination and harassment. Many benefits first gained at the bargaining table are now enjoyed by all workers, whether or not they belong to a union."



But Yussuff says labour advocacy goes beyond strictly workplace issues. "We push elected officials at all levels to provide a broad range of family-supporting public programs and services. For example, every Canadian should have a decent pension to retire on and that's why we are working to convince governments to improve Canada Pension Plan benefits. We do this in the interest of creating fairness and when we succeed we raise the bar for everyone."



The Canadian Labour Congress, the national voice of the labour movement, represents 3.3 million Canadian workers. The CLC brings together Canada's national and international unions along with the provincial and territorial federations of labour and 111 district labour councils
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Anonymous on August 30, 2014, 07:28:13 PM
^I blame RW for this. See what you have done RW? She was a perfectly fine Chink until you brainwashed her. I hope ur fucking satisfied. ;)  :lol:
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Obvious Li on August 30, 2014, 10:47:02 PM
well the sad part is that this CLC bullshit statement is true...of course if you pay people lots more money they will have more to spend....what they don't address is whose money is it, where does it come from and who asked me if it was ok to use my money to overpay some useless govt. worker.....i guess they know the answer to that question already.......part of CLC's and other socialist assholes agenda of brainwashing the innocents
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Anonymous on August 31, 2014, 09:39:53 AM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"well the sad part is that this CLC bullshit statement is true...of course if you pay people lots more money they will have more to spend....what they don't address is whose money is it, where does it come from and who asked me if it was ok to use my money to overpay some useless govt. worker.....i guess they know the answer to that question already.......part of CLC's and other socialist assholes agenda of brainwashing the innocents

As long as someone else pays, it's not a problem. Other people have lots of money to spare.
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: RW on August 31, 2014, 02:54:03 PM
It's greedy oil money.  Get as much of it as you can so once the resourcing raping is done, you'll have a car or a boat to show for it.
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Anonymous on August 31, 2014, 02:58:51 PM
Quote from: "Real Woman"It's greedy oil money.  Get as much of it as you can so once the resourcing raping is done, you'll have a car or a boat to show for it.

Whatever you say Vesna, whatever you say. :)



BTW, I still blame you for corrupting the morals of what was once a perfectly good Chink.
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2014, 05:18:34 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/union-wages-benefit-calgary-1941785.htm

CLC report says belonging to a union benefits workers, communities



OTTAWA, ONTARIO--(Marketwired - Aug. 27, 2014) - Researchers at the Canadian Labour Congress have found that being in a union is especially important for women and younger workers, and that benefits everyone in the community, says Hassan Yussuff, president of the Canadian Labour Congress.



"In Alberta, women who belong to a union earn an average of $7.80 an hour more than do women in non-unionized workplaces, and young workers in the province aged 15 to 29 earn an additional $5.35 an hour if they belong to a union," says Yussuff.



CLC researchers surveyed wages in 76 Canadian metropolitan and other census areas. They discovered that overall in Alberta unionized workers earn an average of $4.75 an hour more than their non-union counterparts, which puts an extra $493.54 million a week into the provincial economy. "We are proud of the contributions our members have made to build a stronger middle class and a more secure economy for everyone who lives here," says Yussuff.



The CLC researchers also found that centres with more union members support a richer mix of businesses and services. "Union members spend their pay cheques close to home and that helps local businesses, Yussuff says. "We bolster the tax base which also supports public works, community services and charities."



Most Canadians, Yussuff says, believe that unions have a positive role to play in society. "People do want unions to advocate for minimum wages, overtime pay, workplace safety standards, parental leaves, vacation pay and protection from discrimination and harassment. Many benefits first gained at the bargaining table are now enjoyed by all workers, whether or not they belong to a union."



But Yussuff says labour advocacy goes beyond strictly workplace issues. "We push elected officials at all levels to provide a broad range of family-supporting public programs and services. For example, every Canadian should have a decent pension to retire on and that's why we are working to convince governments to improve Canada Pension Plan benefits. We do this in the interest of creating fairness and when we succeed we raise the bar for everyone."



