...and she wasn't very pleased with the direction of your country.
She told me homelessness everywhere, the middle class is dead in America, money aint worth nothin', and she fears a return of Trump will lead to Civil War.
She doesn't like Trump at all.
But wasn't terribly optimistic about Biden either.
But it's like Garraty said in another forum - which is can't really trust the MSM saying the economy is up, they appear to lie about its true state and the general health of American society.
Now...since I don't live in the US of A, those aren't my opinions or POV.I jes try ta keep an open mind and listen to different viewpoints from either side.
I'm sure when the American tourists come up this summer to Canada I'll hear an earful from either side too. I got along with them both I suspect - because I don't take sides, but just listen to what they have to say. Should be intersting as the election season heats up down south - which I suspect will be a deadly affair just like 2020.
Quote from: JOE on February 14, 2024, 10:16:07 PMShe told me homelessness everywhere...
Yup. Hard to afford an apartment when 10,000 people a day are pouring in over the border.
Quote from: JOE on February 14, 2024, 10:16:07 PM...the middle class is dead in America...
Not yet but it will be soon if we don't get rid of Biden.
Quote from: JOE on February 14, 2024, 10:16:07 PM...money aint worth nothin...
Ain't worth much but 16 bucks will still get you a Big Mac combo.
Quote from: JOE on February 14, 2024, 10:16:07 PM...and she fears a return of Trump will lead to Civil War.
Oh yeah most people here are stupid as dirt. Well I guess I shouldn't say that, dirt can grow things.
I'm not from here actually, I'm an L.A. boy (but I wouldn't go anywhere near the place). Moved here when I got priced out of Cali. Good thing I bought my house 24 years ago or I'd be priced out of here too.
Quote from: JOE on February 14, 2024, 10:16:07 PM...and she wasn't very pleased with the direction of your country.
She told me homelessness everywhere, the middle class is dead in America, money aint worth nothin', and she fears a return of Trump will lead to Civil War.
She doesn't like Trump at all.
But wasn't terribly optimistic about Biden either.
But it's like Garraty said in another forum - which is can't really trust the MSM saying the economy is up, they appear to lie about its true state and the general health of American society.
Now...since I don't live in the US of A, those aren't my opinions or POV.I jes try ta keep an open mind and listen to different viewpoints from either side.
I'm sure when the American tourists come up this summer to Canada I'll hear an earful from either side too. I got along with them both I suspect - because I don't take sides, but just listen to what they have to say. Should be intersting as the election season heats up down south - which I suspect will be a deadly affair just like 2020.
She's a stupid cunt, just like YUO, josephine!
Quote from: Lokmar on February 15, 2024, 10:05:16 AMShe's a stupid cunt, just like YUO, josephine!
Not my POV, Lokmar!
I'm just repeating what she said.
I don't know what the true state of your country is these days, Bud!
Yer the ones on the ground who can provide eyewitness accounts as it happens....Lokmar!
I often wonder what is REALLY happening in America these days.
Not the spoon fed version from the MSM.
There must be a reason why Biden is way behind Trump in Michigan these days.
A lotta people in America must be hurtin' if they're gonna vote fer Trump even tho many say they hate the guy.
Canada too....Trudeau behind his Conservative challenger by 20 points?
Quote from: JOE on February 15, 2024, 03:49:09 PMNot my POV, Lokmar!
I'm just repeating what she said.
I don't know what the true state of your country is these days, Bud!
Yer the ones on the ground who can provide eyewitness accounts as it happens....Lokmar!
I often wonder what is REALLY happening in America these days.
Not the spoon fed version from the MSM.
There must be a reason why Biden is way behind Trump in Michigan these days.
A lotta people in America must be hurtin' if they're gonna vote fer Trump even tho many say they hate the guy.
Canada too....Trudeau behind his Conservative challenger by 20 points?
What? Thats EXACTLY the same shit YOU'VE been saying about Trump, liar! :tool:
Quote from: Lokmar on February 15, 2024, 06:01:53 PMWhat? Thats EXACTLY the same shit YOU'VE been saying about Trump, liar! :tool:
What'd I say...Lokmar!?
Actually I remarked in the Shoutbox that the Democrats made a lotta mistakes which may lead to their undoing.
Ie their refusal to back the Keystone pipeline and cancel the project.
Given that inflationary pressures the USA had experienced and how it hurt the working class I thought it was a poor decsions...Lokmar.
But even the more moderate Democrats remarked on the shortsightedness of those policies.
Hillary Clinton, who ya'll seem ta hate, also supported that water project in Maine citing the benefits and reduced energy costs. But the Progressive Wing of the Democratic party had that and the pipeline cancelled.
They were selfish, they got their way and now they'll probably pay the price.
The Democrats failed to listen to their traditionally working class blue collar base.
Quote from: JOE on February 15, 2024, 11:17:30 PMWhat'd I say...Lokmar!?
Actually I remarked in the Shoutbox that the Democrats made a lotta mistakes which may lead to their undoing.
Ie their refusal to back the Keystone pipeline and cancel the project.
Given that inflationary pressures the USA had experienced and how it hurt the working class I thought it was a poor decsions...Lokmar.
But even the more moderate Democrats remarked on the shortsightedness of those policies.
Hillary Clinton, who ya'll seem ta hate, also supported that water project in Maine citing the benefits and reduced energy costs. But the Progressive Wing of the Democratic party had that and the pipeline cancelled.
They were selfish, they got their way and now they'll probably pay the price.
The Democrats failed to listen to their traditionally working class blue collar base.
You've been saying orange man bad, just like that dumb bitch.
Quote from: Lokmar on February 16, 2024, 12:51:51 AMYou've been saying orange man bad, just like that dumb bitch.
He doesn't believe anything he says. He seeks a reaction from you. Apparently, that is trolling.
Quote from: DKG on February 16, 2024, 07:04:49 AMHe doesn't believe anything he says. He seeks a reaction from you. Apparently, that is trolling.
I do enjoy telling him he's a fukin idiot tho!
Quote from: Lokmar on February 16, 2024, 12:51:51 AMYou've been saying orange man bad, just like that dumb bitch.
I don't like your St. Trump much, Lokmar.
But if you do, that's your biz.
Same time, I've pointed out the flaws of the Democrats' strategy and have been unsparing towards them.
I'm not a rah rah Biden type either.
If the Democrats threw him under the bus, it'd actually boost their fortunes.
I think Trump lost the 2020 election fair and square, but if the Dems run Biden again and lose, I believe that outcome will be fair and square as well.
And if Biden loses, will you still think the electoral process in your country is unfair? Or will you jeer at the other side like a sore winner?
Like I said, I have no stake in either party so I can afford to make criticisms of both.
If you don't like my POV, too bad.
And my impression of the Republican party is it's controlled by the Rabid Right.
However, the Dems not much better as they seem to be controlled by the Loony Left, Bud. Personally if I were an American, I wouldn't support nor vote for either.
I'd be an Independent instead.
Like I said, I'm not a cheerleader for either cause.
Quote from: JOE on February 16, 2024, 09:09:52 PMI don't like your St. Trump much, Lokmar.
But if you do, that's your biz.
Same time, I've pointed out the flaws of the Democrats' strategy and have been unsparing towards them.
I'm not a rah rah Biden type either.
If the Democrats threw him under the bus, it'd actually boost their fortunes.
I think Trump lost the 2020 election fair and square, but if the Dems run Biden again and lose, I believe that outcome will be fair and square as well.
And if Biden loses, will you still think the electoral process in your country is unfair? Or will you jeer at the other side like a sore winner?
Like I said, I have no stake in either party so I can afford to make criticisms of both.
If you don't like my POV, too bad.
And my impression of the Republican party is it's controlled by the Rabid Right.
However, the Dems not much better as they seem to be controlled by the Loony Left, Bud. Personally if I were an American, I wouldn't support nor vote for either.
I'd be an Independent instead.
Like I said, I'm not a cheerleader for either cause.