The Canadian Labour Congress, the national voice of the labour movement, represents 3.3 million Canadian workers. The CLC brings together Canada's national and international unions along with the provincial and territorial federations of labour and 111 district labour councils

Today is Labour Day, I almost forgot what the holiday is. Tomorrow the kids go back to school I believe.



I support the rights of workers to organize and collectively bargain for a share of the profits they created. Labour should accept nothing less than the safest and most eco-friendly working conditions that are currently available. My hat is off to all of you. Canada is a better place because of you.
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2014, 05:19:57 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"well the sad part is that this CLC bullshit statement is true...of course if you pay people lots more money they will have more to spend....what they don't address is whose money is it, where does it come from and who asked me if it was ok to use my money to overpay some useless govt. worker.....i guess they know the answer to that question already.......part of CLC's and other socialist assholes agenda of brainwashing the innocents

Public sector unions are a different story. They are not in the public's best interest.
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2014, 06:31:09 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"well the sad part is that this CLC bullshit statement is true...of course if you pay people lots more money they will have more to spend....what they don't address is whose money is it, where does it come from and who asked me if it was ok to use my money to overpay some useless govt. worker.....i guess they know the answer to that question already.......part of CLC's and other socialist assholes agenda of brainwashing the innocents

  :roll:
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2014, 06:38:29 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Real Woman"It's greedy oil money.  Get as much of it as you can so once the resourcing raping is done, you'll have a car or a boat to show for it.

Whatever you say Vesna, whatever you say. :)



BTW, I still blame you for corrupting the morals of what was once a perfectly good Chink.

Shen Li, please do not refer to me with that disgusting word again please.
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Big Wave Dave on September 02, 2014, 05:14:40 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Real Woman"It's greedy oil money.  Get as much of it as you can so once the resourcing raping is done, you'll have a car or a boat to show for it.

Whatever you say Vesna, whatever you say. :)



BTW, I still blame you for corrupting the morals of what was once a perfectly good Chink.

Shen Li, please do not refer to me with that disgusting word again please.

Take it easy dollface. Anyone can see no malicious intent was involved.
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Obvious Li on September 02, 2014, 06:19:17 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"well the sad part is that this CLC bullshit statement is true...of course if you pay people lots more money they will have more to spend....what they don't address is whose money is it, where does it come from and who asked me if it was ok to use my money to overpay some useless govt. worker.....i guess they know the answer to that question already.......part of CLC's and other socialist assholes agenda of brainwashing the innocents

  :roll:




rolling your eyes at me.....shame on you..... :shock:  :twisted:
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2014, 08:27:34 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"well the sad part is that this CLC bullshit statement is true...of course if you pay people lots more money they will have more to spend....what they don't address is whose money is it, where does it come from and who asked me if it was ok to use my money to overpay some useless govt. worker.....i guess they know the answer to that question already.......part of CLC's and other socialist assholes agenda of brainwashing the innocents

  :roll:




rolling your eyes at me.....shame on you..... :shock:  :twisted:

Yes, I agree handsome. She should be truly ashamed.
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2014, 09:08:39 AM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"well the sad part is that this CLC bullshit statement is true...of course if you pay people lots more money they will have more to spend....what they don't address is whose money is it, where does it come from and who asked me if it was ok to use my money to overpay some useless govt. worker.....i guess they know the answer to that question already.......part of CLC's and other socialist assholes agenda of brainwashing the innocents

  :roll:




rolling your eyes at me.....shame on you..... :shock:  :twisted:

I am sorry Obvious Li, but I am not sorry I like my job.
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Chickenfeets on September 03, 2014, 03:48:20 PM
And it's not a "useless" job, either, Fash.



You matter.
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Obvious Li on September 04, 2014, 06:32:07 AM
Quote from: "Chickenfeets"And it's not a "useless" job, either, Fash.