Don't you worry your pretty head Sweetie. Whether Biden or Trump gets a second term, we will still have each other. :soinlove:
Quote from: JOE on February 16, 2024, 09:09:52 PMI think Trump lost the 2020 election fair and square, but if the Dems run Biden again and lose, I believe that outcome will be fair and square as well.
As usual, you're wrong.
Speaking of, you didnt buy silver when I told you and it went up $1 today. Dipshit. Told you so!
Quote from: Lokmar on February 17, 2024, 01:19:45 AMAs usual, you're wrong.
Speaking of, you didnt buy silver when I told you and it went up $1 today. Dipshit. Told you so!
But if Trump actually wins the 2024 election, will you be satisfed that the 2020 election results were fair?
Quote from: Lokmar on February 16, 2024, 09:49:03 AMI do enjoy telling him he's a fukin idiot tho!
He likes negative reactions.
Quote from: JOE on February 17, 2024, 05:44:29 AMBut if Trump actually wins the 2024 election, will you be satisfed that the 2020 election results were fair?
WUT? That makes no fucking sense, josephine!!! How in thee fuk does the results of the 2024 election erase all the documented election fraud of 2020 AND 2022?
Thanks for keeping it stupid, stupid!
Quote from: DKG on February 16, 2024, 07:04:49 AMHe doesn't believe anything he says. He seeks a reaction from you. Apparently, that is trolling.
I think Trump legitimately lost in 2020, DKG.
2020 Trump consistently trailed Biden in the polls.
HOWEVER....this time is different.
as you pointed out in one of your posts, this time Trump is actually ahead in the polls and Biden is trouble.
If that doesn't send a message to the Democrats, I don't know what does.
They should give Biden the boot imho
2024 doesn't favor Biden this time round.
Quote from: DKG on February 17, 2024, 09:57:21 AMHe likes negative reactions.
Sometimes Senile
JOEJ likes a negative reaction because he has said something that he does not believe.
It is his way of distancing his true self from his online persona at times when he has presented his real self in his online persona and he has been shown to be a real dumb cunt.
But it does not work.
It only provides temporary relief, because he knows that it was his true self that was attacked and made to feel foolish.
Senile Joe is struggling.
That poor dumb cunt.
Quote from: TheProwler on February 17, 2024, 05:41:13 PMSometimes Senile JOEJ likes a negative reaction because he has said something that he does not believe.
It is his way of distancing his true self from his online persona at times when he has presented his real self in his online persona and he has been shown to be a real dumb cunt.
But it does not work.
It only provides temporary relief, because he knows that it was his true self that was attacked and made to feel foolish.
Senile Joe is struggling.
That poor dumb cunt.
He is a machine in our bedroom.
Quote from: TheProwler on February 17, 2024, 05:41:13 PMSometimes Senile JOEJ likes a negative reaction because he has said something that he does not believe.
It is his way of distancing his true self from his online persona at times when he has presented his real self in his online persona and he has been shown to be a real dumb cunt.
But it does not work.
It only provides temporary relief, because he knows that it was his true self that was attacked and made to feel foolish.
Senile Joe is struggling.
That poor dumb cunt.
Joe doesn't believe anything he posts.
Quote from: DKG on February 18, 2024, 10:19:03 AMJoe doesn't believe anything he posts.
FYI DKG, I wrote a reponse over at BF about your favorite American President, George W Bush:
https://bastardfactory.net/threads/presidential-rankings.14739/#post-890071
I hope you enjoy it, DKG.
Quote from: JOE on February 19, 2024, 12:31:40 AMFYI DKG, I wrote a reponse over at BF about your favorite American President, George W Bush:
https://bastardfactory.net/threads/presidential-rankings.14739/#post-890071
I hope you enjoy it, DKG.
What is a "
reponse", you dumb cunt?
Quote from: JOE on February 19, 2024, 12:31:40 AMFYI DKG, I wrote a reponse over at BF about your favorite American President, George W Bush:
https://bastardfactory.net/threads/presidential-rankings.14739/#post-890071
I hope you enjoy it, DKG.
Let BF know he's still a sniveling lil bitch for me, josephine!
Quote from: Lokmar on February 19, 2024, 09:54:09 AMLet BF know he's still a sniveling lil bitch for me, josephine!
That is probably why Joe likes that forum. The panel abuse too.
Quote from: Lokmar on February 19, 2024, 09:54:09 AMLet BF know he's still a sniveling lil bitch for me, josephine!
Hey Lokmar 3I bought more gold coins today!
All told a full ounce of gold.
I'm gettin' a bit smarter about it.
Followed yer advice.
'Stead of buyin' too much collector, I buy da Gold mostly for its metal content now.
I've discovered there are deals ta be had where the coin actually sells for less than their silver or gold content, eh?
Those are the ones ta go for. Cuz if yer payin less for the coin than it's actually worth, it's a 'steal' eh Lokmar!?
Quote from: JOE on February 20, 2024, 01:42:27 AMHey Lokmar 3I bought more gold coins today!
All told a full ounce of gold.
I'm gettin' a bit smarter about it.
Followed yer advice.
'Stead of buyin' too much collector, I buy da Gold mostly for its metal content now.
I've discovered there are deals ta be had where the coin actually sells for less than their silver or gold content, eh?
Those are the ones ta go for. Cuz if yer payin less for the coin than it's actually worth, it's a 'steal' eh Lokmar!?
Only a retard sells a gold coin for less than its gold value. Let me know where I can buy gold coins for less than their gold value so I can mortgage my house and buy them all!
Quote from: Lokmar on February 20, 2024, 10:27:49 AMOnly a retard sells a gold coin for less than its gold value. Let me know where I can buy gold coins for less than their gold value so I can mortgage my house and buy them all!
They're around....Lokmar!
I bought these gold pens from an estate sale for really cheap too.
...Like $10 US each?
2 of them I saw on eBay are worth $200 US ea.
You just have ta dig 'n look.
The deals are out there.
I find the best deals are had when they have valuable metals or elements in 'em. gold, platinum, silver....palladium(?).
I also bought a gold ring for less than its face value too.
Had it tested for gold content, eh?
However, I also missed out some good deals for British sovereigns which sold well below their melt value. And that's high grade and even collector gold too.
These deals come up, ya jes have ta find 'em, eh?
Quote from: JOE on February 20, 2024, 01:26:54 PMThey're around....Lokmar!
I bought these gold pens from an estate sale for really cheap too.
...Like $10 US each?
2 of them I saw on eBay are worth $200 US ea.
You just have ta dig 'n look.
The deals are out there.
I find the best deals are had when they have valuable metals or elements in 'em. gold, platinum, silver....palladium(?).
I also bought a gold ring for less than its face value too.
Had it tested for gold content, eh?
link?
Quote from: Lokmar on February 20, 2024, 01:28:40 PMlink?
Here's one:
https://stacksbowers.com/
https://archive.stacksbowers.com/
That's a big coin dealer in yer country. Stacks and Bowers. Been around for a long time.
They often send me unsold/leftover listings of items that didn't sell in their auctions.
Unlike their auctions, I also think their aftersales don't have any buyer's premiums on them either. you could ask them.
So if you get them below asking you don't pay extra other than shipping and sales taxes. I imagine some states are tax free like Oregon and Montana.
I once tried to buy a deal I saw on their leftover listings, but I got there too late as someone else pounced on it and snapped it up. And I think that was well below the list price too.
If you get on their mailing list they'll email that kinda stuff to you.
Heritage Auctions another.
ha.com
Sometimes they have after the auctions sales too.
I know they don't charge any premiums on the after auction items.
Stacks and Bowers frequently have these precious metals or coins by weight auctions.
Quote from: JOE on February 20, 2024, 01:34:31 PMHere's one:
https://stacksbowers.com/
https://archive.stacksbowers.com/
That's a big coin dealer in yer country. Stacks and Bowers. Been around for a long time.
They often send me unsold/leftover listings of items that didn't sell in their auctions.
Unlike their auctions, I also think their aftersales don't have any buyer's premiums on them either. you could ask them.
So if you get them below asking you don't pay extra other than shipping and sales taxes. I imagine some states are tax free like Oregon and Montana.