You matter.






all govt. work ..by definition..is useless......not blaming Fash...she is probably very good at what she does......the question is ...do we need that position filled by someone paid using public money.....i say hell no
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Anonymous on September 04, 2014, 08:26:40 AM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Chickenfeets"And it's not a "useless" job, either, Fash.



You matter.






all govt. work ..by definition..is useless......not blaming Fash...she is probably very good at what she does......the question is ...do we need that position filled by someone paid using public money.....i say hell no

There are days I stay past my regular seven and a half hours because I have too many tasks to complete..



If my job is so useless than who is going to do my work if my position was terminated?
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Obvious Li on September 04, 2014, 09:21:21 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Chickenfeets"And it's not a "useless" job, either, Fash.



You matter.






all govt. work ..by definition..is useless......not blaming Fash...she is probably very good at what she does......the question is ...do we need that position filled by someone paid using public money.....i say hell no

There are days I stay past my regular seven and a half hours because I have too many tasks to complete..



If my job is so useless than who is going to do my work if my position was terminated?


the correct answer is........nobody....govt. jobs were created by busybodies who want to increase the size of their kingdom within govt........those departments, positions and tasks should all be eliminated...they are unnecessry
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Romero on September 04, 2014, 10:31:22 PM
i say eliminate EI first.....the commie conservative government spends 20 billion a year taken from people who arent too lazy to work.....any hippy too lazy to work should be stripped of citizenship and shipped off to north korea
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Chickenfeets on September 04, 2014, 10:55:55 PM
Romero, you've changed. ;-)
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Anonymous on September 05, 2014, 12:45:37 AM
Quote from: "Romero"i say eliminate EI first.....the commie conservative government spends 20 billion a year taken from people who arent too lazy to work.....any hippy too lazy to work should be stripped of citizenship and shipped off to north korea

You are speaking my language here Romero. However, I would be happy to simply to turn it into a REAL insurance program. Higher premiums for repeated users and next to nothing for people like myself who will never use it. Our so-called "conservative" government hasn't got the balls to make a real conservative change though.
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Obvious Li on September 05, 2014, 03:47:40 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Romero"i say eliminate EI first.....the commie conservative government spends 20 billion a year taken from people who arent too lazy to work.....any hippy too lazy to work should be stripped of citizenship and shipped off to north korea

You are speaking my language here Romero. However, I would be happy to simply to turn it into a REAL insurance program. Higher premiums for repeated users and next to nothing for people like myself who will never use it. Our so-called "conservative" government hasn't got the balls to make a real conservative change though.




agree with both of you....why the federal govt. is involved in an insurance program in which no govt. money is at stake is beyond me.....except of course we know they steal untold billions each year to fund other useless govt. programs.....funds which should be left in the plan to increase payment to legitimate claimants like me......it is the one program that does what it is intended to do.

and yes all govt. employees and wasters of tax payers money should be shipped to north korea..perfect solution
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Obvious Li on September 05, 2014, 03:49:41 AM
Quote from: "Chickenfeets"Romero, you've changed. ;-)






no...he has always been an asshole....... :lol:
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Anonymous on September 05, 2014, 09:46:49 AM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"agree with both of you....why the federal govt. is involved in an insurance program in which no govt. money is at stake is beyond me.....except of course we know they steal untold billions each year to fund other useless govt. programs.....funds which should be left in the plan to increase payment to legitimate claimants like me......it is the one program that does what it is intended to do.

and yes all govt. employees and wasters of tax payers money should be shipped to north korea..perfect solution

I could end government largesse, eliminate the debt and drastically reduce the size of all government departments by making voting a privilege, not a right. It is absolutely immoral that government takes money from people like you and I to bribe sleazebags who never contribute. Replace universal voting and the pandering train screeches to a halt.
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Romero on September 05, 2014, 02:22:50 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"funds which should be left in the plan to increase payment to legitimate claimants like me......it is the one program that does what it is intended to do.

Of course you conveniently have no problem with a government program that pays you to sit on your ass. You are not a legitimate claimant. You're supposed to be looking for and getting work. EI is a safety net for ensuring people have food and shelter between jobs.



It is not a paid vacation.



I'd think you'd have a little more respect for the very workers who are paying you to sit on your ass and bitch about them.
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Anonymous on September 05, 2014, 02:30:59 PM
Quote from: "Chickenfeets"And it's not a "useless" job, either, Fash.



You matter.

It probably is a necessary job, but should it be unionized? It only seems fair that workers in the private sector should be allowed to collectively bargain for a share of the profits they created. That isn't the case with the private sector. You have workers demanding more and a government that is frightened of public sector union power at the table. Their is nobody at the table to represent the people who must pay for any additional costs? This is just one reason why the public sector should not be allowed to collectively bargain.
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Anonymous on September 05, 2014, 05:29:35 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Romero"i say eliminate EI first.....the commie conservative government spends 20 billion a year taken from people who arent too lazy to work.....any hippy too lazy to work should be stripped of citizenship and shipped off to north korea

You are speaking my language here Romero. However, I would be happy to simply to turn it into a REAL insurance program. Higher premiums for repeated users and next to nothing for people like myself who will never use it. Our so-called "conservative" government hasn't got the balls to make a real conservative change though.




agree with both of you....why the federal govt. is involved in an insurance program in which no govt. money is at stake is beyond me.....except of course we know they steal untold billions each year to fund other useless govt. programs.....funds which should be left in the plan to increase payment to legitimate claimants like me......it is the one program that does what it is intended to do.

and yes all govt. employees and wasters of tax payers money should be shipped to north korea..perfect solution

I was on EI after both of my children were born Obvious Li..



How many times have you received EI benefits?
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Obvious Li on September 05, 2014, 06:29:07 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
You are speaking my language here Romero. However, I would be happy to simply to turn it into a REAL insurance program. Higher premiums for repeated users and next to nothing for people like myself who will never use it. Our so-called "conservative" government hasn't got the balls to make a real conservative change though.




agree with both of you....why the federal govt. is involved in an insurance program in which no govt. money is at stake is beyond me.....except of course we know they steal untold billions each year to fund other useless govt. programs.....funds which should be left in the plan to increase payment to legitimate claimants like me......it is the one program that does what it is intended to do.

and yes all govt. employees and wasters of tax payers money should be shipped to north korea..perfect solution

I was on EI after both of my children were born Obvious Li..



How many times have you received EI benefits?

started when i took this job......laid off every october....back to work in may.....can't wait to apply for this years pogey immediately after the october thanksgiving weekend...yippee ki yi yay....using my insurance monies to play poker at the casino all winter...does it get any better than this i ask....God i love this country........and thank you Pierre Elliot Trudeau
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Obvious Li on September 05, 2014, 06:40:54 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"funds which should be left in the plan to increase payment to legitimate claimants like me......it is the one program that does what it is intended to do.

Of course you conveniently have no problem with a government program that pays you to sit on your ass. You are not a legitimate claimant. You're supposed to be looking for and getting work. EI is a safety net for ensuring people have food and shelter between jobs.



It is not a paid vacation.



I'd think you'd have a little more respect for the very workers who are paying you to sit on your ass and bitch about them.




sorry Homy...EI is a non-govt. insurance program funded by employers and employees...i pay my premiums every pay period and collect when the greedy corporation i work for lays me off every fall.....some east indian guy came by from the main EI office last winter and told me i had to take a job in the city over 100 kilometers away...i told him i would be happy to go to work there if he found me  transportation back and forth (the bus only runs from here to the city two times a week)...he left and i never heard from him again.....i don't suspect i will have any problems this winter...i've figured out a way to leave the country and bypass there reporting requirements so i think we will spend a lot of time in vegas this winter and use my EI to bankroll my table stakes.....did i mention i love this country
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Anonymous on September 05, 2014, 06:47:29 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"




agree with both of you....why the federal govt. is involved in an insurance program in which no govt. money is at stake is beyond me.....except of course we know they steal untold billions each year to fund other useless govt. programs.....funds which should be left in the plan to increase payment to legitimate claimants like me......it is the one program that does what it is intended to do.

and yes all govt. employees and wasters of tax payers money should be shipped to north korea..perfect solution

I was on EI after both of my children were born Obvious Li..