I once tried to buy a deal I saw on their leftover listings, but I got there too late as someone else pounced on it and snapped it up. And I think that was well below the list price too.
If you get on their mailing list they'll email that kinda stuff to you.
Heritage Auctions another.
ha.com
Sometimes they have after the auctions sales too.
I know they don't charge any premiums on the after auction items.
Stacks and Bowers frequently have these precious metals or coins by weight auctions.
No, josephine. Show me a link to where a gold coin sold for UNDER the value of the gold.
Quote from: Lokmar on February 20, 2024, 01:47:43 PMNo, josephine. Show me a link to where a gold coin sold for UNDER the value of the gold.
I'll give ya a hint at least.
It's the foreign, non-Canadian, non-British, non-American GOLD coins where the deals are most likely to be had and you have the best chance of getting a deal ....Lokmar!
Stuff that says 'Bahamas', 'Cayman Islands' 'Cyprus' or 'Iran' on them. In other words, the less popular countries that nobody often bother with.
But I'm not sure if gold coins from Iran are allowed inta the USA.
I know it's highly unlikely you'll get deals like that on USA/American coins which are usu very expensive and they generally go for over asking and unlikely to go below face value or par.
Generally USA coins are the best selling and are in the highest demand.
Quote from: JOE on February 20, 2024, 01:59:55 PMI'll give ya a hint at least.
It's the foreign, non-Canadian, non-British, non-American GOLD coins where the deals are most likely to be had and you have the best chance of getting a deal ....Lokmar!
Stuff that says 'Bahamas', 'Cayman Islands' 'Cyprus' or 'Iran' on them. In other words, the less popular countries that nobody often bother with.
But I'm not sure if gold coins from Iran are allowed inta the USA.
I know it's highly unlikely you'll get deals like that on USA/American coins which are usu very expensive and they generally go for over asking and unlikely to go below face value or par.
Generally USA coins are the best selling and are in the highest demand.
So, as I expected, you cannot provide a link to a gold coin that sold for less than the gold value. PWN3D!
Quote from: Lokmar on February 20, 2024, 02:03:46 PMSo, as I expected, you cannot provide a link to a gold coin that sold for less than the gold value. PWN3D!
Well, here's one that went close to or possibly a bit below par:
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/226001804794?itmmeta=01HQ26C7YJEB7W6WZG1SRE89SS&hash=item349ec1ddfa:g:LU0AAOSwpmhlvHBw&itmprp=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwBIu6Vgw5674GzRxtpiXVhQrEbnI6jqXverSeZLN0Nf3JYN%2B8%2F9mIXuKeGqaQQmpFvrkp47KlWs9pHfRVFnjkZD%2B%2BEAY3wcEmEKpMKkj6y17K7zEwS9WHPmkSlIQ9qpCL5Im6PwkUGLIQ6%2B4iXa1AckRGegQI6U3TWMYDxnteU7Cm0wa8YVz064hU8DjlpdIrRFlZeROj5Gtgs%2BOXDVXYr8n2%2FNJpF97Xzo7onUjn7h8FohvpydbG6qLkg2sxjXxPA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR7D_sMa4Yw&autorefresh=true
..the same one I bought.
I was tracking it to see what it'd go for.
I think after shipping and taxes I paid about the same or bit below that.
a WORD of CAUTION though:
Be careful where you are buying from and that these things aren't FAKES.
You always take a risk when you buy online too.
Senile
JOEJ is such a dumb cunt.
He posted the same pictures here: https://thebluecashew.net/index.php/topic,16897.msg531829.html#msg531829
That is the thread where he said he bought the coins.
Obviously if Liar Joe has
actually bought the coins, he would have posted a picture of a coin that he
actually bought. Not a picture of a coin that he was "
tracking".
Do you know how
pathetic it is to lie about such boring, lame shit as a gold coin worth about $1000 Senile Joe?
Man, you really are a dumb cunt.