How many times have you received EI benefits?

started when i took this job......laid off every october....back to work in may.....can't wait to apply for this years pogey immediately after the october thanksgiving weekend...yippee ki yi yay....using my insurance monies to play poker at the casino all winter...does it get any better than this i ask....God i love this country........and thank you Pierre Elliot Trudeau

I don't want to stop working unless it is necessary Obvious Li..



I hope I am not being too judgemental?
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Romero on September 05, 2014, 08:38:26 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"i pay my premiums every pay period and collect when the greedy corporation i work for lays me off every fall

What you pay is nowhere near what you get back. EI premiums are less than 2% of salary. That nowhere near equals months of benefits.



People who are actually working and their employers have to pay for the rest. This includes government employees and their employers(taxpayers).



Saying you pay for your benefits is like someone burning their house down every year and saying they pay for fire insurance.


QuoteWhile you are receiving EI benefits, you are responsible for:



-looking for a job and being prepared to take available work;

-advising us if you cannot look for or accept a job because you are sick, pregnant, caring for your newborn or newly adopted child, or caring for a gravely ill family member;

-declaring all actual or expected gross earnings, including self-employment earnings or earnings you will receive later;

-informing us when you do any unpaid work (for example, volunteer work);

-providing accurate and complete information to us; and

reporting all absences from Canada , including when you leave the country for a vacation.



If you knowingly withhold information or misrepresent the facts to make a false claim, you are committing fraud. In this case, you may be penalized or prosecuted. In addition, your employer or any third party who helps you commit fraud may also be penalized or prosecuted when we detect the fraudulent activity.



//http://www.servicecanada.gc.ca/eng/ei/fraud/fraud_serious.shtml
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Obvious Li on September 06, 2014, 06:19:27 AM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"i pay my premiums every pay period and collect when the greedy corporation i work for lays me off every fall

What you pay is nowhere near what you get back. EI premiums are less than 2% of salary. That nowhere near equals months of benefits.



People who are actually working and their employers have to pay for the rest. This includes government employees and their employers(taxpayers).



Saying you pay for your benefits is like someone burning their house down every year and saying they pay for fire insurance.


QuoteWhile you are receiving EI benefits, you are responsible for:



-looking for a job and being prepared to take available work;

-advising us if you cannot look for or accept a job because you are sick, pregnant, caring for your newborn or newly adopted child, or caring for a gravely ill family member;

-declaring all actual or expected gross earnings, including self-employment earnings or earnings you will receive later;

-informing us when you do any unpaid work (for example, volunteer work);

-providing accurate and complete information to us; and

reporting all absences from Canada , including when you leave the country for a vacation.



If you knowingly withhold information or misrepresent the facts to make a false claim, you are committing fraud. In this case, you may be penalized or prosecuted. In addition, your employer or any third party who helps you commit fraud may also be penalized or prosecuted when we detect the fraudulent activity.



//http://www.servicecanada.gc.ca/eng/ei/fraud/fraud_serious.shtml




some pretty harsh conditions homy......thankfully you can fill out the questions online.....takes about 20 seconds and then you are good to go.....lying to a criminal enterprise like govt. is every taxpayers duty and responsibility....we have a voluntary arrangement with our oppressors......they ask we answer.....that is the system........i follow the rules as they are given
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Anonymous on September 07, 2014, 07:37:39 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"i pay my premiums every pay period and collect when the greedy corporation i work for lays me off every fall

What you pay is nowhere near what you get back. EI premiums are less than 2% of salary. That nowhere near equals months of benefits.



People who are actually working and their employers have to pay for the rest. This includes government employees and their employers(taxpayers).



Saying you pay for your benefits is like someone burning their house down every year and saying they pay for fire insurance.


QuoteWhile you are receiving EI benefits, you are responsible for:



-looking for a job and being prepared to take available work;

-advising us if you cannot look for or accept a job because you are sick, pregnant, caring for your newborn or newly adopted child, or caring for a gravely ill family member;

-declaring all actual or expected gross earnings, including self-employment earnings or earnings you will receive later;

-informing us when you do any unpaid work (for example, volunteer work);

-providing accurate and complete information to us; and

reporting all absences from Canada , including when you leave the country for a vacation.



If you knowingly withhold information or misrepresent the facts to make a false claim, you are committing fraud. In this case, you may be penalized or prosecuted. In addition, your employer or any third party who helps you commit fraud may also be penalized or prosecuted when we detect the fraudulent activity.



//http://www.servicecanada.gc.ca/eng/ei/fraud/fraud_serious.shtml




some pretty harsh conditions homy......thankfully you can fill out the questions online.....takes about 20 seconds and then you are good to go.....lying to a criminal enterprise like govt. is every taxpayers duty and responsibility....we have a voluntary arrangement with our oppressors......they ask we answer.....that is the system........i follow the rules as they are given

Do you have to show you are looking for work on regular EI benefits Obvious Li?
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Anonymous on September 07, 2014, 10:15:56 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"i pay my premiums every pay period and collect when the greedy corporation i work for lays me off every fall

What you pay is nowhere near what you get back. EI premiums are less than 2% of salary. That nowhere near equals months of benefits.



People who are actually working and their employers have to pay for the rest. This includes government employees and their employers(taxpayers).



Saying you pay for your benefits is like someone burning their house down every year and saying they pay for fire insurance.


QuoteWhile you are receiving EI benefits, you are responsible for:



-looking for a job and being prepared to take available work;

-advising us if you cannot look for or accept a job because you are sick, pregnant, caring for your newborn or newly adopted child, or caring for a gravely ill family member;

-declaring all actual or expected gross earnings, including self-employment earnings or earnings you will receive later;

-informing us when you do any unpaid work (for example, volunteer work);

-providing accurate and complete information to us; and

reporting all absences from Canada , including when you leave the country for a vacation.



If you knowingly withhold information or misrepresent the facts to make a false claim, you are committing fraud. In this case, you may be penalized or prosecuted. In addition, your employer or any third party who helps you commit fraud may also be penalized or prosecuted when we detect the fraudulent activity.



//http://www.servicecanada.gc.ca/eng/ei/fraud/fraud_serious.shtml




some pretty harsh conditions homy......thankfully you can fill out the questions online.....takes about 20 seconds and then you are good to go.....lying to a criminal enterprise like govt. is every taxpayers duty and responsibility....we have a voluntary arrangement with our oppressors......they ask we answer.....that is the system........i follow the rules as they are given

EI doesn't pay very much though does it?
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Obvious Li on September 08, 2014, 05:17:17 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Romero"
What you pay is nowhere near what you get back. EI premiums are less than 2% of salary. That nowhere near equals months of benefits.



People who are actually working and their employers have to pay for the rest. This includes government employees and their employers(taxpayers).



Saying you pay for your benefits is like someone burning their house down every year and saying they pay for fire insurance.






some pretty harsh conditions homy......thankfully you can fill out the questions online.....takes about 20 seconds and then you are good to go.....lying to a criminal enterprise like govt. is every taxpayers duty and responsibility....we have a voluntary arrangement with our oppressors......they ask we answer.....that is the system........i follow the rules as they are given

Do you have to show you are looking for work on regular EI benefits Obvious Li?




technically you are supposed to spend your time looking for work.....but as i mentioned the system has self-reporting requirements.....when you are a little older and wiser and have been at loggerheads witht he system for decades you learn how to defeat it rather easily...that goes for all govt. departments...as soon as you challenge a govt. worker or put the onus to solve the problem on them they dissapear.....once you understand how they function it becomes rather fun watching them scurry like cockroaches when you get in their face....which you must do or they will suck out your soul.
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Obvious Li on September 08, 2014, 05:25:04 AM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Romero"
What you pay is nowhere near what you get back. EI premiums are less than 2% of salary. That nowhere near equals months of benefits.