Quote from: JOE on February 20, 2024, 02:46:50 PMWell, here's one that went close to or possibly a bit below par:
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/226001804794?itmmeta=01HQ26C7YJEB7W6WZG1SRE89SS&hash=item349ec1ddfa:g:LU0AAOSwpmhlvHBw&itmprp=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwBIu6Vgw5674GzRxtpiXVhQrEbnI6jqXverSeZLN0Nf3JYN%2B8%2F9mIXuKeGqaQQmpFvrkp47KlWs9pHfRVFnjkZD%2B%2BEAY3wcEmEKpMKkj6y17K7zEwS9WHPmkSlIQ9qpCL5Im6PwkUGLIQ6%2B4iXa1AckRGegQI6U3TWMYDxnteU7Cm0wa8YVz064hU8DjlpdIrRFlZeROj5Gtgs%2BOXDVXYr8n2%2FNJpF97Xzo7onUjn7h8FohvpydbG6qLkg2sxjXxPA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR7D_sMa4Yw&autorefresh=true
..the same one I bought.
I was tracking it to see what it'd go for.
I think after shipping and taxes I paid about the same or bit below that.
a WORD of CAUTION though:
Be careful where you are buying from and that these things aren't FAKES.
You always take a risk when you buy online too.
Good job, josephine! You found one that sold for $10 under todays spot price!
Quote from: Lokmar on February 20, 2024, 04:02:56 PMGood job, josephine! You found one that sold for $10 under todays spot price!
There's others too...Lokmar!
And I missed some good deals too, Bud!
Sometimes it was like $100 below the spot price on 1/4 ounce gold coins, eh? And it was quality high grade stuff like British sovereigns from a reliable source/dealer, eh?
The deals - they're out there, Lokmar!
anyways, I'm a gonna be well-stocked when the SHTF .... Lokmar!
I was gonna get 20 ounces of gold, 100 ounces of silver, 10 ounces of Platinum, a few ounces of Palladium an several pounds of copper, eh.
That oughta be sufficient ta survive a financial meltdown, Bud!
Quote from: Lokmar on February 20, 2024, 04:02:56 PMGood job, josephine! You found one that sold for $10 under todays spot price!
And then there is the $75 shipping charge.....
Senile Joe is such a dumb cunt.
Quote from: JOE on February 20, 2024, 04:51:48 PMI was gonna ge
What is stopping you?
Everything you mentioned is only around $50,000.
Why are you such a dumb cunt, Senile Joe?
Our financial system is rather fragile dumb Prowler.
While I realize that precious metals aint the end all be all, I wouldn't put all my money into electronic mediums either.
Much of the money you saved up in yer retirement fund is illusory, Prowler. I'm not saying all of it is but it's not completely sound either.
Some people tell me ta put it all the bank
While I think that it's good advice to save, I don't think all of it should go there.
Quote from: JOE on February 20, 2024, 05:31:36 PMOur financial system is rather fragile dumb Prowler.
While I realize that precious metals aint the end all be all, I wouldn't put all my money into electronic mediums either.
Much of the money you saved up in yer retirement fund is illusory, Prowler. I'm not saying all of it is but it's not completely sound either.
Some people tell me ta put it all the bank
While I think that it's good advice to save, I don't think all of it should go there.
You are such a simpleton.
Quote from: TheProwler on February 20, 2024, 05:17:18 PMAnd then there is the $75 shipping charge.....
Senile Joe is such a dumb cunt.
And you realize that gold always costs more than its spot price, dum Prowler?
So if the Spot says $2750 cad per ounce, the dealer puts a surcharge of 65-100 exta.
So the real cost is often $2850 or so
The avg consumer never gets gold at spot
Quote from: JOE on February 20, 2024, 04:49:33 PMThere's others too...Lokmar!
And I missed some good deals too, Bud!
Sometimes it was like $100 below the spot price on 1/4 ounce gold coins, eh? And it was quality high grade stuff like British sovereigns from a reliable source/dealer, eh?
The deals - they're out there, Lokmar!
LMFAO! "I spent $1000 so I could make $11!!!" :crampe: :crampe: :crampe: WTF is wrong with you, dude?
Quote from: JOE on February 20, 2024, 06:59:30 PMThe avg consumer never gets gold at spot
Not from a clearing house for bullion. They have to keep the lights on. Buying and selling gold is about having a safety net, josephine. You dont invest to make shit tons of money although at some point in the next 10 years, silver will probably hit $50/oz again. Of course it might hit $11/oz before that!