People who are actually working and their employers have to pay for the rest. This includes government employees and their employers(taxpayers).



Saying you pay for your benefits is like someone burning their house down every year and saying they pay for fire insurance.






some pretty harsh conditions homy......thankfully you can fill out the questions online.....takes about 20 seconds and then you are good to go.....lying to a criminal enterprise like govt. is every taxpayers duty and responsibility....we have a voluntary arrangement with our oppressors......they ask we answer.....that is the system........i follow the rules as they are given

EI doesn't pay very much though does it?






EI pays around 2/3 rds. of your regular wages up to a maximum of about $550 a week (i know i'm off a bit on that number??) in any case i get around $1600/mo. in the winter and the dragon gets about $1400.......we don't really have to depend on the money so for us it is just fun money...i use mine to bankroll my winter poker playing......she spend hers in the slot machines (plus a lot more)..... so we do our bit to help the govt. waste as much as it can....this is a great country, with a well run, smooth functioning, progressive govt. bureaucracy.....cheers
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Chickenfeets on September 08, 2014, 10:03:16 AM
Last time I was on EI (for about two and a half months) was in 1986.



Are you saying I've been funding your wintertime poker jags all these years, Mr. Munday?



I don't ever want to see you call me a moocher again.  :D
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Romero on September 08, 2014, 02:51:35 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"in any case i get around $1600/mo. in the winter and the dragon gets about $1400

You're both milking EI?



I can't believe you'll criticize government workers who are actually working and contributing. They're helping to pay you two to sit on your asses and vacation in Vegas.
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Obvious Li on September 08, 2014, 08:12:17 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"in any case i get around $1600/mo. in the winter and the dragon gets about $1400

You're both milking EI?



I can't believe you'll criticize government workers who are actually working and contributing. They're helping to pay you two to sit on your asses and vacation in Vegas.






ain't it great...i love it..........milking EI....??? we are receiving payouts from an insurance claim to which we dutifully paid the appropriate premiums.....as opposed to a govt. worker who wastes taxpayers money just by existing...i know it may be a too subtle difference for you to comprehend but possibly, eventually it will sink in
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Anonymous on September 08, 2014, 08:45:37 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"




some pretty harsh conditions homy......thankfully you can fill out the questions online.....takes about 20 seconds and then you are good to go.....lying to a criminal enterprise like govt. is every taxpayers duty and responsibility....we have a voluntary arrangement with our oppressors......they ask we answer.....that is the system........i follow the rules as they are given

EI doesn't pay very much though does it?






EI pays around 2/3 rds. of your regular wages up to a maximum of about $550 a week (i know i'm off a bit on that number??) in any case i get around $1600/mo. in the winter and the dragon gets about $1400.......we don't really have to depend on the money so for us it is just fun money...i use mine to bankroll my winter poker playing......she spend hers in the slot machines (plus a lot more)..... so we do our bit to help the govt. waste as much as it can....this is a great country, with a well run, smooth functioning, progressive govt. bureaucracy.....cheers

I love ya handsome, but this rubs me the wrong fucking way. Do you think it's fair that you and I pay the same EI premiums? I never even collected that pittance after I gave birth ffs!!
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Romero on September 08, 2014, 08:48:37 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"we are receiving payouts from an insurance claim to which we dutifully paid the appropriate premiums

EI premiums are less than 2% of paid salary. It nowhere near adds up to $1,600/month for several months.
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Obvious Li on September 14, 2014, 06:09:19 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
EI doesn't pay very much though does it?