Quote from: JOE on February 20, 2024, 06:57:43 PMAnd you realize that gold always costs more than its spot price, dum Prowler?
So if the Spot says $2750 cad per ounce, the dealer puts a surcharge of 65-100 exta.
So the real cost is often $2850 or so
Yea, but all the clearing houses constantly have sales at low over spot prices.
Senile
JOEJ is such a dumb cunt.
Quote from: TheProwler on February 20, 2024, 10:09:12 PMSenile JOEJ is such a dumb cunt.
He finally lost his cherry. It was to a frickin guy, but old Joe cannot be too picky.
Quote from: Lokmar on February 20, 2024, 08:19:13 PMLMFAO! "I spent $1000 so I could make $11!!!" :crampe: :crampe: :crampe: WTF is wrong with you, dude?
Gold is a hedge. So is silver.
Safe havens in the event of economic crisis.
I'll hold it for a while to see what happens.
Just go long on it.
Same time, It isn't the only thing I'll buy or invest in.
If it goes up, great, but if it doesn't, just sell it back to the market at what I paid for it.
Kinda like getting a refund.
Quote from: JOE on February 20, 2024, 11:22:18 PMGold is a hedge. So is silver.
Safe havens in the event of economic crisis.
I'll hold it for a while to see what happens.
Just go long on it.
Same time, It isn't the only thing I'll buy or invest in.
If it goes up, great, but if it doesn't, just sell it back to the market at what I paid for it.
Kinda like getting a refund.
I watched some shrub bring in a bunch of collector shit on a youtube channel today. He got scrap. Someone paid a retarded premium when those coins were new.
I'm not saying THAT gold cuck coin at THAT money wasnt a good deal, it was. In general tho, those collector coins are a terrible investment. I'd rather have a gold eagle or maple. Sure, they cost a bit more, but they hang on to their premiums as well. In a SHTF situation, collector coins wont be accepted for barter with as much confidence as the big 3:
American Silver Eagles
Cucknadian Maples
Chuck Britanias
One thing I've noticed about our Canadian dollar.
It's essentially tied to the price of oil.
And if oil happens to go down, so does the Canadian dollar.
However, if there is a medium of exchange tied either to the US dollar, the Euro or Swiss franc which holds its value which maintains or increases purchasing power for the consumer.
They can buy more or at least as much if the currency becomes devalued.
I wouldn't doubt that the Canadian dollar could see a steep devaluation in the future. In the past, it has gone down to as low as .60 to .63 cents US. Another country which is similarly affected is Australia. New Zealand as well. actually they get hit even harder than Canada.
And that's precisely where something like gold and silver come in. They preserve the purchasing value of the currency.
Nations which have experienced steep currency devaluations and hyper inflation include Argentina and Brazil. Holding a bit of gold and silver could have gone a long way for many of their citizens.
Quote from: Lokmar on February 20, 2024, 11:28:44 PMI watched some shrub bring in a bunch of collector shit on a youtube channel today. He got scrap. Someone paid a retarded premium when those coins were new.
I'm not saying THAT gold cuck coin at THAT money wasnt a good deal, it was. In general tho, those collector coins are a terrible investment. I'd rather have a gold eagle or maple. Sure, they cost a bit more, but they hang on to their premiums as well. In a SHTF situation, collector coins wont be accepted for barter with as much confidence as the big 3:
American Silver Eagles
Cucknadian Maples
Chuck Britanias
Well, that's why I try to buy the coins close to their melt or spot value. So they'll always be worth something.
I believe in the US, if you buy gold or silver bullion in most states it isn't taxed.
is that correct?
It is in Canada.
so you can buy the most good looking and expensive gold or silver coin, and as long as it has 99.99% purity, it isn't taxed.
but if it falls below that purity, then it gets taxed.
Gold, silver and platinum are exempt.
But palladium is not.
Quote from: JOE on February 20, 2024, 11:35:51 PMWell, that's why I try to buy the coins close to their melt or spot value. So they'll always be worth something.
I believe in the US, if you buy gold or silver bullion in most states it isn't taxed.
is that correct?
It is in Canada.
so you can buy the most good looking and expensive gold or silver coin, and as long as it has 99.99% purity, it isn't taxed.
but if it falls below that purity, then it gets taxed.
Gold, silver and platinum are exempt.
But palladium is not.
I think a few states tax bullion no matter the purity. Fuck those states tho, the people just drive to the next state and buy. Libtard democARTs are ignorant AF!
Illinois doesnt tax, ironically enough and we have a dealer here that directly buys Silver Eagles from the US Mint.
Quote from: Lokmar on February 20, 2024, 11:41:01 PMI think a few states tax bullion no matter the purity. Fuck those states tho, the people just drive to the next state and buy. Libtard democARTs are ignorant AF!
Illinois doesnt tax, ironically enough and we have a dealer here that directly buys Silver Eagles from the US Mint.
Here's how gold/silver bullion are taxed in the US
https://modernsurvivalblog.com/money/states-that-do-and-dont-tax-the-sale-of-gold-silver-bullion/
The US let's the states decide.
But in Canada it's a federal jurisdiction and they don't tax bullion. Even it's high grade proof or collector type. Just as long as it's 99.99% pure.
Quote from: JOE on February 20, 2024, 11:52:20 PMHere's how gold/silver bullion are taxed in the US
https://modernsurvivalblog.com/money/states-that-do-and-dont-tax-the-sale-of-gold-silver-bullion/
The US let's the states decide.
But in Canada it's a federal jurisdiction and they don't tax bullion. Even it's high grade proof or collector type. Just as long as it's 99.99% pure.
Like I said, people that live in states where there's tax buy out of state. Its no different than when I do a bunch of shopping in Missouri for lower prices and less tax. Also, when I drive to Wisconsin or Missouri, I get just enough gas to get me out of Illinois. Its not like I save much, but every little bit fucks Illinois!
At least I can buy bullion in town tax free.
Quote from: Lokmar on February 20, 2024, 11:57:58 PMLike I said, people that live in states where there's tax buy out of state. Its no different than when I do a bunch of shopping in Missouri for lower prices and less tax. Also, when I drive to Wisconsin or Missouri, I get just enough gas to get me out of Illinois. Its not like I save much, but every little bit fucks Illinois!
At least I can buy bullion in town tax free.
I think I'll go down to Oregon and buy stuff from there in the future. Or get it shipped there and pick it up.
They have no sales tax.
Quote from: JOE on February 21, 2024, 12:00:11 AMI think I'll go down to Oregon and buy stuff from there in the future. Or get it shipped there and pick it up.
They have no sales tax.
I'm surprised. Those liberal shitheads seem too dumb not to tax. I'd go to Montana instead just on principal!
Quote from: Lokmar on February 21, 2024, 12:09:33 AMI'm surprised. Those liberal shitheads seem too dumb not to tax. I'd go to Montana instead just on principal!
It actually matters where you get items you bought shipped to.
If you get it shipped to Washington state, it's like nearly 10% sales tax.
But if you get it shipped to Oregon across the state border, 0%.
so if the item is like $4000, the buyer could save $400.
Quote from: JOE on February 21, 2024, 12:16:21 AMIf you get it shipped to Washington state, it's like nearly 10% sales tax.
But if you get it shipped to Oregon across the state border, 0%.
so if the item is like $4000, the buyer could save $400.
I really appreciate that Senile Joe did the math there.
Calculating 10% can be a little challenging.
^
That was sarcasm, Senile Joe.
You dumb cunt.
Quote from: TheProwler on February 21, 2024, 03:18:35 AMI really appreciate that Senile Joe did the math there.
Calculating 10% can be a little challenging.
^
That was sarcasm, Senile Joe.
You dumb cunt.
I can see that your developmental disability is acting up again Prowler.
Please...do take your meds.
Quote from: JOE on February 21, 2024, 04:12:52 AMI can see that your developmental disability is acting up again Prowler.
Please...do take your meds.
Did you need to use a calculator?