EI pays around 2/3 rds. of your regular wages up to a maximum of about $550 a week (i know i'm off a bit on that number??) in any case i get around $1600/mo. in the winter and the dragon gets about $1400.......we don't really have to depend on the money so for us it is just fun money...i use mine to bankroll my winter poker playing......she spend hers in the slot machines (plus a lot more)..... so we do our bit to help the govt. waste as much as it can....this is a great country, with a well run, smooth functioning, progressive govt. bureaucracy.....cheers

I love ya handsome, but this rubs me the wrong fucking way. Do you think it's fair that you and I pay the same EI premiums? I never even collected that pittance after I gave birth ffs!!




not my problem you don't want to use an existing insurance program....that's what it is there for...if not you...then who ????
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Obvious Li on September 14, 2014, 06:11:07 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"we are receiving payouts from an insurance claim to which we dutifully paid the appropriate premiums

EI premiums are less than 2% of paid salary. It nowhere near adds up to $1,600/month for several months.




neither does the $400/yr house insurance premium cover the cost of your new 500k house when it burns down...that's how insurance works...or in any case EI seems to be working just fine...there are huge surpluses each year
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Anonymous on September 14, 2014, 06:22:19 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"






EI pays around 2/3 rds. of your regular wages up to a maximum of about $550 a week (i know i'm off a bit on that number??) in any case i get around $1600/mo. in the winter and the dragon gets about $1400.......we don't really have to depend on the money so for us it is just fun money...i use mine to bankroll my winter poker playing......she spend hers in the slot machines (plus a lot more)..... so we do our bit to help the govt. waste as much as it can....this is a great country, with a well run, smooth functioning, progressive govt. bureaucracy.....cheers

I love ya handsome, but this rubs me the wrong fucking way. Do you think it's fair that you and I pay the same EI premiums? I never even collected that pittance after I gave birth ffs!!




not my problem you don't want to use an existing insurance program....that's what it is there for...if not you...then who ????

Alright, but I would still like to see a REAL insurance program in it's place.
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Obvious Li on September 15, 2014, 08:08:49 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
I love ya handsome, but this rubs me the wrong fucking way. Do you think it's fair that you and I pay the same EI premiums? I never even collected that pittance after I gave birth ffs!!




not my problem you don't want to use an existing insurance program....that's what it is there for...if not you...then who ????

Alright, but I would still like to see a REAL insurance program in it's place.




agreed wit you......however, as long as the govt. is involved it will be a completely fucked up program....ran, badly, inefficiently and they will steal money from it....true dat
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Anonymous on September 15, 2014, 11:38:37 AM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"




not my problem you don't want to use an existing insurance program....that's what it is there for...if not you...then who ????

Alright, but I would still like to see a REAL insurance program in it's place.




agreed wit you......however, as long as the govt. is involved it will be a completely fucked up program....ran, badly, inefficiently and they will steal money from it....true dat

True, if a company were to steal money like that, the CEO would be locked up and rightfully so.
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Anonymous on September 15, 2014, 07:54:12 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"we are receiving payouts from an insurance claim to which we dutifully paid the appropriate premiums

EI premiums are less than 2% of paid salary. It nowhere near adds up to $1,600/month for several months.




neither does the $400/yr house insurance premium cover the cost of your new 500k house when it burns down...that's how insurance works...or in any case EI seems to be working just fine...there are huge surpluses each year

I was talking with an ironworker who gets laid off regularly. I don't understand how someone can afford to go from making  $10, 000 per month to about $1600 on EI. A person would have to save a lot.
Title: Re: Union wages benefit Alberta
Post by: Anonymous on September 15, 2014, 10:08:57 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Romero"
EI premiums are less than 2% of paid salary. It nowhere near adds up to $1,600/month for several months.




neither does the $400/yr house insurance premium cover the cost of your new 500k house when it burns down...that's how insurance works...or in any case EI seems to be working just fine...there are huge surpluses each year

I was talking with an ironworker who gets laid off regularly. I don't understand how someone can afford to go from making  $10, 000 per month to about $1600 on EI. A person would have to save a lot.

People can and will adjust their spending to their incomes.